Everything you said here is right on point brother....NBC was actually my job in the army so I got used to having my mask and suit with me at all times. The mask I started off with was a usgi m17, and later we upgraded to m40 masks, and we had the full charcoal lined mopp suit and butyl rubber gloves and boots, and we were protected from pretty much any biological or chemical threat... And some degree of radiological as well depending on the radiation level. You have put together a very good set of ppe preps there my friend... Keep the great informative videos coming.
I purchased 2, M17 gas masks. And one of the charcoal lined mopp suits still sealed in original bag. Lots of replacement filters for mask i put away and rubber gloves, no over boots yet. Should be good enough and masks still seal properly and bought new replacement parts to rebuild masks several times. Also found laser protective goggles and outserts for masks
If you have a charcoal lined suit...2 things...the are useless if they get wet, if they are the cloth covered ones. And the military suggests you change the suit after 30 minutes especially if you are sweating, which you will because they are HOT!!
If i may add more info. Keep your butyl rubber gloves and mask as well as inlet and outlet valves covered in a light coat of talcum powder. The small silicone/butyl rubber outlet valve disks can sometimes stick. The gloves can be a pain to put on if they were in a hot environment. The talcum powder will stop the finger thumbs from sticking together. Also add a roll of duct tape to your list to seal the gloves and boots to your suit. Many have been contaminated because they raised their arms above their heads and the agent slid along the outside of the glove and got underneath the suit.
Agree with Dave , also when using the tape to seal the gloves to suit . Once completed tapping around the wrist, use more tape and make a fold like a tab. That will aid in removing the suit. Also watch a video on how to property take off a suit once it comes into contact with a contaminant. You can have the greatest PPE on the market. But it'll be useless if you Doff the gear improperly.
Great video. Love your humor man. You deliver great, practical, relevant content. But one of my favorite things is you slide some great humor in there along with everything else. Thank you for the energy in your productions.
We picked up MIRA equipment too. Good quality products. Side note: you can buy an adapter for the hydration system so you can connect the drinking straw to a camelback system. 👍👍
Don't worry about what people say or think of you! You're doing a great job; you save us a lot of time by doing these evaluations between different PPE's. Thank you for helping all of us here at M.P.
You are so good on this topic. All of the things you have on the table are good gear. Especially the masks and filters. Great gloves also. This is the first video of yours that I have had a question about. This is very important. Those are very good hazmat suits (don't do a lot of heavy work in them). If you need to wear a them and go through a contaminated area, Where is your decontamination (decon) and doffing area? Who will be helping you with your decon? The answers to that should be part of this prep.
Nice video! Brings back memories of the CBR course I took on Okinawa in 1969 with the 1sr SF Group and the NBC course I took in Panama in 1975 with the 7th SF Group. In Germany 1979-81 we were always going to MOPP4 during training. Really miserable in the summer! I wonder if IM-93's and IM-174's and atropine are still used? And chemical detection paper?
That awesome that you gave Canadian Prepper a nod. I sub. and watch you both. Also like the "...I sent you that email. You know who you are". Blend in with lizard people. Hahahahaha!!!! This was a really good video. Thanks.
I found this video very helpful. Last year when parrot of the interstate was on fire in Atlanta, I realized that a gas mask could be life saving in times of peace. It was a wake up call to the fact that ditching a very capable Jeep rubicon can be a realistic expectation. The surplus masks may contain asbestos, and maybe all the older stuff does. I don't know how to tell which filter canisters do, so the info on the newer 40mm canisters is a big help that I'm grateful for.
Great video, and thanks for the insight on where to acquire some of the gear. I have an Avon c50 with cbrnf12b filters, not the best shelf life, but what I could afford. I would also add some activated carbon / charcoal to the set of supplies as you may need to decontaminate when reentering the home after an outing, sometimes charcoal is needed in conjunction with bleach. One of my CBRN concerns is a blister agent where it is dispersed using an oil as a catalyst, so it will stick to everything and be a nightmare to clean off. I keep 2 bars of shave soap JIC I need to loose the beard, I don’t have to worry about it going bad or depressurizing, and it lasts a long time, just add water.
Problem with those masks is that you’re not gonna know when to put it on. Most chemical/biological agents are odorless or have an oder that you won’t recognize. Still, better to have that stuff than to not have it. Also, maybe a good pair of leather gloves to go over those rubber gloves in case you gotta do some work.
Great preparedness kit. You have answered a lot of my questions. Is it possible that you could wear boots over those boots on the hazmat suit. Just curious? Thanks for the advice!
Beards can be kept as some soldiers in the Iran Iraq war used Vaseline petroleum gel to coat their beards before donning the mask they used . I have the SGE 400/3 BB mask and carry it in the old m40 gas mask carrier. Much better than the one you have. Yours takes longer to don and clear than mine. I have the old m40 FPM as well but instantly loved my new mask after donning it. Superior peripheral vision. I served six active Army NBC and 14 active USMC NBC and was in the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force when it was founded. In my opinion any filter that is 40mm will do as in a SHTF scenario you will most likely face CS/home made choking agents and not battle field NBC attacks. Having said that i do have multiple canisters for long term use. Step one: Get a correctly sized mask. Step two: Learn how to use it and maintain it. Step Three: Practice wearing it and if possible firing multiple weapons while wearing it.
Don't breath in. Stop breathing, and get the mask on in 9 seconds or less. At least to a seal and purge. If you can find an atropine kit make sure you know how to use it.
Face it. Nothing sustainable especially as a mere prepper, or less. Avoid the scenario at all costs or you will succumb to the exposure without a doubt. Or just pretend you really have a chance when in a sane reality, You Don't. Step V is to avoid. NBC is for the big boys club and we aren't in it. 509SMRT FEMA Zone 10, Sector 13, Camp 11, City 17.
@@lazenblaze9896 I worked for SBCCOM for a few years. I'm ready enough to get my family out of the affected area. Nuclear stuff is another story. If rather die in the blast than die of radiation poisoning.
Hanford Nuclear Reservation with the adjacent military complex is my immediate AO that we must avoid here. 3 options are go North, South, West...only North works best here.The wearing and operating in MOPP was always a drag and all the years I trained in it and went to War in it, I never felt anywhere close to being protected. But they instructed us oh yeah we were protected.... to a point ahahahaha yeah I didn't believe the instructors enough to bet my life on the BS they said. They know that we know that they know that we know ect,ect... 509SMRT
One thing you’re missing is the ChemTape. Gotta use it to seal the wrists, the seem in the front of the suit, and around the edges of the mask. The elastic is handy for getting the suit positioned, but it does not seal. Otherwise good info.
Last year, southern Nevada where I live had about a week of very poor air quality and poor visibility because of smoke from California wild fires. So for a week we stayed indoors except for short walks outside to pick up the daily mail. When we did go outside we wore washable polyester dust masks and those masks did a fairly good job of filtering smoke too. We did not need to turn off our air conditioners -- the smoke was not so bad we had to prevent the air conditioning system from bringing in some outside air. I never again want to train in MOP gear. I hated wearing the NBC gas mask, hood, those clumsy rubber gloves, that heavy suit with the layer of charcoal, and those laced on rubber boot covers that went over the combat boots. That gear quickly became unpleasantly hot to wear even during cool weather and produced a lot of sweating. I cannot imagine wearing my own personal NBC sauna suit outdoors during the summer here in the Mojave desert where outdoor temperatures regularly reach 110" F. In our household, the plan is to stay prepared to evacuate to a clean zone if there is the threat that outdoor conditions will become hazardous to humans because of radioactive plumes or toxic chemical spills. If the hazard is considered mild and of short duration, we will just shelter in place if the weather is cool. We have the means to seal up all the doors, windows and vents with duck/duct tape and plastic sheeting. If the weather is too hot to go without air conditioning, we will just evacuate. No way am I ever going to voluntarily put on MOP gear again. If you opt for having NBC masks, make sure you know how to check for a good seal and how to clear that mask. And make sure you know how to safely clean those masks after every use. The masks come in different sizes and women and teens often need the small or extra small size. Eyeglasses will not fit inside most NBC gas masks, so you may need special eyeglasses designed to fit inside the mask if you have corrected vision. And forget about wearing contact lenses with a gas mask unless you are willing to not be able to do anything about a painful chunk of dust or an eyelash that gets under the lens. Tear gas canisters provide the opportunity for a realistic test of the seal on your NBC mask (only do this outdoors and stay outdoors for about 30 minutes afterwards so you do not bring the tear gas indoors with you). If you have the least bit of claustrophobia, forget about suiting up in gas mask and hood -- imagine having something over your face and head that limits your visual field, requires conscious effort to breathe, smells like rubber, muffles sounds to the point that mainly you hear yourself breathing and is hard to remove. And if you have congested sinuses from allergies or a cold, you will have to breathe through your mouth which will immediately fog the face shield to the point you cannot see anything but a white glow. I can say from personal experience that stumbling around blind and disoriented outdoors because of a fogged gas mask is not fun. My best advice is unless you are part of the team moving ebola patients or shutting down the damaged nuclear reactor or are leaving your fallout shelter to clear radioactive ash off the solar panels, there are easier alternatives to suiting up in NBC full protective gear. Just evacuate to a clean zone or shelter in place, depending upon the threat level and save yourself a lot of money that you would have spent buying NBC gear. Good luck and stay safe.
I understand the risk of having facial hair with regard to a NBC mask. Because I have a beard too I have tested my isralie m15 mask and I get a solid seal I’ve tested on two occasions over three month period. I have also have sealed my filters in food saver vacuum bags. I put a mask on and shot my boom stick. Much more difficult and I need to invest time practicing putting on the mask and practice shooting with the mask. I made my purchases during the Obama reign.. I also have a portable shower commonly used for camping for decontamination. If you have to break out the mask you will most likely need a shower. I also have a case of plastic covering for sealing doors and windows. Great vid. Enjoy all your vids.
i bought current military mop suits on eBay still in the package and vacuum sealed because I couldn't find a hazmat suit under 150 bucks Mira and all those other places charge an arm and a leg so thank you for telling me about the DuPont one I am also going to purchase one of those. I wish I could find a video on how to prep your kids with gear cuz it's just me and my four year old son but I did get him a mask and we are now currently stocked up on potassium iodide pills as well
I got an old MOP suit still in the bag at a pawn shop for $30. Just like the one I wore around a chemical weapons depot when I was in the Army. Plastic sheets, duct tape, plastic trash cans, lots of bleach, and charcoal. See if you can get chemical indicator strips, and download some tech manuals on NBC safety.
Suggestions: Duct tape and plastic sheeting. I’d want to be able to tape my sleeves to gloves, etc. Also want to be able to cover windows, doors, etc, with wet cloth and set up a decon area with plastic sheeting for coming back in. Plastic kiddie pool to catch contaminated water from sluicing off. Oh, and bleach. Lotsa bleach, many uses. Also would want some boxes of nitrile gloves and disinfectant wipes.
Love your show brother, One thing you should have mentioned is that the filters themselves are very short lived once opened. Somewhere between 8 and 20 hours/Filter. Someone may need need dozens of filters in an extended shtf situation....$$$$
If you want a good resource for learning about CBRN things, see if you can order Army Field Manual 3-11 or FM 3-11. It is the field manual for all things CBRN used by 74D in the US Army. Should have lots of good info.
Over the past few months, I've done a mountain of research for these sorts of protection. Based on my budget and want of a visor-style mask, I keep finding the same equipment you have as the best value for a full level of protection. Currently I'm still debating over which of those two masks to buy. I'm leaning towards the Mestel Safety SGE 400/3 BB mask (the one with the full-face transparent visor). You're right about butyl rubber, too. I did a heap of research about that. Fortunately, I have a lot of documentation about the properties of various types of rubber, as part of my job. Butyl rubber does seem to be the best for blistering agents, such as mustard gas.
Great video! One thing that I would like to add is that the P3 filters would still protect you from alpha and beta particles after a nuclear disaster. They will also protect from any particulates. They will not protect against aerosols like most chemical weapons.
Is that the Pandemic boardgame that I see on top of your fridge? My wife and I got that game for Christmas 2020, and we played it on NYE. Lol. Keep up the good work with your channel, brother! 👊😎👍
Same thing they just changed by adding Radiation into the mix. Guess some in the modern world weren’t smart enough to figure out Nuclear also means radiation, so they added it. 🙄😂🤔
@@blackriveroutfitters7185 Radiation can include Directed Energy such as is used to smoke us out of our rural homes across the globe (Paradise, Carr, Portugal, Greece, Australia, Canada, etc). I doubt if any of this equipment will shield against that. DEW heats iron to incandescence and alloy to melting point.
@@johnnewbold4622 no clue if it actually works or not. Don’t know a whole lot of people that have been in that environment personally, I darn sure know I haven’t been. Just passing on what the United States federal government (US Department of Energy) (FEMA), etc say that’s what it’s for........
Dirty Bomb Our Nuke power plant meltdown, instead of nuclear detonation. Really there isn't much of difference. I guess people just like creating new & improved acronyms
I got the same black sack ... found mine @ princess-auto in the surplus section. I made a kit we keep in the car & have actually used some of the items since. Love it so much i may get another if they have them 💪🏼
This is for you reading the comments, who is considering buying a gas mask: While I certainly recommend having a gas mask (I think every home should have one for each family member), you need to focus on what is more likely. You aren't likely to be exposed to nerve or blister agents, no matter how many times he says "sarin" or "mustard gas". The reality is without atropine, you arent going to make it through a sarin attack. And if a blister agent is being deployed, it would be wiser to don the mask and run, rather than put on a hazmat suit THEN run. Is it possible that WW3 can pop off with gas attacks and rain radioactive dust? It's possible I suppose, but not very likely. Plan for what is more likely to happen: Get a couple CBRN filters to protect you in the event of a large chemical spill or industrial mishap (like the chlorine gas explosion at the port in Jordan). Get a couple police riot filters to protect you from teargas. Get a couple smoke filters to help you escape a housefire/wildfire.
FWIW: I would recommend a PAPR over a gas mask. The issue with the masks is they restrict your breathing and if do anything requiring effort your going to quickly run out of breath. Also those masks are prone to fogging. A PAPR has a powered air filter to provide continuous airflow. PAPR are used in hospitals (biological) and industrial plants (chemical) & also in use by Military for radiological events. Second I would recommend a kit of Tyvek suits because you can afford to depose them if you need to consider the suits need to be decontaminated if your planning to store them inside. Tyvek suits are used in hospitals and do provide protection for radiological contamination. I have doubts that you need to use a suit in a situation that involves chemicals that can degrade by corrosion or leakage. If an chemical attack happens its likely going to happen in a public space which you probably won't be wearing a full hazmat suit. For everyday carry, I would keep an N100 Mask close by, and a Gas mask or PAPR in a vehicle. I don't think any is going to strap a Gas mask to their hip when doing everyday tasks (Groceries, shopping, etc).
Where do you go if exposed and more importantly is it ok take the gear off after you leave a dangerous zone? Do you need to clean yourself before taking off the mask?
ideally you go to a location that has protection and an air filtration system. Taking your mask off will depend on the situation. Most likely if you can a a dozen miles away from the event and your outdoors its probably safe. I guess you can observe the people and animals. If they aren't dead or suffering, its probably safe. In most cases you need to decontaminate before removing the gear. usually this is done by taking a shower or hosing yourself off from head to toe to wash off any contaminates. But that make not be an option in all cases. You have to use your judgement.
If you plan to be firing any weapons with the gas masks on, make sure you dont get scoped. I did that with my service mask and had some scratches from the scope until the day I turned in my gear. Wont affect functionality but it is an annoying reminder of the one time you weren't careful.
I wore gas masks professionally, almost daily for 7 years in a previous career, had a beard for half of that. Utilizing the proper undergarments can still ensure a positive seal with facial hair.
Actual use experience... Buy some chemical resistant tape to seal your seams. Gloves and boots specifically. You also need to research proper decontamination and donning/doffing procedures and practice. Great video and really good gear!
I bought the CM-7m because it's better for using the sights/scopes on rifles. While the CM-6M has a slightly better field of view, it limits how you can use your weapons.
Good chem bio outfit. But nothing here that stops gamma rays. Stay in some kind enclosure with masonry or dirt walls until you’re sure the attack is over. Then use this suit.
Tyvek suit and only having one or 2 is a waste. It’s a one and done item Aside from that what’s with the boy band 90’s look and all the bouncing around?
Yep having more is important but buying one at a time might be more feasible for some. And honestly, it's -18 degrees here right now so fashion went out the window.
Military surplus protective masks (“gas mask”) can be had brand new fairly current issue for $71.99 with free shipping. Comes with carrying case and one CRBN filter. That’s a smoking deal in my opinion.
@@MagicPrepper I have MSA Advantage, MSA Phalanx, MSA Millennium, MSA M17A1 (training only), Yugoslav new surplus with NATO filter conversion, French ARF-A, all masks have new up to date filters except for the MSA M17A1 hence the reason its used for training only. I’ve used protective mask a lot in the military, while I was a firefighter and in law enforcement. I prefer the MSA Millennium, Phalanx and Advantage. I keep the Yugoslavian masks and French masks for training and/or barter items.
ModernSurplus gas masks most of the time work just as good the Israeli gas masks are great I personally like the polish mp5 but if you want something that is guaranteed to be in good condition yes you can get the masks he shows in the video but modern surplus masks also work and most of the time they are made of butly rubber
ok 2 questions, and not trying to be funny, what about pissing? Got a bottle or something or just in your boot? 2nd question is... Is the canteen some sort of something that blocks all that shit too or does your water get contaminated if not kept in the suit? For example if it was hooked on your belt or even with a camel back adapter. And even the straw, is that protecting the liquid your drinking? (extra question)
You can buy diapers for pissing etc lol, and most masks that come with drinking tubes have bottles that act as a sort of bayonet system that doesn’t let contaminants in but still allows you to drink
"Looks at wallet" Awesome gear but out of my range atm. But for rubber items I would try "Meguiar's Endurance Tire Gel" I use it to restore the rubber on my old mercedes and it kind of brings back old rubber to life. Probably use it more of a rubber conditioner.
So Micheal Hawk is a retired career Special Forces Officer, he is host of Man Woman Wild and a Subject Matter Expert on everything survival. In an interview about survival in general he had nothing good to say about NBC threats as they require so much specialized training to put on the equipment, operate in the equipment, and DECONTAMINATION. NBC threats will kill and contaminate if not decon properly and that is almost impossible without a team of people specialized in HAZMAT.
Testing fitment of a mask and getting an actual sizing tool is paramount. Nows the time to stock up, as it’s slowly returning to dealer inventory. There are many good reasons to have at least a good quality CBRN mask.
2 things: 1 if you wear glasses, make sure you have an insert to wear with your mask 2 one thing those filters wont protect from is chlorine gas, cbrn filters will buy you about 30 minutes but will not stop it from getting through, if exposed your best option is to gtfo that area
Keep in mind, once you start using that filter there's a "useful life" that may only be 8-12 hours. You might want to have more than one each on hand...
A filter rated for biologicals will most likely work for Aplha and Beta Radiation particles. Same with those face pieces. Of course none of that will protect you from gamma or neutron. Those you will have to use time, distance and shielding as protective measures. LOL was about to say that beard has to go. The butul gloves are only necessary for chemical applications and perhaps if you plan on handling a high activity radiation source, but then you can expect a short life anyway. You will still wear nytril gloves underneath them to help maintain some fine motor skills because they are all but lost in butyl gloves. So practicing anything you can with them on would be highly recommended.
mask & suit will protect you from inhaling or getting isotopes in your clothing\skin\hair\etc. if there is a release of fission products (ie Cesium 137, etc) it will prevent you from long term issues if you can get away soon.
“Not all rubbers are made the same”
Boy, I’ve been there... 😂😂😂😂😂
Haha I kept thinking about that when I said it.
Everything you said here is right on point brother....NBC was actually my job in the army so I got used to having my mask and suit with me at all times. The mask I started off with was a usgi m17, and later we upgraded to m40 masks, and we had the full charcoal lined mopp suit and butyl rubber gloves and boots, and we were protected from pretty much any biological or chemical threat... And some degree of radiological as well depending on the radiation level. You have put together a very good set of ppe preps there my friend... Keep the great informative videos coming.
Thanks for the input Vincent! And feel free to give out any advice that might help those who are new to it all!
I purchased 2, M17 gas masks. And one of the charcoal lined mopp suits still sealed in original bag. Lots of replacement filters for mask i put away and rubber gloves, no over boots yet.
Should be good enough and masks still seal properly and bought new replacement parts to rebuild masks several times.
Also found laser protective goggles and outserts for masks
If you have a charcoal lined suit...2 things...the are useless if they get wet, if they are the cloth covered ones. And the military suggests you change the suit after 30 minutes especially if you are sweating, which you will because they are HOT!!
How effective or safe are the C2A1 filters ??
@@davidmcpherson9260 How are charcoal-lined suits useless if they get wet? Activated carbon can filter water too...
If i may add more info. Keep your butyl rubber gloves and mask as well as inlet and outlet valves covered in a light coat of talcum powder. The small silicone/butyl rubber outlet valve disks can sometimes stick. The gloves can be a pain to put on if they were in a hot environment. The talcum powder will stop the finger thumbs from sticking together. Also add a roll of duct tape to your list to seal the gloves and boots to your suit. Many have been contaminated because they raised their arms above their heads and the agent slid along the outside of the glove and got underneath the suit.
Great advice thank you!
Agree with Dave , also when using the tape to seal the gloves to suit . Once completed tapping around the wrist, use more tape and make a fold like a tab. That will aid in removing the suit. Also watch a video on how to property take off a suit once it comes into contact with a contaminant. You can have the greatest PPE on the market. But it'll be useless if you Doff the gear improperly.
Great video. Love your humor man. You deliver great, practical, relevant content. But one of my favorite things is you slide some great humor in there along with everything else. Thank you for the energy in your productions.
Haha well thanks for that I appreciate it!
I cracked up when you were throwing the masks at the first. 🤣
We picked up MIRA equipment too. Good quality products. Side note: you can buy an adapter for the hydration system so you can connect the drinking straw to a camelback system. 👍👍
Don't worry about what people say or think of you! You're doing a great job; you save us a lot of time by doing these evaluations between different PPE's. Thank you for helping all of us here at M.P.
You are so good on this topic. All of the things you have on the table are good gear. Especially the masks and filters. Great gloves also. This is the first video of yours that I have had a question about. This is very important. Those are very good hazmat suits (don't do a lot of heavy work in them). If you need to wear a them and go through a contaminated area, Where is your decontamination (decon) and doffing area? Who will be helping you with your decon? The answers to that should be part of this prep.
Another part of the plan i need to research more!
Nice video! Brings back memories of the CBR course I took on Okinawa in 1969 with the 1sr SF Group and the NBC course I took in Panama in 1975 with the 7th SF Group. In Germany 1979-81 we were always going to MOPP4 during training. Really miserable in the summer! I wonder if IM-93's and IM-174's and atropine are still used? And chemical detection paper?
My man's is a prepper and comedian all at once. Loved the beard section. Man's is based!! Thanks for making this helpful video brother
That awesome that you gave Canadian Prepper a nod. I sub. and watch you both. Also like the "...I sent you that email. You know who you are". Blend in with lizard people. Hahahahaha!!!! This was a really good video. Thanks.
Haha I try
Love your energy! Great info. Good preps. Thanks for sharing!
Nice haul! I love all the prepping gear videos👍
Gotta love mira.Military surplus is still nice but mira makes some top notch gear
Everything I have heard has been positive.
but a little overpriced tbh, but you know its gonna be high quality.
I found this video very helpful. Last year when parrot of the interstate was on fire in Atlanta, I realized that a gas mask could be life saving in times of peace. It was a wake up call to the fact that ditching a very capable Jeep rubicon can be a realistic expectation. The surplus masks may contain asbestos, and maybe all the older stuff does. I don't know how to tell which filter canisters do, so the info on the newer 40mm canisters is a big help that I'm grateful for.
Part...not parrot.
Great video, and thanks for the insight on where to acquire some of the gear. I have an Avon c50 with cbrnf12b filters, not the best shelf life, but what I could afford. I would also add some activated carbon / charcoal to the set of supplies as you may need to decontaminate when reentering the home after an outing, sometimes charcoal is needed in conjunction with bleach. One of my CBRN concerns is a blister agent where it is dispersed using an oil as a catalyst, so it will stick to everything and be a nightmare to clean off. I keep 2 bars of shave soap JIC I need to loose the beard, I don’t have to worry about it going bad or depressurizing, and it lasts a long time, just add water.
Problem with those masks is that you’re not gonna know when to put it on. Most chemical/biological agents are odorless or have an oder that you won’t recognize. Still, better to have that stuff than to not have it. Also, maybe a good pair of leather gloves to go over those rubber gloves in case you gotta do some work.
Great video! The 'next stage' would be knowing/practicing decontamination of the equipt. and yourselves.
Good informational video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks Michael!
Great preparedness kit. You have answered a lot of my questions. Is it possible that you could wear boots over those boots on the hazmat suit. Just curious? Thanks for the advice!
Yes you can actually! And are supposed to. Glad you asked!
Just in case you have to blend in with the lizard people! 🤣🤣 Great video as always very valuable info!
Good video brother. I would say this kind of PPE is in my top of must haves. Food and water, Guns and ammo, PPE.
Beards can be kept as some soldiers in the Iran Iraq war used Vaseline petroleum gel to coat their beards before donning the mask they used . I have the SGE 400/3 BB mask and carry it in the old m40 gas mask carrier. Much better than the one you have. Yours takes longer to don and clear than mine. I have the old m40 FPM as well but instantly loved my new mask after donning it. Superior peripheral vision. I served six active Army NBC and 14 active USMC NBC and was in the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force when it was founded. In my opinion any filter that is 40mm will do as in a SHTF scenario you will most likely face CS/home made choking agents and not battle field NBC attacks. Having said that i do have multiple canisters for long term use. Step one: Get a correctly sized mask. Step two: Learn how to use it and maintain it. Step Three: Practice wearing it and if possible firing multiple weapons while wearing it.
Great info thanks so much!
Don't breath in. Stop breathing, and get the mask on in 9 seconds or less. At least to a seal and purge. If you can find an atropine kit make sure you know how to use it.
Face it. Nothing sustainable especially as a mere prepper, or less. Avoid the scenario at all costs or you will succumb to the exposure without a doubt. Or just pretend you really have a chance when in a sane reality, You Don't. Step V is to avoid. NBC is for the big boys club and we aren't in it. 509SMRT FEMA Zone 10, Sector 13, Camp 11, City 17.
@@lazenblaze9896 I worked for SBCCOM for a few years. I'm ready enough to get my family out of the affected area. Nuclear stuff is another story. If rather die in the blast than die of radiation poisoning.
Hanford Nuclear Reservation with the adjacent military complex is my immediate AO that we must avoid here. 3 options are go North, South, West...only North works best here.The wearing and operating in MOPP was always a drag and all the years I trained in it and went to War in it, I never felt anywhere close to being protected. But they instructed us oh yeah we were protected.... to a point ahahahaha yeah I didn't believe the instructors enough to bet my life on the BS they said. They know that we know that they know that we know ect,ect... 509SMRT
Great video.... Thanks for all the info !
Thanks for the support!
One thing you’re missing is the ChemTape. Gotta use it to seal the wrists, the seem in the front of the suit, and around the edges of the mask. The elastic is handy for getting the suit positioned, but it does not seal. Otherwise good info.
I appreciate you mentioning that!
Booties are warn on the inside of over boots, also use nitrile gloves under the outer gloves
Last year, southern Nevada where I live had about a week of very poor air quality and poor visibility because of smoke from California wild fires. So for a week we stayed indoors except for short walks outside to pick up the daily mail. When we did go outside we wore washable polyester dust masks and those masks did a fairly good job of filtering smoke too. We did not need to turn off our air conditioners -- the smoke was not so bad we had to prevent the air conditioning system from bringing in some outside air.
I never again want to train in MOP gear. I hated wearing the NBC gas mask, hood, those clumsy rubber gloves, that heavy suit with the layer of charcoal, and those laced on rubber boot covers that went over the combat boots. That gear quickly became unpleasantly hot to wear even during cool weather and produced a lot of sweating. I cannot imagine wearing my own personal NBC sauna suit outdoors during the summer here in the Mojave desert where outdoor temperatures regularly reach 110" F.
In our household, the plan is to stay prepared to evacuate to a clean zone if there is the threat that outdoor conditions will become hazardous to humans because of radioactive plumes or toxic chemical spills. If the hazard is considered mild and of short duration, we will just shelter in place if the weather is cool. We have the means to seal up all the doors, windows and vents with duck/duct tape and plastic sheeting. If the weather is too hot to go without air conditioning, we will just evacuate. No way am I ever going to voluntarily put on MOP gear again.
If you opt for having NBC masks, make sure you know how to check for a good seal and how to clear that mask. And make sure you know how to safely clean those masks after every use. The masks come in different sizes and women and teens often need the small or extra small size. Eyeglasses will not fit inside most NBC gas masks, so you may need special eyeglasses designed to fit inside the mask if you have corrected vision. And forget about wearing contact lenses with a gas mask unless you are willing to not be able to do anything about a painful chunk of dust or an eyelash that gets under the lens. Tear gas canisters provide the opportunity for a realistic test of the seal on your NBC mask (only do this outdoors and stay outdoors for about 30 minutes afterwards so you do not bring the tear gas indoors with you).
If you have the least bit of claustrophobia, forget about suiting up in gas mask and hood -- imagine having something over your face and head that limits your visual field, requires conscious effort to breathe, smells like rubber, muffles sounds to the point that mainly you hear yourself breathing and is hard to remove. And if you have congested sinuses from allergies or a cold, you will have to breathe through your mouth which will immediately fog the face shield to the point you cannot see anything but a white glow. I can say from personal experience that stumbling around blind and disoriented outdoors because of a fogged gas mask is not fun.
My best advice is unless you are part of the team moving ebola patients or shutting down the damaged nuclear reactor or are leaving your fallout shelter to clear radioactive ash off the solar panels, there are easier alternatives to suiting up in NBC full protective gear. Just evacuate to a clean zone or shelter in place, depending upon the threat level and save yourself a lot of money that you would have spent buying NBC gear. Good luck and stay safe.
An excellent vid for those new to this level of preparedness and gear.
Your videos are always great info,
keep up the good work and
keep people awake & Ready
cheers.
You are funny AND informative!
I understand the risk of having facial hair with regard to a NBC mask. Because I have a beard too I have tested my isralie m15 mask and I get a solid seal I’ve tested on two occasions over three month period. I have also have sealed my filters in food saver vacuum bags. I put a mask on and shot my boom stick. Much more difficult and I need to invest time practicing putting on the mask and practice shooting with the mask. I made my purchases during the Obama reign.. I also have a portable shower commonly used for camping for decontamination. If you have to break out the mask you will most likely need a shower. I also have a case of plastic covering for sealing doors and windows. Great vid. Enjoy all your vids.
Ignore the comment critics. Nice gear and good info.
i bought current military mop suits on eBay still in the package and vacuum sealed because I couldn't find a hazmat suit under 150 bucks Mira and all those other places charge an arm and a leg so thank you for telling me about the DuPont one I am also going to purchase one of those. I wish I could find a video on how to prep your kids with gear cuz it's just me and my four year old son but I did get him a mask and we are now currently stocked up on potassium iodide pills as well
I love I got the notification for this video after seeing news about the marines getting sent out to conflict.
Timing is everything they say!
I got an old MOP suit still in the bag at a pawn shop for $30. Just like the one I wore around a chemical weapons depot when I was in the Army.
Plastic sheets, duct tape, plastic trash cans, lots of bleach, and charcoal. See if you can get chemical indicator strips, and download some tech manuals on NBC safety.
Suggestions: Duct tape and plastic sheeting. I’d want to be able to tape my sleeves to gloves, etc. Also want to be able to cover windows, doors, etc, with wet cloth and set up a decon area with plastic sheeting for coming back in. Plastic kiddie pool to catch contaminated water from sluicing off. Oh, and bleach. Lotsa bleach, many uses. Also would want some boxes of nitrile gloves and disinfectant wipes.
You need special tape, i think it’s called tyvek, to seal around gloves/boots etc.
Cemtape it's expensive
Love your show brother, One thing you should have mentioned is that the filters themselves are very short lived once opened. Somewhere between 8 and 20 hours/Filter. Someone may need need dozens of filters in an extended shtf situation....$$$$
If you want a good resource for learning about CBRN things, see if you can order Army Field Manual 3-11 or FM 3-11. It is the field manual for all things CBRN used by 74D in the US Army. Should have lots of good info.
Damn! Wish I would have seen this video before I bought mine!
Over the past few months, I've done a mountain of research for these sorts of protection. Based on my budget and want of a visor-style mask, I keep finding the same equipment you have as the best value for a full level of protection. Currently I'm still debating over which of those two masks to buy. I'm leaning towards the Mestel Safety SGE 400/3 BB mask (the one with the full-face transparent visor).
You're right about butyl rubber, too. I did a heap of research about that. Fortunately, I have a lot of documentation about the properties of various types of rubber, as part of my job. Butyl rubber does seem to be the best for blistering agents, such as mustard gas.
20 yr shelf life, how long will they filter? 6-8 hrs? I see you have 2 there, maybe 2 cases of filters or more for stock?
Great video! One thing that I would like to add is that the P3 filters would still protect you from alpha and beta particles after a nuclear disaster. They will also protect from any particulates. They will not protect against aerosols like most chemical weapons.
I haven't read every comment below but im sure someone has mentioned duck tape to seal your suit around the mask, boot & glove lines.
Yup but thanks for putting that out there as well! Good tip!
If you need to travel outside the southwest border of the Fallout map PPE is a must.
You'll need the 12ga for Deathclaws
@@MagicPrepper 😂YES
Is that the Pandemic boardgame that I see on top of your fridge? My wife and I got that game for Christmas 2020, and we played it on NYE. Lol. Keep up the good work with your channel, brother!
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A) When I was in the service we called it NBC.
B) What’s the difference between Nuclear and Radiological?
Same thing they just changed by adding Radiation into the mix. Guess some in the modern world weren’t smart enough to figure out Nuclear also means radiation, so they added it. 🙄😂🤔
@@blackriveroutfitters7185 Radiation can include Directed Energy such as is used to smoke us out of our rural homes across the globe (Paradise, Carr, Portugal, Greece, Australia, Canada, etc). I doubt if any of this equipment will shield against that. DEW heats iron to incandescence and alloy to melting point.
@@johnnewbold4622 no clue if it actually works or not. Don’t know a whole lot of people that have been in that environment personally, I darn sure know I haven’t been. Just passing on what the United States federal government (US Department of Energy) (FEMA), etc say that’s what it’s for........
Dirty Bomb Our Nuke power plant meltdown, instead of nuclear detonation. Really there isn't much of difference. I guess people just like creating new & improved acronyms
@@guytech7310 indeed they do lol
I bought all this stuff when Corona first started 🤙🏼
Good work!
@@MagicPrepper I went Israeli civilian mask straight from Israel on eBay
@@MagicPrepper I'd like to post a reply to you guys but YT censors my comment.
@@TuskeyeAndSon You should be aware that the mask nor the jab are not needed.
@@TuskeyeAndSon If I say the exact words it doesn't get posted. Think about that!
I got the same black sack ... found mine @ princess-auto in the surplus section. I made a kit we keep in the car & have actually used some of the items since. Love it so much i may get another if they have them 💪🏼
This is for you reading the comments, who is considering buying a gas mask:
While I certainly recommend having a gas mask (I think every home should have one for each family member), you need to focus on what is more likely.
You aren't likely to be exposed to nerve or blister agents, no matter how many times he says "sarin" or "mustard gas". The reality is without atropine, you arent going to make it through a sarin attack. And if a blister agent is being deployed, it would be wiser to don the mask and run, rather than put on a hazmat suit THEN run. Is it possible that WW3 can pop off with gas attacks and rain radioactive dust? It's possible I suppose, but not very likely. Plan for what is more likely to happen:
Get a couple CBRN filters to protect you in the event of a large chemical spill or industrial mishap (like the chlorine gas explosion at the port in Jordan).
Get a couple police riot filters to protect you from teargas.
Get a couple smoke filters to help you escape a housefire/wildfire.
FWIW: I would recommend a PAPR over a gas mask. The issue with the masks is they restrict your breathing and if do anything requiring effort your going to quickly run out of breath. Also those masks are prone to fogging. A PAPR has a powered air filter to provide continuous airflow. PAPR are used in hospitals (biological) and industrial plants (chemical) & also in use by Military for radiological events.
Second I would recommend a kit of Tyvek suits because you can afford to depose them if you need to consider the suits need to be decontaminated if your planning to store them inside. Tyvek suits are used in hospitals and do provide protection for radiological contamination. I have doubts that you need to use a suit in a situation that involves chemicals that can degrade by corrosion or leakage.
If an chemical attack happens its likely going to happen in a public space which you probably won't be wearing a full hazmat suit. For everyday carry, I would keep an N100 Mask close by, and a Gas mask or PAPR in a vehicle. I don't think any is going to strap a Gas mask to their hip when doing everyday tasks (Groceries, shopping, etc).
How does the canteen work, does it attach to the drinking straw or is it just a regular canteen?
I need to pick up some CBRN gear I don’t have any. I not sure but you should have something set up to decontaminate your gear and yourself
Where do you go if exposed and more importantly is it ok take the gear off after you leave a dangerous zone? Do you need to clean yourself before taking off the mask?
ideally you go to a location that has protection and an air filtration system. Taking your mask off will depend on the situation. Most likely if you can a a dozen miles away from the event and your outdoors its probably safe. I guess you can observe the people and animals. If they aren't dead or suffering, its probably safe.
In most cases you need to decontaminate before removing the gear. usually this is done by taking a shower or hosing yourself off from head to toe to wash off any contaminates. But that make not be an option in all cases. You have to use your judgement.
You take mask off last, you can clean your stuff with bleech water mix
Don't forget the DUCT tape to place around the gloves and boots.
If you plan to be firing any weapons with the gas masks on, make sure you dont get scoped. I did that with my service mask and had some scratches from the scope until the day I turned in my gear. Wont affect functionality but it is an annoying reminder of the one time you weren't careful.
I wore gas masks professionally, almost daily for 7 years in a previous career, had a beard for half of that. Utilizing the proper undergarments can still ensure a positive seal with facial hair.
Actual use experience... Buy some chemical resistant tape to seal your seams. Gloves and boots specifically. You also need to research proper decontamination and donning/doffing procedures and practice. Great video and really good gear!
I bought the CM-7m because it's better for using the sights/scopes on rifles. While the CM-6M has a slightly better field of view, it limits how you can use your weapons.
You should throw in some chem tape for sealing that all together
Good chem bio outfit. But nothing here that stops gamma rays. Stay in some kind enclosure with masonry or dirt walls until you’re sure the attack is over. Then use this suit.
Tyvek suit and only having one or 2 is a waste. It’s a one and done item
Aside from that what’s with the boy band 90’s look and all the bouncing around?
Yep having more is important but buying one at a time might be more feasible for some. And honestly, it's -18 degrees here right now so fashion went out the window.
@@MagicPrepper lol I respect your boy band look. I was waiting for you to bust out some *NSYNC lol.
@@reynaldorivera7641 I think he looks normal. Plain shirt and a beanie.
Thanks.
Thank you
I have some USAF gas masks and they have a straw feature to hydrate while wearing them.
Military surplus protective masks (“gas mask”) can be had brand new fairly current issue for $71.99 with free shipping. Comes with carrying case and one CRBN filter. That’s a smoking deal in my opinion.
That is a good deal as long as everything is good to go!
@@MagicPrepper I have MSA Advantage, MSA Phalanx, MSA Millennium, MSA M17A1 (training only), Yugoslav new surplus with NATO filter conversion, French ARF-A, all masks have new up to date filters except for the MSA M17A1 hence the reason its used for training only. I’ve used protective mask a lot in the military, while I was a firefighter and in law enforcement. I prefer the MSA Millennium, Phalanx and Advantage. I keep the Yugoslavian masks and French masks for training and/or barter items.
@@blackriveroutfitters7185 thanks for letting us all know. The more options the better!
Sportsman's Guide! Got some surplus Israeli masks and newish filters a few years ago.
@@meat-hook They have the French ones in desert tan for a pretty good price.
How much weight have you lost over the past year? What diet are you on? Looking good, bro
Did nobody mention the decon area setup? Hand sprayer, bleach, sheers, ect
Put a bigger boot over the suit boot. That way it’ll save that part of the suit. Or duct tape the boot part of the suit before you venture out.
Even if it has a 5-year shelf the military found antibiotics that was 10 years old and he still worked I would still use it as a 20 years
I can buy that through amazon or it comes out better on their official Mira Safety page?
Amazon works fine as long as it's MIRA's Amazon shop!
Thank you very much, they have one more subscriber ✌️
@@wolfhistory1891 hey I appreciate it!
Nothing wrong with second hand, budget, surplus...but...imo some things you buy fresh. Been looking at Mira frankly...
Great video! And I am an NBC expert.
Thank you!
What are you going to use for a DECONTAMINATION chamber?
I have Israeli masks for the whole family and I have some full SCBA rigs
I like this guy
Good video!!
Can u do video showing kits/loadout for different scenario
Nuke
Financial collapse
Super valvano
Winter power outage
Great info man but some links would have bin great
ModernSurplus gas masks most of the time work just as good the Israeli gas masks are great I personally like the polish mp5 but if you want something that is guaranteed to be in good condition yes you can get the masks he shows in the video but modern surplus masks also work and most of the time they are made of butly rubber
ok 2 questions, and not trying to be funny, what about pissing? Got a bottle or something or just in your boot? 2nd question is... Is the canteen some sort of something that blocks all that shit too or does your water get contaminated if not kept in the suit? For example if it was hooked on your belt or even with a camel back adapter. And even the straw, is that protecting the liquid your drinking? (extra question)
You can buy diapers for pissing etc lol, and most masks that come with drinking tubes have bottles that act as a sort of bayonet system that doesn’t let contaminants in but still allows you to drink
How does your significant other not kick you out of kitchen?
"Looks at wallet" Awesome gear but out of my range atm.
But for rubber items I would try "Meguiar's Endurance Tire Gel"
I use it to restore the rubber on my old mercedes and it kind of brings back old rubber to life.
Probably use it more of a rubber conditioner.
Ok let’s just say if it gets that bad do you really want to be around? This stuff only delays the inevitable
Where can you get that stuff out for when you wear glasses take the gas with my glasses I can't make a seal
ahem, pronounced "seeburn". Much love! good shit
So Micheal Hawk is a retired career Special Forces Officer, he is host of Man Woman Wild and a Subject Matter Expert on everything survival. In an interview about survival in general he had nothing good to say about NBC threats as they require so much specialized training to put on the equipment, operate in the equipment, and DECONTAMINATION. NBC threats will kill and contaminate if not decon properly and that is almost impossible without a team of people specialized in HAZMAT.
Good evening MP
Testing fitment of a mask and getting an actual
sizing tool is paramount. Nows the time to stock up, as it’s slowly returning to dealer inventory. There are many good reasons to have at least a good quality CBRN mask.
Agreed!
2 things:
1 if you wear glasses, make sure you have an insert to wear with your mask
2 one thing those filters wont protect from is chlorine gas, cbrn filters will buy you about 30 minutes but will not stop it from getting through, if exposed your best option is to gtfo that area
What do you use for CBRN boots and gloves
Marauders!
Gas masks are marauder fashion for sure.
Good stuff, hopefully you don’t have to use any of this stuff.
Wear ur everyday shoes then Don the Chem suit. After that get the big rubber rain boots just to keep the suit from wearing out as you walk.
Does the mask come with any filters?
Does it seem like MP took 100 addys before this video. Seems a bit more bouncy/jumpy in this one.
Do like all the info though.
I just received my son and GF full face mask RU6500S
I myself own 2 of those and everyone has half mask silicone respirators.
We only wear silicone.
Mira safety top class from texas
Keep in mind, once you start using that filter there's a "useful life" that may only be 8-12 hours. You might want to have more than one each on hand...
A filter rated for biologicals will most likely work for Aplha and Beta Radiation particles. Same with those face pieces. Of course none of that will protect you from gamma or neutron. Those you will have to use time, distance and shielding as protective measures.
LOL was about to say that beard has to go. The butul gloves are only necessary for chemical applications and perhaps if you plan on handling a high activity radiation source, but then you can expect a short life anyway.
You will still wear nytril gloves underneath them to help maintain some fine motor skills because they are all but lost in butyl gloves. So practicing anything you can with them on would be highly recommended.
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mask & suit will protect you from inhaling or getting isotopes in your clothing\skin\hair\etc. if there is a release of fission products (ie Cesium 137, etc) it will prevent you from long term issues if you can get away soon.