THE SECRET TO KEEP A VW RUST FREE (Cleaning the Fender Liners on a MK7 Golf)
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2022
- There are a few common spots where debris will collect on VWs. Over the years they have improved their designs so it is less of an issue, however, it still is an important part of maintenance. Cleaning your fender liners and adding some undercoating to common rust through areas will help your vehicle last longer without rusting through, and it only takes about half an hour of effort every few tire changes.
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Thanks for the detailed video, my 2014 Jetta TSI has rust in all the forementioned areas.
top vid....i did similar on my mk4.....have a mk7 now and just saw your video...ill do it on my next week off...im in the uk and ive found acf50 to be fab on bare metal and rusted metal to stop any more...really does work
Interesting suggestion, I've never heard of acf50. My mk4 too had the same issue. It's definitely way less of a problem on the mk7, but definitely does not hurt to be proactive.
Very good video! Thumbs up×
I just install better mud flaps and coated the liners with Rhino bed liner. The manufactures put foam and felt liners for sound dampening but ill rather have a clean car and rust free that will last than a rust bucket that is very quiet. If road sound is important just add sound foam in the doors and interior of the car youll get a RR Ghost quiet ride.
Just done the same on the rear of my mk7 (also had a mk4 before, which didn't have rear arch linings). Quite a bit of mud was trapped behind the lining but only minimal rust, though this would only get worse. Treated while doing a rear brake job but I bagged the disks etc to keep wax of where I didn't want it. Threated the subframe, cill covers and into the frame and also impregnated the arch linings so I hope they don't soak up moisture as before. Will see.
Modern wax products are very good but I think VW's paints less so, especially on subframes. I think their sealants and paint on the body are very good so it's the edges only or where maisture is trapped that continue to be the problem. I use a cheap underbody sprayer when there's salt on the roads.
Will investigate the front wheels next...
Yayyyy can't wait to see how rusted my 14 year old 2010 jetta have rusted when I take off the panels =/
Thanks for the video, nice to see exactly what behind all those fender liners. I ended up here looking to see more info about the mud flaps, and I've noticed you described them as being not great, to say the least. Why is that, are they not doing what they are supposed to do? I got the front ones only, in hopes to prevent scratches from rocks thrown by my own front tires. Would you say that is not the solution? I wanted to PPF the doors, but the prices directed me towards mud flaps instead.
I think mud flaps are fine but the oem ones make contact with paint so sand gets trapped in between and it ends out exposing bare metal. I like simpler flaps that don’t touch any metal like rokblokz
Take some kind of hard foam and make the same detail size and shape of that spundge thing and place it. Then spray some kind of a spray coat for protection and that's it.
Nice vid! So that sponge inside the wheel liner/front fender is the culprit of the rust problem in my Up!. This spring I noticed some bubbling on the front part of the rocker. I pressure washed my car and the paint just peeled off uncovering a horrible mess of brown and black rust. Other thing I noticed was, that the paint was extremely thin and had only the surface paint over the zinc. Never buying a Volkswagen again.
It’s unfortunate for sure. I’ve had good luck with my cars up in canada but unfortunately have to be proactive with these newer models. Unfortunately I beleive that it’s not necessarily an issue with the make, but rather the cost cutting all manufacturers do these days. At least here we get the 12 year corrosion warranty. I’d love to have a little up lol. They’re sweet cars.
Well don't buy Japanse or French cars either then because those are 10x worse with rust!
I use ACF 50 on everything, anything that'll potentially rust...
When you mentioned undercoat at 19:00 in the video; What does that mean? Sorry I am a newbie;
Does that mean you use some sort of Krown/ Oil based rust proofing product and spray it?
Also interested in when you undercoated the screws to prevent from stripping;
Yeah I used an undercoating oil in a spray can. My rec would be fluid film or the new blaster surface shield.
What wheels are those on your GTI? Looking real boss!
Thank you. They are titan 7 T-s7s. 19x8.5
Not trying to be critical, because I found your video very informative. I just have to ask, how many people are going to take their tires off and remove their fender liners EVERY YEAR? After watching your video I did my 2015 Golf MK7. It took a lot of work and time. . Most of the screws were so rusted that they were extremely difficult to get out without stripping the heads.. I ordered new screws and clips. Unfortunately, my Golf MK7 has a lot of rust, especially just ahead of the rear tires in the rocker panels. The car is only 8 years old and I had a 6 1/2 x 3/4" strip that was completely rotted out. Since I have no welder, and can't afford to take the car to a body shop, I had to resort to the spray foam trick so many people advocate on youtube. But it's just cosmetic, and my car will probably be un-serviceable in a couple years..
Very few do. It's a common issue on more cars than VWs and i do find on the MK7/8 it is way less an issue than it was on my MK4. You can probably get away just taking out the 2 screws. The vehicles do have a 12 year perforation warranty until 2018 when it was shorteded to something like 7 years.
It's unfortunate and frustrating though to hear about your situation.. I now religiously undercoat cavities.
do you think if i have small amounts of surface rust on spots around that thin mettle fender i can sand it off and repaint and what not with a paint touch up kit?!
I don’t see why not you can also use a rust converter to seal it after you remove the rust.
Do you think it’s bad to apply self adhesive butyl rubber (aka dynamat, etc) inside the wheel wells on sheet metal to help lessen road noise drone? Now I am scared of rust, haha.
Personally, I wouldn’t do it anywhere outside of the cabin for that reason. There’s always the chance salt and water and other crap will get between the rubber mat and the metal. Especially in the rear wheel wells where the fender liner is permeable.
Thanks for your video - I am trying to trace water ingress into the driver footwell in my Mk7 and after checking all the usual culprits I am now convinced the foam insert is to blame. I suspect there is a water route to the interior, possibly along one of the welds. Looks like my weekend will entail stripping out the liners and sealing every visible weld. I sent a camera down the wiper channel and there was a mini mountain of dirt and leaves trapped in the cavity causing the foam to become totally sodden. No matter how much water I extract using towels pressed into the small hole in the carpet below the driver seat (UK right-hand drive) the underfelt remains wet - as if there is a sump of water gathered somewhere. Its not from the aircon pipe and it hasn't rained much at all. But the water is there every day. Frustrating!
speaker seals in the door
Clogged sunroof drains
Got the same problem did this sort your issue UK car too!
@@NeedFourWheels it’s the sunroof drains
@@AndreasRP. What if I don’t have a sunroof
Was horrified just now to find several inches of mud and wet leaves behind my front wheels. Is there an aftermarket mud flap or something I can add to prevent this from happening again?
It’s an mkV rabbit
@@aleckkrob1784 Personally on my car I am using rokblokz. I previously used rallyarmor, they don’t touch as much or any of the fender paint. However, the mud flaps are not what cause the dirt to build up. The stock ones hold dirt against the paint which will grind against it which isn’t good, but they don’t cause the buildup. I had the same issue on my mk4 with no mudflaps. It seems they improved it a lot on the mk7 but there is still some buildup. The solution really is to clear out your windshield cowl when you notice leaves etc., but also to check behind the fender liners at some interval (I.e. every 6 months, year, or two). Just cleaning it out and spot undercoating the problem areas is the best way to prevent damage.
I noticed when you removed the passenger side rear fender liner, there is a long clear tube just dangling there. Same on my car. Did you ever figure out how to route it? There doesn't appear to be any cable clips. to hold it.
I just put the fender liner in and it basically fell into place
@@VWTalk Thank you. Odd that VW, which normally has everything "buttoned down" securely, chose to just let this dangle.
Hi, i drive golf 7 from 2012/12 in Germany ( Hamburg ) and no Rust with 140.000+ Kilometers. i dont know why, but maybe u have to Clean ur Car a little bit more. For Rust u need " Owatrol Oil ", its one of the best Stuff against Rust. When the Owatroloil is dry, overcoat it with Paint and then some good Wax.
My complete Car is untercoatet with Wax from Dinitrol ( 4942 Metallic ) and 3642 for the holes.
This isn’t my car but i agree. Should be cleaned more. I will say that it is not a direct comparison though. In Canada, the salt used and winters are very different. Your vehicle also would not be a Mexican built Volkswagen. Owatrol oil looks very cool though. This I will be looking into for my mk8.
What is model of machine are you using for washing ?
Karcher K1700 with a MTM Kobrajet hose and Mosmatic gun
I have a mk7 golf with rust issue in the lower front fender. What do you think of getting rid of that foam in the fender?
Or cut 1 inch or two at the bottom
I think it’s not a bad idea, I compared it to my 2018 GTI. The mk7.5 actually replaced a lot of foam with hard non pourous plastic. The remaining foam is for sound isolation on the highway. You could probably even buy the revised part numbers. Your mk7 should have a 12 year rust warranty as well. Vw will replace your stuff for free, and you can replace the foam with the plastic parts to prevent it from happening again.
Thanks alot for all these infos. For sure i will go see the dealership for the revise part.
I got rid of mine.@@juliennormandeau1061
Is it worth cutting a couple of inches off the bottom of the foam to allow the water to drain out and run free?
Honestly I'm not sure. There are a lot of ways to tackle this, but my main point with this video is that you want to prevent wet sponges from sitting against metal.
I removed mine.
After this video next morning I did all the same - thanks
Glad to hear. Best thing is prevention.
Dirt and dust doesn't hurt anything. Salt and moisture causes rust. Why do they put that foam piece there? Is it designed to destroy the car?
It is an acoustic insulator
@@hrnple Figured that. Also damps any vibration.
Dirt and dust helps to hold the salt and moisture against a surface. It’s definitely for acoustics. The golf 7 was one of the quietest cars vw made in a while
6:50 uuhh.
VW GOLF MK7...Aluminium......I drive a 2013 MK7, has almost 74000 km on it, and.....zero rust....just zero....nothing....I drive it around in the Netherlands, always parked outside, near Rotterdam, im starting to believe the car in the video has some major issues or whatever. But a regular vw Golf in Europe should not have rust anywhere, despite of the weather. That is how good they are build.
This is a Mexican made golf with far more km, and it is driven in Canada. Two different worlds and cars.
Still the same place 😢… mk4 and 6 have the problem
Yep, it’s crazy. But build up is definitely way reduced compared to my old mk4.
Nothing to do with VW …every car ,modern or not will greatly benefit from that secret…Works on all of my cars since so many years!
Tweakin
All day steve
@@VWTalk LOL!
Poor design I've removed my foam and used some wax oil instead.
My MK7 has rust in places you'd never believe, along with multiple spots of water ingress to the interior. VW to me is such a dogshit car make compared to what they used to be. The low IQ engineering choices made in recent years, including their absolutely mind boggling decision to release the Golf 8 with their god awful software issues, I don't get it. I halfway want to just sell it but I have no idea what to buy instead.
Yeah usually my VWs have done well enough with the salty roads, at least compared to other cars. My girlfriend's Subaru had rust at the edges of panels under 1 year old and they'd do nothing. Not to say my local dealer hasn't shafted me on my 1 warranty claim- my horn and a speaker. Never had something like that go out on a car. The MK8 though is just such a departure to me. The material choices (like fake carbon on the R), no hood strut, shitty software, etc- I really see the cheapening. The radio I used in the mk8 was near unusable. I want to upgrade but hope they walk some shit back. But, what else is there that is better for the money that isn't used? THat's the real issue. I think VW is trying to push their higher end customers to audi and/or electric. I've had this hypothesis for a while that brands are going to make their gassers worse just to push us to the electrics.
@@VWTalk honestly wouldn't be surprised if that was their goal. Politics are driving people to hate ice cars anyway and at least here in Germany you are being treated worse by some authorities and citizens for driving a sportscar than for murder. I don't get where humanity's going towards.
My GTI is a fun car but it definitely is not gonna last forever. It's now almost 10 years old and it has some mad problems. The only solution would have been to give the brand new car a good treatment with wax and sealants to prevent rust for as long as possible.
Perhaps I should sell it while I can with minor problems (after fixing the very apparent bad ones).
Maybe a Volvo would be the smart buy.
The design on cars from this brand, is a total disaster. They should have done something with it long time ago, but they just continue with all the flaws. I have a mk4, but i was lucky and got a really nice one. So the rust issues had not began yet. As long as you are aware of it, and prevent it with cleaning out and fluid film its ok. I also flush out the sills from both ends, because they get filled with sand, mud, salt etc. and of course fluid film after it dried up in there. And not to talk about all the problems with water leaks in and get under the carpet. When the car is parked with rear end higher than the rest, rainwater follows the rubber seals from top and under the door bottom, and inside to the floor both sides in front. It also leaks in where the pollen filter is, at the bottom of the case the filter is mounted in. I just removed it, and got rid of the gasket. Used some body sealant as a gasket instead. Now its dry. Im lucky i have no sun roof, because that is also a big issue. I almost forgot...also seal the opposite side of the pollen filter. Water can go inside some relays under it.