KEMPER STAGE & KEMPER KONE 1x12 CAB
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Trying out the powered Kemper Kone 1x12 Cabinet with the Kemper Stage.
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Ola: A 1x12 is not for playing live
Petrucci: Challenge accepted
It's a good solution for small venue monitoring. I play pubs and clubs and use the powered Kabinet to hear myself, while sending the Kemper main outs to the PA. I use V30 imprints because they are the speakers the profiles I use were created with, and it most closely matches the sound to the PA. I used to use a 2x12 with my powered Kemper and though it sounded great, it sounded... different, of course.
One thing you have to do to get a decent volume however is to boost the output signal in the Kemper's Output menu, and run the Kabinet flat out, controlling the volume using the master volume on the Kemper only.
I like that Ola really has a solid taste for heavy gain tones. Most reviews don't really spend a lot of time exploring the subtle differences in heavy metal gain tones and most of these profiles all sound good but they do sound different
i'm still in love with my kemper. such great studio tool!
I remember fondly your Kemper Review from back then! Still have mine, rock solid!
Love Kemper. I opted for the rack unit with remote pedalboard. I do not miss lugging my tube stack amp to shows!
After almost 10 years I still love my Kemper! Own also a QC, but the Kemper has something special on it! Really cool to see that you do a video about it!
you like your kemper tones more than qc?
@@ariraphiel39 The Kemper has something "special".
@@ariraphiel39yes :3
Great Video OLa! Thanks for this
Physics plays the biggest role in amp in the room tone , I’d like to hear a demo of a 412 oversized Mesa cab loaded with kemper kones vs the actual vintage 30 loaded cab and head .
Love my Kemper, this is making me want to get the cab now
The problem I have with that stuff is I just fiddle the knobs the whole time instead of playing guitar. Just give me one good sound and I'll just use that lol. There's just too many options
Not disagreeing with you just sharing my experience with the Kemper ;
Got it (used great price), overwhelmed at first for a few days, and even though I was happy with it I was still missing something…
…then I randomly found a killer profile that was exactly what I wanted. It made me laugh because it was better than I expected. Since finding that profile, I learned a bit more and programmed a few things the way I want, but now for the most part… I just play. It’s that good for me. I change sounds sometimes but generally I just fire it up and jam away.
I was worried it would be just something to constantly fiddle with but after setting it up with a couple good sounds, I am happy with it as is and can just play. I set some fantastic bass guitar tones on it too.
Love this thing.
@@PartyChicken407 100% agree. Exactly the same experience for me,
@@sb6232 - a big bonus for me too was the fact they added the double tracker and it’s actually well designed. My real guitar rig is a stereo setup that I use a TC Mimiq on sometimes for that wide amazing recorded album sound, and when the Kemper added it it was a huge bonus for me. Now I take profiles I love, and even though they are good as is, I add the double tracker into an FX slot and it completely changes the tone (usually in a good way to my ears).
An example would be : jamming on a classic fender deluxe profile sounds great… but having that subtle double tracking so it sounds like a record is next level to my ears.
I honestly have a lot of thanks for Kemper - it is a blessing for guitarists and bassists.
@@PartyChicken407 Can you send me your settings for the doubler? I tried it, and it was a bit weird (..super high gain..), but I'm sure it's my lack of know whaat to adjust..
I spent the first year exploring every nook and cranny. Downloaded thousands of rigs, spent a couple hundred bucks over that year too. As much as it pains me to admit it, but most of the ones you pay for are levels above all the free shit (although there's some bitchin free profiles for free) I have 9 different guitars. I made a performance for each guitar and every genre that I'd ever want to play with that guitar. I utilize all 5 channels and morphs on each performance, I have every pedal in the exact place that sounds best with each guitar, and BOOM! I get the hankering to play some funk on my strat, open the performace. If I wanna play some blues/rock on my tele, metal on my les paul, jazz on my 335, etc...I have performances that take 5 seconds to find and load up. I haven't fiddled with it in the past year because I've mastered the fucking thing :)
Trying out The Kemper Stage & Kone! BEANS!
Howdy Brother!! Loving the vids...still blasting these videos in cancer treatment...your gaining more fans... They asked me the other day if they can find CDs...I gave em all the info I knew of your work...
Never tried home recording...what would you recommend as a budget set up to record guitar and vocals...with a PC laptop..I'm a newbie to the world of home recording...so bare with me..just looking to get better and help keep my mind off of the negativity and dark rabbit holes one can go down fighting this big C Monster...
No beans for me! Thanks! 🤣🤘
@@Big_Uncle_Randy I wish I was into recording at home. At would've helped tremendously the other day when I swapped out the output jack for a Pure Tone jack and I swear my guitar sounded different afterwards.
It wasn't as mid-heavy for some reason. Had more highs, it seemed like. I wasn't expecting anything like that. I was just trying to swap out jacks. So I figured the only option at this point was to put the old jack back in and see if it went back to sounding like it did prior to the swap. It did.
Had I been one that records at home, all I would've had to do was pull up an old file and compare it to a new recording and see if they were different. B/c it's quite possible that nothing at all changed and it was all in my head.
Pretty cool stuff! 🤘🏽
I've used the rack-version since 2015 and I love it! :)
Metal and Coffee in the morning to start my day .😀🤘
Nice seeing you review a Kemper, been a happy user for almost two years. Don't forget folks, a Kemper is only as good as the profiles you use. It takes time to find a great profile, and even more to fine tune it to your likings. Def worth it. For high gain, the Tue Madsen profiles are insane.
Agreed 100%. My quest for the perfect high gain tone ended when I got Tue Madsen's profile pack.
sounds killer! im kind of surprised the unit doesn't have a xlr. This video kind of made me want a Kemper and the cab. it's so cool.
It has XLR for output only. But it doesn't have input XLR to profiling, so you have to use other device to convert from XLR mic to kemper for profiling purpose
@@kariskgtr yeah, sorry, I meant “I’m surprised it doesn’t have xlr in”.
I swear companies don't put xlr ins on devices to not "scare" people away.
I don’t have the Kone, but I got the Stage recently and absolutely love it.
I finally got a Kemper and I’m so happy how much updating has been done to it. I got it because I was happy with the overall concept and sound of it, but the fact they added a well designed Double Tracker, as well as tons of other awesome FX like good wah’s, makes it even better than I had hoped.
Not the easiest to program, not perfect, but man is this thing amazing. Feels great too which is the surprising part.
I have a powered rack and it's damn near perfect with a real cab. I still really like it with my EV monitors plus get stereo fx that way.
@@PackinForSuperbowlI've got the powered head and it's absolutely fantastic. Sounds amazing through my 2x12 cab. I'll never buy another amp again.
I am really interested in seeing you demo celestion's copperback in 1,2,&4x12 setups. I have one in a 112 and don't understand how they aren't more popular.
Ola always find something to chug!!
More Kemper stuff! Also what are the ABSOLUTE BEST high gain profiles?
love my stage. love it!!
That feel when waiting patiently for the JC Prophecy and GC1.6 VINTER reviews
I have a stage, but not a powered cab. What I am curious about is, as I have never actually profiled an amp, since you are profiling the head with the speaker cab using a mic wouldn't the speaker imprints be "Celestial 30" + "Mesa oversized cab and ENGL savage?" or is there a way to profile only the head? Sorry if this was answered and I missed it in the video.
I love how surprised he was to find one of his own profiles in there 😂
nowadays there is no ideal digital modeller. Still real amp rules but Ola thanks for your presentation...this is quite interesting
I wonder what a carbon fiber, or Kevlar or Injection molded poly propylene speaker would sound like since those are mainly used for audio. I had an old crate practice amp C.R.A.T.E. (Can't Really Afford The Equipment) and unplugged the speaker and hooked it up to a 3 way home speaker with a 10" woofer. It made the amp sound actually good. It Chugged!
Hi Ola! Would you still recommend a Kemper for studio and live use? I pretty much need built in fx so I dont need to haul other pedals with me than the Kemper Pedalboard.
Recently I've been looking at used Kemper Powerrack and pedalboard which can be had around 1200€.
Fiinally, finally...finally! 👍
I use 2 Misson Gemini Stereo FRFR cabs, You can master slave them to create a 4X12. Or I guess you can build these to a 4X12 and a stereo set up, If you are getting a digital set up, ALWAYS use a STEREO FRFR, All the sounds will come to life, even at bedroom volume.
7:34 An Ola profile without that signature 2000-2500Hz grind? Blasphemy! :P
I agree on the boxiness... even for a 1x12 cab, it lacks in the low end.
Eh, I wouldn't care if the power amp was tube or solid state. But I'd definitely use a proper guitar cab over this.
I have the rack & the stage, I never thought I would but I sold all my tube amps except one, and don't regret it at all........
Been trying out Kemper alongside Axe FX & Quad Cortex, to find out which suits me best. Honestly, I can't decide. Thankfully, these video give me someone else pov. Thinking that cab could help things here, at home, with whichever I end up using.
that's amazing for the kemper considering axe I , II , XL ,III has passed . even the new Quad cortex. this thing have 10 years of live and counting
I have been Fractal since the Ultra. I went Ultra (several years) - Axe 2 (several years) - Kemper (1 year) - FM3 (18 months) - and back to Kemper this past week. I find with the right profiles I tweak less, play more, and it just sounds a bit more amp like to me. I fancy getting a power Kab next.
It’s about how it feels when you play , imho they all sound the same , but Kemper’s feel most amp like , nothing close to a triamp mkiii or vh4 or jcm800 in feel
I’ve been the same. Tried qc fm9 and kemper stage. Spent a lot of money but I had it up front and the plan was to only keep one so I’d sell the others and get most of money back. I’ve been leaning towards the kemper stage. I like the size and foot switch numbers. It’s not perfect. It has a horrible ui and clunky editor. But I’m leaning that way still. How about you?
Hey Ola, so this speaker is basically an alternative to F12-X200. Have you ever considered making a custom 4x12 cabinet made of F12-X200s and try running bunch of plugins through it and compare the results?
There’s a demo of a guy that installed the f12-x200,s in a 412 on UA-cam .
Does the TLM mic on the cab are even captured or recorded? Coz the sound of your guitar is like ambiance only 🤷🏻♂️ like its only captured by your podcast mic
Can we connect directly connect to the main mixer during the gig....pls suggest. ..
I'm just getting into all this modern home recording technology. Amp sims and impulse responses etc, the options are endless, so much to learn it's crazy. I spent over a decade rehearsing and gigging with a Marshall JMD1. Digital pre amp with 100 watt el34 output tubes. The louder you played it the better it sounded. Love that amp. It's old technology now though.
I did the opposite, I realized how much money I spend on VST3 and audio interface with studio headphones and then got myself a 100w halfstack with pedalboard and I am happy (all used and old, but real. But yeah, I have the space for that stuff so)
Play the kemper thru a tube powerstage!!!
I have been trying to figure out what i could use with my computer and audio interface that would allow my amp plugins to have more volume/tone/bass/air. Playing thru studio monitors sounds good but i want something larger, So that it feels a bit bigger like a real amp.
You should get a small power amp and a 2x12. That's getting the vibe of a real 4x12 but half the size. Going from 1x12 to 2x12 is a great upgrade.
All those amps and cabs you own and you're playing through PC?!?! Lol. Try 8-inch monitors combined with a sub-woofer maybe? Or even a large, powered FR speaker? I use little 5'' monitors for my PC, and understand the craving for more bass.
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Do I need a 4x12 or are there speakers with enough wattage to safely handle the 600w from the Kemper’s built-in power amp in a 2x12?
Always curious how these sound. I’d like to try the Friedman ASM-12 with my FM9.
Question: Do you have to disable IR's or cab sims when using this? When you use the Friedman ASM's, you leave on the cab sims, just like plugging into the PA.
It's a full range (or "hifi") speaker so an IR is needed for it to sound like a proper rig.
@@reallyeffingcooltechnodude
Reason I'm wondering is you'd have cab sim on top of cab sim when you change how the speaker responds, unless I'm misunderstanding how this cab works.
I use the asm12 with my kemper stage, you do need an ir for it sound good because technically the asm isn’t a cab, it’s just a speaker
When using the Kemper Kab it turns off the IR and uses its own imprints, which I guess are like IRs less the Mic. It's meant to sound like you are playing through an amp in the room, rather than a Mic'd cab through a PA like a typical FRFR setup.
Hi there, sorry for the newb question. Do you need to crank up the Kemper cab to make it sound good, like you would with a Marshall, or does volume make no difference with a Kemper and kab? Thanks
Sounds good at any volume. No need to crank it.
This is an excellent device to use when you want to go play I'm using minimal equipment for your show
I'm running a 2x12 of kones in a real guitar cab powered by a fryette powerstation. The tube poweramp is where its at.
What IRs did you use for testing? What IRs do you have loaded into Kemper's memory?
Ola happy bridthay
Would have liked to hear this thing using a good DI profile.
One thing I don't understand: You made a profile of an Engl head AND oversized cab. So how do you change the speaker after that? Basicly if you change from full range (the captured oversized cab) to anything else, you put an IR over a captured speaker.
you got this perfectly right ;-) and that's why these kinds of "tests" don't make a lot of sense. It all comes back to a basic misunderstanding of what profiling systems do (avoiding calling them "amps" on purpose). They don't mimic amps but the whole signal chain, including the speaker and the mic (and its position) and the console or interface the mic is plugged into. To keep the speaker out of the equation you'd have to capture a so called direct profile, which grabs the signal from a load box directly after the amp
You can turn off the base one as well as switch it, it's not set to just that sound from the speaker as it counts them as separate things on the profile. Will it be a 1:1, usually no, but there are many variables to this. People forget there's also DI profiles of just Heads, same as profiles of plug-ins, it's simple if you have a Kemper on hand.
I used the Ola sim for SWOLA#86.
Just a note here.. you should not be micing the kemper kab. I got my powered one about a week ago and so far i like it. needs a bit more speaker break in but all good. im bypassing the cab on monitor out. the V30 sounds good. i like greenback, creamback and nickleback.
Hey Ola, can you do a kemper review of wes hauch's kemper pack? It's super bad ass, he sells it on his web site....
can you use a kemper profiler powerhead with marshall 4x12 cab on 16 oms ?
I don’t see why you can’t and also
Now that the foot pedal version is out you can put it on a chain with distortion going first
7:20 Keith Merrow's riff - what song is it from?
I think i've heard it on some pickup reviews as a demo riff, but if it's from a song, i would very much like to know.
Pillars of creation
Frfr mode sounds best for my taste
Kemper rocks
Love my Kemper, but I'm not really liking that cabinet sound. Good demo though. Love the phone feature.
It's already profiling a mic'd rig, you're not supposed to re-mic it. Miking the cone is not the way to get a usable sound.
@@mattgoodwin953 Truth.
Screw the Kemper...tell me about that GUITAR! I must possess it.
Oh, you can mike up this speaker for live situations despite already loaded with an IR? Cool
We need a Satan Pack from OLA !!!!
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Owning a kemper for recording mainly. Live Im a bass player, because of I just use my sansamp or such thing. We are playing bigger festivals aswell, and never had any problems that way but The kemper is still to big to carry around. The Kemper Cab/cone is for Home usage just to hear you self better. or maybe a small vanue gig when you have a shitty PA and no inEar monotring.
Trying to firgure out the difference between a great emulator and a real amp now days is a real waste of time. The tech is there now. Of course you can sit for hours and find the difference, but can an audience hear it? Is it so important you have the exact feel of the 75 pound rig? Could you tell the difference if you didn’t know there was a comparison being made?
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Love axefx2
sounds to me that it is a good idea to check it again in 10 years
I think it's a better idea to use an $1800 dollar piece of equipment more than once a decade. That's literally paying $2 dollars a day to let it sit in your closet.
I don't really get what the difference is between Kemper's "speaker imprint" and regular IR's. Is there really a difference? I could imagine that the Imprints are not actual recordings of speakers/cabinets, but instead emulations that are created by their capturing AI software. Not sure though.
yea I don't get it as well
An IR has the sound of the mic baked in. If kemper did this speaker imprint technology right it shouldn't have any mic imprint on it.
If it were only a regular IR through a cab, micing it again would make no sense, you would be micing an already miced signal.
@@martinmorales3195 but Ola said he made the profile based on a sm57...
I'm lost here
celestion did the imprints as well as Jensen. it is the same as an IR. kemper don't run IRs in a traditional way.having that said you can convert your IRs through the Kemper Cab maker app then load them onto the kemper unit. The whole imprint thing is to give the Kemper user that amp in the room sound and feel, that's why they made it. problem is they should have done at least a 2X12 cab for that imo, with the option to go to a 4X12 Cab. They may in the future, who knows? Personally I run my Kemper into Mesa Dual Rectifier roadster. KEMPER Monitor Out---->Effects Return on the Mesa Dual Rectifier---->(and turn off the cab block on the Kemper) Then into your 4X12 or 2X12 cab of choice, in my case my Mesa 4X12 loaded with V30s. Just like ola mentioned at the end how he runs his axefx etc....
@@robjoyner1167 he did, but then with the Kemper you can 'turn off' the speaker. It uses their algorithm to remove it from the profile
I hope it can also work with a tube amp
it can
@@Epochstudios even with that app?
If so I'd really want a vertical 2x12 version
It's a fancier Spark.
Ola, please make a few Kemper profiles and I'll give you my monies cause you're a cool guy. I'd even feed you if you were my guest.
He made a few you can find on rig manager
Kemper needs to come out with a 412 240 watt....
Satana!...he says. Yeah it looks cool and pro; lights and display... at a flashy 'pro' price too...I have spend just over a year with that stuff and plugins and multi-effects boards before that...As someone said, it is just fiddling galore and never a real playing session. It's all gone in the cupboard and out are the old boss pedals straight into a 100w head with some modulation in the loop....Here comes the tone! The hours of playing and also different guitars. As they say: horses for courses.....but, at times, too much choice simply creates confusion and it's an unnecessary waste of resources.
Moi!
I could shout and ask kindly Devin for an autograph but I didn’t do it so I missed an autograph chance, then Dream Theater came, but no way security would let an autograph on the guitar lol :D
Am i the only one that can hear the digital fizziness?? Is that really how the kemper sounds???
How the hell does he have rog manager on his phone wtf
Well the miked cab sound much worse that what I've used to hear from my monitors. Definitely the soun in this video doesnt compliment kemper for high gain tones. The Colin Richardson pack sounds way better directly from my monitors.
In the real world (non profiled or modeled) the differences between the speakers would be much more pronounced.
8:49 lamest pick throw ever. I demand a reshoot and edit of the entire video! Lol jk
You could goofing around with that a year long. That could be problematic.
Got a great eye for the good stuff. I recommend everyone who wants great Metal tones to check out the pack from Petr82 (Peter's Crazy Profiles). By far one of the best Kemper deals in my book! Love my Kemper for sure and I'm getting along great with the Kemper Kab.
Ola I am at Dream Theater concert :D
Still prefer the Axe-Fx
Still using My Axe-FX II XL+ at home and live. Fucking love it
@@demonslayervirgil600 same here but I have the III
Still prefer a real Amp.
Still convinced you guys were going to say that no matter what you heard lol
all the speaker emulations sound terrible. something wrong with top end. no growl. low mids and bottom are weird/non-existent. sounds like a pod
sounds like you don't know how to use eq
nah not for me tube amps forever even kemper through tube amp sounds way better
beanish
Sounds like SHEEIIT.
They all sound kind of weird and phasey. Out of all the modelers I’ve ever tried, nothing comes anywhere near the tone/feel of the Fractal Audio stuff… especially into a power amp and guitar cab.
Kemper isn't a modeler. It's a profiler. There are WICKED good profiles available for purchase and mediocre profiles available for free, and I don't even touch the ones it came with.
everyone sounds like an MT2 like chainsaw😣 there are many better great metal sounds
sounds too artificial, too transistory....
It sounded really bad :P
doesn't sound good
I moved on from kemper a while ago. I liked the product but the company is very slow with product updates and innovations, like it took them years to make a spring reverb. The forum is toxic too. tube amp and IRs are the way forward IMHO
Not only is the forum toxic, the employees treat their customers like they are bothered by them being there. People try to claim its because they are German, but as someone who lived there the average German wasn't a prick like the majority of Kemper Employees on the forum are to their userbase.
I love how many options we get. I'm more an amp sim through a tube power amp and cab guy