"Got English?" - How to Aim Using SIDESPIN, With Game-Situation Examples
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Dr. Dave demonstrates how to adjust your aim for squirt, swerve, and throw when using sidespin. He also demonstrates numerous interesting game-situation examples where the aiming techniques are applied. Back-hand english (BHE) and front-hand english (FHE) techniques are featured.
The aiming systems used in this video are covered in great detail in the full-length instructional video: System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS). It is available to stream or download, or in physical DVD form, here:
drdavebilliards.com/saws/
Contents:
- Intro [0:00]
- CB Deflection [0:11]
- Outside and Inside Spin [1:24]
- Back-Hand English (BHE) [2:15]
- Squirt and Swerve [3:42]
- Front-Hand English (FHE) [4:57]
- BHE/FHE Calibration Drill [5:53]
- Throw [7:34]
---- gearing outside English (GOE) [7:45]
---- cut-induced throw (CIT) [8:14]
---- spin-induced throw (SIT) [8:35]
---- aim compensation [8:55]
- Game Situation Examples [9:26]
- Wrap Up [11:45]
---- summary [12:22]
---- "Got English?" T-shirt [13:22]
Supporting Resources:
- System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS): drdavebilliards.com/saws/
- "Got English?" T-Shirt: drdavebilliards.com/products/...
- Many other T-shirt, mug, and cap designs from Dr. Dave: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
- How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) instructional series: drdavebilliards.com/aiming/
- When and why to use sidespin (english): see HAPS-I, VEPS-II, VEPP-II, and VENT-III (recommended in this order) here: drdavebilliards.com/
- How to Aim When Using Sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- Back-Hand and Front-Hand English (BHE and FHE): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- BHE/FHE Calibration Drill document: billiards.colostate.edu/resou...
- Gearing Outside English: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- Sidespin Example Shot Diagrams: billiards.colostate.edu/resou...
- Squirt, Swerve, and Throw Effects: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/s...
- Throw Tutorial: billiards.colostate.edu/tutor...
- Math/Physics Derivations of Equations:
--- TP A.31 The physics of squirt: billiards.colostate.edu/techn...
---- TP A.4 - Post-impact cue ball trajectory for any cut angle, speed, and spin: billiards.colostate.edu/techn...
---- TP A.14 - The effects of cut angle, speed, and spin on object ball throw: billiards.colostate.edu/techn...
NOTE CONCERNING FOLLOW-THROUGH:
See the note in the pinned comment.
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*Table of Contents:*
- Intro [0:00]
- CB Deflection [0:11]
- Outside and Inside Spin [1:24]
- Back-Hand English (BHE) [2:15]
- Squirt and Swerve [3:42]
- Front-Hand English (FHE) [4:57]
- BHE/FHE Calibration Drill [5:53]
- Throw [7:34]
---- gearing outside English (GOE) [7:45]
---- cut-induced throw (CIT) [8:14]
---- spin-induced throw (SIT) [8:35]
---- aim compensation [8:55]
- Game Situation Examples [9:26]
- Wrap Up [11:45]
---- summary [12:22]
---- "Got English?" T-shirt [13:22]
*Supporting Resources:*
- System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS): drdavebilliards.com/saws/
- "Got English?" T-Shirt: drdavebilliards.com/T-shirt/Got_English_T-shirt.html
- Many other T-shirt, mug, and cap designs from Dr. Dave: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
- How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) instructional series: drdavebilliards.com/aiming/
- When and why to use sidespin: see HAPS-I, VEPS-II, VEPP-II, and VENT-III (recommended in this order) here: drdavebilliards.com/
- How to Aim When Using Sidespin: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation
- Back-Hand and Front-Hand English (BHE and FHE): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/bhe-fhe/
- BHE/FHE Calibration Drill document: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/BHE-FHE_calibration.pdf
- Gearing Outside English: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
- Sidespin Example Shot Diagrams: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/BU_English_Examples.pdf
- Squirt, Swerve, and Throw Effects: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/effects/#list
- Throw Tutorial: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw/
*NOTE CONCERNING FOLLOW-THROUGH:*
Part of the first section dealing with "CB Deflection" came from my "How to Select a Pool Cue, Cue Ball Deflection, Carbon Fiber, Revo vs. Cuetec" video here:
ua-cam.com/video/AwytGsNl2vc/v-deo.html
Check out the "NOTE CONCERNING FOLLOW-THROUGH" in the video description or pinned comment of that video concerning why the follow through looks crooked. For convenience, here it is:
During the first set of tests, hitting the CB straight up table with parallel english, my follow-through was not very straight. However, I did hit the CB accurately, with the desired tip position and in the desired direction. The crooked follow-through happened after the CB was gone, so the shots still had the desired outcome.
I did some additional filming to help me diagnose what was causing the non-straight follow through. Playing the new video back in slow motion showed the cause. When the tip hits the right side of the CB, a sideways force pushes the shaft to the right against the thumb of my open bridge. Then the cue bounces to the left off the thumb causing the follow through to veer left, but the CB is long gone by the time this happens.
Regardless, when I did the original filming, I did a large number of shots with each test and with each cue, and only included the shots that seemed to be the most-representative "average" shots for each, so I am confident the relative comparison is accurate.
Also, for a newer video showing a collection of similar cue tests with a much more careful procedure and stroke, see my "CUE TESTING for Cue Ball Deflection, And PREDATOR REVO Carbon Fiber Shaft SIZE EFFECTS" video:
ua-cam.com/video/Al2gyPgGlPg/v-deo.html
Hi Dr Dave, can you help with this shot Efren make. I've been trying to figure it out for quite a while?
ua-cam.com/video/pLAIkA2gIRs/v-deo.html
Thanks for all you do!
Would you help to explain more for combination of FHE and BHE ?
@@kiemvyduc4079 It is covered in detail in the videos and via the links here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/bhe-fhe/
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for your sharing from Viet Nam with love
@@kiemvyduc4079 You're welcome from the USA with love. :)
The amount of squirt depends on the properties of the shaft
Willy Horn Exactly. And the BHE pivot correction depends on bridge length. And the FHE pivot depends on grip hand position. That’s why each player needs to do the BHE/FHE calibration drill on their own to find their personal percentages for a given shaft.
I get what youre sayin willy haha
giggidy
LMAO!!!
Well that one went right over the Doc's head. Lol
Before I saw this video I was the guy who would try to use some sidespin, miss horribly, and stand there with eyebrows furrowed, mouth open, and palm upturned towards the ceiling wondering what happened.
Now I am the guy who tries to use some sidespin, misses by a little bit, and at least knows what physically happened and went wrong with the shot. Thank you for this video explanation and for giving me something to work on!
I hope the info helps. And if you want to learn more, see the videos, articles, and other resources under the various topics here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/
Enjoy!
Oh good grief. I had no idea it was this complicated. Quality presentation
Maybe a better alternative is "ignorant bliss" ... but I prefer winning. :)
Thanks for the comment.
I agree. There is way more to this than I thought. But it explains why I missed a lot using side spin.
That Throw, Throws me off. Im confused :)
Dave. This is the best Aiming video for english on the web. After one hour after watching, I mastered it and was running the table!... and then I woke up. But seriously, FANTASTIC STUFF!
Funny. Thank you. If you want a more-advanced coverage, see SAWS:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
DrDaveBilliards ;
Dr. Dave
As a lover of the game and lifelong learner, your videos are tremendous not only in information but in your generosity in sharing them. Thank you for your time and kindness. 👍
XgrimmyX You’re welcome ... and thank you for the kind and supportive remarks. I appreciate it.
Man u do teach lesson to us for free ..I think u are a good person
Thank you. It helps to know that people enjoy and benefit from my stuff.
Instructions unclear I started speaking German
Poptartcat The pastry slayer No, you’re doing it right.
I really like your empirical approach to the game, Dr. Dave. Not only do your videos clearly illustrate the physics of the game; they also debunk old pool myths, especially with your super slow motion videos. Great work and thank you.
Lawrence D'Amato Thank you ... and you’re welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
I used to be pretty good in my younger days..Picked it up again recently..and after a 1 year and now 65 realize I had no clue how technical this game is..I knew basic diamond play and other fundamentals..draw roll throw...but it's like I have become a student of the game now and Dr.Dave is the ZenMaster. We were great instinct/feel players back then...and now to have a guide or base to work from for every shot is exciting and amazing. I do so many things now because of what DrDave has taught me/us..I actually have a "pre-shot" routine now..never did before. I watch Dr.Dave's videos over and over but some things stick upon first lesson...just needed someone to describe technical side and show the physics of it and DrDave does it best....Kudos Sir and Thank you.
Thank you for the positive feedback. I'm glad you like my stuff. Good luck with your game!
Insanely great detail on English usage in Pool. Appreciate your time, attention and benevolence in your work. Your videos make me an even bigger fan and student of the game.
Thank you!
I’m glad you like my stuff. Thanks for the positive feedback.
Dr. Dave, yours are by far the best instructional videos of UA-cam, and that's a lot. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, you deserve to be supported.
Thank you for your kind post. I appreciate it.
Dave: Thank you so much for your dedication and advise. I've been struggling with compensation for at least 4 months, today I have applied this system and I've pocket balls I've never done before. P.S. I've bought your book and I recomend it to anyone, from novice to "experts"
I'm glad to hear it. FYI, a lot more help on this topic can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
Enjoy!
great free instructional video.. been a follower of your vids (even the pre-hd times).. keep up the good deeds dr dave
This really is a one-stop shop on everything you needed to know on how to use sidespin. I salute you, Dr Dave!
Thank you. I appreciate your positive review.
Love what you do Dr. Dave. Inspiring attention to detail and care of presenting it clearly. Thanks for the help!
Thank you for the comments. You’re welcome.
so incredibly methodical. a true scientist.
Thank you Dr Dave, for your videos. I own your VEPPS series and you made it very easy to understand. Keep them coming!
dpbuc32 You’re welcome. I’m glad you like my stuff.
Thank you Dr. Dave! I always learn so much from your videos, and I love the thoroughness of your explanations. I have needed this topic demystified for a while - and this video really did that. I'm looking forward to trying to apply these concepts to my game, and I think if I even achieve a mediocre grasp of this that I will be much improved as a player!
I'm glad you like it, and I hope it helps your game. If you want more-detailed coverage, see SAWS:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
I appreciate your posting these videos and information on the game, you rock please keep it up.
tartarus216 You’re welcome ... and thank you!
The best, I'd say even scientifical explanation of the physics of the ball. No hype, pure science! My favourite!
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. FYI, I have more videos and advice dealing with using sidespin effectively here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
Check them out.
This makes much more sense now, I’ve finally got my top, middle and bottom fundamentals down pretty well now I’m just learning side spin and it was very confusing, but this video made me understand much more, thanks dr. Dave.
FYI, a lot more videos and help dealing with sidespin can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
Good luck with your game!
I like the way he summarize this video. Top player doesn't have to do this because they have their instincts. This is rather a quick solution to improve and explanation for us.
Love the videos Dr. Dave, I love to learn all this stuff, it makes my admiration for you and my respect for pool to grow
I'm glad to hear it. Thank you.
Love this. I bought a table a few months ago so I could practice all I wanted and improve my game. Well my aim has gotten better but my leaves were still bad. I just watched this video went to my pool room and practiced with BHE and there was instant improvement. Up until now I have always only used FHE and had to compensate by changing my aim point. A lot of times id use the correct english but still not get the desired affect. But using a combination of BHE and FHE the cue ball is actually going in the area I want it. I can not THANK YOU enough for publishing videos like this. Please keep them up.
I'm glad you like it, and good luck with your game!
This is something that I have noticed in my game a lot and struggle with. I knew my shots were being affected by something but didn't know what it was called or how to counter it. Now I have something to work off of. Those misses always frustrate me the most because I never knew how to fix it or if it was really a thing or if I was just not as accurate as I thought. This video really helps put my mind at ease and hopefully I can get this squirt and swerve and throw down with some dedicated practice. The next time I go to the table will be drill after drill after drill.
I'm glad you liked the video. I hope it helps. Good luck with your game.
As a beginner I have to watch these over and over but they are so Damn great and educational.
FYI, the links in the video description above cover the individual topics in much greater detail, with many more examples.
i have not seen this video before and i thought it was great. i have read your book twice now and i believe it is the best instructional book i have read and i have read at least 6 others.
I'm glad to hear it. Thank you for the positive feedback, and good luck with your game.
You make exceptional videos! Keep up the great work!
Deep Divers Thank you. If you haven’t seen all of my recent “Top 10” videos yet, check them out here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLH9d4KFY28XtrkjqZMKZc3uB4Y5sWCjW6.html
I just ordered the I GOT LUCKY shirt. Thx for all ya do Dr. Dave!!
Thank you and you’re welcome.
Great Information. I like that it consolidated a lot of the information.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks Doc Dave! This one is really helpful for understanding more of the English technique.
You're welcome. You might like this one too - SIDESPIN ... Everything You Need to Know:
ua-cam.com/video/6-vNQwD5WDw/v-deo.html
Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards Cheers Doc
I've been playing pool in leagues for 3 years now and reading/ watching your information since I started. I actually play out of matchups here in Fort Collins. There were a lot of players who offered advice along the way (the majority bad.)You've helped me beat people that have been playing for 30 plus years that stomped me years ago. I'm still not as good as I want to be, but I'm way better than I would have ever been without all of the information you provided! Recommend you to anyone that serious about pool. Look forward to one of your classes in the future!
I'm glad to hear it. Thank you for the success story. The next time you see me at MatchUps, please introduce yourself.
Had to come back and check again. Thank you Dr Dave
This video might require multiple viewings. It contains a lot of info. The resources links in the video description are also help. They contain many more useful videos, illustrations, and articles.
0:50 That was an amazing shot. I didn't think that was possible.
Only possible with spin and on an American pool table, to gonna happen on a Chinese pool table or a snooker table.
23352408akash Why not on Chinese table?
I agree, I was shocked and surprised!
Thanks DrDave! Very helpful...
I’m glad you think so. You’re welcome.
Superb video. Very nice info! Thanks!! I needed this
Thanks! And you're welcome!! FYI, you can find a lot more info dealing with various aspects of sidespin under the topics here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/
Enjoy!
Nice one Dave. keep that great job going !
Thanks. This is fun, so I plan to continue.
Nice explanation, great work.
Thank you. I aim to swerve. :)
Wow. Great info. Thank you for posting
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
This is my final knowledge to really master the game. I am a fairly advance player, but i was still strugling when i have to use spin. I am gonna practice those drills. Thanks a lot Dr. Dave. You the man.
Jean Desir I’m glad to hear it. I hope it helps.
DrDaveBilliards Thanks, it helps alot, but correct if i am wrong. If i apply the calibration with bhe and fhe acording to the shot distance and speed, do i have to change my aiming line? I remember u said in the video to aim thin for outside english and aim thick for inside english. So if use the calibration, can i just aim as if i am not using any english at all with no compensation?
The BHE/FHE automatically compensates for squirt and swerve. In other words, it automatically creates the right amount of thin aim for outside and the thick aim for inside. Now, sometimes you also need to adjust your original line of aim for throw, per the info at the bottom of the page here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw.html
And don’t get discouraged as this system will suck on the very beginning since YOU are trying to break bad habits and change your way of thinking and play. Last night I’ve played one of the top players in my company, we exchanged punches here and there, and I’ve lost a few games when trying to adapt to this new method, but overall I gave him a hard time and we pretty much ended up tied and tired at the end. Another player that i didn’t know was a pool shark before, and made a living off of it, lost two games and left with a broken heart, and I thank my success to content like this and kind people as Dr. Dave.
I’m buying one of his systems every paycheck until I get them all. I don’t plan to play for money as it is not fun anymore but a tournament may be in the far future.
On the beginning There will be lots of miss outs until it becomes natural to the player to compensate without thinking about it, like Dr. Dave said on the video. I’ll use the two ball beside the pocket to train it today as it seems almost impossible to be done when you hear about it but it’s clear on the video that the system will work if you understand it. After all, Dr. Dave is human, right Dr. Dave? Lol
I'm glad you are enjoying and benefiting from my stuff. I hope you continue to do so. You are right, we are all human (me included). :)
Very useful tips!
Thanks. I’m glad you liked it. FYI, more info and many more videos on this topic can be found via the links here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/
Great Job Sir.. I salute you. Thanks Sir..upload more videos so that i can learn more, thanks & godbless! im from the philippines..
I plan to upload more, but I already have hundreds of videos available on my channel. Check them out here:
ua-cam.com/users/DrDaveBilliardsvideos
Very informative Dr.
Thanks. I aim to swerve. :)
Thanks for this video.
regat70 You’re welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting.
outstanding video, thanks
Nicolas Rossi Thank you ... and your welcome. I aim to,swerve. :)
Thanks doc, just what I wanted to know about this shot.
maxxsee I’m glad to hear it.
excellent video
Thanks. For more info and additional videos on this topic, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/
After watching , have no idea how I ever made a short using Power English . most likely I hydroplane the Felt , so it has no drift over my aim . Great advice here :)
I want the shirt. Dude very nice vids, english is the part of my game that needs work so this was a great watch 👍🏻🎱
The shirt is available here:
drdavebilliards.com/T-shirt/Got_English_T-shirt.html
I'm glad you like the shirt and the video.
The only video that explains everything you need
Amazing video ! ❤️👌🏻
Hi dave,
Firstly thanks for all your videos. I wondered if you could do a video on “tracing”. It’s the technique that’s used to apply more side to the cueball on backstroke so that it scrapes the cueball to the side you imparted spin to , to counterbalance the deflection effect. It’s something pros do but there’s never any videos on it.
Cheers
This is also called a "swoop" or "swipe" stroke, and sometimes "back-hand english." I have lots of info and several videos on this topic here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/swoop-swipe/
Check it out.
Thanks for doing these videos
And I love ur shirt
You're welcome ... and thank you!
DR Dave just bougjt the t-shirt cant wait to get it
Dr. Dave thanks for being a bad ass
My pleasure ... and thanks!
It would make for a great video if you could do a POV video on the cueball and where you aim with and without english to make an object ball. I need to get to the next step in my pool game. I can run racks with my own methods but actually seeing your POV on running a rack would be great insight. Thanks and keep up the great work. I look forward to your videos!
I already have some good videos showing how and where to aim to pocket balls without sidespin. See:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/how-to-aim/
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you again, Dr Dave.
Lots to digest in this episode. 👍🏼
At 13:48 I had to laugh.
*Some* opponents might love the pointing out of their errors on your tshirt, but I'm pretty sure many of them would see it differently. 😉
Agreed. I was just kidding with the shirt pointing thing.
There is a lot to digest, but if you want to learn more, much more info is available here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
DDB is a legend
Dr. Dave you rock! Are you not a professional pool player? I can certainly see a career switch opportunity for you!
My focus is on teaching (not playing) professionally. Thank you for the vote of confidence, but I am far from a pro level player.
You show us all these awesome majestic strikes on ball but sometimes you break and need some more in depth plays. If you could make a video on how to play balls after the break that would be great. Your videos are awesome and I watch all the time I just think it would be a great tutorial on how to move across the table after break and I believe you have the best of judgement
This topic is covered in great detail on VEEB-I:
drdavebilliards.com/videos/8-ball/disc-i/
And lots of related videos and advice is available here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/8-ball/
I notice this mathematically with this system I don’t need to buy LD shafts and still plays the same as LD shafts. And also when most people buy a new cue they need around a year to get a good feel and muscle memory change from their old cue to their new cue but with this system I can use any cue as my own cue after playing 2 racks or 30 shots to know how it plays out. Most people don’t share these things but thank you for sharing everyone this aim system. For me it’s shooting as the degree of deflection ( if the degree of deflection is 20 with straight center shot then I put my cue 20 degree of center left or right to make it point straight there’s still deflection technically but using that deflection) to go straight towards where I wanted. Sorry for long comment for those people that already know these stuffs.
True. The SAWS system can be used with any cue and with any bridge length. However, LD shafts do offer some slight advantages, per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/low-squirt/#advantages
Excellent coverage on this topic Dr. Dave. In reviewing the diagram at 12:20 in the video, the upper/right portion shows the "thrown OB direction", "throw angle", and "the impact line of centers", I believe that the dashed line for the "thrown OB direction" is shown on the wrong side of the "impact line of centers" line.
For the cut shot to the left, the mechanical throw would be to the right, due to the balls skidding together momentarily, prior to separating. That's why the "Gearing English" (right English induces a spin-throw to the left), would cancel the mechanical throw.
I enjoy your excellent work. Please let me know if you agree on my observations here. Kind Regards.
If the amount of outside spin is greater than the "gearing" amount, the throw is in the SIT direction. If it is less, the throw is in the CIT direction. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/outside-gearing/
After replay 5 times at last i can understand what are you trying to explain. Nice video. Btw my english so suck. I am sub already 😁
Vahn Dealo This video includes lots of info, and I certainly didn’t expect all viewers to totally absorb everything with a single view. I’m glad you eventually found the video helpful.
Hi Dr. Dave! Thanks for always providing the most reliable online resources for pool! I was looking at the BHE/FHE calibration drill document, but I'm a little confused about the speed definitions. Where exactly would I be hitting from the head-string for each speed? And what do you mean by "1/4," "1/2" and "3/4" stroke?
Here is the info from the page (billiards.colostate.edu/resources/BHE-FHE_calibration.pdf):
Speed definitions (hitting from the head string):
• “slow” - ¼ stroke off 1 rail back to the head string
• “medium” - ½ stroke off 2 rails to the center string
• “fast” - ¾ stroke off 3 rails to the foot string
You should from the head string hitting straight down table and back. The 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 are the stroke lengths (as fraction of full bridge length) I use to create these speeds, but this might be different for others. The important things are the distances traveled by the CB (e.g., "off 1 rail back to the head string").
Hi dave, I am really glad to watch this amazing video about how to aim, I am from Peru and I am trying to figure out the way to translate all the video, in spanish for teach this method in my Pool Academy, You are a great player and very methodical in my opinion, I was wondering if you could help me at least with subtitles or something, To transmit your knowledge to future generations here and in Latino America, Greetings Dr!
If you watch the videos on a computer, you can use the UA-cam “CC” feature to display subtitles.
The subtitles are not correct in spanish for this video Dr
I know they are not perfect, but they are the only subtitles available.
Great lesson,, I think this is the next thing I had to master to keep improving. I like your back hand pivot for English, that would increase consistency.
BHE alone works sometimes, but is not adequate over a wide range of shot distances and speeds. For more info: see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
@@DrDaveBilliards seperating the bhe from the front in to percentage should lead to more accuracy in a systematic way. I think this is the best video for people that have been playing for a year or more to get rid of inconsistent shots.
Agreed. It can also help some more experienced players. I use SAWS often and it is very effective for me.
@@DrDaveBilliards right, I need systems to work on one thing at a time. You are going through in to important info that was just not available when I was playing. This is real brake through stuff if you ask me.
@@DrDaveBilliards there is a lot hear, after you get through stance, eyes alignment, stroke, And basic aiming, you have to master this set of variables. Nice group of information in this video. You really worked out some important things.
@7:18 wow, incredible aim man
Thanks. The System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS) makes this possible:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
In its simplest terms, without getting into BHE and FHE, this what it appears Dr. Dave is demonstrating in this video.
SQUIRT:
Right English causes the cue ball (CB) to squirt a little to the left and vice versa when using left English. So when using left or right English you have to adjust your aim slightly to hit the OB where you want to hit it taking into consideration the squirt. If using right English, you have to aim to hit the OB slightly more to the right because the CB is going to squirt slightly to the left. If using left English, to account for a little squirt to the right, you have to aim a little further to the left of the impact point since the CB is going to squirt to the right a little. How much adjustment depends on many factors and takes practice. It’s important to note that you get less squirt with a hard hit, more squirt with a slow hit.
SWERVE:
This is the effect of the CB staying off line because of Squirt. A slight amount of squirt will come back on line in about 3-5 feet, similar to a massé shot. If the CB and the OB are within a few feet of each other, there is not enough distance for the cue ball to return to the impact line and the squirt will have a greater effect. However, the way most good cues are made today, squirt is minimal, often less than an 1/8” and often has almost no effect on a shot unless of course you are executing a massé shot with extreme english and a raised cue.
ENGLISH INDUCED THROW:
This is the effect of English on the CB throwing the OB a little one way or the other. Right English will throw the OB slightly to the left and left hand English will throw the OB slightly to the right. A slower shot or with more English applied will cause the OB to be thrown off line more. This is called “English induced throw.”
CUT (OR IMPACT) INDUCED THROW:
This is the effect of the CB impacting the OB and, because of friction between the two balls, the CB tends to push the OB in the direction the CB will go after impact. If cutting the OB to the left, the CB goes to the right and pushes the OB slightly offline to the right. Shiny, clean, new balls will produce very little “cut or impact induced throw” since there is almost no adhesive effect between the balls. A little English, about ¼ tip, right English for a left cut and left English for a right cut, reduces the amount of friction between the CB and the OB by causing a sliding, rolling effect, which reduces the amount of “cut or impact induced throw.” Also the English on a cut shot tends to produce a little “English induced throw” which counters the “cut or impact induced throw” and that brings the cue ball back in line. The thinner the cut, the less impact induced throw. It seems that the “cut or impact induced throw” is the greatest at about a 30⁰ to 45⁰ cut. For a very thin cut or for a full on shot, there is no “impact induced throw.”
Decent overview, but some of your details are inaccurate. FYI, complete info for all of the effects (with supporting resources) can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/aiming_compensation.html#English_effects
Hey there Dr Dave, I see you're using a graphite shaft, what's your opinion on them?
Ok thank u
Thank you for this amazing video ! I saved it. I have a side question though : What size is your table?
mocheford You’re welcome. I’m glad you like it. My table is a regulation 9 footer.
Really love your tutorials. But how do you calculate how much spin to get to the position you would like the cueball to go after contact? Any videos for that?
The best way to learn how much spin to use for different types of shots is to first know about all spin effects:
ua-cam.com/video/6-vNQwD5WDw/v-deo.html
and practice drills like the "clock system:"
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/clock-system/
and target drills:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/drill/target/
Like your video and actually applied some of your instructions. Would appreciate any assist on method to how adjust aim line depending on the amount of sidespin. Know if I hit the CB on far left or right it will alter the aim line which causes a miss if not knowing where to hit the OB correctly.
Howard Berger Did you try the BHE/FHE Calibration Drill mentioned and linked in the video? Once you know the percentage of BHE and FHE to use for each shot distance and speed, it works for any amount of spin!
Wow, where were these videos about 13 years ago?! I printed out a huge book I bought online back then showing everything I've seen you talk about so far (This is my 4th video watching you tonight randomly cause I got the billiard bug back in my system) and I just had to basically figure it out myself. If I had one critique, I would say maybe slow it down just a little on the explanations while shooting. Maybe even show the shot again just a little slower (basing this sentence off the other 3 videos I have seen tonight.). I've found myself calling the next shot on some of your stuff, but newcomers might find it a little hard to grasp. Regardless, great videos sir!
bigred1022 Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I’m glad you like my stuff. If you want a more thorough and slower presentation with many more examples, see my full-length instructional videos here:
drdavebilliards.com/
My game has improved so much from these videos. Quick question Dr. Dave: when using BHE, do we adjust our body so that the stick remains under the chin and in the shot line? Or should the back hand just pivot without the body moving even if it puts the cue out of original center chin / vision alignment? Thank you for all your advice and content!
With BHE, it is best to move the whole upper body, head, and cue together so your shooting frame does not change.
Nice!... the Nerdy stuff is important part of pool.. the science explains how it works.(logic and priniples) .. the visual intuitive explains how it's done..(feel,experience) 👍🇳🇿
Thanks. Well stated.
Great video. Can't believe the CB is squirting that much with a Revo. That's about the same as what I get with a Non-laminated ferrule-less shaft from my cuemaker. Interesting.
The Revo is definitely an LD shaft. It might look like a lot of squirt in the video because of the fast speed and slick cloth, both of which limit the amount of swerve, but it is much smaller than what most cues/shafts would produce. Do a similar test with your cue if you want a better comparison.
I was still surprised because I am doing only half ball squirt using power shot with Meucci Black Dot
Are you doing the shots at the same distance as in my video, and with maximum sidespin like I was? Obviously, shot distance and spin amount makes a big difference. Cloth conditions and cue elevation are also factors for the combined effects of squirt and swerve. If you really want to compare two cues, you need to do the tests one after another with the same shooter on the same table shooting the same shot at the same distance, speed, and sidespin amount.
The most laughable products ever introduced to the billiard world is the " low deflection " shaft and kamui chalk. In my no disrespect to n e one intended and unwanted opinion.
Uncle Wreckum Like you, I don’t see much value in “premium” chalks like Kamui, per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/chalk.html#comparison
However, I do see value in LD shafts, per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue.html#advantages
😩 learning English is giving me headaches.
I don't know if I ever gonna master it.
But thanks for the lessons Dr. Dave...
All the way from Mozambique 🇲🇿
Mastering sidespin is not easy. Here's a good place to start if you want to learn more:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
Enjoy!
Well, Dr. Dave, you’ve answered the one question I had and always afraid to ask! How in the hell they aim with spin? I’ve always thought one should move the cue parallel to the actual position as tricking the front only sounded unnatural. Got yourself a new subscriber!
Thank you for the videos and the simple mathematical way you use to teach us!
Peace
FYI, more videos and resources on this topic can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/compensation/
Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards wow, thank you so much for your help! I’m not by far an expert or pro, but videos you’ve posted and also some other UA-cam channels like yours have made a huge impact on my playing. I’ve been though living hell during this pandemic, money wise, but now my company opened up their pool tables for us again and after all of these months, just by watching you guys, I’ve been more respected than ever! Thank you so much to all of you, specially those like yourself who personally answer our comments!
If you have any tools of expertise on identifying McDermott cues, it would be very important as we all try to improve and buy better cues but not much info to protect us against dishonest sellers on the used market. I look at some and can’t see them apart from very expensive ones but I’m sure there’s a way to spot a mixed breed by a trained eye but it may be an idea for a video since I haven’t found anyone else doing it. Thank you so very much for replying to my comment! Good luck with your channel and I’ll keep appreciating your videos while dreaming to be able to someday be part of a torment! Happy holidays!
@@roadshowautosports You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Concerning identifying cues, I'm not much of an expert in that regard. I just play with the equipment I've had for a long time, and I don't change often, and I don't collect. The player is much more important than the cue.
Happy Birthday to Dr. Dave!!!! Lol
Hi Dr. Dave, first of all, congratulations on your videos, they are extremely interesting and very informative
I had a curiosity: as regards the throw I see no correspondence between the explanation of the phenomenon and the examples of the game, especially the first example of the game, where it seems to me that the object ball should be hit thinner and not fuller, because if gets hit fuller moves away from the pocket
I wanted to ask if the throw should be considered for every single situation or if there is a general rule
thank you :)
FYI, a good summary of the things you need to know about throw (and when and how to adjust your aim) are summarized at the bottom of the page here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/throw.html
Is it possible to just use FHE? Or do you have to use a combination of both? This is a great video btw. I've had trouble finding good videos explaining how to aim with side spin.
If you have a really low-deflection shaft and if you are short, pure FHE will work on long/slow shots. Otherwise, you need to use a combination. The only way to know is to do the BHE-FHE Calibration Drill mentioned and linked in the video.
Not to preach to the choir, but when you freeze-frame your first two English shots in the video, you can see your cue swing to the right and left respectively. There would be less throw if you focused more on keeping the cue moving straight after contact with the cue ball. I like to use a closed bridge in these situations for this reason.
I'm pretty sure my stroke was fairly straight on these shots. I think the video camera perspective effects can sometimes be misleading because the view is at an angle. Even if my follow through did veer off a little, I don't think this had an effect of the CB direction (because the CB was already off the tip).
Dr Dave my bridge length is 4 inches on a 3ft shot. I have the 4 inches marked on the shaft, now all I have to do is slide my bridge hand back to where I like it and your system will work? Thank you Dr.Dave
The system works for any bridge length, assuming that's the bridge length you used during the calibration procedure. You can also change the bridge length (with a straight slide) after the BHE/FHE pivots.
Love ur videos. Are u using a 12.9 or 12.4 revo? Have u found the 12.9 to have less deflection like I did? I feel like he 12.9 plays much better but I’d love to know what u think.
I have a 12.4. I've never tried a 12.9. My previous shaft was an 11.75 Z-2, so even the 12.4 seemed fat at first, so I don't think I would like the 12.9.
Dr.Dave predator revo what is the big difference between the 12.4 and the 12.9 I’m really leaning toward buying one. I play a 13mm now, but I’m leaning toward the 12.4 I figure it will be my last stick, is there a big difference in the shaft? I mean the 12.4 isn’t like shooting with a toothpick is it? Is it easy to get used to? You know between you and poolology videos my game has really taken off. Just the other day on a 9 ft table I made 7 out of 10 half ball spot shots and I cannot forget sharivari videos you guys have make all the difference in the world! Thank you steve
If you use an open bridge, the change is not a big deal. If you use a closed bridge, it might take some adjustment.
dr Dave, the FHE looks tricky as you have to move the bridge hand. i always liked BHE as the bridge hand can stay stable. is there a way to just do all compensations with BHE techniques alone?
... yes, but only if you vary the bridge length based on shot distance and speed (and cue elevation). This is covered on SAWS:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/
thanks man your videos are great. have you done any on cue selection, or shaft diameter effects.
Zahid Qadri I have some cue selecting info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue.html#selecting
Zahid Qadri Concerning tip/shaft size, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/threads/cue_tip.html#size
many thanks.
Thank you dr. Dave! Your videos are great and I bought your book too which I study now. What is the name of the white circle markers on your table and where can I find them? Best wishes from Germany!
Patrick B. “self-adhesive hole-reinforcement labels” are available at office supply stores and online.
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you!!
perfect
Thanks!
Hi Dr. Dave, I'm trying to understanding something about BHE and FHE technique. In your video at 2:47 you demonstrate BHE. As your back hand moves and your cue pivots, your eyes, vision center, chin all pivot just as much as the cue, staying in alignment. But when you demonstrated FHE at 5:18 your eyes and chin seemed to stay locked onto the target line, and the cue pivots relative to your chin. Is this an intentional difference? Or perhaps a slight error in this demonstration? Thank you.
With the front-hand pivot, it is difficult to keep the back hand still if you move your head and body, but various vision alternatives are possible with both the BHE and FHE pivots. Aiming and alignment is done before the pivots. What you do with your body and vision during the pivots should be whatever works best for you (creating the purest pivots) as an individual.
Hi Dr Dave, generally can we say that for short distant shot, we use BHE ( staton bridge) & long/ middle distant shot, we use FHE ( station hand) ?
BHE for short and fast. FHE for long and slow. That will get you in the "ball park," but results will vary with bridge length and cue deflection.
I highly appreciate your videos...just my own preference not to use back-hand-english as my grip hand touch my hip when using outside english...it is easy for me to compensate and shift cue parallel, especially for drag shots where deflection and throw compensate automatically.
The BHE is more effective if you shift your hips and knees with the cue so the cue-body relationship remains fixed. That's how I do it in the video.
Concerning "deflection and throw compensating automatically," this unfortunately is not the case for shots of all speeds, distances, and cut angles.
DrDave, what is your Fargo? or if you don't have one do you have an estimate? Just curious how well you do in competition... Love your vids!
I don’t have a FargoRating, but I would estimate about 650 per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/glossary/
I WANT THE SHIRT!!
You can get it here:
drdavebilliards.com/T-shirt/Got_English_T-shirt.html
Dr. Dave, how does side spin on the cue ball affect the cue ball path after it hits the target ball? Since the target ball gets deflected (SIT), the cue ball should deflect as well? Can you do a video on that please!
This is covered in detail in the first two videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/
Enjoy!
Hello DrDave (follower/subscriber and will stream a few videos). At 6:20 in the video, you explain you're using 60% BHE, 40% FHE. I know 0% is dead-center, so in the cue ball english diagram when you say 60%, the black dot is closer to center-line while the grey dot is away and when you say 40%, the black dot is away from the center-line while the grey dot is closer. Which colored dot represents which percentage? It's seems backwards to me. Thanks.
The 1st black dot is the BHE (60% out) and the 2nd is FHE (40% more for a total of 100%). FYI, everything is covered in great detail in the full-length SAWS video:
drdavebilliards.com/videos/saws/
Enjoy!
Dr. Dave once I have my extra short bridge for my 3 or 4 ft shot, can I just slide my bridge hand back to where I like it and get the same results.
Yes.
Dr. Dave for Mosconi cup 2018!
Lol. Thanks for the laugh.