Umarex Walther PPQ vs Smith & Wesson M&P9 | Paintball Pistols

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  • @buddhasmurfy
    @buddhasmurfy 3 роки тому +6

    Just bought the PPQ.
    Very happy so far

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Awesome, glad to hear that 😎👍

    • @KAANIBOY
      @KAANIBOY 3 роки тому

      What the hell does so far mean ? Shpuld it break or get jammed after a year ? I want it but nobody really recommends it with heart if you know what i mean...

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      @@KAANIBOY I'm sure they just mean that it's new and hasn't been put through its paces yet. Couldn't be happier with mine it's awesome 😎👍

  • @AnneewakeeChampions
    @AnneewakeeChampions 2 роки тому +4

    Personally for me I love the look of that Walther PPQ.

  • @Octowhat
    @Octowhat 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the vid!!! I just got a PPQ. I was running my FSC because it is .68, and I shoot First Strikes exclusively, but every outing with my FSC, there are breaks and gun jams when I need it to work. I had enough. Every mag has a problem. 1 in six shots, is a dud. I didn't want to use something that shoots hot (+280) and this PPQ does. My teammate shot me in a CQB scrimmage, and the shot to the pinky finger was in pain for a year. I never want to have someone think about me a year later because I tagged them. Ouch. Well, I have a digital chrono and will burn off some gas and get this right before taking the field.
    And the Olight PL Mini 2 Valkyrie gun light is so small there is one more space remaining on the under barrel picatinny. It is that small. My teammates don't even know I have this yet. Cheers!

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi there, I'm glad you liked it buddy 👍 I find that I have to keep the FPS of my fsc lower 245-255 to keep it more reliable and get 3 good mags out if a co2. The PPQ is awesome, hope you like it, dry fireing about 10 shots should bring the FPS down on each mag to keep the site you're playing at happy. Thanks your support 😎👍

  • @zayshootah4657
    @zayshootah4657 2 роки тому +1

    Which one packs a bigger punch i have the glock but i want another for a back up

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +1

      Hi there, I think the original PPQ packs a slightly bigger punch. When they first came out they were not intended for actual paintball gameplay and were putting out higher joules than the newer models. That being said I think that after the first mag worth of Co2 has been shot they level out and are closer in joules output. I'm not sure if the newer production of PPQ's have been nerfed to be closer to the newer model's power, But the older ones were known to be hot (FPS-wise) for the first mag. I don't think you would notice that much when being shot unless you were close. Hope that helps 👍

  • @fernandezadam6546
    @fernandezadam6546 2 роки тому +1

    Hello, you knew ways to improve the accuracy or power of the Umarex T4E M&P9 ? Sorry for m'y Bad english I'm french 😅

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +2

      Hi there, your English is better than my French! There are no upgrades for accuracy, the better quality of the paint the better the accuracy tends to be. They are only really accurate to about 5m. All of the power is in the magazine and there are no official power upgrades. I have heard of people drilling out the valve in the mag but it doesn't really improve the power. It can also cause the FPS to be really inconsistent. I wouldn't bother as you could ruin the mag.

  • @deionhurley2091
    @deionhurley2091 Рік тому +1

    I was wandering which one is lighter I I have just bought my first airsoft gun and it's the smith& Wesson M&P .43 M 2.0 and I love it but now My wife is wanting one but she is handicapped she can only use her right hand in

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  Рік тому +1

      Hi there, I would say that the PPQ is heavier. Most of the weight in these pistols is from the magazines and the PPQ has a much chunkier and heavier magazine. Please note that these versions are for paintball and not airsoft. I'm not familiar with the weight of the airsoft versions. Hope that helps 😎👍

  • @uihdqsmfnsdvqep
    @uihdqsmfnsdvqep 2 роки тому +1

    I am looking to get one of these pistols so i can do roomclearing / drill excercises however i live in belgium so a normal firearms would be a nightmare to get and use for these kind of things so a side by side comparisen of these two pistols is really usefull for me.
    I just have one more question, i was wondering wich one of these pistols is the best one range and accuracy wise.
    If someone could tell me i would really apriciate it 🙏

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +2

      Hi there, range and accuracy is subjective with these markers. They are great fun and reasonably accurate up to 10 meters. Beyond that they are less accurate depending on the projectiles you use. Effective range for a paintball is up to 10m if you are plinking targets chalk balls can give you a bit more range and rubber rounds are slightly heavier and give longer range. All of these pistols have the same internals and put out similar FPS. The quality and consistency of your paint or projectiles is a better indicator for range and accuracy. Hope that helps 😎👍

    • @uihdqsmfnsdvqep
      @uihdqsmfnsdvqep 2 роки тому +1

      @@TacticalMagfed helps a lot, thanks 🙏🙏
      I guess imma just buy the one that feels most comfortable in my hands then.

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +2

      @@uihdqsmfnsdvqep no problem buddy. The PPQ best suits if you have smaller hands. If you have large hands you might find the Glock or M&P9 a better fit as you can get back straps to get a better grip\fit.

  • @Rdav1
    @Rdav1 4 роки тому +2

    thanks for the head to head , and the timestamps

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  4 роки тому +1

      You're welcome 😎 I've been adding then to my recent videos to help viewers find what they need 👍

  • @pcxdrone
    @pcxdrone 3 роки тому +2

    I see many complaints regarding the mag release button snapping on the M&P. Do you have any experience with mag release problems on the M&P? This is the only thing holding me back from making purchase of the M&P

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, no problems so far. I just had a look to compare it with the PPQ. It is a different design which is slightly slimmer than the PPQ. They are both plastic and it's a part that gets abused the more you are likely to use it. Mine looks ok and no sign of damage to date. Hope that helps 😎👍

    • @bandeeto7972
      @bandeeto7972 2 роки тому

      Funny enough I bought one and got used to holding the mag release when changing mags, I do have that issue too.

  • @GVDRAGONFISTS
    @GVDRAGONFISTS 4 роки тому +1

    Ahhh I was wondering when you would do your next video awesome mate

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks buddy, glad to liked it! 😎👍

  • @turijdragonfly
    @turijdragonfly Рік тому +1

    Salve, complimenti per il tuo video 🎉 volevo acquistare un cal.43 e preferirei la S&W perché vedo si puo montare il redhot....penso anche nella versione con carrello blu

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  Рік тому +1

      Ciao, grazie per aver guardato! Felice di sapere che il video ti è piaciuto! 😎👍

  • @tokkyofaison5390
    @tokkyofaison5390 3 роки тому +1

    Hi can u tell me if it's common for the walther ppq to jam or not firer.? Fully load mag fire fine a few mags but then will not have to wait few sec sometimes then it will shoot .! Donknow why using nothing but rubberballs

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, when you get to 20+ shots from a mag the co2 will be getting low. As long as the slide is cocking back fully it should fire. If you have to manually cock it you may have issues as there may not be enough gas to activate the valve? 3 mags or 20-24 shots is a decent average for a single co2 before you have to change it. Hope that helps 👍😎

  • @Jketernity
    @Jketernity Рік тому +2

    Any good for self defence ?

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  Рік тому +1

      Hi, I've only used them with paintballs at magfed games\events. If you were to use paintballs against a determined and potentially armed intruder it may give you some time to run away, but certainly wouldn't stop them. They would be more beneficial as a training tool for practice in areas where you couldn't use the real versions.

  • @啊William
    @啊William 3 роки тому +1

    In the uk, do I need ukara like airsoft so that I can purchase it

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Hi there, in the UK they are classified as paintball markers. Legally they are no different to buying a paintball marker so a UKARA registration is not required. If you're over 18 and buy one from a paintball store you'll be ok. If you try to get one from an Airsoft shop they will most likely want a UKARA id, weird but true. Hope that helps 👍

    • @啊William
      @啊William 3 роки тому +2

      @@TacticalMagfed is weird, because for airsoft if you try to purchase a gun with out twotone, you need ukara, but for paintball gun, even is full black, you don’t need one

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I think it is to do with when the original organisers of the sports in the UK agreed regulations with the home office. Airsoft put tighter buying restrictions due to their more realistic appearance (back then). I'm looking to get my UKARA registration too as a backup and possibly get into some gbb Airsoft at some point.

  • @dobbo4596
    @dobbo4596 3 роки тому +2

    What holster would you recommend for the M&P?

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, It depends what your looking to do with the pistol. If you want to have a flash light on your rail you would want to look at a compatible holster like the blackhawk omnivore (I have done a video on my setup). If you are going to keep it standard with no light, I would recommend getting a level 2 retention holster. These are holsters that have a system to retain the pistol which needs to be activated to pull the pistol out. Basically your trigger finger depresses a button releasing the pistol to be drawn out. This prevents the pistol falling out in game and you don't have to faff about with velcro like some of the universal holsters I've seen. I'll take a look and link some in the description, hope that helps 👍😎

    • @travissebren
      @travissebren 2 роки тому

      “ Depring “ on Amazon … I have a “ Firehawk “ green laser mounted on the under rail . The Depring holster has an extra mag slot on front of holster . L/R handed and comes with both 1 “ and 1.5 inch “ tac belt straps “ for about 25 $ … I love mine ..: wear it daily

  • @jrhjrh9372
    @jrhjrh9372 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the comparison, do they both accept quick piercing magazine?

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +1

      Hi there, both models have a quick piercing mag option available. The magazines are not interchangeable between models, so it will require different mags for each model. Hope that helps 👍😎

  • @zayshootah4657
    @zayshootah4657 3 роки тому +2

    Which pistol is smaller ?

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Hi there, both pistols are very similar in size. But the PPQ is slightly smaller I would say. Hope that helps 😎👍

  • @chaplinpb5699
    @chaplinpb5699 3 роки тому +2

    just bought the m&p love it so far i would like to see how much the pistol can get disassembled if that's possible. i was considering painting the barrel and customising the slide. also if i can paint the trigger.

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Hi there, the m&p strips down in much the same way as the PPQ. There are four pins to remove from the grip frame and then the trigger and barrel lift up and out of the grip frame. The slide can be completely removed and painted no problem. The outer barrel could also be painted too. As long as you are careful the slide could be modified, but make sure you don't mess with any of the guide\grooves the slide uses to connect to the grip frame. I haven't had take mine apart yet but I'll do a video if\when I do. Hope that helps 👍😎

    • @chaplinpb5699
      @chaplinpb5699 3 роки тому +1

      @@TacticalMagfed yeah that's some great info thanks, think I'll probably just hydro dip the slide then and paint barrel etc

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      @@chaplinpb5699 That sounds like a great idea. I may have to do something with mine too 😉

  • @stokie1035
    @stokie1035 3 роки тому +1

    Hi all just started playing with air guns more so with paintball markers but I'm clueless on the law here in the UK 🇬🇧 I have just got my self the hdr 50 7.5 joules what ever that means been told 7.5 is OK for that gun but I don't understand it all ..my question is umarex Have come out with a new gun the umarex hdx 68 pump shotgun and have it in 7.5 and 16 joules what I like to know is can I have the 16 joules one in the UK or will I get in trouble having the 16 joules 🇬🇧 and all so with paintball markers is it OK to use rubber balls in the UK with the paintball gun I'm desperately need the right answer as I don't want to be in trouble with the law or fancy going prison lol ..so is it OK to gave the 16 joules ..umarex hdx pump shotgun...and can you use rubber ball in paintball markers ?? Or is it only just paintballs hope you can help thanks

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, this is a big subject and I probably can't answer everything 100%. I'm not a legal expert so make sure you get the best advice possible before you do anything. As far as i'm aware if you can purchase it from a legitimate shop in the UK it should be legal to own. If the shop owner will not sell it to you without a licence UKARA for airsoft gear or firearms certificate for air powered guns over the required limits. However the power of the paintball marker\pistol\shotgun is one thing. The fact is that it is being sold as a paintball marker or training tool depending on what you get. If you are going to shoot anything other than paintballs you will need to be very careful as this is where it gets very complicated. Technically as soon as you fire a solid projectile it's no longer being used as intended. Fireing rubber balls at targets with the 7.5 joules pistols should be ok. I'm not sure about the 16 joules versions you would need to calculate the muzzle velocity of the rounds (the heavier they are the higher it will be) if you do step into FAC territory then you would indeed be breaking the law. Check this video out which is very informative regarding the law on air powered limits in the UK ua-cam.com/video/9HTZT2OdKwE/v-deo.html My advice is to shoot whatever the manufacture reccomends and stay safe. Hope this helps 😎👍

    • @stokie1035
      @stokie1035 3 роки тому

      @Keith Grout I have the hdr 60 7.5 joules and I have ordered the new umarex hdx pump shotgun in 16j had mixed options some saying with the new hdx in 16j you can use rubber balls and some saying it's a no no not really got it for self defense but will if need to just for use in back garden really

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      @Keith Grout thanks for the info 😎👍

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      @Keith Grout much appreciated. The more information people can find the better decisions we can make. The last thing anyone wants to do is to break the firearms act. Thanks for the heads up on the over powered pistol's 👍

    • @glecas
      @glecas 3 роки тому

      @Keith Grout I have the HDP 50 and really like it, but i would love to have the ability to quickly reload/switch magazine like with the PPQ. Would you say that the PPQ is effective and realiable as home defense? Maybe a good "extra side-arm" to go with the HDP 50?

  • @BConText
    @BConText 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for Video ! nicely done , unfortunately they are out of stock !

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Hi there, thanks for the feedback 👍 yeah the stock of paintball gear is hard to come by at the moment. I had notification that modern combat sports in the UK has had a restock of Umarex pistols recently and I've seen some on Amazon in the US, but they go fast! Thanks for your support 👍😎

  • @jordanwalker2000
    @jordanwalker2000 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great content. Do you have any comments or thoughts on long term durability between the two, or the platform in general? I am considering selling my Tipx and picking one of these up. Thanks.

    • @cunnyfred9562
      @cunnyfred9562 4 роки тому +1

      Please don't sell your Tipx or any paintball marker that you have. They are all becoming very scarce = out of stock. Just buy a new marker without selling any of your existing stuff, if you can afford to do so.

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  4 роки тому +2

      Hi buddy thanks for the great feedback 👍 based on the maintenance kits available I think it is mostly springs that will require replacing. I generally rack the slide back rather than use the slide release to reduce wear on the slide, but it hasn't been a problem to date. I agree with the previous comment try to avoid selling your markers the tipx and Umarex pistols are completely different. The tipx operates more like a regular marker and has more range, and can be used a a primary. The Umarex pistols are great at close quarters and as secondary pistols. Both have a place in your collection! Hope that helps 😎

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, thanks for commenting 👍 completely agree, keep hold of your markers!

    • @jordanwalker2000
      @jordanwalker2000 4 роки тому +1

      @@TacticalMagfed @cunny fred - Thank you for the feedback, I will consider the information and recommendations here and act accordingly. My primary is an MCS Hurricane, so I use the TipX as a secondary, but find it a bit larger than I would like - hence the consideration to switch. But, I appreciate the suggestion to hold onto it, as the tipx is a very versatile marker.

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  4 роки тому +1

      No problem buddy 👍 let us know what you go for 😎

  • @paulhurley3612
    @paulhurley3612 3 роки тому +3

    The M&P would be more attractive if it said .40 or .45 instead of 9 (9mm)... Edit: I'd of even preferred them to put .43 just bc the barrel doesn't match size wise so I'd go with the PPQ for realism Imho... #StaySafe & #StayBlessed 😎👍

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Hi, the .45 is a popular version in the real steel world 👍 I imagine that the licence to make the replica from S&W maybe limited the trade marks and decals? Thanks for commenting stay safe buddy 👍😎

    • @paulhurley3612
      @paulhurley3612 3 роки тому +1

      @@TacticalMagfed Definitely makes sense... Subbed... 👊😎

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      @@paulhurley3612 awesome! Welcome aboard 😎💪

    • @paulhurley3612
      @paulhurley3612 3 роки тому

      @@TacticalMagfed 😎👍

  • @mikehernedez6070
    @mikehernedez6070 3 роки тому

    What's the price on a TV Q

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому

      Hi there, the PPQ is around $189-$219 in the US. Hope that helps 👍😎

  • @pcxdrone
    @pcxdrone 3 роки тому +1

    Overall reliability. Which of these two is most reliable through your experience?

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      Hi there, I've owned the PPQ about a year longer than the M&P so the PPQ has been used more to date. Apart from how they look they are built in a very similar way with the same alloy and polymer components. I haven't had any issues with either and have no concerns about reliability. One thing I would say is that spare parts for the PPQ are easier to find if you do need them, probably because that have been in use for a few years now. Hope that helps 😎👍

  • @the_lomax
    @the_lomax 3 роки тому +1

    I was thinking these would be awesome in 50 cal first strike

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, having shaped rounds would be great. The only downside would be you would probably lose 1 or 2 rounds capacity. I would like to see an after market magazine that could hold 12 rounds! 😎👍

    • @the_lomax
      @the_lomax 3 роки тому +1

      @@TacticalMagfed Im actually interested to see if First Strike release a T15 50 cal. The only thing i wonder is what is the range on the lighter projectile at the around 290 FPS mark and how badly they get knocked around by the wind.... I also wonder if you could step up the over 300fps Because it is a smaller lighter projectile than the .68

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  3 роки тому +1

      I think a .50 t15 would be interesting. It would give an opportunity to have closer to 30rnd mags. My guess would be that the .50 rounds would not drop off as fast as the heavier .68 rounds. I would think that you would loose range as it is a lighter round, unless the FPS was increased to match the joules equivalent to the .68 round. It's an interesting point you have raised 😎👍

  • @travissebren
    @travissebren 2 роки тому +1

    The mag release on the S&W IS reversible !

    • @TacticalMagfed
      @TacticalMagfed  2 роки тому +2

      Awsome, thanks for the update. That will help answer that for the viewers!