I believe him…you can not tell by looks( forearm size )…all the muscles involved in the close are deep and under other muscles in the arm …he’s young but I bet his training age is several years deep…takes a long time to build the tendon strength…this is awesome for him and you should be proud he basically said Jedd Johnson inspired him along with John call(jujimufu)
@@Torsdagskvallsmys definitely agree brother. I can do alot that I seen big roided look guys can't. Tendon and grip strength building is awesome. Saw a guy who's a pro bodybuilder having trouble with Dumbells 60lbs with fatgrip pros cool beans. And I not only can do that easily at 245 and this dude is near 300 lbs of muscle and roided, but I add those 26lb Russian training bags on arm with 45 dbs with fatgrips Pros on em. Ivan can probably throw a big guy's who outweighs him a bunch thanks to his years of grip and Strongman training. I wonder what Ivan weighs nowadays.
Ivan is a great athlete. I wonder why so many people questioned him but never decided to look him up or see that he has plenty of proof of his strength
Yep and don't grippers lose some strength from their rgc rating over a 2-4 yr period. So a 212 rgc Close.might have been a 207-208 close? Still elite and fantastic by Ivan none the less. Anyone knows how long these heavy Coc grippers holds strength and say it's 1-3 yrs old.from the last rgc rating.. I have a 205 rgc rated coc 4 thats not quite a year old from CPW. And I wonder what the rgc will be say in 2024-2025? Will the strength rating fall a few pounds or remain the same? Anyone got info on this ?
everybody knew he was going to close a #4. I've been watching his videos since he first close a #3 a 17, and it was clear that he was going to close a #4 without an excessive set within a few years. Within the next year or so, I'm pretty sure he will be able to click it several times in a row like we humans do with a #2 and #2.5 for warm up..
@@gripstrength yeah. You just never know. I wonder if Mark felix trained he could certify with the 4. Suppose to have one of the strongests grips of all time in some categories. You rem him all?
@@Anemptybox These guys are in a different league to qianchen, He's all about doing whatever it takes to make the handles touch, Ivan can TNS a 180 rgc 3.5
Larry Wheels if you are our there, please please change your technique, and take lessons from Ivan. Its painful to watch you close any gripper. If I can get as close to closing a 3.5 as you, there is something wrong, brother. Add technique and Larry will smash the 3.5.
Awesome video, Grip Brother!! It's good to see you're still at it, and I'm glad we have a real grip master explaining the differences. I remember when Paul closed the 4 years ago but that Ivan kid is a beast. DIES🐱L!
I heard a couple times about a fella named Wes peart who was another young gripper star like Ivan. I believe someone said he closed a narrow pro or around there. It's hard to find data on him. Do you think he still trains and would rival Ivan or did he move on from grippers like Paul knight
sup jed great response to the coc 4 close..just wondering do you think ironmind might consider adding a coc 4.5 in the future as the bar is being set so high...i mean a teenager closing a coc 4 is just totally insane regardless of the setting method...thnx bro.
I don't think they will, personally. It's been brought up for years. But I could be wrong. We shall see. There's already plenty of grippers out on the market that are tight than the #4, anyway.
There's a kid on youtube who bought the beast gripper. It's about twice the size of a normal gripper and takes 1800lbs to close. No human could ever close it but somebody made it as a gimmick apparently.
@@jamesnm21 same with Cannonpowerwork's Unobtainium gripper. It's just as you described and uncloseable. They said themselves that the spring is so strong that it even if it could close by normal means, the handles would more than likely be damaged
@@gripstrength when we close a gripper,our fingers are not all at the very end of the handle where they put the strap for measuring the weight it takes to close it. In my opinion ....say...for example ivan chuk should squeeze a dynamometer and see how much he gets then compare with the heaviest rated gripper he can close
@@ionspataru-zn9wm I honestly have no interest in sending gripper rating processes. RGC is what we have used for 20 years and it is what we will always use
I am a subscriber of Ivan Cuk since early 2021 and I can tell you.......Ivan is fricking strong and powerful at this point. Check out his channel, he's really reach far.
@@gripstrength No my friend I didn't mean anything. It was really for the persons on the comment section to have an open mind, that's all. Don't need to exaggerate buddy. Oh and I actually comment on him that he could be an arm wrestler when he met John Brzenk back in 2021 and he wasn't interested but as you can see he wants to try it when he visit Larry Wheels which you mentioned about how he does hold CoC grippers which is totally off.
HI jedd indeed Ivan is legitimate. Hes doing some amazing things. Like a no set 3.5 and Ivan can definitely close some strong #4. Now coc#4s out of the package are hitting more than 215-230 out of the package. So he can do it if he builds more strength and do it easy if he gets a gripper that's in the 205-212 range. I would think you have to be able to close at least 218-220 something to have the best shot at cc.close out of the package. So going to be interesting to see who does it first Jedd and everyone. Nice Larry gave Ivan huge platform to showcase what could be the most powerful known gripper and crushing strength in a young strength athlete. Also I wonder is this the era someone closes a.ghp10 with a 250-280 rgc or better 🤔
So when it comes to setting the gripper which I learned last year, I liked the gripper placement advice and still use it, but not the actual setting part. I have smaller hands and don't know if that makes a difference, but I find it hard to hold a set. To get the credit card in I have to unwrap my pinky just to get the gripper to open back up enough which causes it to shift a little out of place. However when I grab it by the spring with my off hand I can stabilize the gripper and just crush it immediately from full open. I practice both so I can hopefully certify with the 3 one day, but currently I can crush the 2 a lot easier from fully open instead of set. I'll link a video because I'm curious if any of y'all think I could do better if I got better at setting it. ua-cam.com/users/shortst85Slvi3SG0?si=_tsAl9sC0-KBu9PR
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@@gripstrength I mean that it is necessary to use certain doping substances to be able to close the heavier clamps like the coc. n. 3.5 or 4 (obviously in combination with good technique) or is it just specific forearm and grip training?
@viktorjerez5459 you absolutely do NOT have to use doping substances to choose a 3.5 or 4. It's a matter of technique and training methods (like I teach in my products) over the long haul.
Going to real tuff to close a strong 4 out of a package, but Ivan looks ready to pull it off Jedd. How many trys they allow for certification. Is it one gripper and then Ivan would have to try again if it's failed attempt?
@@gripstrength I got you. I just thought you might have checked with the interest in grippers and grip training and grippers training features in martial arts and gun videos seeming to pick up lately. . I know its gotta to be way tuffer now since they want make sure you cant tamper with the gripper as rumours abound now with Kinney and others that they may not have legitmately closed #4s . I do see what youve been saying brother on you don't fully trust cerfied closers when no witnesses and the gripper not.shown opening up and of course a few of them never closed #4s in a public setting or out of a package again after certification with a reputable witnesses etc. Definitely suspect. Now maybe we see a real recognized and legit powerhouse Coc#4 certification with a few folks trying for it. 🥊👍
Why are we discussing Let’s give him the no4 which Magnus closed And let him get the certificate The coc certificate will prove these numbers Simple solution
Curious but slightly stupid question. When you are talking about the rating for the CoC grippers not done by Iron mind (like when you said that the #4 was around 208) is that done in lbs or kilos?
@@fresem how that even possible? when the 4 is rated for 365 lbs. and hows what youre saying dif than i poundage rating on the gripometer. surely a guy off the street can squeeze like a 110 and a world class guy isnt just twice as strong?
Those guys are all pretty much little dudes with superior relative grip strength. I'm a sense of absolute grip strength, I've got them big time. But as far as being able to handle my own bodyweight, flying around, catch myself, scaling obstacles, there just ain't any way I could hang with them
@@gripstrength so where does the 375 lbs come from? I watched your video but I don’t understand why they don’t just say what they are? There is a hell of a difference between 375 and 202
I believe him…you can not tell by looks( forearm size )…all the muscles involved in the close are deep and under other muscles in the arm …he’s young but I bet his training age is several years deep…takes a long time to build the tendon strength…this is awesome for him and you should be proud he basically said Jedd Johnson inspired him along with John call(jujimufu)
I didn't catch that! Holy cow. The audio was muffled, so I began to zone it out early. Thanks for pointing that out bro
@@gripstrength Randy don’t miss a trick! He’d been an excellent TGA interview Jedd.
@@Philo68 You just made me snarf.
Muscle size and strenght aint the same
@@Torsdagskvallsmys definitely agree brother. I can do alot that I seen big roided look guys can't. Tendon and grip strength building is awesome. Saw a guy who's a pro bodybuilder having trouble with Dumbells 60lbs with fatgrip pros cool beans. And I not only can do that easily at 245
and this dude is near 300 lbs of muscle and roided, but I add those 26lb Russian training bags on arm with 45 dbs with fatgrips Pros on em.
Ivan can probably throw a big guy's who outweighs him a bunch thanks to his years of grip and Strongman training. I wonder what Ivan weighs nowadays.
Ivan is a great athlete. I wonder why so many people questioned him but never decided to look him up or see that he has plenty of proof of his strength
People are lazy
@@gripstrength good point jedd.
Yepper. Too hard to Google or do a UA-cam search for most people.
@@gripstrength have you been bending at all recently?
Not for several years
Awesome video Jedd, I like how you discuss the importance of RGC. This is such an important aspect of grippers that most people never consider.
It's true bro!
Yep and don't grippers lose some strength from their rgc rating over a 2-4 yr period. So a 212 rgc Close.might have been a 207-208 close? Still elite and fantastic by Ivan none the less.
Anyone knows how long these heavy Coc grippers holds strength and say it's 1-3 yrs old.from the last rgc rating.. I have a 205 rgc rated coc 4 thats not quite a year old from CPW.
And I wonder what the rgc will be say in 2024-2025? Will the strength rating fall a few pounds or remain the same? Anyone got info on this ?
everybody knew he was going to close a #4. I've been watching his videos since he first close a #3 a 17, and it was clear that he was going to close a #4 without an excessive set within a few years. Within the next year or so, I'm pretty sure he will be able to click it several times in a row like we humans do with a #2 and #2.5 for warm up..
That'll be great to see
@@gripstrength yeah. You just never know. I wonder if Mark felix trained he could certify with the 4. Suppose to have one of the strongests grips of all time in some categories. You rem him all?
@@shel0016 yes of course I do
@@gripstrength I think he still does strongman stuff in his 50s. Wow
Ivan says he's trained for many years. One of my inspirations. Dedication is all it takes
Carl Myerscough, and David Shamey are the only other guys I know of that can currently close a 200+Ibs gripper.
Very small group of dudes, no doubt
Nathan Holle is in that group too
@@Stranger_Grip I know he used to be able to, I wasn't sure if he still could.
Qianchen Yang as well. He can also deep set around RGC 250.
@@Anemptybox These guys are in a different league to qianchen, He's all about doing whatever it takes to make the handles touch, Ivan can TNS a 180 rgc 3.5
Larry Wheels if you are our there, please please change your technique, and take lessons from Ivan. Its painful to watch you close any gripper. If I can get as close to closing a 3.5 as you, there is something wrong, brother. Add technique and Larry will smash the 3.5.
Agreed.
This^ Larry easily has the raw power to close the 4 but he is essentially TNS closing all his attempts
Interesting
@@resurrectiontrainingwhat does this mean?
Awesome video, Grip Brother!! It's good to see you're still at it, and I'm glad we have a real grip master explaining the differences. I remember when Paul closed the 4 years ago but that Ivan kid is a beast. DIES🐱L!
Thanks. What's your real name?
@@gripstrength Mark DeSouza
Cool. Thanks for watching
Totally legit. I was there at the Arnold when he smashed that 3.5. Love the cat invasion!!!
Yeah buddyyyyyy
I heard a couple times about a fella named Wes peart who was another young gripper star like Ivan. I believe someone said he closed a narrow pro or around there. It's hard to find data on him. Do you think he still trains and would rival Ivan or did he move on from grippers like Paul knight
Haven't heard from him in years. I don't remember what heights he reached. Best option would be to comb Gripboard.com
sup jed great response to the coc 4 close..just wondering do you think ironmind might consider adding a coc 4.5 in the future as the bar is being set so high...i mean a teenager closing a coc 4 is just totally insane regardless of the setting method...thnx bro.
I don't think they will, personally. It's been brought up for years. But I could be wrong. We shall see.
There's already plenty of grippers out on the market that are tight than the #4, anyway.
There's a kid on youtube who bought the beast gripper. It's about twice the size of a normal gripper and takes 1800lbs to close. No human could ever close it but somebody made it as a gimmick apparently.
@@jamesnm21 same with Cannonpowerwork's Unobtainium gripper. It's just as you described and uncloseable. They said themselves that the spring is so strong that it even if it could close by normal means, the handles would more than likely be damaged
3:10 but in real we can't stacking 4 fingers at the the end of the handle to close so the actual weight is more that that Ivan didn't wong
I'm not sure I follow
@@gripstrength when we close a gripper,our fingers are not all at the very end of the handle where they put the strap for measuring the weight it takes to close it. In my opinion ....say...for example ivan chuk should squeeze a dynamometer and see how much he gets then compare with the heaviest rated gripper he can close
@@ionspataru-zn9wm I honestly have no interest in sending gripper rating processes. RGC is what we have used for 20 years and it is what we will always use
They do grip classes at the Arnold's? Thats wild. Would love to compete some day
Yes, I've got videos up on my channel from this year's event
I am a subscriber of Ivan Cuk since early 2021 and I can tell you.......Ivan is fricking strong and powerful at this point. Check out his channel, he's really reach far.
Did I say something to make you think that I DON'T think he's strong???
@@gripstrength No my friend I didn't mean anything. It was really for the persons on the comment section to have an open mind, that's all. Don't need to exaggerate buddy. Oh and I actually comment on him that he could be an arm wrestler when he met John Brzenk back in 2021 and he wasn't interested but as you can see he wants to try it when he visit Larry Wheels which you mentioned about how he does hold CoC grippers which is totally off.
@@gripstrength So the comment is not for you, umderstood?!
@@halfers83 didn't think so
@@gripstrength Don't know what you mean but ok.
HI jedd indeed Ivan is legitimate. Hes doing some amazing things. Like a no set 3.5 and Ivan can definitely close some strong #4. Now coc#4s out of the package are hitting more than 215-230 out of the package. So he can do it if he builds more strength and do it easy if he gets a gripper that's in the 205-212 range. I would think you have to be able to close at least 218-220 something to have the best shot at cc.close out of the package. So going to be interesting to see who does it first Jedd and everyone. Nice Larry gave Ivan huge platform to showcase what could be the most powerful known gripper and crushing strength in a young strength athlete.
Also I wonder is this the era someone closes a.ghp10 with a 250-280 rgc or better 🤔
Totally agree he's legit
How do get the gripper rated is my question and thanks ?
Through CannonPowerWorks.com
Interesting information. Do you know how much it costs to to a certification
In the past it cost nothing. You'll have to check out their website or write them for the most accurate information.
So when it comes to setting the gripper which I learned last year, I liked the gripper placement advice and still use it, but not the actual setting part. I have smaller hands and don't know if that makes a difference, but I find it hard to hold a set. To get the credit card in I have to unwrap my pinky just to get the gripper to open back up enough which causes it to shift a little out of place. However when I grab it by the spring with my off hand I can stabilize the gripper and just crush it immediately from full open. I practice both so I can hopefully certify with the 3 one day, but currently I can crush the 2 a lot easier from fully open instead of set. I'll link a video because I'm curious if any of y'all think I could do better if I got better at setting it.
ua-cam.com/users/shortst85Slvi3SG0?si=_tsAl9sC0-KBu9PR
A service I provide in my business is video analysis for $20. If you'd like me to assess your technique, send me an email at jedd.diesel@gmail.com. Thanks
He’s good, he’s reeeeel good!
Yepper
When you doing a video on carls ghp 10 close?
I'm so busy with my Store project, I haven't even thought about it
Hello Jedd. May I ask, do you know what the Apollo deadlift record for 70 or 80 kgs guys? Thsnks
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A doubt, up to what clamp number a natural could reach (that is, without having to resort to the use of doping substances)
What are you eluding to, exactly?
@@gripstrength I mean that it is necessary to use certain doping substances to be able to close the heavier clamps like the coc. n. 3.5 or 4 (obviously in combination with good technique) or is it just specific forearm and grip training?
@viktorjerez5459 you absolutely do NOT have to use doping substances to choose a 3.5 or 4. It's a matter of technique and training methods (like I teach in my products) over the long haul.
@@gripstrength ok, thank you very much for clearing up my doubt, greetings 🖐
@viktorjerez5459 all the best
I've been training grip for 8 months now and is it important to consume alot of food the same like the strong man?
It's important to get all the calories you need
@@gripstrength oh! Thanks jedd I only consume 222 calories a day That's why my strength did not really increase.
222 calories eh?
@@gripstrength yeah I only consume 3 eggs in a day.
@@strengthhistory1936 good luck with that
Take it easy on Cardboard, bro! Shim loves you.♥️
Lol
Going to real tuff to close a strong 4 out of a package, but Ivan looks ready to pull it off Jedd. How many trys they allow for certification. Is it one gripper and then Ivan would have to try again if it's failed attempt?
I'm sure that info is on the IronMind website
@@gripstrength Cool thanks Jedd. I'll take a look.
No offense, people ask me CONSTANTLY about IM's rules and I stopped following them years ago. Much better off to just go to the site.
@@gripstrength I got you. I just thought you might have checked with the interest in grippers and grip training and grippers training features in martial arts and gun videos seeming to pick up lately. .
I know its gotta to be way tuffer now since they want make sure you cant tamper with the gripper as rumours abound now with Kinney and others that they may not have legitmately closed #4s . I do see what youve been saying brother on you don't fully trust cerfied closers when no witnesses and the gripper not.shown opening up and of course a few of them never closed #4s in a public setting or out of a package again after certification with a reputable witnesses etc. Definitely suspect. Now maybe we see a real recognized and legit powerhouse Coc#4 certification with a few folks trying for it.
🥊👍
Ya, ironmind use to have people around the country who they used as judges for anyone who was shooting for a list placement.
Correct. Not sure on current rules. I'm sure they're on the website for the procedure.
Ivan is just so superior genetically people wont believe it xd
That may be the case as well
I think that maybe he could have done a second rep
Very possible
Why are we discussing
Let’s give him the no4 which Magnus closed
And let him get the certificate
The coc certificate will prove these numbers
Simple solution
Simple
Curious but slightly stupid question. When you are talking about the rating for the CoC grippers not done by Iron mind (like when you said that the #4 was around 208) is that done in lbs or kilos?
If I remember correctly, Ivan's #4 had a rating of 96.2kg, which is around 211lbs.
Depends on who rates it. 208-212 is pounds. In the Larry video it was clearly stated 90 something kilos.
@@gripstrength thx
@@fresem how that even possible? when the 4 is rated for 365 lbs. and hows what youre saying dif than i poundage rating on the gripometer. surely a guy off the street can squeeze like a 110 and a world class guy isnt just twice as strong?
The IronMind numbers are bullshit.
RGC ratings are what we use and are generated with a standardized device.
I wonder if someone with grip like that would own in Ninja warrior where grip becomes every obstacle.
Those guys are all pretty much little dudes with superior relative grip strength.
I'm a sense of absolute grip strength, I've got them big time. But as far as being able to handle my own bodyweight, flying around, catch myself, scaling obstacles, there just ain't any way I could hang with them
Iron mind are posting certification videos with no card nowadays from their own channel Edit: i was mistaken
Got a link?
Are you sure about that, because this is the most recent cert video and he used a card:
ua-cam.com/video/Yzm8aNULVJ4/v-deo.html
Ah fuck maybe i watched an older video recently then, i must have been mistaken
The no 4 coc is 375lbs
No it's not. Look up RGC, Gripper Ratings, etc on my channel
@@gripstrength so where does the 375 lbs come from? I watched your video but I don’t understand why they don’t just say what they are? There is a hell of a difference between 375 and 202
I'll reveal more in the #31DaysOfQnA in December
i know right lol@@brandonjohnson7559
Fking cat! Go on! GIT! ( I have 2 and I understand this😂)
Lol lol lol
Awesome, his name is a bit unfortunate in English but amazing grip strength.
I lifted 150 kg for biceps 🦾. Can you?
Not sure what that means
very super... cuk isd strong ...ggood ligament tendon strong... legit
Thanks for watching and commenting