Maybe they'll penalize players for doing that without good reason. That, or maybe give the kill reward to the last player to have shot at them. If no shots were fired, then the nearest enemy player to them when they bail will get the kill. It'll at least ensure that somebody didn't chase after a bailer in vain.
I do agree with your second solution. However, I object the first one or the moment. The problem here is bad internet connection. Some people, like me, have unstable connection. I drop out of a game every once in a while because my internet stops working. If this is penalized, players like me are punished even more then we already are. If there would be a way to prevent this, I would embrace penalty's. untill then,I'll object it.
daan stokvis DCed player aircraft could just get under ai control, with player being able to get back to it once reconnected is I think only option where players couldn't cheese DCing not to get killed.
when evading i like the russian tactic of cutting the power to the engine and waiting for the enemy to fail to slow down and over pass me while i hunker down in a stalinium yak plane
I do love the Boomerang when I fly her out, and I'd dare say it's almost easier to fight with these 109s in a situation like this...Japanese on the other hand, well, that maneuverability advantage dries up awfully quick!
I love Boomerang, such a litte nimble thing. Very often underestimated, enemies are often suprised how easily Boomerang can get on thier tail just for that one second to fire a deadly burst :D
The 190 just ejected, as clearly visible from his pilots parachute open. It wouldn't bail unless the plane was damaged beyond rescue or he bailed out himself. He had his flaps up whilst doing it, he bailed out and the plane went into a dive and broke his flaps. They do it, and to some extent I do it too, because they've probably had a bad bunch of games and don't wanna hand you over a kill, So they kill themselves.
Magz, Matey!!! Always a great day when you bring out the "Doomerang!!!" Some of your greatest air battles have been in the venerable Aussie Kite!!!! It is a joy to watch it dance across the sky, spreading mayhem and destruction on the upper tier aircraft!!! ---- Those "Rubes!" never knew what hit them!!! I enjoyed your examples of the "Split S' maneuver and the spiraling "Scissors!" I have been away from your channel for several months, and from WT even longer!!! When I get back into WT, I will practice the ACM maneuvering you so ably demonstrated on those unwitting FW's ---------- All the best from way out West!!! Your Mate , Sprog1 in AZ.
magz the way you explain your engagements is amazing it really puts into perspective every aspect of everymove you make and why, a very good teacher tool.
Dang, you got really lucky that two of the three BV's crashed. I wished that happened more in my games. Those things single handily win most matches for Germany. One BV tends to kill more fighters than the enemy fighters combined, and if you don't kill them quickly, they can easily bomb out all your bases and runway.
I actually did a fairly good evasive fight recently. Spit mk 2b vs an LA-5, LaGG-3, and P-39. Comes to show you evasive flying is all about what you do with your aircraft. I won even though a teammate got the LaGG and the LA got him.
that FW which J´d out there, that´s quite common actually. I have xperienced this quite often allready. Players arm grundtargets, or just fly around in dogfights, and as soon as you are about to kill them, they j out. i experienced this very often and on a regular basis.
I actually enjoy flying the boomerang more than I do the spitfire because of its stall characteristics and also because its armament is very nice for where it sits br wise.
I’m a bit new to War Thunder and am still trying to figure out how I can evade much more professional pilots in P.400’s, P-36’s and BF-109’s in a Spitfire Mk I. Could you please give me some more points about how I can work around these obstacles?
Great video. I don't have a CA13 yet....but you never know. I have been enjoying bringing silly (reserve) biplanes into AB games to bait and have come away with a few kills...twin 7.7's are death by a thousand pin pricks though
Fly out the P-38LO, it's an incredibly dodgy aircraft worth showing its potential. Only you can point it out with valuable points and education along the way.
"Throw the aircraft into a sharp turn and dip it right down *below the water*..." Magz, I know you love your Boomerang and I know it's a plane that can do many things. But this isn't Subnautica, and the Boomerang isn't a submarine. Get it right mate :D.
I am not a 100% shure but I do not think that the 190 pilot at 2:30 just bailed it looked more like he lost connection because of that "explosion" i've seen it a few times before
What are you supposed to do when someone is behind you while you're in a Fw or Ta 152? If I haven't dived all the way to the ground already, there's not much I can do
Phillip Rodriguez lol i actually love those situations: first of all, determine your opponent= what kind of fighter is it? fast and sluggish? or slow and nimble? if the fighter is or wil be faster than you, use your superior roll rate to make him overshoot while lowering your throttle. if he will not be able to catch you just fly away, making SMALL movements if he fires at you, 'cause you don't want to lose precious energy. did i miss anything? any more questions?
how do you fight high tier spitfires as germans (e.g. FW190D-12 vs Spitfire Mk.22/24 , etc.) ? i'd say i'm quite the good pilot but it's SUCH a struggle to even stay on par with these spacefires. usually, after 5-7minutes of sideclimbing i still end up below them and spend the next 15 minutes struggling to stay alive hoping for a mistake, any tips?
Magz. What is your opinion on the use of negative Gs as a evasive maneuver in WT? It has in tandem with the Damage model change (tail-control is more resistant now) made getting on a enemies six at medium to high speeds downright nonviable, as planes such as the P-47 can tank hits to the fuselage in the shortened time on target the dolphining (going up and down) does. BTW. I have made it kinda work with the Firebrandt.
Tail control is more resistant now? When did this happen? This morning? Because just last night my tail control was getting shot out constantly by mg's.
I have noticed less tail-control kills lately and given that Gaijin is bad at putting all their changes in the changelogg, I can only assume that is the case as I spray away at the tail of a P-47 N without any results.
oh please god yes. Tail control was the stupidest damage model nerf. "Oh a single 7.7 hit the tail. well time to die" (maybe not a signle. But I did drop a brand new off the runway P38G, with 30 rounds total, mixed between 7.7 and 12.7 from the Ki-61. Shots striking across the wing and 1 tail boom... cause you know, there's not 2 sets of controls or anything on the P38s.
Magz, i think you should try out the later model P-38 both the J and L, its not so much a request more of a recommendation they are aircraft that can very much surprise both the enemy and the pilot behind the stick
i really wish that you would make a video capitalizing the step by step on some of these maneuvers because i would love to know how to execute them. PS if u have already made a video like that it would be great if someone would point it out to me.
Magz, I'm curious how much of your opponents' misplays were due to this being a Boomerang. Two things: 1. Did your opponents attack you because it was a premium aircraft? Sort of along the lines of "kill the youtuber", I know some players play "kill the premium", even if that means they get tunnel-visioned. 2. Did your opponents simply not know how to attack a Boomerang, given how rare they are in actual play? Simply put -- do you think the match would've gone the same if you had been in a Spitfire Mk. IIb?
My opponents attacked more because the Boomerang is often seen as easy prey, It's an aircraft that is known to be tiered higher than it should be and was clearly the lowest BR aircraft in that match. Who doesn't like an easy kill? Should I have been in a Spitfire IIb, Well firstly I would have been in a match 0.3 higher than should be possible but beyond that things would have gone better. The Spitfires climb rate is more comparable to the F-4 and while it's less durable than the Boomerang, Durability only matters when you are getting shot. The increased turn performance would have made the Spit even harder to hit and as I only used around 500 rounds of ammo that wouldn't have mattered so much either although it is possible ammo may have become an issue due to more opportunities to engage targets.
Maybe the boomerang is at a higher BR than the IIb because it has mk II hispanos like the spit Vb which is also at 3.3. It isn't the first time firepower has effected an aircraft's BR. Also, how's PAX been going? What has meeting your online friends in person for the first time been like? :)
My game in the Havoc Mk.1: out sped the whole entire team, after teasing them to shit some Stupid Spitfire on my team thought it would be fun to shoot me down...
Penny Arcade eXpo, It's a gaming convention along the lines of E3 and Gamescom, Or at least that's the easiest thing to compare it against. And no, Gaijin and War Gaming where not present which is odd, especially for WG.
hey i have a question im on the german skill tree i have the bf 109 1/L through bf 109 f1 unlocked i also have the fw 109 a1 and a4 but it still says i have one more aircraft to unlock till i get to skill 3 but i dont know which one do i need to unlock the bf 109 f2 please help
That Fw190 at the start definetely bailed. I'm getting sick and tired of people doing that to deny kills.
Maybe they'll penalize players for doing that without good reason. That, or maybe give the kill reward to the last player to have shot at them. If no shots were fired, then the nearest enemy player to them when they bail will get the kill. It'll at least ensure that somebody didn't chase after a bailer in vain.
I do agree with your second solution. However, I object the first one or the moment. The problem here is bad internet connection. Some people, like me, have unstable connection. I drop out of a game every once in a while because my internet stops working. If this is penalized, players like me are punished even more then we already are. If there would be a way to prevent this, I would embrace penalty's. untill then,I'll object it.
daan stokvis DCed player aircraft could just get under ai control, with player being able to get back to it once reconnected is I think only option where players couldn't cheese DCing not to get killed.
mSkull he might have lagged out
It shouldn’t even be an option tbh
The Mighty Boomerang. Such a underestimated aircraft.
cannon chaika shall beat it!
Telsion yes in the turn but not in the dive.
Ash the dive? diving is a way of retreating! ARE YOU FRENCH?
Boomerang and Buffalo forever
"dip it right down bellow the water" oh magz... you bloody fried unit, mate
That Subnatica knowledge. After that, a man can make anything into viable submarine.
u do know that nobody in Australia actually talks like that.
Tier 4 Spitfires are glorious.
They are.
That Stive Guy the teams arent
Spitfires are my fav planes in War Thunder :)
birthd wt Hey, who gives a damn about teams when you can get 5 kills per battle, pretty much carrying the matches on your own :P
M1SZ3L pl but what when 3 zeros swarm you?
when evading i like the russian tactic of cutting the power to the engine and waiting for the enemy to fail to slow down and over pass me while i hunker down in a stalinium yak plane
Magz, I REALLY like these kinds of videos, not enough people do videos on defensive flying, keep stuff like this coming!!
Make more videos like this please. Those are the ones I subscribed for.
I support!
I do love the Boomerang when I fly her out, and I'd dare say it's almost easier to fight with these 109s in a situation like this...Japanese on the other hand, well, that maneuverability advantage dries up awfully quick!
Thank you... This helps me very much 🙂
I love Boomerang, such a litte nimble thing. Very often underestimated, enemies are often suprised how easily Boomerang can get on thier tail just for that one second to fire a deadly burst :D
The 190 just ejected, as clearly visible from his pilots parachute open. It wouldn't bail unless the plane was damaged beyond rescue or he bailed out himself.
He had his flaps up whilst doing it, he bailed out and the plane went into a dive and broke his flaps.
They do it, and to some extent I do it too, because they've probably had a bad bunch of games and don't wanna hand you over a kill, So they kill themselves.
Magz, Matey!!! Always a great day when you bring out the "Doomerang!!!" Some of your greatest air battles have been in the venerable Aussie Kite!!!! It is a joy to watch it dance across the sky, spreading mayhem and destruction on the upper tier aircraft!!! ---- Those "Rubes!" never knew what hit them!!! I enjoyed your examples of the "Split S' maneuver and the spiraling "Scissors!" I have been away from your channel for several months, and from WT even longer!!! When I get back into WT, I will practice the ACM maneuvering you so ably demonstrated on those unwitting FW's ---------- All the best from way out West!!! Your Mate , Sprog1 in AZ.
magz the way you explain your engagements is amazing it really puts into perspective every aspect of everymove you make and why, a very good teacher tool.
Those were some of the smoothest maneuvers I've ever seen
4:22 Fuck-A-Wolf! I almost spat my beer at the display. Don't ever change Magz.
2:30, the coward just bailed denying the kill.....
he was a typical stupid ps4 player
paktahn correction, the typical ps4 kid
Kevin Viera
i stand corrected i understand all are not like that but it seems like the vast majority is
I think the FW190 bailed as soon as the mission objective was failed. He probably thought the game was over
Dang, you got really lucky that two of the three BV's crashed. I wished that happened more in my games. Those things single handily win most matches for Germany. One BV tends to kill more fighters than the enemy fighters combined, and if you don't kill them quickly, they can easily bomb out all your bases and runway.
More evasive maneuvers videos please! Also, you explain very well. Keep those videos up!
You playing war thunder explaining is asmr
What amazes me every time is that almost half a team sometimes takes the bait, and loses the match for that one kill....
After 2 long week vacation! Finally i can view your vids maga!
As always, great flying Magz
Always a pleasure to watch someone play well.
well done Magz, you always make that flying barrel of carlton cold look good.
I actually did a fairly good evasive fight recently. Spit mk 2b vs an LA-5, LaGG-3, and P-39. Comes to show you evasive flying is all about what you do with your aircraft. I won even though a teammate got the LaGG and the LA got him.
that first guy didn't "explode" he BAILED to deny you the kill :D i do it ALL THE TIME.
Coward
That's a proper video, nice one magz
Good content m8. I really like how you showcase the plane and not yourself. Looking forward to the next video
For F2P players, this is a Hurricane, but with a huge Aussie nerf to it, and the same tactics can be used (yay).
great flying fella
Awesome vid, great defensive flying!
that FW which J´d out there, that´s quite common actually. I have xperienced this quite often allready. Players arm grundtargets, or just fly around in dogfights, and as soon as you are about to kill them, they j out. i experienced this very often and on a regular basis.
fw190 definitely bailed
Yes, and that explosion was actually his right flap ripping off
Thanks for this.
Sadly playing the bait isn't rewarding, otherwise my german tree would be fully unlocked by now.
Nice flying there, only got hit once
sup MagZ love the vids as always been watching more of you of late
Damn good video, Magz
Go Oz! I am still learning how to handle the Boomerang.
I really do enjoy your tutorial videos. Very informative and useful
Sometimes, you gotta fly towards your team and Guns D. Nuff said.
I actually enjoy flying the boomerang more than I do the spitfire because of its stall characteristics and also because its armament is very nice for where it sits br wise.
Great video Magz, as usual. Oh and do you think you could fly the Ta 152 H1, great plane, and it's about time you fly it again!
How do you use machine guns without cannons?
I’m a bit new to War Thunder and am still trying to figure out how I can evade much more professional pilots in P.400’s, P-36’s and BF-109’s in a Spitfire Mk I. Could you please give me some more points about how I can work around these obstacles?
Great video. I don't have a CA13 yet....but you never know. I have been enjoying bringing silly (reserve) biplanes into AB games to bait and have come away with a few kills...twin 7.7's are death by a thousand pin pricks though
Love your videos!!! especially the war thunder ones...
Remember kids... the best evasion is to hold 'J' for 3 seconds. (Kidding)
I typically follow 1915 RFC evasion protocol, steep dive to ground level and hope he gives up!
I would always put my Boomerang over the Spitfire. I don't know why, but it just works so much better for me than the IIb.
The boomerang? You mean the bloody Aussie doomerang?
Started playing these days and this and the energy video actually helped me to keep away from getting boned. Nice info!
Fly out the P-38LO, it's an incredibly dodgy aircraft worth showing its potential. Only you can point it out with valuable points and education along the way.
4:22 free "fuck a wolf" reset button
I have the previous version of it that I won years ago, its really good and fun only speed and low 20mm are bit annoying but it's a wonderful aircraft
i was in a hurricane once and i got surrounded by six enemy fighters. i outmaneuvered them all and destroyed them all. it was amazing XD
42 seconds boi. Time to watch some sweet Magz.
Never ever faced an Boomerang!... Are they hated or something?
"Throw the aircraft into a sharp turn and dip it right down *below the water*..."
Magz, I know you love your Boomerang and I know it's a plane that can do many things. But this isn't Subnautica, and the Boomerang isn't a submarine. Get it right mate :D.
Dunno why but when I saw this video I had a big stupid grin on my face
Why do the Boomerang wings look like someone got a fighter fuselage and strapped it onto some SBD Dauntless wings?
I am not a 100% shure but I do not think that the 190 pilot at 2:30 just bailed it looked more like he lost connection because of that "explosion" i've seen it a few times before
What are you supposed to do when someone is behind you while you're in a Fw or Ta 152? If I haven't dived all the way to the ground already, there's not much I can do
Phillip Rodriguez lol i actually love those situations:
first of all, determine your opponent= what kind of fighter is it? fast and sluggish? or slow and nimble?
if the fighter is or wil be faster than you, use your superior roll rate to make him overshoot while lowering your throttle.
if he will not be able to catch you just fly away, making SMALL movements if he fires at you, 'cause you don't want to lose precious energy.
did i miss anything? any more questions?
how do you fight high tier spitfires as germans (e.g. FW190D-12 vs Spitfire Mk.22/24 , etc.) ? i'd say i'm quite the good pilot but it's SUCH a struggle to even stay on par with these spacefires. usually, after 5-7minutes of sideclimbing i still end up below them and spend the next 15 minutes struggling to stay alive hoping for a mistake, any tips?
Great video. I'd love to see a video on evasion applied to Star Citizen. Hopefully 2.6 will be out soon.
Now how do I switch on "team"?
would love to see you fly one of the dornier 335s
Mine.. mine, mine, mine...mine!
Watching the vid then sees a user name that hast "AtomicChicken" in it. Oh god I almost died laughing! RESPECT FOR CREATIVE NAME MAKERS! HELL YEAH!
what do u do when u can't out turn your enemies or outrun them
Today we fly the Boomerang into a less than optimal battle and take a more 'direct' look at some of my more evasive choices.
FTFY Magz :)
Magz. What is your opinion on the use of negative Gs as a evasive maneuver in WT?
It has in tandem with the Damage model change (tail-control is more resistant now) made getting on a enemies six at medium to high speeds downright nonviable, as planes such as the P-47 can tank hits to the fuselage in the shortened time on target the dolphining (going up and down) does.
BTW. I have made it kinda work with the Firebrandt.
Tail control is more resistant now? When did this happen? This morning? Because just last night my tail control was getting shot out constantly by mg's.
I have noticed less tail-control kills lately and given that Gaijin is bad at putting all their changes in the changelogg, I can only assume that is the case as I spray away at the tail of a P-47 N without any results.
oh please god yes. Tail control was the stupidest damage model nerf. "Oh a single 7.7 hit the tail. well time to die"
(maybe not a signle. But I did drop a brand new off the runway P38G, with 30 rounds total, mixed between 7.7 and 12.7 from the Ki-61. Shots striking across the wing and 1 tail boom... cause you know, there's not 2 sets of controls or anything on the P38s.
Linkxsc ok. I retract my statements on tailcontrol being more resistant, I was wrong.
Could use more :) like this thanks , The Texas Gent
He ejected its a new thing in Warthunder
No....its not new at all.......
its not new at all unfortunately.
roll+too much speed=wings away
podamasski You can see the pilot jump out before the plane explodes.
UltraSpartan После катапультирования на большой скорости самолёт потерял управление и сам отломал себе крылья.
Please play more war thunder
magz, why do you use km/h but not altitude in m?
Magz, i think you should try out the later model P-38 both the J and L, its not so much a request more of a recommendation they are aircraft that can very much surprise both the enemy and the pilot behind the stick
My Boomerang handles nowhere near as good as that, did they get nerfed?
can you make a video on the la5f please
Lol I've played with that nine lives guy
i really wish that you would make a video capitalizing the step by step on some of these maneuvers because i would love to know how to execute them.
PS if u have already made a video like that it would be great if someone would point it out to me.
Magz, I'm curious how much of your opponents' misplays were due to this being a Boomerang. Two things:
1. Did your opponents attack you because it was a premium aircraft? Sort of along the lines of "kill the youtuber", I know some players play "kill the premium", even if that means they get tunnel-visioned.
2. Did your opponents simply not know how to attack a Boomerang, given how rare they are in actual play?
Simply put -- do you think the match would've gone the same if you had been in a Spitfire Mk. IIb?
My opponents attacked more because the Boomerang is often seen as easy prey, It's an aircraft that is known to be tiered higher than it should be and was clearly the lowest BR aircraft in that match. Who doesn't like an easy kill?
Should I have been in a Spitfire IIb, Well firstly I would have been in a match 0.3 higher than should be possible but beyond that things would have gone better. The Spitfires climb rate is more comparable to the F-4 and while it's less durable than the Boomerang, Durability only matters when you are getting shot.
The increased turn performance would have made the Spit even harder to hit and as I only used around 500 rounds of ammo that wouldn't have mattered so much either although it is possible ammo may have become an issue due to more opportunities to engage targets.
The 1st fw190 probably lagged out ie fully dropped out not lag spiking
These players made simply novice mistake by not zooming
Maybe the boomerang is at a higher BR than the IIb because it has mk II hispanos like the spit Vb which is also at 3.3. It isn't the first time firepower has effected an aircraft's BR.
Also, how's PAX been going? What has meeting your online friends in person for the first time been like? :)
Super Nova 2b has hispanos
birthd wt The IIb has mk 1 hispanos. It can't use air target belts.
Super Nova the boomerang also rolls faster.
My game in the Havoc Mk.1: out sped the whole entire team, after teasing them to shit some Stupid Spitfire on my team thought it would be fun to shoot me down...
How does this the Fcs Hotas compare to the x55?
What about defensive flying in a heavier less nimble aircraft with a fairly similar energy state?
chances are they just came out of a dive so you could try to make them overshoot or try to extend enough that they lose energy to keep up with you.
I love to bail out when I have no chance to survive xD
It's too early in day for me to want to vomit.
+Driver Nephi ok...Thanks for telling i guess
Lol i do that all the time three on one imma head out 🤣
can you plz fly out the Typhoon? the mg one.
lets go 7 seconds
you must not have played in awhile magz ur aim is usually better
Can we get to see salamander in its current state?
Magz you should check out CoD IW's Single Player its like they went ahead and created a Squadron 42 Light
6th to watch 2nd to comment and love boomerangs
*The Boomerang does not return when thrown. I have been lied to and my day is ruined.*
See anything interesting at PAX?
A couple of things, Still working on the video
+MagzTV Was their WT things at PAX? I don't really know what PAX is
+•5stars • *there
Penny Arcade eXpo, It's a gaming convention along the lines of E3 and Gamescom, Or at least that's the easiest thing to compare it against.
And no, Gaijin and War Gaming where not present which is odd, especially for WG.
MagzTV Oh cool.I recently just got into WoTB and I love it
hey i have a question im on the german skill tree i have the bf 109 1/L through bf 109 f1 unlocked i also have the fw 109 a1 and a4 but it still says i have one more aircraft to unlock till i get to skill 3 but i dont know which one do i need to unlock the bf 109 f2 please help
Any aircraft in Rank 2, The requirement is for any aircraft in that rank.
ohhhh thank you