so this loco started as an already bizzare p2, got turned into the controversial thompson a2, and got minorly fixed by peppercorn, only to get preserved with tons of name changes along the way, wow.
Its confusing but this is a peppercorn A2, and there is one preserved... 'Blue Peter' 60532 Thompson converted some Gresley p2s and v2s, made a mess by making them both Pacifics (A2/1 and A2/2) and then started making them Pacifics from scratch based on these, designated A2/3.. these all had the extended frames due to his belief that the middle Con rod and the outside con rods should be the same length , they flexed and broke and were strong but rubbish... Peppercorn modified the A2/3 design and created the A1 and A2, and it is this A2 that you have here :)
The whole A2 business was started by Thompson's jealousy of Gresley. First he mangled up the final batch of V2s, turning them into the A2/1, which only added steam-leakage problems and made a longer locomotive. Then he made a botch of the P2s by converting them into Pacifics that weren't good enough for the Edinburgh-Aberdeen line they were designed for, (it could have been said that the new Pacifics were designed around their con rods). The A2/3s were the best of the Thompson bunch, but still suffered from that ridiculously long chassis, with the outside cylinders set well back à la Swindon. Don't forget his vindictive destruction of the very first Gresley Pacific, No4470 'Great Northern', turned into possibly the ugliest locomotive ever to run in this country (including Bulleid's Q1). Peppercorn, saddled with already cast 6'2" drivers, rapidly rebuilt the chassis, turning his own A2 into a highly successful locomotive; however, even these weren't as versatile as the V2, nor, due to their relatively small drivers, as quick as the Gresley's Pacifics or Pep's own A1s.
Good fair review Sam. One has survived 532 Blue Peter and back in the 80's I had a ride behind her when she was visiting the Seven Valley. And re-the Thompson / Peppercorn debate. Thompsons A2 started out with two seperate designs. There was the A2/1 which consisted of four locomotives, started as Gresley V2 2-6-2's, but re-designed as pacifics to 'beef up' the design and over come some of the V2s short comings such as issues with the leading pony truck. These were followed by the A2/2's which were rebuilds of Gresleys, good looking but sadly flawed P2 2-8-2s, which were causing no end of issues to the LNER's traffic division and needed to be delt with sharpish. While is was happening Peppercorn, who was Thompsons assistant, was using the lessons learned from the rebuild batches to develop a new standard 'light' pacific. These locos differed from the Thompson A2s in a number of ways including a shorter front boogie, a slightly different spacing of the driving wheels and changes to the cab, firebox and smokebox design. In effect they used the best ideas of both Gresley and Thompson, and as they appeared after Thompsons retirement and differed somewhere from his A2 rebuilds they were given the class designation A2/3 and credited to Peppercorn. Although they were mainly 'light' pacifics for mixed traffic work, they were competent locos, capable of 100mph running and members of the class based at York often filled in for failed A1s, A3s and A4s with much success. It was the rebuilt A2/1, A2/2 that issues with the wheelbase not the A2/3, but that was cos Thompson was working with pre-existing designs and was one of the issues that Peppercorn was tasked to overcome. Keep up the good work Jon
Thanks very much Jon, glad you liked it! And thanks very much for the handy info on that - that definitely makes things clearer, much appreciated! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
What I will say regarding the inside valve gear is that the Pep (and Thompson) Pacifics had divided drive, meaning that although the outside cylinders drove the centre drivers, the inside drove the leading axle: as a result, the motion is pretty deep within the frames at the point shown. Unless on is extremely close to the prototype, one will see very little except a hole (which should have been modelled, I agree.
A1 at 17:06, odd one out is the LMS Duchess/Coronation at 18:11, Peppercorn A1 Tornado at 18:38, Gresley A4 at 20:50 and 21:43. Good video as always Sam. Bachmann really needs to up their game a little it seems.
Got a A2 myself one of the LNER batch with british railways on the tender great runner smooth performance and amazing strength hauls 8 coaches on a hilly layout easy
Your A2 is definitely a bit older than the one I purchased last year. I bought the 120+ quid Pearl Diver in BR green late, and my model has tender connections, a much more detailed cab including a brown cab floor, I belive small roof slats (can't remember if they move), and tender pickups as well as a 21pin chip with possibility for sound. Glad you finally got an A2 though. Definitely one of my all time favorites. One thing about quality control though, I don't know if this is Bachmann's fault or Hattons', but my A2 had the small plastic piece on the tender where the drawbar connects broken in the box. I did have the model chipped, so my theory is that Hattons' broke it, but a good amount of glue fixed it.
Hi Josh - ahh that's good to hear - very glad they've updated it then! Hmm, that's unusual - to be honest, you do get a lot of models that arrive broken in the box, but it is possible that this happened at Hatton's - although they are very careful! If you're not happy about it, get in touch and let them know - I'm sure they'll help if they can? :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Ah, doubt they would help now; it has been over a year and when the model first arrived, I had accidentally dropped it when trying to repair that tender connection. Model was surprisingly fine, considering it landed with boiler landing on the rubber handle of a hammer a meter below my table. Some fragile bits broke (has been since fixed), but model still ran perfectly fine. Should have just sent it back when it first arrived, but I live in the US so postage would have been costly. Live and learn I suppose.
I must apologise as there is a mistake in my comments. I said that my A2 had tender pickups. After looking over the model recently, it does not have tender pickups. Again sorry about that.
@@Taggart00 Iirc he was a professional experienced driver but very little experience on the Peppercorn Pacific locomotives, they overfilled the boiler with water not knowing that these locomotives are very sensitive to this. I believe it broke his hands when the regulator jammed open.
Good to see that Bachmann correctly make two versions of that tender: Darlington-built (with flush rivets), and Doncaster-built (with snap-heads, as in your model). A good example of 'getting it right'. You mentioned detail between the frames: this is where British outline fails miserably compared with continental HO. Take a look at a firm such as Roco to see what CAN be done with detail work, or, at an extreme price, Fulgurex: if you've never seen them (the latter especially), your eyes will water! Even at Roco level, the Walschaert's gear actually moves with valve spindle, for instance. You mention £200 as being 'expensive' - a similar model by Fulgurex would be something like £1500! But you do get what you pay for. Take a look at Roco's SNCF 231E and look at the OC valve gear in action, not to mention the other fine detail. If you've never looked at continental HO, be prepared for something of a shock. That last loco is about £500 at current prices. PS - for authenticity there SHOULD have been wheelslip LOL!
A hefty price but rather nice! However there is one preserved! 60532 "Blue Peter", one of my favourite preserved locos! Although few has seen it for years as it's hidden away at barrow hill roundhouse.
I was reading a recent edition of the "Hornby Magazine" and in the news section i read that Hornby are planning to do a model of one of the Thompson versions of the A2 in the future, regards Gary.
Lovely locomotive Sam. Early crest, the BEST B R CREST on a steam locomotive Brunswick Green beautiful livery my second favourite 😊😊😊😊 great video Sam, thank you. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🐖🚄🚅
How did you get an A2???? I have been looking every where for an A2 (preferably Blue Peter) but I cannot find one anywhere and I mean AAANNNNYYWWEERRREE! :-( 1:34 there isn't a link ?! ... is there ?
WP allen was one of the main charachters in simierski's series of the british railway stories. I'm pretty sure there was an a2 named arthur but I'm not to sure
Thanks a lot Russell - yes I think the prices are a crying shame! Glad you got a Blue Peter though - those look lovely!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Interesting train.Is it a class 9f I assume? Fun fact I first got into trains of the UK due to hornby. Ive always wanted a set that involved the class 08 and jinty but decided to get it and review it one day.
Blue Peter should be returning to the mainline as it is undergoing a full restoration at LNWR heritage, it's completely in pieces now and many parts are replaced by new ones like the middle cylinder and many boiler parts but it should be back in it's former glory when done, and as good as Tornado and Flying Scotsman.
Great review Sam, shame there are no tender pickups though that would have helped tremendously. Even so at least you still have an excellent addition to your fleet. I think Bachmann need to do a retooling on the Peppercorn A2 including tender pickups, even though there were only 15 built of the real Peppercorn A2. I look forward to your next video as always. Keep well and stay safe, regards Gary.
Thanks a lot mate - I'm told that newer versions do have the extra pickups, just sadly the one I have doesn't! I agree though - overall I['m really happy with this!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
So sorry to hear that - unfortunately the Bachmann Thomas motors are just awful, I've known so many fail! Bachmann's website does sell spares, but they're ultra expensive for unknown reasons :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Another nicely produced video. I enjoy seeing UK models and how they run and how you test/rate them. PS: How do I send you my email addy so I can share my scratch builds with you? Should/May I use your addy for "Business Inquiries" found on your "About" page? Great series about UnBoxing.
I don't know why Edward Thompson would think its a good idea to scrap up Gresley's P2 and change it into a A2 design with a 4-6-2 instead of a 2-8-2 design. But both did get scrapped anyway towards the end of the steam era. At least we still have both the P2 and A2 in model form. BTW, the A2 looks very similar to the A1 by Peppercorn.
Well, the P2's weren't flawless; they had very high fuel consumption, their frames were cracking due to their long wheelbases, and had a tendency to wreck their crank axles at low speed when starting heavy trains; by my understanding, come 1943, and the poor maintenance conditions brought on by the war, the P2's were, to use a technical term, 'mechanically shagged'.
@@SamsTrains Alright,thats great too, because I really dont mind the chassis. I first wanted to buy the old Triang version, but in your review of it,it seemed like the GWR logo was just a sticker on it,so I didn't buy it because of the paintjob. Thank you for your quick answer! -Taylor
Looks pretty good and importantly it pulls well. I have to say that I think Bachmann do better diesels than steam and you get a driver with the diesels. Just one more thing, I looked up 'Bacholor's Button' and found out that it is another name for the cornflower.
Thanks Ian, yeah that’s true, she is a great puller! I’d agree, they do really well with the diesels! Ahh very cool - I didn’t know that!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Thanks Stewart - really glad you liked it! My favourite would be the West Country class - and the intro train isn't a real one, it's just some graphics I drew ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
hey Sam just saying thompsons A2/2 were rebuilt into the A2 cause the A2/2 has running issues and the cylinders were behind the pony truck similar to thompsons other pacific's they were quite lame but i may of mixed up my facts
Thanks for doing my request, Sam! It may not be the same model but it’s beautiful either way. And I also have a feeling that you get the A1s and the A2s confused a lot
@@SamsTrainsA1 has 6'8" drivers and the A2 6'2", meaning that the A1 has visible splashers and the A2 doesn't. Also, the A1 has a MUCH longer smokebox.
Thompson A2s were of 3 tyypes, the A2/1 were pacific wheel arrangement V2, A2/2 were rebuilt P2s and the A2/3s were a modified A2/2. 15/30 were built. Peppercorn redesigned and modified the design and improved. The Perpercorn A2s only just had one built for the LNER, the rest weren't completed till after Nationalization. This is a Peppercorn designed A2 not a Thompson A2/3!
That was my first time seeing an a2 and it was pretty much how I expected. Could you do a running session with shunters at high speed and locomotives like Pacifics,class43 type diesels and pendolinos going really slow. (Just thought it would be different 🤗)
Prices like that are quite terrifying. I'm starting to save up for the Bachmann Ambulance Train pack, which is being sold for £179 in my local model shop, and that's going to take me long enough to save money aside for
I agree Heath - very terrifying! I'd advise against paying £179 for that set - your local model shop is ripping you off! There's one on Ebay for £161, brand new - and even that's expensive!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam, just came across this - some poorer detailing than expected. I have Blue Peter, which is an A2 - perhaps it's the Peppercorn / Thompson overlap. You read out that none were preserved from the destructions earlier in the presentation? I know it's in bits at the moment, but doesn't 60532 Blue Peter count? Al.
@@SamsTrains Dug my 60532 Blue Peter out - very true about the lack of 3rd cylinder detailing, but I recognise I've virtually no 'flashing' on the mould line which you correctly indicated on your model here.
It was pretty obvious TBH. The price of this is terrible. I didn't know the LNER built the A2's after the A4's and by Thompson and peppercorn not Gresley. That's extremely odd IMO
The 'Prince of Wales' is nearly completed, it's a p2 class, made by the same company as 'Tornado'
Ahh that is good news, can’t wait to see her run!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I just got him in the Corgi brand, but it's static though.
Will the P2 be a 2-8-2 or a Pacific?
@@A.i.r_K it will be built to the original designs, with some upgrades to reliability, so 2-8-2
@@thomashambly3718 great! Glad to see these beautiful machines have their glory back
so this loco started as an already bizzare p2, got turned into the controversial thompson a2, and got minorly fixed by peppercorn, only to get preserved with tons of name changes along the way,
wow.
haha yeah - it's quite a story isn't it?!?
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
This Bachmann LNER Peppercorn A2 Pacific Locomotive Is A Bit Like Blue Peter. Thanks Sam'sTrains Mate. X
Yeah it is Luke, good spot! :D
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Its confusing but this is a peppercorn A2, and there is one preserved... 'Blue Peter' 60532
Thompson converted some Gresley p2s and v2s, made a mess by making them both Pacifics (A2/1 and A2/2) and then started making them Pacifics from scratch based on these, designated A2/3.. these all had the extended frames due to his belief that the middle Con rod and the outside con rods should be the same length , they flexed and broke and were strong but rubbish... Peppercorn modified the A2/3 design and created the A1 and A2, and it is this A2 that you have here :)
Ahh I see Chris, thanks very much for clearing that up, much appreciated!
Cheers,
Sam :)
The whole A2 business was started by Thompson's jealousy of Gresley. First he mangled up the final batch of V2s, turning them into the A2/1, which only added steam-leakage problems and made a longer locomotive. Then he made a botch of the P2s by converting them into Pacifics that weren't good enough for the Edinburgh-Aberdeen line they were designed for, (it could have been said that the new Pacifics were designed around their con rods). The A2/3s were the best of the Thompson bunch, but still suffered from that ridiculously long chassis, with the outside cylinders set well back à la Swindon. Don't forget his vindictive destruction of the very first Gresley Pacific, No4470 'Great Northern', turned into possibly the ugliest locomotive ever to run in this country (including Bulleid's Q1).
Peppercorn, saddled with already cast 6'2" drivers, rapidly rebuilt the chassis, turning his own A2 into a highly successful locomotive; however, even these weren't as versatile as the V2, nor, due to their relatively small drivers, as quick as the Gresley's Pacifics or Pep's own A1s.
Actually one locomotive of this class has survived into preservation it's name is blue Peter
I thought blue Peter was an a1 class.
Edit, nevermind, I meant a2, but I read the title as a1
Or did I mean a1
I've confused myself
Ahh cool! Thanks a lot for that, I’d forgotten about her!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
tanklord99 da boss Blue Peter is a Peppercorn A2, you might be thinking of Tornado, which is a Peppercorn A1.
Not a big fan of british locomotives but sam is such a nice guy that these videos are still worth watching
Ahh that's so kind of you Ian, thanks so much for the support!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam's trains I freaking love the A2 class especially in br green
Ooh me too! They’re great aren’t they? :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Again a great review of a really beautiful steam loco. Excellent.
Thanks so much Norbert - really glad you liked her mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Good fair review Sam.
One has survived 532 Blue Peter and back in the 80's I had a ride behind her when she was visiting the Seven Valley.
And re-the Thompson / Peppercorn debate. Thompsons A2 started out with two seperate designs. There was the A2/1 which consisted of four locomotives, started as Gresley V2 2-6-2's, but re-designed as pacifics to 'beef up' the design and over come some of the V2s short comings such as issues with the leading pony truck. These were followed by the A2/2's which were rebuilds of Gresleys, good looking but sadly flawed P2 2-8-2s, which were causing no end of issues to the LNER's traffic division and needed to be delt with sharpish. While is was happening Peppercorn, who was Thompsons assistant, was using the lessons learned from the rebuild batches to develop a new standard 'light' pacific. These locos differed from the Thompson A2s in a number of ways including a shorter front boogie, a slightly different spacing of the driving wheels and changes to the cab, firebox and smokebox design. In effect they used the best ideas of both Gresley and Thompson, and as they appeared after Thompsons retirement and differed somewhere from his A2 rebuilds they were given the class designation A2/3 and credited to Peppercorn. Although they were mainly 'light' pacifics for mixed traffic work, they were competent locos, capable of 100mph running and members of the class based at York often filled in for failed A1s, A3s and A4s with much success. It was the rebuilt A2/1, A2/2 that issues with the wheelbase not the A2/3, but that was cos Thompson was working with pre-existing designs and was one of the issues that Peppercorn was tasked to overcome.
Keep up the good work
Jon
Thanks very much Jon, glad you liked it! And thanks very much for the handy info on that - that definitely makes things clearer, much appreciated!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Lovely Sam, all these a class engines are beautiful!
Keep up the work :)
Thanks a lot mate! Glad you thought so! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
As a gamer your videos are amazing to listen to whilst playing.
Ahh that's great to hear - thanks so much for the support! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
What I will say regarding the inside valve gear is that the Pep (and Thompson) Pacifics had divided drive, meaning that although the outside cylinders drove the centre drivers, the inside drove the leading axle: as a result, the motion is pretty deep within the frames at the point shown. Unless on is extremely close to the prototype, one will see very little except a hole (which should have been modelled, I agree.
A1 at 17:06, odd one out is the LMS Duchess/Coronation at 18:11, Peppercorn A1 Tornado at 18:38, Gresley A4 at 20:50 and 21:43. Good video as always Sam. Bachmann really needs to up their game a little it seems.
Well spotted Patrick - that's the one!! Great work with the trainspotting!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Got a A2 myself one of the LNER batch with british railways on the tender great runner smooth performance and amazing strength hauls 8 coaches on a hilly layout easy
Ahh fantastic - awesome you got one too! They really are good powerful models - I really love mine!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Your A2 is definitely a bit older than the one I purchased last year. I bought the 120+ quid Pearl Diver in BR green late, and my model has tender connections, a much more detailed cab including a brown cab floor, I belive small roof slats (can't remember if they move), and tender pickups as well as a 21pin chip with possibility for sound.
Glad you finally got an A2 though. Definitely one of my all time favorites.
One thing about quality control though, I don't know if this is Bachmann's fault or Hattons', but my A2 had the small plastic piece on the tender where the drawbar connects broken in the box. I did have the model chipped, so my theory is that Hattons' broke it, but a good amount of glue fixed it.
Hi Josh - ahh that's good to hear - very glad they've updated it then! Hmm, that's unusual - to be honest, you do get a lot of models that arrive broken in the box, but it is possible that this happened at Hatton's - although they are very careful! If you're not happy about it, get in touch and let them know - I'm sure they'll help if they can? :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Ah, doubt they would help now; it has been over a year and when the model first arrived, I had accidentally dropped it when trying to repair that tender connection. Model was surprisingly fine, considering it landed with boiler landing on the rubber handle of a hammer a meter below my table. Some fragile bits broke (has been since fixed), but model still ran perfectly fine. Should have just sent it back when it first arrived, but I live in the US so postage would have been costly. Live and learn I suppose.
I must apologise as there is a mistake in my comments. I said that my A2 had tender pickups. After looking over the model recently, it does not have tender pickups. Again sorry about that.
Isn’t an A2 named Blue Peter still around?
Yes there is, it's famous for doing 200mph wheel slip
@@Taggart00 I was on board when it happened, a lot of enthusiasts got angry at the amateur driver
Haha absolutely - glad you liked her mate!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I thought the driver was a professional BR driver thats why they paid for the damages?
@@Taggart00 Iirc he was a professional experienced driver but very little experience on the Peppercorn Pacific locomotives, they overfilled the boiler with water not knowing that these locomotives are very sensitive to this. I believe it broke his hands when the regulator jammed open.
Good to see that Bachmann correctly make two versions of that tender: Darlington-built (with flush rivets), and Doncaster-built (with snap-heads, as in your model). A good example of 'getting it right'. You mentioned detail between the frames: this is where British outline fails miserably compared with continental HO. Take a look at a firm such as Roco to see what CAN be done with detail work, or, at an extreme price, Fulgurex: if you've never seen them (the latter especially), your eyes will water! Even at Roco level, the Walschaert's gear actually moves with valve spindle, for instance. You mention £200 as being 'expensive' - a similar model by Fulgurex would be something like £1500! But you do get what you pay for. Take a look at Roco's SNCF 231E and look at the OC valve gear in action, not to mention the other fine detail. If you've never looked at continental HO, be prepared for something of a shock. That last loco is about £500 at current prices.
PS - for authenticity there SHOULD have been wheelslip LOL!
Amazing review Sam sorry that it’s late I’ve been out all day and am only just watching it but beautiful locomotive
That's okay James - no problem mate, hope you had a great day! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains I did thank you Sam mate
Stunning model
This is an amazing review I must say I’ll be getting one soon and this review has gotten me quite excited
Thanks so much mate, really hope you enjoy yours when you get it! :D
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The a2 looks good, and sorry im late. Yes the peppercorn a2 looks very good indeed, great vid sam
Thanks a lot mate - glad you liked her, I'm really pleased with this too!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam could you please make a top 10 cheapest train?
Good idea! I could totally do that! :D
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And could you do also a video of the top 10 slowest train that you have?
And can a ho train go on a oo tracks?
The1catt Cat game yes
Cool! The more you know!💫
A hefty price but rather nice! However there is one preserved! 60532 "Blue Peter", one of my favourite preserved locos! Although few has seen it for years as it's hidden away at barrow hill roundhouse.
@Sukmeov Arder Ah so it's true then! I'd heard a rumour about that! Should be good when's she back :) cheers
Thanks a lot mate! And you’re absolutely right - not sure how I missed that one!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I was reading a recent edition of the "Hornby Magazine" and in the news section i read that Hornby are planning to do a model of one of the Thompson versions of the A2 in the future, regards Gary.
Ahh really? I didn't know this - if that's true, then that's very exciting! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Lovely locomotive Sam. Early crest, the BEST B R CREST on a steam locomotive Brunswick Green beautiful livery my second favourite 😊😊😊😊 great video Sam, thank you. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🐖🚄🚅
Thanks a lot Mark - yes it's a great livery isn't it this one?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It's a lovely looking model......thanks for sharing Sam.....
Thanks a lot mate - glad you liked her! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Very nice loco. BR green is growing on me, I like the orange lining and have recently got a Dapol N gauge Flying Scotsman in that livery.
Thanks a lot Rob appreciate it! Me too, the lining is awesome! Enjoy your new Scotsman!
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How did you get an A2???? I have been looking every where for an A2 (preferably Blue Peter) but I cannot find one anywhere and I mean AAANNNNYYWWEERRREE! :-( 1:34 there isn't a link ?! ... is there ?
I got mine on Hatton's I think! :D
Love the BR green I think it suits it
Ooh me too - they're very handsome aren't they?? :D
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bought one of these on ebay last week Ran it in yesterday and Really love it also got it for £104.00 which for a A2 is a good buy
Great video! I love the A2s; they're my favourite class of loco for one main reason: 8P7F. :)
Thanks a lot mate! Haha yeah that’s true... how did that happen?!
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WP allen was one of the main charachters in simierski's series of the british railway stories. I'm pretty sure there was an a2 named arthur but I'm not to sure
Ahh yeah I've heard about this! I'd love to check it out some time! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Great video Sam looks like a brilliant loco
Thanks a lot David, glad you liked her!
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Great video. Lovely loco. Aside from trains, I also love Shakespeare.
Thanks a lot mate - ahh this is perfect for you then! :D
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Thanks sam, again a great review as always...
Thanks so much mate! :D
Completely agree on scoring . I’ve got Blue Peter , maybe about 10 years old now . A really nice model, but £179 way too much .
Thanks a lot Russell - yes I think the prices are a crying shame! Glad you got a Blue Peter though - those look lovely!! :D
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You could use asidfree Grease on the axels, I used it on my Bachmann Standard 5 and it doe’snt make a lot of noise and it reduces wear
Ahh okay, that sounds good - I’ll definitrly give that a try some time!!
Interesting train.Is it a class 9f I assume?
Fun fact I first got into trains of the UK due to hornby. Ive always wanted a set that involved the class 08 and jinty but decided to get it and review it one day.
Thanks Mag - it looks similar, but it’s an A2! Ahh cool - I’ll have to look into that! :D
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I have this model in N gauge it’s pretty good
Ooh nice! Great to hear they did one in N gauge! :O
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Blue Peter should be returning to the mainline as it is undergoing a full restoration at LNWR heritage, it's completely in pieces now and many parts are replaced by new ones like the middle cylinder and many boiler parts but it should be back in it's former glory when done, and as good as Tornado and Flying Scotsman.
Ahh blimey - well let's hope they get her sorted okay, it'd be lovely to see her run again!!
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The A2 is very nice one Sam!
Thanks a lot Marco! :D
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Sam :)
my favourite livery is either LNER doncaster green or BR blue
Ooh great choices there!! :D
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I agree with you on price, Sam.
Thanks a lot Nigel - it's always bugged me :/
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on the rails on the loco is missing something i think just thought i would say Sam see if you can see it?
Ooh really?? What sort of thing?? I'll definitely take a look! :D
Ive always wanted one of these engines. But never could find a good price, or any peppercorn pacific
Yeah that's the problem - they're not worth the price sadly! :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’m enjoying watching your vids :)
Thanks a lot Connor - that's very kind of you!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Your very welcome
Great review Sam, shame there are no tender pickups though that would have helped tremendously. Even so at least you still have an excellent addition to your fleet. I think Bachmann need to do a retooling on the Peppercorn A2 including tender pickups, even though there were only 15 built of the real Peppercorn A2. I look forward to your next video as always. Keep well and stay safe, regards Gary.
Thanks a lot mate - I'm told that newer versions do have the extra pickups, just sadly the one I have doesn't! I agree though - overall I['m really happy with this!! :D
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I couldn't tell from the title if you meant Thompson or Peppercorn, plz be more _pacific!_ Just kidding, amazing review, the loco looks spectacular
Aah I see what you did there, haha! ;D
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Hi Sam my bachmann duglas has burnt out and I don't know why it has and do you know where I could get a nother morter from
So sorry to hear that - unfortunately the Bachmann Thomas motors are just awful, I've known so many fail! Bachmann's website does sell spares, but they're ultra expensive for unknown reasons :(
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If I had to guess, I’d say the odd one out is the LMS City of Birmingham, but I may be wrong
Well spotted! It was the LMS imposter!
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Another nicely produced video. I enjoy seeing UK models and how they run and how you test/rate them.
PS: How do I send you my email addy so I can share my scratch builds with you? Should/May I use your addy for "Business Inquiries" found on your "About" page?
Great series about UnBoxing.
Thanks Scott, appreciate it mate! My email is in the description - feel free to send anything there!!
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Gotcha. Thanx.
Bachmann class A2. Oh sam you missed the great model railway challenge yesterday that is another one next Friday
Haha! I didn’t miss it actually, I saw most of it!, :D
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Amazing review Sam. But Sam isin't there a Peppercorn A2 preserved called Blue Peter ?
Thanks a lot mate! Yeah you’re right, not sure how I missed that!!
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I don't know why Edward Thompson would think its a good idea to scrap up Gresley's P2 and change it into a A2 design with a 4-6-2 instead of a 2-8-2 design. But both did get scrapped anyway towards the end of the steam era. At least we still have both the P2 and A2 in model form. BTW, the A2 looks very similar to the A1 by Peppercorn.
I know - because he was a swine, that's why! ;D
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Well, the P2's weren't flawless; they had very high fuel consumption, their frames were cracking due to their long wheelbases, and had a tendency to wreck their crank axles at low speed when starting heavy trains; by my understanding, come 1943, and the poor maintenance conditions brought on by the war, the P2's were, to use a technical term, 'mechanically shagged'.
The coronation is the odd one out. Although, it would be interesting if they were L.N.E.R.-made. Also, can you potentially do a cavalcade video?
Well spotted Dylan, that’s the one! Ooh that’s be cool, I’ll look into that!
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Does that remind anyone of the emerald knight from Lego? Which was a A1 Pacific.
Ooh really?! I didn’t know about that - that’s very cool!,
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This really was a nice review Sam. :)
Thanks so much Kameron!! :D
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You're very welcome Sam.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! very nice Sam i love it Again Great Video My Friend!
Thanks very much Lazer - really glad you like doing it!!
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you are the best Sam!!!
Thank you!! :D
Hi Sam,I was wondering if you would review the new hornby 2721 class anytime soon? I'm planning on buying it,but I'd like to see your opinion first.
Hey Taylor, I will be reviewing the original version, which is the same model, with a different chassis!
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@@SamsTrains Alright,thats great too, because I really dont mind the chassis. I first wanted to buy the old Triang version, but in your review of it,it seemed like the GWR logo was just a sticker on it,so I didn't buy it because of the paintjob. Thank you for your quick answer!
-Taylor
An honest review Sam, a fine looking loco, but far too expensive for what it is....Bob
Thanks a lot Bob - yeah for sure, I came to the same conclusion!
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Hmm. I don’t know, the odd loco out must be really well hidden, because I couldnt find it....
haha! No sarcasm intended?? ;D
Can you do a vid of the A1, A2, A3, and A4 in a running session?
That'd be fantastic Kon! :D
You've probably fixed it already but one of the handrail knobs has come out of its hole on the left side of the loco
Well spotted Jake - I'll have to look into that, thanks a lot!! :D
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Looks pretty good and importantly it pulls well. I have to say that I think Bachmann do better diesels than steam and you get a driver with the diesels. Just one more thing, I looked up 'Bacholor's Button' and found out that it is another name for the cornflower.
Thanks Ian, yeah that’s true, she is a great puller! I’d agree, they do really well with the diesels! Ahh very cool - I didn’t know that!!
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Nice engine mate, quite a nice bargain you got there!
Thanks a lot mate - yeah I agree actually, I was pretty pleased with it!! :D
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Hey Sam, the guys making prince of Wales and made tornado plan to build a V4 next. Does anyone make models of those?
OOh that's awesome - I bet someone will after that announcement!! :O
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Sam great video. What is your favorite loco and what kind of engine is that at the beginning and the end of every video just in arrested
Thanks Stewart - really glad you liked it! My favourite would be the West Country class - and the intro train isn't a real one, it's just some graphics I drew ;D
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Are you going to do a review on the new hornby A2/3
I doubt it unfortunately - I already spent way too much on the /2
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Why waste time on a bloody awful prototype?
I love this class
Thank you! I do too!! :D
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Hi Sam I am new to dcc I was wondering if its possible run a dcc fitted loco on dc
Hey! Yes it's usually possible - sometimes you might need to enable it on the decoder, otherwise it should work fine!
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The odd one out 8s the LMS city of Birmingham (the red one at 18:19)
Very well spotted!! :D
What is the music at 0:10?
It's Boogie Woogie I think! :D
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Yes an a2 tou found one thanks for reviewing it sam 😁😁😁
haha my pleasure mate - hope you like the vid!
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Brilliant review!
Thanks so much!! :D
Great video Sam great loco what are the cheapest frieght locomotives
Thanks a lot Lewis! A cheap one that comes to mind is the Hornby 4F - they’re brilliant runners!
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hey Sam just saying thompsons A2/2 were rebuilt into the A2 cause the A2/2 has running issues and the cylinders were behind the pony truck similar to thompsons other pacific's they were quite lame but i may of mixed up my facts
Ahh cool! Thanks for all the info on that mate - much appreciated!! :D
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@@SamsTrains no worries mate always happy to help out a fellow modeler weirdly i just know alot of loco facts
Thanks for doing my request, Sam! It may not be the same model but it’s beautiful either way. And I also have a feeling that you get the A1s and the A2s confused a lot
My pleasure mate, really glad you liked it! Oh yeah, they’re pretty easy to confuse!
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@@SamsTrainsA1 has 6'8" drivers and the A2 6'2", meaning that the A1 has visible splashers and the A2 doesn't. Also, the A1 has a MUCH longer smokebox.
Thompson A2s were of 3 tyypes, the A2/1 were pacific wheel arrangement V2, A2/2 were rebuilt P2s and the A2/3s were a modified A2/2. 15/30 were built. Peppercorn redesigned and modified the design and improved. The Perpercorn A2s only just had one built for the LNER, the rest weren't completed till after Nationalization. This is a Peppercorn designed A2 not a Thompson A2/3!
Thanks very much for the info on those Nirate, appreciate it mate! :D
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Excellent review! Wow that price though!
Thanks mate - I know - the price is one of the biggest downfalls :/
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That was my first time seeing an a2 and it was pretty much how I expected. Could you do a running session with shunters at high speed and locomotives like Pacifics,class43 type diesels and pendolinos going really slow. (Just thought it would be different 🤗)
That’s good to hear mate, did you like her then?
That sounds good, I can totally try that!! :D
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I loved her
I’ve always had a soft spot for more classic designs like Pacifics
Sorry, but that dome doesn't seem to be done very well particularly in the view at 7:22.
Wow loooks like a beautiful loco sam! Who much did it cost??
Thanks a lot Harvey! I forget now, but I think the cost was in the video!
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Hey Sam can you do a review on the lms stanier mogul from Bachmann
Yes! I have one - I'm just waiting to review it! :D
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Prices like that are quite terrifying. I'm starting to save up for the Bachmann Ambulance Train pack, which is being sold for £179 in my local model shop, and that's going to take me long enough to save money aside for
I agree Heath - very terrifying! I'd advise against paying £179 for that set - your local model shop is ripping you off! There's one on Ebay for £161, brand new - and even that's expensive!!
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@@SamsTrains Thanks, that's very nice of you to check that for me. I'll have a look! :)
Which company do you think makes the better Pacifics Hornby,bachmann or others.Yes I’m asking your question
Ooh I think Hornby for me! :D
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Loveless - superb models in 0 and 1 gauges.
Awesome review Sam I love the model it’s really cool and Sam could you try getting more Bachmann please
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Fawzi
Thanks a lot mate! Yeah sure - more bachmann on the way soon!! :D
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Sam'sTrains yay 😁
What kind of locomotive is the flying Scotsman?
She’s an A3 now, originally a Gresley A1!
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Thompson!!!! There is one preserved, blue Peter
KOOTPGB
Ahh yes you're right! I must have missed that one!! D:
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it looks a bit, weird, is it a pacific 9f thing?
haha it looks a bit like a 9F - it's just a late LNER pacific, similar to the A1 etc!
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Love Bachmann trains T Y for sharing
Me too! My pleasure - glad you liked it!
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What's the Bathtub doing there???
A BEUTIFUL LOCO love love love
Thanks so much Michael!! :D
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Sam, just came across this - some poorer detailing than expected. I have Blue Peter, which is an A2 - perhaps it's the Peppercorn / Thompson overlap. You read out that none were preserved from the destructions earlier in the presentation? I know it's in bits at the moment, but doesn't 60532 Blue Peter count? Al.
Thanks Al - yeah not the best this! And I think you're right - not sure why I said that! :O
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@@SamsTrains Dug my 60532 Blue Peter out - very true about the lack of 3rd cylinder detailing, but I recognise I've virtually no 'flashing' on the mould line which you correctly indicated on your model here.
Could you get the American flyer polar express!? Its better than the lionel plss
Yeah those do look great - I'll keep an eye out for one!! :D
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@@SamsTrains thx
That LMS coronation class has to be the odd engine out
It was -v ery well spotted! :D
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It was pretty obvious TBH. The price of this is terrible. I didn't know the LNER built the A2's after the A4's and by Thompson and peppercorn not Gresley. That's extremely odd IMO
Now that's what I call a beauty!
Thanks so much Aaron!! :D
Do you use Hornby points or peco points?
I use Hornby ones, but Peco points are also supposed to be really good, if not better!
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Off topic, if you think the Daylight is big, then you haven’t seen the Union Pacific Big Boy’s
Haha yeah that’s true... those are even bigger still!! :O
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You said that no A2's were preserved. That's incorrect!!!
Blue Peter is an A2 locomotive and is a peppercorn locomotive.
Ahh I stand corrected, thanks a lot for the info!
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Sam :)