Standard v Long Range convoy comparison of New 2024 Tesla Model 3 Highland
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Which should you buy? Well maybe this video will help you decide…
The main objective I wanted to find out was how the REAL range compares for each of these cars. The Standard Range is usually a bit more efficient than the Dual Motor versions so despite a smaller battery it still has impressive range.
But this is the first time we’ve driven both cars side-by-side in convoy to really get a true guage on how they compare. And the only real way to compare two electric cars is to drive them in convoy on the same roads at the same speed at the same time.
We’ll see just how efficient the Standard Range model can be but we also run through some of the other differences such as door card material (cloth v alcantara) and the different sound systems.
Which version should you buy? Well for most people probably save £10,000 (at time of writing) and just get the standard range which at £40,000 represents a bit of a bargain in my opinion! it may not be as fast but it’s still loaded with specification, performance and sound more than adequate for most, and the efficiency, range and charging speed all super impressive.
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One important benefit of the SR though: being a LFP battery means charging to 100% as a matter of routine which gives a day-to- day range comparable to the LR.
“ sure ‘bout that?” 😂
Exactly. No battery conservation regime required. >250 miles waiting on the driveway every morning. What's not to love about that?
I think I drove more than 250 miles in one stint a couple of times in the last 5 years (House-hunting in South West France, trying to get there from Newhaven-Dieppe to Bergerac as quickly as possible on the (beautiful) Autoroute). A realistic 250 miles plus an anxiety buffer of 30 miles suits me down to the ground for 99.999% of my driving.
It's a nice bonus, but then again who actually does a spontaneous 200+ mile trip on the fly without time to charge those last 10/20% first?
Good point. You can charge an LR to 100% just before a long trip, but not every day. I think the range of the SR is plenty for many people. I have an LR Model Y rather than an SR, but that is mostly because I wanted AWD.
I’ve been trying to find an answer to this, and the best I’ve found is that LFP batteries take a bigger hit in range and charging speeds in freezing temperatures compared to NMC batteries. But it’s tough to find any proper testing with exact data and numbers. Anyway, my point being that despite the advantage you mentioned, LFP battery range might not actually be that good in cold weather.
Thankyou for another great video, keep up the good work, haven't found anyone else who give such clear analysis with a complete unbias . I wish you guys all the best.
Another great video Richard, great comparison . I love watching your videos.
Awesome, thanks for mentioning the audio in SR !
Great video just what we needed ! Cheers guys best Ev channel on UA-cam
Very useful! Saving the 10k!
Thanks to converting to kWh/100 km
Having done about 200 mile testing on the Highland SR the fact that it will outrange my 2020 M3P supposed "Long Range AWD" by some margin just shows you how much things have changed in the land of Tesla efficiency 😅 Still love it though, but credit where credit is due!
Only Plaid Teslas are true AWD. The LR RWD with traction control for the front only - rear wheels have to slip to engage.
Why is everyone calling it highland? It's doesn't call that, even Elon said it doesn't call highland
Good comparison. Thanks for finding the opportunities and posting.
Always enjoy your videos and thank you very much for the conversion to metric.
Thanks Richard and team another great video. The SR is all the car I would need as it enables me to drive home non stop (most of the time) from my daughter near Chester and Gatwick. I also road trip once a year to my son in Zurich so I’d probably only need charge Reims and Nancy in summertime.
So the SR is what I would need... but the LR is what I want 😅
Ha yes that’s a good summary
I got 23' mod3 SR. It get charge many times. I do slow charge and I can do 100% all the time. But long trip, the LR will be better. I do want LR. Better sound, better light option, but 10k money different is little stiff. 5k-7k is about right.
Best Tesla reviews, awesome video again. Thank you
Nice comparison! Thank you guys...very informative!! Cheers!
Great review Richard, I was interested to see this one.
Great video again Richard! Btw, isn’t the charging speeds also different between the two cars?
Great stuff guys, love your videos. Really love the look of the new m3. Very tempted to trade my y for the new 3. Thanks
Great comparison, thanks Richard and Gints. SR for me; a better battery and my bladder can’t last the extra 120kms🤣Best regards Martin
What is better exactly on a battery that barely get more efficiency against a heavier car with an extra motor?
Another amazing video!
Thanks for this. And a mini review of the audio as the premium sound is not available on the SR. Very impressive range for a 57 or so kWh battery.
Very informative and helpful. Thanks gents.
In my Highland LR, I drove around country roads in Wales at the speed limits of mostly 50/60 with the usual 30mph villages, at 10°C with 60% charge and ended up with 191Wh per mile, or a calculated range of 393 miles, which is a bit crazy…
220Wh per mile on the motorway…
Wow that’s efficient drivetrain ..
Impressive! Good regen from the front motor? Richard noted in the video the SR had less regen.
Mc, its 20 mph in the villages.
Oops not much Wales, mainly Shropshire!
I have gotten range estimates of around 460 miles driving around flat areas in my Ioniq 6...In the California mountains it drops down to 420 sadly
Thanks for excellent review. I had a 2021 M3 LR for 3 years, very satisfied but sold prior to warranty expiration, and will now consider a rear-wheel drive version purchase in May (do not need car in Winter). Hopefully the speakers can be upgraded for an extra cost, as was possible a couple of years ago. And thanks for the audio-comparison, valuable! Happy to hear (...) that the SR comes out well and better than the previous version.
Thanks Pro regards from Holland
Thanks for doing this comparison, it looks like the standard range is a good increase and near 300 mile in the real world tests. I would choose the standard range as it is not often that I need the extra range and it would be far quicker than my current Kia E Niro.
Great vid as always the standard range is. all the car you need, The audio review was very interesting as well
Definitely worth getting the standard range for my personal preference,not to mention in summer 5mile per kWh would easily be achievable,cheers guys 👍😉💪
Richard thank you for an excellent comparison. I am convinced that the highland SR is close enough in range compared with my 2021 Dual Motor LR. Any news on when we might get the adaptive matrix led headlights on the M3 in the UK?
Interesting review. I currently have a 3.5 year old Model 3 Long Range. One thing I consider is the residual value after say 4 years of ownership. The LR should be worth more when I come to sell it. Maybe 4k more? Therefore over the 4 years, the ‘real’ cost is an extra 6k that would give me faster 0-60, longer range, better stereo and 4WD. Plus the battery range will degrade over time so the real world range will remain stronger. On this basis I’d go for LR again. Happy to be challenged on these numbers!
Looking forward to this one!
Great videos and reviews of the new Highland. I’m struggling to connect to Intelligent octopus, any advice on how to add a virtual key (on the Tesla app) to allow connectivity to the Octopus app ?? 🙏🏼
Thanks ks for the metric conversions
Hi Richard, great channel with really informative videos. I have a 2023 Model 3 Long Range RWD which I think would make for some interesting comparisons. Range in the summer was always 350 miles plus.
Thats what i was looking for. Thanks. 🎉😊
Ridefinement is important 😉 Standard Range seems like more than enough car for most people. Good test 👍🏻
Neat little test 👍
Richard - another great video, we actually drove this exact car on an extended test drive a couple of weeks ago, from Tesla Bournemouth. Over 50 miles on local roads averaged 5 miles kWh. Great test route, Sainsbury’s Ferndown - Tesla Winchester - Tesla Bournemouth?
I’ve got a Model Y LR and have been using an i4 and Polestar 2 for work for approx 5k miles each. Just had the new Model 3 RWD for a week demo. It’s incredible and definitely the best value car on the market
Thanks for doing this video, SR is the one for me. 286M give or take is decent and living in London will give me access to super charging is I need to, whilst being to charge at home too. Thanks for mentioning the audio too!
You are not going to get 286M on long trips or short trips whilst using the heater a lot in London. Don't expect that. This is pretty much the besdt you will get out of the car.
@@AirElectricAppso what do you think? 250?
@@BigRobLandanHard to give a number as it depends on many things. On a zero C to negative C Weather day, with short runs in London, a lot of stopngo with a cold battery - your best bet would be about 160miles from 100% to 0%. In a normal winter day if you don't abuse the heater a lot, with StopNGo, maybe 200miles. Maybe less. With the heater off maybe 220 miles. You will also have to factor in things like sentry if you use it (this drains the battery while parked - it is best not to use it when you don't really need it). In the summer 280miles would be possible in the city as a max range.
Driving in London use roughly 240-290Wh, driving m25 about 215Wh
So what’s point of LR then if your recommended to charge to 80% most of the time? Would the range at 80% on LR match or there abouts 100% charge of Sr? So get the LR if you going to lots of long journeys but it’s recommended not to charge to beyond 80% often. Understanding EVs is tough, maybe just stick to my diesel car 😂😂
Great video. I don't own an electric car but would i be correct in saying that nobody drives the full range of the battery? So if you wanted to plug in the least amount of times it would probably only meaning using 70 - 80% of the full capacity?
Even though the visual improvements of the new 3 are subtle they have vastly improved the looks of this car. It looks really, really good!
Does the SR use LFP over there as well? If so, 80% of LR and 100% of SR (The recommended charge limits) are almost identical.
Nice video 👍
This video makes me confident to buy the rwd and save some money. Thank you! :)
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Yay, I love your range tests. Thanks for showing the differences. I wonder how long it'll be till they upgrade the LR battery 🤔
You mean to LFP? Probably not for a few years. You understand that the energy density on the LFP is quite lower than with the NCx tech, so for the size, it is still not doable.
The future is to use 55 and maybe 70 kWh with LFP but also to improve efficiency (lower computer consumption, better engines, etc), that way NCx could end. But I imagine it will take >5 years to get there.
@@ricarmigM3P is a variant of LFP is coming that based on LFP with added element from NCA. I think already used on Performance battery
Bought an early Polestar2 2020 as Tesla demos at that time had bits falling off. Couldn’t cope with hard ride and sold it early on. These reviews are making me think time to revisit with increased comfort build quality.. and the network of course.
Spectacular. I’m considering buying one and realizing the difference of what is delivered in relation to the price is really very important. Thank you very much for the video.
Great episode again highland Chief reviewer So far in a UK winter I’m getting consistent 212wh/m from the SR on 18 inch wheels imo that’s pretty good at the price point
Thank you Richard for a real world comparison proving that both versions are vastly more efficient than its rivals. A certain well known motoring magazine should take tips from you guys on how to compare
Lol they are not
@@Aztasu Which EV is more efficient?
Is the LR going to survive? Especially if a performance variant comes out.
With how many times I’ve been to Tesla Ferndown in the last few weeks, I’m surprised we haven’t ran into each other. I drove that exact model 3 you were in shortly before you, so sorry if the seat was set really high 😂😂
Great video, thanks Richard. SR is a great car. Looking at the efficiency of the LR in the video, a quick note to share what I got out of my 2020 LR (Gen 1, no heat pump) driving one week the exact same distance and route, at about 7C outside temp, at max legal speed , climate at 20C, distance of 79 miles (M3 - M27 - A31), I returned 236W/mile. Did the same route with heating off and returned 229W/mile so not a big difference with/without heating on. You can see the difference between Gen 1 and Highland: 211W vs 236W. Still, the SR beats everything.
Couple of questions, is this relevant to the model y too? Are the differences the same?
At what trim level do you get privacy glass in either 3 or y?
Really tough decision. I like added surity of 4WD but longevity if you buy outright maybe better with LFP?
Hello! Can you change the display lights in the model 3 from one color to RGB? Multicolor
That is the best comparison video thanks much
tested the LR which pitches and yaws a tad too much for my taste during hard acceleration and braking. Is the SR better due to it being less powerful and lighter?
I have the ‘old’ SR with LFP and leave home with 260@100% charge, it suites me fine
Thanks for this very interesting video. It's the Dual Motor for me, but in the Model Y. Can I ask how you get on with the indicator buttons, especially when leaving a roundabout? I haven't had a chance to try the new design interior yet
I got used to the buttons after 2 days, all good
It is a shame that the cheaper car has the inferior audio.
Great comparison Richard.
How much difference is there on lease prices between the two as most company cars are leased?
How good does it look in red 😍
Is the SR not on LFP and the LR on NMC. So the SR "should" have a longer lifespan on the battery than the LR (if the charged the same)
Good one , subscribed now keep posting 🏎️
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Good video, I have been waiting for this one. I have the 2022 LFP and as proven on my tests on my channel, I get 280+ miles in half decent weather at normal motorway speeds on long journeys. The RWD is more efficient. Big advantage is charge to 100% each time. I think for £10k less, the LR is a ‘hard sell’ for most. My 2022 RWD is a fantastic car, I prefer it to my 2018 S. I drive everywhere no issue, distance is not a problem in the RWD. Looks like the new one may get slightly more miles, but not much.
I actually find the audio in my 2022 RWD fantastic, better than the enhanced audio in the S. Nice to hear this one may be even better.
Boring
Day to day normal driving you won't notice a difference. But as soon as you know in advance that you need to do a longer trip, you can charge the LR to 100%, and get a lot more range. So if you're doing quite some longer drives, I would still recommend the LR.
@@wavesnowaves the LG long range battery is poop. garbage battery pack. charges very slow after 30 percent its not a good road tripper if it doesnt charge quick. the ioniq 6 charges way faster im not comparing them but comparing the lg battery to last model 3 Panasonic its different. charging curve is bad
Do both versions come with car mats?
I've had my standard range Tesla Y for one year. The reason I went for the standard range was the LFP battery. 100% charging. No fire risk. Much longer battery life.
Great video Richard and Gintz as always. One question that wasn't answered in this and similar videos, whats the expected resale value at the end of a lease.
Presumably the SR takes a bigger hit due to the smaller batter and any degradation would have a larger impact on a smaller battery!
Seeing as you are in the used EV market, you are just the man to answer this question. I hope you do soon :) Thanks :)
That's a very hard question to answer because a lot can happen in a few years that will affect the resale prices. We can predict and speculate but the simple answer is that nobody knows.
Pricing second hand cars with the battery degradation on EVs is going to be hard for a while. What are the prices like for an iPhone 11 compared to an iPhone 15? I suspect that resale values will change to become much more like phones due to the cost of replacing the battery unless Tesla come up with a standard much cheaper way of replacing it with a reconditioned battery
I do quite a lot of videos about used EV market and demand v supply to but comment on what a brand new model will be worth in 3 years is nonsensical in this context
@@RSEV it largely also depends on what demand and people’s attitudes are to EVs in 5 years time once the rebates start to truly taper off. Currently in the US we get a rebate when buying a new or second hand one, but this will not always be the case.
Hey Richard, I think you missed the point I was making. I was referring to the current situation where there are SR and LR's out there. If you have two that have exactly the same age and mileage, are they the some price 2nd hand or is there an allowance added for the larger battery capacity?
Conversely, is the SR cheaper than and identical LR due to a smaller battery and therefore potential larger gross loss in range with degradation.
I'm not ask you to speculate on the used values 3 years into the future. I'm asking what is you experience with the factors I've listed above.
Would be nice to know, if you had that information. :)
Keep up the great work.
Just searched for this, nice timing:)
The long range is a bit of a weird proposition, you cannot really justify buying it given the price difference. I am glad Tesla made the standard range so good, I think all in all it is a positive for consumers. Would love a standard range with the bigger battery though and only a 4k increase or something.
This. The figures the RWD is pulling now from my own testing if I got another one Id seriously consider it over a LR or P the efficiency is rediculous. They are quick enough.
Wow. Both cars are super efficient.
Yes they are!
Thanks!
Best combo is long range single rear motor, which I was lucky enough to get.
I like it how this is a real-world test which has regen, charging, same weather conditions etc.
70 miles extra would be a massive benefit if you don't have access to home charging.
LR also regens with the rear motor. Only when it's slippery it uses the front motor
Great test. Interesting that there seems to be really no relevant effciency difference between my Model 3 LR from late 2021 and the Highland regarding range. I had real world range of 569 km when new. Now 5% degradation after 60,000km.
I am mostly concerned about the audio, but glad to hear its not that much different. My current car doesn't have "premium" audio anyway. Just waiting for delivery of highland. Cheers
At motorway speeds it kinda misses the bass and depth from the back, but it’s pretty decent really
Nice comparison test video. My nephew is all fired up to get a Tesla M3 of some description. Thing is, he can't make his mind up if he wants a used 2023 M3 LR or Std or New 2024 model. They are becoming very affordable now Used with decent low-ish mileage. My opinion? Seriously, if a Highland is going to put you badly out of pocket, a used heat pump model M3 is very appealing. Especially if you've never been that used to a Tesla, as he hasn't. Though he has test driven both those 2023 options now and loves them both, but also loves the sharper looks of the 2024s.
Send him to Richard!
@@rogerstarkey5390 I did suggest it.
Thanks Richard. I currently own LR model 3. When I drove the new SR highland, I was blown away! It’s far superior to the previous LR model 3. It’s very fast, very quiet, very sleek, luxurious and beautiful to behold. 👏🏾🕺🏾👍🏾🥰Thank you Tesla.
What model is best to do 200km total commute 3 times a week?
that red looks so good. hoping the insane insurance costs of ev's go down soon (in the uk)
Great video! With this car we have to consider the range of the driver because not everyone can drive 460 km without stops 😅
This is an interesting and helpful film for me. I live about 2mins from where you started in Sainsbury’s car park. I work a lot in London and currently trying to work out which is best for me. My round trip is about 250 miles, so both cars would be fine but having never had an EV I’m suffering from range anxiety and leaning towards the long range model 3 or Y. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I would get the Long Range, if it was a one day round trip. Unless you have a slow charger at the destination to add some miles on the battery in London. Tomorrow I pickup my SR Model 3. I drove almost 5 years the LR AWD Model 3.
For company car and for people who drive long distance very often, the LR model worth the extra £10k. Also, in countries with snow, the AWD LR could be crucial.
For me, the SR Highland consumes 14% battery during a 70km daily commute. I got 3,500km in 2 months and the avergae consumption is 12,9kwh/100km. That's 450km range on a single charge in average. I've not used superchargers yet. Only charging in my garage at 16A 3,6kw/h (slowest possible wall charger). I don't even need an expensive higher capacity wall charger. In 8 hours during the night it charges 45% which covers 3 days of my commute. I've already saved over €200 on petrol. Insurance a little bit higher but there's no road tax and annual maintenance. So for people like me it's a no brainer to have an EV. Fast, quite, comfortable, cheap to run.
Thanks for the video, it shows I've made the right decision with the SR 😊
Hi Richard, just wondering why you keep referring to Model 3s as AWD/4WD? Please explain. Model 3s and Y only drive the front wheels when applying traction control, doing a launch, pre-conditioning or going over 150 kmph. In the benign conditions of your trip both cars were RWD. The dual motor LR has a larger battery and a front motor so has added dead weight to overcome (laws of physics still apply to Teslas) so would be "less efficient" than the SR. So the additional cost of the LR gives some extra range, pre-conditioning and traction control.
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🤝👍 thanks for such nice words
Are the differences carried over to the model. Y. In particular, the Soundsystem…
Test drove the RWD today sound system is incredible very impressive and a big improvement over my 2022 rwd
Do not test drive the long range if you’re considering the SR
Ok i own a Tesla 2022 RWD, and i love the sound system. And you say its a BIG improvement? :) LOL it's better for myself probably to NOT drive the Highland to keep myself happy and keep the money in the pocket.
@@HermanWillems If you have kids don't forget to teach them about the emergency exit in the rear as it is like no other car. And if power goes have them jump the front seat as there's no way in to the rear from the outside.
@@twotone3871 no kids. Sorry. Wish i had them though. Not easy to find a decent woman to actually start a family with. Money is easy. Woman are difficult.
Any accurate for Rwd ranges pls 😊
Based on that test, LR would have 453 km at 80% (max. recommended daily charge level) and SR would be 460 km at 100%. So you would start each day with the same range and lose only in longer journeys. SR is a beast for its price.
Totally true. But to have an extra 20% available to you when on long trips it’s a pretty big booster
@@RSEV You get that 20% boost for the first leg. After that, you are likely charging only to the what you can fast charge until you finally get to your destination. It's not clear to me what that means in absolute miles but I heard it argued it closes the gap even further.
As long as you don’t need AWD the SR is great. In cold temperatures (-10C and less) the LR is the one to get.
I believe SR has RWD therefore the steering wheel feels better than LR which has dual motor. Do you think so, too?
I have an SR and I don’t think I could justify the long range and I’ve done 68,000 miles in 20 months so I’ve tested it thoroughly!
I wish they would do LR RWD like they did for fleet and run out models before Highland was released.
Low consumption so great efficiency, but low average speed 84km/h 52.19Mi/h . Overall great Car . Greetings from Spain
you didnt show the grey panel on the standard version, the one with alcantara in the long range
Does the driving experience, specifically regarding regenerative braking, differ noticeably between the Long Range and Standard Range models?
It’s not as strong in the red, obviously. Mentioned that in video. But still very similar experience
Thanks Rich@@RSEV
Great video as usual… I would love to know if Tesla has fixed the auto wipers? I currently have a Model Y and the auto wipers drive me bonkers! Also a bit dangerous. Apart from that the car is great… well one other thing recently has happened the memory settings for the mirrors has stopped working properly. So, every time I drive the car I have to manually reset the mirrors. I am thinking of buying the the new model 3 or waiting for the new model Y. Many thanks 😊
No they haven’t, they’re shit
I would love to have the standard range.👍
Have you done a real world range comparison (or will you) between Highland SR and the 2021 SR. Would like to see that 👍🏻
Depends which battery it has. I’ve seen 55kwh and 60kwh lfp’s so if it’s a 2022 60lfp then ultimately the results will be very similar
That red though.