How good is this REAL MASTERSWORD? Legend of Zelda

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  • @shadiversity
    @shadiversity  Рік тому +544

    Just so you know we've already done a video testing some of the constructed improvised weapons in The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, but it was not recommended to most of our viewers and many don't even know we made it. It's a great video and I'm sure you will enjoy it: ua-cam.com/video/SDcccleEA4M/v-deo.html&t

    • @BigShoulderGuy
      @BigShoulderGuy Рік тому +16

      2:56 I actually have seen Link use the master sword with two hands. In a cutscene from Breath of the Wild, we can see him swinging it around to practice swordplay and during that, he's using two hands.

    • @Zoddlander
      @Zoddlander Рік тому +2

      It looked cool! but have you guys disassembled the hilt to find what made the sound? Because of the pommel screw, I wonder if its hollow and if there is a lengthy screw thru the length of the hilt that might be making the sound!?

    • @Sigma0283
      @Sigma0283 Рік тому +3

      My guess is when the three Goddesses turned the Goddess Sword into the Master Sword, they had put a special enchantment on it to make it extremely light which could explain why Link can use it one handed.

    • @insectostrich4407
      @insectostrich4407 Рік тому +1

      I can’t wait till they announce a Legend of Zelda movie. That’s one of Nintendo’s more grounded properties and is proper fantasy. Hopefully, a lot of care will be put into the worldbuilding and story, so people like you can analyse and enjoy it Shad.
      Great video by the way. You are one of the reasons why I got into fantasy and have inspired me greatly.

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 Рік тому +5

      I think the Twilight Princess Master Sword had a longer handle allowing for two handed grips when needed.

  • @dschnaible
    @dschnaible Рік тому +3869

    Were you guys full health while testing the sword? That makes a difference with the Master Sword.

    • @reienna6410
      @reienna6410 Рік тому +293

      shad is never at full health, if you have been following his videoes

    • @CL-os5cz
      @CL-os5cz Рік тому +164

      It means he couldn't shoot a beam from it LOL

    • @dschnaible
      @dschnaible Рік тому +135

      @@CL-os5cz exactly. I need to see the real world performance of the beam.

    • @dschnaible
      @dschnaible Рік тому +20

      @@reienna6410 too true.

    • @Irish_Enderman
      @Irish_Enderman Рік тому +17

      The only full health effect is sword beams

  • @WideMouth
    @WideMouth Рік тому +1652

    Actually, the Master Sword is a one and a half hand sword. Link generally holds it with one hand, but he occasionally wields it with two for certain moves (especially in Twilight Princess).

    • @Y_u_dum
      @Y_u_dum Рік тому +220

      And the training scene in botw if you want a more modern scene. (My god im getting old, i remember when twilight first came out, it's been out since november 2006...)

    • @redmage777
      @redmage777 Рік тому +28

      16 years...

    • @ledfolf7193
      @ledfolf7193 Рік тому +143

      In addition to twilight princess, you can see link train using two hands with the master sword in botw, specifically in one of the memories. It shows as link and Zelda are stuck in the rain under a tree, where link decides to train with his sword until the rain ends, utilizing both two handed and one handed sword strikes, while listening to zelda talk.

    • @SirVilder
      @SirVilder Рік тому +18

      This! I'm glad someone else commented this already.

    • @Perroden
      @Perroden Рік тому +14

      ​@@Y_u_dumdude that's not old. I remember seeing ocarina of time commercials

  • @MaxTheGamingMan
    @MaxTheGamingMan Рік тому +746

    Actually Shad, Link's version on Zelda Twilight Princess uses his sword with two hands from time to time when you execute these "hidden skills" passed on by the Hero's Shade who is presumably an earlier encarnation of Link himself.

    • @jlan7844
      @jlan7844 Рік тому +57

      Well the shade does outright call Link "My Son" when you complete all of his trials, so I think its a little closer than just an incarnation. Though the "Hyrule Historia" Lists the Hero's Shade as specifically being the Hero of Time, who wished to pass on his techniques as proof of his heroism (time travel was involved in his game, so him being a hero was time paradoxed away at the end).

    • @fancyincubus
      @fancyincubus Рік тому

      Oof yourself spam bot

    • @jacthing1
      @jacthing1 Рік тому +2

      I thought that was the case. I'm pretty sure he definitely does it in the hidden draw (or whatever it was called when you have your sword sheathed and drawn and strike the enemy all at once.)

    • @zero.Identity
      @zero.Identity Рік тому +15

      "presumably" ? its officially confirmed to be link from OoT

    • @mikejunt
      @mikejunt Рік тому +5

      @@jlan7844 Actually, Twilight Princess is in the victory/child timeline, where the Hero of Time beat Ganon, then Zelda sent him back in time to live out his childhood, and be the Link of Majora's Mask.
      Wind Waker is the game in the absent timeline where the Hero of Time didn't return to live out his childhood after winning, and therefore wasn't present when Ganon returned again.
      And Link to the Past -> Zelda 1/2 are the timeline where Link lost at the end of Ocarina of Time (the "downfall timeline")

  • @Mysticuffs
    @Mysticuffs Рік тому +1152

    I know it's not a very realistic sword, but you can't deny that it's damn cool

    • @jurtheorc8117
      @jurtheorc8117 Рік тому +9

      I've got the same opinion about Chaoseater from Darksiders. Simple in shape, and yet with a lot of decoration.
      The Ashen Vindicator from Soulstice too. Even simpler in shape than Chaoseater (being a Berserk reference), but it also has a long handle on one side of the blade instead of an edge, to make it better wieldable upside-down. This is important because Ashen Vindicators/Enforcers double as both weapons and warhammers.
      The Heavenly Sword from the same-titled game... to an extent. It's got an awkward spiky bit at the back upper part of the handle, but it also seems to have a pretty elegant mechanism of splitting the blade in two.
      I would include the Soul Reaver among here, but out of all these blades, it's the closest to being realistic (to an extent).

    • @theguileraven7014
      @theguileraven7014 Рік тому

      I dunno, it kinda looks like it’s made of plastic, in the games….

    • @Gaia_Gaistar
      @Gaia_Gaistar Рік тому +7

      @@theguileraven7014 Dude, I genuinely love Kamen Rider weapons.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi Рік тому +12

      I think it's one of those things that looked perfectly sensible in the stylized art where it originated, but then it kept going. Sometimes they change it up a little, in Twilight Princess it was upgraded in length which helped with that being the most realistic-ish one.

    • @Naxatthedoor
      @Naxatthedoor Рік тому +13

      @@KairuHakubi hell yeah, I love the twilight princess master sword, it really felt fantasy like whilst still keeping a realistic aesthetic, the blade is pretty much claymore length yet link wields it like he’s swinging around a dagger lol

  • @maximvilleneuve5544
    @maximvilleneuve5544 Рік тому +283

    In Breath of the Wild, during the memory cutscenes, we can see Link train using both hands on the Master Sword. This would imply that when not using a shield, the Master Sword can be used as a two handed sword. It is also implied that the royal knight sword arts in Hyrule has two handed combat. Plus, Link in the Hyrule universe is supposed to be able to be a beast when it comes to strenght while still being noticably smaller than other Hyrulians.

    • @Neceroe
      @Neceroe Рік тому +23

      Yea, im pretty sure the master sword is two handed (or versitile) link is just a badass

    • @professormutant3252
      @professormutant3252 Рік тому +16

      @@Neceroe yeah I reckon it's somewhat a bit of a bastard sword, able to be used both 1h and h2

    • @requiemforameme1
      @requiemforameme1 Рік тому +9

      @@professormutant3252 Yup, I think through various 1st-party sources it’s been confirmed it’s a 1.5-handed sword.
      Also remembering, Hylians aren’t the tallest race.. Their bastard swords are probably 1h-sized.

    • @professormutant3252
      @professormutant3252 Рік тому +2

      @@requiemforameme1 yeah true. gotta consider the racial sizes when thinking fantasy swords

    • @dngames1001
      @dngames1001 Рік тому +3

      I would add the fact that from Twilight Princess ahead, the Master Sword started being more like a 2 handed sword, in Ocarina of Time the M-Sword looks shorter and seems more comfortable for being a one handed sword, also on Smash Bros Brawl, one thing that got me thinking is the M-Sword, it looks so much shorter there than its "canon" counterpart from Twilight Princess.

  • @MrTailson1
    @MrTailson1 Рік тому +90

    The sword not cutting horizontally actually still matches up with the video games. While attacking without using an inputted direction from the stick, Link usually attacks with diagonal strikes and a vertical strike to start a combo, usually ending with a horizontal slice that would knock back enemies and allow him to jump-strike or Finishing Blow on them while they were knocked onto the ground. It also matches up with the great spin attack that knocks everything away from him.

  • @SunnyDoe
    @SunnyDoe Рік тому +254

    2:55 There IS actually a cinematic in BOTW where Link is practicing 2 hand with the Master sword, unfortunately they never really do it in gameplay…

    • @gabrielclamens3151
      @gabrielclamens3151 Рік тому +9

      there's a taunt in smash too no ?

    • @50kenel
      @50kenel Рік тому +7

      Maybe that's the reason why Link doesn't have a shield in any cinematic. In real life he uses it two handed style but the one handed is just iconic for him.

    • @ExoticIsaac5839
      @ExoticIsaac5839 Рік тому +5

      His Sneak Strike has him place both of his hands on the weapon too

    • @uhohmemebiggestboy212
      @uhohmemebiggestboy212 Рік тому

      True yeah, in a bunch of cinematics he holds it two handed as someone else mentioned maybe that's what he does normally without a shield and bow but when we're playing him he only does one handed

    • @quintonconoly
      @quintonconoly Рік тому

      Yep under the tree in the rain

  • @ZFProductions
    @ZFProductions Рік тому +179

    Link actually did use two hands while wielding the master sword for at least one of the hidden skills in Twilight Princess. I can’t remember if he did with the mortal draw, but I remember him using both hands on the jump strike.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Рік тому +11

      beat me to it

    • @jacthing1
      @jacthing1 Рік тому +1

      I swear he did it with the I feel like he did with the mortal draw but couldn't be wrong

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Рік тому +5

      Fatal Blow was definitely with both hands, but it's hard to say whether Mortal Draw used both hands. Mortal Draw looks like his shield hand is only there for spiritual support, similar to how he executes jump attacks in every game.

    • @OneStudioMan
      @OneStudioMan Рік тому

      It was also during his fight with Ganondorf in Twilight Princess that he used both hands to overpower Ganon and you had to spam A really quickly.

  • @johannschmidt3389
    @johannschmidt3389 Рік тому +509

    Keep in mind the context of the master sword, it’s not for elegant dueling, this is made for killing monsters.

    • @MaximillionPegasusJ.Crawford
      @MaximillionPegasusJ.Crawford Рік тому +157

      Its a sacred tool to banish the dark. Killing monsters is just a nice extra effect.

    • @linkstorm6
      @linkstorm6 Рік тому +75

      and grass

    • @spyrofrost9158
      @spyrofrost9158 Рік тому +64

      @@linkstorm6 Why touch grass when you can cut it with your sword!

    • @irrelevantfish1978
      @irrelevantfish1978 Рік тому +43

      If anything, the Master Sword's design makes even less sense for killing monsters than it does for dueling. Both the crossguard and second edge are virtually useless unless you're facing armed and intelligent opponents, and it lacks the reach to reliably reach the vitals of some of Zelda's larger monsters and avoid being crushed by the falling corpse.

    • @linkstorm6
      @linkstorm6 Рік тому +15

      @@irrelevantfish1978 so the enemies in BoTW/ToTK are more fitting for the sword to slice up, got it

  • @drsch
    @drsch Рік тому +133

    Apparently, on their website, they've clarified that they only sell the sword in one color and that's with the brass. However, the brass tarnishes giving it the blued color. It is not intentionally blued. They recommend customers simply polish it back to a bright brass.
    I kind of feel like they should polish it themselves before sending it out as shipping tarnished products that look different than the advertised picture is a bit shady, but to their credit, they're at least honest about shipping tarnished swords.

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 Рік тому +16

      Which is funny since plating the cross guard and pommel in oxidized cobalt would give it a better blue colour than tarnished brass would.

    • @spiceyicey
      @spiceyicey Рік тому +2

      i think it's about giving the option of having a blue lore sword, or a brass pretty sword

    • @CaitiffFTW
      @CaitiffFTW Рік тому +7

      Head Canon for Zelda lore. The blue in the game's Master Sword is just a bluing of brass, from natural petina.

    • @pantalonesdemuerto7960
      @pantalonesdemuerto7960 Рік тому +6

      @@CaitiffFTW "You left it in a pedestal in the woods for HOW LONG? Dude, that's never coming off."

  • @userJanus3003
    @userJanus3003 Рік тому +38

    11:26 "You have broken what could not be broken! Now, hope is broken."
    At Spaceworld 2000, Nintendo showed a Gamecube tech demo with a brief video of Link and Ganon dueling each other. At the end, Link throws his shield aside and two-hands the Master Sword, but all we see him do with it is bind with Ganon's blade. And it's been years since I last played, but I seem to remember some of Link's combos in Wind Waker ending with him two-handing the Master Sword.

    • @WideMouth
      @WideMouth Рік тому +5

      Links holds the sword with two hands a lot in Twilight Princess

    • @Kayem237
      @Kayem237 Рік тому +2

      Also the Mortal Draw and Jump Strike skills in Twilight Princess.

  • @SerAvaros
    @SerAvaros Рік тому +87

    Link’s master sword is usually one-handed, but there are few occasions where he has wielded it with two hands. Even in ocarina he does it when you do his downward jumping strike.

  • @grantmathieson650
    @grantmathieson650 Рік тому +32

    You can tell the fun they made making this one.

  • @Trent2Luigi
    @Trent2Luigi Рік тому +139

    If I'm remembering correctly, there's many times Link two hands the Master Sword.
    Zelda2: The down thrust attack.
    *A Space World 2000 Presentation: Ganondorf taunts Link, making his toss aside his shield and two hand the sword for a furious strike.
    Twilight Princess: The Finishing Plow, a move were he leaps into the air, plunging the sword into a downed enemy, with both hands.
    Skyward Sword: once again, The Finishing Plow returns, same as Twilight Princess.
    While these are farm from normal sword techniques, he has two handed it plenty of times, just not while swinging it most times...
    Thank you for listening to my TEDTalk.
    Edit: I'm glad the community was able to form an encyclopedia of all the times Link two hands the Master Sword from this comment.

    • @sinuvasinuva
      @sinuvasinuva Рік тому +6

      I believe that the 4º attack of a combo he also 2h the master sword (Twilight Princess)

    • @roven_5530
      @roven_5530 Рік тому +20

      Breath of the Wild: Link two hands in the Memory "Shelter from the Storm"

    • @aidragon4851
      @aidragon4851 Рік тому +10

      One of the Zelda Mangas Link uses the master sword two hands, and in reference, art for OOT Link is fully using the Master sword as a two-handed weapon.

    • @SouthpawHare
      @SouthpawHare Рік тому +13

      Every Forward-Smash in Smash Bros. His shield instantly gets put away on his back in like 1 frame when he does it.

    • @ocircles738
      @ocircles738 Рік тому +5

      Down-air in SSBM is same as Zelda 2. That attack is also used in other games but I can't remember off the top of my head. Also wow, that little comment by Shad really got the nerds out in force.

  • @Cosmic_Espeon
    @Cosmic_Espeon Рік тому +22

    Came here because I was vaguely interested but decided to sub because you guys seem really cool, not only that, as a fan of swords, I just love seeing people talk about them, especially something as Iconic as the Master Sword. Of course for one to get the full power from the Master Sword one needs to add a few "Haah's" and "Hiyah's" to your swings but that's besides the point, looking forward to more content. May the Goddess Hylia bless your future endeavors, now back to saving Hyrule from the Calamity.

  • @UndeadGhostGirl
    @UndeadGhostGirl Рік тому +56

    I actually really like the idea that the Master Sword is much heavier and chunkier than one would expect. It lends credence to the whole "only destined heroes can wield it" thing. I also love the idea of an elven blade that's specifically meant for fast, heavy, powerful blows, chopping more than cutting. Like the elves got tired of getting bullied by dwarves and orcs and said "FINE. You want a *real* sword? *THIS* is a *REAL* sword!"

  • @j.m.turner1756
    @j.m.turner1756 Рік тому +33

    Wonderful video, Shad! Hope you're doing all right.

  • @austinaxley81
    @austinaxley81 Рік тому +16

    I never thought of the Master Sword as primarily a weapon. Even traditionally in past games there are stronger blades like the big goron's sword in OoT. The Master sword is treated more like a key, a relic that operates as the functional end of a seal against darkness.

  • @usetoothless9473
    @usetoothless9473 Рік тому +14

    As an interesting note towards Link two handing his sword, he does do it on certain attacks. For instance his powerful “Mortal Draw” in Twilight Princess if I recall. It’s an over the shoulder draw/slash holding the hilt with two hands.

  • @Kayem237
    @Kayem237 Рік тому +48

    Link actually does use two hands on it for the Mortal Draw skill and Jump Strike skill in Twilight Princess. The Master Sword has always looked like a longsword to me, even though he's always used it with a shield.

    • @yarion4774
      @yarion4774 Рік тому +8

      And Link has more than enough superhuman strength to wield it one handed so easily. He throws around gorons without any magical enhancements.

    • @Kayem237
      @Kayem237 Рік тому +1

      @@yarion4774 Very true. Though he didn't do that in OoT, he still showed a lot of strength before getting the power glove.

    • @Andrea-wr5wd
      @Andrea-wr5wd Рік тому

      it seems like it's an "hand and a half" sword,a kind of sword that can be wielded with either 1 or 2 hands depending on preference/situation

    • @Kayem237
      @Kayem237 Рік тому +1

      @@Andrea-wr5wd I think it changes game by game. In Twilight Princess, it is certainly long enough to be a standard size longsword rather than a hand-and-a-half sword

  • @Neshoba1337
    @Neshoba1337 Рік тому +11

    As others have pointed out Link from Twilight Princess does at times use the Master Sword with two hands. He not only uses it in a couple of hidden skills but he ALSO uses it when performing certain swords strikes at the end of a normal attack chain. I think its the both the neutral attack chain finisher(overhead strike) and the forward attack chain finisher(forward thrust) in which he uses two hands. Its easier to see the animation when the shield is unequipped, however it remains the same with the shield equipped aswell.

  • @RoaADDW
    @RoaADDW Рік тому +13

    Learned something new today, didn't know that the geometry of the blade mattered as much as it does.
    The more you know.

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet Рік тому +168

    The kind of restraint required not to call it "The Master Bastard" is legendary.

    • @razztastic
      @razztastic Рік тому +3

      It's really not, but you can have that I guess

    • @moody7063
      @moody7063 Рік тому +1

      @@razztastic rly fun at parties huh

    • @nehpets216
      @nehpets216 Рік тому +3

      Fi's creator wasn't married so...

    • @ChachoGSX
      @ChachoGSX Рік тому +1

      ​@@moody7063No invites to any parties

  • @zillionstar98
    @zillionstar98 Рік тому +34

    Interesting how the more functional blade has similar design choices to the redesigns you did a while back, Shad. It seems we have physical evidence that knowing your stuff about swords really pays off to making fantasy swords that actually work and still look cool!

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Рік тому +8

      Only problem is that he removed the sword’s power source.
      The golden gem. It’s just a tough sword if it doesn’t sparkle with the power to repel evil.

    • @Chris____.
      @Chris____. Рік тому

      ​@@firenze6478 Just wear the gem as an amulet.
      Also, gameplay wise, Link banishes enemies + ganon without the Master Sword multiple times, so the Gem is not really consistently the only "power to repel evil."
      If anything, the gem just repairs it.

    • @morepenguins6247
      @morepenguins6247 Рік тому

      @@Chris____.Then the sword is just a sword, and now you’d have an amulet which you can’t both fight and seal the evil with.

  • @firenze6478
    @firenze6478 Рік тому +39

    This time don’t remove the power source
    (The golden gem.)
    You have to remember it is a magic holy sword

    • @y0ax
      @y0ax Рік тому +1

      Actually its still there, infact it was probably still even yellow when they made the sword it only looks blue because the metal tarnishes

    • @firenze6478
      @firenze6478 Рік тому +4

      @@y0ax I’m referring to his original redesign

    • @y0ax
      @y0ax Рік тому +2

      Ooh kk, that makes sense

  • @dan_loup
    @dan_loup Рік тому +87

    The original Zelda OOT master sword was made to be visible on a 320x240 game picture, and one with some sort of early anti aliasing, and another two screen blurring filters and the CRT blur on top of it. it kinda needed to be thick.

    • @crozraven
      @crozraven Рік тому +4

      I disagree, the whole blade could be made to be wider, but the blade profile should still be much better, less thicker, & have distal taper, making it far more comfortable to wield as a proper sword. For example, The Albion Principe used a wide type XVIIIc blade & it's basically a cutting terminator.

    • @dan_loup
      @dan_loup Рік тому +22

      If you make the profile thinner, the blade will basically disappear depending on the angle

    • @foldionepapyrus3441
      @foldionepapyrus3441 Рік тому +3

      Not to mention that the low polygon count possible on the N64 with the current state of the art on software rendering forces a rather larger stylised view so there are details at all.
      If they had the current math and software concepts for efficient rendering the hardware is almost certainly capable of a little more detail in the game world, but there is still only so far you can go on the hardware at playable speed.

    • @redmage777
      @redmage777 Рік тому +1

      That and the master sword first appeared in A Link to the Past and needed to fit in a 16×16 pixel square.

    • @dan_loup
      @dan_loup Рік тому +3

      The LTTP one actually is a bit more viable that the artwork has a thinner profile, as the ingame art basically depicts link holding it horizontally when just not a swoop.
      Also on the Zelda OOT era, even the modelling tools were more limited. the invention of real time skinning (the technique where the model is animated per vertices instead of being a bunch of separate objects being rotated and moved around) improved the model quality a lot within that generation.

  • @Dingus_Khaan
    @Dingus_Khaan Рік тому +15

    There are definitely occasions where the sword is used two-handed in the 3D titles, especially in particularly heavy strikes.

  • @RojastheBlackWolf
    @RojastheBlackWolf Рік тому +9

    Shad up in here with the Old Ben Kenobi vibes... I dig it lol

  • @Empty_Moment
    @Empty_Moment Рік тому +7

    Links downward/airborn thrust-move he has in some games, for example in Twilight Princess, as a finisher move, uses two hands. Link also kills/seals Ganondorf/Ganondorf multiple times with two handed strikes. Wind waker being one of them. But generally no, outside commercials and very specific moves, the Master Sword is only drawn from the pedestal with two hands, then used single handed.

  • @tristanwebster8243
    @tristanwebster8243 Рік тому +5

    It's interesting I feel like it makes sense that it would be considerably heavier while not cutting as strong, because pretty much every iteration of Link its freakishly strong, and seems to use the master sword almost like a blunt weapon half the time. The way he batters enemies around and sends them flying lends to the idea of a lack of sharpness in exchange for blunt force capabilities, so this seems like a damn accurate master sword to me.
    Edit: Just got to the woodcutting section, this thing is built like a frickin axe which is awesome and feels super accurate.

  • @IPostSwords
    @IPostSwords Рік тому +2

    Fun Fact for fans of the Master Sword. Brendan Olszowy of FableBlades currently has a custom version available for auction... with an opening reserve price of 8k USD

  • @the_hat_man879
    @the_hat_man879 Рік тому +3

    i always find these videos interesting keep up the good work shad (and the other hosts too)!

  • @frofrozzty
    @frofrozzty Рік тому +3

    Something I wanted from TOTK was variations on the master sword design. Like you could take the master sword to a "master smith" and they'd craft a zweihander or an axe or whatever in that aesthetic.

  • @dwlr007
    @dwlr007 Рік тому +3

    When brass tarnishes it becomes dark almost black. I doubt it's blued, it more likely just needs a polish to restore the color.

  • @justalaborer713
    @justalaborer713 Рік тому +49

    But Link doesn't normally fight humans. Maybe the sword needs more girth so it doesn't break in the flesh of the moblins.

    • @zero.Identity
      @zero.Identity Рік тому +8

      humanoid people though, like ganon. but you could argue that since its supposed to be holy and full of light and energy, that it somehow lightens it up if held by the chosen one / link.

    • @zobblewobble1770
      @zobblewobble1770 Рік тому +7

      The Yiga Clan begs to differ

    • @TornaitSuperBird
      @TornaitSuperBird Рік тому +4

      Nobody's saying this, but I think the reason it's so broad is simply due to design constraints.

    • @zero.Identity
      @zero.Identity Рік тому +1

      @@TornaitSuperBird i have. twice. or three times now in this comment section

    • @Blue-fg8vt
      @Blue-fg8vt Рік тому +1

      ​@@zero.Identity Gannon is big and magic, and link (even when he does not have stuff to help him carry heavy stuff) Carries something most likely heavier then the master sword, the hylian sheild. Theirs just so much metal on that thing

  • @ja-melvinson7994
    @ja-melvinson7994 Рік тому +3

    Link has used the master sword with two hands on a couple of occasions in the latest games. Mostly cutscenes (one in botw when he was training in the rain, and another in Age of Calamity when he goes to kill Ganon, another for whenever he does a finishing blow in both TP and SS.) The sword is typically wielded in one hand, though, yes.

  • @themr_wilson
    @themr_wilson Рік тому +1

    11:12 It will keel
    Tyranth is just fantastic

  • @SovereignSymphony
    @SovereignSymphony Рік тому +4

    I'd love a video of how you'd design your own functional Master Sword, if you haven't made one already.
    Personally, I'd want to somehow include Fi in its design (Master Sword's sword spirit, but also referencing fi as iron, as well as phi, the golden ratio (Dan Winter's phi × planck length × planck time), which also connects to the golden power aka the triforce.
    Thanks for the video!

    • @moody7063
      @moody7063 Рік тому +1

      he did do this a few years ago!

  • @AngryYetiTV
    @AngryYetiTV Рік тому +2

    It was really cool to catch a glimpse of you working on a sword.

  • @danksouls2523
    @danksouls2523 Рік тому +7

    IT JUST LOOKS SO DAMN COOL

  • @Lieutenant_Dude
    @Lieutenant_Dude Рік тому +1

    I personally loved the weapon construction and fusions in TotK. The Blue Lizalfos horn being essentially a katana or military saber blade was awesome. I always tried finding royal broadswords with +10 so I could use the blue horn without being too underpowered. Silver Lynel Saber Horn helps a lot, but are much harder to stockpile.

  • @itsasecrettoeverybody
    @itsasecrettoeverybody Рік тому +10

    But does this one have the light power of the goodness and the ability to seal evil?

  • @Maniacdude87
    @Maniacdude87 Рік тому +2

    The game Twilight Princess has a few examples of two-handed use for the master sword. In some of the Sword Skills taught by the Hero's Shade.

  • @grrman
    @grrman Рік тому +3

    Simple, entertaining, educational.
    A true Shadiversity video through and through

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 Рік тому

      Would like to see him do an analysis on the sword of light from Dragon Quest, even though it’s no where as iconic.

  • @RarePupper
    @RarePupper Рік тому

    Your short worked to get me to watch, good work!

  • @FierceDeity35
    @FierceDeity35 Рік тому +5

    I love me some shad/zelda, especially the master sword.
    Btw, your giant sword looks like the Fierce Deitys double helix sword.

    • @a-listgamer7873
      @a-listgamer7873 Рік тому +1

      The helix sword might be somewhat practical due to the holes in the blade making it lighter.

  • @adrianblanchard416
    @adrianblanchard416 Рік тому

    It honestly made my day to see youre still at it making informative wholesome conteint like this, so glad i subscribed!

  • @spartanhawk7637
    @spartanhawk7637 Рік тому +3

    Link does occasionally two hand the master sword (most prominently while dueling Ganondorf in Twilight Princess), though it's clear his preferred style is sword and board.

  • @johnj.spurgin7037
    @johnj.spurgin7037 Рік тому +2

    I wonder if the wider blade profile is intended to make the bludgeoning, cleaving effect of the sword more potent?

  • @Voitan
    @Voitan Рік тому +3

    I think the rondel disk could have been moved up to merge with the crossguard, and still be thinner and lighter material than that thick crossguard, while still giving it the mirage of the same width of the original crossguard as the disk cups down a bit, but the crossguard's wings should still sweep up from the disc like before. Also the blade definitely needs to be thinner and even longer if possible.

  • @travismelcher1483
    @travismelcher1483 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, great review I've been excited about this one. Did you guys ever pull it apart to see what type of tang it has?

  • @freddiefreeman1438
    @freddiefreeman1438 Рік тому +4

    2:54 "Never seen link two-hand the master sword"
    Just going to put this out here while I can.
    Smash Brothers! Link's Final Smash! His final strike is him wielding it two-handed!
    I want to believe I've also seen him wield it two-handed in the main games but I will have to do some digging for that.

    • @Angelic_Hero
      @Angelic_Hero Рік тому +1

      he two hands with most his jump attacks through the main games not sure if any of the games have a regular attack that is 2hnd or not

    • @freddiefreeman1438
      @freddiefreeman1438 Рік тому

      @@Angelic_Hero 1. Ah yes the jump attack! How could I forget! Thank you!
      2. As for any other? Hm... maybe one of the "Hidden skills" in Twilight Princess? Would 'Ending Blow' count?

    • @Angelic_Hero
      @Angelic_Hero Рік тому

      @Freddiefreeman I have no clue other then the jump attacks since that is the one thing all the 3d games have in common. And I don't remember all the attack animations from every game

  • @Azerinth
    @Azerinth Рік тому +1

    MY first thought when you described the blade profile was that it sounded like what an axe would be so i was gratified to see it held up on the wood test.

  • @Cionaoith
    @Cionaoith Рік тому +6

    Two things I noticed: 1. The Master Sword is meant to be used left-handed. 2. Your hearts are not full; you should be sending blasts of energy when you swing it.
    Hope that helps.

    • @crow3190
      @crow3190 Рік тому

      It depends on which game this is from, because the earlier games did have link left handed, but then skyward sword came out and Nintendo had to make link right handed because most players were and are right handed, which the games after skywards swords release have kept link as

    • @DamianPendragon
      @DamianPendragon Рік тому

      Naw link is right handed in botw and TP

  • @TriplePProductionz
    @TriplePProductionz Рік тому +2

    this is one of the episodes i was waiting for hoping you do, the other one i really wanna see is meta knights sword, galaxia, from kirby. hoping you do that some day too

  • @steve_yu
    @steve_yu Рік тому +4

    Given that Link almost always fights enemies bigger than him, I totally have no issue with the Master Sword cutting very well upwards 😅

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 Рік тому +1

    I like these shorted Shad videos.

  • @jynx7788
    @jynx7788 Рік тому +4

    I seem to remember link two handing the master sword several times in twilight princess.

    • @Dingus_Khaan
      @Dingus_Khaan Рік тому

      The Mortal Draw first came to mind on my end.

  • @darkgerry92
    @darkgerry92 Рік тому +3

    Can you review Zelda's armor in Hyrule Warriors? You know, for science.

  • @His_Realm
    @His_Realm Рік тому +1

    Really liking the Shadiversity gambeson!

  • @whiteraven1992
    @whiteraven1992 Рік тому +21

    I always interpreted the Master Sword (as heavy as it looks) being practically almost _weightless_ when wielded by a "worthy hero"; that being Link, among a long line of reincarnated individuals who carry the "Spirit of the Hero" within them.

    • @BlackHawk2b
      @BlackHawk2b Рік тому +9

      Yes and Link has above human strength anyway tbh

    • @Blue-fg8vt
      @Blue-fg8vt Рік тому +8

      ​@@BlackHawk2b tbh the hylian sheild is probably way heavyer

    • @BlackHawk2b
      @BlackHawk2b Рік тому +1

      @@Blue-fg8vt Good point

    • @kaneko.ayano.20X
      @kaneko.ayano.20X Рік тому

      It's more than just about weight, it's also about the shape, balance, and design of the sword.

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 Рік тому +1

    02:04. It's better ballanced because it has the Pommel of Doom.

  • @alinkinthechain
    @alinkinthechain Рік тому +3

    "I've never seen Link 2 hand the Master Sword"
    Me: Z target, jump attack.
    Edit: one comment on the blade geometry, something thst you have done videos on. A lot of people try to fit the Master Sword into an earlier typology like a type XII, but really its closer to a later period sword like a type XVIIIe or XIX

  • @elio7610
    @elio7610 Рік тому +2

    This was surprisingly informative.
    Also, seems appropriate that the master sword cut into wood fairly well, considering how player's use it as a tree felling tool in BotW.

  • @FierceDeity35
    @FierceDeity35 Рік тому +14

    The Master Sword, to your credit is more ornamental or ceremonial rather than a battle ready weapon. Used for sealing dimensions, stopping time or weakening evil.

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 Рік тому

      You can't be serious.
      Did you fight Demise in Skyward Sword?

    • @FierceDeity35
      @FierceDeity35 Рік тому

      @@chuckchan4127 skyward sword is my favorite game.
      I have over 3000 hours of it on the wii and 1000 on the switch.
      It was my first zelda game.
      The difference is that it is the sword and Link in its prime, (similar to Age Of Calamity) where the power of the triforce bolstered Link and therefore bolstered the sword.
      Link and the sword are intrinsically connected, both are a representation of eachother.
      If the sword is missing, so is Link, if the sword is damaged, so is Link, if the sword is broken, so is Link.
      Link cannot wield the full power of the sword in botw, because he himself is not at full power.

  • @PhanTrung14027
    @PhanTrung14027 Рік тому +1

    11:12 "It will keal" LMAO Shad's channel go from Myth Busters to Forged in Fire

  • @Lipizzaner.
    @Lipizzaner. Рік тому +4

    good video

  • @sanguiniusszuiriel4984
    @sanguiniusszuiriel4984 Рік тому

    You two are great together on screen. Been a fan since the original wood paneled room, loved this.

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 Рік тому +5

    Judging by the length of the blade, I think they designed it to be suitable for someone of Link's size.
    He's about 1.47 meters in height, so the length of the sword would be more appropriate for him.
    It would have to be scaled up a bit to be suitable for a grown human

  • @time-out-tuti-fruti5142
    @time-out-tuti-fruti5142 Рік тому

    Enjoying your channel with my son…. getting a kick out of you being a fellow Aussie for a change! Great channel.

  • @ducksinthewild
    @ducksinthewild Рік тому +4

    I would really like for someone to make an actual longsword inspired by the master sword. In-game we don't see Link using the sword two-handed but in animatics and other non-game play scenes, we do see him practice both one-handed and two-handed moves.

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 Рік тому

      More of a Bastard Sword / Hand and Half Sword.
      Note that when compared to most other one handed / arming swords, the master sword is quite long.

    • @Angelic_Hero
      @Angelic_Hero Рік тому

      he also holds it in both for jump attacks but thats still a small amount of attacks that i can rember in the various games where he does use both hands during actual play

    • @Skyfighter64
      @Skyfighter64 Рік тому

      I do think Link tends to have one 2-handed strike with the Master Sword in Ocarina of Time through Twilight Princess, that being the leaping overhead cut. In Smash, and added for Twilight Princess, I think his down-aerial stab also puts 2 hands on the handle.

  • @MikkosFree
    @MikkosFree Рік тому +2

    God damn that's beautiful. I want it like I have never wanted anything else.

  • @Roboplayer52
    @Roboplayer52 Рік тому +1

    Link has a habit of carrying a massive amount of gear, taking on opponents far larger than himself, and picking up gauntlets that boost his (already kinda absurd) upper body strength. In his hands, that sword is probably feels like a foil.

  • @proximo3257
    @proximo3257 Рік тому +2

    I like to think the blade trouble is canonical, and it's the sacred power of the blade that deals all the damage.

  • @93Hexer
    @93Hexer Рік тому +2

    Link uses the Mastersword two handed in any jump attack. In the games "Ocarina of Time" and "Majoras Mask" he grabs the sword in the air for a mor powerful downslash wich would be a reason why the jump attack is his most powerfull basic attack. In "Twilight Princess" he learns an advanced version of this technique where he grabs the sword two handed and preparing the jump by using a special stance. So yeah Link uses the sword quite a lot two handed.

  • @gywii
    @gywii Рік тому +1

    This is a great introduction to people that don't know a lot about swords as it brings in the people who just care about the Zelda. it's a great analysis on the pros and cons of the video game design, why it is the way it is and why it doesn't function in the real world as well as being a great analysis on sword crafting. It's a win win video. 👍

  • @MrWolfie321
    @MrWolfie321 Рік тому +1

    Imagine being Link trying to find where the master sword went, thinking it was stolen or something, and then seeing Zelda on the sheikah tablet watching two dudes reviewing it and roasting it lmao

  • @BowsettesFury
    @BowsettesFury Рік тому +1

    Wow that actually really pretty. Not a bad redesign to “make it real” but if for me personally I would rather the sword be as screen accurate possible.
    Because if it’s not then there’s no point for me. If you not going to make it accurate then make a new version altogether.
    Perfect example the apocalypse version of the Master Sword is just perfection. ❤

  • @arcanedream8330
    @arcanedream8330 Рік тому

    Of everything I saw in this video the thing that made me happiest was seeing you guys use eye protection. I've been genuinely concerned in the past about some of the destructive testing. Whenever there's splinters flying, or worse metal shards, there's always that 1:1,000,000 chance that one of them decides it wants a new home in your eye. It's such an easy risk to mitigate, and the cost for failing to do so is high.

  • @Gigzymandias
    @Gigzymandias Рік тому +1

    "It's not what we do to the wood, its what the wood does to our sword"
    classic forged in fire

  • @xavierfroidevaux955
    @xavierfroidevaux955 Рік тому +1

    nice vid! Thanks for it! was fun

  • @AdamPearsonLCAVG
    @AdamPearsonLCAVG 9 місяців тому

    I actually purchased this sword a while ago as a gift for my girlfriend. I will say in terms of appearance, the sword is STUNNING after polishing the hilt and pommel with Brasso. I also used some Sculpt Noveau dyed patina's and mica powder to give the game-accurate purple, as well as leather paint to get the green crosshatching on the handle and gold embossing on the scabbard. This video was SO helpful in seeing what the sword can actually do as a functional weapon.

  • @greenavmshorts9335
    @greenavmshorts9335 Рік тому +1

    Wait till we tell Shad we glued a boulder to a sword.

  • @ProfessorMike64
    @ProfessorMike64 Рік тому +1

    You should take a look at the Man at Arms versions of the Master Sword. There's two of 'em.
    Edit: or Heroic Replicas.

  • @steveeev
    @steveeev Рік тому +1

    11:27 that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we could call "Red Flag Face"

  • @bonechiller3429
    @bonechiller3429 Рік тому +1

    Can you guys check out the Fierce deity’s sword next if you havent already? One of the coolest looking great-swords in Zelda.

  • @SkyTowerKurogane
    @SkyTowerKurogane Рік тому

    I could see a 1to1 translation of that design into one of the games. Just a little more blue, a very dark shade, and I think it's a really beautiful look.

  • @lugiamastero13
    @lugiamastero13 Рік тому +1

    I think also its implied somewhere in lore that despite the sword being sorta blunt it gets incredibly sharp when it hits anything thats evil in a sense the blade has some sort of holy unseen sharpness that only activates on monsters perhaps its intended to be like that to avoid harming actual hylians who want to spar maybe?

  • @zeusthefox1585
    @zeusthefox1585 Рік тому +1

    What's funny is in Game the Master sword alot of the time sorta looks more like it's Slapping Enemies anyway.
    In Botw and Totk lots of Links Blows send enemies flying.
    Maybe the blade is suppose to be bad at Cutting?
    Also yeah the Brass coloring on the page looks to be more akin to the Master Swords Original design

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Рік тому +1

    "Never seen him use it with two."
    So we're just ignoring jumpslashes and downward finishers now...

  • @mattgay9320
    @mattgay9320 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this, I have been waiting for an in-depth analysis of this Master Sword as I have been contemplating getting this blade. I am making this comment before watching, so I can't wait!!

  • @emphorepolpatinedasenate
    @emphorepolpatinedasenate Рік тому +1

    When link does jump attacks he's holding with two hands

  • @janette2422
    @janette2422 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who plays Ocarina of time so much haha. Best soundtrack ever, too!

  • @JPG.01
    @JPG.01 Рік тому +1

    Came here from the short. Will watch after my trip to the gym.

  • @Hypershell
    @Hypershell Рік тому +1

    Yes, I HAVE seen Link 2-hand the Master Sword. Jump Attacks, locking blades with Ganondorf in Twilight Princess, his aerial downward thrusts, and the first half of his forward Smash attack in Super Smash Bros.

  • @codym5352
    @codym5352 Рік тому

    I've been using Budk for maybe 15 years now. Bought multiple knives, swords, pouches, fishing stuff and survival stuff, and even a bucket of emergency food with a shelf life and have been happy with everything I've ever gotten from them,

  • @AtlasAdratica
    @AtlasAdratica Рік тому +1

    Awesome vid!

  • @JMScibra
    @JMScibra Рік тому

    There are a few instances where he uses both hands in the games, notably the finishing blow or "down stab", and this also includes the Smash games. When Melee introduced being able to charge basic attacks, he also uses both hands when executing charged sideways attacks.

  • @VindicatorFSX
    @VindicatorFSX Рік тому

    Love the reviews! Keep it up guys! You rule!