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Mine just came in from Hot Spot Airsoft Inc., this paintball marker is amazing. Planning to get all different variations including the revolver and double barrel shotgun.
Awsome!😎👍 I'm loving this pistol too the revolver looks to be a beast. Check out the First Strike Roscoe revolver too it looks great and both can shoot FSR too!👍😎
Really enjoy your videos, extremely well done and informative thank you. I've seen the manual for the US version and have this question. Is this a 1 to 1 replica of the M&P 9 M2.0 full size or the compact? I ask because the T4E manual says the barrel length is 4.0 inches and that only comes in the M&P 9 M2.0 compact. The M&P 9 M2.0 full size has a 4.25" barrel option and NOT a 4.0" barrel, the M&P 9 M2.0 Compact has a 4.0" barrel option and NOT a 4.25" barrel. This matters when ordering a holster where the manufactures have different holsters in the same model depending on whether its a full size with a 4.25" barrel or a compact with a 4.0" barrel . Also the overall dimensions of the real M&P 9 M2.0 are different between the full size and compact.
Hi there, thanks for watching! I'm glad you find them useful. I'm not 100% sure but I believe it is 1:1 replica (or very close to 1:1) of the full size version. T4E try to get them as close to popular duty guns as possible for training. Also looking at the slide design and grip size it certainly looks more comparable to the full size than the compact. I use an omnivore holster with an x300 light, so any of my T4E pistols will work as long as they can hold the x300. The guys at T4E may be able to advise regarding holster sizing their email is information@t4eguns.com Hope that helps 👍😎
Hi there they are all licenced 1:1 replicas of the real versions. My ppq and Glock versions fit the real steel holsters and I believe the m&p 9 does too, hope that helps 😎👍
What's maintaines like beside putting a little drop of oil were the co2 goes????? I saw a video we the mag getting taken apart does that void warranty it was on the mcs usa video??
When I had my ppq apart there was some grease on the slide, but they don't give any advise on stripping down or greasing. They sell maintenance kits for the pistols but they look to be mostly replacement springs. The mag maintenance kits are valve and aluminium parts. I would think it would void the warranty, but it would be hard to tell you had it apart unless you damage it. Hop that help 😎👍
Thanks for the reply what do you do to maintain your pistol??? Was confused about the warranty the give you a kit for the mag but not sure if opening it viods the warranty??
@@GVDRAGONFISTS hi, all I do is put a few drops of oil in the mag where the C02 puncture pin is. Umarex sell a special C02 capsule that has oil in it that you can use every so often, which is what they recommend. I think the mags have a 1 year warranty, which would probably be void if you take it apart 😎👍
I’d love to find out where you saw the US version offers I higher power version. I know there are above and below 7.5 joules versions for the HDR revolver and HDS double barrel shotgun but nothing for any of these T4E pistols. Mine came with the single back strap which didn’t really bother me, and I’ve bought 4 extra mags from different sources and through a crono are all about the same and any extra power would come via the magazine. I’ve read loads on these models but haven’t seen a dickie bird on different power versions, any light you can shed would be appreciated.
Hi Andy, there isn't a seperate higher power model. I suspected that there may have been a slight FPS difference with the models sourced from the USA over the German distributed ones based on the quoted FPS i had seen. I haven't followed up on this yet but hope to confirm soon. Sorry if I implied there was another higher powered version 👍
@@TacticalMagfed Not a problem, was just a bit confused. Am currently on the hunt for an HDS shotgun, will only be 7.5 joules for UK market, however..........
Hi mate just another question is the can you confirm fps different in the USA version. Also is it best to get the USA MAGAZINE for the 355 fps.???? As I take it that the European magazine will be less fps?????
Hi, I haven't been able to compare the US and European versions on a chrono yet. But I think may be the case that the US mags will have a higher FPS. The FPS is controlled by the valve in the mag as far as I know so the US version mag would be needed for higher FPS. When I get my hands on a chrono I should be able to confirm if there is a difference. Hope that helps 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed yes it does thanks mate trying to order one from where you got your I wish they gave a 1 year warranty but they dont. Have you had any issues so far. And what is maintenance like is there anything that needs or should be done???? Cleaning is a given anything else???
@@GVDRAGONFISTS I haven't had any issues with either of my Umarex pistols. They recommend using a special c02 cartridge that has oil in it ever so often. I tend to put a couple of drops of marker oil on the pin that breaks the C02 and that keeps it lubricated 😎
I use mine with my blackhawk omnivore holster. It works with retention when you add a light on the picitinny rail. I can easily swap between my ppq and m&p9 too. I would recommend finding one that has retention on the trigger guard. I couldn't find one in the UK but I'll take a look and post a link if I find one 👍😎
Hi there 😎 I bought mine from modern combat sports UK. They confirmed their stock came from the US and had the back straps in the box. Hope that helps 😎👍
I like the look and feel of .43 pistols, but are there any custom kits for performance? For cosmetics I know you can swap out the base plate for an extended mag look.
Hi, not that I'm aware of, it's mostly the projectiles that improves performance. Dust balls are more accurate and have better range. For target shooting umarex make heavier rounds that are more accurate but cannot be used for gameplay. 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed let me know if you come across anything! I just looked up the freelance base plates but I’m not sure those would fit onto the mag for the .43 cals
Hi, which cap do you mean? The small cap on the magazine spring? As far as I know they can only be purchased as part of a magazine maintenance kit or with a new magazine as they come as a spare. Hope that helps?
@@rodrokhornplayer944 haha of course, how did I not get that lol it is a Rothco "Death spade" cap. I picked it up on sale randomly in the UK. I found some on Amazon in the US and have likned to it in the video discription if that helps 😎
Hi Mate, You will be keeping at doing this mag comparison with a chrono please, won't you? For me as a German who has bought a German version, it is so dishonest what Umarex did here. And to make it worse, there is no legal issues with the 355 FPS version in Germany, first of all because of the F in the pentagon marking, and second up to 7.5 Joule are allowed here. Outrageous!
Hi buddy, I now have a chrono 😎 so hope to be able to get a video together in the New Year on this. I'm pretty sure that it is purely down to the manufacturing process. I think T4E manufacture them in the USA and Umarex in the EU. What FPS does your version state on the box?
@@TacticalMagfed bro I really want to know this too waiting for your findings before I pull the trigger and buy one. Spoke to mcs uk they are saying there no driffrents in FPS. I believe there is. But still thinking which one to get if I get the European version I dont get the better fps and no back strap. However the warranty will be easier if I ever need to get thinks sorted. If the usa version and mags are better I think I'll go for that one. hoping to see your videos on it or if you do happen to test it out before then and let us know would be most appreciated.
Great review and good info about the American and European differences. I have the European version and it does not come with 'backstraps' or the spare spring back stop. I have already lost mine and now unable to source one. Is there somewhere I can buy one without having to buy the whole mag?
Thanks, glad you liked it!👍 If I can find the part number I'll post it. Umarex have maintenance kits for the pistols and mags. The part you are looking should be in one of those kits. The kits are only about £10 cheaper than a new mag though. It might be possible to get a 3d printed one? If I can find anything I'll post it. Hope that helps 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed ah that will be very kind. That little piece is holding the spring together and I cannot find it anywhere unless Ofcourse I buy a new mag. Thanks again for a great review with some real pointers on what to look out for.👍
@@SuperBadger999 Hi, I think the part number is H6. But I can't find anywhere that sells it on it's own. There is a maintainence kit product code 2.4767.9 which I have found in the UK here www.landwarriorairsoft.com/paintball-markers-accessories-c353/paintballs-magazines-etc-c355/umarex-service-kit-for-m-p9c-m2-0-t4e-paintball-marker-p10963 which includes 1. I have just checked and my additional mag that I got had a spare H6 with it. So the best option long term may be to get an additional mag and use the spare H6 to fix you current mag? No one is making 3D parts for the M&P as far as I can tell. Hope that helps😎
@@TacticalMagfed thank you ever so much. That is a great idea and thanks for the link. Appreciate you taking time to come back to me with some options🙌
Hi there, fortunately I found a supplier in the UK that stocked the US version. I called around and modern combat sports UK stocked the US version with the back straps included. Hope that helps 👍😎
Hey buddy I got mine wait for a while ordered from the same people you ordered yours from I had ask for the USA version as well . I got the back straps but by gun box lables dont look like yours plus the books/ manual saying made in Germany I will be pretty pissed off if they gave me a EUROPEAN one when I have asked for a usa one will call them and ask tho
Hi there, the European version doesn't come with the back straps. They would have had to put the backstraps in at additional cost to themselves. They may have had issues getting stock from the states or Umarex may have switched production to Europe? The USA version is actually produced in Taiwan so there may be an issue getting them? Out of interest what is the velocity rating stated in the manual? It may be quoted in m/s?
I can only apologies for repeatedly saying Weston! I did a whole video on mag pouches and kept saying holders? Funny things happen when the camera starts rolling sometimes 😱
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Thank you for the info regarding the differences in the two models. Very interesting and informative!
Thanks, I found out the hard way and thought I'd get the info out there 😎👍
Mine just came in from Hot Spot Airsoft Inc., this paintball marker is amazing. Planning to get all different variations including the revolver and double barrel shotgun.
Awsome!😎👍 I'm loving this pistol too the revolver looks to be a beast. Check out the First Strike Roscoe revolver too it looks great and both can shoot FSR too!👍😎
Really enjoy your videos, extremely well done and informative thank you. I've seen the manual for the US version and have this question.
Is this a 1 to 1 replica of the M&P 9 M2.0 full size or the compact?
I ask because the T4E manual says the barrel length is 4.0 inches and that only comes in the M&P 9 M2.0 compact. The M&P 9 M2.0 full size has a 4.25" barrel option and NOT a 4.0" barrel, the M&P 9 M2.0 Compact has a 4.0" barrel option and NOT a 4.25" barrel. This matters when ordering a holster where the manufactures have different holsters in the same model depending on whether its a full size with a 4.25" barrel or a compact with a 4.0" barrel . Also the overall dimensions of the real M&P 9 M2.0 are different between the full size and compact.
Hi there, thanks for watching! I'm glad you find them useful.
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it is 1:1 replica (or very close to 1:1) of the full size version. T4E try to get them as close to popular duty guns as possible for training.
Also looking at the slide design and grip size it certainly looks more comparable to the full size than the compact.
I use an omnivore holster with an x300 light, so any of my T4E pistols will work as long as they can hold the x300.
The guys at T4E may be able to advise regarding holster sizing their email is information@t4eguns.com
Hope that helps 👍😎
Do they fit thr holsters for the real steel versions?
Hi there they are all licenced 1:1 replicas of the real versions. My ppq and Glock versions fit the real steel holsters and I believe the m&p 9 does too, hope that helps 😎👍
What's maintaines like beside putting a little drop of oil were the co2 goes????? I saw a video we the mag getting taken apart does that void warranty it was on the mcs usa video??
When I had my ppq apart there was some grease on the slide, but they don't give any advise on stripping down or greasing. They sell maintenance kits for the pistols but they look to be mostly replacement springs. The mag maintenance kits are valve and aluminium parts. I would think it would void the warranty, but it would be hard to tell you had it apart unless you damage it. Hop that help 😎👍
Thanks for the reply what do you do to maintain your pistol??? Was confused about the warranty the give you a kit for the mag but not sure if opening it viods the warranty??
@@GVDRAGONFISTS hi, all I do is put a few drops of oil in the mag where the C02 puncture pin is. Umarex sell a special C02 capsule that has oil in it that you can use every so often, which is what they recommend. I think the mags have a 1 year warranty, which would probably be void if you take it apart 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed thank you for the info nice to know about the co2 I'll ask if mcs uk if they sell that co2 hopefully they do thank you mate.
No problem 😎 had a quick look on Amazon UK and Walther make a C02 & oil cartridge that you can buy in packs of 10 x12g that should do the same 👍
I’d love to find out where you saw the US version offers I higher power version. I know there are above and below 7.5 joules versions for the HDR revolver and HDS double barrel shotgun but nothing for any of these T4E pistols. Mine came with the single back strap which didn’t really bother me, and I’ve bought 4 extra mags from different sources and through a crono are all about the same and any extra power would come via the magazine. I’ve read loads on these models but haven’t seen a dickie bird on different power versions, any light you can shed would be appreciated.
Hi Andy, there isn't a seperate higher power model. I suspected that there may have been a slight FPS difference with the models sourced from the USA over the German distributed ones based on the quoted FPS i had seen. I haven't followed up on this yet but hope to confirm soon. Sorry if I implied there was another higher powered version 👍
@@TacticalMagfed Not a problem, was just a bit confused. Am currently on the hunt for an HDS shotgun, will only be 7.5 joules for UK market, however..........
@@andywing8330 nice, I think there is an upgrade\mod to increase the power. But be careful you don't break any firearms laws! 👍
Hi mate just another question is the can you confirm fps different in the USA version. Also is it best to get the USA MAGAZINE for the 355 fps.????
As I take it that the European magazine will be less fps?????
Hi, I haven't been able to compare the US and European versions on a chrono yet. But I think may be the case that the US mags will have a higher FPS. The FPS is controlled by the valve in the mag as far as I know so the US version mag would be needed for higher FPS. When I get my hands on a chrono I should be able to confirm if there is a difference. Hope that helps 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed yes it does thanks mate trying to order one from where you got your I wish they gave a 1 year warranty but they dont. Have you had any issues so far. And what is maintenance like is there anything that needs or should be done???? Cleaning is a given anything else???
@@GVDRAGONFISTS I haven't had any issues with either of my Umarex pistols. They recommend using a special c02 cartridge that has oil in it ever so often. I tend to put a couple of drops of marker oil on the pin that breaks the C02 and that keeps it lubricated 😎
@@TacticalMagfed thanks bro for all the advice you got yourself a sub
@@GVDRAGONFISTS thanks, glad I could help 👍
What’s a good holster for this bad boy?
I use mine with my blackhawk omnivore holster. It works with retention when you add a light on the picitinny rail. I can easily swap between my ppq and m&p9 too. I would recommend finding one that has retention on the trigger guard. I couldn't find one in the UK but I'll take a look and post a link if I find one 👍😎
Do you sale the USA version??? Or do you know where I can get the USA version in The UK????
Hi there 😎 I bought mine from modern combat sports UK. They confirmed their stock came from the US and had the back straps in the box. Hope that helps 😎👍
Amazon sells it for the USA version👍🏽
@@rulerofall2320 that's good to know 😎 thanks for the update buddy 👍
I like the look and feel of .43 pistols, but are there any custom kits for performance? For cosmetics I know you can swap out the base plate for an extended mag look.
Hi, not that I'm aware of, it's mostly the projectiles that improves performance. Dust balls are more accurate and have better range. For target shooting umarex make heavier rounds that are more accurate but cannot be used for gameplay. 😎👍
What base plate makes it look like an extended mag?
@@robkukla2054 I went online looking for Walther PPQ M2 upgrades for the actual pistol and stumbled upon Taylor Freelances base plates.
@@robkukla2054 I was thinking the same, maybe a 3D printed option online? I may have to take a look in to this 😎
@@TacticalMagfed let me know if you come across anything! I just looked up the freelance base plates but I’m not sure those would fit onto the mag for the .43 cals
where find this cap?
Hi, which cap do you mean? The small cap on the magazine spring? As far as I know they can only be purchased as part of a magazine maintenance kit or with a new magazine as they come as a spare. Hope that helps?
@@TacticalMagfed your cap used in the video....
@@rodrokhornplayer944 haha of course, how did I not get that lol it is a Rothco "Death spade" cap. I picked it up on sale randomly in the UK. I found some on Amazon in the US and have likned to it in the video discription if that helps 😎
Hi Mate,
You will be keeping at doing this mag comparison with a chrono please, won't you?
For me as a German who has bought a German version, it is so dishonest what Umarex did here. And to make it worse, there is no legal issues with the 355 FPS version in Germany, first of all because of the F in the pentagon marking, and second up to 7.5 Joule are allowed here. Outrageous!
Hi buddy, I now have a chrono 😎 so hope to be able to get a video together in the New Year on this. I'm pretty sure that it is purely down to the manufacturing process. I think T4E manufacture them in the USA and Umarex in the EU. What FPS does your version state on the box?
@@TacticalMagfed bro I really want to know this too waiting for your findings before I pull the trigger and buy one. Spoke to mcs uk they are saying there no driffrents in FPS. I believe there is. But still thinking which one to get if I get the European version I dont get the better fps and no back strap. However the warranty will be easier if I ever need to get thinks sorted. If the usa version and mags are better I think I'll go for that one. hoping to see your videos on it or if you do happen to test it out before then and let us know would be most appreciated.
@ Thomas B Hi mate I would like to know what fps is on your EU version box to thanks
@@TacticalMagfed and @GV DRAGONFISTS: There is no FPS statement on the box (I only got the lower sticker). Manual says
@@GVDRAGONFISTS See the answer I just gave to Tactical Magfed ;)
Great review and good info about the American and European differences. I have the European version and it does not come with 'backstraps' or the spare spring back stop. I have already lost mine and now unable to source one. Is there somewhere I can buy one without having to buy the whole mag?
Thanks, glad you liked it!👍 If I can find the part number I'll post it. Umarex have maintenance kits for the pistols and mags. The part you are looking should be in one of those kits. The kits are only about £10 cheaper than a new mag though. It might be possible to get a 3d printed one? If I can find anything I'll post it. Hope that helps 😎👍
@@TacticalMagfed ah that will be very kind. That little piece is holding the spring together and I cannot find it anywhere unless Ofcourse I buy a new mag. Thanks again for a great review with some real pointers on what to look out for.👍
@@SuperBadger999 Hi, I think the part number is H6. But I can't find anywhere that sells it on it's own. There is a maintainence kit product code 2.4767.9 which I have found in the UK here www.landwarriorairsoft.com/paintball-markers-accessories-c353/paintballs-magazines-etc-c355/umarex-service-kit-for-m-p9c-m2-0-t4e-paintball-marker-p10963 which includes 1. I have just checked and my additional mag that I got had a spare H6 with it. So the best option long term may be to get an additional mag and use the spare H6 to fix you current mag? No one is making 3D parts for the M&P as far as I can tell. Hope that helps😎
@@TacticalMagfed thank you ever so much. That is a great idea and thanks for the link. Appreciate you taking time to come back to me with some options🙌
No problem, happy to help! It was a great question and may help others out too, thanks for posting! 👍😎
Did you have to get yours as a special order from the U.S? i was hoping to pick one of these up with all the extras, backstraps/springs.
Hi there, fortunately I found a supplier in the UK that stocked the US version. I called around and modern combat sports UK stocked the US version with the back straps included. Hope that helps 👍😎
Ok thanks for the reply, great review too very clear and all the info👍🏻
@@TacticalMagfed Do the UK spec mags fire the rubber training balls ok as they do not come with additional springs?
No problem buddy, thanks for the feedback I really appreciate it 👍
Hi, the UK mag I purchased came with the rubber ball spring and a spare spring holder/guide so should fire the rubber balls no problem 😎
Hey buddy I got mine wait for a while ordered from the same people you ordered yours from I had ask for the USA version as well . I got the back straps but by gun box lables dont look like yours plus the books/ manual saying made in Germany I will be pretty pissed off if they gave me a EUROPEAN one when I have asked for a usa one will call them and ask tho
Hi there, the European version doesn't come with the back straps. They would have had to put the backstraps in at additional cost to themselves. They may have had issues getting stock from the states or Umarex may have switched production to Europe? The USA version is actually produced in Taiwan so there may be an issue getting them? Out of interest what is the velocity rating stated in the manual? It may be quoted in m/s?
@@TacticalMagfed I'll have a look and let you know
@@TacticalMagfed 7,5J: 110 m/s
@@GVDRAGONFISTS awesome thanks 👍
@@GVDRAGONFISTS thanks for this, I'll use it in my comparison 👍😎
there is aa glock 18, its the one i want too
The Umarex TPM1 is the nearest glockalike just wish it was officially licensed! 👍
Like your content ... but that music in the back tho 😬
Oops, thanks for the feedback. Too loud or just repetitive?🤔👍
Tactical Magfed would prefer voice only ...
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I can only apologies for repeatedly saying Weston! I did a whole video on mag pouches and kept saying holders? Funny things happen when the camera starts rolling sometimes 😱
I’m a little sad for him he’s never held a real handgun/ other than that it seems huge or is it his tiny English hands 🤔👋🏼
Haha guilty never held a real handgun and I do have tiny hands 😎 it should be 1:1 replica, it's probably my micro mitts making it look huge 👍