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Solid State Logic | SSL | UC-1 Advanced Plugin Controller | PT 4 My Likes & Dislikes
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2022
- In this video, I'm reviewing the Solid State Logic SSL UC-1 Plugin Controller. I'll be talking about the plugin controller's features, my likes and dislikes, and give you my overall verdict.
If you're looking for a plugin controller that will give you the power to control your mixes precisely, then the SSL UC-1 Plugin Controller is the perfect choice for you! I'll be reviewing the controller and discussing its features and my thoughts on it, so be sure to watch this video to find out more!
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Everyone keeps talking about it only using 3 plugins on the uc1. I mean, isn't that the point?? To get rid of all your money wasted plugins, turn the monitor off and your ear up and mix simple. Hey I love it.. I have wasted years and thousands looking for easy magic instead of learning and practicing strong fundemental mixing patterns and using 5 or 6 plugins along the way instead of 30. I don't know. Just my thoughts
That is an excellent point. You are right, less choices and simplify.
Exactly! I recently took out an SSL subscription and boom! Immediately stripping back all the dumb plugins across my tracks and just running with the handful of high quality, SSL set had made a huge difference. Workflow and mix so much better.
Next move is to save for this and the UF1
When I first got into music production I got plug-in crazy. Now I mostly use the plug-ins that come with my DAW with a few third party plugins. I’m excited about this channel strip. Keep it simple.
I agree with you on the output gain on the controller, it’s definitely needed. I kinda like that on 360 that it doesn’t let you see a reading on the knobs to display what you’re doing because in a way it helps with mixing with your ears and if you want an accurate reading you can still hover the mouse on the controls. It’s a great piece and I love the channel strips and bus comp they’re a staple in my workflow.
Thanks for watching
Great video , I have the UF8 and will order the UC1 today , your unbiased presentation convinced me , thx
Congrats! Hope you used my SW link? :)
This a entire series is great. My UF8 is arriving tomorrow and now I’m convinced the UF1 and the UC1 will be on there way with the next couple of paychecks.
Fantastic! Have fun with them!
If someone from SSL is watching this then first of all thank you for taking the risk on this product, I love it. People buying it aren’t simply buying a plugin controller they are buying into a natural mixing platform. A few suggestions , The Fine button has a hold function and a momentary function perhaps allow the user to select an alternate mode that uses the fine button as a shift button. Hold shift (Fine) and turn another knob to use the width control, pan control etc. The magnifying glass button could be used to toggle a simple overlay of digital values on the 360 software, I’m sure Dave would love that. Showing and hiding the bus compressor isn’t very useful. Also IMHO it’s very important that you allow for more bus compressors. I believe the limit in the 360 software is 8. Maybe I’m mad but I do put one on every bus :)
All really good suggestions.
“Uncle Dave”..,You are so far ahead of those who offer tutorials, Sir! Excellent video series, and looking fwd to the UF-8 review. Much appreciated. Greetings from Miami, FL!👏👍
Hey, thank you very much! I try to be as honest as possible and show you what matter most about these products.
Another great video ❤. I was given a uc1 for my birthday…..always loved (from duende days) the ssl channel strip and love the way this device and updated plugins work! Must be mentioned that 6 months of full subscription to the ssl plugins including the fusion ones etc adds £70 of value to the uc1 …as well as the perpetual licences to channel strip and bus comp. Thanks again
Thank you for your support!
A small workaroubd in Studio One to see Frequenzies and dB is to open the settings button, as you mentioned we cannot see the values of the knobs on the screen. 😊
Thanks for the tip
First, thank you uncle Dave for you honest review.
In my area I worked primarily on an Otari Concept 1 and Elite series consoles.
When I Transitioned to to using a computer to multitrack, the waves SSL channel strip, and buss compressor was my primary plug in. After a few years I purchased my uad system and I started using thier SSL versions. Fast forward to the native bundle and UC1 release, I couldn't be happier. I agree with you on all parts. With the recent update the scrolling issue is a minor irritation, until I remember to stop looking at the screen, listen and focus on the UC1 and my near fields. I enjoy PLAYING, skipping and frolicking in my fields of frequencies. The UC1 is a true joy to work on.
Thanks Ron for watching the video and for your input! Have a great holiday!
Totally agree with everything you've said, right now because of you I'm a new SSL subscription member and I will get the UC-1 for sure. The plug-in sounds fantastic, thanks
Awesome! Thank you!
@15:11 I whish for that too, also the Zoom in the 350. .. . and all you said after, totally agree.
GREAT Thourough review 👍 👍 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Unc for another amazing series. im in the market for a new controller and ive been watching all of these. super helpful. and SSL if ur readint these comments... I see all the pieces coming together. Please give us a mid format control surface (maybe like the size of the Matrix) with maybe 16 faders, and UC1 style channel strip on each channel. and the bus controller in the center section.. And if you really wanna trigger some gear lust, add monitor control and talkback. and when you do, send me one free for the idea lol
Thanks for watching!
Thanks uncle Dave I just order one on reverb for a killer price. Cannot wait to get my hands on it. I intend to get the UF8 to pair them up.
Cool. they just made some updates to the 360 software that I am looking forward to checking out
Great video Dave! It would be fantastic if SSL did a tie in with someone like IK Multimedia so it was pre-mapped to all their plugins, that would make it really powerful. 😎
Very interesting idea!
I want to love the SSL UC1 but I’m going to wait until I see it control more than 3 plugins. I’m with you that the Softube controller is dated and that alone is why I haven’t bought it even though I have UAD plugins. I WANT the ssl to do that part. Until then neither will be added and I’ll stick with mouse and keyboard. Great series of videos!! Thank you so much for helping me with a $1000 decision. Oh btw… I use the ssl channel strip 2 and buss compressor 2 on all my mixes and channels so I’m so sad that at a $1000 this doesn’t so much what Softube does :(
I think that SSL will eventually come out with a new version, maybe the UC-2? and hopefully they will address some of the issues.
Hi Dave. Shout out from Paris, watching your channel. Great videos as usual. About the EQ values not showing on the 360 console I agree. Personally I look up the values directly from the UC1 screen as I tweak the knobs. Of course you have to bow your head but I found myself getting used to it. No need to look at the console and no need to use the mouse.
Thank you for watching!
to control the levels with the controller you must press the back arrow button next to the confirm button. then scroll with the bus comp knob. then click the knob to access each value.
Yes, Some others have told me about this, thanks!
Thank you for the video
Thank you so much! I appreciate it
Thanks for the series Dave! The UC1 is on sale. 100 buck off. My trigger finger is getting itchy. I had console 1 and I like the concept but the UAD function was definitely wonky. I use the Avid S3 with protools which you can customize knobs for plugins BUT I really like having parameters being the same. Decisions...............
Huuuuum, I hear you. All these controllers have their good and bad points.It's all a matter of workflow. No one has made a "perfect" controller yet!
The uc-1 could also use 1 motorized mix fader (👎🏽not rotary knob) for those who don’t wanna dive into deep with the ssl eco system on purchasing a uf8. Mix section would’ve made it perfect
Great idea!
I have been going back and forth about this one... I love the integration and the ergonomics. The 360 is almost like another level to your DAW, but it isn't all aesthetics (BTW, it looks GORGEOUS) and the one to one control environment is amazing. Looks like I'm saving up! Thanx Unc Dave!!!
Thank you Juan!!
Thanks brother just ordered mine for my console. Hey i Hope there is a phase button this thing, That would suck !! Great video Daves your uncle !!!
Congrats!
You’re great demo-ing these products. No bs. Right to the point!
Where are you located? NY? NJ? Jewish or Italian?
Thank you
Is it possible to select a track by mouse and the uc1 will follow to the inserted (lets say native channel strip) plugin on that track? I mean without opening the plugin window?
Not that I am aware of
Nice summary Dave. I have used both UC1 and Console 1 are they are great products. I stuck with UC1 because I like SSL strips. For people who like to use a variety of channel strips Softube Console 1 is the way to go.
Agreed! Thanks Jim!
Softube Console 1 is not so great for the same reason with the additional issue of the unit itself not having any numerical indication of where I am and how much level or the lack of any such LCD at all! On my old ass HUI, I can see exactly where I am in my session with out looking at the screen! I can turn the screen off. with the Console one I can do this! Also the Console one is ugly and chunky it has to much space around! Then you add the fader unit to it and that also looks kinda ugly and cheap! These are just my opinons!
Hey man, certain new functions you can contol with the control knob on the right of the screen. Input trim is controlable through that for example and few more
Thanks for watching!
Another great video review. Thanks Uncle Dave!
Thanks again!
You can see the frequency values on the UC1 when you are turning the knobs.
yes, i believe so
I wish there was an option button that closed the top and bottom sections of the 360 desk so that you were left with the full eq/comp section on view to quicken the workflow. Having to scroll the main section of the desk is a real bummer! ☹
That is a good idea
It will be interesting to see if any of your issues with the UC-1 will be solved by the UF-8. I have the UC-1 and the Faderport 8. I'm not planning on getting the UF-8 because I think the Faderport will do the same things well. The only problem I have is that I can't get the 4K B plugin to show up in Studio One. It shows up in iLok manager, but not in the DAW. I may need to fool around with the locations that Studio One is looking for plugins. Good review. I'm looking forward to the UF-8/UC-1 combination videos.
I did a LIVE stream with both of the units together.
ua-cam.com/video/PCQK0wdQKx4/v-deo.html
Numeric values when turning knobs shows in UC1 display window.
Thanks!
I have the UC1, but i don't master it yet. Especially the gate expander that I don't see the purpose, I don't understand how and why to use it. Furthermore I have analog compressors and they don't react or sound like the UC1. My next purchase would be the UF8, but I need to spare for now. I'm on Cubase Pro 12
Thank you very much for watching!
I have Apple Sudio 27" inch display and if I remove the transport control in 360 I can see the entire channel.
I agree that this is better than C1 which I have had since 2014 and still have. The knob on the UC1 are way better both visually (colour coted) and the feel (C1 knobs are to big and tight).
I tried that as well and still had to scroll. I think I have the font too large of a setting.
It’s time for them to come out with an ssl desk that is an only a controller. Maybe like the Origin but just a controller with the look and feel. Avid/digi has done it so why not. Completely in the box I think most studios would have one. I also think every classic piece of hardware should have a controller. La2a/1176/ pulltec so on. A controller that fills the slots doesn’t need any depth just the faceplate and usb. It’s coming.
That desk will cost over $100K just like the Avid stuff. Thats why they dont make it, in my opinion. There isn't a market for it.
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I think there’s definitely a market for it. It’s already here they’re just selling it in components. UF8 and UCF/ Console 1 & faderport 1. They sell us a channel strip control then 8 faders. Where have you banking and selecting one channel at a time. Just give us the full board. I believe within the next 5 to 7 years they’ll be a full software controller version of some classic board. I believe ssl is setting up for it with its 360 software.
Suggestion to SSL for the 360 software! First: set an auto gain (or auto trim) to offset the output gain automatically that you can enabled or disabled at your need so you don't have to do it with your mouse. Second: set an auto scroll that automattically follow the part of the channel strip of the knobs that is turned, so there's no need for a magnifier as you see everything you re doing in real time without the need to scroll with your keyboard keys or touching anything for those that have'nt a 4k monitor. Third: place a big rectangle on the upper dash (at the left of the bars/beats smpte lights) to show every numeric values of the turned knobs (or 2 rectangles if you turned 2 knobs at the same time) (i say ''big rectangles'' thinking of people that don't have a great eye view)... (and maybe make it compatible with more daw like Adobe Audition/Premiere, Samplitude, Cakewalk ect..) Great controller btw! Thank You Uncle Dave for that great video series.
Great tips! Thanks
Just a heads up...The numeric values for the knobs inside the 360 are show on the UC1 screen on the controller.
Yes, I know that, thanks!
Please do a video about the new Console 1 MKIII.
I am already in discussion with Softube. coming in the December time frame
Thank you so much for your reply!
Hey, loved this series. Sorry I’m so late to it lol. Was to ask anyone if they have found a way to open/close the plug-in from the controller. I’ve had one for over a year and a half now and love love love but I do wish you could assign a button for these things. Other than that. It’s a really good piece of gear for the hybrid producers. Oh also, wish there was an on/off button. I have mine plugged into a switch that I can turn of when I’m just answering email and what not. Jussayin:)
Not that I know of. Maybe someone else here has the solution?
Thanks! Would you recommend this gear in combination with the Presonus Faderport 16? Greetz from Berlin
Yes, absolutely
**New subscriber here, great video** I've had my units over a year, after not really using them as intended I recently started to try and learn UC1 and UF8 with my DAW Logic Pro. I must be honest, it's slowing me down..... Unless the SSL Chanel strip is in plugin slot 1 the entire process of integration between both hardware units and mixing in Logic is a nightmare. I am experimenting with Hornet gain structure plug in and UA tape plugins in slots 1 & 2 prior to the, 'desk' SSL channel... I'd also like to have distortion and a 'flavour' non SSL compressor plugins prior to SSL which puts SSL channel strip into slot 5 it throws the hardware units into chaos. 😢
yep, it's all about workflow. These controllers are not for everyone and unless you are dedicated to using the SSL plugins, then these are not worth having.
The uc1 is meant to be paired with the uf8 to keep it simple I think they made the right choice and they are probably working on uc2.
Agreed!
Subscribed!! Great channel
Thanks for the sub!
Hi Dave, I just setup my UC1 last night and I noticed right away my knobs have to be turned several times around to go from one side to another on the plugin. I notice this is not the case when you are showing the response time with your UC1. So, any ideas on how and why? Thanks, Dennis
no idea. Sorry
Hi and thanks for responding. After I sent that message i watched your live stream of the Uc1 and the UF8 working together. Not to be insulting , but I thought I saw you doing the same on the UC1. Just to clarify my question. On a regular console the knobs rotate clockwise almost full circle. It seemed to me on the UC1 it’s allowing you to go around and around… no stopping point. I hope I made this more clear. Please, if you can, advise. Thanks, Dennis
Hey, I figured it out. It’s working now the way it should. Please share with your listeners. Do not load software with Google chrome. Use safari. “Read the directions “. Lol ! .. lol again !
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Hi Dave. Just so you can perhaps use this in any informational purposes in the near future. On the UF8 , the plug-in side column on the left is not yet integrated with Luna just yet. Peace !
Heard that the UF-8 isn't great for CUBASE... better get a CC121 by Steinberg coupled with the UC1 that would be dope
I have not heard that. I think the UF8 would work fine with Cubase
On the 360 software, why is there pan knobs on some tracks and not others?
That's a great question. I am not sure to be honest
On mono tracks you won't see a "WIDTH" knob but I didn't know you wouldn't see a "PAN" knob as well. I use Ableton Live so mono tracks still have a "PAN" knob (because they're using dual mono I'm guessing). When I use mono tracks I still see both "PAN & WIDTH" but the width knob isn't greyed out, it just doesn't work.
I guess it's how Studio One works and 360 work together but if that's true...How do you PAN mono tracks using SSL controllers??
...Very strange.
@@doodoogtube You'd use the UF-8's pan pot as that isn't controlling any plugin, it's using HUI or Mackie protocol to control your DAWs own internal fader, pan, sends, transport etc using MIDI. It would be confusing if the pan controls INSIDE the plugin controlled the pan function OUTSIDE of it at system-level wouldn't it? I'm presuming the PAN on the stereo plugin is just there for a quick left-right balancing adjustment before it gets out of the plugin and heads out to the DAW's own mixer channel pan (I'm also presuming on that basis that the output control on the UC-1 that apparently moves the 360's 'fader' position is just moving the virtual fader IN the plugin and not the DAW fader..?)
Happy to be educated as I only have the UF-8 but really want one of these puppies...
Actually thinking on getting uc1, but tehre is any chanse to wait until SSL anounces a version 2?
I have no idea if there is a v2 coming.
It seem v2 is the new channel strip v2, so they will update more the plug ins than the uc1, I think
Very in-depth, and informative video, and well appreciated. My pet peeve against SSL is for such a well-respected audio-related company, that they are too cheap and disrespectful to its user base to NOT have a RESIZING FEATURE as well as AUTO GAIN feature on all of its plugins when even lesser-known plugin creators realize the importance of such a feature. This IMHO is a slap in the face to their supporters.
I hear you but I think that's a little "dramatic" LOL. I dont think they are slapping their supporters in the face because they did not make a resizable plugin window. Most plugs dont have this feature. But I hear your point
Great informative video
Thank you very much!
In actuality its not made for plugin control of all plugins but instead exclusively SSL plugins! Not Waves or PA etc. I can mix quite fast on my IPAD CONSOLE setup due to the fact that I can control any plugin not just SSL
correct! and I said that many times. The UC-1 is INLy for the SSL plugins not any other.
I mean: Yes it looks good und perhaps it also "feels" good. But there is no audio running trhough. As far as i can say: SSL has done 1 really good plugin - and this is there BUS-Compressor which really comes very close to my two hw. ssl-compressors. also the fusion series is good (especsially the transformer plugin) but when it comes to the 9000 channel-strip...hm..... to me thats way to much clean sounding. it might be that the 4kb is better (i didnt try it) but the 9000 is in my eyes a big disappointment.
Fair enough! but the "real" 900J is a cleaner sounding console. Its not like the G / E series so i think that is why the 9000 plugin sounds the way it does.
There’s an E button on the EQ side.