Pocket Bike With Electric TURBO And NOS Installed First Test Ride!
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2017
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In this one I show you how I Installed my $50 electric turbo on a 125cc X7 pocket bike, Then we add nitrous to everything. We get to do top speed runs and try out the turbo on this bike for the very time! The turbo is cheap and china made rated for 125cc engines. The N2o kit I used in this is also $50 and uses small cartridges that are shot into the carb for maximum power.
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this is an hairdryer not a turbo!
hahaha :D
kronproject2501 i agree bro.
(Blower)
Hair dryer might work ,,it produces more rpm,s,and has way more power.or force but you would need a real long extension cord ,,LOL,but theres got to be a lot more involved than just blowing air into the carburetor especially on a four cycle engine
Yeah it’s AN hairdryer
it doesnt work because you are adding pressure to a carb that is designed to be use with a vacuum if you want it to work you need to move the carb and put it in the intake of the turbo
+chris villarreal These are the comments I like thanks for the advice. I wonder if they make a blow thru carb for this
Dylon Desbiens they do one way to do it is to pressurize your fuel tank with a charge line from your turbo to the vent of the gas tank the problem you ran into is that when you increased pressure in your carb you also pushed the fuel away from the carb
Dylon Desbiens do you have a facebook
yup
exact
This guy is the king of gaining views without clickbaiting..
He had the turbo!
Honestly useless in itself.. and even placed in the wrong orientation... But he had a turbo!!!
Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!
It doesn't matter if I win by an inch or a mile. Winnings winning!
Too soon Junior!
Dom He's a cop!! He's a cop!!! Brian you a cop? 'Shakes head'
What's the retail on one of those?
More than you can afford Pal. It's a Ferrari.
Smoke Him...
😂
Is this a joke
it is to me! LOL
it has to be. the "turbo" is even spinning the wrong way.
HAHA! Yeah it is!!! Good catch
xDDDD
Chad thats what i was just thinking as soon as i saw the turbo 😂😂😂
After watching this my head head hurts.
Kyser my head head hurts too
Kyser yeah me too
Kyser me head head hurts as well
my head head hurts aswell
Sgofh
If you put the turbo on the intake side of the "turbo" it should work. But the has may dissolve the plastic over time.
Hahaha good to see you here Jake, even if its 3 years ago
@@dehCremus yeah!
Hahaha good to see you here Jake, even if it’s 4 years ago
@@TheGardenSnake hahaha good to see you here Jake, even if it's 5 years ago
The extra power comes from extra fuel, not from extra air. The extra oxygen from nitrous or forced induction allows you to add more fuel and thus make more power.
The reason the nitrous worked somewhat and the blower didn't was due to the fact if you created any pressure inside the Venturi of the carburetor you likely prevented much (if any fuel) from being allowed to be pulled out of the fuel bowl (through the metering jets). In order for you to see the supercharger to work you would have to make sure both the Venturi of the carb and the fuel bowl are both pressurized. Along with that you would have to pressurize the fuel going into the carburetor at a higher pressure than it is stock (likely just head pressure of the tank fed) in relation to boost. Other wise you will either flood your fuel bowl or run it dry.
To bad you don't live around my area, I bet I could get that e-charger to work with some tig welding and jury rigging lol.
Did he seriously expect using an electric fan to blow air into a carb to add performance? Man there are some dumb people on UA-cam...
It does work, if it wasn't producing any pressure, the engine wouldn't lean out. Just tune the carb, and let the "turbo" always spool, then you would probably have some gain, not much, but some.
DrivenMind Turbos spins at 100 thousands of RPM to generate boost, this is just pure shit.
DrivenMind
FYI:
It can not work at all.
Real turbos spool up to and around 17000RPM.
These shitty, so called electric turbo's are nothing more than glorified fans, aimed as being an affordable option for day dreamers.
They actually restrict the intake flow, which in turn equates to lack of performance.
Any one with a reasonable understanding of mechanics knows what I'm going on about.
UK Citizen huh, really. Then Why is it running lean then?
PMSL....
Running lean?
And you know that because you installed an air/fuel gauge on the bike for him????
Restricted performance more like!
The engine was stalling out!
Not because it was running lean but because the fuel ratio was too rich.
Are you seriously going to say that the air intake was increased to the extent that the carb was jeting less fuel?
You must be the type of dude these fake ass turbo's were put on the market for.....
Dyno tests have proven these fake ass electric turbo's reduce engine performance.
thats not a turbo, thats a turbo shaped noise maker
lenny face actually you could.. but that requires an actual turbo and more than zipties. In the end it wouldn't be worth any power cause it probably doesn't push enough exhaust to make any boostlol
you cant turbocharge a 2 stroke unless it has exhaust valves like detroit diesels did.
Not even it's a turbo shaped fan
ys
Justin Walters you can but it takes more than some zip ties
hey I have a same kind of engine and when i let out the clutch a little tiny bit it just shoots away. what should i do?
my hairdryer has more horsepower than that shit
ishiX your vibrator probably does too.
ishiX
You have a hairdryer?
If it is making any kind of boost you need to put the vent tube from the carb into the airstream. With the carb venting to atmosphere the positive pressure will force fuel back to the tank so that would probably have to be pressurised too.
That little cardi b hand jester he did in the beginning was why it didn't work
any boost pressure going into a gravety fed carb is going to push the fuel back and lean it out.
"Turn around the turbo to get maximum air flow" It's a fake turbo 😂😂😂💀💀
Ya,its reverse maybe..
Hi. I had tried this in my scooter but using different type of fan. After switching on the fan, the engine stops running. Why this will be happening
Stop calling it a turbo! it is NOT a turbo! Doesn't even work like one!
yup....its a toy super charger
matt sez Not even a super charger xD it doesn't give boost what so ever lmao
hence the word " toy" lmao....but i remember when i was that young and clueless......well....i think i do
Mysterian Intake fan...
matt sez
Lmao not a supercharger, it isn’t belt fed
when you add a turbo...your engine needs more fuel! or it will overheat
@@Ethanator-fy3cm like the first post said it needs more fuel in the mixture like exactly what he said you disagreed and said the same thing in your own words
and yes if you dont get enough fuel it WILL overheat. and..... the turbo will work with the right fuel mixture wont be as crazy as a car turbo but will add more HP as it is Adding more air to the carb.
More Air + More Fuel = More hp (if tuned and Jetted)
@@robbieseteg5418 turbos have to be run at 20,000 plus for it to work, you think a 12v power sources is strong enough to pump high pressure air into the engine?
@@Ethanator-fy3cm for a tiny motor like that one Yes! its enough for at least a slight boost as long as its tuned right. we aren't talking about a nissan gtr here.
@@robbieseteg5418 it’s not a turbo though, I doubt it will create enough pressure…there’s small usb blower fans that may work but it’s not going to do much, he’s better off buying a small turbo and using some rubber pipe to cold side and some copper pipe to hot side. Atleast then he would make about 1-2 hp more.
Even with a conventional turbo, it only produces about 1-3 horsepower more. You can seem them on go karts and they go under the same load and have about the same displacement. Roughly the same power.
+Dylon Desbiens
You wired the turbo the opposite way, it is now blowing air out of the carb instead of into the carb!!!
Reverse the wires
We are about the only people who saw this
///AMG EG leave the dumbass kid alone😂😂
😂
///AMG EG yea
If you can, try to figure out a way to boost reference the carburetor so it doesn't lean out. Adjusting the jetting probably won't do anything because the pressure that the "turbo" (quotes because this is a supercharger and doesn't have a turbine spun by the exhaust) is making is canceling out the pressure you have in the fuel causing it to go lean. Find out what pressure that supercharger is making, then add that number to your standard fuel pressure and you'll have a better chance. Also a good idea to get an oxygen sensor to keep your stoichiometry good. Don't let the haters get you down, keep on learning; even if you're learning from mistakes. :)
you need to pressurize the vent line of your carb bowl and fuel tank with a line off the turbo. or put the carb on the other side of your turbo.
that is not a turbo. it's a fan! your blowing air into your carburetor . this will lean off the fuel air mixture & you will lose power. your engine will also be running hotter. maybe do more research before you start your projects. you could save yourself a lot of time & trouble.
Ryan Kord I hope that you're joking.
Oh and it "You're", "don't, there is only one engine so you don't use they, you need a capital E and you need a period. You're the dumb fuck here!
Ryan Kord don't you know the difference between an engine running either rich or lean 🙄
Hny Bdgr yor gey! Howbowdat!
This is how research IS done! You build prototypes, gently test it...fail...repeat till you're not failing so much/as much!
Hey Dylon, I have a question about the stock motor for the X7 pocket bike. My question is, on the left side of the stock engine what goes in the space between the engine and the pull start.
The flywheel would be in there.
I have a fan that came out of a old big heater and it puts out a lot of air! (Way more than this thing, about half the speed of a leaf blower) For a go kart that has only two little holes that don't even face forward they way i'm driving? Being completely honest, Will this work?
new drinking game every time he says carburetor take a drink
+its_dat_squid new drinking game every time someone comments "this isn't a turbo" take a drink
Dylon Desbiens might get a little too drunk with that one
Jools Torrente Calo *drinks*
its_dat_squid You trying to kill folks with a drinking game?
its_dat_squid i actually did it lol
You need an EFI (electronic fuel injection) carb for the turbo to work.
What's the top speed on that with out any of the mods I had my 2 stroke 47cc doing 35 with just a squeeze bag. filled with 91% alcohol squeezing that at top speed it would almost double the original speed an blow a cool blue flame out the exhaust
How do you add air and not fuel but somehow get confused about running lean?
This guy is just tinkering around trying to learn and everyone on here is giving him shit. Maybe he dosent know everything ... yet but at least hes trying.
Well said.
The carburetor needs vacuum to run properly. You have to put your "turbine" between engine and carburetor. Besides, you must put bigger nozzle in the carb. to provide more fuel for the extra air that your "turbine" produces.
Have a nice day and Good luck !!! :D
But the turbine isn't sealed so it'll mess with the vacuum to the carb in that case
Kasics Chanel that's a super charger that works that way turbo blow right through the carburetor or the throttle body doesn't go in between the motor and the carb or in between the motor and the throttle body whatever you have that's a supercharger
@@johnwickens6480 Kasics had it right actually. It's called 'draw through' turbocharging. When you turbocharge a carbed engine, you mount it in draw through configuration. The videos configuration was 'blow through', and that's why his bike was bitching about it. Blow through works best on engines that use sensors to monitor air intake, like MAF, and compensate fuel based on that. With a carb, in draw through configuration, the increase in vacuum to the carb will handle everything for you. By mounting his turbo in blow through, the carb actually sees LESS vacuum when active and the engine starved for fuel. I ran draw through turbo engines throughout my 20's. Solid performers when dialed in.
This is the first video I clicked on of yours and you put your P.O up and you live right next to me!
This is awesome. You own, Dylon!
When reviewing an item you should at least make sure you are using it properly.
Although are correct in your finding that the turbo is junk, however even with a proper turbo, your setup won't work, it will fail on account of the way you set it up.
For your setup to work your fuel pressure from the tank to carb needs to be a few psi more than the turbo makes (or move the turbo to AFTER the carb).
If you want the turbo in it's current place, you need a pump and rising rate fuel pressure reg between the tank and carb and you need to equalize your carbs internal pressure in the fuel bowl using a pitot tube (google it), this will keep the pressure in the carbs fuel bowl and inlet the same, so the fuel can still use the venturi effect. Simple.....
The first youtuber that I've seen that lives in MN
If you use a blow thru set up like this, you need to drill and tap your fuel bowl for a barbed fitting. Then run a hose from your elbow, or tube right after the turbo to the barbed fitting on the carb. This pressurizes your fuel bowl when the turbo spools to compensate for the added boost.
How fast did you go on the nitrous runs?
Depending on how you have that plumbed,that carburetor bowl Vents to the atmosphere. You need to take the float bowl vent tube and plumb it to the pressure side of the turbo that way it is under the same pressure as the carburetor Venturi that way the air pressure inside the intake track doesn't try to push the fuel back out of the carburetor I bet you will work then
I wish I was as smart as you
Is this guy actually kidding? is this a joke channel? If not im ashamed hes from my state.
Is this next to the airlake airport off county road 70?
sure the fan is running in the right direction and not sucking instead of blowing ?
it's running lean because you are taking away the vacuum to draw in fuel..
yeah fuel air mixture. adding more air. and not enough fuel and heat
is the bike efi or carburetor?The turbo is just compressing more air into the chamber but it require also more fuel to gain the right ratio.remember to use low compress piston.
Is there any way to put the power of the electric turbo to run parallel with the RPM? it would make your experiment easy. Making the electric turbo active when the engine is on and making it passive when its running same as the rpm. Low rpm low air intake, high rpm high air intake plus with max output of the jettings. Try doing math of the max air output of the electric tubo to the engine equals the amount of the jettings or bigger carb to compensate the amout of air that the electric turbo gives to the engine.
Isn't that technically an electric centrifugal supercharger ?
Howie H yea
Yup
Its restricting air flow... needs to be spinning WAY WAY faster than the motor is capable of.
umm... if youy are going to run the turbo with a carb don't you have to rejet it for the amount of air you are forcing in?or am I just being dumb.
but how fast did you go with the NOS?
lmao he sounds like a fake @chris fix
Susan Cole Yooooo true
Sooooooooooooo truuee
You need a better jet cause with that "boost" its leaning out and stalling
Dick
cool! where did you buy the n2o kit???
How does a turbo torture an engine ? Does it overcharge it with air or something ?
do not use electric turbos , they only blow air instead of compressing air
awesome test ...
+skullcam Thanks skullcam I wanna get it working right so bad
Is that a racing cdi that you use? Does it have an rev limiter? Do have any idea where I can buy some cdi for pitbikes that has an rev limiter? Thanks!
Yup If you search Ebay 'Racing CDI' You'll see the one in the vid
What muffler do you have on that bike?
Next goal: I want to seize the fake turbo haters, buy a real turbo May be a (VZ21) and get it to add horsepower. not blow my engine*
Dylon Desbiens you just earned yourself a new subscriber! Awesome vid! Loved it!!
Dylon Desbiens it will do the same as the electric, your carbs aren't meant for forced induction. it would be cool to see this fuel injected.
thats had as shit to put a computer and everything
The engine is not the problem, the carb is.
I did do a turbo carb build on a Volvo B30 engine so i'm not saying it isn't possible, just that it isn't worth it from the rather small gains that your engine can take.
And yea, that fake turbo wont give you any extra power but whatever floats your boat.
Bryce Dale yeah, kind of pointless too, on such a small engine
fake turbo xD
What was your top speed with the nitrous?????
How high does the bike sit off the ground?
first
Congrats !!
YAY!
Well I subbed love the bike hope to see more of it
Shouldn't you have to add more fuel when the turbo is on?
Although I doubt the capability of an electric turbo like this I don’t see why the motor would act like these when engaging it. You didn’t have the polarity backwards did you and there for forcing the air the wrong way ?
Where did you get the turbo?
Were did u buy the turbo for a scooter?
"The engine does not like the turbo" ....had me laughing
I haven't seen the whole vid yet. but i saw one mistake the turbo is gernating a pressure. Right? That's why i want to ask you a couple things A.) have you calculated that the turbo is delivering enough air? B.) have you installed a bypass for the second stroke? and C.) why don't you seal that hose from the inside out?! the pressure of the turbo will press the glue into between the hose for the nos and the black hose to the carb.
Is the turbo actually working or is it just for looks?
where did you get the turbo?
Good job, keep learning and testing
Where did you buy your pocket bike from?
anyone got an idea of what type of pocket bike this is?
the fact that he was able to bog the engine down should show that it did change the pressure in the intake and that there is a tiny chance of improvement if we add some fuel when the blower powers on
Where did you find the turbo ? I really need to know !!
What pocket bike do you have?
how it gonna have any power increase when its not making boost
do you have the turbo back to front fighting against the air flow
+DAVID jAMES Blowing air into the carb
So what was the top speed with the NOS?
also it's not connected to the exhaust, it's why the bike tries to Stahl. the turbo does two things when installed properly. It increases the air entering the engine and at the same time encases the speed of exhaust pushed through the system
can u link where u get ur nos refills i can't find shit
If you say its already running lean, what do you think adding MORE air is going to do? But as someone already mentioned, you have the turbo on the wrong side of the carb,
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Like Chris Villarreal said you would need to move the carburetor for the turbo to work properly. As well as the Nitrous Oxide you would wand to have a larger main jet than normal so when you hit the high circuit you aren't just oxygenating the mixture. or if you want the carburetor to not have the fuel pushed away from the jets when you hit the "turbo" you need to add a port in the float bowl area above the fuel so it equalizes. That's how a Boost reference carburetor works. this setup could work if you have another carburetor you can still through so it's only for the Boosted setup. But you probably won't see much gain because I know those electric "turbos" don't have enough sealing potential around the compressor wheel to actually provide enough boost for the fan speed.
chris villarreal is correct about the turbo configuration.
Pontiac made a trans am that had a v8 turbo that was a turbo under the intake manifold.
Just mount the turbo to the motor intake and then mount the carb directly to the turbo.
Let us know when you get it working!!!!
What was the top speed with nitrous
Are you sure the turbo isn't spinning backwards?
Where can i find the turbo ?
what does that thing push 0.1 psi
I think when you were using the electric turbo it was actually slowing down the volume of air going in the engine. Making it run rich and wanting to stall out. Or since it's not a blow through carb it is just messing the vacuum up in the carb.
ya the bust is pushing the fuel back down the jets so it bogs down so if you gety a real turbo mount it fie=rst then the carb can be sucked into the turbo or put the carb in a sealed box and a fuel pump somthing like that
Where did you buy the nos
"The engine does not like the turbo" seems like a good explanation.
Love that exhaust man lol, I have one on my nitro canistor
electric turbo's do have some potential with small engines like this, did you verify that the engine is getting enough voltage to it's ignition system when you run the electric turbo? I'm just a lowly mechanic here but the timing of that makes me think you had both systems attached to the same battery and charging system and the voltage drop from the electric turbo was causing the ignition system to not get enough voltage and create a misfire...
Can we install this turbo on 350cc?
Doelctricturbos really work? Ifyou think they do why don’t they fitelectonestocars.
Check the spinning direction of the blades on the turbo. You might be slowing the air flow to your carb.
Are these litle nos bottles for real¿ Where do i can get it ?
To get some results out of the electric turbo , adjust your carb to run richer so your bike wont lean out