@@Maverickib same here, many a fire drill perfect seal with a beard. Glad my capt was cool as long as he was the senior most person on board. His beard was also glorious.
Dude, this might be the best dad advice anybody has ever given on this channel. This one is of lifelong importance even if you're _not_ a dad. Everybody should do this.
I've just started getting into cooking now that I've got 3 kids. Trying to clean up our diet cuz my wife learned that so much of our American diet is styrofoam and poison.
Amazing. Its painfully simple and obvious once you hear it. Its amazing. Definitely a good buy for less than 100 bucks that could save your life if there is a forest fire/house fire/gas spill nearby.
Don’t eat oil, processed food and too much meat. Especially BBQ meat. Keep the salt low and avoid sugar. Eat colorful produce and beans and tree nuts for good health. Get B12 and iodine. Cook at home.
I've spent much of my professional life in full face respirators. When you're doing the suck test hold the suction for a few seconds don't breathe out rite away. You'll find slower leaks that way. Also petroleum jelly on the sealing surface can help quite a bit with a beard in an emergency.
@@Spiritofaconure I've used petroleum jelly to seal scuba mask while diving with facial hair. If it's good enough for 50 feet of water pressure it will work wonders on a gas mask.
Note on the Mira mask since I’m a dealer and have gotten to test fitment with multiple helmets. They do not work well with ACH geometry helmets. They work fine with the opscore super high cuts. The Avon masks work great with all helmets but does cost way more.
I got a CM7M and the single strap at the 12 o clock position really interferes with helmets IME. Avon CM50 fits like a glove under my helmet. CM8M looks like they fixed that issue as well, would be curious what your experience is on that one!
@@peskyzebra the cm8 does work better but still not as well as Avon. It is a very decent mask for the money though. I will say head size can make a difference, so try and find a local retailer to try on what you want.
I remember going through the gas chamber in basic training.. You go into a tent with CS pellets burning in a can on a table initially with your mask on. The Drills would talk for a few minutes and then we were ordered to take our masks off... Holy crap.. A couple minutes reciting a few general orders was an eternity but you built extreme confidence in the function of that mask.
I remember that day as well. I was in the last group to go through, and the DS put in the measured amount of powder, looked at what was left, then dumped the rest in. But overall it was going well until we had to take the masks off.
We had to sing the first verse of the Marine's hymn after removing our masks. Holy crap. I've never seen so much snot in my life. Well ok from other people; when it was my turn I couldn't see anything. This was with the old M17A1 mask, which actually worked really well until you had to change filters...then you died, because it took like 30 minutes to change filters. I was an NBC additional duty guy during the cold war. I lived in abject terror of either being gassed or being sprayed with what amounts to super-concentrated bug spray like I was a giant cockroach.
I accidentally bumped into my DS going into the chamber, they were pissed. smoked me while yelling at me to recite the soldiers creed lol. Its hilarious thinking about it now. not as funny back then
Never had clearer sinuses than after that chamber. One dunce cake didn’t follow instructions (they made us hold the mask flat against our sternum after taking it off) so we got an extra just under a minute breathing in love juices while hacking and crying out of all orifices before they let us out.
Been in the Chemical corps my whole career. I did 10min on a bet with no mask in a SPICY chamber with some PT in the mix. Definitely controlled breathing and just being used to CS exposure helps. But it tore my lungs up the next couple days. We have the new 53’s (one filter, 40mm NATO standard) but I prefer the M50’s. Dual filters, easier to strip and clean and much cheaper. Unless you’re in a NATO apocalypse you should be fine. Put one on and go do some chores, go for a jog, whatever. Just get used to using one. I have spent DAYS in MOPP 2-4 and wearing a mask constantly. If you are a rich boi, invest in a PAPR system. Pro Tip: Your filters won’t protect you from chloramines.
Was is China though? or was it really our own fucking government headed by Fauci that conducted this testing in China. It's a miracle were not all dead and a complacent nation they aren't.
Now a doc comes out showing idiot Fauci actually gave funding to the first dude who probably spread it from the lab. So we put the guy who helped create it, in charge of controlling it. Insanity.
The NIH, NIAID, DOD, eco health alliance gave the Wuhan institute of virology millions in biological research funds and gain of function tech, so there’s that.
That's what it is, that's the best way of describing it that's been on the tip of my tongue for forever. It's about the guys and the banter as much as, if not more so than, the guns themselves
My dad was a industrial hygienist so he had gas mask and needed to test them often. He had this testing kit that would blow tear gas out a glass tube so you can test the seal and filter of your gas mask. You would break the end off thee tube and attach a rubber ball thing like on a clown horn. You would then squeeze the ball and tear gas comes blowing out the tube. As a kid it was fun getting my hands on it with my friends. We for sure learned how much it sucks to breath it in and get the gas in your eyes. I would stand in my shed wearing a gas mask and then pump as much tear gas into the sealed shed as possible. Buddies would try and stay in the shed as long last one wins. It was good times, till my buddie went home with his face swollen to hell, eyes swollon shut that my dad got a very angry call from his mom and shut it down real quick.
It's called a qualitative quantitative fit test. And the machines put out a nauseous gas that will make you puke IMMEDIATELY. It's done to ensure that the one that is wearing the mask isn't lying. 😂 Over 20 years experience as a federal hazmat contractor and working with many men such as your dad in the industrial field. From full face respirators like in this video all the way up to Level A SCBA 👍
Mike UA-cam’s doing the thing again, I haven’t been notified about a single upload for like the last 2 months so now I have to binge all these great videos
Tear gas is banned by the Geneva convention even specifically by name, yet here we are where you might actually get gassed attending an actual peaceful protest. Wouldn't surprise me if in the next year they tear gas a church, because why not? Qualified immunity, not like its going to matter to them, and they still won't be as bad as a Uvalde cop.
A thing to add. When you are in a situation where you NEED to use these mask, you should exhale before taking a breath in. The purpose is to get rid of any harmful substance still left inside your mask. This is usually done before you do your suction test.
I've got a few Chinese copies of the 3M a double filter mask. I do not use any generic Chinese filters i use the 3M P100 ones. No intention of considering it for real NBC but i use but for things as mentioned. Oh and.: Here we are gathered to join a smoke generator and a pepper or cs canister in unholy mayhem. What Duct Tape join together may no mostly peaceful rioters find and cast asunder.
Great point that CS gas tends to spread. I spent a year living on an Army base and they used to rent out sections of the base to the local PD for training purposes. One night we got a heads up”Hey guys, the PD is doing riot training tonight and they’re gonna be popping off tear gas, so you might wanna close your windows”. Well, the wind shifted unexpectedly and all the gas got blown into our barracks. I woke up the next morning and my room had a funny chemical smell to it.🤦🏼♂️
This is a good opportunity to talk about people’s need to wear basic masks while doing things like cutting/grinding wood, metal, plastic, etc. Obviously you don’t need a gas mask but protect your lungs people!!
I smoke a pack a day. Still use a mask when spraying paint or working with power tools on plastic materials. The ones with replaceable filters work fine. I'm stupid, but not crazy stupid.
When I worked in corrections, we'd have to occasionally use an OC phantom fogger for cell extractions, and compared to the standard OC/CS grenades we usually used the size of the particles were vastly different. The phantom particles were way smaller and had a higher concentration of PPB. That would bypass our gasmasks constantly leading us to have to extract a guy while also hacking up our lungs ourselves. After this happened 9 times, they finally got us better filters so we wouldnt be filling our masks with snot and tears anymore.
they won't. it will give Garand thumb so much power and views, that not even the algorithim could stop them. so much power, that it would be unbearible. Charles would grow corrupt with power, and would fall victim to his own greed. he would do unspeakable things to get more views, the very things he swore to distroy...
Mira mask, like the ones they're wearing around @7:00 mark, the CM M8 ($325) and CM 7M ($275) w/o filters. Mira does have a great selection of filters and accessories for their mask! Their CM M6 is $264 and is very similar to the Cm M8 but have seen reviews saying the CM M8 is perfecting the Cm M6 Design and offers a water delivery system accessory so you can drink when in use. Was just researching these today and stumble over this vid a few moments ago. Talk about timing, lol. So far,.. nothing seems to be as good as the Mira mask. Still researching but,.. think this vid just helped make my choices for 3. nice one guys!
Would love a part 2 on surplus store specials like the M10, GP5 and other eastern block surplus masks. Of course, only the ones that don't have spicy fibers in their filters.
@Frankthetank123098 Lots of old Combloc gas mask filters use asbestos. Asbestos is very good at clearing air pollutants, but the problem with asbestos is it causes a myriad of health problems if inhaled for extended periods of time.
Yeah gotta be careful with that, do your research, and if you can't find info, in the case of the old Soviet chipmunk masks ( very little info and it's contested if they contain asbestos, I was able to import one to Canada and we have strict laws on asbestos) , get the filters tested at an asbestos abatement company. I have not and kept them in their original packaging.
@A I wouldn't recommend any combloc filters, honestly. Not only do they use the outdated 40mm GOST threads, most of the filters on the market are old surplus which more than likely contain asbestos.
My buddy drove around base with a gas mask because he thought his car had an exhaust leak. MPs were not amused and pulled him over and told him to stop. This video brought a rush of laughter as I reminded of this
You can get adapters fabricated to use any kind of filter with common respirators. There’s even options for changing your negative pressure mask into a positive air pressure system. If you do this then even if your seal is compromised you won’t suffer air contamination.
Mira Safety is basically a reseller. Things like their DOT ABEK filters are essentially rebranded filters that originally come from Russia and some of their masks also come from Russia and other places.
Yeah, way back on the fal video when he was shilling and directly sponsored by them everyone told me what to actually buy in responses to the pinned comment. Avon all the way.
The CM-7M is just the Czech OM-90 re branded and marked up 3 times the cost. Their masks are made in several different countries, none of which are American.
I agree if ur paying more than $150 for a gas mask, ur probably being ripped off. Something like an m40 would work fine in a SHTF situation it just needs a new filter. The filter matters more than the mask. I would rather have a mask made in 1960 like a gp5 with a good CBRN filter than a new Mira mask with a cheap filter.
Would love to see a proper fair test of the two masks with comparable filters cus this “test” was clearly BS and a marketing campaign playing on outdated biases… The Amazon mask came with a dust / industrial vapor filter (as advertised), which won’t protect against CS gas duh
I remember when I was in the (Serbian) army, they issued us M2 gas masks. Then we had exercises where those dudes threw tons of tear gas on us. They threw some small canisters a lot like those you used in the video, but they also had some big ones, like a beer keg... All field was full of tear gas. My mask didn't fit 100% so I did feel a slight smell of the gas, but nothing more than that, literally 0 problems. However, dumb as I am, I wanted to feel what's it like to inhale tear gas, so I briefly removed my mask... Let's just say that isn't an experience I would recommend... I do remember that particular mask created a lot of issues if you were running with it; you simply wouldn't get enough air and felt as if suffocating, but removing it in a cloud of tear gas was also not a great idea, as previously established...
I like how Charlie just stood there with the mask and his glasses pushed down at 4:29. Good as Garand Thumb videos are, they're so much better with Charlie (and his broken green plastic rake) in them.
MSA is what we use for work (commercial/ industrial sheet metal install and demo)around certain toxic chemicals. And its all about the filter, concentration, and exposure over time. I personally only use 3M filters for my msa full face and half mask for my home projects.thats one of those thing that you get what you pay for.
@robertas9818 organic gas/acid vapor. 3m also sells cbrn filters as well. I would stay away from new old stock personally. You never really know what condition that old shit has been stored in.
I think for the money and most importantly the cost and availability of filters, the 3M full face mask with multi-gas filters will cover most of what you need. You don't need CBRN filters unless you also have the suit to protect your skin.
there isnt much of a difference between the two as they are both "gas masks" the only difference between them is that they use different gas mask filters for different purposes compared to one another (and depending on model different threads), its much better to buy a cheap gas mask with functioning filters than to buy the overpriced mira saftey gas masks + filters.
Former CBRN specialist 74D and current Hazmat technician. If you have facial hair you’re afraid will not allow a good seal I learned a trick from a spec ops guys to ensure you have a good seal. All you have to do is apply a good amount of Vaseline to the mask around the edges that creates the seal and you have a guaranteed seal . Obviously if you’re conventional military like I was then facial hair isn’t normally an issue as there are few instances where you can have facial hair
My Dad was a hazmat driver for years and needed to keep a gas mask at hand for obvious reasons - was bucking the company on having a beard and his solution for sealing a mask around facial hair was he tossed a small thing of petroleum jelly inside the mask itself. In a rapid emergency he could just cinch the mask on tight, if he had a moment to do so he would just slather on the petroleum jelly.
Happy Father’s Day to all ya!! Micah coming through with legit dad advice! And as usually Charles reaffirmed why he is a national and comedic treasure 😂
Pretty much any gas mask that seals will work against tear gas. even if the filter is expired (and was originally of high quality). Tear gas is a particulate. The thing with milsurp gas masks is if they are made of a rubber that degrades quickly you would not want to use it against corrosive threats. Its been a while since I researched it but Butyl is one of the best rubbers for a milsurp mask to be made of because its very chemical resistant and degrades slowly
I hated the gas mask during my military service. It made everything more difficult, it was harder to see and during summer time it was hot af. The tear gas training was fun though as was the "going through a burning building" exercise. We only practiced on how to seal it yourself because during an active gas attack, you have to put on the mask lightning fast.
Purge your mask instead of ripping it off in the cloud. Fight through the panic and discomfort. Practice up drills with the rifle shouldered a little higher and canted to the left to reduce or eliminate a cheek weld. You will be tempted to press your cheek harder into the buttstock to get a good sight picture but that will break your seal and youre straight up not gonna have a good time. This is less of an issue with an optic riser. Limit the gear attached around where your filter will be so you can look down towards that direction or duck your head without breaking the seal. Try to breath out through your nose as much as possible to prevent fogging. If your junk fogs up, exhale a little harder through the vent like youre blowing out a candle to help exhaust some of the moist air trapped. Do more cardio.
Also shave if possible, if you have a beard and absolutely need a mask then smother your beard in Vaseline and pull the straps TIGHT; which is not a perfect solution but it may or may not work in a pinch
Mira makes prescription glasses inserts for their masks. They stay with the masks. I used to work in a chemical plant with a full face respirator in 120 degree heat doing manual labor. My biggest thing is make sure you clean your mask, they will absolutely grow mold. Learn to take it apart and make sure you have tons of spare parts.
10 out ten lens face man 4 calling it out about the origin drive behind having to even consider wearing masks in the first place !... gees , need more of that !
My favorite mask by far is the Honeywell survivair opti-fit I wore one everyday 8 hours a day for about 2 years in an industrial context extremely comfortable and seals well when you're running around working. it's a pricey mask tho
tell ya what they are really digging into the CBRN training these days. you guys did a great job showing the fitment process as well. it’s nice when people on youtube actually know what they’re doing
I think everyone should own a Gasmask. You never know when you need one. It doesent cost much and can safe lifes. No matter if it's smoke from a burning house or some othe toxic aerosols.
Bought a Mira safety mask. Glad it was tested hear....it's a good product, I'm confident with it. Just wanna note, the filter is rated for oxygen levels as low to 17%....anything under or real heavy work requires a breathing apparatus
The Cm-7m gasmask, aka the one from Tennant, has a narrower field a vision but is far superior for using magnified optics. Its actually what that style is meant for, having the two individual eye pieces recessed like that. It allows for you to get the scope much closer to your eye. Panoramic style masks like the other styles yall had are superior for holos and red dots, but do not work with most magnified optics. If your running in a squad that has a designated marksmen, you would want him using the Cm-7m so he can actually use a scope, while the rest of you use panoramic masks for a superior fov and target acquisition. That's just my 2 cents, I have no military background or nothin, just like studying history and tactics. I also own a Cm-7m that I got for $80 in pristine condition from a milsurp store as "issued." From what I hear, Mira gets them from the Czech military and refurbishes them, so there won't be any real difference with one you get from mira and one imported from the Czech republic. Its definitely not a bad mask, but isn't the best either, but its better than having nothing for sure, as I live in a big city, and with things going the way they are, a riot ain't an unlikely occurrence.
Funny how you were noticeably more confident walking into the cs gas with the military mask compared to all the others. Experience clearly trusting your equipment. Lowest bidder for the win I guess.
even the CZ OM90 masks wich MIRA sells as their own go for 200 euro. Just buy a Scott 3M FM3 for 180ish euro. 40mm filters are 10 euro for a FP3 and 40 euro for an abek3.
Happy Father's day to Mike and everyone in the video, and Happy Father's Day to all the dads in the comment section. You guys are important and matter a lot to many of us. Have a good day today because y'all have earned it.
I love how they never told us at Basic that the gas would deposit on your uniform and to keep it away from everything, else you contaminate everything and get a nasty surprise a few days later. lol
Fantatsic. I'm a collector and enthusiast for these things. I would've loved to see a more expansive list, a lot of the masks on here were either inferior to common and useful masks or way to expensive for general civilians. Would've loved to see you test the FM12, the MSA millenium, M50, etc, but the FM54 is kind of the general king on this list. I don't even have one myself but will one day.
I almost got back in for CBRN, did the 2 week course when I was in the Corps, fell in love with it. Overall still trying to get my whole family a set for all of us. Loved the m50, fit perfect, but i was always curious about Mira safety
Personally I think Mira is a bit disappointing. They sell Czech industrial and military respirators like the om90 at a steep markup to folks in the states without really offering anything to justify the markup. You can pick up the Czech om90 (the cm7-m) from surplus places for 105 bucks.
You pay more because it's new production. New matters because all rubbers degrade under exposure to military Chem agents. The newer your rubber, the longer it will resist. This is why surplus millennium are 200 but new are 600 or higher.
Had a buddy of mine, retired marine & survival instructor, tell me all you really need is a 3M 6000 series (msrp~$80-130) then buy the requisite filters which aren't super expensive either. They have them for pretty much anything up to but not including radiation as it's an industrial respirator similar to MIRA. He also mentions MIRA as another option just they tend to be on more expensive end.
The 3m 6000 are great kit. Used one for years bulking chemical waste. Even the Chinese knockoffs can work well but always buy name brand filters. I'm kinda aggravated they didn't even really test the cheap masks since they used the filters they come with. Those are usually only rated for paint vapor or sawdust.
@@moshikito4717 you match them to your hazard. I dunno specs for CS gas but I would assume you need something rated for organic and acid vapor at the minimum, slap a particle filter on top of that.
@@Kiamors Right? 3M has a ton of filters for various hazards. The masks they wear in The Division aren't military masks either they look like 3M respirators so even games devs know you don't need to spend $300+ for good chemical or biohazard protection. The protesters in Hong Kong have been wearing 6000 series for long time now. There was even a few posts recommending what to wear during 2020 BLM protests coming from foreign reporters & students protesters in HK.
@@Kiamors Given the burgundy stripe is "organics" you're 100% right those are straight-up particulate and VOC filters: not CBRN/NBC filters. They don't even claim to cover inorganics, acids, or ammonia. Pop a proper CBRN filter on there and the filter will handle more than the commercial mask itself will but CS gas should have been no problem. Buying cheap shit for exaggeration.
I used to fly Apache helicopters and we had to do MOPP training once a year and fly at night with our mask on. We were pretty much combat ineffective with the mask on. About all I could do was fly somewhere and land.
@@anonymous_friend Perrets Military Surplus out of Louisiana. Google them. I'm very pleased with their service. The mask I got was also brand new with a 2022 manufacture date. As new as that can be for a gas mask, I guess.
apart from the mentioned problems gt mentioned, the most important aspects is that, when you are purchasing for those items, they are more likely to be manufactured in line with cosplay category rather than military/militia grade requirements, despite any advertisement they may put up on the sales page/pictures. and only if you know your way around, you can get quality items with cheap deals, just like ebay.
in 2001 at the "summit of the Americas" I was held in a patty wagon for 4 hours and tear gas non-stop. The powder dries on your skin and then reconstitutes as you wash it off double the fun.
honestly the best gas mask you can still get for pretty cheap is the polish MP-5 you can even find them in some surplus stores go for less than a 80$ throw in a brand new filter in it and you're all set, great visibility, comfortable and affordable.
I personally like the MSA Millennium Mask; it’s hard to beat the full curved and clear viewing. While it’s built quite well you can get CBRN filters to fit on 3M, and similar, full face respirators; while the reputation option can be much less expensive with good filters they can be just as effective.
A cool looking panoramic mask for sure. But the visors are infamous for getting scratched up easily and discolouring/clouded after only few years (even in storage.)
@@owen1079 : I learned years ago to go with paint shields; they’re basically clear thin plastic covers for the plastic. But yes the big lenses are a magnet for scratches; nothing better for field of view though. I’ve never had one yellow.
3:50 In line with your encouragement to keep current on our training, I'll just throw in a Quickie here: If you have the option to install the filter (the canister part) on either side, be sure to attach it in the manner which works best for your kit when fully geared. Yes, I'm saying to set it up so that it's good when you have to wear All of your kit at once, since that's when it tends to matter the most. Think of it this way: It's almost always best to put on a slightly loose gas mask, and then tighten it as you check your seal. In fact, I'm sure you remember doing exactly this in preparation for the gas chamber during your military training. It beats the hell out of struggling to put on a gas mask, on top of, or around, or in addition to, whatever your current gear level is. So keep it simple, sexy. Lol Make it deliberately loose; And, make sure you practice donning and clearing your mask, and then shooting (or, like you point out later, at least do your snapping-in drills, maybe some dry-firing) while wearing your mask. As you guys just demonstrated, it's a perishable skill.
The way my country’s army teaches is to tighten your mask yourself every time you don the mask for a threat. It’s a bitch to get it all with no visibility and a time requirement, but it does work to get good fitment every time.
First happy Father’s Day to all the dads. Second, please please please do a cheesy, meme like review of a Bug Assault Shotgun and Revolver, and a review of the Red Rider BB Gun. That would be funny af
Garandthumb: *Successfully seals mask with facial hair*
Senior NCOs: ಠ_ಠ
I spent 25 years in law enforcement not being allowed to grow a beard due to gas masks. The first thing I did upon retirement was grow a beard.
They pushed Beards off the menu once again for the AF. With this same excuse 🥴
Submariner here. We grow out beards while underway and I never had an issue getting a perfect seal even with a big lumberjack beard.
@@Maverickib I could imagine if everyone had to shave that fine beard hair would not be great for the subs plumbing
@@Maverickib same here, many a fire drill perfect seal with a beard. Glad my capt was cool as long as he was the senior most person on board. His beard was also glorious.
"When you're at a mostly peaceful protest and you just gotta get rid of your local Burger King." Comedy gold.
It is, but when you think about it. It really ought not to be funny. They have taken over our government and we did nothing about it.
to be fair, fuck burger king
The BLM way of life, luckily no KFC or Popeye's gets burned down. Interesting isn't it?.
The real travesty is they didn't destroy GameStop. F**k GameStop
Burger King did that to themselves
Dude, this might be the best dad advice anybody has ever given on this channel.
This one is of lifelong importance even if you're _not_ a dad. Everybody should do this.
Hehe, "dad advice" doesn't mean it's just for dads. It's like advice that a wise dad would give.
I've just started getting into cooking now that I've got 3 kids. Trying to clean up our diet cuz my wife learned that so much of our American diet is styrofoam and poison.
Amazing. Its painfully simple and obvious once you hear it. Its amazing. Definitely a good buy for less than 100 bucks that could save your life if there is a forest fire/house fire/gas spill nearby.
Don’t eat oil, processed food and too much meat. Especially BBQ meat. Keep the salt low and avoid sugar. Eat colorful produce and beans and tree nuts for good health. Get B12 and iodine. Cook at home.
I've spent much of my professional life in full face respirators. When you're doing the suck test hold the suction for a few seconds don't breathe out rite away. You'll find slower leaks that way. Also petroleum jelly on the sealing surface can help quite a bit with a beard in an emergency.
Really cool
right
Really petroleum jelly? But do you have to apply right before putting it on? What do you do for work? Darth Vader?
@@Spiritofaconure I imagine its just there to fill in the gaps made by the facial hair to get a better seal, so yeah just before putting it on
@@Spiritofaconure I've used petroleum jelly to seal scuba mask while diving with facial hair. If it's good enough for 50 feet of water pressure it will work wonders on a gas mask.
Happy Father’s Day dad
It’s DADDY
Hmm what’s that
@@breinfoxwell7339a farther figure if you have
It’s flannel daddy
Uncle Garand
Charlie is seriously one of the funniest people I know of. I literally laugh out loud so much at these videos with his comments
As a painter I can fully attest to the value of a good respirator.
For sure. You don't want to screw up your high by breathing in a bunch of painting chemicals.
@@reedr1659 Lol.
I learned today. Next time I will be using one
As a failed painter, I can fully attest to the value of a good gassing
B stupid question but would the 3m 6000 respirator work with the mustard gas and what not
Note on the Mira mask since I’m a dealer and have gotten to test fitment with multiple helmets. They do not work well with ACH geometry helmets. They work fine with the opscore super high cuts. The Avon masks work great with all helmets but does cost way more.
Thanks for the info!
I got a CM7M and the single strap at the 12 o clock position really interferes with helmets IME. Avon CM50 fits like a glove under my helmet. CM8M looks like they fixed that issue as well, would be curious what your experience is on that one!
@@peskyzebra the cm8 does work better but still not as well as Avon. It is a very decent mask for the money though. I will say head size can make a difference, so try and find a local retailer to try on what you want.
Avon is the gold standard when it comes to gas masks
@@Scott079 I agree. Avon as a company was non responsive for us and I have heard kinda sucks to deal with from other companies I know though.
Dude. Your sound bomb at 0:29 blew up my sound bar. It is toast now.
for real LMAO?
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I remember going through the gas chamber in basic training.. You go into a tent with CS pellets burning in a can on a table initially with your mask on. The Drills would talk for a few minutes and then we were ordered to take our masks off... Holy crap.. A couple minutes reciting a few general orders was an eternity but you built extreme confidence in the function of that mask.
I remember that day as well. I was in the last group to go through, and the DS put in the measured amount of powder, looked at what was left, then dumped the rest in. But overall it was going well until we had to take the masks off.
My dad was a drill sergeant, and told me lots of stories of doing this to the new guys in basic
We had to sing the first verse of the Marine's hymn after removing our masks. Holy crap. I've never seen so much snot in my life. Well ok from other people; when it was my turn I couldn't see anything. This was with the old M17A1 mask, which actually worked really well until you had to change filters...then you died, because it took like 30 minutes to change filters. I was an NBC additional duty guy during the cold war. I lived in abject terror of either being gassed or being sprayed with what amounts to super-concentrated bug spray like I was a giant cockroach.
I accidentally bumped into my DS going into the chamber, they were pissed. smoked me while yelling at me to recite the soldiers creed lol. Its hilarious thinking about it now. not as funny back then
Never had clearer sinuses than after that chamber. One dunce cake didn’t follow instructions (they made us hold the mask flat against our sternum after taking it off) so we got an extra just under a minute breathing in love juices while hacking and crying out of all orifices before they let us out.
As a former CBRN guru I'm qualified to confirm that @2:50 Charlie's glasses doffing technique is 100% correctly executed.
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@@chrisgreer212 Would it not be donning? please correct me if im wrong
@@rowandolman-williamson4592 I think he meant it as De-Offing. De
offing
@@jensonhartmann3630 Just from my CBRN experience the donning and doffing drills are specific things that you wouldnt want to get mixed up
@@rowandolman-williamson4592 Easy way to remember donning vs doffing in the future.
Donning: put 'D'at 'ON'
Doffing: take 'D'at 'OFF'
Been in the Chemical corps my whole career. I did 10min on a bet with no mask in a SPICY chamber with some PT in the mix. Definitely controlled breathing and just being used to CS exposure helps. But it tore my lungs up the next couple days. We have the new 53’s (one filter, 40mm NATO standard) but I prefer the M50’s. Dual filters, easier to strip and clean and much cheaper. Unless you’re in a NATO apocalypse you should be fine.
Put one on and go do some chores, go for a jog, whatever. Just get used to using one. I have spent DAYS in MOPP 2-4 and wearing a mask constantly. If you are a rich boi, invest in a PAPR system.
Pro Tip: Your filters won’t protect you from chloramines.
Do you think mixing a cheap mask with a quality filter would give a good result?
@@mida42Im not that knowledgeable but as long as the filter screw is tight and it seals right you should be fine
Charlie was on fire at the beginning. The Chinese mask dig was epic. Love this channel
Was is China though? or was it really our own fucking government headed by Fauci that conducted this testing in China. It's a miracle were not all dead and a complacent nation they aren't.
lmao shows "2 replies" doesn't open either, comment too based for google
The dig at “mostly peaceful protests” had me dying
Now a doc comes out showing idiot Fauci actually gave funding to the first dude who probably spread it from the lab. So we put the guy who helped create it, in charge of controlling it. Insanity.
The NIH, NIAID, DOD, eco health alliance gave the Wuhan institute of virology millions in biological research funds and gain of function tech, so there’s that.
Literally 30 seconds in and I'm in tears 😂😂😂
This channel is becoming Top Gear with guns and I'm 100% here for it.
30 seconds in and they were in tears too
That's what it is, that's the best way of describing it that's been on the tip of my tongue for forever. It's about the guys and the banter as much as, if not more so than, the guns themselves
These guys are way funnier than Top Gear.
@schizokrvsader*was
@@jackfiercetree5205 British humor is different IMO, They are both very funny
5:28 "the filters didn't work"
_BLAMES THE MASK ANYWAYS WITHOUT TRYING THE MIRA FILTERS_
Charlie is a national treasure and must be protected at all times.
Funny I was just thinking that
Not just for his safety but also ours
And all costs
hes just another guy "acting dumb" for views, do you really think hes like that with the cameras off? you are even worse than him.
He needs Secret Service protection!
My dad was a industrial hygienist so he had gas mask and needed to test them often. He had this testing kit that would blow tear gas out a glass tube so you can test the seal and filter of your gas mask. You would break the end off thee tube and attach a rubber ball thing like on a clown horn. You would then squeeze the ball and tear gas comes blowing out the tube. As a kid it was fun getting my hands on it with my friends. We for sure learned how much it sucks to breath it in and get the gas in your eyes. I would stand in my shed wearing a gas mask and then pump as much tear gas into the sealed shed as possible. Buddies would try and stay in the shed as long last one wins. It was good times, till my buddie went home with his face swollen to hell, eyes swollon shut that my dad got a very angry call from his mom and shut it down real quick.
Breathe*
Swollen*
And lol sounds like fun
Some ppl have all the fun
This is whats missing from childhood today 😂
It's called a qualitative quantitative fit test. And the machines put out a nauseous gas that will make you puke IMMEDIATELY. It's done to ensure that the one that is wearing the mask isn't lying. 😂
Over 20 years experience as a federal hazmat contractor and working with many men such as your dad in the industrial field. From full face respirators like in this video all the way up to Level A SCBA 👍
@@ninjajellyfish1954that and BB Gun Wars.
Mike UA-cam’s doing the thing again, I haven’t been notified about a single upload for like the last 2 months so now I have to binge all these great videos
You know it's going to be a great episode when Charlie starts off spitting fire!
Finally, testing the limits of the *Geneva Suggestion* comes full circle
T.Rex arms paired a gas mask with a shotgun in their belt video if ya really want to start thinking about the Geneva checklist
Geneva checklist
Geneva *Terms* *of* *Service* *Agreement*
Everyone clicks "Agree" but you don't live by them, and hope you don't get caught.
@@andreivaldez2929 holy shit that's genius
Tear gas is banned by the Geneva convention even specifically by name, yet here we are where you might actually get gassed attending an actual peaceful protest. Wouldn't surprise me if in the next year they tear gas a church, because why not? Qualified immunity, not like its going to matter to them, and they still won't be as bad as a Uvalde cop.
Huge props to the camera man for always keeping a steady shot even going through the tear gas, what a real trooper!
A thing to add. When you are in a situation where you NEED to use these mask, you should exhale before taking a breath in. The purpose is to get rid of any harmful substance still left inside your mask. This is usually done before you do your suction test.
Yup. That was taught as part of the donning respirator and changing canister filter drill in the British Armed Forces.
Yeah it was taught to me during my Basic Military Qualifications while I was in the Canadian Armed Forces
Did you know that exhaling is a part of breathing?
Purge/Seal
I've got a few Chinese copies of the 3M a double filter mask. I do not use any generic Chinese filters i use the 3M P100 ones. No intention of considering it for real NBC but i use but for things as mentioned.
Oh and.: Here we are gathered to join a smoke generator and a pepper or cs canister in unholy mayhem.
What Duct Tape join together may no mostly peaceful rioters find and cast asunder.
Great point that CS gas tends to spread. I spent a year living on an Army base and they used to rent out sections of the base to the local PD for training purposes. One night we got a heads up”Hey guys, the PD is doing riot training tonight and they’re gonna be popping off tear gas, so you might wanna close your windows”. Well, the wind shifted unexpectedly and all the gas got blown into our barracks. I woke up the next morning and my room had a funny chemical smell to it.🤦🏼♂️
So... You got choked in the middle of your sleep? And woke in tears?
@@PrograErrorsounds hot ngl
after taking a cbrn class, you really have to some solid terrain and weather analysis before popping off gas
Mildly informative, Massively entertaining!
0:25 I wasn't ready for that montage. I had to replay it several times. It was amazing.
This is a good opportunity to talk about people’s need to wear basic masks while doing things like cutting/grinding wood, metal, plastic, etc. Obviously you don’t need a gas mask but protect your lungs people!!
esp things like spray paint..that crap goes in & ain't coming back out. great way to lower your cardio ability aaha.
Yup. I've known people who never smoked a single cigarette and still died of lung cancer
Get out of here
I smoke a pack a day. Still use a mask when spraying paint or working with power tools on plastic materials. The ones with replaceable filters work fine.
I'm stupid, but not crazy stupid.
You ain't kidding, brother. Leaf blowing without a mask is the new smoking.
If there's dust, you must!
Integrating actual information and comedy is a good format. Keep up the videos.
charlie always makes my sunday, keep up the great work
When I worked in corrections, we'd have to occasionally use an OC phantom fogger for cell extractions, and compared to the standard OC/CS grenades we usually used the size of the particles were vastly different. The phantom particles were way smaller and had a higher concentration of PPB. That would bypass our gasmasks constantly leading us to have to extract a guy while also hacking up our lungs ourselves. After this happened 9 times, they finally got us better filters so we wouldnt be filling our masks with snot and tears anymore.
You guys got mask? We got a good luck move fast
@@Garbonzobeanandblackbeans lol, you sound like a lot of the older guys I used to work with there. Absolutely awesome dudes.
Lol you guys gassed yourselves
6:48 “Yeah Mine works pretty good” (takes mask off and walks into gas) haha fantastic!!
Always love seeing Charlie throwing Mike off his game 😂
I wanna see a reality show of you guys just doing regular shit with Charlie around.
they won't. it will give Garand thumb so much power and views, that not even the algorithim could stop them. so much power, that it would be unbearible. Charles would grow corrupt with power, and would fall victim to his own greed. he would do unspeakable things to get more views, the very things he swore to distroy...
@@CharlesChamberlain-rb5ze HE WILL BRING PEACE AND UNITY TO HIS NEW EMPIRE
@@CharlesChamberlain-rb5ze Exactly 100%
Mira mask, like the ones they're wearing around @7:00 mark, the CM M8 ($325) and CM 7M ($275) w/o filters. Mira does have a great selection of filters and accessories for their mask! Their CM M6 is $264 and is very similar to the Cm M8 but have seen reviews saying the CM M8 is perfecting the Cm M6 Design and offers a water delivery system accessory so you can drink when in use. Was just researching these today and stumble over this vid a few moments ago. Talk about timing, lol. So far,.. nothing seems to be as good as the Mira mask. Still researching but,.. think this vid just helped make my choices for 3. nice one guys!
Would love a part 2 on surplus store specials like the M10, GP5 and other eastern block surplus masks. Of course, only the ones that don't have spicy fibers in their filters.
@Frankthetank-et7woWhat do you know now for the uninformed?
@@anonymous_friend In case he doesn't answer: asbestos.
@Frankthetank123098 Lots of old Combloc gas mask filters use asbestos. Asbestos is very good at clearing air pollutants, but the problem with asbestos is it causes a myriad of health problems if inhaled for extended periods of time.
Yeah gotta be careful with that, do your research, and if you can't find info, in the case of the old Soviet chipmunk masks ( very little info and it's contested if they contain asbestos, I was able to import one to Canada and we have strict laws on asbestos) , get the filters tested at an asbestos abatement company. I have not and kept them in their original packaging.
@A I wouldn't recommend any combloc filters, honestly. Not only do they use the outdated 40mm GOST threads, most of the filters on the market are old surplus which more than likely contain asbestos.
My buddy drove around base with a gas mask because he thought his car had an exhaust leak. MPs were not amused and pulled him over and told him to stop. This video brought a rush of laughter as I reminded of this
You can get adapters fabricated to use any kind of filter with common respirators. There’s even options for changing your negative pressure mask into a positive air pressure system. If you do this then even if your seal is compromised you won’t suffer air contamination.
Mira Safety is basically a reseller. Things like their DOT ABEK filters are essentially rebranded filters that originally come from Russia and some of their masks also come from Russia and other places.
I wonder how long till this gets deleted
Yeah, way back on the fal video when he was shilling and directly sponsored by them everyone told me what to actually buy in responses to the pinned comment. Avon all the way.
I thought they came from the Czech Republic
The CM-7M is just the Czech OM-90 re branded and marked up 3 times the cost. Their masks are made in several different countries, none of which are American.
I agree if ur paying more than $150 for a gas mask, ur probably being ripped off. Something like an m40 would work fine in a SHTF situation it just needs a new filter. The filter matters more than the mask. I would rather have a mask made in 1960 like a gp5 with a good CBRN filter than a new Mira mask with a cheap filter.
I swear, Charles gets more based every episode 😂 💯
The man desires a rake...Let him Rake!
Based Charlie Meme cannon
Would love to see a proper fair test of the two masks with comparable filters cus this “test” was clearly BS and a marketing campaign playing on outdated biases… The Amazon mask came with a dust / industrial vapor filter (as advertised), which won’t protect against CS gas duh
Real world science! Cheers Lads! Glad to see chuckles back on site!
I remember when I was in the (Serbian) army, they issued us M2 gas masks. Then we had exercises where those dudes threw tons of tear gas on us. They threw some small canisters a lot like those you used in the video, but they also had some big ones, like a beer keg... All field was full of tear gas.
My mask didn't fit 100% so I did feel a slight smell of the gas, but nothing more than that, literally 0 problems. However, dumb as I am, I wanted to feel what's it like to inhale tear gas, so I briefly removed my mask... Let's just say that isn't an experience I would recommend...
I do remember that particular mask created a lot of issues if you were running with it; you simply wouldn't get enough air and felt as if suffocating, but removing it in a cloud of tear gas was also not a great idea, as previously established...
That was very stupid of you :) Thanks for sharing, dummy 🙂
Everyone should taste the gas once
💀
Good to know my M-2 should protect me if needed
lol
I like how Charlie just stood there with the mask and his glasses pushed down at 4:29. Good as Garand Thumb videos are, they're so much better with Charlie (and his broken green plastic rake) in them.
MSA is what we use for work (commercial/ industrial sheet metal install and demo)around certain toxic chemicals. And its all about the filter, concentration, and exposure over time. I personally only use 3M filters for my msa full face and half mask for my home projects.thats one of those thing that you get what you pay for.
@robertas9818 organic gas/acid vapor. 3m also sells cbrn filters as well. I would stay away from new old stock personally. You never really know what condition that old shit has been stored in.
I have an MSA millennium and Mira CM 7M I think the MSA never gets talked about enough it has some really nice features
@@StealthMode90 I have a Millennium as well and I like it a lot
Would love to see a comparison of gas masks vs full face respirators from 3M.
I prefer Mira
I’ve used a 3M respirator for gas before. It’s really the filters that are more important than the mask. I think I used the multi gas filters
I think for the money and most importantly the cost and availability of filters, the 3M full face mask with multi-gas filters will cover most of what you need. You don't need CBRN filters unless you also have the suit to protect your skin.
there isnt much of a difference between the two as they are both "gas masks" the only difference between them is that they use different gas mask filters for different purposes compared to one another (and depending on model different threads), its much better to buy a cheap gas mask with functioning filters than to buy the overpriced mira saftey gas masks + filters.
@@ramzankadyrov6035Mira says you can use their masks in smoke lol. That's funny
Hey I'm a Army vet, was a CBRN specialist and I made a 33pg book on chemical disasters for the average civilian.
underrated comment
Man…I was literally just putting some in my Amazon cart the other day not even kidding. This is incredibly good timing.
0:23 We really need an entire video of all of Charlie’s best moments
Yes
Former CBRN specialist 74D and current Hazmat technician. If you have facial hair you’re afraid will not allow a good seal I learned a trick from a spec ops guys to ensure you have a good seal. All you have to do is apply a good amount of Vaseline to the mask around the edges that creates the seal and you have a guaranteed seal . Obviously if you’re conventional military like I was then facial hair isn’t normally an issue as there are few instances where you can have facial hair
"I think it was the Chinese who were responsible for us all wearing masks in the first place." Pure fucking gold!
I mean he’s not wrong!
@@Perrin-the-Fletcher 😂 He wasn't!
got my like right then!
Saying the quiet part out loud.
i really wanna see you guys say "chinese government". i really feel sorry about what the ccp did when the virus just came out.
My Dad was a hazmat driver for years and needed to keep a gas mask at hand for obvious reasons - was bucking the company on having a beard and his solution for sealing a mask around facial hair was he tossed a small thing of petroleum jelly inside the mask itself. In a rapid emergency he could just cinch the mask on tight, if he had a moment to do so he would just slather on the petroleum jelly.
Where do you put the jelly? On the rim of the mask? My beard?
@@shaneciccarelli-palmer2962mask
Both. Get the squeezable type and lay a fat bead like it's RTV
that was actually some great dad advice on the fly! Learn to cook, life's too short to eat crappy food. gave me some inspiration there.
Happy Father’s Day to all ya!! Micah coming through with legit dad advice! And as usually Charles reaffirmed why he is a national and comedic treasure 😂
Would love to see a followup video testing some foreign surplus gas masks, with modern filters.
Pretty much any gas mask that seals will work against tear gas. even if the filter is expired (and was originally of high quality). Tear gas is a particulate. The thing with milsurp gas masks is if they are made of a rubber that degrades quickly you would not want to use it against corrosive threats. Its been a while since I researched it but Butyl is one of the best rubbers for a milsurp mask to be made of because its very chemical resistant and degrades slowly
Careful about really old filters. Asbestos or something…if anyone wonders why.
That’s only the old ones from the Soviet Union. Any filter over 20 years old should be discarded
For your information, the MIRA company just gets surplus masks, renames them and sells them for 10 times the original price.
These tests are my favorite thing you do. Very informative on product quality and functionality. Happy Fathers Day, my dude
I hated the gas mask during my military service. It made everything more difficult, it was harder to see and during summer time it was hot af.
The tear gas training was fun though as was the "going through a burning building" exercise.
We only practiced on how to seal it yourself because during an active gas attack, you have to put on the mask lightning fast.
My country gets up to 40celcius and I’ve never had any problems with any modern gas masks I have
@@dogeclanleader1you are not in full equipment kid
The sneaky cs grenade in formation, those were always fun.
@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing i wore an nbc suit with full load carry gear
@dogeclanleader1 how humid does it get there?
I like how garand thumb posts while I’m at grandmas house after church
Same. My Grandma wants to know what I'm watching, I typically answer "oh, it's an airsoft guy"
Purge your mask instead of ripping it off in the cloud. Fight through the panic and discomfort.
Practice up drills with the rifle shouldered a little higher and canted to the left to reduce or eliminate a cheek weld. You will be tempted to press your cheek harder into the buttstock to get a good sight picture but that will break your seal and youre straight up not gonna have a good time. This is less of an issue with an optic riser.
Limit the gear attached around where your filter will be so you can look down towards that direction or duck your head without breaking the seal.
Try to breath out through your nose as much as possible to prevent fogging. If your junk fogs up, exhale a little harder through the vent like youre blowing out a candle to help exhaust some of the moist air trapped.
Do more cardio.
Major key alert
Dont think you need to lecture former military on methods and tactics.
Also shave if possible, if you have a beard and absolutely need a mask then smother your beard in Vaseline and pull the straps TIGHT; which is not a perfect solution but it may or may not work in a pinch
@@removed7331 he knows what he's talking about. so lower your tone.
@@removed7331Different career fields have more exposure/usage of different things. OP is sharing experience here that is useful.
Mira makes prescription glasses inserts for their masks. They stay with the masks. I used to work in a chemical plant with a full face respirator in 120 degree heat doing manual labor. My biggest thing is make sure you clean your mask, they will absolutely grow mold. Learn to take it apart and make sure you have tons of spare parts.
Finally someone does a video like this!!!
Its always great to see videos like these. Its like a mix between a science and a review video, and i love it!
10 out ten lens face man 4 calling it out about the origin drive behind having to even consider wearing masks in the first place !... gees , need more of that !
Charlie's always on point with the big facts. 👌
Thank you flannel dad and team for getting lung cancer to educate us! 🙌
I have a Avon m50 issued to me via corrections and I love it it has never failed me.
My favorite mask by far is the Honeywell survivair opti-fit I wore one everyday 8 hours a day for about 2 years in an industrial context extremely comfortable and seals well when you're running around working. it's a pricey mask tho
When I woke up this morning, I did not expect to see grown men frolicking in toxic smoke like children. @06:17 "WOOHOO!"
i have that same Chinese gas mask and during the wild fire with all the smoke in the air it worked really well for a cheep mask
tell ya what they are really digging into the CBRN training these days. you guys did a great job showing the fitment process as well. it’s nice when people on youtube actually know what they’re doing
I think everyone should own a Gasmask. You never know when you need one. It doesent cost much and can safe lifes. No matter if it's smoke from a burning house or some othe toxic aerosols.
NBC gas masks don't work with smoke, use around a fire can cause carbon monoxide poisoning and suffocation.
I actually been waiting to get one
Please stop encouraging THEM to survive. You know of whom I speak.
@@johns1625British people or new yorkers
@@presidenteden6498 firefighters will always have my upmost respect. I hope it turns out those 2 are just missing
I didn’t even try to, but I’m a mechanic in a CBRN unit and I do so much Chem shit, all this stuff is great knowledge. Thanks dudes
Charlie just slappin hard facts every video
So glad Charlie is back in the videos
Bought a Mira safety mask. Glad it was tested hear....it's a good product, I'm confident with it. Just wanna note, the filter is rated for oxygen levels as low to 17%....anything under or real heavy work requires a breathing apparatus
Charles is now the reason I watch this channel.
The Cm-7m gasmask, aka the one from Tennant, has a narrower field a vision but is far superior for using magnified optics. Its actually what that style is meant for, having the two individual eye pieces recessed like that. It allows for you to get the scope much closer to your eye. Panoramic style masks like the other styles yall had are superior for holos and red dots, but do not work with most magnified optics. If your running in a squad that has a designated marksmen, you would want him using the Cm-7m so he can actually use a scope, while the rest of you use panoramic masks for a superior fov and target acquisition. That's just my 2 cents, I have no military background or nothin, just like studying history and tactics. I also own a Cm-7m that I got for $80 in pristine condition from a milsurp store as "issued." From what I hear, Mira gets them from the Czech military and refurbishes them, so there won't be any real difference with one you get from mira and one imported from the Czech republic. Its definitely not a bad mask, but isn't the best either, but its better than having nothing for sure, as I live in a big city, and with things going the way they are, a riot ain't an unlikely occurrence.
Where can i get it for$80????
Bunch of grown men messing about with tear gas it’s both amusing and informative, exactly the content I wanted.
Funny how you were noticeably more confident walking into the cs gas with the military mask compared to all the others. Experience clearly trusting your equipment. Lowest bidder for the win I guess.
if youve ever been in the gas chamber at boot camp, you will definitely remember to appreciate how that shitty mask actually works :)
Almost positive it wasn't real gas. It was clearly just smoke grenades they wouldn't put themselves in harm like that
@@taticuskillgore5543 i bet you could tell what color underwear they had on too by the glint of their eyes right?
30 seconds in and Charles is already dropping some bangers
Charlie is the man. Makes me laugh out loud. My roomate upstairs must think I'm nuts
I have a MIRA mask for myself and Polish variants of the Avon mask for my wife and kids, but armed with Mira filters. I wish you'd reviewed that.
MIRA are surplus Czech masks sold at a ridiculous markup, brother you got scammed
@@greencanner4284 They're not surplus, but in the US they're way more expensive than they should be.
@@greencanner4284 No they are not surplus, they are brand new. That being said, they are overpriced and the the design is not very good anyway.
@@KebeQ Any other suggestions?
even the CZ OM90 masks wich MIRA sells as their own go for 200 euro. Just buy a Scott 3M FM3 for 180ish euro. 40mm filters are 10 euro for a FP3 and 40 euro for an abek3.
Happy Father's day to Mike and everyone in the video, and Happy Father's Day to all the dads in the comment section. You guys are important and matter a lot to many of us. Have a good day today because y'all have earned it.
Great Video! I just bought a Mira a couple weeks ago. And great Dad Advice!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I love how they never told us at Basic that the gas would deposit on your uniform and to keep it away from everything, else you contaminate everything and get a nasty surprise a few days later. lol
Fantatsic. I'm a collector and enthusiast for these things. I would've loved to see a more expansive list, a lot of the masks on here were either inferior to common and useful masks or way to expensive for general civilians. Would've loved to see you test the FM12, the MSA millenium, M50, etc, but the FM54 is kind of the general king on this list. I don't even have one myself but will one day.
9:47 'It's something you gotta train with'
Airsoft and paintball players: *I trained my whole life for this*
I almost got back in for CBRN, did the 2 week course when I was in the Corps, fell in love with it. Overall still trying to get my whole family a set for all of us. Loved the m50, fit perfect, but i was always curious about Mira safety
Personally I think Mira is a bit disappointing. They sell Czech industrial and military respirators like the om90 at a steep markup to folks in the states without really offering anything to justify the markup. You can pick up the Czech om90 (the cm7-m) from surplus places for 105 bucks.
You pay more because it's new production. New matters because all rubbers degrade under exposure to military Chem agents. The newer your rubber, the longer it will resist.
This is why surplus millennium are 200 but new are 600 or higher.
Had a buddy of mine, retired marine & survival instructor, tell me all you really need is a 3M 6000 series (msrp~$80-130) then buy the requisite filters which aren't super expensive either. They have them for pretty much anything up to but not including radiation as it's an industrial respirator similar to MIRA. He also mentions MIRA as another option just they tend to be on more expensive end.
Do you know what filters they recommended?
The 3m 6000 are great kit. Used one for years bulking chemical waste. Even the Chinese knockoffs can work well but always buy name brand filters. I'm kinda aggravated they didn't even really test the cheap masks since they used the filters they come with. Those are usually only rated for paint vapor or sawdust.
@@moshikito4717 you match them to your hazard. I dunno specs for CS gas but I would assume you need something rated for organic and acid vapor at the minimum, slap a particle filter on top of that.
@@Kiamors Right? 3M has a ton of filters for various hazards. The masks they wear in The Division aren't military masks either they look like 3M respirators so even games devs know you don't need to spend $300+ for good chemical or biohazard protection. The protesters in Hong Kong have been wearing 6000 series for long time now. There was even a few posts recommending what to wear during 2020 BLM protests coming from foreign reporters & students protesters in HK.
@@Kiamors Given the burgundy stripe is "organics" you're 100% right those are straight-up particulate and VOC filters: not CBRN/NBC filters. They don't even claim to cover inorganics, acids, or ammonia. Pop a proper CBRN filter on there and the filter will handle more than the commercial mask itself will but CS gas should have been no problem. Buying cheap shit for exaggeration.
To be fair, no mask that I've ever used was very tactical 😂 It took a lot of training to be able to engage targets with a MOPP on.
Yeah, but they're tacticool as hell.
I used to fly Apache helicopters and we had to do MOPP training once a year and fly at night with our mask on. We were pretty much combat ineffective with the mask on. About all I could do was fly somewhere and land.
@@twc9000 I assumed Apache cockpits were pressurized TIL
I think it helps to have a red dot on a 1.93+ inch riser.
@@JG_1998 Yup, pretty much the whole reason for the carry handle mount, cold war and all.
I just purchased an Avon C50 with a couple of the Mira Safety NBCRN filters. Have some firsthand experience with it, and it's awesome.
Where did you buy the mask?
@@anonymous_friend Perrets Military Surplus out of Louisiana. Google them. I'm very pleased with their service. The mask I got was also brand new with a 2022 manufacture date.
As new as that can be for a gas mask, I guess.
06:41 when your mask works so good you forget there is gas around....
apart from the mentioned problems gt mentioned, the most important aspects is that, when you are purchasing for those items, they are more likely to be manufactured in line with cosplay category rather than military/militia grade requirements, despite any advertisement they may put up on the sales page/pictures. and only if you know your way around, you can get quality items with cheap deals, just like ebay.
Best piece of Dad advice I’ve ever heard. “Wrap it in latex, so she won’t get your paycheck’s.”
in 2001 at the "summit of the Americas" I was held in a patty wagon for 4 hours and tear gas non-stop. The powder dries on your skin and then reconstitutes as you wash it off double the fun.
Same with pepper spray. they hit us with some strong stuff in a training exercise and the shower afterwards was almost as bad as the inital hit
honestly the best gas mask you can still get for pretty cheap is the polish MP-5 you can even find them in some surplus stores go for less than a 80$ throw in a brand new filter in it and you're all set, great visibility, comfortable and affordable.
I prefer the avon fm12. I also have the MP5, they tend to harden with age.
@@anonanon5147not an mp5 that’s a French arfa falsely advertised as such
@@stonercat1232 Ah yes you are right, I stand corrected
I've owned a gas mask for the best part of 2 decades now, mostly for using music festival toilets 🤣
I personally like the MSA Millennium Mask; it’s hard to beat the full curved and clear viewing. While it’s built quite well you can get CBRN filters to fit on 3M, and similar, full face respirators; while the reputation option can be much less expensive with good filters they can be just as effective.
A cool looking panoramic mask for sure. But the visors are infamous for getting scratched up easily and discolouring/clouded after only few years (even in storage.)
@@owen1079 : I learned years ago to go with paint shields; they’re basically clear thin plastic covers for the plastic. But yes the big lenses are a magnet for scratches; nothing better for field of view though. I’ve never had one yellow.
Thanks for this vid!! Well put together and applicable !!
Micah and Charlie are hilarious. I continually die laughing whenever Charlie is in these.
3:50 In line with your encouragement to keep current on our training, I'll just throw in a Quickie here:
If you have the option to install the filter (the canister part) on either side, be sure to attach it in the manner which works best for your kit when fully geared.
Yes, I'm saying to set it up so that it's good when you have to wear All of your kit at once, since that's when it tends to matter the most.
Think of it this way:
It's almost always best to put on a slightly loose gas mask, and then tighten it as you check your seal. In fact, I'm sure you remember doing exactly this in preparation for the gas chamber during your military training.
It beats the hell out of struggling to put on a gas mask, on top of, or around, or in addition to, whatever your current gear level is.
So keep it simple, sexy. Lol
Make it deliberately loose; And, make sure you practice donning and clearing your mask, and then shooting (or, like you point out later, at least do your snapping-in drills, maybe some dry-firing) while wearing your mask. As you guys just demonstrated, it's a perishable skill.
The way my country’s army teaches is to tighten your mask yourself every time you don the mask for a threat. It’s a bitch to get it all with no visibility and a time requirement, but it does work to get good fitment every time.
First happy Father’s Day to all the dads. Second, please please please do a cheesy, meme like review of a Bug Assault Shotgun and Revolver, and a review of the Red Rider BB Gun. That would be funny af