VR debunks Flat Earther argument?

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  • @DaveMcKeegan
    @DaveMcKeegan  Рік тому +23

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    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz Рік тому

      What, no specials or affiliate links for your VR headset?

    • @iBMcFly
      @iBMcFly Рік тому +1

      Of course, why not push a VPN like any true shill.

    • @Iserate
      @Iserate Рік тому

      @@iBMcFly jelly

    • @brownbrownie8745
      @brownbrownie8745 Рік тому +1

      Another video spewing garbage 😂. Flat Earth really gets under your skin I see!! Can’t wait for your next video 😂 Don’t worry I’ll subscribe, like, and turn on notifications because I appreciate your failed attempts to explain your globe model. I might even check out the VPN using your affiliate link to keep your money 💰 flowing to make these videos…. Nice use of the dog too 😂 You’re clever!! I can respect that! lol

    • @iBMcFly
      @iBMcFly Рік тому +1

      @@brownbrownie8745 ☺️

  • @contrarian8870
    @contrarian8870 Рік тому +319

    The train station illusion is a classic: you're on a train that starts moving smoothly. Behind the window is another train (you don't see the station, just the train). For several secs you simply can't tell who's moving. It only becomes clear when you see fixed objects or you feel your train shake/vibrate etc.

    • @ShMokou
      @ShMokou Рік тому +17

      And you realize that vibration actually caused by another train...

    • @maorgabai6139
      @maorgabai6139 Рік тому +29

      It happens to me in my car as another vehicle next to me is backing up and I feel like I'm driving forward and hitting the brakes, when in fact I'm not moving at all.

    • @redsite001
      @redsite001 Рік тому +24

      @@maorgabai6139 or when you’re not paying attention at a red light in traffic, and a semi truck starts moving and you think you’re rolling backwards so you jam on the brakes 😅

    • @Potkanka
      @Potkanka Рік тому +7

      I went to the comments to mention this. It's a bit jarring when I feel I'm moving only to then realize I'm not, it's the other train (or bus, car etc.)

    • @maorgabai6139
      @maorgabai6139 Рік тому +3

      @@redsite001 exactly 😄

  • @pencilpauli9442
    @pencilpauli9442 Рік тому +294

    Flat earther: Use your own senses to tell you what is real.
    Okay. I put a spoon in a glass of water and the water cuts the metal spoon.
    When I take the spoon out of the water, the air joins the metal pieces back together again.
    Conclusion: Water cuts metal. Air fixes metal. It's a kind of magic.

    • @TimPerfetto
      @TimPerfetto Рік тому +3

      Kerosene is redbull

    • @CyclesMcHurtz
      @CyclesMcHurtz Рік тому +8

      I'd like to see those folks who want to "trust their senses" to do the phantom hand experiments.

    • @Me_8136
      @Me_8136 Рік тому +1

      Mate the earth is flat(I’m joking)also can you explain in a video named “Sun spots on flat earth”

    • @pencilpauli9442
      @pencilpauli9442 Рік тому

      @@Me_8136
      Oh that is very easy.
      The sun needs fuel to make heat so it eats the moon, which is made of green cheese.
      The moon grows back every month using its cold light.
      A diet of nothing but green cheese gives the sun hives. That is how sun spots do be made.
      HTH

    • @vinnieg6161
      @vinnieg6161 Рік тому +6

      Anyone who knows anything about the brain would tell you your "own senses" are a very very bad way to reach any conclusions

  • @jimkoss3318
    @jimkoss3318 Рік тому +113

    Every sailor in the world has experienced this. Going from land to a rocking ship, you experience the rocking until after a few “weeks” you are accustomed. Then returning to land, you experience the land rocking. Until you get accustomed to it.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +13

      Hence why sea legs got translated to VR legs.

    • @davebritton7648
      @davebritton7648 Рік тому +12

      I've felt that for a short while stepping back onto land after just a night up on a ferry in a choppy sea.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +2

      Sea legs.. Or land legs if you're a Landy 😁.. Now VR legs ( Thankye lonetech )
      🌏☮️♾️

    • @托马斯-i4v
      @托马斯-i4v Рік тому +9

      Hence the song 'what shall we do with the drunken sailor' which originates from sailors getting back on land and meandering down the dock like a drunkard.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +1

      @@托马斯-i4v Haha.. Good call .. Put him in a long boat till his sober 😁
      edit -
      Or pull out the plug & wet him all over 😂.. 🌏☮️
      edit -
      Or put him in the scuppers with the hose-pipe on 'im 😂😂

  • @thearmouredpenguin7148
    @thearmouredpenguin7148 Рік тому +284

    Flerfs : "Trust your senses".
    Any Pilot : Whatever you do DON'T trust your senses.

    • @ToEuropa
      @ToEuropa Рік тому +99

      Flerfs: "Trust your senses"
      Non-flerfs: I can see ships disappear over the horizon, so the Earth is a sphere."
      Flerfs: "Don't trust your senses."

    • @johannweber5185
      @johannweber5185 Рік тому +14

      @@justinbennitt835 But the P1000 does not lift objects above the horizon either...

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +28

      Similarly, orienteers trust their compass, and divers tell up by bubbles. We humans lose track very easily.

    • @wiggles7976
      @wiggles7976 Рік тому +25

      @@ToEuropa What the flerfs really mean when they say "trust your senses" is "trust me when I say earth isn't a globe". To which I respond "where's your measurements of the curvature of the surface?"

    • @huey4203
      @huey4203 Рік тому +8

      Yea tell that to cave sivers once the water becomes murky last thing you want to do is trust the senses

  • @roccosound8825
    @roccosound8825 Рік тому +117

    I used to work at a meat works picking up meat cuts on a moving conveyor belt for 90 minutes straight. It demanded quite a high level of concentration as we had to get the correct cut of meat into the right box. When the belt came to a sudden stop at the end of the shift for a few seconds afterwards it appeared that the belt was now slowly moving in the opposite direction to what it had been moving in while we had been working. Quite amazing how our brains/eyes/balance all work together to perceive movement.

    • @Deinonuchus
      @Deinonuchus Рік тому +13

      I had the same experience working at a bottling plant. Made me dizzy as hell for the first week. And you can see it if you watch movie credits al the way through.

    • @fireweldxl
      @fireweldxl Рік тому +4

      @@Deinonuchus And you can especially see this kind of motion if you have ever played a Guitar Hero style game too.

    • @-ion
      @-ion Рік тому

      There's a particularly trippy version of this illusion, look up the most viewed video titled "Optical illusion - Hypnotic Spiral".

    • @renedekker9806
      @renedekker9806 Рік тому +4

      Same feeling when you have been on a (small) boat on the water for a while. After you step off the boat onto the jetty, you feel like the ground is still moving.

    • @treadingtheboards2875
      @treadingtheboards2875 Рік тому +3

      I have had the same experience on the treadmill at the gym after jogging for an hour or so. Very disorienting.

  • @truthsmiles
    @truthsmiles Рік тому +146

    A similar thing can happen to pilots… if you’re flying in clouds (no visibility) and perform a steady turn for more than about 20 seconds, your body will acclimatize to the new “normal” and when you roll out of the turn to go straight it will feel VERY strongly as if you’ve just started turning in the opposite direction.
    Half of becoming instrument rated is learning to completely disregard what your body is telling you and trust your instruments. Easier said than done :)

    • @gregedmand9939
      @gregedmand9939 Рік тому +27

      That's vital to point out to Flerfs. The human body is far from being a precission instrument. Many a fledgling pilot who's engulfed in cloud or at night, has gotten in extreme trouble by taking their eyes off the instruments. You can actually be in an inverted flat spin and "feel" that things are perfectly normal.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +1

      And when you have neither visibility nor instruments, you end up with crude guesses:
      ua-cam.com/video/RJAYZgOZS08/v-deo.html

    • @truthsmiles
      @truthsmiles Рік тому +2

      @@0LoneTech I can’t believe they removed the instruments. It’s basically been turned into a kiddie ride :(

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +3

      @@truthsmiles That is sad, certainly, but it can still teach lessons like how you can be turning quite fast and not know. I'd be tempted to fit in some new displays, though.

    • @keith6706
      @keith6706 Рік тому +7

      @@gregedmand9939 "Fledgling"? Many _experienced_ pilots have have flown their aircraft into the ground (or came very close to it but recovered in time) because they trusted what their body was telling them over what the instruments were screaming at them.

  • @naterpotater76
    @naterpotater76 Рік тому +387

    It may be pointless to try and reason with people who think water cant bend, but it is so enjoyable to watch. Please never stop.

    • @MagiRemmie
      @MagiRemmie Рік тому +1

      I never understood that argument. Freaking STEEL can bend. Why wouldn't water be able to bend? You know, liquid. That state of matter that CONFORMS to the shape it's contained in? Did Flat Earthers not take any form of basic science?

    • @sephidude123
      @sephidude123 Рік тому +5

      Ngl I misread this so hard.

    • @mooneyes2k478
      @mooneyes2k478 Рік тому +23

      Wouldn't the best way to fix that be to, well, bend water? Grab a dry comb, and a person(if you don't fit yourself) with long hair. Comb that hair for about 30 seconds or so. This will cause it to be charged with static electricity. Now, open your kitchen faucet to a smooth, not too forceful jet of water. Place the comb to the side of the jet and slowly move it closer. What do you know, the water jet bent.
      Flerfers have no understanding of what water is and what it does. At all.

    • @JohnVJay
      @JohnVJay Рік тому +1

      @@mooneyes2k478 I was going to say take a whiz off the edge of a roof, but your example is more family friendly.

    • @mooneyes2k478
      @mooneyes2k478 Рік тому

      @@JohnVJay But perhaps not as....evocative? :D

  • @jquest99
    @jquest99 Рік тому +19

    Flerfs have the funniest counterargumen for how you don't know how fast you are moving in an airplane.
    Their counterargument is... if you are outside of the airplane's cabin, you would feel the speed... because you know, the rushing air. 🤣🤣🤣
    They SO don't understand the point!

  • @awatt
    @awatt Рік тому +42

    As soon as I got off of the ground in a paraglider it was as if I was stationary and the world was moving slowly under me. Very strange sensation indeed.

    • @mackenlyparmelee5440
      @mackenlyparmelee5440 27 днів тому

      I get the same feeling whenever I go for a very long drive and get out.

  • @SWebster10
    @SWebster10 Рік тому +89

    The point of all this is that Dave gets to write off the cost of a Quest 2 as a business expense

    • @ScrappyTheKnell
      @ScrappyTheKnell Рік тому +12

      That just proves he's intelligent.

    • @nycbearff
      @nycbearff Рік тому +5

      And at the same time show the huge flaw in some flat earther logic. Good tradeoff.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 5 місяців тому

      *_GENIUS._* 🤭

  • @harfish
    @harfish Рік тому +38

    I've always found it interesting that motion sickness is an evolutionary adaptation. Basically, your eyes say you're moving, your middle ear says you're not, so the brain's conclusion is that you've eaten something toxic, and you commit to get rid of it

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +3

      @harfish And cos over evolutionary time our sight has become our primary sense, so our brains and body trust our eyes over our inner ear info.. Ergo sick/ confusion.. 🌏👁️‍🗨️♾️

    • @chlorineismyperfume
      @chlorineismyperfume Рік тому +1

      Ohhh it's the worst kind of nausea!

    • @bunnykiller
      @bunnykiller Рік тому +1

      fortunately I dont get sea sickness and when I worked off shore I saw quite a few who did get ill from the rough weather, it looks absolutely miserable...

  • @thorfinnmckenzie
    @thorfinnmckenzie Рік тому +27

    That feeling you talk about, I also have that sometimes when I am sitting in a train at a train station and the train next to me starts moving but it's like I am moving until I realize I'm not.

    • @bloozee
      @bloozee Рік тому +2

      Had that feeling on lsd when there was streaks of ice on the side screen of my stationary car. When I looked straight ahead I could feel the sudden deceleration!

    • @skateboardingjesus4006
      @skateboardingjesus4006 Рік тому +4

      Yeah, isn't it a peculiar sensation? Then the lack of the feeling of motion makes your rational side kick in.
      Brain say moving,
      body say nope.

    • @Katarn84
      @Katarn84 Рік тому

      @@skateboardingjesus4006 my stomach also says “food goes up, right?” for a split second every time…

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому

      @@Katarn84
      hehehe 🤣🤣 good one 😁
      🌏♾️♾️

  • @rob250185
    @rob250185 Рік тому +12

    Similar to when you are stopped in traffic, then the person next to you starts slowly moving forward and you panic because you think you're rolling backwards 😂

  • @andystokes8702
    @andystokes8702 Рік тому +36

    Back in the mid 70's there was a film released called White Rock, almost a documentary about the winter Olympics. One of the scenes was a camera strapped to a 4 man bob sleigh so as you watched it seemed like you were actually in the bobsleigh travelling down the course with all the twists and turns. This was all quite revolutionary for the time. You could not help but anticipate the next corner and start leaning into it as you approached even though you knew you were just sat on a chair in a movie theatre.

    • @mmattson8947
      @mmattson8947 Рік тому +6

      I was thinking of something similar in amusement parks, those large 180 degree screens (pre-IMAX) that took up your field of vision. (Look up Cineman 180, Omnivision, or similar products.) The films were from the perspective of roller-coaster riders or dune buggy drivers (or like andy said, a bobsled). If you were in the theater looking at the audience, you see the viewers leaning in unison (like what Dave was mentioning with the VR goggles) based on the motion they are seeing on the screen. If you stopped looking at the crowd and concentrated on the screen, you were soon joining their movements.
      (And after the movie is over, highly likely you felt queasy despite not actually moving from your spot in the viewing hall.)

    • @treadingtheboards2875
      @treadingtheboards2875 Рік тому +4

      I'm going to show my age, but in the 1960's when the film format Cinerama first came out, this was three camera's filming and three projectors showing the image side by side , the demo reel featured things like this, a bobsled run and other similar footage, the reaction of everyone was to hang on to their seats to stop falling over. I still remember it vividly.

    • @james13sylar
      @james13sylar Рік тому +2

      Doesn't this also happens when playing videogames? I remember doing it back in the 90s when I played super mario kart, and I have seen it referenced in shows and movies as well.

    • @Atlessa
      @Atlessa Рік тому +2

      @@james13sylar as a VR simpilot, I can absolutely confirm this happens. I have to wear a seat-belt while "flying" or I will fall out of my seat during intense maneuvers!

    • @msandersen
      @msandersen Рік тому +1

      didn't they used to use that footage and the one from the rollercoaster in iMax and large screens to give people the sensation of being on them? Very discombobulating.

  • @isaacbruner65
    @isaacbruner65 Рік тому +10

    Absolutely true, you can't feel that you're moving, only acceleration. That's why a racecar driver can accelerate to 200 mph and get thrown back in his seat, but if you're on an airplane, you can go a steady 600 mph and be able to get up and walk around. That's also part of why they want you to remain seated at takeoff and landing, because that's the only time you experience significant acceleration.

  • @Marcus_Caius
    @Marcus_Caius Рік тому +14

    The "Thanks Bob" will never get old 😂
    Dave, a question for you. I am mesmerised 😍 by your dog, how does he get on your lap like that?

    • @DaveMcKeegan
      @DaveMcKeegan  Рік тому +8

      He's usually gets on the chair the moment I start setting the lights up 😂

    • @c.augustin
      @c.augustin Рік тому +1

      @@DaveMcKeegan He's an attention seeker, isn't he? All dogs seem to be … 😁

  • @Yehan-xt7cw
    @Yehan-xt7cw Рік тому +24

    Flerfs should try to travel on a large cruise ship.
    On a calm sea, inside a windowsless cabin, it's nearly impossible to tell if the ship is moving.
    Even when standing on deck on the side of the ship, I never noticed a shallow turn untill I looked backwards and noticed the wake.

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 Рік тому +1

      Agreed I have said this to flurfs.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +4

      True as.. But.. They might know it on an 'intellectual' ( what? ) level, but they can't translate/ decode that information into what it looks like in real life.. Ergo their understanding 'issues' lol 😂
      Fluff that 😁.. 🌏☮️♾️

    • @dagurtheone3969
      @dagurtheone3969 Рік тому

      @@claudiaarjangi4914 I can tell you're a flat earther just by how much utter word salad that is.

    • @DeborahE7
      @DeborahE7 Рік тому

      I’m a “flerf” since 2015. The problem with your cruise ship example is that you’re in a closed system with walls and a ceiling. The heliocentric ball earth is said to have to absolutely no separation between our atmosphere and the vacuum of space yet it travels 66,000 mph chasing the sun, according to your model. A more accurate example would be to sit on the roof of the cruise ship, increase the mph by 66,000 mph, also rotate the ship around 1,000mph without stopping, then let me know how you enjoyed the cruise.

    • @dagurtheone3969
      @dagurtheone3969 Рік тому

      ​@@DeborahE7 so, if you'll actually read the comment, you'll find that there is something that you don't understand. I know, it's hard to believe that you don't understand everything there is to exist, but there's many, MANY things you have yet to even fathom upon, such as how not to be completely rebellious to the fact that you have less than 87 IQ and actually accept the fact that you are LITERALLY STUPID so that you can genuinely become smarter through some knowledgeable processes and be not nearly as stupid as you are now. But no, you have to be contumacious and pretentious about objective facts such as flerfs being absolutely nonsensical and literally brainwashed into thinking the earth is some sort of version of "flat" that varies with quite extravagant differences in each definiton. I wonder why that is.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX Рік тому +8

    I was having lunch at a restaurant years ago, and about every 10 minutes I'd get dizzy. I finally realized the window was right next to a bus stop, and every 10 minutes, a big bus was pulling away in my peripheral vision, which made me feel like I was falling backwards. 🤣

  • @GMSTRrules
    @GMSTRrules Рік тому +33

    At first I wondered what kind of argument could be debunked with virtual reality. Turns out it was a really stupid argument. Playing on the trampoline as a kid taught me not to trust what my body tells me. That feeling once you jump off and you still feel like you're bouncing for some time afterwards if funny, but also disorienting.

    • @Iluvantir
      @Iluvantir Рік тому +6

      Same situation to spinning around and around in a circle for a moment or so. You stop, and the world feels like it's spinning and you fall flat. Amused us as children, and amuses us still watching our kids do it. Hell, our dog does it. Our bodies and senses are so easily messed with and fooled.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +1

      You'd have to be hella arrogant to think "nuh uh , Im not like that.. I would know if I'm moving.. So ha, flat earth proof".. 😶.. 😁🌏☮️♾️

    • @globemason
      @globemason Рік тому

      True. What always fascinated me was how heavy I felt when I jumped off the ground immediately after getting off the trampoline. 😁

    • @ShizukuSeiji
      @ShizukuSeiji Рік тому

      @@claudiaarjangi4914 "You'd have to be hella arrogant to think "nuh uh , Im not like that"
      Its not arrogance, its ignorance.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +1

      @@globemason True.. Me too .. Feels like more than 1 G for a sec or 2 😁

  • @Gamrgeke
    @Gamrgeke Рік тому +23

    I have a VR set (basically a $400 paperweight now because Oculus wouldn't replace a cable) and I felt everything you talked about as you described the experiences.

    • @DrunkChimp
      @DrunkChimp Рік тому

      Can't you purchase a new cable?

    • @Gamrgeke
      @Gamrgeke Рік тому +3

      @@DrunkChimp they didn’t have just cables to replace. I would have had to buy a whole new headset.

  • @noneofyourbusiness7055
    @noneofyourbusiness7055 Рік тому +8

    It's amazing how many calculations, observations, concept, things, and whatever aspect of reality one examines can debunk the idea that Earth is flat all by themselves.
    ...that's why they all end up getting re/misdefined, denied, and/or lied about by cumulative flerfdom and its desperate confirmation bias.

  • @cuross01
    @cuross01 Рік тому +17

    Ah, but that's the flerf lie, isn't it? Every flerf will happily lie and tell you that they can feel the movement of an aircraft or train or car. They don't want reality. They want to be right haha

    • @MrVelociraptor75
      @MrVelociraptor75 Рік тому +6

      It's always extra funny to me, that in order for them to be "right", they have to be unequivocally wrong 🤣

    • @randomnpc445
      @randomnpc445 Рік тому +3

      They'll say they can feel that movement because they know before getting into the vehicle that it will be moving, so even if they don't feel anything, they think they should be and will respond accordingly. Almost like a placebo. Alternatively, they'd just remark that they felt the vehicle accelerating initially or something like that.
      The only way you could get them truly caught with no way out except a bold faced lie, would be if you had them asleep long enough to set them up in some sort of vehicle or object that was capable of moving at relatively high speeds, and make sure they don't wake up until it has already started moving. That would be the only real way to semi-simulate the effect of being on Earth, though it'd be pointless ultimately since it wouldn't affect their worldview in the slightest.

  • @spderweb
    @spderweb Рік тому +28

    That Space walk game, btw, is amazing. You get a strong feeling of agoraphobia when you first climb out of the ISS. It's wild.

    • @iceman90734
      @iceman90734 Рік тому +2

      Interkosmos does it VERY well too, especially when you're NOT near another large object you just see a little square on the HUD and you have the Earth on some side of your window, and then suddenly the object you are approaching gets very very big

    • @spderweb
      @spderweb Рік тому

      @@iceman90734 nice. added to my list.

    • @AbuMaia01
      @AbuMaia01 Рік тому +1

      I never made it that far, got motion sick just crawling through the corridors. :)

    • @spderweb
      @spderweb Рік тому

      @@AbuMaia01 which game? Home- A Spacewalk, which the youtube video shows off, has no corridors. Instead, you immediately go out on the space walk.

    • @AbuMaia01
      @AbuMaia01 Рік тому

      @@spderweb I was referring to the free Quest ISS experience, where you can explore inside the ISS, and even practice moving the CANADARM to grab a capsule.

  • @keithbroughton4476
    @keithbroughton4476 Рік тому +10

    The "thanks Bob" comment , that seems to be migrating to various channels, never ceases to amuse me!

  • @clivedavis6859
    @clivedavis6859 Рік тому +11

    I once rode on a fairground ghost train. The tracks entered a rotating cylindrical tunnel with a checkered pattern on it. The sensation was that the train was tipping over in the opposite direction to the rotation and everyone began to lean over to counter it. When I realized what was happening, I suddenly sat upright and almost pushed the person next to me off the car.

    • @davebritton7648
      @davebritton7648 Рік тому +2

      Are you sure it was the cylindrical tunnel moving, or was the checkered pattern projected onto the inside of it?

    • @clivedavis6859
      @clivedavis6859 Рік тому +5

      @@davebritton7648 It was the cylindrical tunnel moving. It was on rollers with a driving ring around it. I was curious and as it was the last item on the ghost train, I walked back and looked inside when the doors opened when the next train exited.

    • @davebritton7648
      @davebritton7648 Рік тому +1

      @@clivedavis6859
      Ok. Had to ask.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +1

      @@davebritton7648 Back in the day, projections ( or believable ones) weren't a thing.. 👾 It's only in the last generation that this stuff has happened ( again, good enough to fool, anyway 😁) Before that, Everything.. All rides etc were mechanical & physical..
      Maybe that's why I sorta ( 🤨 sorta !) can see how young flerfs are not getting that modern CGI etc & tech have only 'just' happened.. Does Not explain the old ones though.. ( Maybe they've forgotten, cos of old age ? ) 🤷‍♀️😁
      🌏☮️♾️

  • @kevinmould6979
    @kevinmould6979 Рік тому +7

    As a flight simulator technician, it's really amusing when someone new to simulators believes that the motion system is engaged and operating when in fact it's just that they can see the image moving through the window. If there is someone standing and looking through the windows you can see them swaying to counter the movement their eyes are perceiving.

  • @doomspud6302
    @doomspud6302 Рік тому +9

    If you've ever been to a fun house with one of those spinning tunnels, you know this feeling too. Even though the suspended walkway you're on isn't moving at all, simply seeing the walls spinning all around you makes you feel like your rotating in the opposite direction. So, your brain automatically tries to correct for it, and you tip over.
    Or, even simpler: If you've ever seen an optical illusion where the image is static, but it looks like its wiggling or spinning.
    Its actually incredibly easy to fool our senses, because our brain runs on instinct. And our instincts were not programed to cope with modern technology. Its hard to get million year old firmware to be compatible with the newest hardware.

    • @Foebane72
      @Foebane72 Рік тому

      I was in one of those, it was at the Ripley's Believe It Or Not! In Niagara Falls in 2012.

  • @gordonbrooks13
    @gordonbrooks13 Рік тому +11

    I think it's important to emphasize to flat-Earthers, though, that it's not just our perception that prevents us from feeling the Earth move; it's physics. While we don't feel movement on an airplane in smooth flight at cruising speed, the inanimate objects on the plane with us don't respond to it either, else the drinks on the tray table would be flying to the back of the plane and we'd be unable to walk back from the rear lavatory. They can try to say that this is only about our senses, but the behavior of senseless matter in various frames of reference proves them wrong.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis Рік тому +1

      Like the video that includes someone pouring out a drink while travelling at 1,300 mph on Concorde

    • @sineout9294
      @sineout9294 Рік тому +1

      Yes. And if you look at it from the pov of conservation of energy, the fluid of the inner ear, once agitated, must lose energy to its surroundings and come to a stop as surely as a kicked soccer ball does. Feeling steady motion is as impossible as a perpetual motion machine and for much the same reasons.

  • @Foebane72
    @Foebane72 Рік тому +3

    I was once in an amusement park where there was a dark corridor with a walkway with a huge fast-spinning cylinder of lights all around me, and the sensation and perception of rotational movement was so strong that I couldn't help leaning into the direction of rotation, it was quite a surreal experience.

  • @danielcepero3790
    @danielcepero3790 Рік тому +14

    With all of the reasoning and explaining that doggo has sat through, it must be smarter than any flat earther out there by now

    • @vinnieg6161
      @vinnieg6161 Рік тому +2

      The chair he's sitting in is smarter than flat earthers

  • @alexisfox2511
    @alexisfox2511 Рік тому +6

    There are 'rides' where you're pretty much sitting in a special theater watching a movie that looks like a camera flying around and the theater is set up on machinery that tilts it around in different directions. The effect is that you feel motion even though you aren't moving because the tilt makes your body feel the acceleration of gravity from an angle that matches what your eyes see. The only reason this works is because the only motion we can feel is changes in acceleration and constant motion has no feeling regardless of speed.
    The effect of feeling changes in acceleration while using VR on a stable couch is likely due to a similar effect but the tilt is probably caused by you subconsciously leaning forward, backward, or to the side based on your brain expecting to feel acceleration in a given direction so it makes you lean in order to feel what it expects to feel.

    • @claudiaarjangi4914
      @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +2

      @AlexisFox true.. I think it's cos over evolutionary time, our sight has become our primary sense , so our brains & body have learnt to trust our eye input over our inner ear balance info.. Till we feel sick/ unbalanced.. But by then our brains have chosen an input to run with, so , sick/ confused..
      This happens daily in 'real' diagnosed Vertigo sufferers.. Their brain is trusting their faulty inner ear input, so their seeing the ground looking like it's moving up & down, side to side, constantly.. Ergo, fear of stairs & cliffs etc 😬 Fluff that .. 😁 .. 🌏☮️♾️

  • @OldManTenno
    @OldManTenno Рік тому +6

    I'm thinking of making scale models of globe and FE in Unreal Engine, then demonstrate what the observations are in both. What do you guys think?

    • @JoeDaddyNV
      @JoeDaddyNV Рік тому +1

      That's what I thought this video was going to be about. Yeah definitely do that. Would be very interesting to see.

  • @D0S81
    @D0S81 Рік тому +3

    i love the whole ''well we cant feel the earth moving'' thing, and its like ''do you not know what relativity is?''
    the earth is going really fast, but so are we, so it feels like we arent moving. you can experience this yourself. go on the smoothest mag lev bullet train in the world and shut all the blinds to the windows and even though its going hundreds of miles an hour, so are you, so it feels like you arent moving. because you have no reference of speed, you would only be able to tell your moving when it sped up or slowed down suddenly. earth has a speed reference just like looking out your window on a plane or train, and they are called stars. which fly past at thousands of miles an hour, but are so far away it looks like they are barely moving. i mean planes go hundreds of miles an hour, but when you see them high in the sky, they dont zip past real fast because of how far away they are. unfortunately i still think even this simple provable explanation is too much for flat earthers.

  • @beez1598
    @beez1598 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for making these, I do enjoy seeing them pop up on my feed!

  • @james13sylar
    @james13sylar Рік тому +4

    Another thing that could be done with VR, which I thought was what the video was going to be about initially, would be to create a model of the flat earth, with adjustable parameters to show the different (and contradictory) versions of it. Maybe a "switch to globe" button as well to change it to an accurate version of earth, so that one can compare how it would look like in a flat earth vs in the globe earth, and then compare it to reality.

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz Рік тому +2

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @c.augustin
      @c.augustin Рік тому

      Who would create something like that? It is only a rather small group of people who actually looks at flerfs and the nonsense they're spouting, and flerfs themselves would never change their minds even if they would experience it, as it would be "all fake and NASA funded to deceive people in believing to live on a globe" for them. Looking at (not staring into ;-)) the Sun and it's path in the sky over the day is enough to *know* that it indeed goes below the horizon (and comes back on the other side at morning) - they don't do this either and can't explain it properly, so it would be moot to create such an application. On the other hand - Walter Bislin created his calculator to show the differences, so maybe somebody might indeed come up with such an app.

  • @thunderspark1536
    @thunderspark1536 Рік тому +35

    In fact, we've done experiments to see if we are in a simulation. By doing two separate experiments on a very small scale, they were testing how deep the simulation would have to be and how much computing power would be needed.
    What they found was that the amount of computing power to have both these experiments work as we expect them to would be beyond the energy of the entire universe. Facinating stuff!

    • @attilatormasi1733
      @attilatormasi1733 Рік тому +4

      But if our universe is simulated then all the power in it is literally the simulation

    • @rohdri
      @rohdri Рік тому +3

      @@attilatormasi1733 That, and showing the results would be way easier than actually having the experiment properly simulated.

    • @freshrockpapa-e7799
      @freshrockpapa-e7799 Рік тому +5

      Yeah that's complete nonsense, who is "we"?

    • @ihcterra4625
      @ihcterra4625 Рік тому +3

      @@freshrockpapa-e7799 Humanity.

    • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
      @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI Рік тому

      Ok thats just FE lavels of bunk... Always look for a source when reading an article. Its not a failsafe for disinformation but it'll go a long way

  • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
    @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI Рік тому +5

    Dude Ive got a force feedback steering wheel/pedals connected to my PC for racing sims in VR & it took hundreds of hours to stop flinching when I'd yeet a Ferrari into a wall at a simulated 280kms.... But by far the one that still gets me is reverse 3-point-Turns.

  • @Deinonuchus
    @Deinonuchus Рік тому +6

    Not to mention that feeling the earth rotate has no survival advantage.

    • @imfrommanndame
      @imfrommanndame Рік тому +3

      I doubt flat earthers give much credence to evolution by natural selection.

  • @alistairgrey5089
    @alistairgrey5089 Рік тому +5

    Acceleration is the key here. We don't feel movement, we feel acceleration, and FLERFers don't seem to get that, among many other things.

    • @mikep9604
      @mikep9604 Рік тому +4

      Basically, they don't understand even the most basic physics and geometry.

    • @alistairgrey5089
      @alistairgrey5089 Рік тому +2

      @@mikep9604 oh I know. Gravity is the bane of all FLERFers.

  • @Thorrnn
    @Thorrnn Рік тому +2

    You can experience this sensation after using a treadmill at the gym. When I step off and just stand there it feels like the ground is moving under me

  • @danielmarkiewicz8489
    @danielmarkiewicz8489 Рік тому +3

    when you sit in stationary train waiting for it to go, and on the track next to you there is another train standing there is a weird sensation when the other train starts to move. your body will think you are starting to move even if you dont.

  • @milesupshur9614
    @milesupshur9614 Рік тому +5

    Honestly, that view with the Earth moving below the stars looks way cooler than seeing the stars moving over Earth.

  • @Top-Code
    @Top-Code Рік тому +11

    Acronyms? That might be too hard for any flerf to understand.

    • @clivedavis6859
      @clivedavis6859 Рік тому +3

      Indeed. They think NASA is a word and not an acronym.

    • @VitalVampyr
      @VitalVampyr Рік тому

      VR isn't an acronym, it's an initialism. Acronyms have a pronunciation different to just listing it's constituent letters.

    • @simond.455
      @simond.455 Рік тому

      @@VitalVampyr ORLY?
      *SCNR

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens Рік тому +2

    In our zoo we have a small suspension bridge on ropes, and walking on it you really feel the whole moving under you.
    What fascinated me that for MINUTES after these 30 seconds, it felt as if the earth is moving under me.
    There is the story that the same happens to sailors coming from their ship, giving them a rather weird walk.
    But it can just as well be that when you are for months on a ship that is twisting and rolling under you, you develop a habit to have a "wider" stand to stand more stable - especially when you can't swim, what was usual in the sailing ship era.
    For a reason - ships like Cutty Sark from 1869 had over 20 sails and a crew of 23 men, when someone falls overboard, the ship would have to heave to, strike all sails to stop, and only them cold start to lower a boat and row back to the place where the man fell overboard. That can take hours.

    • @GamingInfested
      @GamingInfested Рік тому

      thats you actually feeling earths rotation. If you can jump on another planet in instance you would feel difference

  • @thephantomeagle2
    @thephantomeagle2 Рік тому +3

    Lots of things get old, sometimes quickly. That 15 degrees will always always be hilarious

    • @biggusdoggus
      @biggusdoggus Рік тому +1

      Interesting...

    • @thephantomeagle2
      @thephantomeagle2 Рік тому

      @@biggusdoggus Ever since he's had to bend over backwards to try and explain how he was so bleeping wrong and how he proved the Globe. He went to prove the FE, and failed so badly it's obvious.

    • @biggusdoggus
      @biggusdoggus Рік тому

      @@thephantomeagle2 at least he helped other flerfs, by making it clear that actually measuring something is not going to help them.

  • @woofernando7076
    @woofernando7076 Рік тому +2

    That "Thanks Bob" towards the end had me chuckling out loud and is 4am here. Haha. Brilliant

  • @JoeDaddyNV
    @JoeDaddyNV Рік тому +4

    I thought you were going to show a VR world on a topographical flat map and a world on a globe map and see which one looks like what we observe. Someone should do that and see what looks the most realistic. Doubt it will ever happen though.

  • @KinKnives
    @KinKnives Рік тому +2

    We evolved on a rotating orbiting plant, of course we don't feel it. Life would be horrible if our bodies could detect our motion through space

  • @redstonewarrior0152
    @redstonewarrior0152 Рік тому +4

    I love how everyone keeps on dunking on bob for proving that the earth rotates at a rate of 15 degrees per hour.

  • @imdfox1774
    @imdfox1774 Рік тому +5

    The sensations of VR, yes!! Those are really weird, DiRT racing game and Gran Turismo Sport on the PS4. Using the PSVR and a racing wheel, i can only describe as it messed with “my inner gyroscope”. My body reacted by bracing for bumps or crashes that didn’t come. I couldn’t do anymore than a single rally stage because I felt sick from the (lack of) motion sickness.

    • @imdfox1774
      @imdfox1774 Рік тому +1

      I still recommend the experience. I also recommend the games “Shuttle Commander: Hubble Space Telescope Missions” and “ADR1FT”. Shuttle Commander because, well, shuttle and Adr1ft for being such a beautiful, atmospheric (or lack thereof, being set in space and all) game.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Рік тому +1

      I once played a game demo that let me jump really high. Landing was horrific because I kept bracing for a hit to my legs that never came.

  • @allsar1
    @allsar1 Рік тому +1

    Ever been to a rotating restaurant. It reminds me of that. The whole portion of the building is turning yet somehow your able to eat a meal without the negative effects. It moves so slowly that it doesn't command your attention or mess with your peripheral vision. Maybe it's not the same but how is it not.

  • @chassetterfield9559
    @chassetterfield9559 Рік тому +10

    Your VR experiences are very similar to sea sickness, that point where you inner ear tells you that you are moving around, but your eyes tell you otherwise.
    I did night school courses to learn nautical navigation. I can sit 'down below' on a boat at sea, even when on quite 'lumpy' seas, quite happily for hours, poring over charts & tables of figures. But, I have also been sailing with people who can wake up in a bunk, and feel seasick within seconds, unless they can get on deck immediately ( sitting on deck, viewing the horizon is a standard remedy for seasickness, because the 'conflict' between eye & inner ear no longer exists ).
    I've never tried the VR experience, it could be quite interesting.

    • @chassetterfield9559
      @chassetterfield9559 Рік тому +4

      Refer also to those 'simulators' you increasingly see at fairs etc, where you sit strapped into a 'box', while viewing a wide angle screen, listening to a soundtrack, but the 'box' is simultaneously being thrown around on hydraulic rams, up, down , sideways, nose up or down. You can be absolutely convinced that you are accelerating, or braking, or cornering, whilst still being in the exact same place.
      It's that old thing about the 'inertial frame of reference'.
      ps. If gravity doesn't exist, why does the box pointing towards the sky, or standing on its nose make you, inside the box, think that you are accelerating, or braking ?

    • @freshrockpapa-e7799
      @freshrockpapa-e7799 Рік тому

      @@chassetterfield9559 what does that have to do with inertial frames of reference?

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +2

      Yes, VR sickness and motion sickness are essentially the same thing; your brain alarmed that it gets conflicting sensory input. It does serve to highlight how crude our senses are. Redirected walking is one interesting application. We also struggle with interpreting unfamiliar scenes; once I was orienteering on a mountain top, and got confused looking in a direction my map was showing another mountain, but I could only see water. I was looking too far; the next mountain was below the local topology, i.e. the slope was too gentle to see a close, low mountain. I had to descend lower to see close enough.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Рік тому +1

      @@freshrockpapa-e7799
      If you have no way to see what the result of the world is doing movement wise, you can't tell how you're moving at all. All you can feel is a force vector moving around, not whether its gravity alone or gravity plus another force.

    • @freshrockpapa-e7799
      @freshrockpapa-e7799 Рік тому

      @@Appletank8 I guess you mean "what the rest of the world [...]" ?
      Even without a reference frame you can know your acceleration by measuring the force you're experiencing, that's just the second law of Newton. It doesn't matter if that force comes from gravity alone, gravity plus some other force, or the sum of many forces. Your acceleration will be the sum of all forces divided by your mass.
      You're correct in saying that you're unable to know your position and velocity, although you'll be able to know what your total change of velocity over a period will be, and if you knew your starting velocity you'd be able to know your displacement.

  • @phillipbireta9308
    @phillipbireta9308 3 місяці тому

    Another example I’ve encountered; have you ever pulled into a parking space, come to a stop and put the car in park, then the car next you you starts backing up causing you to reactively hit the brake thinking you’re moving forward again.

  • @ziggythedrummer
    @ziggythedrummer Рік тому +2

    I've not used a VR headset but I've had similar experiences in arcade-based simulators and panoramic POV cinemas, like Cinema 180 at Thorpe Park in the 80s :)

  • @ziploc2000
    @ziploc2000 Рік тому +8

    The failure to understand that we can feel acceleration but not velocity is another example of how flat earthers didn't pay attention in school.

    • @freshrockpapa-e7799
      @freshrockpapa-e7799 Рік тому

      We don't feel acceleration, we feel forces

    • @dorkangel1076
      @dorkangel1076 Рік тому +4

      @@freshrockpapa-e7799We feel the change in forces.

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 Рік тому +1

      @@freshrockpapa-e7799 We feel touch.

    • @MeerkatADV
      @MeerkatADV Рік тому

      @@freshrockpapa-e7799 acceleration is force. Acceleration = Change in Velocity over Time.

    • @freshrockpapa-e7799
      @freshrockpapa-e7799 Рік тому

      @@MeerkatADV Acceleration and force are completely different concepts man, you should know this

  • @heinekenskywalker8115
    @heinekenskywalker8115 Рік тому +1

    You've gotta try "space explorers" it's several epic parts all filmed on the iss, really long, uncut videos of the astronauts performing several experiments, including preparing for a space walk, it's 360° and literally like being there, totally jaw dropping, completely destroys "iss is fake" bullsh*t. You absolutely must see it, incredible.

  • @rogertulk8607
    @rogertulk8607 Рік тому +4

    Dave your point is well taken, but it seems to me that most of the flerfs are questioning why we don't have thousand miles per hour winds at the equator or 700 miles per hour winds at my latitudes. They don't want to accept the proposition that the friction of the atmosphere against the turning Earth has caused the air to rotate with the earth for the past four and a half billion years. I enjoyed this episode. Keep them coming!

    • @Isolder74
      @Isolder74 Рік тому +2

      Well they love to say that as soon as you leave the surface the ground should go rocketing away from you because the flawed concept that a reference frame is a location and nothing more. Yes they seriously think that a flying drone would not see the stars moving at night is the globe was ‘real’ the way they think it works.
      The can’t grasp the concept of conservation of momentum, period. Either they don’t get it or they don’t want to get it.

    • @OrbitalCookie
      @OrbitalCookie Рік тому +3

      @@Isolder74 They don't care to grasp anything. The Earth is flat because the shoes are made for a flat ground.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Рік тому +1

      Maybe they should hold a cup of water inside a car and wonder why it isn't shooting backwards at 60 mph.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis Рік тому +1

      @@Appletank8.
      Flerfs cannot relate their everyday experiences with anything outside those experiences. They will claim if the Earth is rotating, jumping into the air would mean you landed in a different spot, but know exactly what would happen if they stepped off a 100 mph train.

    • @c.augustin
      @c.augustin Рік тому +1

      @@grahvis If you jump high enough fast enough (say, 1000 miles up in 1 second ;-)), stay their with the sideways momentum you've got on the surface, than come down after an hour or so, you would indeed land at a different spot, because your angular speed would've been smaller. Doesn't work with a few meters up/down for a few seconds, as the difference would be too small to measure.

  • @TheMrMe1
    @TheMrMe1 5 місяців тому

    Some people have never been carsick and it shows.
    As a child, I used to read in the backseat of the car. At some point, I stopped noticing that we were moving. This then became a problem when the car slowed down/sped up or did tight turns; suddenly my inner ear noticed a change but my eyes were telling my brain that no, we are stationary. Cue the nausea.
    ...I don't read in cars anymore

  • @FritzSchober
    @FritzSchober Рік тому +2

    Dog: "Debunk time = nap time"

  • @dancinswords
    @dancinswords Рік тому +1

    The argument "if we don't feel motion, then we're not moving" does not entail "if we _do_ feel motion, then we _are_ moving". It's an "if then" statement, not an "if and only if" one. It leaves whether or not we're moving ambiguous in the case of perceived motion

  • @averyhaferman3474
    @averyhaferman3474 Рік тому +4

    Watch the hour hand of a clock. Not really moving right? It's spinning double the rpm of the earth

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut Рік тому

      To mention, or not to mention that there's no battery in the clock, because the ticking of the clock is infuriatingly annoying.

    • @jjevans1693
      @jjevans1693 Рік тому

      1038mph is 1038mph. The earth is little bigger than a clock.

    • @averyhaferman3474
      @averyhaferman3474 Рік тому

      @@jjevans1693 rpm

    • @jjevans1693
      @jjevans1693 Рік тому

      @@averyhaferman3474 I get it . Anything that only spins around once per day is slow lol. For most things maybe. For something as big as the earth it's 1038mph that it has to spin to cover that distance in 24 hours. Is an hour hand spinning at 1038mph? If it did would it spin more than once per day? Yeah, more like thousands of times per day. Does a hour hand have to travel the same distance as the earth to make one ( or two rotations ) per day? You can't compare to the earth to an hour hand except for rotational rate. The speeds and distances are astronomically different. 1038mph is and always will be considered very fast.

  • @eproulx
    @eproulx Рік тому

    I once flew from Ottawa to Helsinki via Frankfurt. On the way there I took some sleeping pills because it was a night flight and I couldn't fall asleep. When I woke up people started to stand up and grab their luggage. But I thought we were still in the air. I thought "what are these people doing??"
    And then it dawned on me that we had landed already.
    There is no difference between standing still and going at a constant speed.

  • @andrewchapman4267
    @andrewchapman4267 Рік тому +3

    There used to be a bit in the Haunted House at Alton Towers (I've no idea if it's still there) where you walked through a tunnel which had rotating brickwork projected onto it. It made me feel sick just walking down the tunnel, despite the fact I knew nothing was actually moving.

    • @DrunkChimp
      @DrunkChimp Рік тому

      You didn't walk through the tunnel - the car took you through the tunnel and stopped for a few seconds inside. It was a very good effect. That section was still there a couple of years ago, but the ride has been revamped recently, so it may be gone now.

    • @andrewchapman4267
      @andrewchapman4267 Рік тому +1

      @@DrunkChimp ah ok, yes now you've said it I do remember that. Must've been 20 years ago so my memory was a bit hazy!

  • @iceman90734
    @iceman90734 Рік тому +2

    I have SOLID VR legs, but the extremely UN-detailed world of the demo Spider-Man game on Oculus...the first time I jumped off the building (probably about 45seconds into the demo) I about threw up because my stomach literally jumped. The Climb 1 and 2 also do this same sensation, I usually have to play it while sitting because if I look down (or fall while looking down) the same feeling takes me. I'm actually afraid that if I fall while playing The Climb 2 while standing up, I may well actually fall on my floor, even though that game requires (demands in fact) zero leg movement. Great video as per usual, flat earthers suck at reality, even virtually.

  • @LiveInOC
    @LiveInOC Рік тому +5

    So if the earth isn’t moving on flat earth, that means the sun and moon are moving. So flat earthers, how fast is the sun and moon moving through the sky? What causes them to move? Why don’t they fall, what’s keeping them in the sky? What keeps the moons dust/soil from falling off if the side we see is upside down? These are just basic questions for you flat earthers

  • @brianvillage5
    @brianvillage5 Рік тому

    At a red light I’ve had cars next to me start rolling forward and it makes me feel like I’m going backwards, it trips me out everytime it happens.

    • @critthought2866
      @critthought2866 Рік тому

      Fairly common experience while sitting on a train and the one next to it moves.

  • @garcat
    @garcat Рік тому +3

    hey im a new sub

  • @mauricioliscano847
    @mauricioliscano847 Рік тому

    a common and similar non VR experience is driving up to a stoplight next to a large truck. If the truck moves forward a bit you feel like your car is rolling backwards.

  • @pencup21
    @pencup21 Рік тому

    The VR roller coaster simulator gave me motion sickness. It doesn’t even go very fast! I was sat on the floor the whole time with my hands flat on the ground and I could literally feel my body fighting not to topple over at the turns.

  • @darrenberkey7017
    @darrenberkey7017 Рік тому +1

    Wow, my mind is numb.... this is honestly the first time I've heard the flat earth argument that Earth can't be a spinning globe because we can't feel it spinning. What?!?! THAT is their evidence? How do they come up with that?? That sounds like the thinking of a child.

    • @SubterrelProspector
      @SubterrelProspector Рік тому

      They're seriously that stupid. They bring it up all the time like it's a "gotcha" moment. They don't understand conservation of momentum OR relative speed.

  • @clientofficial
    @clientofficial Рік тому +1

    I can already tell that you're going to be a large UA-camr. Awesome content by the way!

  • @trevorharrison3314
    @trevorharrison3314 Рік тому +1

    If we all lived on an undefined Flat planet, it would be obvious!
    There would be thousands of observations that would prove a flat earth and be impossible on a globe. So where are they?

    • @simond.455
      @simond.455 Рік тому +2

      The first one will be presented any day now..... Just a little longer... Ehm... Waaaait for it...
      Nope. Nothing.

  • @DekritGampamole
    @DekritGampamole Рік тому +1

    One experiment that can be easily replicated by the flat earthers is time lapse video of the night sky. If the camera is pointed the north the stars will rotate anticlockwise, but if the camera points toward the south, the stars will rotate clockwise. It is impossible to explain this fact with flat earth model.

  • @bigJovialJon
    @bigJovialJon Рік тому +1

    Also if you drop the goggles, they will accelerate downward at 9.8 m/s^2, which proves that gravity is a force.

  • @YilmazDurmaz
    @YilmazDurmaz Рік тому

    "we don't feel it moving, so earth is not rotating" is exactly same as "we don't feel the plane/train/bus moving, so we do not travel an inch" despite apparent motion.

  • @Trevor_Austin
    @Trevor_Austin Рік тому

    There have been countless smoking holes in the ground over the years arising from pilots being disorientated. The moment we or the environment around us moves in a non-standard or unexpected fashion (eg. snow blowing across a road) or you take away or block our vision we start to become confused as to which way is up. Stick us in the air and the “fun” really starts. In cloud in when it is smooth you can easily start a gentle turn, so gentle you don’t even feel it. Within a very short period of time you can find yourself hopelessly out of control. We are not built to detect g below a certain threshold. Worse, we have no inherent way of determining which way is up. Not even birds have this ability. Enter the gyroscope.

  • @michaelmccarthy2104
    @michaelmccarthy2104 Рік тому

    I love that clip at the end where the camera is tracking the night sky and therefore the Earth in the foreground is seen to rotate!

  • @Scrapla1
    @Scrapla1 Рік тому +1

    Why don't FLERFs study our vestibular system?

  • @Sir_Zoro
    @Sir_Zoro Рік тому +2

    I love the fact that the name 'Dave'is becoming a Fatearther nightmare.

  • @vamp4997
    @vamp4997 Рік тому

    I was down hill skiing sitting down and was making a sharp turn and almost lost my balance. Playing Resident Evil standing gave a little motion sickness. :)

  • @claudiaarjangi4914
    @claudiaarjangi4914 Рік тому +1

    This what happens in people with 'proper' vertigo.. Their balance is thrown out , making them really scared of stairs , cliffs etc.. Cos they can't trust their bodies directional/ motion balance, so they see a moving ground in front of them.. Like your corkscrew path.. That's why they are scared of edges & heights..
    It must be fluffy ducked ☺️.. 🌏☮️♾️

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 Рік тому

    According to there argument, elevators only move for a few seconds and then teleport to floor your are going and just take a long time to open the doors. Since you can't fell the elevator going up all the time while you are going up, it actually means it is not moving.

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 Рік тому +1

    WWI Fighters huh? I'm assuming that is a Street Fighter clone where you can use Keiser Wilhelm to launch a Hadooken at Woodrow Wilson then tap in Franz Ferdinand to curb stomp a young Winston Churchill. Am I close?

  • @TheFlyBullet
    @TheFlyBullet Рік тому +1

    Again... I love this dog 😂 he starts talking, dog falls asleep... 😄

  • @bunnykiller
    @bunnykiller Рік тому

    an example I like to use is the river/pond method... you are sitting/laying on a floatie thing in ther water (pond) and the water is still, not moving. As one would expect you would say you arent moving since the water around you isnt moving and the view around you is also still and not moving. But put that same floatie thing in a calm slow moving river and the sensation is that you are not moving because the water around you is still compared to you. But if you look off into the distance you will see the bank of the river changing its position, therefore you are moving but not sensing the motion. There was a video made by Del in which he dropped a box with a bottle of fluid in it, as the box fell the bottle and fluid showed no movement even tho it was falling from a decent height... so basically if you showed someone that video of the box falling and asked then to determine if it was or was not moving, everyone would be most likely to say it wasnt moving since nothing in the box showed movement...

  • @ikarma123
    @ikarma123 Рік тому

    I swear I have “felt” the earth rotating by lying on my back looking at the stars. I just stared at the stars in a semi meditative state until I could see the stars moving. Then it felt like the earth is rotating.

  • @quercuas
    @quercuas Рік тому

    VR is weird like that. I was playing a game that took you into an elevator that went down.
    And you get that weightless feeling you get when you're in a long elevator going down. Yet my brain knew I was standing on a solid floor.
    Very weird.

  • @andiyonotandang656
    @andiyonotandang656 Рік тому +1

    I do believe the earth is round, no doubt, but I keep myself updated with these flat earth things, they often come up with a really great punchline.

  • @whnvr
    @whnvr Рік тому +1

    6:49 oh the floor is FLAT is it? FLAT? checkmate mr. 'globeman'.
    jk absolutely love your videos keep it up! i actually believe if you keep tackling this in such a formulaic and systematic way you might genuinely give ideas like these little room to hide. not actually saying this is definitively possible, due to moving goalposts, but maybe there is a chance?
    and if not, you're still enormously entertaining, funny, and good-natured, and the videos are still mechanically fascinating for those of us weirdos that subscribe to reality.

  • @IanHsieh
    @IanHsieh Рік тому +2

    I'm expecting a flerther to make a video titled "VR proves the flat Earth"

  • @ion_X
    @ion_X Рік тому +1

    it is interesting that you bring different perspectives of methods to demonstrate why, that the Earth can only be a sphere the way it actually is, compared with many other science channels

  • @Kualinar
    @Kualinar Рік тому

    We feel the change in velocity, but, there is a minimum rate of change that is required. BUT. After some time, we no longer feel a small but constant acceleration.
    Yes, that «15° per hour, Thank, Bob» will never get old.

  • @coryv5679
    @coryv5679 Рік тому +2

    What debunks the Flat Earth is the fact that the Earth is round...

  • @brunomocellin
    @brunomocellin 9 місяців тому +1

    "I can't see the Earth's curvature or it's rotation. I don't Believe."
    "I think the Earth's Flat and don't believe it's rotation. I Believe."
    ALSO
    "I can't see God and feel him but i do believe him. Weird isn't?"

  • @kevinashley478
    @kevinashley478 6 місяців тому

    Have you ever jumped/fallen from a large height in VR and gotten that "falling stomach"?? Ugh, happens to me everytime. And i am 99% of the time sitting in a chair. I worked out how to play the games while sitting by adjusting my height setting, due to my disability. It is amazing how your brain can affect your body.

  • @clebsgaming92
    @clebsgaming92 Рік тому

    So when you're at the highway traveling in a constant 60 mph speed and you don't feel the car moving... That means it's stationary! Right????? Amazing argument!!!

  • @Atlas6355_
    @Atlas6355_ Рік тому

    Flerfs believe we should be grabbing to trees to preventing us from flying off the earth! 😩🤦‍♂️ MUPPETS!

  • @cyruslupercal9493
    @cyruslupercal9493 Рік тому

    You feel nauseous in VR because you see movement but your inner ear can't detect any acceleration.
    It's reverse in a vehicle. I get nauseous after a while if I want to read and focus on the page before me as the vehicle (de)accelerates and turns in the trafic. My inner ear detects acceleration, but my eyes say I'm stationary. I need to look out of the vehicle to feel better.

  • @mschedler4984
    @mschedler4984 Рік тому +1

    Virtual reality to VPN... nice segue. Great Video too. Thanks!