TechnoBuffalo There's a reason Used Model S's from 12-15 are so cheap, they also have a risk of coming with several issues from the factory and things service centers have/could never fix; could be a very costly investment if you're not under Tesla's direct warranty. One Example being the door handles getting stuck.
TechnoBuffalo There's a reason Used Model S's from 12-15 are so cheap, they also have a risk of coming with several issues from the factory and things service centers have/could never fix; could be a very costly investment if you're not under Tesla's direct warranty. One Example being the door handles getting stuck. Can't afford an S? Then you can't afford to fix a broken S...
ZambonieDude - Actually you are a bit off. There really are no issues on the Model S from 2012 to 2015 that Tesla can't or could never fix. That is entirely incorrect. The most common issue on the very early door handles was a micro switch failure, where the handles wouldn't sense touch if they retracted (they auto retract after about 45 seconds if you approach the car and don't open the door). They re-designed the handles with a better micro switch, and if the handles ever got repaired, they got the newer generation handles that are rock solid and pretty much have zero issues today.
Actually it wasn't his lawyers that killed that idea. The Model E name is owned by Ford, and Ford was being childish and petty, and despite them never intending to use it, they didn't wan't to license it to Tesla.
1980: If you lose your wallet you lose your cash 2000: If you lose your wallet you lose your cash and your credit cards 2018: If you lose your wallet, you lose cash, credit cards and your car
In those other years, if you lost your keys, you potentially lost your car. There was no easy way for the dealer to stop the car from working with a stolen key short of changing the ignition lock, all the door locks and the trunk lock. If you lose your phone, the lost phone can be deactivated from the car. If you lose your wallet, chances are that nobody would find the card or know what it is, but the worst case scenario is that they know that it's for somebody's Tesla. I am not in the habit of losing my wallet, and it's unlikely that if a stranger found it, that person would try to steal my car. But the worst case scenario is that you have Tesla get you new card keys.
2012: If you lose your phone then you lose your pictures and data. 2019: If you lose your phone then you lose your data, banking details, cards, passwords, text messages, cars. 2029: If you lose your phone then yOu lOsE uR lIfE
At 8:20 you said the only way to increase or lower the speed while driving in autopilot is the touchscreen. That's not true, you also can use the wheel on the right button on the steering wheel
yeah if the 3 had the S dash (although maybe higher res) I'd be sold.... sadly it doesnt... I dislike having touch screen for everything.. it just.... feels wrong... i know where every major control on my current car is without looking... 3... feels like the screens change too much so have to verify ...
I tried both. It's very clear that they've cut expenses wherever they could with the model 3, because I found it to be about twice as noisy as the model S. I just couldn't take the amount of road noise, so I ended up with a model S. I really like having that extra screen info right in front of me, and I also very much like to have a heated steering wheel since I live in Norway and my fingers get freezing cold during winter. Not to mention the powered hatchback, which is quite a bit more convenient. It's more expensive, but in the end I have no regrets. I think I would be constantly annoyed and miserable due to the noise etc in the model 3. I suppose some people don't mind some noise, but for me it's a big deal. Overall I just found the model S to be way more comfortable. I guess you get what you pay for. :)
I feel the same way. Imo the interior of the model 3 looks great, but I prefer the exterior of the model S (except for the door handles, I do like model 3 door handles)
Model S all the way!...screen is better vertical...not feeling the horizontal. also love the middle screen behind the steering wheel and the 3rd row ! The S has great leg room also I'm 6/2 .....so yeah.
If I had the money, I'd grab a model s. It has a soft spot in my heart that the model 3 just doesn't have. It looks like a cheaper tesla, which is what it is, and I have to say, it's like 70% in beauty in my opinion. I'd wait for the S refresh and lease one. Thinking about it right now bc my lease is almost up on my current car
Jason Donohue I thought i was the only one. Yeah, it looks cheap. Plastic hubcaps on a $50,000 car. In terms of design they went backwards. Waay backwards! Model 3 looks alot like a Citroen C4, from 2004, wich also had a digital central display. Only much smaller. Even a new Jetta looks more beautiful, and has a steering wheel display! I get it. It's highly advanced car. But why they didn't bother to make it a beautiful car? That is just really weird.
Dan _ I know what you mean. But honestly think about it. I was thinking about this last night, Elon Musk is pretty much selling cars for his tech company. Tesla is a tech company making cars. Their first 3 were great, and I see the design they're going for here, with autonomous driving around the corner (more less). But the car can definitely look better.
I wholeheartedly agree that the 3 looks like a cheaper version of the S, which is not a bad thing. It’s a less expensive car. I’m surprised to hear this guy say the S looks outdated because even though the design has been out for several years, it looks way sexier and enticing than the 3. Maybe I’m biased because I took delivery on a Model S late December and it still feels fresh to me and I don’t see that feeling going away anytime soon. If you’re still on the fence, I’d say go with the S because you will get your $7500 tax credit (which I just filed for yesterday). You will miss out on the tax credit and waste time waiting for the Model 3.
Having owned both the 3 and S I find it hilarious how reviewers think having *less* physical control is better. When you get hit with a sudden downpour the last thing you want to be doing is scrolling through a bunch of menus to turn on your wipers to an effective speed... or trying to drive and adjust the air vent/control through the touch screen. The lack of a driver instrument panel , cross traffic and pedestrian alerts, or REAL blind spot monitoring is not a great/cool/innovative thing either... although some of those issues are with the S as well.
Push the button on the end of the turn signal to turn on the wiper if needed. The also turn on automatically when rain is detected. I didn't know that S had blind spot monitoring, or that 3 did not though.
TechnoBuffalo Actually, I like the interior of the Model S. Now, I do agree the material quality isn't the best at its price range. But I am pleased with it and love the way it is desgned. I only wish the headrest of the back seats weren't as tall as they are.
I picked the Model 3 for one reason: I take enough long trips that I really value the 300 mile range. On a Model S, that’s a 100K purchase. On a model 3, I got it for 60K. Absolutely love both cars and incredibly happy with my 3
For me personally I went for the Model S 100d 2019 in the UK the reason being I prefer the comfort of the ride and the fact it is quiter on the motorway.
I tested both. I found the model 3 to be just too noisy. It had about twice as much road noise as the model S. It doesn't have a heated steering wheel, powered hatchback or air suspention, which is quite convenient. Especially if you live in a colder climate like I do. Being able to raise or lower the car, as well as having a heated steering wheel is quite convenient during winter. I also don't like the minimalist dash in the model 3. I like having that extra screen info right in front of me. Especially the zoomed in GPS and autopilot info right in front of you is quite convenient in the model S. in the model 3 all that info is packed into one screen in the center of the dash, and that just makes it slightly harder to make out. I found that it took more of my focus away from the road because everything got more cramped, which made it a bit more difficult to operate. I was considering the model 3, but I ended up with a model S for these reasons. No regrets :)
They filmed this at an old Marine Corps Air Station, in Orange County, California, now bulldozed into a housing development. I lived there for 3 years, and lemme tell you: the weather there is perfect every day and it's beautiful all the time.
Must be weird driving with the speedometer and all the other essentials not right in front of you. Don't like the fit of that screen. It's like the took a computer screen and just randomly stuck it there. Model S all the way!
Love both cars, but bought a Model S for the quieter & smoother ride, liftgate, larger cargo space, dual screens, faster performance, looks(subjective I know), 21” wheels, and more traditional controls/stalks. Considering how amazing these cars are, I’m certain that no matter which Tesla you get, you’ll be happy!
evo lve May I contact you via email to hear more about the car. I’m considering a used p90d over a new model 3 performance. Also how’s the sound system and suspension on both?
Keyur Patel regarding sound system and suspension, I’d recommend playing the same tracks in both cars to see which you prefer as sound is subjective to the listener (personally, I prefer the S Ultra High Fidelity Premium sound); The suspension is more objective, however, the S longer wheelbase yields a smoother ride, and even smoother when coupled with the air suspension (which I love). If you’re more interested in throwing it around, the lighter, smaller 3 is more track ready.. especially the P3. They’re both great cars, so if you haven’t done so, make an appointment at your local Tesla showroom to drive both. Should be easier to decide immediately afterwards. Hope that helps 🙂
I've been considering buying a Tesla for a while. I tested both the model S and the model 3 and I was surprised by how noisy the model 3 is compared to the model S. Perhaps I have sensitive hearing, but the road noise was just unbearable to me. The model 3 had about twice as much noise as the model S! Also, I didn't like not having any info right in front of me. I found the extra information provided right in front of me in the model S to be very convenient. The model 3 doesn't even have a heated steering wheel, which is almost a must for me since I live in Norway, and it gets freezing cold during winter. Having a powered hatchback is also quite a bit more convenient. I ended up with a model S, even though it's quite a bit more expensive. No regrets :)
If money wasnt an issue id go with a up to dste model S, maybe because it has a jaguar and aston sort of vibe to its looks, a dark green or turquoise for it would be nice. Also think the screen is more integrated in the S
I have driven the Model S on several occasions. It’s really a beautiful car and luxurious, it is also large, deceptively so until you sit inside. Yes it is fast but you don’t see S owners generally “ getting on it”. That would be a statement the S owners don’t seem to want to make. The S is too dignified for that. The Model 3 I have owned for the last 2 months and it is definitely a sporty car, dare I say muscle car, it’s hard for me to keep my foot up and I am 65! You can forget the advertised 0-60 times, this is about a 4.5 second 0-60 car and as stated in the video, 0-30 in either car is faster than just about anything on the road. The Model 3 begs to be raced around not something you would likely do in the S. One thing I have noticed in stop light a -go-go, just about everyone looks at the 3 and sees Tesla, because the 3 has not been out long and not everyone is sure it is a 3 but they know it is a Tesla. As a stated , the S does not seem like owners take particular advantage of the power at the stoplight so I am puzzled why almost every car concedes at the stoplight to the 3. Maybe they are just being polite to the old guy.
Most people slow down a little when they get older. Glad you still enjoy acceleration. :) Agree with all of your comments. Model S is a larger, heavier car that is less agile and responsive than Model 3. 1,000 pounds less weight makes a big difference in how Model 3 feels. It's also much more capable on the race track due to the lighter weight and resulting greater energy efficiency. All have excellent suspensions, steering, and extremely low center of gravity due to the battery pack being at the bottom of the car. Due to that, even the large, heavy Model S drives like a much smaller, lighter car. Model 3 makes even better use of that design. Did you know that the Tesla S/X/3 rear suspension is nearly identical to Ferrraris, and very similar to Audis in front? Like Audi, Teslas have a virtual steering axis which makes the communication of what the front tire contact patch is doing much clearer through the steering wheel. It tells you exactly what the front tires are doing. Outstanding suspension designs is part of the reason Teslas drive so well, along with the extremely low center of gravity.
The S is more pure in design, you can really see those designer's line, looks like an Aston. The Model 3 is a bit fat on the roof... The Interior tho... it's amazing I bought the 3 because *money
Tesla technology is advancing so rapidly that you don't want the slow touchscreen, avg. seats, uncool vents that the Model S has. Just think the Model Y comes out in 6 months!
I just got a S P100D, it now has the fast touchscreen (MCU) that the 3 has and a slightly updated interior. I could have ordered either car, I went for another S. The cargo space is double and I can afford it so that was a good chunk of why I bought it.
wouldn't have poked it at all in 7/2018...you got supercharging and the full credit at least the thing is 150k. 1/2 yr old models with 4000 miles on them going for 120k tesla gives away floor models of the p100's for 128k, videos on youtube showing it even, technically 120k as credit is intact i was honestly surprised. thing depreciates about 20% day 1 thing depreciates like mad as its horribly overpriced to start with, 75k more over base for 150 horsepower for that money you'd expect a whole 2nd drive train battery and motor with 200kwh and 900hp....instead you get the 25kwh 20k battery upgrade (which itself is laughably overpriced at 700$/kwh) and 150hp more over 100D thanks to larger motor worth maybe 10k? 30k of upgrades for 75k more, its teslas cash cow and hasn't been touched in nearing 1.5+ years now. not to mention its battery is 4 years? old, refresh will see the newer cell outputting more power, for less money likey 85D 120D P120D not only more kwh but newer cells putting out 800hp+, if the price stays at 150k maybe its a decent value roadster coming at 200k for a true sports car with 200kwh and 1000+hp, you'd actually be getting your monies worth 50k more for 100kwh more battery, a bargain as 100D owners are paying 20k more for 25kwh now. and some 400 more horsepower in a significantly lighter car. a 200k 1000hp+ 600 mile range roadster will make a 150k 650hp 300 mile range S look questionable at best cant think of many cars out there that charge 50k for 150 horsepower more, pretty expensive tuner job
had a bizarre encounter with a model s owner today who was dissing on the M3. so youtube M3 vs MS comparison video and stumbled up on this. thanks for the video! you nailed it. if one doesnt need the space, M3 RWD is hands down the best bang for the buck in the Tesla line-up! sure its missing a few things that could make it even better. but 2k in 2 weeks is a testament to how much fun and joy it brings to drive this beaut !
model s is smoother, faster, and had more storage (double) despite being only slightly longer. I personally like the model s handles way more despite breaking semi often in earlier versions. I was between a new 3 and used model s and I am very happy with choice of s after driving both. my second car is a mini cooper, felt too much like model 3, so I went with the S over 3 for all those reasons. I also really like the mid screen + dash screen vs just center display in the 3. lastly exiting the model s having traditional door handle vs the button. model 3 has had doors breaking using the handle that is only meant to be used when power goes out.. otherwise button to exit doesnt feel intuitive to me or more so passengers who won't intuitively know to push button on door vs pulling the (slightly hidden) handel inside m3
I am considering buying a 2014 Model S w/ autopilot, I am not a big fan of the front grille/fascia/nose cone and replacing it with the refreshed fascia us kinda expensive. Is there any cheaper way to do that in a less expensive?
FYI - 18 inch wheels give a softer ride than 19s, not stiffer. The difference you're feeling is the coil springs on the 3 vs the air suspension on the S, not the wheel size. Still an awesome video though, keep it up!!
The factory tire pressure on the 18s was 45 PSI for efficiency. But that also makes them ride harder. Elon tweeted that 39 PSI in the 18s would ride softer at the cost of a little range. Tesla has already softened the suspension on Model 3 compared to this very early car.
Great video, but I'm not sure the comparison with a 75kwh model S was a true measure of why people buy that car. With a 75kwh battery, the range is going to limit it's use as a full size sedan. So it would be more fair to up this to a 100kwh and then compare the price difference for that so that the two could be compared as they are... equal in use but for different markets perhaps. Good video of both cars though.
1:47 oh my god, that cringy door opening, clearly, you supposed to press with your big finger and grab\then pull with the rest of your hand. How can you mess that up?
The card does work thru a wallet, its just that you have your other credit cards and such that intercept the NFC. Remove all other cards from wallet, and the Tesla card will work while in the wallet.
@Jon Rettinger 8:45 I think they update the processor (I think an the models form 2018 on have an intel Atom dual-core) behind both cars from time to time so the of both cars just like the FSD hardware so it depends on when you've bought the model s
Personally Preferences for each: Model S: Tons of features (esspecially considering Air Suspensions and HEPA) Better High End Performance (Range and Accell) Better Looking Styling Large Interior Smooth, "Land Yacht" ride Great Value on Used Market Model 3: Better Value New and Used Lighter/sportier Better Efficiency More Modern Features Better designed interior (Esspecially with door pockets and armrests)
I'm a single 20 year old male and I just placed my order for a Model S 75D about two weeks ago. I had the chance to order the Performance Model 3, but the S just seems more worth it to me. The S is better in every aspect except 0-60 and range.
I like how the Model S for the hazard light button in. Also, if you get pulled over in the Model 3 for speeding, you can blame it on the speedometer not being in the middle.
Definitely the MS. It looks better, more cargo space, more power and way more range especially now since there is only 100D. Hands down, the MS is the better vehicle for me.
After sitting on a Model 3, I chose a Model S85D CPO! The negative, only AP1, much lower price than an equally equipped M3. With only 12,004 miles, it’s almost like new!
If fit and finish is ANY worse on the Model 3 than my Tesla Model S 100D, no way id get one. Jesus.....I didn't think it could get worse. It's basically a Saturn with electric motors.
Wtf is an "adtache"?? Case?? When you talked about the Model 3 frunk space you said it's about enough room for an adtachay/addtache case.. did I mishear you , or am I out of the loop??
I drove a Model S for three years, mostly loved it, but it was too big for me and my model was pre-autopilot and I really wanted to have a car with at least adaptive cruise-control. My Model 3 (also black) is due for delivery May 15th and I have been scouring UA-cam for more videos while I wait impatiently. I appreciated getting to see a black Model 3 from all different angles. Great video, thanks!
I heartily agree with video about huge differences. I drove the X, S, and 3, 2018 versions. At my age (58) two aspects are paramount-- Noise and ride; S is vastly more refined in both. I also agree that model S interior, including vents, could use refresh, more like Model 3 which is superlatively uncluttered and future-proof. Another comparison, reference. My Mazdaspeed 3, with lighter aftermarket wheels and higher-profile, quiet tires (Continental DWS), is as quiet as the Tesla 3 (I dare say that!). My Mazda doesn't quiver (overshoot, or porpoise) on uneven concrete highway, where Model 3 does. Unique to Model 3 is suspension noise, a "clunk" over bumps-- makes the ride seem worse. No car is best in every aspect, including price. Hard to regret purchasing any of the three Tesla 2018 models. Tesla drivetrain are best passenger car drivetrain, for performance, efficiency, and emissions. A tidbid: Seats folded, makes a bed 6'+ in Model 3 and 6'4"(?) in the S. And to opt away from Model 3 gray wheels to more popular silver, results in a larger diameter which necessitates lower tire profile, placing rims closer and more susceptible to road hazard. Another advantage, Tesla S.
The screen needs to be matte, interior needs work, speedometer and major important information should be in front of the driver not the side. UI of the touch screen needs simplification for less distractions.
Having had a BMW i3 for 3 years I traded it in for a BMW 440i Convertible which I have been driving for the last couple of years. Now with the newly installed photovoltaic panels on the roof of our house with 12.5 kWp I decided to get back to electrical an chose to trade in the Porsche Panamera Turbo with a Tesla Model 3 Performance. And gosh this was a good decision although Teslas lack a lot of sporty drive comfort Porsches have but their technology is just ahead of all other car manufacturers by ages.
Model S is way better in my opinion because it is a lot faster. I wish he would have contrasted the faster model 3 with a faster model S not the slowest one they make.
First the S doesn't look outdated it actually looked better than the 3 with that bubbled rear glass as it hits the trunk. Also if your passengers knees hit that screen they were sitting way up to close or something because that makes no sense.
I would go for the model S and here is why. 1. I don't like the 15 inch touch screen that is universal, that is a huge distraction for me as a driver. 2. I like the split screen on the 17 inch monitor vs the 15 inch portrait view. It eliminates blind spots better. 3. While the space is nice in both cars, I still think the Model S gives a better ride and I don't want to feel every bump on the road. 4. Free refueling is a big draw for me. With a high price tag with the 3, I would not like to add extra money just in charging the car. 270 miles per charge is huge especially since I may only drive the car 30 miles per day. Those are my 3 reasons. I don't need a supped up Model S but a moderate Model S is a good buy for me.
You can't compare the S with the 3. Of course, everyone would pick the S if they could. And I don't think in any shape or form, the little model 3 is making the S look outdated.
Also a mayor reason to go for the S instead of the 3 if you have the money, the S can be bought and driven now. I you are making the choice right now and don't have an early spot in the model 3 build queue, it might be years before you get a model 3. I believe it is something like two years minimum if you order one today. So that's also a pretty big reason to go for the S(or X for that matter).
Is the interior so spartan to keep the car light and aid in range? Bentleys have the best interiors I’ve ever seen, but I’m sure the weight of the materials adds up.
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Most of us will be buying a Tesla model 3 because we can't afford a Model S, not that we can even afford a Model 3 lol
A used Model S goes for about the same as a new Model 3
TechnoBuffalo "used" I'm talking brand new lol
TechnoBuffalo There's a reason Used Model S's from 12-15 are so cheap, they also have a risk of coming with several issues from the factory and things service centers have/could never fix; could be a very costly investment if you're not under Tesla's direct warranty.
One Example being the door handles getting stuck.
TechnoBuffalo There's a reason Used Model S's from 12-15 are so cheap, they also have a risk of coming with several issues from the factory and things service centers have/could never fix; could be a very costly investment if you're not under Tesla's direct warranty.
One Example being the door handles getting stuck.
Can't afford an S?
Then you can't afford to fix a broken S...
ZambonieDude
- Actually you are a bit off. There really are no issues on the Model S from 2012 to 2015 that Tesla can't or could never fix. That is entirely incorrect.
The most common issue on the very early door handles was a micro switch failure, where the handles wouldn't sense touch if they retracted (they auto retract after about 45 seconds if you approach the car and don't open the door).
They re-designed the handles with a better micro switch, and if the handles ever got repaired, they got the newer generation handles that are rock solid and pretty much have zero issues today.
Model S is daddy.
No really, the Model S and Model X had S3X and made the Model 3.
Actually it wasn't his lawyers that killed that idea. The Model E name is owned by Ford, and Ford was being childish and petty, and despite them never intending to use it, they didn't wan't to license it to Tesla.
They will go S3XY and also make the model Y
Yes, Model S is Daddy.
Semi S3XY Rosdster
@@Satialfactory HAHAHAHA
The Model S looks way slicker and sexier! I don't like the rear design on the Model 3.
I was looking for my soulmate.
Based on just looks, yeah.
in real life the rear looks VERY similar, the front is where they are very different.
Budget is the game changer here my friend
My thots exactly! The thing I always remember is you spend more time inside the car than out. But still, the s body type is so damn beautiful
I was thinking the same thing but reversed LOL
1980: If you lose your wallet you lose your cash
2000: If you lose your wallet you lose your cash and your credit cards
2018: If you lose your wallet, you lose cash, credit cards and your car
Nishant Revur not even lol. It’s all on your phone now. Apple Pay, car. Banking.
I don't even carry a wallet anymore. It's all in my phone. CC and DL in my phone case is all I need anymore.
In those other years, if you lost your keys, you potentially lost your car. There was no easy way for the dealer to stop the car from working with a stolen key short of changing the ignition lock, all the door locks and the trunk lock. If you lose your phone, the lost phone can be deactivated from the car. If you lose your wallet, chances are that nobody would find the card or know what it is, but the worst case scenario is that they know that it's for somebody's Tesla. I am not in the habit of losing my wallet, and it's unlikely that if a stranger found it, that person would try to steal my car. But the worst case scenario is that you have Tesla get you new card keys.
2012: If you lose your phone then you lose your pictures and data.
2019: If you lose your phone then you lose your data, banking details, cards, passwords, text messages, cars.
2029: If you lose your phone then yOu lOsE uR lIfE
Its now your apple device
I was expecting a race
Me to
Plenty of other videos showing the race. This was good showing the differences
At 8:20 you said the only way to increase or lower the speed while driving in autopilot is the touchscreen. That's not true, you also can use the wheel on the right button on the steering wheel
I wish Model 3 would integrate the display into the dash like the Model S.
You're gonna be disappointed to know that with the Model S refresh that Tesla is going to have a similar look to the Model 3...
yeah, the display looks like a slapped on tablet.
Agree i hate the big display
yeah if the 3 had the S dash (although maybe higher res) I'd be sold.... sadly it doesnt... I dislike having touch screen for everything.. it just.... feels wrong... i know where every major control on my current car is without looking... 3... feels like the screens change too much so have to verify ...
The model S is better over all, but the model 3 is better for its price.
I tried both. It's very clear that they've cut expenses wherever they could with the model 3, because I found it to be about twice as noisy as the model S. I just couldn't take the amount of road noise, so I ended up with a model S. I really like having that extra screen info right in front of me, and I also very much like to have a heated steering wheel since I live in Norway and my fingers get freezing cold during winter. Not to mention the powered hatchback, which is quite a bit more convenient. It's more expensive, but in the end I have no regrets. I think I would be constantly annoyed and miserable due to the noise etc in the model 3. I suppose some people don't mind some noise, but for me it's a big deal. Overall I just found the model S to be way more comfortable. I guess you get what you pay for. :)
the model s is one of the most unreliable cars.
@@flammikko 2012-2014 ones
Apothecy what source are you getting from?
@@flammikko various forums , reddit, complaints , etc
I really like Model S exterior, it's definitely not dated but Model 3 interior is just amazing. Simple clean minimalistic design.
Model s interior is better though. Model 3 inside has too much traits of bad minimalism (e.g. cost saving-oriented minimalism).
I feel the same way. Imo the interior of the model 3 looks great, but I prefer the exterior of the model S (except for the door handles, I do like model 3 door handles)
Model S exterior with Model 3's Interior
Main issue I feel is the model 3 doesnt have a dashboard so looks a bit empty compared to model s
not anymore
Model S all the way!...screen is better vertical...not feeling the horizontal. also love the middle screen behind the steering wheel and the 3rd row !
The S has great leg room also I'm 6/2 .....so yeah.
If I had the money, I'd grab a model s. It has a soft spot in my heart that the model 3 just doesn't have. It looks like a cheaper tesla, which is what it is, and I have to say, it's like 70% in beauty in my opinion. I'd wait for the S refresh and lease one. Thinking about it right now bc my lease is almost up on my current car
Jason Donohue if I had the money I would buy the model X
Jason Donohue
I thought i was the only one.
Yeah, it looks cheap. Plastic hubcaps on a $50,000 car.
In terms of design they went backwards. Waay backwards! Model 3 looks alot like a Citroen C4, from 2004, wich also had a digital central display. Only much smaller.
Even a new Jetta looks more beautiful, and has a steering wheel display!
I get it. It's highly advanced car. But why they didn't bother to make it a beautiful car?
That is just really weird.
Dan _ I know what you mean. But honestly think about it. I was thinking about this last night, Elon Musk is pretty much selling cars for his tech company. Tesla is a tech company making cars. Their first 3 were great, and I see the design they're going for here, with autonomous driving around the corner (more less). But the car can definitely look better.
Leasing is the most expensive way to own a car...
I wholeheartedly agree that the 3 looks like a cheaper version of the S, which is not a bad thing. It’s a less expensive car. I’m surprised to hear this guy say the S looks outdated because even though the design has been out for several years, it looks way sexier and enticing than the 3. Maybe I’m biased because I took delivery on a Model S late December and it still feels fresh to me and I don’t see that feeling going away anytime soon. If you’re still on the fence, I’d say go with the S because you will get your $7500 tax credit (which I just filed for yesterday). You will miss out on the tax credit and waste time waiting for the Model 3.
Having owned both the 3 and S I find it hilarious how reviewers think having *less* physical control is better. When you get hit with a sudden downpour the last thing you want to be doing is scrolling through a bunch of menus to turn on your wipers to an effective speed... or trying to drive and adjust the air vent/control through the touch screen. The lack of a driver instrument panel , cross traffic and pedestrian alerts, or REAL blind spot monitoring is not a great/cool/innovative thing either... although some of those issues are with the S as well.
Push the button on the end of the turn signal to turn on the wiper if needed. The also turn on automatically when rain is detected. I didn't know that S had blind spot monitoring, or that 3 did not though.
Tesla need to up their interior game especially on the Model S.
I agree. The interior needs a lot of work.
They will. They hired the Volvo interior designer a year or two ago and a refresh will be due soon.
TechnoBuffalo Didnt they already hire a guy from Volvo for this?
I want to see any of these cars do 0-60 in 2.7 seconds. (or with the roadster 1.9)
TechnoBuffalo
Actually, I like the interior of the Model S. Now, I do agree the material quality isn't the best at its price range. But I am pleased with it and love the way it is desgned. I only wish the headrest of the back seats weren't as tall as they are.
I picked the Model 3 for one reason: I take enough long trips that I really value the 300 mile range. On a Model S, that’s a 100K purchase. On a model 3, I got it for 60K. Absolutely love both cars and incredibly happy with my 3
the model s exterior design looks dated? its one of the most modern looking cars i see on the road, it looks more modern than every car with a grill
He can have an opinion, and so can you
For me personally I went for the
Model S 100d 2019 in the UK the reason being I prefer the comfort of the ride and the fact it is quiter on the motorway.
I would go for the Model S because of the size
Model S is a very large car. I would go with Model 3 because of the size. Also Model 3 is far more agile and efficient.
Hamzah Hashmi, my S replaced my S6 Wagon, it’s much bigger inside than the Audi. Skiing ⛷ it’s great
I tested both. I found the model 3 to be just too noisy. It had about twice as much road noise as the model S. It doesn't have a heated steering wheel, powered hatchback or air suspention, which is quite convenient. Especially if you live in a colder climate like I do. Being able to raise or lower the car, as well as having a heated steering wheel is quite convenient during winter. I also don't like the minimalist dash in the model 3. I like having that extra screen info right in front of me. Especially the zoomed in GPS and autopilot info right in front of you is quite convenient in the model S. in the model 3 all that info is packed into one screen in the center of the dash, and that just makes it slightly harder to make out. I found that it took more of my focus away from the road because everything got more cramped, which made it a bit more difficult to operate. I was considering the model 3, but I ended up with a model S for these reasons. No regrets :)
Why do i watch this knowing i will never afford these csrs
Motivation!
Zoren Connor keep the dream alive man
Never say never
if you really want, you can do it
Zoren Connor don't say never... All you need is a positive mindset good money management an a great support base meaning a great spouse ....
Cinematic video,pictures looks gorgeous
They filmed this at an old Marine Corps Air Station, in Orange County, California, now bulldozed into a housing development. I lived there for 3 years, and lemme tell you: the weather there is perfect every day and it's beautiful all the time.
I still prefer the Model S styling. Especially the Air intake grille.
Admiral T'mas thats gone on the latest model s.. completely smooth front end, no grill.
Must be weird driving with the speedometer and all the other essentials not right in front of you. Don't like the fit of that screen. It's like the took a computer screen and just randomly stuck it there. Model S all the way!
Finally someone talked about car seat room! Ty
Love both cars, but bought a Model S for the quieter & smoother ride, liftgate, larger cargo space, dual screens, faster performance, looks(subjective I know), 21” wheels, and more traditional controls/stalks. Considering how amazing these cars are, I’m certain that no matter which Tesla you get, you’ll be happy!
evo lve May I contact you via email to hear more about the car. I’m considering a used p90d over a new model 3 performance. Also how’s the sound system and suspension on both?
Keyur Patel regarding sound system and suspension, I’d recommend playing the same tracks in both cars to see which you prefer as sound is subjective to the listener (personally, I prefer the S Ultra High Fidelity Premium sound); The suspension is more objective, however, the S longer wheelbase yields a smoother ride, and even smoother when coupled with the air suspension (which I love). If you’re more interested in throwing it around, the lighter, smaller 3 is more track ready.. especially the P3. They’re both great cars, so if you haven’t done so, make an appointment at your local Tesla showroom to drive both. Should be easier to decide immediately afterwards. Hope that helps 🙂
I've been considering buying a Tesla for a while. I tested both the model S and the model 3 and I was surprised by how noisy the model 3 is compared to the model S. Perhaps I have sensitive hearing, but the road noise was just unbearable to me. The model 3 had about twice as much noise as the model S!
Also, I didn't like not having any info right in front of me. I found the extra information provided right in front of me in the model S to be very convenient. The model 3 doesn't even have a heated steering wheel, which is almost a must for me since I live in Norway, and it gets freezing cold during winter. Having a powered hatchback is also quite a bit more convenient. I ended up with a model S, even though it's quite a bit more expensive. No regrets :)
If money wasnt an issue id go with a up to dste model S, maybe because it has a jaguar and aston sort of vibe to its looks, a dark green or turquoise for it would be nice.
Also think the screen is more integrated in the S
Going to go out on a limb and say your license plate that's blurred out says JN4LKRS. LOL
LOL...i kinda wish.
Someone explain this joke to me 😕
Woodard2006 the original name of the channel
Man i remember those days.
Part of my childhood right there
Most customers know which car they would buy. They are different cars not intended for the same people.
I have driven the Model S on several occasions. It’s really a beautiful car and luxurious, it is also large, deceptively so until you sit inside. Yes it is fast but you don’t see S owners generally “ getting on it”. That would be a statement the S owners don’t seem to want to make. The S is too dignified for that. The Model 3 I have owned for the last 2 months and it is definitely a sporty car, dare I say muscle car, it’s hard for me to keep my foot up and I am 65! You can forget the advertised 0-60 times, this is about a 4.5 second 0-60 car and as stated in the video, 0-30 in either car is faster than just about anything on the road. The Model 3 begs to be raced around not something you would likely do in the S. One thing I have noticed in stop light a -go-go, just about everyone looks at the 3 and sees Tesla, because the 3 has not been out long and not everyone is sure it is a 3 but they know it is a Tesla. As a stated , the S does not seem like owners take particular advantage of the power at the stoplight so I am puzzled why almost every car concedes at the stoplight to the 3. Maybe they are just being polite to the old guy.
Most people slow down a little when they get older. Glad you still enjoy acceleration. :)
Agree with all of your comments. Model S is a larger, heavier car that is less agile and responsive than Model 3. 1,000 pounds less weight makes a big difference in how Model 3 feels. It's also much more capable on the race track due to the lighter weight and resulting greater energy efficiency.
All have excellent suspensions, steering, and extremely low center of gravity due to the battery pack being at the bottom of the car. Due to that, even the large, heavy Model S drives like a much smaller, lighter car. Model 3 makes even better use of that design.
Did you know that the Tesla S/X/3 rear suspension is nearly identical to Ferrraris, and very similar to Audis in front? Like Audi, Teslas have a virtual steering axis which makes the communication of what the front tire contact patch is doing much clearer through the steering wheel. It tells you exactly what the front tires are doing. Outstanding suspension designs is part of the reason Teslas drive so well, along with the extremely low center of gravity.
All you'll see is the rear end of my P90D accelerating away at every single red light and on ramp/off ramp.
@@InSaN3ViSioN same here, except P90DL ;D
The S is more pure in design, you can really see those designer's line, looks like an Aston.
The Model 3 is a bit fat on the roof... The Interior tho... it's amazing
I bought the 3 because *money
Going for model 3. I’d Rather a new smaller car more up to date than the old used model S for the same price as an optioned up model 3.
Same. Model 3 is smaller, lighter, more efficient, more modern, newer and nearly half the price.
Yea I agree
I like that model 3 beautiful car..
It actually looks much better in person than in pictures/videos.
It's not just me!!! YAY!
Taking delivery of a 2015 MS P85D Deep Blue, loaded with 14,000 K mi.
Totally Stoked! I plan on putting in my will, earmarked for my son!
The AWD Performance variant of the Model 3 has to be something exciting. Thinking about what can be the sensation of the Ludicrous Mode in that model
No ludicrous in Model 3 but I read in the performance they are testing a track mode.
too bad its gona cost like 80-90k
Damn I really want the Tesla model s so badly!!!!!! :D
now u can. go on Tesla.com and check out their used inventory. its so cheap these days
its really beautiful but very very expensive
Probably the best video ive seen on a model 3. Accurate, informative but most importantly still honest . Good job
Thank you!
The model 3 will always have a soft spot in my heart. My favorite car
Yo! You guys have always made great content... but wtf!? The quality has been insane over the past 6 months. Keep up the good work!
Mark,Matt, and Berto FTW
Oddly enough, Tesla haven't cannibalised themselves. Sales of the model S and X went up.
Not in the market for a Tesla anytime soon, but this was fun to watch.
Tesla technology is advancing so rapidly that you don't want the slow touchscreen, avg. seats, uncool vents that the Model S has. Just think the Model Y comes out in 6 months!
1:49 Use your thumb, not your fingers
My dream car is the model 3 but I wish you could choose between the wood trim and a black trim and chrome delete.
Nice job! I'm getting the Model 3 first production - cannot wait!
Model S > 3 all the way
If u have the money which one would u go with .. i8 .. m4 .. model s .. c63 .. gtr
I just got a S P100D, it now has the fast touchscreen (MCU) that the 3 has and a slightly updated interior. I could have ordered either car, I went for another S. The cargo space is double and I can afford it so that was a good chunk of why I bought it.
InternetDude Honestly I wonder what the hell I've done with my life. I can only afford a 2nd hand Mini Cooper S.
wouldn't have poked it at all in 7/2018...you got supercharging and the full credit at least
the thing is 150k. 1/2 yr old models with 4000 miles on them going for 120k
tesla gives away floor models of the p100's for 128k, videos on youtube showing it even, technically 120k as credit is intact
i was honestly surprised. thing depreciates about 20% day 1
thing depreciates like mad as its horribly overpriced to start with, 75k more over base for 150 horsepower
for that money you'd expect a whole 2nd drive train battery and motor with 200kwh and 900hp....instead you get the 25kwh 20k battery upgrade (which itself is laughably overpriced at 700$/kwh) and 150hp more over 100D thanks to larger motor worth maybe 10k?
30k of upgrades for 75k more, its teslas cash cow and hasn't been touched in nearing 1.5+ years now.
not to mention its battery is 4 years? old, refresh will see the newer cell outputting more power, for less money
likey 85D 120D P120D not only more kwh but newer cells putting out 800hp+, if the price stays at 150k maybe its a decent value
roadster coming at 200k for a true sports car with 200kwh and 1000+hp, you'd actually be getting your monies worth
50k more for 100kwh more battery, a bargain as 100D owners are paying 20k more for 25kwh now. and some 400 more horsepower in a significantly lighter car.
a 200k 1000hp+ 600 mile range roadster will make a 150k 650hp 300 mile range S look questionable at best
cant think of many cars out there that charge 50k for 150 horsepower more, pretty expensive tuner job
had a bizarre encounter with a model s owner today who was dissing on the M3. so youtube M3 vs MS comparison video and stumbled up on this.
thanks for the video! you nailed it. if one doesnt need the space, M3 RWD is hands down the best bang for the buck in the Tesla line-up!
sure its missing a few things that could make it even better. but 2k in 2 weeks is a testament to how much fun and joy it brings to drive this beaut !
model s is smoother, faster, and had more storage (double) despite being only slightly longer. I personally like the model s handles way more despite breaking semi often in earlier versions. I was between a new 3 and used model s and I am very happy with choice of s after driving both. my second car is a mini cooper, felt too much like model 3, so I went with the S over 3 for all those reasons. I also really like the mid screen + dash screen vs just center display in the 3. lastly exiting the model s having traditional door handle vs the button. model 3 has had doors breaking using the handle that is only meant to be used when power goes out.. otherwise button to exit doesnt feel intuitive to me or more so passengers who won't intuitively know to push button on door vs pulling the (slightly hidden) handel inside m3
Iv got a tesla model 3 For the past 2 yrs and want to try out something different so im not sure if i should Get the Tesla Model S Or Y
I am considering buying a 2014 Model S w/ autopilot, I am not a big fan of the front grille/fascia/nose cone and replacing it with the refreshed fascia us kinda expensive. Is there any cheaper way to do that in a less expensive?
The card will work through a wallet. I keep it in a zippered compartment in the billfold section so that it's against the outside wall of the wallet.
When I heard you talk about Turo, I only knew one thing...
You're Doug DeMuro in disguise.
You're a good dad. Always considering family in the purchase decision.
FYI - 18 inch wheels give a softer ride than 19s, not stiffer. The difference you're feeling is the coil springs on the 3 vs the air suspension on the S, not the wheel size. Still an awesome video though, keep it up!!
The factory tire pressure on the 18s was 45 PSI for efficiency. But that also makes them ride harder. Elon tweeted that 39 PSI in the 18s would ride softer at the cost of a little range.
Tesla has already softened the suspension on Model 3 compared to this very early car.
Great video, but I'm not sure the comparison with a 75kwh model S was a true measure of why people buy that car.
With a 75kwh battery, the range is going to limit it's use as a full size sedan. So it would be more fair to up this to a 100kwh and then compare the price difference for that so that the two could be compared as they are... equal in use but for different markets perhaps.
Good video of both cars though.
When it comes to looks, I’d say that Model S beats Model 3 by a landslide, but I’d say practicality wise Model 3 is better
Kinda biased against the model 3 because he owned the model s and tried to make it look better.
1:47 oh my god, that cringy door opening, clearly, you supposed to press with your big finger and grab\then pull with the rest of your hand. How can you mess that up?
lol wut
The card does work thru a wallet, its just that you have your other credit cards and such that intercept the NFC. Remove all other cards from wallet, and the Tesla card will work while in the wallet.
Maybe it was my wallet but I tried.
So remove all other cards just to use it through your wallet? What a waste
you don't have to remove other cards, but the wallet itself could be the issue
I see this at WeWork all the time. Half the people's NFC entry card works in their wallet. For the other half it doesn't work.
Or cut out the NFC chip and put it in a bracelet.
You could also implant the NFC chip in your skin, theoretically
how did the "bump" the screem getting out of the car?
Is the monitor distracting when driving at night?
Brad Wildey I think it changes the brightness automatically.
@Jon Rettinger 8:45 I think they update the processor (I think an the models form 2018 on have an intel Atom dual-core) behind both cars from time to time so the of both cars just like the FSD hardware so it depends on when you've bought the model s
Used Model S P85D vs Model 3 Performance Maxed.
Toughest choice! Especially with the updates coming out for autopilot on the model 3.
Dan Ross I’m on the same boat! But with a p90d!
P85D here, on trips Model s, around town Model 3
Model 3: 20-30
Model S: 30-50
Personally Preferences for each:
Model S:
Tons of features (esspecially considering Air Suspensions and HEPA)
Better High End Performance (Range and Accell)
Better Looking Styling
Large Interior
Smooth, "Land Yacht" ride
Great Value on Used Market
Model 3:
Better Value New and Used
Lighter/sportier
Better Efficiency
More Modern Features
Better designed interior (Esspecially with door pockets and armrests)
I want a model s exterior with model 3 interior. Perfect
I'm a single 20 year old male and I just placed my order for a Model S 75D about two weeks ago. I had the chance to order the Performance Model 3, but the S just seems more worth it to me. The S is better in every aspect except 0-60 and range.
Miles Smith what do you do for a living, if I may ask?
I like how the Model S for the hazard light button in. Also, if you get pulled over in the Model 3 for speeding, you can blame it on the speedometer not being in the middle.
Got my Model 3 December 1st and I absolutely love it! 58k. It's sleek, sexy, and fast, worth every penny
Definitely the MS. It looks better, more cargo space, more power and way more range especially now since there is only 100D. Hands down, the MS is the better vehicle for me.
Just as a heads up we are way past 2000 built my VIN ends in 49xx
Nice one TB, I choose the Model S!
Controlling everything thru the tablet is a turn off. How about a gauge and button pack? I'd pay more to get some more traditional controls in the 3.
After sitting on a Model 3, I chose a Model S85D CPO! The negative, only AP1, much lower price than an equally equipped M3. With only 12,004 miles, it’s almost like new!
I am obsessed with the model s 😍🤤
If fit and finish is ANY worse on the Model 3 than my Tesla Model S 100D, no way id get one. Jesus.....I didn't think it could get worse. It's basically a Saturn with electric motors.
Wtf is an "adtache"?? Case?? When you talked about the Model 3 frunk space you said it's about enough room for an adtachay/addtache case.. did I mishear you , or am I out of the loop??
It's another way to say Briefcase
I have a model s p90d with ludicrous mode. The acceleration still shuns me to this day.
Dope Model 3, especially in the All Black color way!! Dope Stuff Jon!!
I was surprised how much I liked the black on black look
his channel is called technobuffalo
TechnoBuffalo it’s sick
thanks for this video I configured mine all black after seeing this
I drove a Model S for three years, mostly loved it, but it was too big for me and my model was pre-autopilot and I really wanted to have a car with at least adaptive cruise-control.
My Model 3 (also black) is due for delivery May 15th and I have been scouring UA-cam for more videos while I wait impatiently. I appreciated getting to see a black Model 3 from all different angles. Great video, thanks!
This video was 🔥🔥🔥 you guys did fantastic!
I heartily agree with video about huge differences. I drove the X, S, and 3, 2018 versions. At my age (58) two aspects are paramount-- Noise and ride; S is vastly more refined in both. I also agree that model S interior, including vents, could use refresh, more like Model 3 which is superlatively uncluttered and future-proof. Another comparison, reference. My Mazdaspeed 3, with lighter aftermarket wheels and higher-profile, quiet tires (Continental DWS), is as quiet as the Tesla 3 (I dare say that!). My Mazda doesn't quiver (overshoot, or porpoise) on uneven concrete highway, where Model 3 does. Unique to Model 3 is suspension noise, a "clunk" over bumps-- makes the ride seem worse. No car is best in every aspect, including price. Hard to regret purchasing any of the three Tesla 2018 models. Tesla drivetrain are best passenger car drivetrain, for performance, efficiency, and emissions. A tidbid: Seats folded, makes a bed 6'+ in Model 3 and 6'4"(?) in the S. And to opt away from Model 3 gray wheels to more popular silver, results in a larger diameter which necessitates lower tire profile, placing rims closer and more susceptible to road hazard. Another advantage, Tesla S.
The screen needs to be matte, interior needs work, speedometer and major important information should be in front of the driver not the side. UI of the touch screen needs simplification for less distractions.
Having had a BMW i3 for 3 years I traded it in for a BMW 440i Convertible which I have been driving for the last couple of years. Now with the newly installed photovoltaic panels on the roof of our house with 12.5 kWp I decided to get back to electrical an chose to trade in the Porsche Panamera Turbo with a Tesla Model 3 Performance. And gosh this was a good decision although Teslas lack a lot of sporty drive comfort Porsches have but their technology is just ahead of all other car manufacturers by ages.
Guys this is super fire.
🙏
S is Better. That is why it costs more
Was it a battle? Or just comparison... I kept pressing forward ... looking for a drag
Model S is way better in my opinion because it is a lot faster. I wish he would have contrasted the faster model 3 with a faster model S not the slowest one they make.
Hello Great Park... I was just watching and thinking the backdrop looked familiar until I realized this was indeed right in my back yard too!
First the S doesn't look outdated it actually looked better than the 3 with that bubbled rear glass as it hits the trunk. Also if your passengers knees hit that screen they were sitting way up to close or something because that makes no sense.
i make ab 800 a month im 15 thinking ab model S for my first car, opinions?
Sheepster Bro how do you make 800 in a month helppp😩
hannah I bring home around $300/week. Times that by 4 weeks, that’s about $1,200 a month. That’s with $10.25/hr full time btw.
I thought Model S 75D is so noisy from the side windows. If the model 3 is even noisier, that is dissappointing.
I would go for the model S and here is why.
1. I don't like the 15 inch touch screen that is universal, that is a huge distraction for me as a driver.
2. I like the split screen on the 17 inch monitor vs the 15 inch portrait view. It eliminates blind spots better.
3. While the space is nice in both cars, I still think the Model S gives a better ride and I don't want to feel every bump on the road.
4. Free refueling is a big draw for me. With a high price tag with the 3, I would not like to add extra money just in charging the car. 270 miles per charge is huge especially since I may only drive the car 30 miles per day.
Those are my 3 reasons. I don't need a supped up Model S but a moderate Model S is a good buy for me.
Ryooken new purchases don’t come with unlimited supercharging, just 1 year worth. Hopefully that will change again tho
You can't compare the S with the 3. Of course, everyone would pick the S if they could. And I don't think in any shape or form, the little model 3 is making the S look outdated.
Also a mayor reason to go for the S instead of the 3 if you have the money, the S can be bought and driven now. I you are making the choice right now and don't have an early spot in the model 3 build queue, it might be years before you get a model 3. I believe it is something like two years minimum if you order one today. So that's also a pretty big reason to go for the S(or X for that matter).
Well, this was 3 months ago, but today, they said it would be 6 to 9 months if you order one today.
Is the interior so spartan to keep the car light and aid in range? Bentleys have the best interiors I’ve ever seen, but I’m sure the weight of the materials adds up.
Good background music. Tesla. Thumbs up!
Right steering wheel button controls speed and car length while in auto pilot so no need to use touch screen.
I know this video was uploaded a few days ago but you said the VINs are in the 2000s now and I just saw one in the mid 8000s yesterday.
Cole Bender There are ones in the 50 000s iirc, they are ramping up exponentially right now.