Prosecutor explains dice-sliding scheme at Cleveland casino

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  • @parkerschmitt1594
    @parkerschmitt1594 9 місяців тому +15

    Why are taxpayers having to protect a casino?

  • @stevenlowe9807
    @stevenlowe9807 Рік тому +23

    This is not cheating. If the casino doesen't like how a player throws the dice, then back the player off. Casinos need to learn to protect their game.

    • @mp.music.2823
      @mp.music.2823 6 місяців тому

      Dice at supposed to spend like a spinning top on a piece of carpet. Casino's are crooks. They stump in the floor when they are ready to use their magnets. So shut up mob. You never know who they got on, around those tables stealing customers money 🤑. Don't pay at the dice table you will be cheated by the casinos their selves!!!

    • @disbsam333
      @disbsam333 6 місяців тому

      Its actually cheating, they have clear rules on how to throw dice.

    • @zachj8991
      @zachj8991 5 місяців тому

      Well you actually have to “throw” them

    • @woodsie315
      @woodsie315 3 місяці тому

      @@zachj8991 Dealers have the power to call "no roll" if the dice don't hit the back wall. The pit boss also has the authority to back off players for any reason. This guy didn't alter or substitute the game pieces covertly or anything like that. Prosecuting him over attempting dice control is absolutely insane.

    • @zachj8991
      @zachj8991 3 місяці тому +3

      @@woodsie315 you’re right and I know that because I’m a dice dealer myself… some dice dealers are weak and don’t watch the dice and won’t notice if a player is sliding the dice..

  • @WICKEDMS
    @WICKEDMS 9 місяців тому +8

    Only show it done once? I was expecting like 10 rolls same way. This just so seems like a weak throw

    • @E3323-h1t
      @E3323-h1t 4 дні тому

      There was no rolling of the dice at all

  • @rubioatl
    @rubioatl 10 місяців тому +5

    Should be hitting the back wall every time. If they got away with it. The dealers would have to be in on it.

  • @razors8145
    @razors8145 Рік тому +17

    The casino has the right to invalidate the role. You can't really call that a scheme or a scam. Just like card counting, it gives a slight edge over the casino, but is not illegal. If they noticed it then they should have invalidated the role or chose to not let him get action on the table.

    • @ChrisP3000x
      @ChrisP3000x Рік тому +2

      Cheating is ILLEGAL in LV. Felony.
      Players are required to ROLL the dice.
      Even a child knows the definition of "ROLL".

    • @johnlewis3288
      @johnlewis3288 Рік тому +1

      Surely it’s potentially a lot more than a slight edge.

    • @birdness
      @birdness Рік тому

      *roll

    • @woodsie315
      @woodsie315 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ChrisP3000x Players are also required to hit the back wall but it's not like the police are called with players getting cuffed and stuffed every time there is a short roll. Thinking that this is the same as introducing loaded dice, covertly swapping cards into your hand, or breaking into a slot machine is idiot think.
      The dealers should have just called "no roll", which they had every right to do. If the pit boss thought it was intentional, then he should have backed them off and that's it.

    • @ChrisP3000x
      @ChrisP3000x 3 місяці тому

      @@woodsie315 So you are claiming that not hitting the back wall is cheating?

  • @jaya1000
    @jaya1000 2 роки тому +29

    People are getting a year in jail for this stuff. Unbelievable. Ive been dice setting my whole life, legal at most establishments, never thought to slide them though. Seems like a waste of the courts time, let establishments enforce their own bans and let the legal system enforce trespassing.

    • @ericsweeney4544
      @ericsweeney4544 Рік тому +1

      Legal? No

    • @juanshaftpatel7488
      @juanshaftpatel7488 Рік тому +2

      Casinos aren’t scared of dice setting… it’s cuz y’all waste so much time

    • @jaya1000
      @jaya1000 Рік тому

      @@juanshaftpatel7488 if you know what you're doing they don't care.

    • @juanshaftpatel7488
      @juanshaftpatel7488 Рік тому +3

      @@jaya1000 but you dont know what youre doign..t hats why your rent is always late

    • @jaya1000
      @jaya1000 Рік тому +1

      @@juanshaftpatel7488 far from sir. 6 months cash savings and fully funded 401k. I dont take more than $500 to a craps table handful of times a year

  • @jemynq
    @jemynq 5 років тому +9

    Why is there not a Don't Pass line on that table?

    • @seanpham4521
      @seanpham4521 3 роки тому +4

      So people can’t bet against the magnets

    • @sportspokerguy3506
      @sportspokerguy3506 3 роки тому +6

      It’s crapless craps, not regular craps. It’s a terrible game that should never be played

  • @JohnBowl14690
    @JohnBowl14690 Рік тому +3

    Any bid to jail these people is totally wrong. The stick man can say "no dice" or "no action".... then the casino has a right to ban them. But jail? That's just not right.

  • @bpark222
    @bpark222 4 місяці тому +1

    1 the rules are both dice have to hit back wall, they could have called a bad throw and nullified it, seen done many times 2 is this the only example in this case there should have to be a pattern in the vets, style of throw, and outcome, at least two in a row multiple times at the table amongst the same individuals 3 that is a skill, an absolute skill, go practice that fir years and see how often you can pull that off at a live table, that’s a rare individual who can cosistently pull that off 4 anytime, anytime, someone can find and exploit a weakness in a game, specifically card counting, tgat takes away the house edge, casinos call it cheating, meanwhile. 6/5 blackjack, hit soft 17, double zero roulette, triple zero roulette, forget ever paying truebodds except at dice where true odds still leaves a house advantage and pays off with bigger loses on single rolls for those 10x 20x pass and cone bets, might as well bring back the mob with the jerried slots, meanwhile these dudes get a felony when the croupier could have just called no throw, please.

  • @willwarden2603
    @willwarden2603 6 років тому +10

    The defense team had one statement “fo get a bout it!!”

  • @rubenowitzv.3135
    @rubenowitzv.3135 6 місяців тому +2

    Casino pit bosses frown on winners!.. I’ve been harassed for winning, and go to another table.

  • @patlynch3464
    @patlynch3464 4 роки тому +9

    I used to like to bounce the dice off the mirror. It didn't give me an advantage, but the dice would stop abruptly. I got on a good roll one time and they told me I had to roll all the way down, changed the dice on me, and even invalidated a roll of mine. Why don't they just do the same here? Seems harsh to have a felony charge if the casino recognized what was going on.

    • @laclipps1
      @laclipps1 2 роки тому +1

      I have an idea why

  • @harolddodds5849
    @harolddodds5849 Рік тому +3

    If the dice both leave your hand that's a roll. The fact people can control the landing the casinos and police state have tried to eliminate that losing probability to their casino traps. It's ok when the casino puts in 5 dice that sure are throwing lots of 4, 10 and 3 more than 6 and 8 with lots of 4 rolls 7 out.....they know exactly which set of dice they're introducing to the table and yet that's called gambling lol....or the casino cheating

  • @ddee6683
    @ddee6683 Рік тому +11

    I don’t even see how they can get a conviction off this. Prove he did it on purpose…. We all know he did… but it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove.

  • @rodeldayao5987
    @rodeldayao5987 3 роки тому +2

    We're are the don't pass line?

    • @laclipps1
      @laclipps1 2 роки тому

      It's crapless craps.

  • @sherrytrullender1997
    @sherrytrullender1997 5 років тому +16

    Best believe I would of put a $1000 on the hard six.

  • @PeteCarma
    @PeteCarma Рік тому +2

    They also switched dice!!!!!! totally incompetent crew...one die had all 3s on it.....they switched one die at 30sec on the video

  • @Zedeckfeareducatedhamite
    @Zedeckfeareducatedhamite 4 роки тому +11

    Just close casinos... They have an unfair advantage... They cheat....

    • @jamesanthony897
      @jamesanthony897 3 роки тому +1

      True but not true....if you went to play a game and the person you were playing against told you that they would win more than you did by pure mathematics you could 1) refuse to play or 2) figure out their mathematics and beat them at their own game. I win when I play CRAPS simply because I understand what they do and how they do it. Unfortunately, casinos have a name for people who don't take the time to understand how to beat them at their own game....they call the pigs and what happens to pigs? They get SLAUGHTERED!!! If you are legally setting the dice and appropriately tipping the dealers they will leave you alone because you are their key to making more than minimum wage to put up with people all day at the casino.

  • @markquarto8159
    @markquarto8159 16 годин тому

    So because someone is winning, they throw them out?😂

  • @jkhdfkjashdfk
    @jkhdfkjashdfk 7 років тому +6

    How the fuck is this illegal?

  • @patrickbanick2174
    @patrickbanick2174 5 місяців тому

    That’s crazy they got a felony charge. Casinos fault for letting them keep playing. How is this any different from legal advantage play in black jack?

    • @woodsie315
      @woodsie315 3 місяці тому +1

      It shouldn't be any different.
      Actual cheating should be limited to actions which alter the game pieces or substituting game pieces covertly. Like swapping in cards, marking cards, switching dice, ect.
      Trying to charge a guy with a felony because you don't like his roll is insane. The casinos have to be big boys about this kind of thing and train their dealers to call "no roll" if you don't hit the back wall and/or slide the dice.

  • @virgilio1956
    @virgilio1956 Рік тому +3

    i am not buying it, there are chips and obstacles in the way. The two die when in different directions. If pit boss didn 't like it, he should have told the roller to hit the back wall, and if they didn't then leave. Not a crime.

    • @stevep8217
      @stevep8217 Рік тому

      right should have called no roll and tell them to hit back of the wall

  • @ugaugauga488
    @ugaugauga488 Рік тому

    I didn't see nothing much in that video. It was too fuzzy & distant.

  • @wilfredopugh5860
    @wilfredopugh5860 10 місяців тому

    The pit boss cheats at the craps table with the computer. The computer controls the table

  • @theiviachine
    @theiviachine 7 місяців тому

    Imagine defending the casino 🙄

  • @BeeHash
    @BeeHash 9 місяців тому

    Wouldn’t be enough for me to convict.

  • @stanleyrhee407
    @stanleyrhee407 11 місяців тому

    dice sliding is NOT illegal. show me the penal code if you keep saying it is. you can’t bcz it’s not.

  • @starkparker16
    @starkparker16 3 місяці тому

    No roll

  • @mp.music.2823
    @mp.music.2823 6 місяців тому

    You working for the casino on Dice spending out of control. Get off the air.!!!

  • @nj7068
    @nj7068 8 місяців тому

    Narc lol

  • @Mr.Caring
    @Mr.Caring 3 роки тому +3

    A good prayer:
    I'm a sinner JESUS please forgive me for all my sins I know you shed your Blood for me on the cross at Calvary. Thank you JESUS for my salvation and for shedding they Blood for me. I love you JESUS.
    Romans 10:5/10 ct...❤️k
    JESUSisLord!Amen.

  • @jayfray38
    @jayfray38 Рік тому +1

    Good luck with that waste of time in court 😂 a roll is a roll I’ve had dice slide and I’ve had rice not hit the board they could of called it but they don’t. These guys had a lucky run and the casino got pissed. Kick rocks