I love Caroline's honesty, even though she is at times pained to ensure she doesn't come across as being overly negative towards a product or issue, she shouldn't worry, I find her work so informative and well researched and well balanced.
Totally agree with you about the drunk elephant retinol, I use all their products regularly but I used the retinol and nearly burnt my face off and I’m not a retinol virgin. I think they need to tell people how strong it is. Good work Caroline, I will continue to always support what you say and often refer my friends to your channel. 😘
true feminist free thinker provocateur. Dr dray got that wrong. She thought that by vegan retinol, they meant bakuchiol, and then went on a tangent about bakuchiol. I love her channel but that video contained a bit of misinformation. But I also hate that they market it as “vegan retinol.” All retinol is vegan. That’s like saying ‘zero carb water.’
Will definitely try the Skinceuticals. Thank yoouuu! I am tired of DE to be honest. They may have lovely products but if you build a brand on smugness and knowing better than everyone else, you better stick with it. Silicones are the devil but retinol at 1% is fine for everyone. Okay boo, carry on.
Skinceuticals is fantastic. They were the first retinol I EVER tried and my favourite. I first tried it years ago (before Skinceuticals was even really known in the UK) and must admit have tried lots of other reinols but NONE of the other retinols are as great as the Skinceuticals one. I tried the DE one and my skin peeled off. The next morning it was peeling and my makeup by the end of he day when I got home from work was patchy where my skin was flaking/peeling off. It took about a week of using really rich cream and sudocrem for my skin to stop peeling. I messaged DE about what happened and was shocked (when I finally got a reply) by their response. They were really condescending and patronising in their reply almost speaking to me like I was a silly little idiotic school girl and almost like it was my fault NOT theirs. I couldn't believe their reply. It is almost like success has gone to their heads? If they don't get down off their soapbox then they are going to lose customers. I like a few of DE items but after the episode with the retinol and their message to me I was insulted and disappointed with them and it has put me off buying other products because of their reply (TBH I bought the item from either Cult Beauty or Space NK (I live in the UK and DE do not ship to the UK) but messaged DE for their advice as they make the product) x
@@liverpool2sex I've read about their terrible replies to people who don't get on with their products. It's so unprofessional and just dumb. I can move on, you know? No brand is truly irreplaceable these days. My Alpha H retinol is almost done and I will absolutely try Skinceuticals.
This is part of the reason why myself and many others keep coming back to Caroline for skin care information. Straight forward and no beating around the bush. Love!
Dear Caroline Love your work and the detail and care you put in for us to benefit from. Regarding DE and it's complexities, I thank you for explaining the concern you identify, and for doing it so neutrally (just the facts ma'am). I hope you did not have any/too much negative response. Keep doing the good work you do and as they said on Absolutely Fabulous "in with anger out with love"!
I love DE but I love you even more for helping us be a voice to let these brands know what’s up, I’ll never speak out hate against any brands but money talks and I won’t spend where I see them being irresponsible!
Thank you for saying that about the DE A-Passioni. I've seen some cringe-worthy advice about its use. It's a good product, but is overpriced and overhyped, in my opinion.
I feel like DE has always been like this "IF THEY MAKE IT, ITS GOLD AND IF NOT THEN ITS JUNK"! This retinol gave me the worst acne and yeah these 61 other ingredients were not needed with retinol. As always, you were clean and clear ;) Thankyou again for all your hardwork and dedication!!
Thanks so much for your thorough and honest review, Caroline. Making sense of an 80+ list of ingredients is a bit much even for science-informed individuals - my first inclination is that product folks are trying to obscure attention to important issues - an emphasis on the complexity of the formulation rather than a focus on the efficacy of the actual formula. Your reviews are unparalleled and indispensable in the skincare world 👍😘
Love your honesty, sad that you feel conflicted speaking openly about DE. These Retinol videos have been incredible and are becoming very important amongst user communities so thank you so so much for taking the time to put them together. 💕
This series couldn't have come at a better time for me. Ive been using The Ordinary Granactive Retinoid Emulsion for about 2 years now and (as Im not getting any younger - I wish), I need to move onwards and most definitely upwards! Ive used Skinceuticals serums/toners and spf for a number of years so Im so glad you mentioned their retinol - its the insider knowledge ( that I lack) that I needed to hear before upgrading :) And thanks for your honesty RE - DE in this vid (as with all) Its never easy critiqing products from brands you like but that's why we flock here Caroline :) x
Thanks again for your brilliant work!!! And I totally agree about DE A-Passioni; when I first used it a little too close to my eyes I got a very bad reaction. I couldn’t use any make up on my lids or anywhere around my eyes for a week. Even tough I buffered it with moisturizer! Now I use it only on „safe“ areas (forehead, cheeks, chin, bridge of my nose) and keep on buffering.
The medik8 video sounds like a great idea actually, especially since they just added 2 more Crystal Retinal serums with lower strengths. Which makes their total amount of Vit A products something like 15...
Excellent series. Honest, informative and always enjoyable listening to your expert advice. Love the Paula’s Choice 1% (purple bottle). Saw Nadine talking about it a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back since. I always get it from Look Fantastic when they run 20% off which makes it much more affordable as well as an excellent and efficacious product. Definitely recommend. Thank you Caroline for all the hard work that has gone into this series ❤️
Great video, totally agree about the DE retinol... I was SO excited to use it, but after more than 2 months of only using it a few times a week with b-hydra as well, my skin was getting more and more irritated. Even washing my face with gentle cleansers burned. My skin is used to acids and retinols so I was shocked my skin reacted this way. It did help a little with some of my scarring. But I quit using it because of how irritated and peeling my skin was. I still have almost my full tube left and I’m terrified to ever use it again. I don’t think it was worth the money I spent on it:( Great review as always
Thank you, Caroline 💐💐💐 This is what Paula says about the retinol booster: “Dispense 2-3 drops and add to your favourite moisturiser or serum. May also be used alone.”. So I guess the booster is less irritating than the treatment because it doesn’t contain Vit C, and it’s meant to be buffered/mixed (like all her boosters...). It’s also lighter in texture. Basically with these 2 retinol products, she makes it easier for us to use “retinol” all year round. I think Nathan used to work for PC. He has done a good job since working for DE improving Paula’s Vitamin C booster (the packaging in particular), but he hasn’t been so successful with the retinol.
I have been away from your channel for over two years...WHY?! WHY?! WHY?! How could I have taken for granted you and your amazing content? Thank you for this series. I've just crossed over to the 30's and fell off from using retinol a few years ago. Decided to do a spring cleaning of my skincare and your channel is the first stop before any purchasing any new items. Merci Caroline! Lots of Love from Paris.
Just curious which brand SPF are you using for your face while you are using prescription Treninoin/RetinA/Retrides? We all know you aren’t a hater and have been a supporter of DE! You are just being honest and have expert experience for over 20 plus years in the industry working with so many brands/products. As someone who had two bad experiences with DE blaming me for using a suspicious six when I totally didn’t with their products (when I wrote to them about my breaking out from those two of their products, they made me feel shitty. I don’t feel comfortable buying from them after being blamed when it’s possible their products do have the ability to cause skin reactions whether or not they consist of the “suspicious six.” I appreciate what the company does, has accomplished and the charity they do, but I don’t like the fact if you disagree with them, then you are considered a hater which is so wrong. Not every product from a brand is perfect for every single person. A few might be affective for me from a brand, but not the entire line. Thank you for another great informational video on Retinols.
Super Vixen I know that Caroline has raved about Heliocare face (50) in the past. I’ve literally just bought some, funnily enough, after the spf 50 I was previously using wasn’t agreeing with my skin. Looking forward to trying it out.
SkinCeuticals 1.0 retinol is an incredible product; I’d recommend to anyone that can’t decide between this and DE. Thanks Caroline! Couldn’t agree more.
"WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO MY FACE" - you've taken the words right out of my mouth, thank you!! I want to up my retinol strength (currently using Ordinary Retinol 0.5% in Squalane with no side effects) but there is so much marketing confusion around brands, all claiming to have "super strength retinol". My future skin thanks you :)
I have found DE have become very patronising when you message them and nothing is ever their fault or problem. It is like success has gone to their heads. Also they take ages to reply now (if they reply) I live in the UK and have asked their advice and a couple of years ago they would be really sweet and reply quickly BUT in the last 6 months they have really changed and take ages to reply and are not as helpful and nice in their replies. Have you found that? x
yeah, they seem to be acting more desperately or something recently. Super odd for a brand that already has all the marbles, if you will. I think them getting hit with lawsuits is scaring the sh I te out of them and are thus losing their sense of good judgment under pressure. I feel the cracks are starting to show with this brand.
@@msheartface5288 You haven't heard about it from bloggers bc that kind of information isn't worth their blog space/ isn't in their 'lane'. Also, that kind of information isn't readily avail to the public and therefore to breach that topic is a bit gossipy. Also, bloggers are not news sources. anyway, Skinceuticals has a patent on the the L-AA formulation, and they're saying DE illegally copied/ are using it in their C Firma. That's all I know! There may be more but I don't know.
Thanks for your honest opinions. I don’t know how the whole you tube game works but my hope is that your channel stays information based and not driven by pleasing the brands. I guess it’s a razors edge. You’ve got the clout in my book. I love the drunk elephant products, but they are on the pricey side of the spectrum, so it’s nice to learn about alternatives at different price points. I am a big fan. 🙏💜🥰
Thank you for all your efforts in putting this series together ❤️️would love a dedicated segment on Medik8 - I really like this brand and it is easily accessible in Australia but they have so many retinol products that it is a little confusing xx 😘
Wow. Thank you so much for making sure products are used properly when it might be uncomfortable. All I can say is that you’re saving a lot of possible damage for those peoples that don’t know much about retinol and it’s greatly appreciated specifically one so hyped as that one. Yikes. Thank you again to you and your team. ❤️❤️😘
I freaking LOVE you omg. You’re so honest and up front. Yes yes yes! You are so right. They should NOT be advising people to cocktail and mix their retinol with other products. That is horrifying. Especially with how strong their product is
As usual , excellent video 👍🏼👍🏼 as for brand Suggestions, Truth treatment please , it’s quite expensive, would be nice to get your opinion on it since the suggested use is every 10 days
I appreciate the delicate situation and your advice. It's important to understand that some people who have not used or are not familiar with products could make very painful mistakes. I'm so grateful for you sharing your knowledge. You are so great! Thank you.
Kelly K hi. Can I ask you which Ordinary Retinol you have used please? I have a 5% granactive Retinol which I want to use and wondering if you have tried it. Thank you.
@@53peace Hi I used Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion and Retinol 0.2% in Squalane. I prefer the 2% emulsion but would love to see what Caroline thinks. It stings on application for me but did not cause any peeling.
Same here. I have a very sensitive skin, prone to irritation. I tried using Granactive Retinoid 0.2 in squalane, but it just caused too much irritation. I've tried the emulsion, and have been using it for months. I always buffer with other products, but I can see a slight difference in my skin texture. It's not dramatic, but I don't think my skin could handle anything stronger than this.
I love the Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion! It’s the only retinoid/retinol product I’ve ever used. I have the Sunday Riley High Dose product but haven’t tried it yet.
Caroline I know you you are risking the relationship you have with DE and some of the other brands with your honest reviews. As far as DE, if I was in their Risk department and saw your review, a review from someone who is considered an expert in the industry and has done their due diligence in the completion of this project, I would be jumping up and down and have those posts immediately ripped down off of Instagram. Especially because of the civil suit happy culture that exists in the States. As always we appreciate your straightforward honesty. As for me, my fave is the Paula’s Choice 1%. Love the results has always played nicely with the other products I use in the evening. Keep calm and buffer on.
DE says on their website that you can apply their retinol product in the morning or night. I have never heard of a company promoting the use of a retinol product during the day. We support you! SkinMedica, Obagi, and Truth Treatment Systems reviews please
Great video, thanks for making it...would it be possible for you to also make a video about retinol formulas you can use around the eye (like Kate Somerville and some others you can use around the eyes)???
I use the Drunk Elephant A - PASSIONI Retinol Cream. It’s phenomenal. I use it every two, three nights once a day on those days. After cleansing & toning, I use a DE Serum. Let this absorb for a few minutes. I then apply the DE Retinol Cream on its own no where near my eye area. (layering this) Allow this to absorb for a minute or two. I then apply my moisturiser cream a smidgeon of oil together, and done...WORKS PERFECTLY. On nights I don’t use my DE Retinol Cream, I usually mix most of products together, other than my DE acids. These are always applied separately, at any time, to the other products in the DE product range. 98% of my skincare is DE.🙏🏻👏🏻💯👌🏻🥰🌺🇦🇺 Caroline you’re not a hater or negative, yet I agree with you in that NO Retinol on the eyes, or near them. The first I used the DE Retinol I accidentally applied a little around near my eyes and my eyes stung and were weeping for hours on end. My mistake...lots of love from Australia 🇦🇺
I love DE, but their retinol caused the worst reaction I ever had in my whole life. It is very rough, my skin burned, turned into paper thin and peeled so badly after two use over a period of one week and buffed with B-hydra. I have used clinical strength vitamin A for quite some time, but never such reaction. Thank you Caroline for this Video. People need to be aware, I love DE’s Vitamic C and B hydra, but their retinol is very rough. Get a sample to try first and make sure you are very careful with where you apply this stuff. Not around your eyes, chin, mouth and nose area.
Thank you so much for always being truthful with us. I'm 33 and didn't start TRULY taking care of my skin until a couple years ago. I don't know much, and I depend on videos like this to help me navigate the crazy world of skin care. I do have a great friend who's an amazing esthetician and I'm so thankful for her help, but I also want to learn and not be texting or calling her every single day, ya know? She's a busy lady! Lol I have never thought or assumed you were being a "hater", you're always fair to brands. Much love!! 💜💜💜
thank you so much for continuing to be 100% transparent and genuine. this is why we love you because we can trust you!! so much respect is owed to you!!!
Your honesty is why I follow you. So many bloggers seem to have been bought by a brand and unreservedly champion every product... there have to be exceptions particularly when super active chemicals are involved. I like some DE products, but feel their response to my query (why is c firma burning my face?) was money grabbing and dishonest. They immediately told me it was my own fault for not using an extortionately priced DE moisturiser, and all their other gubbins. I wish they had just told me what I needed to hear: start slowly and use a very small amount until your skin adapts. Which I had to get from one of your videos. I love DE products, but I love honesty, specificity and warnings far far more when it comes to skincare that I’m a. Paying the earth for b. Putting on eczema prone skin. Please don’t change - we need people like you 😘
Hi Caroline, You asked for feedback about Drunk Elephant vitamin A. I used this product on virgin skin as you call it. I was 32 and wanted to use a retinol after hearing about its benefits. I had no idea what I was doing and I trusted Drunk Elephant because of their convincing marketing. I used it straight, no buffering, every night for maybe 4 nights - luckily I didn’t put it around my eyes, because my skin freaked! It was so red and painful and I was so confused why it would cause that until I started to do my research, which was actually when I found you and the treasure trove of information on your platforms. Kate Somervilles goat milk cleanser and moisturizer saved me btw. But it was such a terrible experience that I am just now looking to try vitamin A again. So, thank you for this video series, it is so helpful and appreciated!
Glad you're doing The Ordinary retinols. They offer one which is 5% 'granactive retinoid' and i find it all so confusing knowing if i'm buying a good strength/quality retinol, especially as i'm on a tight budget at the moment.
Thank you so much, Caroline!!! Good to know I’m not going crazy. I found DE’s retinol not only deceiving, but very poorly packaged. I took the courage to write my review over at SpaceNk after 3 months of literal suffering and burnt face and am waiting for the fans to come after me :) Come as they may, I take solace in the fact that behind the keyboards of the glowing reviews peeling faces are desperately looking for barrier repair solutions in their other tabs. Still cannot get how this product got the reviews it did - even wondered if they’re pulling a Sunday Riley 😂😂😂
You have helped me spend my money wisely, I was on the fence regarding DE's version and had it on my wish list, after listening carefully to your review/advice combined with PC having a 15% sale, I decided to go with PC. Thank you so much for the information you generously share with us.
Thank you for your honesty Caroline, this is why we love you so much, and so should DE for telling them they are not consistent in their messages and are putting their customers at risk. I was surprised to see their retinol cream in the vignette of your video considering they are a mild product brand for me. On another note, I've noticed that SkinCeuticals France only proposes their 0.3% cream, not the other ones, I need to ask them why (legislation maybe?). Take care, sending love from Paris ♥
You’ve explained how to use it and where not to put on your face ! Neck, nose etc . Whatever people say, it’s potent don’t mix it. Use your head. Love you C !!
Re the PC 1% retinol booster: I use it just as that - a booster to be mixed with any number of other moisturizing products (for me, I mix with the PC Calm serum since the 2 products are similarly liquid-ish and thus mesh evenly for even retinol application.) I can't use retinol during the coldest 3-4 months of the year (too drying/ irritating), so there sits idle my little .15ml bottle. But it's just big enough for me to still finish within the 12month usage window. I can use as much/ little as I want according to how my skin is feeling/ looking, and I like the succinct list of ingredients/ efficient packaging (although, plastic is air permeable so I don't love that). It's also priced appropriately. For me, it's a keeper. (until I hear your Medik8 reviews...this brand has my interest.)
Bravo. I am so over the DE hype, they have some nice formulas but they are not the second coming and I’m so tired of hearing that they are. I appreciate your honesty 😊
I know I'm late to the party, I was not a first-time retinol user, but DE really made me peel. No matter how much I moisturized, no matter how much I used to B Hydra. I only used it once a week for a while and it still didn't change. I finally gave up and moved on to Murad, and I'm happier than ever with my skin. Thanks for your videos, I really enjoyed learning about all the retinols.
Thank you so much Caroline for all the research you’ve done about the Retinol products. I started last year with Indeed, moved on to Neostrata and now I have the information I need to try something stronger. I really appreciate your honesty about the products-as Tiffany Masterson said you are a skin care activist 👏❤️
THANK YOU! For being honest. My skin reacted horribly to DE and I used it very responsibly and introduced it slowly . I’ve always respected you and valued your knowledge, and this video deepens that trust.
The Drunk Elephant retinol is BY FAR the most irritating retinol I've ever used - it made my skin burn and peel LIKE NO OTHER. They even suggested it could be used with their glycolic product, and that's downright irresponsible.
I think it depends on your skin, I use their aha and retinol on same routine without problems. They are not perfect but I wouldn’t judge the entire line on one opinion / experience
@@msheartface5288 Your answer is exactly the kind that DE would typically give to a customer, lol. It must be the customer's fault because the product could never be the problem, right? Wrong: if I had gone against the brand's directions, I would be warning people to follow their guidance, not to stay away from the product altogether if their skin is in any way sensitive. For the record, I've never used more than PEA-SIZED amount on my face and neck AND I've never used it more than once a week AND I stopped using all other active (and potentially irritating) ingredients while trialling A-Passioni. When using it neat on the skin caused too much irritation, I tried to sandwich it between a hyaluronic and niacinamide serum (The Ordinary) and then a panthenol-containing reparative cream (LRP Cicaplast), which dilutes the product and boosts the skin's barrier function and is recommended by dermatologists to ease your way into retinol use. Still, my face was left peely and burning afterwards, so the problem is definitely the formula and not my application of it. I've tried a number of other retinols with no problems (Paula's Choice, Verso, Sunday Riley, Zelens and Dr Dennis Gross). While it seems to work fine for lots of customers, there are also lots of customers whose skin has been seriously irritated by it (perphaps by one of the 61 non-retinol ingredients in the product, lol). The main point is that brand hasn't done half enough to warn customers of how potentially irritating their product is.
lavien'estpasunlongfleuvetranquille definitely not the customers fault for sure. I did say further down that I wouldn't be buying full size. It is bizarre how we all react differently to various products - my skin was irritated using Dr Dennis Gross. Thanks for your detailed reply which I found interesting- I'm currently using Neostrata without issue. All the best ..
Thanks Caroline. You are always so informative. I started using the de retinol about a month ago and would use it 2x a week with a 3rd in between of Jordan samuels. I figured I had used the JS for awhile and shouldn’t have a problem. I noticed my skin around my temples, close to my eye, was appearing like I had a bad sunburn. And my mint gel cleanser stung. I stopped using it 2x and switched to 1 in between JS. I can’t imagine anyone putting that directly around the eye. I will continue to use up the DE as long as the current use doesn’t irritate. But then I think I will switch to Rene Rousseau. I really like her products.
I'm in my late 30's and it just occurred to me that I needed retinol in my skincare regimen, so I'm trying to figure out which product is suitable for me. This video really helped in educating me to invest and knowing the products better and not just following trends. Thank you dear
I love that you're keeping it totally transparent despite the very unfortunate and sad fact that you might get called out by a brand. I'm learning this right now actually, I don't understand how a brand could not appreciate a respectful and constructive feedback from its customers and people who have been working in the industry for years. If anything, receiving it positively could only benefit their image. As for myself, I have been using the DE retinol for weeks now, and I am still peeling big time. I have never used so little of a product (not my first retinol), with so much of the side effects in return. I've only been using it twice a week, buffering it when I felt that my skin hadn't recovered from the previous application. Right now, I'm skipping an application to let my skin repair itself and recover from the sensitivity. What I find strange, is that, despite a very careful application (pea size, avoiding the eye area and any place the skin could "fold" and cause the product to stagnate in one place...) the reaction keeps on being very irregular. I sometimes apply it twice a week with moderate peeling and no sensitivity, but then I might all of a sudden get very sensitized skin that peels like a boiled potato. I'm not an expert in formulation, but it doesn't "feel" like this one is "stable". Now as far as warning those who might think this is ok to use on virgin skin, or even one that has only been used to mild retinols: I inadvertently slid my hands from the back of my neck to my clavicles after applying this product. So lightly and unintentionally, that I had to retrace my steps and any product (hair, face, body..) I had used in the past few days to try and understand what was happening. The back of my neck, the collar area, and the place where it meets my traps (and conviniently folds when you sleep on your side) started becoming red, swollen and ichy as the day went. By the end of the day, it looked like I had had a rope tied and rubbed around my neck on different spots. Full blown burn. Mind you, this was two days after the application. I've been alternating applications of marula oil, hyaluronic acid and manuka honey to heal the burns and speed up the repairing process, and though it is much better, I'm still at it a week later. Imagine taking THAT around your eyes. I still can't speak for the results of the product, but it is very irritating, and buffering it is not an option in my opinion, it is mandatory if you want to keep your skin from going through different stages of peeling/inflamation or worse. I'll keep at it because the potential results(and the money spent honestly) are enough motivation, but I WILL be making sure to buffer it every time. Imagine using a product to take your skin to the next level, only to have it cause more lesions and damage @@.
Just adore what you do!! Thinking about the time when I was 30 and had no chance to learn so much about skin care and products...what a waste...but luckily it's different now and there are experts like you who can share so much knowledge and experience and I can learn So much from you! Thank you!❤️
New sub here from Tara’s channel. Thank you so much for this advice! I think I’ve gone through at least half the products mentioned in your last 3 videos. You’re being knowledgeable not mean or rude.
Excellent video Caroline. Thank you. I've read lots of reviews of DE and it seems to be very harsh. I would love to see a review of Rejuvi and Dr Dennis Gross retinols.
I started using the SR A+ as soon as it dropped into UK shelves - in conjunction with other SR products. I'm a VitA virgin! I've been following their advice, using for two nights with CEO oil, then my regular routine the following two nights, and alternating that way. And have to say, I've had no bad reaction and my skin looks glowing and is very happy. I find that SR gives immediate pay off with most products, and am waiting to hopefully see improvements and changes over time as well with this.........but so far, so good and it's been a great first taste of VitA!.
I use Drunk Elephant and have for a long time. Going against my better judgement, I buffered a tiny bit of the retinol with the protini AND the C Tango on my entire face/ eyes and the next morning even my eye lids were peeled!!!! I tried using the B Hydra to get moisture and it burned!!!!! You’re doing the right thing, Caroline! Thank you for your recommendations.
Your series on this is phenomenal!! I've learned so much from you, and i thank you! I rely on your honesty and your opinions. I cherish both qualities, and appreciate it! Bravo! I support you 110%
It would be very on point and precautionary if there was a post-retinol recovery treatment video after all of these skin hassling practices.. Lots of appreciation and gratitude for the series💜😄
So happy you finally featured DE. I bought this product - have had no side effects which makes me believe its not doing the job of a "classic" retinol. I definitely won't be buying this again. I at least expected a little peeling, but was able to start using it daily right away and I have extremely sensitive skin - does not make any sense to me!
Excellent, Caroline. I couldn’t agree with you more about DE. I followed their IG and was cringing at the suggestions and advice (they have since backed off a bit) of mixing this retinol EVEN with the TLC glycolic at night. You never use an AHA/BHA together with a retinol (especially 1%). That is a recipe for disaster, and will most definitely disrupt your skin barrier. I don’t know why they would even think to suggest that. I happen to love their BHydra and CFirma, but I got really turned off with this marketing of their APassioni. Thx for your hard work!
Dear Caroline would love to hear your thoughts on the Osmosis brand of vitamin A products, they use retinaldehyde at various strengths and I've been really curious about them!
Thank you for being so honest on your reviews Caroline and for caring about us all. I've used the Drunk Elephant's retinol and found it like an atomic bomb. You get real results but also have to deal with the damage. Lot's of peeling, redness and sensitivity. Keep doing what you do. Love*
Totally agree with you Caroline! I love many of their products too but agree with your thoughts completely. It is what it is. Thank you for always sharing your honest opinion and keeping us informed!
Love the "jazz hands" comment!😂😂😂😂 I did not know about the Paula's Choice booster, but I think I will stick with the Paula's Choice retinol. Thank you for more great education. Rock on CH rock star!
I’m sat here watching this video after burning my face off by using drunk elephant retinol twice over the space of a week. I had no idea it was so strong and totally agree with what you’re saying.
So glad for your honest review not only in the DE product but with this entire series!!! I do have one question though. Where does Differin fall in this series????
Forgive me if you’ve covered this one already, I couldn’t find it in your previous videos, but what’s your opinion of the Dr Dennis Gross Ferulic + Retinol Brightening Solution Serum? Are you able to dermine the amount of retinol?’Thank you for all this advice-soooo helpful!
Somewhere on the instructions for DE it says you can mix with C-firma (daytime) or TLC (night time) I believe. Not a good idea. My face was on fire! Also don’t put it on your eyes... tried that too, as per their instructions. My eyelids looked and felt like I’d burnt them, were tight and unable to wear make up. I have used Obagi prescription tret (1%, 0.5% and 0.25%) and obagi non prescription retinol 0.5 and 1%, in the past with no problems. Will try buffering the DE with moisturiser, because I still find it very strong.
B Coffee I have tried the Passioni with the C-Firma and the TLC. But I alternated it at night for a few months. Once my skin got used to it, I started layering all 3 with the Peptides and moisturizer as a buffer. I can only tell my skin is peeling if I put foundation...the good news is I can get away with just my tinted SPF because the formulas work!
I find the marketing in skincare, across the board, often misleading. Not for every brand, I find some (precious few) to be candid and honest and genuinely trying to be unlike what we have seen in the past. And it's not just recently of course, there has been misinformation and marketing outrageous promises since the beginning of advertisement. Yet, what I have a problem with even more is that the newer 'indie' 'clean' brands are so smug about their product and yet employ the same kind of acrobats that the old brands have done just in different formats such as Instagram and social media. It's hypocrisy. I'm not saying Drunk Elephant does not have great skin care, but I find myself being turned off by their message here and there. This goes for a few others I have seen as well. Thank you for calling brands out on that. Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
You are...... HILARIOUS! And incredibly helpful! Seriously- I absolutely love your videos and your advice is priceless! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Thank you so much for this series... I can see how much work you have put into it, and it truly is appreciated 😊 As you asked, I would love to hear you're opinion on the American brand Poppy Austin. I use their retinol cream (marketed at 2.5%) and love it. They also have a retinol serum, same %, which I haven't tried... yet! ❤
Great video and great series Caroline! Just one bit of constructive feedback - I find your videos a bit overexposed and it's hard to see the products sometimes.
Honesty goes a long way. Even when it’s uncomfortable. Bravo Caroline!
I love Caroline's honesty, even though she is at times pained to ensure she doesn't come across as being overly negative towards a product or issue, she shouldn't worry, I find her work so informative and well researched and well balanced.
Thanks x
You should start a retinol line and call it, Dont Worry,Caroline Made It.
P Heart yess! I alone would keep her in business 😂👍🏻
BRILLIANT idea! Go on Caroline! You know you want to ;-) xxx
I would buy it!
@@wildflowers100 me too
Totally agree with you about the drunk elephant retinol, I use all their products regularly but I used the retinol and nearly burnt my face off and I’m not a retinol virgin. I think they need to tell people how strong it is. Good work Caroline, I will continue to always support what you say and often refer my friends to your channel. 😘
Ellie M love the noddy comment couldn’t agree more 🤣
true feminist free thinker provocateur. Dr dray got that wrong. She thought that by vegan retinol, they meant bakuchiol, and then went on a tangent about bakuchiol. I love her channel but that video contained a bit of misinformation.
But I also hate that they market it as “vegan retinol.”
All retinol is vegan. That’s like saying ‘zero carb water.’
Will definitely try the Skinceuticals. Thank yoouuu!
I am tired of DE to be honest. They may have lovely products but if you build a brand on smugness and knowing better than everyone else, you better stick with it. Silicones are the devil but retinol at 1% is fine for everyone. Okay boo, carry on.
Skinceuticals is fantastic. They were the first retinol I EVER tried and my favourite. I first tried it years ago (before Skinceuticals was even really known in the UK) and must admit have tried lots of other reinols but NONE of the other retinols are as great as the Skinceuticals one. I tried the DE one and my skin peeled off. The next morning it was peeling and my makeup by the end of he day when I got home from work was patchy where my skin was flaking/peeling off. It took about a week of using really rich cream and sudocrem for my skin to stop peeling. I messaged DE about what happened and was shocked (when I finally got a reply) by their response. They were really condescending and patronising in their reply almost speaking to me like I was a silly little idiotic school girl and almost like it was my fault NOT theirs. I couldn't believe their reply. It is almost like success has gone to their heads? If they don't get down off their soapbox then they are going to lose customers. I like a few of DE items but after the episode with the retinol and their message to me I was insulted and disappointed with them and it has put me off buying other products because of their reply (TBH I bought the item from either Cult Beauty or Space NK (I live in the UK and DE do not ship to the UK) but messaged DE for their advice as they make the product) x
@@liverpool2sex I've read about their terrible replies to people who don't get on with their products. It's so unprofessional and just dumb. I can move on, you know? No brand is truly irreplaceable these days.
My Alpha H retinol is almost done and I will absolutely try Skinceuticals.
Natasha Bain my skin didn't peel or fall off. You only need a tiny amount...
B-Hydra I love too. Thanks for being honest. I know you are not a hater. Bless you.
This is part of the reason why myself and many others keep coming back to Caroline for skin care information. Straight forward and no beating around the bush. Love!
This is such a great series! I can’t wait for more - no pressure intended! Thank you! Also - how about a similar series on Vitamin C?
Dear Caroline
Love your work and the detail and care you put in for us to benefit from. Regarding DE and it's complexities, I thank you for explaining the concern you identify, and for doing it so neutrally (just the facts ma'am). I hope you did not have any/too much negative response. Keep doing the good work you do and as they said on Absolutely Fabulous "in with anger out with love"!
I love DE but I love you even more for helping us be a voice to let these brands know what’s up, I’ll never speak out hate against any brands but money talks and I won’t spend where I see them being irresponsible!
Sarah Henson amazing point 💕🙌🏻
Good girl for calling out DE! Truth in marketing is sometimes lacking. Thank you , Caroline!
Thank you for saying that about the DE A-Passioni. I've seen some cringe-worthy advice about its use. It's a good product, but is overpriced and overhyped, in my opinion.
Thank you so much for all your Retinol / Vitamin A review. They are my new bible! And I appreciate the thorough work you do.
Happy its helping x
I feel like DE has always been like this "IF THEY MAKE IT, ITS GOLD AND IF NOT THEN ITS JUNK"! This retinol gave me the worst acne and yeah these 61 other ingredients were not needed with retinol.
As always, you were clean and clear ;) Thankyou again for all your hardwork and dedication!!
Saleha Samad it gave me the worst acne too! And i has never had it before!
Thanks so much for your thorough and honest review, Caroline. Making sense of an 80+ list of ingredients is a bit much even for science-informed individuals - my first inclination is that product folks are trying to obscure attention to important issues - an emphasis on the complexity of the formulation rather than a focus on the efficacy of the actual formula. Your reviews are unparalleled and indispensable in the skincare world 👍😘
Love your honesty, sad that you feel conflicted speaking openly about DE. These Retinol videos have been incredible and are becoming very important amongst user communities so thank you so so much for taking the time to put them together. 💕
This series couldn't have come at a better time for me. Ive been using The Ordinary Granactive Retinoid Emulsion for about 2 years now and (as Im not getting any younger - I wish), I need to move onwards and most definitely upwards! Ive used Skinceuticals serums/toners and spf for a number of years so Im so glad you mentioned their retinol - its the insider knowledge ( that I lack) that I needed to hear before upgrading :) And thanks for your honesty RE - DE in this vid (as with all) Its never easy critiqing products from brands you like but that's why we flock here Caroline :) x
Thank you for your honesty and transparency! Even more, thank you for helping me become a more cognizant consumer. 💜
Thanks again for your brilliant work!!! And I totally agree about DE A-Passioni; when I first used it a little too close to my eyes I got a very bad reaction. I couldn’t use any make up on my lids or anywhere around my eyes for a week. Even tough I buffered it with moisturizer! Now I use it only on „safe“ areas (forehead, cheeks, chin, bridge of my nose) and keep on buffering.
The medik8 video sounds like a great idea actually, especially since they just added 2 more Crystal Retinal serums with lower strengths. Which makes their total amount of Vit A products something like 15...
damalulani id love to see a dedicated Medik8 video too, fingers crossed Caroline has time to do one
Excellent series. Honest, informative and always enjoyable listening to your expert advice. Love the Paula’s Choice 1% (purple bottle). Saw Nadine talking about it a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back since. I always get it from Look Fantastic when they run 20% off which makes it much more affordable as well as an excellent and efficacious product. Definitely recommend.
Thank you Caroline for all the hard work that has gone into this series ❤️
Great video, totally agree about the DE retinol... I was SO excited to use it, but after more than 2 months of only using it a few times a week with b-hydra as well, my skin was getting more and more irritated. Even washing my face with gentle cleansers burned. My skin is used to acids and retinols so I was shocked my skin reacted this way. It did help a little with some of my scarring. But I quit using it because of how irritated and peeling my skin was. I still have almost my full tube left and I’m terrified to ever use it again. I don’t think it was worth the money I spent on it:( Great review as always
Thank you, Caroline 💐💐💐
This is what Paula says about the retinol booster: “Dispense 2-3 drops and add to your favourite moisturiser or serum. May also be used alone.”. So I guess the booster is less irritating than the treatment because it doesn’t contain Vit C, and it’s meant to be buffered/mixed (like all her boosters...). It’s also lighter in texture. Basically with these 2 retinol products, she makes it easier for us to use “retinol” all year round.
I think Nathan used to work for PC. He has done a good job since working for DE improving Paula’s Vitamin C booster (the packaging in particular), but he hasn’t been so successful with the retinol.
I have been away from your channel for over two years...WHY?! WHY?! WHY?! How could I have taken for granted you and your amazing content? Thank you for this series. I've just crossed over to the 30's and fell off from using retinol a few years ago. Decided to do a spring cleaning of my skincare and your channel is the first stop before any purchasing any new items. Merci Caroline! Lots of Love from Paris.
Reality is; Brands can also be bullies. Do Not Apologize Caroline, we need honest recommendations and reviews. I appreciate your hard work.
Just curious which brand SPF are you using for your face while you are using prescription Treninoin/RetinA/Retrides? We all know you aren’t a hater and have been a supporter of DE! You are just being honest and have expert experience for over 20 plus years in the industry working with so many brands/products. As someone who had two bad experiences with DE blaming me for using a suspicious six when I totally didn’t with their products (when I wrote to them about my breaking out from those two of their products, they made me feel shitty. I don’t feel comfortable buying from them after being blamed when it’s possible their products do have the ability to cause skin reactions whether or not they consist of the “suspicious six.” I appreciate what the company does, has accomplished and the charity they do, but I don’t like the fact if you disagree with them, then you are considered a hater which is so wrong. Not every product from a brand is perfect for every single person. A few might be affective for me from a brand, but not the entire line. Thank you for another great informational video on Retinols.
Super Vixen I know that Caroline has raved about Heliocare face (50) in the past. I’ve literally just bought some, funnily enough, after the spf 50 I was previously using wasn’t agreeing with my skin. Looking forward to trying it out.
SkinCeuticals 1.0 retinol is an incredible product; I’d recommend to anyone that can’t decide between this and DE. Thanks Caroline! Couldn’t agree more.
I love your passion and adore the fact that you don't shy from the truth. I have been enjoying this series such a lot 💕💕💕
"WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GET TO MY FACE" - you've taken the words right out of my mouth, thank you!! I want to up my retinol strength (currently using Ordinary Retinol 0.5% in Squalane with no side effects) but there is so much marketing confusion around brands, all claiming to have "super strength retinol". My future skin thanks you :)
Love you Caroline :)
Thank you! I use and love a lot of DE. I even use A-Passioni. But they are bullies of the skincare world and it’s just not becoming.
I have found DE have become very patronising when you message them and nothing is ever their fault or problem. It is like success has gone to their heads. Also they take ages to reply now (if they reply) I live in the UK and have asked their advice and a couple of years ago they would be really sweet and reply quickly BUT in the last 6 months they have really changed and take ages to reply and are not as helpful and nice in their replies. Have you found that? x
yeah, they seem to be acting more desperately or something recently. Super odd for a brand that already has all the marbles, if you will. I think them getting hit with lawsuits is scaring the sh I te out of them and are thus losing their sense of good judgment under pressure. I feel the cracks are starting to show with this brand.
It’s completely turned me off of anything from them.
watashiwamillo what lawsuits? Why aren't the bloggers mentioning this? Please elaborate thanks 💕
@@msheartface5288 You haven't heard about it from bloggers bc that kind of information isn't worth their blog space/ isn't in their 'lane'. Also, that kind of information isn't readily avail to the public and therefore to breach that topic is a bit gossipy. Also, bloggers are not news sources. anyway, Skinceuticals has a patent on the the L-AA formulation, and they're saying DE illegally copied/ are using it in their C Firma. That's all I know! There may be more but I don't know.
Thanks for your honest opinions. I don’t know how the whole you tube game works but my hope is that your channel stays information based and not driven by pleasing the brands. I guess it’s a razors edge. You’ve got the clout in my book. I love the drunk elephant products, but they are on the pricey side of the spectrum, so it’s nice to learn about alternatives at different price points. I am a big fan. 🙏💜🥰
I have used the Paula’s choice clinical for a few years now. I LOVE IT!! 😍
Thank you for all your efforts in putting this series together ❤️️would love a dedicated segment on Medik8 - I really like this brand and it is easily accessible in Australia but they have so many retinol products that it is a little confusing xx 😘
Well done! If you meet up with Stephanie Nicole, tell her we miss her on you tube. 👏🤗👍from Diane xx
Thank you for all your hard work. For your America trip- I'd love to hear your opinion on the Cerave Skin Renewing Retinol Serum Cream.
Wow. Thank you so much for making sure products are used properly when it might be uncomfortable. All I can say is that you’re saving a lot of possible damage for those peoples that don’t know much about retinol and it’s greatly appreciated specifically one so hyped as that one. Yikes. Thank you again to you and your team. ❤️❤️😘
Woo hoo! Been looking forward to this...I'm waiting to start my Vit A journey until I have allllll the Hirons info!
I freaking LOVE you omg. You’re so honest and up front. Yes yes yes! You are so right. They should NOT be advising people to cocktail and mix their retinol with other products. That is horrifying. Especially with how strong their product is
As usual , excellent video 👍🏼👍🏼 as for brand Suggestions, Truth treatment please , it’s quite expensive, would be nice to get your opinion on it since the suggested use is every 10 days
I appreciate the delicate situation and your advice. It's important to understand that some people who have not used or are not familiar with products could make very painful mistakes. I'm so grateful for you sharing your knowledge. You are so great! Thank you.
Would loveeeee to see a Skinceuticals brand overview! Please! I'd love to hear your take on the rest of their products/line!
Really looking forward to reviews for The Ordinary products especially the emulsion!!!
Kelly K hi. Can I ask you which Ordinary Retinol you have used please? I have a 5% granactive Retinol which I want to use and wondering if you have tried it. Thank you.
@@53peace Hi I used Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion and Retinol 0.2% in Squalane. I prefer the 2% emulsion but would love to see what Caroline thinks. It stings on application for me but did not cause any peeling.
Same here. I have a very sensitive skin, prone to irritation. I tried using Granactive Retinoid 0.2 in squalane, but it just caused too much irritation. I've tried the emulsion, and have been using it for months. I always buffer with other products, but I can see a slight difference in my skin texture. It's not dramatic, but I don't think my skin could handle anything stronger than this.
@@53peace you're using a retinoid, not retinol. That's why it's placed at level of 5%, otherwise you won't get it otc
I love the Granactive Retinoid 2% Emulsion! It’s the only retinoid/retinol product I’ve ever used. I have the Sunday Riley High Dose product but haven’t tried it yet.
Caroline I know you you are risking the relationship you have with DE and some of the other brands with your honest reviews. As far as DE, if I was in their Risk department and saw your review, a review from someone who is considered an expert in the industry and has done their due diligence in the completion of this project, I would be jumping up and down and have those posts immediately ripped down off of Instagram. Especially because of the civil suit happy culture that exists in the States.
As always we appreciate your straightforward honesty.
As for me, my fave is the Paula’s Choice 1%. Love the results has always played nicely with the other products I use in the evening.
Keep calm and buffer on.
DE says on their website that you can apply their retinol product in the morning or night. I have never heard of a company promoting the use of a retinol product during the day. We support you! SkinMedica, Obagi, and Truth Treatment Systems reviews please
Wow. they're so irresponsible!
Great video, thanks for making it...would it be possible for you to also make a video about retinol formulas you can use around the eye (like Kate Somerville and some others you can use around the eyes)???
I use the Drunk Elephant A - PASSIONI Retinol Cream. It’s phenomenal. I use it every two, three nights once a day on those days. After cleansing & toning, I use a DE Serum. Let this absorb for a few minutes. I then apply the DE Retinol Cream on its own no where near my eye area. (layering this) Allow this to absorb for a minute or two. I then apply my moisturiser cream a smidgeon of oil together, and done...WORKS PERFECTLY. On nights I don’t use my DE Retinol Cream, I usually mix most of products together, other than my DE acids. These are always applied separately, at any time, to the other products in the DE product range. 98% of my skincare is DE.🙏🏻👏🏻💯👌🏻🥰🌺🇦🇺
Caroline you’re not a hater or negative, yet I agree with you in that NO Retinol on the eyes, or near them. The first I used the DE Retinol I accidentally applied a little around near my eyes and my eyes stung and were weeping for hours on end. My mistake...lots of love from Australia 🇦🇺
Followed your advice of stopping use of DE and I can’t thank you enough. Will trust the information you give over that of a brand anyday x
May I ask why Caroline advised you stopusing their products? I thought Caroline liked their products??
She never said to not use their products. This is why she had to reiterate that she was not being a hater because of comments like this...
Not all their products!! Just the retinol😁
I met her at an event and she looked at my skin and told be to stop using it I didn’t say she was being a hater
I love DE, but their retinol caused the worst reaction I ever had in my whole life. It is very rough, my skin burned, turned into paper thin and peeled so badly after two use over a period of one week and buffed with B-hydra. I have used clinical strength vitamin A for quite some time, but never such reaction. Thank you Caroline for this Video. People need to be aware, I love DE’s Vitamic C and B hydra, but their retinol is very rough. Get a sample to try first and make sure you are very careful with where you apply this stuff. Not around your eyes, chin, mouth and nose area.
Thank you so much for always being truthful with us. I'm 33 and didn't start TRULY taking care of my skin until a couple years ago. I don't know much, and I depend on videos like this to help me navigate the crazy world of skin care. I do have a great friend who's an amazing esthetician and I'm so thankful for her help, but I also want to learn and not be texting or calling her every single day, ya know? She's a busy lady! Lol
I have never thought or assumed you were being a "hater", you're always fair to brands.
Much love!! 💜💜💜
thank you so much for continuing to be 100% transparent and genuine. this is why we love you because we can trust you!! so much respect is owed to you!!!
Your honesty is why I follow you. So many bloggers seem to have been bought by a brand and unreservedly champion every product... there have to be exceptions particularly when super active chemicals are involved. I like some DE products, but feel their response to my query (why is c firma burning my face?) was money grabbing and dishonest. They immediately told me it was my own fault for not using an extortionately priced DE moisturiser, and all their other gubbins. I wish they had just told me what I needed to hear: start slowly and use a very small amount until your skin adapts. Which I had to get from one of your videos. I love DE products, but I love honesty, specificity and warnings far far more when it comes to skincare that I’m a. Paying the earth for b. Putting on eczema prone skin. Please don’t change - we need people like you 😘
Thank you! x
Hi Caroline,
You asked for feedback about Drunk Elephant vitamin A. I used this product on virgin skin as you call it. I was 32 and wanted to use a retinol after hearing about its benefits. I had no idea what I was doing and I trusted Drunk Elephant because of their convincing marketing. I used it straight, no buffering, every night for maybe 4 nights - luckily I didn’t put it around my eyes, because my skin freaked! It was so red and painful and I was so confused why it would cause that until I started to do my research, which was actually when I found you and the treasure trove of information on your platforms. Kate Somervilles goat milk cleanser and moisturizer saved me btw. But it was such a terrible experience that I am just now looking to try vitamin A again. So, thank you for this video series, it is so helpful and appreciated!
Glad you're doing The Ordinary retinols. They offer one which is 5% 'granactive retinoid' and i find it all so confusing knowing if i'm buying a good strength/quality retinol, especially as i'm on a tight budget at the moment.
Thank you so much, Caroline!!! Good to know I’m not going crazy. I found DE’s retinol not only deceiving, but very poorly packaged. I took the courage to write my review over at SpaceNk after 3 months of literal suffering and burnt face and am waiting for the fans to come after me :) Come as they may, I take solace in the fact that behind the keyboards of the glowing reviews peeling faces are desperately looking for barrier repair solutions in their other tabs. Still cannot get how this product got the reviews it did - even wondered if they’re pulling a Sunday Riley 😂😂😂
You have helped me spend my money wisely, I was on the fence regarding DE's version and had it on my wish list, after listening carefully to your review/advice combined with PC having a 15% sale, I decided to go with PC. Thank you so much for the information you generously share with us.
Thank you for your honesty Caroline, this is why we love you so much, and so should DE for telling them they are not consistent in their messages and are putting their customers at risk. I was surprised to see their retinol cream in the vignette of your video considering they are a mild product brand for me.
On another note, I've noticed that SkinCeuticals France only proposes their 0.3% cream, not the other ones, I need to ask them why (legislation maybe?).
Take care, sending love from Paris ♥
You’ve explained how to use it and where not to put on your face ! Neck, nose etc . Whatever people say, it’s potent don’t mix it. Use your head. Love you C !!
Re the PC 1% retinol booster: I use it just as that - a booster to be mixed with any number of other moisturizing products (for me, I mix with the PC Calm serum since the 2 products are similarly liquid-ish and thus mesh evenly for even retinol application.) I can't use retinol during the coldest 3-4 months of the year (too drying/ irritating), so there sits idle my little .15ml bottle. But it's just big enough for me to still finish within the 12month usage window. I can use as much/ little as I want according to how my skin is feeling/ looking, and I like the succinct list of ingredients/ efficient packaging (although, plastic is air permeable so I don't love that). It's also priced appropriately. For me, it's a keeper. (until I hear your Medik8 reviews...this brand has my interest.)
i got a feeling Drunk Elephant will eventually "Kat Von D" themselves out of the beauty industry!
allaboutdaniel definitely seeing parallels
allaboutdaniel please elaborate thanks 🙏
What’s that mean?
Please explain
Oh my god learn to use google.
Bravo. I am so over the DE hype, they have some nice formulas but they are not the second coming and I’m so tired of hearing that they are. I appreciate your honesty 😊
You deserve a medal for all the hard work you have done and your honesty 😁👍🏻 thank you
I know I'm late to the party, I was not a first-time retinol user, but DE really made me peel. No matter how much I moisturized, no matter how much I used to B Hydra. I only used it once a week for a while and it still didn't change. I finally gave up and moved on to Murad, and I'm happier than ever with my skin. Thanks for your videos, I really enjoyed learning about all the retinols.
Differin, please! When does that feature on vid? I was hoping it would be on this video. Great series, Caroline. Just loving it!
Next week x
Brilliant! Can't wait 👍
Thank you so much Caroline for all the research you’ve done about the Retinol products. I started last year with Indeed, moved on to Neostrata and now I have the information I need to try something stronger. I really appreciate your honesty about the products-as Tiffany Masterson said you are a skin care activist 👏❤️
THANK YOU! For being honest. My skin reacted horribly to DE and I used it very responsibly and introduced it slowly . I’ve always respected you and valued your knowledge, and this video deepens that trust.
The Drunk Elephant retinol is BY FAR the most irritating retinol I've ever used - it made my skin burn and peel LIKE NO OTHER. They even suggested it could be used with their glycolic product, and that's downright irresponsible.
lavien'estpasunlongfleuvetranquille honestly sounds like you're using way too much 🤷🏻♀️
Me too had the same problem with DE
I think it depends on your skin, I use their aha and retinol on same routine without problems. They are not perfect but I wouldn’t judge the entire line on one opinion / experience
@@msheartface5288 Your answer is exactly the kind that DE would typically give to a customer, lol. It must be the customer's fault because the product could never be the problem, right? Wrong: if I had gone against the brand's directions, I would be warning people to follow their guidance, not to stay away from the product altogether if their skin is in any way sensitive.
For the record, I've never used more than PEA-SIZED amount on my face and neck AND I've never used it more than once a week AND I stopped using all other active (and potentially irritating) ingredients while trialling A-Passioni. When using it neat on the skin caused too much irritation, I tried to sandwich it between a hyaluronic and niacinamide serum (The Ordinary) and then a panthenol-containing reparative cream (LRP Cicaplast), which dilutes the product and boosts the skin's barrier function and is recommended by dermatologists to ease your way into retinol use. Still, my face was left peely and burning afterwards, so the problem is definitely the formula and not my application of it. I've tried a number of other retinols with no problems (Paula's Choice, Verso, Sunday Riley, Zelens and Dr Dennis Gross). While it seems to work fine for lots of customers, there are also lots of customers whose skin has been seriously irritated by it (perphaps by one of the 61 non-retinol ingredients in the product, lol). The main point is that brand hasn't done half enough to warn customers of how potentially irritating their product is.
lavien'estpasunlongfleuvetranquille definitely not the customers fault for sure. I did say further down that I wouldn't be buying full size. It is bizarre how we all react differently to various products - my skin was irritated using Dr Dennis Gross. Thanks for your detailed reply which I found interesting- I'm currently using Neostrata without issue. All the best ..
Thank you for all your thorough and hard work and explaining the science behind the products! BTW Your bun looks extra lovely today!
Thanks Caroline. You are always so informative. I started using the de retinol about a month ago and would use it 2x a week with a 3rd in between of Jordan samuels. I figured I had used the JS for awhile and shouldn’t have a problem. I noticed my skin around my temples, close to my eye, was appearing like I had a bad sunburn. And my mint gel cleanser stung. I stopped using it 2x and switched to 1 in between JS. I can’t imagine anyone putting that directly around the eye. I will continue to use up the DE
as long as the current use doesn’t irritate. But then I think I will switch to Rene Rousseau. I really like her products.
Ok, flash the salute to spellcheck. Supposed to say Renée Rouleau!
Technical breakdowns of products are brilliant - thank you for this and for explaining, in depth, what these products really are.
I'm in my late 30's and it just occurred to me that I needed retinol in my skincare regimen, so I'm trying to figure out which product is suitable for me. This video really helped in educating me to invest and knowing the products better and not just following trends. Thank you dear
I love that you're keeping it totally transparent despite the very unfortunate and sad fact that you might get called out by a brand. I'm learning this right now actually, I don't understand how a brand could not appreciate a respectful and constructive feedback from its customers and people who have been working in the industry for years. If anything, receiving it positively could only benefit their image.
As for myself, I have been using the DE retinol for weeks now, and I am still peeling big time. I have never used so little of a product (not my first retinol), with so much of the side effects in return.
I've only been using it twice a week, buffering it when I felt that my skin hadn't recovered from the previous application. Right now, I'm skipping an application to let my skin repair itself and recover from the sensitivity.
What I find strange, is that, despite a very careful application (pea size, avoiding the eye area and any place the skin could "fold" and cause the product to stagnate in one place...) the reaction keeps on being very irregular. I sometimes apply it twice a week with moderate peeling and no sensitivity, but then I might all of a sudden get very sensitized skin that peels like a boiled potato.
I'm not an expert in formulation, but it doesn't "feel" like this one is "stable".
Now as far as warning those who might think this is ok to use on virgin skin, or even one that has only been used to mild retinols: I inadvertently slid my hands from the back of my neck to my clavicles after applying this product. So lightly and unintentionally, that I had to retrace my steps and any product (hair, face, body..) I had used in the past few days to try and understand what was happening.
The back of my neck, the collar area, and the place where it meets my traps (and conviniently folds when you sleep on your side) started becoming red, swollen and ichy as the day went. By the end of the day, it looked like I had had a rope tied and rubbed around my neck on different spots. Full blown burn.
Mind you, this was two days after the application. I've been alternating applications of marula oil, hyaluronic acid and manuka honey to heal the burns and speed up the repairing process, and though it is much better, I'm still at it a week later. Imagine taking THAT around your eyes.
I still can't speak for the results of the product, but it is very irritating, and buffering it is not an option in my opinion, it is mandatory if you want to keep your skin from going through different stages of peeling/inflamation or worse.
I'll keep at it because the potential results(and the money spent honestly) are enough motivation, but I WILL be making sure to buffer it every time. Imagine using a product to take your skin to the next level, only to have it cause more lesions and damage @@.
Love your informed and intelligent approach. Great series. Looking forward to the ordinary edition.
From skincare from the States, I’d love to see some Mad Hippie reviews. Especially their vitamin A and vitamin C.
Just adore what you do!! Thinking about the time when I was 30 and had no chance to learn so much about skin care and products...what a waste...but luckily it's different now and there are experts like you who can share so much knowledge and experience and I can learn So much from you! Thank you!❤️
New sub here from Tara’s channel. Thank you so much for this advice! I think I’ve gone through at least half the products mentioned in your last 3 videos. You’re being knowledgeable not mean or rude.
Excellent video Caroline. Thank you. I've read lots of reviews of DE and it seems to be very harsh. I would love to see a review of Rejuvi and Dr Dennis Gross retinols.
I started using the SR A+ as soon as it dropped into UK shelves - in conjunction with other SR products. I'm a VitA virgin! I've been following their advice, using for two nights with CEO oil, then my regular routine the following two nights, and alternating that way. And have to say, I've had no bad reaction and my skin looks glowing and is very happy. I find that SR gives immediate pay off with most products, and am waiting to hopefully see improvements and changes over time as well with this.........but so far, so good and it's been a great first taste of VitA!.
Bravo! Outstanding job done on this series. Thanks for your hard work!
Thanks so much
I use Drunk Elephant and have for a long time. Going against my better judgement, I buffered a tiny bit of the retinol with the protini AND the C Tango on my entire face/ eyes and the next morning even my eye lids were peeled!!!! I tried using the B Hydra to get moisture and it burned!!!!! You’re doing the right thing, Caroline! Thank you for your recommendations.
Your series on this is phenomenal!! I've learned so much from you, and i thank you! I rely on your honesty and your opinions. I cherish both qualities, and appreciate it! Bravo! I support you 110%
Thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying :)
It would be very on point and precautionary if there was a post-retinol recovery treatment video after all of these skin hassling practices.. Lots of appreciation and gratitude for the series💜😄
So happy you finally featured DE. I bought this product - have had no side effects which makes me believe its not doing the job of a "classic" retinol. I definitely won't be buying this again. I at least expected a little peeling, but was able to start using it daily right away and I have extremely sensitive skin - does not make any sense to me!
BRAVO!! All the videos in this series are great. Please pick up and review SkinMedica Retinol Complex 1.0 when you are stateside. Thanks.
Becky Torres I looove SkinMedica! Their retinol 1.0 has me gloowing! I totally recommend. 👍🏼👍🏼
Paula's Choice is expanding her booster products after recently doing a repackaging of all products.
Excellent, Caroline. I couldn’t agree with you more about DE. I followed their IG and was cringing at the suggestions and advice (they have since backed off a bit) of mixing this retinol EVEN with the TLC glycolic at night. You never use an AHA/BHA together with a retinol (especially 1%). That is a recipe for disaster, and will most definitely disrupt your skin barrier. I don’t know why they would even think to suggest that. I happen to love their BHydra and CFirma, but I got really turned off with this marketing of their APassioni. Thx for your hard work!
Thanks Caroline, I wish this could be standard attitude towards any product of any reviewer on YT: respectful, but honest
Dear Caroline would love to hear your thoughts on the Osmosis brand of vitamin A products, they use retinaldehyde at various strengths and I've been really curious about them!
Thank you for being so honest on your reviews Caroline and for caring about us all. I've used the Drunk Elephant's retinol and found it like an atomic bomb. You get real results but also have to deal with the damage. Lot's of peeling, redness and sensitivity. Keep doing what you do. Love*
Thank you Caroline, for your honesty! Our world needs that!
Totally agree with you Caroline! I love many of their products too but agree with your thoughts completely. It is what it is. Thank you for always sharing your honest opinion and keeping us informed!
Love the "jazz hands" comment!😂😂😂😂 I did not know about the Paula's Choice booster, but I think I will stick with the Paula's Choice retinol. Thank you for more great education. Rock on CH rock star!
The videos are brilliant. This series has been sooo informative and helpful. Thank you so much for all your hard work and honesty.
Happy to help :) Glad you're enjoying!
Caroline... please no need to keep excusing yourself so much... most viewers are here because your advice is an educated one
I’m sat here watching this video after burning my face off by using drunk elephant retinol twice over the space of a week. I had no idea it was so strong and totally agree with what you’re saying.
So glad for your honest review not only in the DE product but with this entire series!!! I do have one question though. Where does Differin fall in this series????
I’ll put it in the strays video /)
Forgive me if you’ve covered this one already, I couldn’t find it in your previous videos, but what’s your opinion of the Dr Dennis Gross Ferulic + Retinol Brightening Solution Serum? Are you able to dermine the amount of retinol?’Thank you for all this advice-soooo helpful!
Somewhere on the instructions for DE it says you can mix with C-firma (daytime) or TLC (night time) I believe. Not a good idea. My face was on fire!
Also don’t put it on your eyes... tried that too, as per their instructions. My eyelids looked and felt like I’d burnt them, were tight and unable to wear make up.
I have used Obagi prescription tret (1%, 0.5% and 0.25%) and obagi non prescription retinol 0.5 and 1%, in the past with no problems. Will try buffering the DE with moisturiser, because I still find it very strong.
B Coffee I have tried the Passioni with the C-Firma and the TLC. But I alternated it at night for a few months. Once my skin got used to it, I started layering all 3 with the Peptides and moisturizer as a buffer. I can only tell my skin is peeling if I put foundation...the good news is I can get away with just my tinted SPF because the formulas work!
I find the marketing in skincare, across the board, often misleading. Not for every brand, I find some (precious few) to be candid and honest and genuinely trying to be unlike what we have seen in the past. And it's not just recently of course, there has been misinformation and marketing outrageous promises since the beginning of advertisement. Yet, what I have a problem with even more is that the newer 'indie' 'clean' brands are so smug about their product and yet employ the same kind of acrobats that the old brands have done just in different formats such as Instagram and social media. It's hypocrisy. I'm not saying Drunk Elephant does not have great skin care, but I find myself being turned off by their message here and there. This goes for a few others I have seen as well. Thank you for calling brands out on that. Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
You are...... HILARIOUS! And incredibly helpful! Seriously- I absolutely love your videos and your advice is priceless! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Thanks so much!
Thank you so much for this series... I can see how much work you have put into it, and it truly is appreciated 😊
As you asked, I would love to hear you're opinion on the American brand Poppy Austin. I use their retinol cream (marketed at 2.5%) and love it. They also have a retinol serum, same %, which I haven't tried... yet!
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Great video and great series Caroline! Just one bit of constructive feedback - I find your videos a bit overexposed and it's hard to see the products sometimes.