This happened too late for me to include it in the video, but workers at Bethesda have unionized! This makes them the first studio within Xbox to form a union. I hope to see more of this very soon! www.ign.com/articles/bethesda-game-studios-microsoft-game-studios
Why would you be happy with unionization? What unions means no right to work, therefore those entrenched are hard to fire. Means quality of games will drop.
@@sillymesilly literally who said I'm happy? and if they get labor rights they will still be in a shit company that doesn't care about anything other than money. Isn't that obvious? Labor rights will not give artistic freedom or change the type of game the company will make
The majority of gamers play repeatedly what they are good at: Fortnite, COD and sports games. These games also sell consoles, while, sadly, this title is viewed as a short time distraction. This is why imaginative studios are easily dumped, for they don't make the money and aren't guaranteed to make the big bucks.
I'm honestly glad that this kind of behaviour is finally being called out and people shift their attention towards indie studios more. This stuff has been going on for years, especially at Microsoft. I remember when they bought up Rare to pull their fans to the Xbox360 where they released one Banjo Game that floped so hard the IP was never heard of again and immediately workers got axed. Absolutely dispicable.
Lol what, rare was bougt to make kinekt games then sea of thieves, which made a lot more money. The developers at rare, do not want to make another banjo game in various interviews. Let it go man.
That's the catch, everyone at Xbox CAN use the Banjo IP, but no one wants to. Developers want to make their ideas, not working on an old IP just because some Nintendo fans ask for it@@caetmoniza8907
This really is a special game, and the way Tango got shut down proves exactly what Hi-Fi Rush was trying to say with it's narrative. Art and money obsessed corporations do not mix together well, as the value of the artists behind the work is always undervalued. This will always be one of my all time favorite games, and Xbox rewarding the developers by firing all of them made me lose the small amount of respect I had left for Xbox. You nailed it with this video
They closed Tango because the creative leadership left. And the language barrier added an additional level of challenge for them to collaborate with other studios the way most of the other teams do.
xbox is allergic to good games and good decisions. its also crazy to see Phil Spencer go from having a cult of personality, as if he were Xbox' Reggie, to being one of the most hated men in the industry.
What all men with power go through…corruption. Eventually…inevitabley…you become a tyrant blinded by greed. Only the strongest of wills are able to handle the pressure as CEOs with creativity are severely lacking nowadays. One example: Pilestedt of Arrowhead games was once the CEO, he was a great one at that, however he had made a decision to step down from that role, he felt he wasn’t fit and wanted too be more hands on the game rather than to be more business. Immediately he already became one of the best CEOs even if he had stepped down right after. A good CEO listens to their clients and employee’s needs and basic commen sense. And most importantly…creativity. Most gaming CEOs either never had it or lost it. All because of corporate greed and power.
Ironically enough, Hi-fi Rush could've either saved Xbox or represented it downfall. Unfortunately, Xbox took the latter route, and HiFi Rush is fittingly the symbol of their failures.
Nice to see more creators talking about this. I'm really disappointed with the state of the games industry, especially seeing how many studios were actively punished for making some of their greatest works in 2023. I think the hidden song in Hi-Fi Rush, "Making Things is Hard", puts a perfect bow on this situation. These guys put their heart and soul into a game that we all recognized the effort for, only to watch the studio crash and burn because Microsoft thoroughly misunderstood the success that was right in front of them.
One thing to note is that most recent video games always require online and are live services, even those that only support single player modes, just like recent mobile games. The problem with this is that once the server gets shuts down, you can’t play it anymore. Many companies even fail to notice this
I see a lot of videos about the gaming industry but ultimately it's the same story of late-stage capitalism that is happening in all industries. All huge corporations trying to exploit their workers and customers for the sake of maximizing share holder profits. Gaming, Energy, Movies, Pharmaceutical, insurance, software, airplanes etc. We need strong unions, regulations and end corruption in a broader scale.
What it's with Dishonored 3? Arkane Austin didn't made 1 and 2 they helped arkane lyon, the studio that actually made the Dishonored games. Prey 2017 is the only full game they made and 75% of the people who made that game left the studio before redfall was even announced, arkane Austin was long dead inside, the remaining 30% of the original studio were moved to other studios from Microsoft
4:20 "everything's in sync with the music, down to the lights on this machine" ...are you sure? I tried really hard to see them as being on-sync with the music playing. Maybe the first 2 light changes, but not the subsequent. Or maybe you were playing a separate audio track over the video
You got to be kidding me. You're telling me the devs from Hi-Fi Rush got fired? That's one of the only games I actually finished on the couple of months I had game pass. It was an amazing experience.
I really hope you’re right, especially with the whole Tango Gameworks shut down creating a PR Nightmare for Microsoft. At the same time tho, part of me really hopes nothing new happens with the Hi-Fi Rush without the og developers, because I have a really horrible feeling that they’d fuck it up really badly. Then again tho, DOOM exists, so we’ll see
@@mrsoisauce9017 I mean Fallout wasn't a original Bethesda title tho I doubt they would do Hi-Fi Rush even if they publish since every game nowadays have to be a Oscar Cinematic piece that's wearing the skin of a game
@@joelbarraclough6689 like I said: DOOM exists. If there is a team at Bethesda who is willing and able to take up the challenge of designing the next Hi-Fi Rush game, I’m sure it will be done well under them The only question at this point is whether or not that team exists at Bethesda or Microsoft as a whole, but after seeing the Xbox Games Showcase, there might be a chance
you still dont know the reason why tango and arkhane shut down i'll give you a hint for arkane "70% of the original team at arkane left the studio by the time redfall launched" in other words the Talent left the studio and xbox learned a lesson from that event which is (people make games, not studios) it was arkhane only in name at that point and Phil tried to explain it in corprate speak by saying "they were no longer viable" which confused a ton of people and just upset alot more and as for tango the hint i'll give is that check when the creators of "the evil within and hifi rush" left to go make thier own independent studio (they didnt leave alone check how many people left with them) it's easy to say xbox bad but trust me the real full story here is super interesting and might make your blood boil hotter and xbox could have saved these studios but in truth they were on thier way out thanks to zenimax and bethesda and xbox arrived with a hands off appraoch which just kept things rolling in a terrible direction. you'll understand why they said they need more games like hifi rush after shutting down the studio.
So, you're saying that, after Microsoft buys a studio, the talent leaves? If true, why would the talent leave? Why wouldn't they want to work under Microsoft?
@@stripedrajang3571 go read the articles 1. Arkane staff left because of Bethesda forcing them to make live service (Redfall) 2. For tango staff go read the articles they just went independent for Thier own reasons None of them left because of Microsoft, Microsoft just made a bad investment because they can in as things were already falling apart but decided they would be hands off and trust the process and by the time they decided to become hands on it was too late the talent was gone.
@@stripedrajang3571The Arkane talent left before the acquisition, the Redfall development started way before that About Tango, idk, sometimes it happens. Like with Japan Studios at PlayStation
2:40 Haven't watched the rest of the video, but do you think that might actually be it? They cut the cord on Tango Gameworks because the made such a big middle finger to the sorts of mindsets and games that XBox really wanted to utilise?
Needless to say, another Kohana banger - I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that the way forward is to prove that there is a market for fully completed, battlepassless, artistic games. These days I feel so much less excitement for new AAA games compared to indie games, with a few exceptions - and usually that is because indies aren't implementing all of these horrible practices which require you to pump more and more money into them to get the best experience out of the game. The point you made about sunk cost fallacy really made something click in my brain though, I first played league of legends over a decade ago and kept playing it very regularly (and sometimes for far, far too long), putting bits of money into skins for champions I liked and whatnot. During those 10 years though, I think I had quite a few spells where I didn't really feel too much joy from playing the game and I was honestly partly playing it because I'd already spent so much time (and money, to a much lesser degree) on it and thought all of that would be a waste to throw away, so I continued to put more and more hours into it. It eventually took this year's season, which changed so much about the game in ways I didn't really enjoy very much, along with my life just getting way too busy to play games like that, for me to stop playing it.
I just built a new gaming PC and I have literally no AAA game that has come out in the last five years from a western developer that I want to play. Absolutely no interest in what major studios have on offer. On the other hand, with the indies and Japanese game studios, still haven't played Hi-Fi Rush, Hollow Knight, Disco Elysium, Persona 5, etc.
14:14 I feel like you're dismissing people who genuinely enjoy live service games. They love the ongoing content and community, and you're missing the value these games offer them.
Just to be clear, I don’t bear any ill will toward people who enjoy those games, and I totally get their appeal. Lord knows I’ve spent thousands of hours on Fortnite and Minecraft lol. I will not deny that live service games have strengths that offline single-player games can’t replicate, but my overall argument is that these games are made as products first and foremost, with fun gameplay as a secondary priority. Hope that clears some things up :)
I think part of the reason why games like these come out despite constant flak is due to games taking longer to make in general. By the time a company might realize that nobody wants their products they would have already invested millions into a project
Great video! I was impressed by your opinions on this stuff. I'm working on a decently large open-world indie game, and if I ever start a development studio, I will never sell my soul to Microsoft.
They killed great games to stop players being pulled away from Call of Duty.....That's all Microsoft wants to succeed...COD and lets be honest that's all they ever wanted from the start.
I pray with all of my MIGHT that double fine unionizes or gets the fuck out of Microsoft, because boy are they not safe. Their whole deal is making art with money as a secondary regard
Because modern gamers shouldn't witness how good and creative games can be and were. Better stick to live service, open world camp clearing, and, if you are indie, 2D pixel roguelikes or metroidvanias for convenience and easy money
I feel bad good games on ps5 and xbox i might not own one but i know good games in each console and ita dissapointing when good quality games are put under the rug
HiFi Rush seems like a middle finger to Microsoft in particular. Bc they are an industry giant, and they basically do control a large portion of the world through Windows. Its just unfortunately one of the best studios in gaming was shuttered for seemingly no reason other than greed.
Man this video went way further than expected. Well said though. I am old enough to have seen the whole evolution of video game industry, and i really dislike what it became. As you say, it's more about money than creativity, and we can thank the indie devs to have some good variety. DLCs ruined a lot too. Rare case i allow them are for fighting games i love, because it makes them live longer, but at what cost... Worst case being when they remove content to put it in pre-order, deluxe version, in-game shop. Another big topic would be free games and gacha games.
New Kohana banger just dropped 🔥🔥 another thing that sucks about these corporations is the rampant discrimination and harassment in them, and the perpetrators don't even get punished for their actions
“Xbox doesn’t care about art” is just a untrue fan boyish statement lol the video was doing so good til that point. They still make niche non live service games like Hellblade, Psychonauts and Avowed stop the cap
Pretty sure he wasn't talking about people that are in the artistic space and moreso to higher-ups, business men, sales teams, just people that work more with business, finances, legalities, and sales. It's like saying Nintendo doesn't care about modding, everyone automatically knows they're talking about Nintendo's lawyers.
Yeah, this video is filled with over the top nonsense, as though they mysteriously closed Tango because the anti-corporate message offended Microsoft. 😂 Ever seen the Fallout TV show?
I bet the answer is just even though us as a community, or at least a minority of us, liked it from the first look it's not probably all that popular, and it didn't make enough money it's a very easy answer but this is my just my two cents
Most gaming issues would fix if all gamers stopped buying micro transactions or season passes. It's not corporate incompetence that is destroying all this games (tho it's not the opposite either), but rather an issue of market incentives. (mostly agreeing with the video conclusions)
I'm glad that lately we are seeing a lot more people playing and cherishing indie games, you could say it was always there but less then 10 years ago the big influencers, gamers and games media(IGN and etc) barely gave a shit unless it was a hit that they never saw coming, but with more hits through the years, now everybody got an eye on the indies. However, my biggest fear is that companies will try to use that to their advantage or will try to trick people to lose their perception of what indie is, it may sound dumb, but last year on the TGA from Geoff's was a big red flag for me, with Dave the Diver getting nominated, there was controversy thank god not everyone is that dumb to notice, but that show is voted by "gaming journalists and influencers", and after that i saw alot of people, inclunding Geoff, talking stuff like "what is indie? is it a felling? Kojima is indie", like, WTF? and people start parroting this, with stuff like FROMSOFTWARE is indie, and Larian which was the talk of the town last year, is insane. This could cause problems way down the line because people are dumb, there may not be a concensus of what a "indie game" is, i get that, there is too many situations, but people know what a indie game is, and is not a fucking feeling or style like indie rock for fucks sake. edit: for spacing
They crashed already. 6 years ago everyone was going nuts for indies, nowadays, no one cares. They saturated the market and for every good indie that is innovative we have 9 castlevania/pokemon/zelda/harvest moon clone
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This happened too late for me to include it in the video, but workers at Bethesda have unionized! This makes them the first studio within Xbox to form a union. I hope to see more of this very soon! www.ign.com/articles/bethesda-game-studios-microsoft-game-studios
Xenoblade 2 and 3 is anti corporation like hi fi rush.You should analyze it.
and? Doesn't change the fact that they're still working at a shitty company
Why would you be happy with unionization? What unions means no right to work, therefore those entrenched are hard to fire. Means quality of games will drop.
@@sillymesilly literally who said I'm happy? and if they get labor rights they will still be in a shit company that doesn't care about anything other than money. Isn't that obvious?
Labor rights will not give artistic freedom or change the type of game the company will make
Raven at Activision was first and Microsoft acknowledged their union as well.
The majority of gamers play repeatedly what they are good at: Fortnite, COD and sports games. These games also sell consoles, while, sadly, this title is viewed as a short time distraction. This is why imaginative studios are easily dumped, for they don't make the money and aren't guaranteed to make the big bucks.
I'm honestly glad that this kind of behaviour is finally being called out and people shift their attention towards indie studios more. This stuff has been going on for years, especially at Microsoft. I remember when they bought up Rare to pull their fans to the Xbox360 where they released one Banjo Game that floped so hard the IP was never heard of again and immediately workers got axed. Absolutely dispicable.
Lol what, rare was bougt to make kinekt games then sea of thieves, which made a lot more money.
The developers at rare, do not want to make another banjo game in various interviews. Let it go man.
If rare doesn’t even, plan on making any new Banjo Kazzoie games, then they should be give Banjo IP and some of their other IPs to a different company
That's the catch, everyone at Xbox CAN use the Banjo IP, but no one wants to. Developers want to make their ideas, not working on an old IP just because some Nintendo fans ask for it@@caetmoniza8907
“It’s my ip to sit on and do nothing with”
@@oo--7714Lmao let him run with his narrative. People have no idea how anything works
This really is a special game, and the way Tango got shut down proves exactly what Hi-Fi Rush was trying to say with it's narrative. Art and money obsessed corporations do not mix together well, as the value of the artists behind the work is always undervalued. This will always be one of my all time favorite games, and Xbox rewarding the developers by firing all of them made me lose the small amount of respect I had left for Xbox. You nailed it with this video
They closed Tango because the creative leadership left. And the language barrier added an additional level of challenge for them to collaborate with other studios the way most of the other teams do.
xbox is allergic to good games and good decisions.
its also crazy to see Phil Spencer go from having a cult of personality, as if he were Xbox' Reggie, to being one of the most hated men in the industry.
If true, what changed him?
What all men with power go through…corruption. Eventually…inevitabley…you become a tyrant blinded by greed. Only the strongest of wills are able to handle the pressure as CEOs with creativity are severely lacking nowadays. One example: Pilestedt of Arrowhead games was once the CEO, he was a great one at that, however he had made a decision to step down from that role, he felt he wasn’t fit and wanted too be more hands on the game rather than to be more business. Immediately he already became one of the best CEOs even if he had stepped down right after. A good CEO listens to their clients and employee’s needs and basic commen sense. And most importantly…creativity. Most gaming CEOs either never had it or lost it. All because of corporate greed and power.
I see.
its tragic that these games and studios keep taking the punches for xbox's bad decisions
Government intervention will never impact this behavior nearly as much as the money in live service games disappearing.
Do people even like "Games as a service"? From my point of view they are shitpieces. ALL of them.
Ironically enough, Hi-fi Rush could've either saved Xbox or represented it downfall. Unfortunately, Xbox took the latter route, and HiFi Rush is fittingly the symbol of their failures.
Short answer:
Its not CoD
Nice to see more creators talking about this. I'm really disappointed with the state of the games industry, especially seeing how many studios were actively punished for making some of their greatest works in 2023.
I think the hidden song in Hi-Fi Rush, "Making Things is Hard", puts a perfect bow on this situation. These guys put their heart and soul into a game that we all recognized the effort for, only to watch the studio crash and burn because Microsoft thoroughly misunderstood the success that was right in front of them.
we are so back (?)
One thing to note is that most recent video games always require online and are live services, even those that only support single player modes, just like recent mobile games. The problem with this is that once the server gets shuts down, you can’t play it anymore. Many companies even fail to notice this
Phil Spencer: I'll be honest with you Mikami, We never cared about having Japanese Studios we just wanted to buy Zenimax for Bethesda.
I see a lot of videos about the gaming industry but ultimately it's the same story of late-stage capitalism that is happening in all industries.
All huge corporations trying to exploit their workers and customers for the sake of maximizing share holder profits.
Gaming, Energy, Movies, Pharmaceutical, insurance, software, airplanes etc.
We need strong unions, regulations and end corruption in a broader scale.
Every year it's made clearer: Every company wants more money than there can be on earth.
sometimes it feels like nintendo is the only company around not deadset on killing creatives and dismantling themselves from the inside
Another certified Kohana classic
Nintendo has done some weird things but at least they almost never layoff people. In fact, Nintendo has hired thousands of people in recent years
What it's with Dishonored 3? Arkane Austin didn't made 1 and 2 they helped arkane lyon, the studio that actually made the Dishonored games. Prey 2017 is the only full game they made and 75% of the people who made that game left the studio before redfall was even announced, arkane Austin was long dead inside, the remaining 30% of the original studio were moved to other studios from Microsoft
4:20 "everything's in sync with the music, down to the lights on this machine" ...are you sure? I tried really hard to see them as being on-sync with the music playing. Maybe the first 2 light changes, but not the subsequent. Or maybe you were playing a separate audio track over the video
The latter, if you'd played the game you'd know that indeed, EVERYTHING is to the beat
You got to be kidding me. You're telling me the devs from Hi-Fi Rush got fired?
That's one of the only games I actually finished on the couple of months I had game pass. It was an amazing experience.
what is the game that is shown in the clip at 0:51 ?
Disco Elisyum
There is a case it's still alive under Bethesda or Xbox Studios but im not getting my hopes up
I really hope you’re right, especially with the whole Tango Gameworks shut down creating a PR Nightmare for Microsoft. At the same time tho, part of me really hopes nothing new happens with the Hi-Fi Rush without the og developers, because I have a really horrible feeling that they’d fuck it up really badly. Then again tho, DOOM exists, so we’ll see
@@mrsoisauce9017 I mean Fallout wasn't a original Bethesda title tho I doubt they would do Hi-Fi Rush even if they publish since every game nowadays have to be a Oscar Cinematic piece that's wearing the skin of a game
@@joelbarraclough6689 like I said: DOOM exists. If there is a team at Bethesda who is willing and able to take up the challenge of designing the next Hi-Fi Rush game, I’m sure it will be done well under them The only question at this point is whether or not that team exists at Bethesda or Microsoft as a whole, but after seeing the Xbox Games Showcase, there might be a chance
Dude I loooovvveee the soundtrack of this game!!!
lol next time xbox said a game sold well
its most likely about to die
Arkane Austin wasn't responsible for Dishonored... I know you have a theme, but you should have facts in a scripted video.
you still dont know the reason why tango and arkhane shut down
i'll give you a hint for arkane "70% of the original team at arkane left the studio by the time redfall launched" in other words the Talent left the studio and xbox learned a lesson from that event which is (people make games, not studios) it was arkhane only in name at that point and Phil tried to explain it in corprate speak by saying "they were no longer viable" which confused a ton of people and just upset alot more
and as for tango the hint i'll give is that check when the creators of "the evil within and hifi rush" left to go make thier own independent studio (they didnt leave alone check how many people left with them)
it's easy to say xbox bad but trust me the real full story here is super interesting and might make your blood boil hotter and xbox could have saved these studios but in truth they were on thier way out thanks to zenimax and bethesda and xbox arrived with a hands off appraoch which just kept things rolling in a terrible direction.
you'll understand why they said they need more games like hifi rush after shutting down the studio.
So, you're saying that, after Microsoft buys a studio, the talent leaves?
If true, why would the talent leave? Why wouldn't they want to work under Microsoft?
@@stripedrajang3571 go read the articles
1. Arkane staff left because of Bethesda forcing them to make live service (Redfall)
2. For tango staff go read the articles they just went independent for Thier own reasons
None of them left because of Microsoft, Microsoft just made a bad investment because they can in as things were already falling apart but decided they would be hands off and trust the process and by the time they decided to become hands on it was too late the talent was gone.
@@stripedrajang3571The Arkane talent left before the acquisition, the Redfall development started way before that
About Tango, idk, sometimes it happens. Like with Japan Studios at PlayStation
I see.
@15:30 Anthem can still be played. There are still (small) groups online. I just completed it a few weeks ago.
How come you never mentioned Korsica during the story synopsis since she's also a key player in the conflict?
spoilers, probably
@@epicgamner1139 Even though he spoiled Kale's demise?
@@heardofrvb id argue korsica is a more interesting spoiler vs you killing the big bad tho he kinda spoils it through footage
2:40 Haven't watched the rest of the video, but do you think that might actually be it? They cut the cord on Tango Gameworks because the made such a big middle finger to the sorts of mindsets and games that XBox really wanted to utilise?
That’s nonsense. They closed Tango because the creative leadership left.
Needless to say, another Kohana banger - I absolutely wholeheartedly agree that the way forward is to prove that there is a market for fully completed, battlepassless, artistic games. These days I feel so much less excitement for new AAA games compared to indie games, with a few exceptions - and usually that is because indies aren't implementing all of these horrible practices which require you to pump more and more money into them to get the best experience out of the game.
The point you made about sunk cost fallacy really made something click in my brain though, I first played league of legends over a decade ago and kept playing it very regularly (and sometimes for far, far too long), putting bits of money into skins for champions I liked and whatnot. During those 10 years though, I think I had quite a few spells where I didn't really feel too much joy from playing the game and I was honestly partly playing it because I'd already spent so much time (and money, to a much lesser degree) on it and thought all of that would be a waste to throw away, so I continued to put more and more hours into it. It eventually took this year's season, which changed so much about the game in ways I didn't really enjoy very much, along with my life just getting way too busy to play games like that, for me to stop playing it.
Warframe, brother. Warframe and Digital Extremes wiĺl forever show what can be done if you truly, truly do have a vision.
Heard some banging Xenoblade music in the video… maybe a XC video in the future? 👀
It’ll absolutely happen one of these days.
I just built a new gaming PC and I have literally no AAA game that has come out in the last five years from a western developer that I want to play. Absolutely no interest in what major studios have on offer.
On the other hand, with the indies and Japanese game studios, still haven't played Hi-Fi Rush, Hollow Knight, Disco Elysium, Persona 5, etc.
ooh play persona 5 that one's a classic it was my favorite game of 2023
Try elden ring, bannerlord, or cities skylines 2 for your gaming PC. They're the only good AAA titles I can think of at the moment.
Indies are trash for the most part aswell. Overrated games that are castlevania, pokemon or zelda clones for the most part.
I'm done with them
@@easyygo3008 if there ever was a blanket statement
Doom Eternal
14:14 I feel like you're dismissing people who genuinely enjoy live service games. They love the ongoing content and community, and you're missing the value these games offer them.
Just to be clear, I don’t bear any ill will toward people who enjoy those games, and I totally get their appeal. Lord knows I’ve spent thousands of hours on Fortnite and Minecraft lol. I will not deny that live service games have strengths that offline single-player games can’t replicate, but my overall argument is that these games are made as products first and foremost, with fun gameplay as a secondary priority. Hope that clears some things up :)
I think part of the reason why games like these come out despite constant flak is due to games taking longer to make in general. By the time a company might realize that nobody wants their products they would have already invested millions into a project
Hi-Fi Rush, LES GO. Love this game. Glad you made a video on it.
Great video! I was impressed by your opinions on this stuff. I'm working on a decently large open-world indie game, and if I ever start a development studio, I will never sell my soul to Microsoft.
i was gonna buy bo6 in the hopes that the zombies mode is actually good this time around, but after what happened in may i simply can't
Endless growth is not possible, but that's what the world is built on. One way trip to hell
Blame the XBOTS
And Microsoft
They killed great games to stop players being pulled away from Call of Duty.....That's all Microsoft wants to succeed...COD and lets be honest that's all they ever wanted from the start.
16:22 I wouldn't entirely agree with that, mainly because of GTA 5 and Fortnite.
That's what I think of Nintendo eShop on 3DS and Wii U.
I pray with all of my MIGHT that double fine unionizes or gets the fuck out of Microsoft, because boy are they not safe. Their whole deal is making art with money as a secondary regard
Because modern gamers shouldn't witness how good and creative games can be and were. Better stick to live service, open world camp clearing, and, if you are indie, 2D pixel roguelikes or metroidvanias for convenience and easy money
Didn't play a single title you are so happy with. I play one franchise and I get a new one every 6 years. So i didn't touch this rhythm junk
As a former QA for Activision Blizzard. Man I whole heartedly agree.
Damn, what a spoiler 3:43
I feel bad good games on ps5 and xbox i might not own one but i know good games in each console and ita dissapointing when good quality games are put under the rug
Dude, Im going to play it again!! I love hack and slash like DMC!(Great fan of this). But, this game!! It just nailed it!
Let's play Monopoly!
And i hate platformers, first person anything, shooters, multiplayer, indie, music, sports, fighting, stealth, souls, racing, rogue, turn based trash
Because money.
THEY NEED MORE MONEY!
They mad gooned when the cod money came in from activision
Dont forget Warframe. It's all I'll ever know
HiFi Rush seems like a middle finger to Microsoft in particular. Bc they are an industry giant, and they basically do control a large portion of the world through Windows. Its just unfortunately one of the best studios in gaming was shuttered for seemingly no reason other than greed.
No reason? You think that’s how things work in this business?
@@tronam Yup, because thats exactly how things work.
@@unironicallydel7527 I'm sure it had nothing to do with Tango's creative leadership leaving the studio.
@@tronam Whatever you say, buddy. Continue being a microsoft shill.
Fintlock:Siege of dawn is better game. Than hi-fi rush. But hate mob maffia voting down. Is very hard make inbesils gamers anything good making.
I appreciate all the Xenoblade music in the second half 👊
I'm assuming you're a Xenoblade Chronicles fan?
Man this video went way further than expected.
Well said though.
I am old enough to have seen the whole evolution of video game industry, and i really dislike what it became. As you say, it's more about money than creativity, and we can thank the indie devs to have some good variety.
DLCs ruined a lot too. Rare case i allow them are for fighting games i love, because it makes them live longer, but at what cost...
Worst case being when they remove content to put it in pre-order, deluxe version, in-game shop.
Another big topic would be free games and gacha games.
So they wan to become Chinese AAA Games. Xp derp
This video would seem more like genuine concern for Hi Fi Rush if it wasn't packed with so many ads.
New Kohana banger just dropped 🔥🔥 another thing that sucks about these corporations is the rampant discrimination and harassment in them, and the perpetrators don't even get punished for their actions
“Xbox doesn’t care about art” is just a untrue fan boyish statement lol the video was doing so good til that point. They still make niche non live service games like Hellblade, Psychonauts and Avowed stop the cap
Pretty sure he wasn't talking about people that are in the artistic space and moreso to higher-ups, business men, sales teams, just people that work more with business, finances, legalities, and sales. It's like saying Nintendo doesn't care about modding, everyone automatically knows they're talking about Nintendo's lawyers.
Yeah, this video is filled with over the top nonsense, as though they mysteriously closed Tango because the anti-corporate message offended Microsoft. 😂 Ever seen the Fallout TV show?
I bet the answer is just even though us as a community, or at least a minority of us, liked it from the first look it's not probably all that popular, and it didn't make enough money it's a very easy answer but this is my just my two cents
Ppl didn’t buy Tango’s games
I bought Hi Fi Rush for PS5
@@bailujen8052 nice, but what about their other 3 games ?
@@JonathanTacoman I remember having a copy of the evil within 1 on PS3
Bro said spider mid 2 was good lol
Super Mario 65 when?
Great video!
Most gaming issues would fix if all gamers stopped buying micro transactions or season passes.
It's not corporate incompetence that is destroying all this games (tho it's not the opposite either), but rather an issue of market incentives. (mostly agreeing with the video conclusions)
I'm glad that lately we are seeing a lot more people playing and cherishing indie games, you could say it was always there but less then 10 years ago the big influencers, gamers and games media(IGN and etc) barely gave a shit unless it was a hit that they never saw coming, but with more hits through the years, now everybody got an eye on the indies.
However, my biggest fear is that companies will try to use that to their advantage or will try to trick people to lose their perception of what indie is, it may sound dumb, but last year on the TGA from Geoff's was a big red flag for me, with Dave the Diver getting nominated, there was controversy thank god not everyone is that dumb to notice, but that show is voted by "gaming journalists and influencers", and after that i saw alot of people, inclunding Geoff, talking stuff like "what is indie? is it a felling? Kojima is indie", like, WTF? and people start parroting this, with stuff like FROMSOFTWARE is indie, and Larian which was the talk of the town last year, is insane.
This could cause problems way down the line because people are dumb, there may not be a concensus of what a "indie game" is, i get that, there is too many situations, but people know what a indie game is, and is not a fucking feeling or style like indie rock for fucks sake.
edit: for spacing
They crashed already.
6 years ago everyone was going nuts for indies, nowadays, no one cares. They saturated the market and for every good indie that is innovative we have 9 castlevania/pokemon/zelda/harvest moon clone
Pp😮
OKAY FINE ALGORITHM I’LL WATCH THIS
"Exastrebated"