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Vevor's CUT-50P Pilot Arc Plasma Cutter - Unexpected Results
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2024
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CUT50P Plasma Cutter. (I do not recommend this unit for 120V) Works great on 240V.
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Actual Description: In this video, I test Vevor's CUT 50P, the high frequency start 50 amp plasma cutter. the.guys.repair
Hi Joel,
Somehow I missed the tag-on you put after the last video until now. I went back and watched it after seeing your comment thanking them for their responses in this video.
Sorry to hear you are having to go through a separation/divorce and all that goes with it. Been there and done that 24 years ago. (It was a bit more complicated due to having a 7 year old child we continued to raise with joint custody in separate homes.)
Hang in there, it will get better. Remember not to isolate, and continue to reach out to good friends.
Some suggestions:
If there are holes in your emotional support system, I recommend getting some professional therapy to help through the emotional gyrations that come with a separation. I found it helpful, and there's no shame in seeking and getting help through trying times.
Also, if you qualify for any of the 12 step programs, they can be a real help for processing through it all. Most people at least qualify for one of them (like Al-Anon) as I don't think anyone's life has been completely unaffected by someone else's addiction, even if it is a generation removed from yours. Unlike professional therapy, the 12 step programs don't cost anything.
Cheers from Oregon,
Philip
I'm very lucky that we didn't have any kids. We only had a cat, haha. It was a pretty easy separation, as far as they go.
Thanks for your suggestions and concerns.
I am very much a recluse / introvert and don't do well with too much social interaction. I am trying to release a video for tomorrow where I briefly talk about how being in social situations is exhausting, haha... but I have been visiting with (getting visits from) a friend recently and texting friends.
I have dealt with depression and mental health issues run in my family. (OCD and bipolar) I haven't spoken to therapist in about 8 years, but I have seen therapists from the time I was 8 years old. I have learned to recognize when I am in a bad spot. (not there yet) I've been handling all of this pretty well, all things considered.
Thanks again for your comment !
All I needed to know and see. I just ordered it. And I have plenty of uses for it. Having got into the sheetmetal trade 30 years ago I kinda drifted away from this stuff and for anyone that doesn't know these things have come a long, long way in ability and price. $200 is cheap.
Cool... they really have come a LONG way and have come down so far in price. The consumable price is a big deal, for someone who uses once a lot... my old unit had $40 consumables, and this one is about $2 per set, haha.
Pretty cool stuff! It's amazing how helpful a plasma cutter can be!
I wouldn't call it a "must have tool", but if you have it, you will find lots of different uses for it. Kinda like having a lathe and so many other tools.
When I first got my plasma cutter, my buddy was over and I made him a spaceship too 😂
If you can't find a little humor in making a spaceship, then I'm not sure we could be friends... 🤣
I used to have one just like that but not sold by vevor be careful using it around electronics mine would reset my computer from across the shop from the HF start. Glad to hear you got you house covered for now. Separating from someone you have been with for so long gets complicated. You will find you have more time now to make the money you need. Good luck man!
Thanks Lance. That's interesting about the HF interfering with other stuff.
I do have more time now. Not sure if it has anything to do with being single or if it is just because my cat is gone, haha.
@@loweredexpectations4927 😂 that sucks...
I am trying to rationalize a justification for ordering one. I don't need it now, but when I do, I do.
Haha... I get that. This is one of those tools that, once you have it, you will find uses for it. Last summer I did some repair work on my buddies trailer, and used his plasma cutter to remove a bunch of rusty old metal and welds ... I probably saved a days worth of cutting with a grinder, and $50 worth of cut off discs... Not to mention the mess, noise and dust everywhere.
I have done without one for a long time, and I wouldn't say it is a "must have tool" but the price has come down enough that they are now accessible to just about everyone.... and the cost of consumables also. The first cutter that I had, A Victor Thermal Dynamics (got stolen) .... the consumables cost about $40 a set ... and these are about $2 when bought in bulk.
I found those stand-offs to be more trouble than they're worth. Keep burning through.
I'm not a huge fan either. If you are a noob and have never welded, then maybe ... they are okay for some stuff... but I agree. I find that I snag them on the metal.
Looks like your mouse wandered a little too close to the black hole.... Got a little stretchy at the tip. 😂😅 You're awesome bro!!!!
HAHA ! Thanks Tilly !!
Just a beefed up Plasma Cigarette Ligthter... 😂
I'm might get one. Great for impressing your Family and Friendz when lighting a smoke...or shroom. 👍
(Glad things are positive. You look Positive!) Great Presentation!
LOL... You might want to crank the air pressure down to light your cig... but it is more impressive than a little lighter.
Thanks. I have down moments, but overall I have been feeling pretty positive.
Great, now I want one, thanks Joel!
Hopefully just a capacitors, not a huge deal... wanna sell it,? Lol!
Even after watching the whole video, haha. That's good.
BJ found me some capacitors for about $8 each. I will probably replace all 4 so that they 100% match and so that one of the others don't pop... I'm not sure how they were wired, so the one going bad may have loaded the others.
I will be selling it, but the shipping cost would be prohibitive. BJ things that I should use one for a CNC plasma table, haha
They are only $210.00 US and they have 650 of them in stock.
That was a great review thank you some funny stuff also
Thanks for the comment. Appreciated.
That's impressive!! I had no idea that a plasma could cut all that. I've used mine for thin metal, and that's it. 3/4" phew!! That's substantial. Does it go thicker if you jamb the pressure up to max? Have you ever used it on round stock? Like could you cut an axel with it?
Happy that you got your house mostly figured! ;) That's such a huge stress to have relieved!
Yeah, you can cut some reasonable thick material with ease I would say 3/8" (10mm) plate steel is not much of an issue and you will get good quality cuts (with a 50 amp cutter and around 80 psi).
Once you get into the thicker stuff, your speed really drops off and it's hard to get decent quality cuts, as any deviation in angle from your hand, changes the pattern of the cut.
The idea is that at lower amps, you should run lower air pressure. This will make for a better quality cut, use a lot less air, throw around less mess / sparks and so on. I think the max pressure they recommend is around 80, and I always just run mine at 80. I have cranked my old one up (many years ago) and it would cust slightly more.
They do cut round stock, but the technique can be tricky if you are looking for a quality cut. If you just want to hack it off.... not a problem. Years ago, when I had my Vicotr Thermal Dynamics, I had a grounded roller setup, so that I could place round stuff on it and hold the torch still and rotate the work to cut .... mostly for pipe. It was a lot of fun.
It does feel good to have the house stuff sorted out... Or at least, that part of the house stuff.
Hi again Joel,
YT keeps deleting my comments, so I am trying to figure out why by splitting them up.
I finally got a vevor CO tester that didn't have a sticky "on" button (the 3rd one I got), and so was able to compare it to the color display model you use (which is getting hard to find). The vevor works okay, but has a slower response time than your color display model has, so it's not as usable for motor or heater tuning as the color display model is.
It's hard to gauge the accuracy of any of these inexpensive co meters because they all read differently, and all have different refresh rates. Bottom line, they do warn you when PPMs go up, so they are probably all useful as a safety device.
I'm going to wind up keeping both the vevor model for use as an on-board co tester when using a diesel heater to heat the boat or camper -- I can turn off the auto-off function and leave it on and it should wake me up if something goes awry.... It should use less power because it doesn't have to produce light for the display to be readable, unlike the color one. I'll keep the color display model for motor and heater tuning because of it's much faster refresh rate.
I can send you a video of the simultaneous test of the two meters in my car's exhaust via FB messenger, but you don't seem to check that regularly so I won't unless you respond to this comment. Or you can send me your email address via FB messenger and I can send you a link to the video on cloud storage.
We'll see if this one gets deleted or not.
Cheers from Oregon,
Philip
YT has been really picky about what they allow people to say. I think most of what they delete is simply out of misunderstanding / lack of context.
I think that the CO meter is to be used as a general guide and like you say, shows you when it gets to a dangerous amount. Unless you have a laboratory setup, mixing of "fresh" air with the CO is going to drastically affect the reading .... it does read parts per million, so a little fresh air makes a huge difference.
It would be interesting to hook an amp meter up to the different heaters (displays) and see if you can actually read a difference in amp draw. So far... this comment has not been deleted, haha.
I actively stay away from FB as it is not good for my mental health... at all, haha. I left my email address at the end of the description of this video ... and left out the @gmail.com Feel free to email me there.
Oh my god Joel!! The last time I saw a drawing like that was in my High school mens room stall.
Haha... well I'm proud to say I have come to your rescue. Rockets are fascinating things and my sketch could be a mind opening experience for you.
It's great when you open something up and the fault is clear to see finding a bad cap is high on my top 10 of nice faults. I fixed one recently picked up for £50 not working and it was just the trigger wire had come unplugged from the PCB. Does Vevor sell any CNC plasma cutters there's 100s of simple way's to make easy money with one.
Sorry for the delay, Colin... I've been busy.
I know exactly what you mean about a clear fault. I feel the same way about this and every time I open up a carburetor and see pet hair, dirt or some green slime, haha. The annoying ones are when you clean it out, but don't actually see anything wrong, yet it works properly afterwards.
They don't sell a CNC setup. My buddy was telling me I should set one of these up to run CNC, once I get around to fixing the broken one. That could happen at some point, but I am currently SO deep into so many different projects, haha.
LMFAO 🤣 "SPACESHIP" I destroyed lots of metals with my first plasma cutter, I actually used to be the Canadian distributor for LOTUS brand Chinese welders and plasma cutters.
Awesome !! It's amazing how much better they have gotten, and how much the price has come down. It truely is accessible to just about anyone these days
Space shuttle. Absolutely 😅
To infinity and beyond ! Haha !
"Spaceship" 😀
I think so.. why, did you think of something else ? haha !
Come for the mechanical projects, stay for the dick jokes!
That cut great for a $200 plasma cutter, but did you know that you could fill that hole that you cut back in easily by just clamping a piece of 1/4 Inch brass or copper plate to the bottom of the hole? It works best with a MIG, but you can fill in with a stick if it doesn't need to be pretty. ( edit.... Also, you can't cut through brass or copper with the plasma cutter.)
I have heard that about brass or copper.. and have tried it on a few very small patches... never with anything large.
How are things going? Did you manage to get the mudding of the drywall done and finishing up the basement? Also was there more testing you were doing with the diesel heater? Also I noticed you still have that Mazda car, I thought it was your girlfriend's or wife's?
Plasma cutter is definitely neat and it was really interesting watching you try to cut through different materials it was defiantly not meant for lol.
Thanks for asking .. Things are going fairly well.... My mortgage came through on Friday, so it has been VERY hectic, leading up to that.
I finished up with my mudding and will be spraying on some primer this week. Not sure where I'm going from there, haha .
I haven't been doing any testing, but I do have one video that I need to release with the results from my "self cleaning" heater.... it worked quite well, but needs some more suitable materials for the rotating shaft (it eroded away) I haven't had time or motivation to finish editing that video, with everything that has been happening.
The Mazdaspeed 3 belongs to Megan, my X girlfriend / common law.... She "takes possession" of her new house tomorrow, Monday, and will be slowly moving her stuff, and Quasar, our cat, in the next few weeks. She wants to get everything moved in and set up, to cause Quasar as little stress as possible.
Plasma cutters are very cool and much more affordable than they used to be.... I used my buddies this past summer to do a repair on a trailer. I probably saved a days worth of grinding, and $50-60 worth of grinding discs, because I was able to cut out welds and rusty old metal, using the plasma cutter.
It would be interesting to hear more about your Everlast. Did you ever get to work properly again?
It's those kind of stories that make me very hesitant to buy from the green company. I had my own experience with a water cooler I bought from them. They resolved it but were kind of a pain to deal with. It's a shame because some of their welders are kind of nice for the money but their after sales support leaves a lot to be desired.
Not really. The issue is hard to explain, and I think / know they couldn't actually be bothered to test my machine, once they received it.
It has a few issues where it seemed like it would switch from AC to DC while I was welding aluminum. The HF start had issues. There was an issue with the slope or taper feature... Basically, it had about 6 different faults that would show up intermittently, and others that are immediately apparent. (I believe all related)
They were convinced (and so was I) that it was something that I was doing wrong... I got a new regulator, new hose, new consumables, checked for leaks like 10 times, switched out CO2 tanks 3-4 times. I did everything they told me to do for about 2 months, and it cost me several hundred dollars, not to mention my time...
When I sent it back to them, I had to pay shipping because it had been beyond their free shipping point.... because they kept making me try stuff that didn't work, for 2 months. When I packed it up, I made sure to pack it in a way so that I would know if they had used the regulator, hose, if they opened up the welder etc... They did open the welder up, but they did not even test or use my hose or regulator... that they had claimed were the issue, previously.
They sent the unit back to me with zero communication, other than to send me an invoice for shipping.... nothing to say it was ok or not... nothing to say what they did or didn't do... Literally zero communication.
I was going to make a video about it at the time, but I was way too angry. I would have said things that could have gotten me in trouble with the law.
Yes... I agree... I have to assume that I just ended up with a dud, and that most of their units are great.... however, their customer service seemed to be beyond dishonest and I could consider some of the stuff they did to be malicious... Or at least "tactically deceptive"
@loweredexpectations4927 I see. Well if vevor has something similar at some point it would be great to see see you do a review on it.
Hope your summer goes well.
1 kPa is approximately the pressure exerted by a 10-g mass resting on a 1-cm2 area. Easy metric math's; 1 bar is 100,000 Pascal or 100 kPa or 0.1MPa or 1 kg-cm2. 1 Atmosphere is 101.3 kPa. But you are not a metric guy and you want "standard" 14.5038 pounds per square inch instead of 1 kilo gram per square centimeter and you now know that gauge shows all the way up to 145 PSI.
I think the problem is, that I grew up with the SAE and metric system. I switch back and forth a lot. If I am measuring something small, I use mm or cm, but if it is smaller than a mm, then I use thousandths of an inch. If it is larger than a few cm, then I use inches, and I also use SAE for wrench sizes or metal thickness. Temperature I'm only really comfortable with C, but cook everything at F... but I just know what to cook it at, and dont' know what 375 or 400 is 😂
With pressure, I understand PSI and read tires and engine compression in this way. I know that 1 bar is about 14 - 15 psi. It totally breaks my mind when I see readings on a gauge that are in decimals. Like, not only do I not know what the thing is, but now I have to know what a fraction of the thing is, that I don't know 😂
Hi Joel,
Thanks for the review!
I recently picked up a new-old-stock HF 40Amp 240v High Frequency start model from a guy on CL (it's no longer being sold) to do some major boat trailer repairs. The downside is, of course, it won't be very portable since it can't work with 120v. It works fine on the 240V 50amp circuit I have set up in my garage for my stick welder. (I made up a 50 foot 4 AWG SO cable extension that allows me to work anywhere in the garage or in front of it outside.)
Question: what are you using to remove moisture from your air? That seems to be one of the biggest killers for the High Frequency start plasma cutting consumables.
I'm going to have to do something about my air supply. I was recently doing a repair on my mower deck, and using the compressed air to blow it off, and there was a LOT of water coming out. That was with the 60 gallon shop compressor in my garage at ambient temperatures (about 60F) using about 100 feet of 3/8 non-rubber hose.
I bought a small in-line desiccant moisture removal device that I picked up at HF for around $7 US$ to put ahead of my plasma cutter, but it won't do the job considering how much moisture was coming out.
How much moisture did you see captured in the trap that vevor supplied?
My compressor is at the back of my garage, and the moisture trap I have near it doesn't pick up much. I think I'll try installing another collection-type moisture trap at the front of my garage and see how much it picks up there. There would be about 30 feet of hose between the compressor and where I would put that moisture trap, so maybe it will be enough distance to catch most of the condensed moisture.... We'll see.
Cheers from Oregon
Philip
Hopefully YT doesn't delete this response....
I have a intricate moisture removal system in my attic.... It consists of a air cooler that is 40 feet of copper pipe, with a fan that turns on when the compressor is powered on. It also has a drain that operates once when the compressor powers on, and then every 45 seconds. It blasts air and moisture out of the lowest spot in the system.
I didn't have any moisture captured at all. In the summer, I do get some bypassing my system, but in the winter it is pretty dry. I have a video on my other channel about my air compressor and the silly air drying set up, haha. I will post the link in another comment.
ua-cam.com/video/zcVRSV8-1ZE/v-deo.html there is also a part 2
I'm guessing the P actually stands for "Pilot," not "High Frequency Start".
... Huh.... That couldn't be any more obvious, eh...
👍
Thanks !
not bad at all for two bills! was it on a dedicated outlet?? I noticed the compressor went off at the same time? wonder if it was just a fluke or are they on the same circuit.
I tried two different outlets and don't think that anything else was running on them at the time. The compressor went out at the same time because it tripped the main breaker to the whole garage, the last time. The first time I think the compressor just turned off because it was full.
The air compressor is on a dedicated 240V circuit.
@@loweredexpectations4927 good to know.... so 220 for the big stuff but 120 works on the small stuff or a remote control breaker LOL
@@TheMamonti1 Haha.... remote control outlet, or out an elastic onit. I read the manual and apparently it requires 50 amps when plugged into 120V .... I don't even know if there is such a thing.... certainly NOT for the little adapter plug they send with it
@@loweredexpectations4927 I think rv parks have them 120v 50amp breaker
@@TheMamonti1 I think they do, but don't they use a standard 120V style outlet.
From what I understand, they are 120V, but they have a 4 conductor plug, like you would have with 240V. They basically run a ground, neutral and then two hots, from two separate breakers ... that way, you can have two separate 120V loads in your RV and not place all the load on one breaker. Kinda confusing.
That's about the size capacitor I want but a DC one....lol
I may be wrong, but I don't think there are AC and DC caps.... I think they are all DC, but are often used in AC circuits.
PS. You can't have mine... and you don't want them anyway, haha
Believe it or not, YT kept deleting my comment because I spelled out the name of the most popular free buy-sell posting site in North America that has the initials CL. Go figure....
I thought it might have been because I spelled out the cheap tool store in the US that has the initials HF, but that wasn't it. I wonder what YT has against craig and his list?
ARE YOU SERIOUS ! Wow... that's ridiculous ... My friend Craig.... he has this list that he uses to sell stuff... lol... what about that ? Hmmmm.
That's so crazy... It's getting to be a bit much... especially because they won't tell you why they are blocking your comment. Patreon made me list my content as 18+ because I was talking about my friend BJ.... they sent me warnings and basically forced me to make changes to my account.
@@loweredexpectations4927
They are training you to just do short smalltalk comments, because it's just not worth the time to type more than "great video" or something alike.
50/50 chance, they'll delete more elaborate comments - and as soon as they start doing so, it's worse every time, as if they are having an eye on you then.
Takes the fun away.
@@werner.x Yeah... in the end they won't need censorship ... they can just have the algorithm delete random comments that are more than 10 words, and people will get sick of putting in the effort. Then you have a perfect system of self censorship where you have trained the population not to say anything meaningful at all.
10:55 ... It looks like a picture of Justin Trudeau to me
Well spoken
Best comment ever !! haha
I should title the video "accurate sketch of JT"
That capacitor shouldn't be more than $20
Yeah. I was having a hard time finding one, then my buddy came over and found some within less than a minute ! .... between $6 and $20
@@loweredexpectations4927 I am in Ontario, now I am thinking of buying one of those plasma cutters...
@@loweredexpectations4927 always the way! i spend an hour online, can't find a decent price for m8 machine screws, my buddy comes over and in five minutes on ebay he's got the parts list for an f22.
@@alainmcin Nice. I grew up in NB and have a brother in Ontario... had a few sisters that were living there. I would say this unit is worth the money. I had a Victor Thermal Dynamics for a few weeks (before it was stolen, and the only thing I noticed different about this is that the consumables are about 20 times cheaper, haha.
NSFW !!
NSFA... not safe for anything.
At 27:10 you put RIN instead of RUN on 120. Delete this comment after you read it,nobody else needs to know.
LOL... I was going to write a comment at the first of the video saying "there will be mistakes in this video, as I am sitting out in the sun while editing"
After weeks of dealing with brokers, lawyers, taxes, basement fix up and other nonsense.... I was dead set on sitting on the sun, even though I couldn't see much from the glare of the sun 🤣
If RIN is the only mistake I made, I am shocked and pleased, haha. Thanks Wallace.
PS... What is the extent of the work "drywall guys" do... like... You start at a fully framed wall / building, put up sheets and mud .... or 🤷♂️ .... I'm guessing to some extent it depends on the guy / business, some do more some do less ? Just asking out of curiosity.
@@loweredexpectations4927 If it is strictly a drywall job, all framing,electrical,and insulation needs to be done first. They should hang,tape,float 2-3 times,then texture if texture is in the bid. Most sheetrockers won't paint, at least around here.
@@wallacefrey6247 OK.... I was mostly wondering if sheetrockers did the mudding too, or if that was a separate crew. I knew a guy, friend of my father, who did mudding, but don't ever remember him talking about drywall.... although, that was 30+ years ago.
@@loweredexpectations4927Drywall finishing can really Suck up time, depending how picky you are. You really need to know when to STOP. 😊
@@loweredexpectations4927here on the north island, ya can't get just a Mudder, they want to to the whole drywall job, start to finish.