It's hard not to stick with you until the end of your videos, You are a very intellegent Spot On kinda guy and we thank you. Looking at Matt's comment below, I would like to also congratulate you on the new addition to your family. Great job across the board man.
Great video Steve, always really enjoy to watch your channel 👍 Congratulations on the baby, it's an incredible life changing moment isn't it! Try and enjoy every minute as much as you can, time will really go quickly now😉 All the best, Matt
Thanks Matt! Time has entered warp speed! 😆 harder and harder for me to keep up with everything, but you’re right, it’s more important now more than ever to slow down.
@@TheSteveKinney My boy Jake is 10 now & I've no idea where where the last decade has gone! However, you'll wake up everyday with a smile as soon as you see them - and if your not already, you'll become a ninja at changing nappies! 🤣
Hi Steve, Helder here.. Loving your workflow. I got your template loaded up in Windows.. watching your content and absorbing the knowledge. Thanks for being AWESOME!!
Thanks so much for doing these, Steve! This really transforms the experience working in Luna. I’ve purchased your mix templates and plan to start using them this weekend. The new multi-out update is great to see. Are you mixing with hardware in Luna? How are you dealing with delay compensation? That’s the one thing remaining now that I wish Luna could do…
@@mikewolfe9458 really appreciate this feedback! So. If I use hardware; it’s on the way in. There is no way to calculate the hardware delay as of yet. Blow up the feedback button in the top right corner.
Excellent video describing all of these new changes! I am wondering about your process in regards to UNDO and REDO within LUNA. Do you like keeping that as a separate action via KB/Mouse and not available on the UF1/UF8 ?
@@grid-station 100% yes. Command + z is way quicker than reaching for a key on the uf system. However, when comping, utilizing the shortcut keys on uf system in tandem with mouse, and the version up down keys is suppperrr fast. So it’s great. And those new experimental shortcuts are literally a life saver. Incredible.
Hey bud, long overdue for the next one on one! Congrats on the little one and hope the new house is coming along. Just a Q… I have Softube C1 and Fader but considering UF8. Did you have to map everything manually initially or is it fairly seamless and pre-mapped? The good thing about Console 1 is the mixing. It’s so easy. Is SSL it worth the upgrade cost? I think they’re different workflows of course. Best, Rog 🙏
Hey Roger! Crazy that I didn't get a notification on this comment. I appreciate you! I'm sure you've gotten this answered by now - but that said - the main functions are all premapped. I manually created my shortcuts though.. and spend wayyy too much time doing it! In my honest opinion, there is nothing like the UF system right now. Softube is great though. The only thing I don't seem to like about the soft tube is the proprietary nature of how it works. but that's just me... if you're deep into their plugin ecosystem, it's going to rock! end of the day, it's all about finding what inspires you to work!
@@jordanrogers9832 I kind of explain it in the installation guide. Basically, built into MacOS, you can assign a shortcut to anything that is in the file menu of a program. So I’m first, creating a keyboard shortcut for a menu item that has no keyboard shortcut. Then, I add that keyboard shortcut to ssl 360. I make it a very specific long shortcut that way it doesn’t mess with anything else. For example: “Shift + option + command + 1”
@@kevinlentz7604 it can, but I don’t really like the implementation all too much for that specific portion of control. All of the atandard mixer functionality is fantastic as expected, but the plugin control of tweaking eq and compressors from left to right on the device while verticals on screen is just awkward. They do have SSL 360 link now - where you can map plugins to the uc1 this would probably be a better way to do it.
@ Thank you Steve congratulations on your new baby ,have my first Grandchild at 65 she is 3 now ,I work with ,pre amps ,3 warm 1073,s with E,Q,ManlyForce 4 mono,,and tracking with Vision channel Strips ,I find, if can I get the most accurate tracking ,The mixing is easy I also track with Tegler crème and SSL Bus compressor over the SSL 6 inserts ,I find for me anyways,with that being said my workflow is,great mics great pre,s a little bit of Hardware compression into Luna into ,vision channel strip ,then mixing ,etc,so for me ,someway to control that vision channel strip, I have the Mk11 Softube it’s fine for doing inserts,but not controlling Vision channel strip, Merry Christmas,love your videos God Bless,Studio51@Calbogie,Ont,Canada.
@@kevinlentz7604 Really appreciate this Kevin! Happy new year! 2025 will see a lot more videos to the channel.... also ... you hit the nail on the head. ..get the tracking right, everything else falls into place.
Hey Steve That you so much for this Video. I want to ask Can you make a keyboard short cut for talk back with the Mac keyboard custom key settings ? There one other thing I wish I could do. It would be cool If I could mute the click th with my Feet in the cute mix. when we play we have no engineer and we play to a click but sometimes at the end of a song we go into a Retardando and it's very annoying to hear the click :) any help would be greatly appreciated :) Eido
Technically, no. Practically, yes. Let me explain. First, the only thing that you can keyboard shortcut, is something that is in the menu, or built in as a keyboard shortcut by the devs already. So that’s your first roadblock and the technical no… since there is no menu command nor has that function been assigned by the devs. However, the practical way of doing this is to: 1. Assign the alt button on your Apollo to the talkback. This is great for the built in functionality of the Apollo. If that’s not acceptable… the second practical way of doing it is- is to just get a mic, assign it an input channel in your session, and leave it up in the control room and smash it with compression. Then on the uf8 you can simple press the cut/mute button on that channel on and off when you wanna talk back. This is the old school method that they used back in the day before console manufacturers started building that functionality natively into the consoles. Hopefully this all makes sense. Cheers!
just reading through this again - you could totally do the click toggle with your feet for sure.... you just have to assign the click button to one of the UF8's foot switch assignments and get a foot toggle. Simple as that! ... the talkback though - that's still kind of locked down on the UA side.
Are there others to realize you actually do things the harder way? You keep banking among the related pages on the UF8 and then to press a button totally irrevelantly positioned. Why not just hit a shortcut on the keyboard and call it a day? Like for example you said to create a fade requires higlighting an area. You don't. You do that exactly the same way as with the UF8: hit D on the keyboard. Splitting a clip on the UF8? Why is that easier to lift your finger, locate the button than hitting CMD+E on the keyboard blindly? Ok, there are some small useful features i agree, but there are drawbacks: you need to take considerable time to learn, get used to and tweak it for hours or days to meet your custom demands. Then to use an expensive controller taking up desktop estate, add further complexity only to make a fade in or similar (maybe a Streamdeck controller is more useful to that btw). I need to see where it actually changes things in a big way.
@@TheHollermann Yooo. Thanks for the write up! I appreciate the sentiment. And I agree largely with you. A few follow ups: 1. did you get to the experimental features? And how you can program them? Cause that’s the fun sauce here. 2. I think the the concept I was working towards is more of a recreation of what you might do on a console. Where it’s 1:1 button presses rather than multi button keyboard commands. When comping, I mention having the versions up and down directly next to the copy and paste. It really just comes down to what’s comfortable I suppose. Some short cuts could be faster but others are not. For example, arming the track and input monitoring being right near transport… sounds crazy but when it becomes muscle memory some of these shortcuts are just faster more convenient to use. It becomes like using the dials on a hardware compressor versus clicking and dragging. Now I’m not saying it’s like that every time. But a lot of it. Second follow up question: Are you also overlooking the tactile feel of mixing? Accessing sends on fader? Towards the end of your comment you mention having a device taking up room on your desk… there is nothing like mixing on faders. But anyways, different strokes for different folks. As far as banking a bunch, the way I layed it out, you only bank as you move through the phases of production. I think in the demonstration I bank a ton more because I’m simply showing everything all at once. The layout is genuinely more efficient than that. And I’m working towards a 1:1 control layout. The goal is building something that gets closer to working like an analogue desk. Which has genuine benefits for tracking. I’m not trying to replace the keyboard and mouse. That ain’t going anywhere. 😎 Love to hear ya dive deeper on the experimental workflow. Cheers bro!
UF-1/UF-8/UC-1 plus Stream Deck workflow has cut my session time, across phases of setup, compose and /or record, edit, mix, finalize, etc… down by like 30% or more. Just my two cents. That time can be used for other things or making more music. The cost of my UF1/8/UC1 is nominal compared to the hours it’s already given me back! Everything labeled vs. memorizing the entire LUNA Shortcut map and any custom macros I’ve made (e.g.: marker labels or macros with pauses to allow for timing of windows opening)… much respect to the guy above who loves keyboard/mouse but that’s not most of us! I’ve created my own soft key layout and macros so I have a healthy respect for Steve giving his template away for free. Anyway, if anyone is still reading and plans to do their own mapping, my biggest pieces of advice are to a.) think several steps ahead and b.) use pen and paper before you start entering macros in 360… hehe. You’ll save a lot of re-typing just to re-order two buttons. Steve, if you have any juice with SSL please tell them we need drag and drop soft key “pages” and drag and drop for the assignments within each page. (Ideally, across UF-1 and UF-8 x 1 or 2+ UF-8 units, if feasible. This would make improving our mappings over time so much easier!) Thanks for your hard work, and for teaching me how to make my own Apple Menu commands today! I’m excited at the possibilities in my SSL and Elgato products.
@@survivalsoundsVEVO dude! coming in wayyyy to hot with this comment, in a good way. I was seriously just contemplating the other day about making a video on the streamdeck. wildly useful device... that new rack mounted one looks very cool.. you're point on the macros- I think until you experience how great have a pre-mapped multiple string command condensed into a singular button press... - I think you just won't really see how the UF system is different from any other controller.. .. but it IS... and the stream deck is kind of the closest thing for sure. I think I'm pinning your comment too cause your advice is too legit. I don't really have any "juice" per say - but I have a card that I've been waiting for the right moment to pull. there is so much they could be doing with this system, and I think it will take constant feedback from people to keep pushing it to where it can go. I second your idea... reordering commands is wildly painstaking... lol wishing you a happy new year! cheers!
Hi Steve, Great video as always..congrats on your newborn..God is great !
It's hard not to stick with you until the end of your videos, You are a very intellegent Spot On kinda guy and we thank you. Looking at Matt's comment below, I would like to also congratulate you on the new addition to your family. Great job across the board man.
Really appreciate this my friend! Wishing you a happy new year!
Steve, thank you! Congratulations on your new family member!
Thanks mate!!
We are over the moon, a great new journey for sure!
Thanks for the good stuff! 👌🏻 Always good to hear from you, Steve! 😎
Cheers brotha!!
Great video Steve, always really enjoy to watch your channel 👍 Congratulations on the baby, it's an incredible life changing moment isn't it! Try and enjoy every minute as much as you can, time will really go quickly now😉 All the best, Matt
Thanks Matt! Time has entered warp speed! 😆 harder and harder for me to keep up with everything, but you’re right, it’s more important now more than ever to slow down.
@@TheSteveKinney My boy Jake is 10 now & I've no idea where where the last decade has gone! However, you'll wake up everyday with a smile as soon as you see them - and if your not already, you'll become a ninja at changing nappies! 🤣
Hi Steve, Helder here.. Loving your workflow. I got your template loaded up in Windows.. watching your content and absorbing the knowledge. Thanks for being AWESOME!!
Woooooot. Hell yeah!
Thanks so much for doing these, Steve! This really transforms the experience working in Luna. I’ve purchased your mix templates and plan to start using them this weekend.
The new multi-out update is great to see. Are you mixing with hardware in Luna? How are you dealing with delay compensation? That’s the one thing remaining now that I wish Luna could do…
@@mikewolfe9458 really appreciate this feedback!
So. If I use hardware; it’s on the way in.
There is no way to calculate the hardware delay as of yet.
Blow up the feedback button in the top right corner.
Dope Video, I have 3 XTouch/ SSL 12 that I love, I'm GOING to add a CF1 & UF1. LOVE THE TEMPLATE!
Nothing beats the SSL stuff right now, they are crushing it!
Excellent Tuto... Merci !!!
Thank you Steve! I would pay for them if you did them no problem. Much appreciated for all the work you already did.
Cheers mate! Hopefully you got that experimental section straightened out.
It’s a bit funky, but superrrr handy.
@@TheSteveKinney Thank you. Just did a couple of them.
Excellent video Steve!
@@Curb2CastleRecords cheers mate!
I bet I’ll have to make an all new video like this soon 🤣
Yes please do! I just got my UF1, UF8 and UC1 two weeks ago. Also diving 100% into Luna
@@Curb2CastleRecords well, whenever they update 360 again, I’ll be having a new video.
Excellent video describing all of these new changes!
I am wondering about your process in regards to UNDO and REDO within LUNA. Do you like keeping that as a separate action via KB/Mouse and not available on the UF1/UF8 ?
@@grid-station 100% yes.
Command + z is way quicker than reaching for a key on the uf system.
However, when comping, utilizing the shortcut keys on uf system in tandem with mouse, and the version up down keys is suppperrr fast.
So it’s great.
And those new experimental shortcuts are literally a life saver.
Incredible.
Hey bud, long overdue for the next one on one!
Congrats on the little one and hope the new house is coming along.
Just a Q… I have Softube C1 and Fader but considering UF8. Did you have to map everything manually initially or is it fairly seamless and pre-mapped?
The good thing about Console 1 is the mixing. It’s so easy.
Is SSL it worth the upgrade cost?
I think they’re different workflows of course.
Best, Rog 🙏
Hey Roger!
Crazy that I didn't get a notification on this comment. I appreciate you!
I'm sure you've gotten this answered by now - but that said - the main functions are all premapped. I manually created my shortcuts though.. and spend wayyy too much time doing it!
In my honest opinion, there is nothing like the UF system right now. Softube is great though.
The only thing I don't seem to like about the soft tube is the proprietary nature of how it works. but that's just me... if you're deep into their plugin ecosystem, it's going to rock!
end of the day, it's all about finding what inspires you to work!
How are you getting shortcuts to things like “convert to uadx” ?
@@jordanrogers9832 I kind of explain it in the installation guide.
Basically, built into MacOS, you can assign a shortcut to anything that is in the file menu of a program.
So I’m first, creating a keyboard shortcut for a menu item that has no keyboard shortcut.
Then, I add that keyboard shortcut to ssl 360.
I make it a very specific long shortcut that way it doesn’t mess with anything else.
For example:
“Shift + option + command + 1”
Will this control vision channel strip in Luna
@@kevinlentz7604 it can, but I don’t really like the implementation all too much for that specific portion of control.
All of the atandard mixer functionality is fantastic as expected, but the plugin control of tweaking eq and compressors from left to right on the device while verticals on screen is just awkward.
They do have SSL 360 link now - where you can map plugins to the uc1 this would probably be a better way to do it.
@ Thank you Steve congratulations on your new baby ,have my first Grandchild at 65 she is 3 now ,I work with ,pre amps ,3 warm 1073,s with E,Q,ManlyForce 4 mono,,and tracking with Vision channel Strips ,I find, if can I get the most accurate tracking ,The mixing is easy I also track with Tegler crème and SSL Bus compressor over the SSL 6 inserts ,I find for me anyways,with that being said my workflow is,great mics great pre,s a little bit of Hardware compression into Luna into ,vision channel strip ,then mixing ,etc,so for me ,someway to control that vision channel strip, I have the Mk11 Softube it’s fine for doing inserts,but not controlling Vision channel strip, Merry Christmas,love your videos God Bless,Studio51@Calbogie,Ont,Canada.
@@kevinlentz7604 Really appreciate this Kevin! Happy new year! 2025 will see a lot more videos to the channel.... also ... you hit the nail on the head. ..get the tracking right, everything else falls into place.
Hi how can i add for cubase 13? Have you got profile? Thanks
I don’t have a profile for cubase. I don’t have a license for cubase. Haven’t used it in a minute.
Hey Steve That you so much for this Video. I want to ask Can you make a keyboard short cut for talk back with the Mac keyboard custom key settings ? There one other thing I wish I could do. It would be cool If I could mute the click th with my Feet in the cute mix. when we play we have no engineer and we play to a click but sometimes at the end of a song we go into a Retardando and it's very annoying to hear the click :) any help would be greatly appreciated :) Eido
Technically, no.
Practically, yes. Let me explain.
First, the only thing that you can keyboard shortcut, is something that is in the menu, or built in as a keyboard shortcut by the devs already.
So that’s your first roadblock and the technical no… since there is no menu command nor has that function been assigned by the devs.
However, the practical way of doing this is to:
1. Assign the alt button on your Apollo to the talkback. This is great for the built in functionality of the Apollo.
If that’s not acceptable… the second practical way of doing it is- is to just get a mic, assign it an input channel in your session, and leave it up in the control room and smash it with compression.
Then on the uf8 you can simple press the cut/mute button on that channel on and off when you wanna talk back.
This is the old school method that they used back in the day before console manufacturers started building that functionality natively into the consoles.
Hopefully this all makes sense. Cheers!
just reading through this again - you could totally do the click toggle with your feet for sure.... you just have to assign the click button to one of the UF8's foot switch assignments and get a foot toggle. Simple as that! ... the talkback though - that's still kind of locked down on the UA side.
Are there others to realize you actually do things the harder way? You keep banking among the related pages on the UF8 and then to press a button totally irrevelantly positioned. Why not just hit a shortcut on the keyboard and call it a day? Like for example you said to create a fade requires higlighting an area. You don't. You do that exactly the same way as with the UF8: hit D on the keyboard. Splitting a clip on the UF8? Why is that easier to lift your finger, locate the button than hitting CMD+E on the keyboard blindly? Ok, there are some small useful features i agree, but there are drawbacks: you need to take considerable time to learn, get used to and tweak it for hours or days to meet your custom demands. Then to use an expensive controller taking up desktop estate, add further complexity only to make a fade in or similar (maybe a Streamdeck controller is more useful to that btw). I need to see where it actually changes things in a big way.
@@TheHollermann
Yooo. Thanks for the write up!
I appreciate the sentiment. And I agree largely with you.
A few follow ups:
1. did you get to the experimental features? And how you can program them? Cause that’s the fun sauce here.
2. I think the the concept I was working towards is more of a recreation of what you might do on a console. Where it’s 1:1 button presses rather than multi button keyboard commands.
When comping, I mention having the versions up and down directly next to the copy and paste.
It really just comes down to what’s comfortable I suppose.
Some short cuts could be faster but others are not.
For example, arming the track and input monitoring being right near transport… sounds crazy but when it becomes muscle memory some of these shortcuts are just faster more convenient to use.
It becomes like using the dials on a hardware compressor versus clicking and dragging.
Now I’m not saying it’s like that every time. But a lot of it.
Second follow up question:
Are you also overlooking the tactile feel of mixing? Accessing sends on fader?
Towards the end of your comment you mention having a device taking up room on your desk… there is nothing like mixing on faders.
But anyways, different strokes for different folks.
As far as banking a bunch, the way I layed it out, you only bank as you move through the phases of production. I think in the demonstration I bank a ton more because I’m simply showing everything all at once.
The layout is genuinely more efficient than that. And I’m working towards a 1:1 control layout.
The goal is building something that gets closer to working like an analogue desk.
Which has genuine benefits for tracking.
I’m not trying to replace the keyboard and mouse. That ain’t going anywhere. 😎
Love to hear ya dive deeper on the experimental workflow. Cheers bro!
UF-1/UF-8/UC-1 plus Stream Deck workflow has cut my session time, across phases of setup, compose and /or record, edit, mix, finalize, etc… down by like 30% or more. Just my two cents. That time can be used for other things or making more music. The cost of my UF1/8/UC1 is nominal compared to the hours it’s already given me back!
Everything labeled vs. memorizing the entire LUNA Shortcut map and any custom macros I’ve made (e.g.: marker labels or macros with pauses to allow for timing of windows opening)… much respect to the guy above who loves keyboard/mouse but that’s not most of us!
I’ve created my own soft key layout and macros so I have a healthy respect for Steve giving his template away for free.
Anyway, if anyone is still reading and plans to do their own mapping, my biggest pieces of advice are to a.) think several steps ahead and b.) use pen and paper before you start entering macros in 360… hehe. You’ll save a lot of re-typing just to re-order two buttons.
Steve, if you have any juice with SSL please tell them we need drag and drop soft key “pages” and drag and drop for the assignments within each page.
(Ideally, across UF-1 and UF-8 x 1 or 2+ UF-8 units, if feasible. This would make improving our mappings over time so much easier!)
Thanks for your hard work, and for teaching me how to make my own Apple Menu commands today! I’m excited at the possibilities in my SSL and Elgato products.
@@survivalsoundsVEVO dude! coming in wayyyy to hot with this comment, in a good way. I was seriously just contemplating the other day about making a video on the streamdeck. wildly useful device... that new rack mounted one looks very cool..
you're point on the macros- I think until you experience how great have a pre-mapped multiple string command condensed into a singular button press... - I think you just won't really see how the UF system is different from any other controller.. .. but it IS... and the stream deck is kind of the closest thing for sure.
I think I'm pinning your comment too cause your advice is too legit.
I don't really have any "juice" per say - but I have a card that I've been waiting for the right moment to pull. there is so much they could be doing with this system, and I think it will take constant feedback from people to keep pushing it to where it can go. I second your idea... reordering commands is wildly painstaking... lol
wishing you a happy new year! cheers!