Thanks for calling out your own mistakes in such a cheerful way - it really normalises for me that mistakes happen even when you 'know' better but that's fine and all part of the game and nothing to tilt about, but still something to keep in mind for next time. This is a mindset i want to adopt but it's really hard sometimes to get out of the "omfg obviously they'd have a ward there im such an idiot" trench
@@anam9482 Applying as much theory from this channel as possible while focusing on heroes I was good at and enjoyed playing. I climbed with omni and tree as 5
Was playing around with blood grenade earlier with skywrath Poor clinkz was running with 150-200 ms after concussive shot and blood grenade lol Definitely utilize that item a lot especially before people buy boots
Thanks for the good tips, helping me to solve the struggles to win the lane and always under xp as support. Your video have impacts of my games since i climb from guardian to legends ❤
I've actually gained 1k more as a support. Seems like the 4 can build into a core a lot of games. And the portal makes ganks smooth, can tp right ba k to lane.
thank you so much for sharing this, it help me to understand this new patch strategy as support.I have left the herald bracket and struggling at Crusader bracket now. im notice this new patch, there some OP late hero which mean as support player need to counter before minute 30.
I've found even if I'm not sure I'll have a good kill opportunity but I'm feeling a bit weak in lane, buying 2-3 just for a health bump and then yeeting them later in a team fight is really handy
@@CommonConnoisseurs the hp is very handy in lane. Even though you'll need more hp that it gives to throw a grenade, if it ensures a kill, it is worth every resources spent.
hey, could u make a video ranking best to worst heroes to cs first creep wave with? u could rank the heroes with their starting base dmg, atk speed, base attack time and stuff that makes a hero easy or hard to last hit with at lvl 1?
Is denying to neutrals really that good of a play? I suppose if we're tapped out of mana as well, sure, but the increased respawn time always makes me think that I could be spending those 30 seconds of downtime soaking a bit of xp or stacking or something, and spend a bit of cash to regen instead without putting a tp on cooldown. It probably is better to deny yourself but my instincts are fighting me on it and its hard to get over.
As a 2k mmr player. Nothing irks me more then playing axe and having my team flame me for not fighting or ganking before my blink dagger. 80% of the time it's best case a waste of time worse case a feed.
@@HallsteinI Also sniper, Bane, BH and Winter Wyvern during her Q. Actually, luna gets hers only from passive. So base 800 at lvl1. I think lycan gets 1800 during ult as well...
I have a problem. I "stun or throw a spell" during the first minutes and the hard carry keeps farming instead making the kill with me. In low mmr they prefer to farm instead of having an early game situation. I'm so frustrated. Anyways, thanks sooo much for the support. ❤
Even if you don't get kills, just getting a good trade will be strong if your carries aren't joining the fights. Winning the lane is going to be more about getting gold and XP through farm when you have more passive carries. The benefit is that the enemy are also less likely to coordinate, so you can roam without as much worry about them 2v1 killing your carry
I had similar troubles since I barely use the mic but I found using chat wheel and pings works just fine, ping the target enemy 3 times and spam the chat wheel 'I'm coming to gank', 'Get ready' and 'Attack Now!', if you show carries a potential kill they will 99% of the time take it. These last 2 patches have been BIG for early support plays.
That does happen sometimes but I grew a lot as a support when I started to play core and realized that sometimes a support aggressively trying to get kills in lane can be a grief to my game especially before certain levels or items. Also try not to cope when you get caught out or make a bad play by blaming your core. It only makes them trust you even less and doesn't help you learn from mistakes.
@@zacharyhockett6248 yeah as some carry heroes going for kills before you have the power to actually get the kill will just fuck up your farm. Just inform your support that they should fight after the wave is dead. Or when you are like lvl 3 or something like that. Or if they can harras and the oponent is below like 50 % then you will join
tranquil boots should also require a ring of protection and give bonus armor when hit to offset the garbage feeling when you get tapped and lose movespeed and regen
I think it helps way more , if you cut specific cuts in the video like what youre doing and explain the impact on how it results in the game itself. Tbh , I'll die out in a 20 min lecture :/
Played pos 5, this mid Mirana came over to gank, we killed both of them with me literally stopping my last hit so I don't get the kill (he gets a double kill), I give Mirana a ward to place mid and use my clarity pot on him, dude turns around and starts killing off a whole wave of creeps while I'm a lvl 4 Jakiro. I tell him to stop cause I need XP, dude gets mad, griefs the game. Welcome to Dota 2. Suka fucking blyat.
aint finna happen in low bracket cuz every1 has 0 fundamentals and justs autopilot clicking neutrals afk farming. play carry until ancient 5 then things like in this video have a higher chance of working.
Thanks for calling out your own mistakes in such a cheerful way - it really normalises for me that mistakes happen even when you 'know' better but that's fine and all part of the game and nothing to tilt about, but still something to keep in mind for next time. This is a mindset i want to adopt but it's really hard sometimes to get out of the "omfg obviously they'd have a ward there im such an idiot" trench
I’m support main and I finally reached legend. Thank you so much for the awesome vids!
Congratulations!
How? I've been playing only support for more than a month now and still stuck in guardian! 😭
@@anam9482 Applying as much theory from this channel as possible while focusing on heroes I was good at and enjoyed playing. I climbed with omni and tree as 5
@@anam9482 better you make new account, and its ez to gain rank
@@anam9482 dude just try to jave fun and you will much more instead of hard rying
Was playing around with blood grenade earlier with skywrath
Poor clinkz was running with 150-200 ms after concussive shot and blood grenade lol
Definitely utilize that item a lot especially before people buy boots
Thanks for the good tips, helping me to solve the struggles to win the lane and always under xp as support.
Your video have impacts of my games since i climb from guardian to legends ❤
As a support player, it feels like my stars have to align to get a winning game this patch.
I've actually gained 1k more as a support. Seems like the 4 can build into a core a lot of games. And the portal makes ganks smooth, can tp right ba k to lane.
Yeah I love supporting this patch
This patch has been so much better for support players imo. I've never had this fun as support and had as much as impact
Same enemy team will stupidly pick four cores but still win cause all games go 35+ min due to lack of communication
Don't worry I lost about 1.5k mmr lol. Climbing back up
thank you so much for sharing this, it help me to understand this new patch strategy as support.I have left the herald bracket and struggling at Crusader bracket now. im notice this new patch, there some OP late hero which mean as support player need to counter before minute 30.
This video is insanely helpful. Thank you for explaining your thought process.
Very informative and helpful video as always, ZQ. Very catJAM!
Blood freaking Grenades. Always get 2 of those as starting items.
I've found even if I'm not sure I'll have a good kill opportunity but I'm feeling a bit weak in lane, buying 2-3 just for a health bump and then yeeting them later in a team fight is really handy
I hadn't considering getting 2, that seems really smart to me now
@@Indestructibear indeed. You can always go for a first blood with this + another good slow.
@@CommonConnoisseurs the hp is very handy in lane. Even though you'll need more hp that it gives to throw a grenade, if it ensures a kill, it is worth every resources spent.
Pavise is so insanely good.
Love your videos 🤜 appreciate you highlighting the mistakes you make too 👌
Probably one of your better videos. Keep em coming!
you are changing the game bro I love you sm
Could you share the replay number to rewatch some parts of your gameplay in the game-client?
I try to call BRB when i need to do support stuff so my lanemate hopefully acts safe.
hey, could u make a video ranking best to worst heroes to cs first creep wave with? u could rank the heroes with their starting base dmg, atk speed, base attack time and stuff that makes a hero easy or hard to last hit with at lvl 1?
Coaching and replay review when and how much if I want? 🤔
Im stuck on ancient 2 as a support main, all my laning phase lost
Yea how can you win as a support when your safe lane void goes moonshard first item and battlefury 2nd item.
Support is my fav position 👍👍
you and me were unstopable -herald guy
Great vid. Thanks.
I am so pissed off at my 4s arriving 15 seconds past creeps meeting
Like thanks mate, way to go
Is denying to neutrals really that good of a play? I suppose if we're tapped out of mana as well, sure, but the increased respawn time always makes me think that I could be spending those 30 seconds of downtime soaking a bit of xp or stacking or something, and spend a bit of cash to regen instead without putting a tp on cooldown. It probably is better to deny yourself but my instincts are fighting me on it and its hard to get over.
Subbed. Great channel
Why you don't block hard camp? I'm always doing it on my 5k :)
I'm always forgetting pull times and to body block so I'm trying to make myself do it more by not blocking the enemy camps
How do you do the blue theme of your hud?
Colorblind mode!
WTF HOW DID I JUST LEARN YOU EXIST?
As a 2k mmr player. Nothing irks me more then playing axe and having my team flame me for not fighting or ganking before my blink dagger. 80% of the time it's best case a waste of time worse case a feed.
huh i didn't know slark has more night vision. more knowledge i guess
Luna, NS and Slark have better night vision
@@HallsteinI Also sniper, Bane, BH and Winter Wyvern during her Q. Actually, luna gets hers only from passive. So base 800 at lvl1. I think lycan gets 1800 during ult as well...
I have a problem. I "stun or throw a spell" during the first minutes and the hard carry keeps farming instead making the kill with me. In low mmr they prefer to farm instead of having an early game situation. I'm so frustrated. Anyways, thanks sooo much for the support. ❤
Even if you don't get kills, just getting a good trade will be strong if your carries aren't joining the fights. Winning the lane is going to be more about getting gold and XP through farm when you have more passive carries. The benefit is that the enemy are also less likely to coordinate, so you can roam without as much worry about them 2v1 killing your carry
If you arent using mic try pinging your ability/pinging the person you are planning to go on. Won't always work but definitely helps
I had similar troubles since I barely use the mic but I found using chat wheel and pings works just fine, ping the target enemy 3 times and spam the chat wheel 'I'm coming to gank', 'Get ready' and 'Attack Now!', if you show carries a potential kill they will 99% of the time take it. These last 2 patches have been BIG for early support plays.
That does happen sometimes but I grew a lot as a support when I started to play core and realized that sometimes a support aggressively trying to get kills in lane can be a grief to my game especially before certain levels or items.
Also try not to cope when you get caught out or make a bad play by blaming your core. It only makes them trust you even less and doesn't help you learn from mistakes.
@@zacharyhockett6248 yeah as some carry heroes going for kills before you have the power to actually get the kill will just fuck up your farm. Just inform your support that they should fight after the wave is dead. Or when you are like lvl 3 or something like that. Or if they can harras and the oponent is below like 50 % then you will join
great lecture
the line at 8:04 lol
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tranquil boots should also require a ring of protection and give bonus armor when hit to offset the garbage feeling when you get tapped and lose movespeed and regen
I think it helps way more , if you cut specific cuts in the video like what youre doing and explain the impact on how it results in the game itself. Tbh , I'll die out in a 20 min lecture :/
You need better attention span, bro
Played pos 5, this mid Mirana came over to gank, we killed both of them with me literally stopping my last hit so I don't get the kill (he gets a double kill), I give Mirana a ward to place mid and use my clarity pot on him, dude turns around and starts killing off a whole wave of creeps while I'm a lvl 4 Jakiro. I tell him to stop cause I need XP, dude gets mad, griefs the game.
Welcome to Dota 2. Suka fucking blyat.
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Hello friends and welcome😂
04:46 I WANT TO DIE
Hey bro @ZQuixotix will you be casting in TI12?
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aint finna happen in low bracket cuz every1 has 0 fundamentals and justs autopilot clicking neutrals afk farming. play carry until ancient 5 then things like in this video have a higher chance of working.
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No amount of supporting can get you out from herald trenchole if you are weak-minded indvidual 😂