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The UK has been “guided” over years to become self censoring and this is the result.
If you stop you’ve been censored through the unreasonable actions of others.
Be strong and continue to photograph whatever makes you happy.
I agree , too many knuckle draggers around .
Its legal , so tell them where too go .
What about all the mobile phones around ?
Maybe use a decent mobile then .
@@gazzertrn The Sony Xperia models are great for photography. I have the Xperia 1 V and I love it!
The paranoia, narcissism, ignorance and idiocy in the UK and elsewhere in the western world is out of control.
USA too
It's only out of control because it's being tolerated! If we don't want that type of behavior, push back! We can not and I will not let people like this stop me!
@@ChuckSeayII Not just tolerated - taught in schools, colleges and universities.
@@ChuckSeayII absolutely correct.
The f**kwits are running the asylum now. Be afraid,very afraid
Brian someone just yelled at me yesterday. She was mad at me, because i took a picture of the stairway and she was at the end. I let her called me all kind of names and i took my leave. Stay as you are Brian and keep the good work.
humans are the reason why i stopped portraits and street photography, now i'm a landscape and wildlife photographer so calm and refreshing in comparaison...
I would have just said there you go delete, then said can you please move so I can take another shot without you in the way.
I do everything possible not to feature humans in my photos (I am a portrait illustrator) I sometimes watch videos of older days and people were so excited to be recorded or photographed Nowadays they carry their phones with them and take photos of the avocado toasts they are eating..
@@youevil9846 take photos of the avocado toasts they are eating.. made me laugh!
@@youevil9846 It's the insane selfies with the phone covering part of their pouting face that makes you understand how many people are actually crazy
@@youevil9846The avocado conspiracy 😂. Do some more!
Never give up! Never surrender!
"By Grabthar's Hammer, by the Suns Of Warvan , [he] shall be avenged!"
Please don't give up what you so obviously enjoy, your enthusiasm is infectious and has raised my spirit many times when I was at a low ebb....Love, Life & Unity
What I find ironic is that these types of Karens single out those with a traditional (real) camera yet they don’t flinch at a smartphone.
@@Democratiser I also think they seem to forget that everywhere, I mean everywhere they go, every corner they turn, street they cross, bank ATM they withdraw cash from, fcuk maybe even door cam security catches them and their every step.
Go figure...
Keep doing your stuff, what harm !?!
@@grantc3317 Yup. Agreed.
yep theres devices on the market whereby you can photograph or video someone and they wouldnt even know. having a traditional camera, you’re actually being upfront and honest and not doing anything underhanded
@@Democratiser or cars with dash cams, or all the private CCTV cameras
@@composedlight6850 I basically take the view privacy is dead unless you are at home.
The real kick in the nuts is that if you were using a phone no one would bat an eye. It really is frustrating. Don't back down, Brian. I know your confidence will have taken a hit but you have a big group of people here backing you. Hoping you're feeling alright and get back on the horse as the saying goes.
People aren't the same anymore. Kids used to be kids back in Cartier-Bresson's day. What would he have gotten if they weren't? There was a time when people would ask me to take their photo even without knowing the purpose when they saw I had a camera. Everybody wanted to be immortalized. Maybe the difference is they knew how short life was back then.
Don’t give up. Unfortunately this current generation are quite selfish. It’s all about ‘me!’ and they don’t give two hoots about anyone else. They have no problems photographing/videoing themselves (inc others in the background) and posting on various social media platforms for the world to see so why should I care. There are cameras on every street corner for crying out loud. They don’t want to be photographed but they love making a scene for all to see (and others/themselves film on their phones LOL). You might need to start a group photography session of like minded people to do the street walks so you have numbers on your side. I wonder if you had of gone out when the crowds were out that it may have been easier to photograph the scenes without being hassled…safety in numbers…🤔
I was thinking the same thing. Go out with someone else to give moral support. As for going out when there are more people around, that might help as it's not so obvious who is in the picture. Of course if you want a cleaner, less cluttered composition that won't help.
The worst thing is that if it was a pretty female photographer out doing street photography, nobody would complain! We definitely have an entitled, self-centred, or narcissistic generation.
Nothing to do with being 'selfish' and everything to do with being raised in a society where from a young age people are growing up mindful of the risks of sexual predators and in the news there are daily reports of men sentenced for sexual offences all connected with the rise of the online world. People have grown mistrustful of one another and seeing someone out with a camera rather than a camera phone stands out as different. None of this places the photographer at fault in this case, and verbal abuse isn't justified, but neither is writing off a whole generation of youths as selfish when they've been brought up by the generation ahead to be suspicious of others, sometimes with good reason.
@@kevob7872 I shouldn’t tarnish all of them, but quite a number do think they’re entitled brought up by those that at times behave just like their children. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree as they say. I say that as a parent. Treat others as you would expect to be treated…don’t hurl abuse at them before you ask what they are doing.
I would think those with cameras that obviously stand out in a crowd are in most cases not the threat. It’s some with phone cameras that usually walk around filming unbeknownst to others that are the problem.
@@kevob7872 No. I don't care how you were raised or what you think "society" is telling anyone, we each, alone, are responsible for not being an asshole.
Isn’t the UK one of the places in the world that has the most closed circuit cameras on public streets? People are recorded on video by multiple cameras if they are in a public space. There is no expectation of privacy when on the street, so no one should feel entitled to privacy when they are out in the open, regardless of their age.
@@MSACoachMike Show us the CCTV footage.
I was taking a photo of an outside staircase, when I hear “ what are you taking a picture of “. The unseen person was making sure I didn’t take illegal photos of his apartment building. It leaves me wondering what has happened to people, but don’t stop expressing yourself, just change your attention to a different location.
Keep up the street photography. It's a mainstay style of photography for well over 100 years. Some locations are easier to work in. Many of my shots are in crowded London streets where you pretty much get ignored. Swerve Carlisle and go places that are busier and more vibrant.
Sorry to tell you that even in London, people are becoming more vocal about being included in photos that tourists and street photographers take. Society has changed so much lately and for the worse unfortunately. There is a complete lack of compassion, tolerance and civility now in the UK. Just witness what's happening with the riots all round the UK presently.
@TL-xw6fh I've had this too in Central London. I was on the Southbank once where all the skateboarders go. Got a few really good pictures of people doing their tricks. One guy came up insisted I delete all pictures of him. I showed him all the pictures I had taken and it did two things. First, he realised I didn't get any shots of him, and the ones I got of some of the other skaters were actually not bad. I think if you are in public with a 'proper' camera, you will get some unwanted attention. It's just human nature.
I understand how you feel, but when this happens to me, my anger gets kindled and I refuse to back down. You have every right to enjoy your hobby. One trick I see many people do is to go out early before the crowds. If we let wicked people dictate our activities, we are depriving the world of our perspective. I pray before I go out that God will protect me. I will pray that God will give you peace of mind.
Amen, prayer is always top priority on my list too!
Go early is even better from light perspective, unless you want high contrast photos. You are right to stand by the law and not allow yourself to be intimidated.
How could they know they were in the shot even? I wouldn't let it stop me, personally. People are dumb and self-absorbed. "You weren't in the shot, but if you keep harassing me I'll take a few" I think would make them go away.
If on public land, and with people in the picture. If said picture is for private viewing they don't have to be deleted.
Don’t give up, as the constabulary staff should be contacted and you state that you have abused and defamed by local groups while you were taking public photographs. So sad to hear Brian.
Police wont do anything whatsoever.
@@baldymagoo
If they are bored they might even arrest Brian for taking unsolicited images. The cops in Britain are more useless and corrupt than rural police in Mexico.
The following is from the Avon and Somerset Police website, which I use whenever I am challenged in public:
"There is no law preventing people from taking photographs in public. This includes taking photos of other people’s children.
If you are taking photographs from private land, you need to have the land owner’s permission. Taking a photo of a person where they can expect privacy, such as inside their home or garden, is likely to cause a breach of privacy laws.
Unless the images which have been taken are indecent, no one has the right to:
ask a photographer to stop
ask for a copy of the photos
force a photographer to delete the photographs
Report concern about indecent photos"
Hope this help.
Yes, but it's not helpful to openly fight a widely held misbelief. I believe in working WITH the problem, not trying to fight it. It's not going to go away no matter how many statements are issued by the police saying you are right, (and actually although they are right on this occasion) they aren't the founts of knowledge we think they are. People are legitimately sensitive about being photographed. In Wells last year a nice chap approached my husband and I (being fascinated in that bastion of 'whiteness' to come across a happy bi-racial and asked could he photograph us. And even though, as photographers, we are very sensitive and kind to other photographers, I wanted to know his purpose and might well have been annoyed if he had simply arrived on scene, taken his pot shot and left!
Oh come on - if you take pictures of 'other people's children' these days - no matter what some copper may have written - you will get what's coming to you. I wouldn't point my camera anywhere near any child OR teenager. Not worth the risk......
@@MultiMarooned Unless by "what's coming to you" you mean something else than "what you deserve", the adage "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" applies. The fact that people don't like something doesn't make it immoral, much less illegal.
@c0ldc0ne that's just pedantic drivel.... we all know the risks involved in street photography and, as time goes by they get WORSE??
Best avoid confrontation from the outset by avoiding certain targets.... some accidental. I've been collared a few times - once in Brighton, twice in Glasgow, so the big city safety thing DOESN'T work.
It helps to have a sharp Scottish humour and impending Scottish menace??? Other than that I simply don't point my camera at any kids or tiktok generation. We're sometimes seen as semi paedos and upskirters and some of the content chucked out on the ever growing street forums leaves me wondering ????
No it does not. How will quoting a few words stop thugs and Karen's from attacking you? 99% of photographers know the law 😮
I stopped my interest in street photography, because a security guard threatened to phone the police, when I took a picture of a building public being restored (it was on a fenced off building site, and I was on the street).
It took months to get over it - I don't know why, but it spoiled my interest in photography, and it's never been the same since.
I have down street since my first slr and I’m in my seventies now and still going strong , much to the annoyance of my daughters . I should add that I enjoy people and the situations I find them in.
A large part of it is confidence and besides having a general theme for the day , I keep my eyes peeled for the unexpected .
Besides a MFT body with a 30mm f2.8 and my iPhone with a 28mm lens , I am covered for most eventualities without too much gear to get in the way .
Brian , don’t let others dictate your interests; that is for you to decide .
9:30. 😢 I knew it. I'm so sorry. I really wish I had a magic pill, catch-all answer or response, but I don't. This makes me so sad and really leaves me feeling sick to my stomach.
I was just trying to talk to some teens on FB who were shaming a religious group. I left a response, trying to be 100% neutral and you know what I got in response for telling this teen girl to try and be a critical thinker and don't let them do your thinking for you... I got tod I was "mansplaining." 😮💨
Take care and I wish you and you family well. 😊
Society is breeding paranoia, seeing innocent activities in such a dark way. On top pf that you get folk making a scene out of nothing to make a scene for the sake of it rather than even consider the far greater possibility that someone is just innocently and lawfully pursing a wholesome hobby and that's that.
Brian, I do feel for you and can relate to what you had experienced too of late. I am a street photographer for many years, and never subjected to abuse nor aggressive behaviour until a few weeks ago. They even "make a citizen arrest of me!", called the police and subjected me to a torrent of abuse, telling the police that I am a pervert and a paedophile. A couple intervened and tried to calmly explain it to them that there is no law against taking photos of people, even children, in public but they were even threatened! I certainly did feel that the mood is fast changing, especially in the past couple of months. It's so sad, but you must not give in to such intimidation. I certainly will not, and I feel that you should report it to the police as a threat against your safety. In my case, the police listened to them for 10 minutes, told them to go away and let them handle the situation with me. When they were gone, one of the policemen said to me, "Wow, he is not happy" and said to me literally, "You can go now"! That's how to defuse the situation, and he knew perfectly well that I have not broken the law.
That is a shame, but these young people today feel so entitled and really are just so rude.
When I am doing street photography, unless it is a festival or some other special event, I walk through where I will shoot before I snap any pics, then relook to make sure no one is in the pic.
Yes, it is a very slow process, but I don’t need nor want any drama from anyone about me taking pics in public.
Don’t give up Brian. We are behind you my friend.
I respect your view and what you do to make your experience work for you. It shouldn't be like this though, should it? I keep telling my children that in a hundred years time there will be nothing to for them to look back at. It's great to look back at old photographs to see changing syles and places. It's all going to be lost the way things are going. All the best. 👍
I’m sorry that happened. Sometimes it’s just not worth it. But don’t give up your passion. Hopefully you can find the areas that will allow you to pursue your passion and art and not feel unsafe. I appreciate your channel. I wish you all the best. 📷
If its not worth it because of your health I understand, I have high blood pressure and diabetes and severe anxiety / PTSD after my service in the Army. I went out today and took some photographs in public without any issues, but I notice myself trying to keep my "Lens Down" almost like having "Muzzle awareness" on the range, until people pass by then I take my shots, I find this ridiculous because I can't ever capture anything that feels truly organic, but I just don't think I would handle well in a confrontation, or possibly the others.
@@CenturionsofFaithMichaelPoehls respect to you from a 45 year RAF guy. Are you UK? If so which regt?
@@ThatMicro43Guy US Army 1/4 Calvary 1st Infantry Div. God bless and Respect to you, and thanks for your service!
@@CenturionsofFaithMichaelPoehls and for yours. I spent many years working alongside USAF personnel so much respect.
Sorry to hear that happened to you.
I haven't been confronted like that myself, but I can definitely relate.
It's not easy to go out in public with a camera anymore. I brought a camera with me today for a walk back home through the city, where I live after running some errands - something I usually enjoy doing, but not this time.
No "shutter therapy" for me today - there were too many annoyed or even angry looks from other people even though I always point my camera away from people....
Personally, I'm looking for a new place to live (still in the same city), and I hope to find a place with a small garden, where I can grow flowers and have something beautiful to photograph without other people giving me angry looks.
Tell them to F off and carry on as normal. I sometimes get people complaining about me flying drones or filming in public, my standard response it F off and go away.
Hi Brian, I´m from germany, and here the people total crazy about photographs. If someone complains about the taken photo, I delete, and forget it.
It is unfortunate and quite ridiculous. People are being continually filmed on security cameras everywhere in public and don’t seem to care. But then they get triggered on some really trivial things.
Mr. James I am sorry that happened - appalling that you were treated that way. We appreciate you and your work.
They don't stop to think about it because it is invisible to them or they know it is unavoidable. A person with a camera obviously taking pictures is something they can notice and then get riled up about.
But of course, they don't even think twice about using their phones to video or post them on social media.
I used to think people began acting so uncivilized because of more sensationalized media, in your face politicians, violent programming and a general unhappiness made it okay to do so. I was wrong. I now believe that sensationalized media, in your face politicians, violent programming and a general unhappiness are a reflection of who we have become as a society - something far worse.
Somewhere along the line, so many have lost their senses of shame. The world is different in worse ways today. Sadly, you will never change it. The best you can hope for is to not subject yourself and family to its vitriol. Don’t allow it to shape your life’s experience.
As a photographer myself, seeing the beauty in the world is harder today, but the journey to uncover it is still magically worth the effort. I hope you find that new path and never look back.
Fair winds, my friend!
Your feelings are valid, unfortunate, undeserved. You decide what to do, but don't apologize for your humanity.
Big hug to you,
Sean
Time to buy a gh7 with the fattest zoom lens on the market. Get yourself a John Candy outfit and get back out there. High res mode with long paused shots. Let them roar as you live in the view finder with a concentrated knee down shot.
Cheers, that made me laugh
@@ThatMicro43Guy Me too.... I'm still chuckling.
This is an Interesting point as ive made sure ive not had people in my pictures for a long time now. When in China, people ran up and asked me to take pictures of them. In the UK ive waited until people are not in the shot, some even asked why I wait and dont want people in my pictures, I say because I dont want them in them.
Its a very odd mindset in the UK now, a generation fed on social media snapshot selfies, idealism, fake information and mental health issues. Its not about you, its their problem and mindset.
I can't remember ever having any real trouble taking photos but if I do this from a previous post may come in useful
"I just let them know that I don’t have the disgusting, dirty thoughts that they themselves have in their heads." What a brilliant reply. Another could be "I am scouting/spotting for a movie"!
Carry on Brian, you are so enthusiastic, knowledgeable and fun. DON'T GIVE UP please.
Another good one is to say you are taking photos for the local newspaper. You have to look really uninterested and bored though, for it to work. And I mean REALLY bored.
@@klausbinn777 lol
I happened to me, I was also physically assaulted I was pushed with a two handed shove onto a rocky slope, I was 63 at the time and not in the best of health, I took some photos too close to some ones property apparently, then it all kicked off the guy was in his late 30s early 40s. So I photographed him on my back coming at me again with a mad hate look and outreached hands. I legged it to my car and when I got home contacted the police and sent them the photos and his address. ( I google earthed it) he was arrested the next day Sunday 6am kept 24 hrs until his wife lied for him and said she was there (not) and I fell and he was reaching the help me up. Still wary of people now at 69, don't tend to take the same photos as before (disused railway infrastructure). I can see from your demena you are badly shaken and that is wrong, it does get better but it also will still be in the back of your mind. Keep strong and in good health.
My close friend told me that her brother was taking pictures of HIS kids at a park and someone complained that he was taking pictures of kids to the police. The police showed up and confiscated his camera for investigation. They were his kids!
The police have no right to confiscate his camera! So long as the photos are taken in a public place, e.g. a park it is perfectly legal to take photos of anything and anyone, even children in the UK. Just Google and you can find links to police website, e.g. the Avon and Somerset Police, detailing your rights to public photography.
@TL-xw6fh I don't know. She said he got his camera back after it was determined to not be incriminating. Told to me second hand so if there are details unspoken, I'm not sure.
@@jackslater8688 I'm a street photographer and I've had to be very familiar with my rights. Indeed, the only time the police can ask to see your photos is under the Terrorism Act. Even then they cannot confiscate the camera or ask for the photos to be deleted without a specific court order against your friend.
So sad Brian. There are so many misunderstand laws on freedom of speech and laws around photography in the UK.
Incidents like this are the reason I have been nervous about giving street photography a go. Gutted for you and the community, but you haven’t let us down. Speaking out about these issues and going over the actual law in the UK is brave and really empowering. Thank you
It's a rite of passage if you take photographs in public. I was taking architectural shots in town last week when two kids strolled over and asked if I was a paedo. I said no, and asked the smaller one if he was a midget. After a little back and forth in this vein, they wandered off. My embarrassment circuits burnt out a long time ago.
@@geoffreywarburton well done you!
Happened to me once so I told the person accusing me that if she thought I was doing anything illegal then she should phone the Police and that I would wait exactly where I was. She soon gave up. But your right it is very disheartening when your taking a photo of a monument and someone just so happens to be in the shot
Keep fighting back against this. Every time someone gets away with this they push this fear mongering of photographers even further.
Recently, I was sitting in a restaurant on Mont St Michel, France, placed in the open "shop window" and watched the streams of tourists hurry past me as I ate. Nobody had anything against me pressing the shutter button. The surprise was that most people realised that I was taking their picture and showed a relaxed, friendly face.
Dear Brian: Don't lose heart! That young woman is obviously a wounded creature who lashes out. She does not possess "tools" in her "toolbelt" to properly articulate herself. Maybe she isn't that intelligent? (Rhetorical question.) Her age already works against her (teenagers can be so cruel.) Plus, she lacked the courage to address you without her gang to back her up (typical teenager.) I don't know how she was broken but I do know there are MANY people like her out there. All that said, I highly encourage you to continue with your street photography! If you surrender your joy, your passion, your photography to such bullies, they win and you lose. I have a hypothesis about bullies and cowards: 1:1 ratio: One part bully = one part coward. This has been my personal experience and my personal observations. There's a wounded child in that adolescent body (as well as her friends) but that should not prevent you from your street photography. Maybe you just need to put on your Thick-skinned Brian Protective Armor to prevail when you are out there? You are a very honorable man with great integrity. You also have a lifetime of experiences and hard-won wisdom that she does not possess. Transcend this episode and please continue to provide street photography! PLEASE!
I live in Carlisle and confirm there is some dreggs that breath amongst us. I like you take many photos in town with and without people in.
Just carry on and put it down to a bad day in town 📷👍🏻
If you are ever passing Costa on London Road in the afternoon 3pm onwards look out for me and say hello. I’m there often
@@ThatMicro43Guy I will remember that when I’m on a wander up that way ☕️📷👍
Sorry to hear this happened to you. It happens far too often these days and isn’t pleasant when it happens. Male photographers get this more than women, but even female photographers I know have had incidents recently. I think street photographers are taking the backlash for our increasingly monitored society. Everyone is photographed numerous times a day by police and security cameras, but the guy with the camera is an easy target. Try not to let this incident get you down too much. A way to work your way back to street photography would be to start with events, markets, concerts and the like. Until you’re ready to get back in the street photography saddle, historic areas and woodlands make for good photo walks.
I have been doing landscape photography since I was a kid. You don't have this type of drama. Now is a good time to pivot. Mother Nature will not yell at or intimidate you. She loves the camera as well.
I do enjoy your street photography. Please continue. Don't let a couple of bad experiences stop you.
Never let people interfere with your dreams. Thank you for sharing with us
I’ve packed in street photography, at least where including people in my frame are concerned. I still do urban photography. It’s now just to stressful in the uk to do it anymore - at least for me.
People aren't worth the time and effort mostly. So yes, urban photography is the way forward - especially for us lone wolves!
The irony is that if you had fallen over with a heart attack, most youths would film you writhing for their "socials" before helping .
Mate, it's hard to brush off these confrontations. They affect us mentally, and it sits with us for days/weeks afterwards. You do what you feel like you are capable off. Maybe find a social group that goes out together?
It's not just happening in street photography Brian this happens everywhere, i do a lot of music nightclub rave festival photography and have been threatened several times over the last 15 years, had my camera grabbed, been punched in the face, tripped up, bum pinched, been threatened to have the camera thrown in the water at an outdoor event, even had cameras stolen, I just see it as humans that are either evolutionally wired wrong or just too drunk, luckily the events I'm at have security which deal with these characters but out on the streets it can get a bit scary i took a notion for doing some night photography around Glasgow city centre a few years back, I wasn't really harassed by anyone, more just dirty looks from some people but felt vulnerable whenever i came across group of people hanging about, on a few occasions I had to evade them and ended up just going home. I soon realised it was maybe not a good idea at night lol, early morning photography on the streets was better as there is hardly anyone around, only drawback is that summer is almost finished, I don't think you should quit at all Brian perhaps turn towards another places that are a bit more chill. don't let them grind you down buddy. all the best!
it’s generational. As a child growing up we ad conversations with adults in the street. These relationships developed my generation . The latest generation have been encouraged wrongly and detrimentally that this is weird. It’s actually stunted modern societal development
Don’t let a fatuous, spoiled child take away something that gives you great joy. Maybe ease back into it by finding a event or location that’s photographer friendly to find your equilibrium again. Step back, take some deep breaths but don’t give up.
Brian, please don’t let this affect your love for photography. Unfortunately many towns and villages even here in Ireland are suspicious of photographers. It’s just a sign of the times. Put it will pass. Let it go over you head. There is lots of wonderful things to photograph. Chin up friend!! We go again !!!
Regards Tom in Ireland
I had a similar experience over 20 years ago in the city of Sheffield when I was in my late teens and just starting out in photography. I didn’t get quite the response you got, but I did have a bunch of kids call me the P word. They weren’t even in the shot when I took the photo, but since then I’ve always been very careful as to who might end up in the frame. I mainly stick to tourist attractions now for street photography, so I can use that as a cover while taking candid photos. Or if I’m feeling brave, I might ask people if it’s okay if I take their photo. Whether it’s street, or not, keep up the good work. You’re a source of inspiration. Thanks.
Unfortunately that's the way things are going today, like you say brains of rocking horses and too much self importance.
In 2018 i took a photo down a rural road. One car was distantly in the photo.
Subsequent to photo the driver stated 'i don't want my picture taken'.
The candian federal police (RCMP) arrested and charged me.
@@Mme.Swisstella unbelievable! That’s crazy
Hi Brian. I’m sorry to hear about this. I have had the very same, multiple times. It’s horrible to be accused of something you’re not doing.
I was videoing Christmas decorations in a shopping centre and got stopped by security and even THEY started hinting that I might be a pervert. It happened to me in a car park, when I was videoing its church. A lady pulled up in front of me, got out and started to verbally abuse me for having her in my shot. I had a go back and then she accused me of videoing her child. I saw red and went on the attack. She backed off. Afterwards, I thought, Why should I stop videoing because of people with nasty thoughts?’
I watched a lot of drone videos where the guy got pulled up by security and watching him deal with these ignorant people gave me the courage and skills to face up to these dirty minded individuals.
It worked. They back off very quickly because I just let them know that I don’t have the disgusting, dirty thoughts that they themselves have in their heads.
Don’t give up because of those idiots. They are looking for trouble and will use any verbal tool to gain power over you. Once you accuse them of dirty thoughts, they begin to lose their power.
Contrast in USA …. I went into a tobacco shop. Asked to video. The owner said, ‘Please do’ and then he asked if he could be in it! Led to an interview with him about his shop. I spoke to him about the UK and our obsession with perverts. He said that as far as he was concerned, videos were good, free publicity and nothing to do with catching people on video. He then went on to say that maybe THEY have problems, not me!
Stick at it. Fire back about their disgusting thoughts.
Something similar happened to me a few years ago, and it was also sad how some verbally attacked me for taking photos in public places, but I have now moved on, but now I only take photos very carefully where unknown people is in the photo. Very sad that street photography has taken that turn 😥
Its why I prefer nature photography
Don't think I'd be brave enough with the mood of the general public these days
I'd love it if I were included in any street photography
Don't let it spoil what you enjoy
I’ve been confronted here in the US 5 or 6 times, and I always react the same as you. I quit taking street photography. But eventually I go back, more cautious, but I go back. Until the next time and I stop again. I don’t have an answer to this, but I understand what you are going through.
Don't let one knucklehead spoil things Brian. This happens from time to time. I actually had someone who was in an editorial stock photo I took in downtown Chicago contact me through Facebook and threaten to sue. I told them they had no expectation of privacy in public and that their lawyer would tell them the same thing. I never heard anything more from them.
Get over it. You’re better than they are. We love what you do. Thanks for all you do👍👍👍
Hi Brien, I am sorry to see you so upset by that horrible experience. I think you are correct in considering quitting street photography, it’s not a question of right or wrong it’s do I need this level of stress in my life.
That same kid and group of kids probably all take photos with their phones of whatever they want and instantly post them to social media. A very "teen" behavior to believe that she is the center of everyone's attention.
So pleased you have so many supportive comments. Stupidity and ignorance can really blindside you and it hurts. You are not in isolation and it happens to us all. Keep going as you clearly bring happiness to a lot of people.
@@ianharvey2777 thank you. Very kind
A lot of people have become complete narcissists and spread their image all over the net, until someone else captures them without their permission and then they suddenly value their privacy. Calling someone a pedo is a crime. It is slander and is an arrestable offence. Maybe you should remind these cretins of that.
So sad to hear this. Don't quit! I just started watching your channel and have really been enjoying what you have created. Let those who talk talk and let them live with their own truth.
@@ntrifun1 thank you. Welcome to the channel, there’s a really friendly bunch of subscribers here.
Sorry to hear about experience, I had a similar situation using a 35mm film camera . They weren’t even in the frame. People sadly are poorly educated, I mean doesn’t everyone have high quality cameras on their phones ! You’ve done nothing wrong , I would advise take a break and come back to what you enjoy.
Hi Brian,
I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. I've been in a similar situation a couple of times.
I've been confronted by angry parents who mistakenly thought I was taking pictures of their kids in public spaces.
Actually, I'm careful to avoid people in my pictures. But these are scary times, and folks assume that you are up to no good.
It hurts to know that people think of you in that way. And for a long time, I stopped doing street photography.
I think that the pain will ease, and you will resume your work in time.
From one brother in photography to another, I'll send good thoughts and vibes your way, and I hope that you feel better soon.
Frank
@@frankstyburski814 thank you Frank, gratefully received
This world is becoming so overcooked that at the end of the day even landscapes will start to become angry on landscape photographers 😔 just take some rest my friend, you're totally ok, you didn't do anything wrong... It's not your problem, it's her problem! Don't put your time anymore in this horrible confrontation. You deserve better! Take a nip of your coffee and continue your wonderful channel. In this crazy world, in which people even cut the Hadrian's wall tree, everything is possible. But I read that the tree starts to grow again, do the same Brian! 😎
Hi & hello from Oz, it's so sad to see how society has changed isn't it Brian.
Don't let them beat you mate, your videos are valued on this channel.
Thank you
I have found that since the pandemic some people's attitudes have changed, these people have become a new challenge in the world of street photography. I have been shooting for over 25 years and I get greef just about every time I'm out with the camera, it doesn't stop me but it definitely affects how I approach talking pictures with people in them. I do find the busier the better or completely deserted is best but it can be quite draining at times.
Hi Brian
Don’t give up
I have never been brave enough to do street photography, but the photographs take by some of my fellow club members and your self and photographers like you are capturing our urban environment are recording thing’s that maybe not be for much longer. The photographs taken by the like Cartier-Bresson are now part of of the history of Paris.
Go back and look at publications like picture post etc are full of of our history
Keep it up Brian enjoy YOUR photography
You're letting a child with emotional problems bully you into giving up and robbing you of something you enjoy. I've experienced some incidences too. It's not pleasant but I still photograph what I want to photograph. I hope in time, when you're not feeling so bruised, you'll carry on with what you enjoy.
I was just about to go into Carlisle to take some pictures. Don’t think I’ll bother now. Ps, I know exactly how you feel
@@johngyorki2569 I don’t do street, as in people. More urban, buildings and city scenes. But I still feel uncomfortable even doing that. For exactly the reason described in this video. One of the comments suggested that Carlisle isn’t awash with tourists. So the locals aren’t used to it. I think that’s highly likely.
But I have changed my mind and will go this afternoon
Brian don’t quit! You’re too good of a photographer/creator to give up on something you enjoy doing that is perfectly legal and above board. Like you I also enjoy creating UA-cam videos and street photography. I try not to let those occasional negative interactions discourage me from doing what I love being Street photography and creating. Although if you’re not feeling uncomfortable doing street photography probably best to go with what makes you feel comfortable Brian just don’t stop creating UA-cam videos.😎✌️
@@jdstrobist thanks. I’ve just looked at your channel too and just subscribed.
Anyone reading this? Have a look and subscribe too. Entertaining.
@@ThatMicro43Guy Thanks for the sub Brian. 🍻I’m looking forward to seeing you in your next upload. 😎✌️
As you say , its not worth it. Public spaces such as town centers are now no go areas and will i fear decline further.
As a street photographer, who main subject IS people, and has been assaulted over it before, I know this struggle. Though as long as you know your own intentions, and love what you do, I think you could find your way back to street photography! Either way, don't stop taking photos man you got some real good ones you clearly have a strong passion.
Thank you. I'm quickly going back to the idea, partly because of the hundreds of encouraging comments like yours here and partly because my fighting spirit is taking over from the emotional one and I don't see why I should be hounded away from a legitimate hobby by someone else.
There's people with strange ideas everywhere, Brian : Don't give up....We love your channel, your passion and your photography!!
I'm sure we've all been there. I've had similar experiences. I'm always a little anxious when I go out, but I found the rewards far outweigh the negatives.
I'm sorry this happened to you. I'm from Brighton and perhaps it's because it's a very touristy place but I've been lucky not to have had this happen in the street. But regardless of where you are it should never have happened to you 😢
I've experienced a lot of this as well and very sorry to hear. It is indeed increasingly difficult to take photographs in public these days, regardless of whether you call it 'street photography' or not.
Sorry to hear that😢. I dismissed the warnings from my friends about avoiding teenagers in the UK as exaggerated. However, as I spent more time in public spaces like parks, malls, and on public transport, I began to understand their concern. Various incidents I witnessed made me increasingly cautious. I even stopped carrying my camera ..
Rise above it. Take the groundswell of best wishes.
It's so unfortunate that this happened to you Brian. No advice, it just makes me feel bad for you.
Don't worry, Brian. What can you expect, when instead of reading a book or just enjoying a walk and talk most people stare at a small screen all day worried about which filter to use on social media so their life won't seem so empty.
Am quite saddened by your decision to give up on street photography which you obviously enjoyed. I hope you find a new genre which won’t see you in confrontational situations. All the best, and thank you for many enjoyable videos, cheers from Australia
The problem isn't just with photography these days, it's many things.
People have simply become too self righteous and intent on not backing down. Worse still is it's based on unwise and uneducated generalisations.
One can only hope that human nature steps in to reset the baselines of decency in society.
I'm absolutely rubbish at taking decent images so I really appreciate good photography - especially street photography so please don't give up. We need people like you more than ever in these dark days
Thanks for sharing your experiences, even if it's hard. I would continue to take photos in the streets if you enjoy it. Maybe try going out early in the morning so there are less people. And if anyone confronts you again, be prepared with statements like "You weren't in the picture, don't worry. But have a nice day." I think you've just gotten unlucky that you ran into a couple of really mean people. Most people don't mind or even care what you are doing with a camera. And part of it is confidence on your part. Once you build that up again, people will sense that and they'll stop confronting you, at least in theory.
In Germany (my home country), taking photos of people in public is also pretty tricky. On the one hand, it feels like everyone takes a (however aesthetic) selfie of themselves at every opportunity, but on the other hand, some people seem to feel that their personal rights are threatened just by having the sole of a shoe photographed.
Basically, the result is that in 50 years' time we will probably have hardly any usable contemporary documents - apart from millions and millions of wide-angle distorted selfies...
It is happening very fast in this country. There is a very low level of tolerance and total lack of awareness that in the UK, there is no law against taking photos or videos in public, even of children. So long as it is not indecent or used for criminal or illegal use, we are totally free to take whatever we want. No one, even the police, can force us to show them the photos or delete the photos from the camera. I've even taken photos of the MI6 building from the road in Central London and the security there did not even bother to approach me. I've spoken to some security guards in Liverpool Street Station and they told me that I'm free to take photos there so long as I do not overtly seek out the hidden security cameras!
To be fair, I was a bit worried about doing street photography in Germany. However, I did 3 days in Munich and 4 days in Cologne. No problems at all, in fact people very polite. Could be luck or could be that big cities are different?
@@thetoovmeister9799In Germany, it really depends on where you are. Cities are usually more progressive, some small towns in Germany are also very friendly - you should just ask first.
But overall, taking photos of strangers is not particularly welcome.
@@TL-xw6fh with the exception of the terrorism act where they can demand to seize equipment and see (but not delete) the images
@@ThatMicro43Guy Thanks for that clarification, but even so, they need to cite the reason is because they suspect the photographer as a potential terrorist. To seize the camera equipment, the police also need to have a court order allowing them to do so in the first place.
Sorry to hear about this negative experience. Swearing at someone in public can be an offence under the Public Order Act 1986 if it causes harassment, alarm, or distress. It’s not specifically covered by PACE, but if someone’s behaviour makes you feel threatened or uncomfortable, you can report it to the police, and they might take action depending on the situation.
This is the first time I have seen one of your videos. I am sorry this happened to you. My advice to you as a member of the older generation is "don't give up". Don't let the actions of a few entitled brats keep you from doing what you cleatly love to do. All the best to you.
Thank you
Once I had a problem with a drunk who wantwd to fight because he thought I wanted to photograph him. He does not deserve me to quit my hobbie. But I understand you and hug you.
Sorry to hear about the negative reaction. You could always try photographing the many charter trains which pass through Carlisle Railway Station. Take care and keep up being creative.
Switch to nature and macro photography. Enjoy the colors and have fun. Don't give up on something you have a passion for.
I've had few very nasty situations. Few months ago it was so bad, that I've stop taking pictures on the streets. I'm slowly recovering, and I came to conclussion that this is inevitable. Please don't give up!
Brian, keep on taking pictures. You are capturing history. I wish I had taken pictures of my town in the past if only to document how the council etc have ripped the heart out of it. Just watched the rest as I commented before the end, I can see how much this upset you. Hopefully with the support you receive you will carry on.
Times have changed unfortunately. 10 years ago I didn't think anything of going out in public places with an SLR mounting a 100-400. Now I hip shoot with a Fuji x70. Strangely enough the wide angle hip shots are better 😄