How Toy Story 4 Destroyed Everything - Part 1 | Prologue, Jessie Assassination & Kindergarten Scene
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Toy Story is a franchise more intrinsically linked to my heart than any other piece of art on this planet, and Toy Story 4 mercilessly eviscerated everything about it that I loved from plot, to characters, to themes and messaging.
And now, after years of teasing, it's finally time for me to explain why.
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:53 - Opening Logo & Music Choice
04:19 - The Nine Years Ago Flashback
05:14 - RC's In Trouble
06:35 - Bo Peep and the Topic of Gaslighting
11:35 - Operation Pull Toy (Opening the Window)
15:59 - Operation Pull Toy (Rescuing RC)
26:10 - Getting Back Inside the House
29:52 - Bo's Donation
30:58 - The Box Scene
33:18 - Woody Almost Leaves Andy
39:50 - You've Got a Friend in Me & Andy's New Design
43:55 - Bonnie's Name on Woody's Boot
46:47 - Jessie's Character Assasination
54:53 - Woody and Buzz's Emotional Constipation
56:36 - Bonnie Gives Jessie the Sheriff's Badge
59:33 - Dust Bunnies, The Closet Toys, & Mourning the Loss of Peas-in-a-Pod & Totoro
1:01:52 - "Don't Move! Bonnie will be back soon!"
1:02:59 - What Happened to Dolly?
1:08:40 - The Kindergarten Scene
1:17:06 - Outro
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Toy Story 4 is a 2019 American computer-animated comedy film produced by Pixar Animation Studios and released by Walt Disney Pictures. It is the fourth and final installment in Pixar's Toy Story series and the sequel to Toy Story 3 (2010). It was directed by Josh Cooley (in his feature directorial debut) from a screenplay by Andrew Stanton and Stephany Folsom; the three also conceived the story alongside John Lasseter, Rashida Jones, Will McCormack, Valerie LaPointe, and Martin Hynes. Tom Hanks, Tim Allen, Annie Potts, Joan Cusack, Don Rickles (via archive recordings), Wallace Shawn, John Ratzenberger, Estelle Harris, Jeff Pidgeon, Bonnie Hunt, Jeff Garlin, Kristen Schaal and Timothy Dalton reprise their character roles from the first three films. Blake Clark, who replaced the late Jim Varney in Toy Story 3, returns. They are joined by Tony Hale, Keegan-Michael Key, Jordan Peele, Christina Hendricks, Keanu Reeves, and Ally Maki, who voice the new characters introduced in this film.
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Oh my I didnt get too see this one I saw the first 3 is it really this bad?
Yes, yes it is. And this first episode covers the _least_ amount of terrible things about the movie; it only gets worse from here on out.
@@GamingMagic13 dear lord
@@Youfrbray Facts☠️
No, this is just nitpicking. He could totally make a regular negative review. This is ridiculous
I'd say the movie is bad, but this guy is making an awful lot of mountains out of molehills... Which I suppose is fine, it's his opinion after all, I just have to wonder how he's capable of enjoying any movie if he's so deadset on scrutinizing every minute detail in this one. Hell, the first three Toy Story movies had their share of problems and continuity errors, yet he calls them all of them "glorious".
Toy story 3= "we are a family, we have to stay together"
Toy story 4 = " I found a gf, bye"
No not a gf
A crush
@@popstarprincess123 who's a completely different character from the first two movies when they were originally an item.
Woody really said hoes before bros
@@catscanhavelittleasalami He put booty before duty
Lowkey what happened with us and one if our friends
When Toy Story 4 was first announced, my response was just "...why?" and I opted to skip it and not even count it because Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending. I'm so glad I stuck with that choice.
Good that you held out. I had the same attitude until a video I watched used the film's ending to make a broader point about endings in Disney movies as of late, and a Disney+ free trial fell into my lap.
Same. I liked the movie in itself but I refuse to accept it as part of the overall series and see it more as an alternate universe kinda thing. 3rd movie is the real ending and always will be.
Would've been my choice to
However, I only have so much choice when I get out voted on family night 🤷♂️
I was just extremely alienated on it's inception alone, especially since even as a kid, I knew TS3 was the perfect ending
Same reason why I still never watched Ralph Breaks the Internet. Wreck It Ralph was literally one of my favorite Disney films growing up and it’s just the kind of concept that makes it hard to make a sequel out of. It’s also perfect the way it ended. But of course Disney wants that money and put their advertising all over the sequel and just included the same characters with different personalities.
Toy story: the perfect classic
Toy story 2: the perfect sequel
Toy story 3: the perfect ending
Toy story 4: the perfect disaster
Agreed
You story 5 was just announced. So stupid, should’ve stopped at 3.
Lightyear: The perfect spin-off
@@carlosmattessich3883 Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is the perfect spinoff. Lightyear isn’t as good.
@@judebaun9993 Ok then
Bo Peep bring a porcelain lamp was so significant to her character and her role. More passive, detached from the play-orientated world of the toys in general, yet possessing a -- shall we say -- *luminous* quality, a unique relationship with Woody in part due to her distance, and a guide where needed. Having her be active and energetic and familiar rather than somewhat ethereal destroys what's foundational about her as a character in the ensemble.
I actually don’t mind Bo Peep being more active. It’s what I wanted her to be in the first film. Well… okay, not all action girl and climbing and swinging around on her shepherd’s staff, but what I mean is more involved during the significant events in the first film like taking more part in the toys’ lives like being a part of the staff meeting, communicating more with Buzz during the Strange Things sequence and actually defending her boyfriend when Potato Head, I mean, MR. Potato Head, (lol see what I did there? 😉), accuses him of intentionally knocking Buzz out the window and “murdering” him. I think making her more active in Woody’s life gives her more presence in the story than just being his girlfriend and on the side and doesn’t destroy her character foundation. Plus, if she could calm Woody down with reminding him of how Andy still loves him, then she could have used that same method to help calm the other toys down when they started freaking out over the news of Andy’s birthday being moved a week early and about the possibility of being replaced by new toys during the staff meeting in the first film. I’m sure it’s not just Woody that needs her advice, but Andy’s other toys as well.
@@hunterolaughlin If they wanted to have her be in action scenes, make it so that she figured out a way to break her porcelain dress off without harming herself. She still has her crook, which has the potential to be a very useful tool.
@@everlastingdragon4520 That’s not exactly what I meant when I said I wanted Bo Peep featured in more scenes in the first film.
@@hunterolaughlin Sorry 'bout that. Just pointed out how the writers of TS4 could have worked around the fact that Bo is made of porcelain (and didn't even try).
@@hunterolaughlin Toy story 4 is the best
"Characters get either extremely lucky or extremely unlucky depending on what the plot requires"
This sums up modern pixar pretty well
Could you elaborate more on that ? Im not dismissing just asking
They also seem to try really hard to be "deep"
@@alexanderackerman3807 What does that have to do with anything
@@alexanderackerman3807 they've always done this
@@isavenewspapers8890 they try to make you emotional just for them to have good reviews. This movie FAILS after a big analysis of the film. People are just defending this movie due to nostalgia to the franchise.
On the topic of Andy's house suddenly having a driveway on the left side... In Kingdom Hearts 3, you can travel to the Toy Story world and run around the area outside Andy's house and guess what, there is no driveway on the left. Disney is VERY specific about how their worlds in the KH universe are designed, so it's very interesting how they let that slip by in the official final installment of this IP.
That was the driveway for Andy's old house in Toy Story 1 that we saw in that scene. It looks like the Toy Story 4 crew couldn't be bothered to make the distinction between Andy's old and new house, and thus, double driveway. So it looks like it's just that the caliber of the people writing/directing Toy Story 4 is lesser than that of the guys behind Kingdom Hearts. Which is a little odd; one might expect that to Disney, movie > video game and should thus have a corresponding level of quality...
@@BionBios that would make sense except one thing...
This scene takes place after the events of the 1st movie because of 2 things:
1. Bo Peep is sold off after this scene meaning this happens after the 2nd movie where they already live in their new house from the end of the 1st movie.
2. Jesse and Bullseye are already a part of the crew, leading back to my first point that this takes place after the 2nd movie.
Edit: nevermind I read the rest of your comment
They did that because Toy Story 4 isn't apart of the same universe as 1-3.
That’s post Bo peep going away, idiot who’s dumb and dumber.
@@coltgun876 toy story 4 didnt detroy everything
I remember when this movie came out and I was flabbergasted by just how much I hated it. After going online afterwards, I saw people arguing about the intended message, but the one that stuck out to me the most was this, “If the first 3 movies were about family and sticking together, and in this one, Woody just drops everyone to be with Bo, does that mean romantic love is worth more than the love of your family?”
I couldn’t say I disagreed because that’s how the movie presents it. No toy left behind, sticking together, friendship, family-all of it is just forgotten in an instant when Bo is involved. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.
It's a symptom of a deep societal illness. Sexual desire and romantic love are overtaken all human relationships in western culture. Friendship, family, and even parental love is being overriden by a new generation of artists who are obsessed with sex to the exclusion of all else. They dont understand friendship because they lack real friends. They dont understand family because they lack their own. All they have is a teenager's understanding of romantic love.
And the fact that bo didn't even consider going with him was even worse.
hate to break it to you but that is how it happens in the real world eventually woody has to leave his family and go enjoy his life away from them. if you hate that then fine but if he leaves his family it doesn't mean he'll never see them again
@@a_little_flame589 Only sometimes. Most people end up coming home. They go have their adventure in a far off city (often in the form of college, but not always) and then they return home around ~30 years old (give or take five years).
Friends are nice, but great ones are hard to find. Family is forever. Your children belong to your family as much as you do. A family is all in it together. Their genetic futures are tied together.
Besides, Woody is ancient by the time this happens. This is like a father leaving his wife and child to join the circus with his highschool sweetheart. Not great behaviour and destined to end in heartbreak for everyone involved.
@@trequor okay so as far as i know woodie is just kinda with andy I mean he never really mentions anyone else so that just means woodie is in like his 20s but also don't try with that family is forever bs yes most people tend to visit their family which we have no reason to believe woodie won't do but also no many families split for any number of reasons
My nitpick with Toy Story 4 is so precise. These characters no longer feel like TOYS. And I can pinpoint the exact moment as when Bonnies dad steps on Woody and minutes later he just blows his head back up. It’s cartoony, but not what these characters are. When Buzz fell in TS1, he broke. Woody ripped his arm and it was a whole thing. It just deflated the whole situation.
Also Forky sucks. End of discussion
I had a Woody toy growing up and I would make funny faces by pushing the plastic (Or whatever it was made out of) in all the time. How the heck is Woody being able to get his head back into shape not toy like?!
@@mystman1210 to be fair I think if I did that to the pretty authentic one I have, the head would probably shatter. It probably is plastic but it would never go back to its original shape.
@@peterreed9817 Y'know that is true. The one I had growing up is new and made out of modern plastics. Woody being from the 50's... Honestly with how much he's been through he should be crumbling by now haha.
@@mystman1210 I know this is unrelated, but hi Mystman
What do you expect, hes literally garbage
8 minutes in and I agree with her character being completely changed, but I would just like to add that she was not just made to be a love interest to Woody; she was the one put in charge of herding the other toys and being the most level-headed of them, the mother figure and the caretaker of the rest of the toys whenever Woody wasn't present. She was also the one that delivered the thesis of Toy Story 2 right in the introduction: "[Andy] will take you to camp with or without your hat" meaning Andy loves Woody whether he is damaged or has missing parts or not. Woody had to spend the entire movie trying to accept THAT message from Bo Peep, to trade preservation while standing still in a museum for Andy despite the damage and hardships that might entail. And the writers for 4 absolutely forgot about that... If Bo Peep were present in their rescue mission, I have confidence that her and Jessie will get along because of her wisdom.
She was just made to be a love interest it’s ok accept it
Yeah, she seemed a lot wiser and more patient with people in other Toy Story movies.
@@djyua9157 simp show simp show
@@djyua9157 I know, but in the end product, she was much more than that. She delivered the thesis of the entire Toy Story 2 film even while being a love interest, so my point is, her role was not only fulfilled but she transcended beyond that which increases her value as a character MORE than just eye candy love interest.
@@mariacillan9668 you’re right
Don't you just love when at times unnecessary sequels trample over the established themes, characters and overall message of an overarching story you love? Definitely haven't seen that before.
Oh it’s my favorite thing about modern storytelling.
Hey, TLJ didn’t have any of that. You need to be more flexible.
The hell does TLJ have anything to do with Toy Story 4? When did I ever mention the Star Wars movies?
@@GamingMagic13 I was talking to the other guy.
@@dvader518 I see; my mistake then.
35:50 This!! Exactly this! I've been telling everyone that the thing that makes Toy Story 3's ending hit so hard for me is the fact that in the end, Woody ultimately leaves the decision to Andy. By going inside that box, he surrenders his decision to Andy on whether he will stay or go with him. And if Andy had chosen to keep him, i can guarantee that he would've stayed with Andy
OMG SAME I WAS SO ANGRY AT THAT LITTLE GIRL 24/7 Through out repeating the movie, even my gf told me that she's just a kid! No! She's an irresponsible little brat!
Honestly, Woody should've go with him to college. Like if andy had a kid he would give it to them..
In Toy Story 2, if it weren't for the rescue party led by Buzz to go and fetch him, Woody would have been fine with staying with the Roundup Gang and becoming a museal piece in Japan.
This is not out of character.
Woody having selfish facets to his character was clearly shown before.
Hypercritical boloney.
@@CottageGurl I'm pretty sure Bonnie would just give it to his kid.
I agree, i also maintain woody going inside the box was his way of wanting to stay with his friends since earlier he apologized for splitting up because they're a family and they stick together
You know Jessie was well written and explored originally when I an adult who hasn't seen Toy Story 2 in years started tearing up at being reminded of that fucking montage
I only diagree with you on your point about Jessie.
As someone with PTSD, one act of bravery or "pushing through your fears" doesn't mean you'll never get triggered again, or that your trauma is gone entirely. I don't think Jessie could ever fully "move on" from it, and despite The Time Forgot, she may have just been triggered in that specific moment in TS4, but I also don't think that means her progress has completely backslid. Her act of bravery in The Time Forgot is significant, but I don't think TS4 means a step backwards for her trauma & character growth.
That's not how written character development works, if the shorts are canon, which they are, then it was the perfect driving force to development on forward, that's why it makes no sense for the movie to pedal back the way they did among other things that pedals back characters
The short with jessie's development is toy story of terror not "the time forgot"
I think you meant "Of Terror" not "That Time Forgot"
I think you meant toy story of terror
I know you meant Toy Story Of Terror
Makes me want to just call the toy story shorts the real toy story 4
I accept that.
That's what I did.
Correct✅✔☑
tell me about it. the shorts & the tv specials after 3 were awesome but a fourth movie ruined it. the last shot of 3 was the clouds in the sky & thats how the first one all started. it was the perfect finale
Yup
Okay I love this video, but I’m just going to defend the kindergarten teacher really quickly. I was a preschool teacher for a year. It was hectic. There were always 5+ kids constantly needing my attention at the same time, not to mention you have to keep your eyes on another 20. If a parent was in the room, my boss expected me to devote my attention to them 100% because they were the parents and they were the people we had to impress. It broke my heart that I didn’t have enough time and energy to devote to all of my students. A quick comment to a kid might be all I was allowed before a parent came in dropping off another kid and I then had to greet that parent and make sure the parent was satisfied. The kids always came second to the parents; it was the #1 rule. So, in this scenario, seeing as how there are multiple parents dropping off kids in this scene, I think we should give the teacher a bit of a break because she might be contractually obligated to tend to parents’ needs first and the kids’ second. Now, she definitely should have made sure Bonnie was sitting with kids when the school day started, but I’m just going to say that a first day of school is agonizingly nerve wracking for a preschool/kindergarten teacher. She’s got a lot going on.
I absolutely adore this video… I wish that all movie reviews were this detailed. I just wanted to clear the air about teachers because she is absolutely not the worst teacher on the planet… she’s just doing her best.
Also, Steve is totally a kid I’ve encountered MANY times. And the spork very well could have been in the trash can because teachers at my preschool would sometimes eat breakfast in the classroom before the students got there. Trash cans fill up FAST in a classroom, so even 5 minutes in this kinda makes sense
I took Woody to college once and all my friends understand that I feel safe when he’s there. That was only one day and I didn’t lose him
Plus, a kid being nervous/sad on the first day of school is common. I was that kid. And I got over it after a couple days without the teacher’s help. Sometimes kids just gotta learn how to work through emotions on their own without someone to immediately come running armed with hugs and kisses.
Also, kudos to you. At my school there was a teacher + an aide for the preschool/kindergarten classes but now that I’m older (and have seen how much trouble my two toddler cousins can get into in, like, 5 seconds of no supervision) I feel like you guys need a small army of adults just to keep the kids from running rampant.
@@KlutzyNinjaKitty So true! It was especially hard with the pandemic... I had 44 kids on my roster (at least 40 of them showed up each morning) and I only had one other teacher in there with me because half of the teachers in the preschool quit over the pandemic. We DEFINITELY need an army of teachers! :)
Jessie's claustrophobia was a result of being kept in storage by Al. In TS2 she says "I can't do storage again, I just can't!", and I remember how hard that hit me as a kid. I imagined her laying in that dark case, trapped between two pieces of foam with a cutout the size of her body and not a millimeter of wiggle room, and imagined how long she might've been kept in there, suffocating but unable to die because she's a toy. THAT is what she is thinking about when she hesitates to jump in the box, and why she had to be reassured that she would be coming out again.
I never saw the Toy Story of Terror special, but from what I saw of it here in your video, I don't think she defeated her claustrophobia forever; she just overcame it in that moment. There moral wasn't "Don't be afraid"; it was "Don't let fear stop you". Those are two very different morals, as the latter is achievable, and the former is usually not. You're going to be afraid in some situations, and that's okay. It doesn't matter IF you're scared, it only matters what you DO when you're scared. And Jessie should be celebrated for acting courageously when confronted with her greatest fear.
That's why I think Jessie panicing in the closet in TS4 is correct. She has that trauma forever, and not every situation calls for her to triumphantly push through her anxiety.
By the way, I also hated TS4 with a burning passion! But this is one point I disagree with you on. And like you, I enjoy over-analysing things like this. Hence, this comment, lol
I relate to Toy Story of Terror Jessie because I was really struggling with the Queens death until I immediately thought about my 2009 Woody, Mummy and Woody.EXE because I knew family came first and those 3 are my family! They helped me through the funeral and no wonder I got over it so quick
Oh you said what I was thinking. Thank you. I really think her phobia levels of anxiety and fear is very justified. Jessie is better about it but she should still struggle.
Nobody ever really overcomes fear. There's always the possibility of a relapse
I liked how TS4 continued the trend of being based on periods of a person's life.
1 was about how life isn't fair and the realization that you'll never meet the unrealistic expectations you set for yourself, but that's ok because the relationships you build are what truly matters
2 is about going through a midlife crisis
3 is about letting go of your children as they grow up and take their own path
4 is about retirement
Sadly 4 went about delivering its themes in the worst way possible while neglecting and ruining the characters we grew up with. Big disappointment
ts4 continued the trend of diversity, "strong and independent woman", and wokeness
Everything you said about 4 is wrong.
@@korrblank1361 no. Stop trying to defend this film without reason
@@Blox117 toy story 4 was the perfect ending
@@korrblank1361 toy story 4 was the perfect ending
Wow the Jessie segment reminded me of how good she was as a character.
Yeah Jessie, Woody, and Buzz are my favorite character, but Toy Story 4 decided to completely wrecked or assassinated these three main loved characters unacceptable.
@@unstrungbeauty7208
Now my sisters Woody is like how they were by helping me out when I needed it, I nearly fell off the bed once and Woody saved my life and his strength surprised me
Same thing happened with Sonic the Hedgehog in the 2010's. Pontac and Graff ruined everyone. Sonic became an annoying jokester. Tails became a useless sidekick. Knuckles became a buff idiot. Shadow became an edgelord. The list goes on and on.
This, the missed potential and terrible stories are the reasons why I'm not a fan of the meta era Sonic games (looking at you, Sonic Generations and Forces).
Frankly the only thing I can praise about this movie is the visual effects, NOTHING MORE. The water effect at the RC rescue scene, gorgeous!
The only other thing I enjoyed is the voice acting. Even in a disaster of a film like this, the voice actors still did their hardest
@@zavadi0 toy story 4 is good it didnt detroy everything
@@mrbinklesgames6620stop
@@bengilhooly3616 am trying to change everyones minds that toy stody 4 is funny
@@mrbinklesgames6620 you will never succeed.
Bo accepting she was going without saying goodbye isnt that big of a deal because she knows she is a toy and toys dont always get a chance to say goodbye. Her trying to get Woody to go with her was not something she would do. She knows how much Woody cares for Andy, and she knows how much Woody means to Andy!
My sister allowed her Woody to go with me 5 years ago because Woody realised she was growing up and she knew I’d be great with him. Every time my sister looks at Woody again he just hugs me and looks away
That’s not really true, woody and Bo have feelings for each other.
@@korrblank1361 Bo: Woody, look under your boot.
Woody: Don't be silly, my hat is not under my boot.
Bo: Would you just look?
Woody: *scoffs and looks under boot* See? No hat. Just the word "Andy".
Bo: Uh-huh. And the boy who wrote that would take you to camp with or without your hat.
@@korrblank1361so? She still understands he’s Andy’s toy. She would never try to break them apart. Stop trying to defend this movie
@@bengilhooly3616 There should have been at least one more scene before Bo was Sold, it is precisely to give Woody and Bo's relationship more development, because after the first movie Bo matured, and after the second movie once Woody was back in Andy's house, he matured. And in those three to four years that they spent within the fiction of the story, their relationship matured more and more. To the point that when Buzz asks Slinky where Woody is, he is inviting them to look at the yard as if he had partly understood the reason why Woody ran so quickly there, they would even have understood if he hadn't come back. to leave in the box along with Bo. But finally Woody didn't go with Bo at that moment, because he had Andy, he had a child who was waiting for him and needed him, he had a life purpose to fulfill.
8:30 I can agree with this and disagree. In the first 2 movies Bo is shown being a gentle source of wisdom for Woody, while also showing some initiative when it comes to rescue (Using the monkey chain, telling that buff toy to pull the lever to help Buzz and Woody). It wasn’t super often but it was often enough whenever she was on screen.
I will agree though that she was definitely not the organized tactician shown at the beginning of 4. It would’ve been better if they showed her being a bit more gentle and passive so that her change later on would be more sudden. It would’ve been an acknowledgement of how drastic her change really was
I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more...
😞
When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character"
Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.
it would’ve been so smart if they had bo peep watch the gang try to rescue RV in the beginning, and even try to help out with the rescue, and have the other toys be like “nah we got this”. then, have that inspire her to change into the head strong character she is in toy story 4
Imma also say this...Bo Peep would NEVER have Woody abandon Andy. If anything, she would tell him to STAY with Andy and try to move on, as Andy would likely straight up be devastated knowing he lost one of his favorite toys!!!
So I totally agree with you, Feather!
@@ipuffpixiedust That would've been great for her character arc!
@Feather Light If at the beginning of the movie, she had jumped together with Woody to rescue Rc, it would have been too wrong. However, the detail of adjusting Woody's hat and then smiling at him in a sign of encouragement and then supporting him from the window, is exactly what she would do at that moment. What happens is that in that same sequence you hear how a sergeant directing the Barbies and the other toys to accomplish the mission can be justified because time really passed from the end of Toy Story 2 to the beginning of that scene inside the history fiction; and so it makes sense that she is the leader of Molly's room since from the first movie she was in her lamp next to the baby's crib. And in Toy Story 2 she was in charge of inspecting in Molly's room, that Woody's hat was not there.
I never really understood how people felt when talking about how the Star Wars Sequels. "It ruined my childhood!" "can't watch the originals anymore". While I like Star Wars, I didn't grow up with it and the idea of someone's childhood being "ruined" sounded like an over exaggeration. After leaving the theatre of Toy Story 4 I finally knew what people meant by that. It hurts watching older films and hearing them say "for infinity and beyond". Things just feel a little more hollow now. While I can't say it's "ruined" it is very sad knowing how butchered everything is. The seconded I got home I looked on the internet to try and find bad reviews. All I found was the film was the film being praised to the moon and back. I am so glad this review is 5 parts. I've needed something like this.
Serious question here. Does anyone actually say "It ruined my childhood?"
The only time I've ever heard that is in strawman arguments. At best, I've seen people say "It ruined something I loved during my childhood."
I remember leaving the theatre with my friend and saying "That felt like an excuse to separate Woody from the gang for a Disney+ spin-off where they'd only have to pay one big-name actor instead of a full cast."
It's sad to see something that was not just popular, but a milestone in the medium studied in schools being turned into something so soulless and transparent in its intentions to milk the fans of their money. But, what hurts the most is feeling like you're not allowed to be upset or complain about it because you might hurt the feelings of the creators.
If the creators didn't care about the fans' feelings or went out of their way to intentionally piss them off, the fans should have every right to be angry and post their mean comments. Claiming that doing so is them being 'entitled manbabies' is, ironically, them being the most entitled, arrogant, hateful, and self-righteous in the situation.
Woke subversionism doesn't really hit you until it hits YOU. It's easier to dismiss when it happens to other people.
Now you understand our pain.
@@qty1315 When people do say it, it's not meant to be taken literally. It just means that it ruined a childhood series, not their literal childhood.
For me personally, I first encountered the phrase “my childhood was ruined” in the comments of _Family Guy_ cutaways, particularly those involving classic children’s characters like Winnie the Pooh, so I assumed that people just said it in jest.
11:57 my man's actually legit offended to the core, borderline disgusted at Woody not knowing the sheep's name 🤣
The video of the hatred of Toy Story 4 is more interesting than the actual movie
Thank you for harping on about Bo Peep's dress! No one else has ever pointed it out but me, and it's been bugging the hell out of me. She's always been a porcelain doll lamp thing. I'm still confused as to why she's a 'toy' when she's part of the lamp... but eh, small potatoes compared to her suddenly having a soft dress.
Going by the logic of this movie where being treated like a toy brings inanimate objects to life, I would say that the fact that Bo Beep was treated like a toy is why she acts like a toy.
There are children starving in Africa
@@hellofellowhumans9353 yet, you done nothing about it.
I always thought her dress was a part of her body, seeing how porcelain pieces (like dolls) are usualy made as a 1 piece. That's why it's stiff and why it can't be taken off the porcelain doll. And Bo Peep doesn't look to be an expensive doll/lamp in TS 1 and 2 to have a fancy separate fabric dress that you can take off whenever you want. She's a lamp for children and so she shouldn't have been able to take out her dress.
Sorry it's been bugging me forever.
@@hellofellowhumans9353 Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
I can somewhat understand Totoro not being in this movie, since by that point Disney was no longer dubbing Ghibli's films and Miyazaki is very protective of his work, but the fact that he isn't even acknowledged is definitely confusing.
You know what would be a good fix? Make a knock off Totoro! Name him… I dunno, Totori or something, maybe even make him look different. Disney did it with Zootopia.
@@thelanktheist2626 - was there a ghibli reference in Zootopia?
@@thelanktheist2626 I love how totori sound.
@@thelanktheist2626 toy story 4 is good
@@KlutzyNinjaKitty When was this in Zootopia?
I will never understand why Woody stopped being the leader of the toys in this movie. In all the shorts after Toy story 3 he's still the one taking care of the toys (both Bonnie's and Andy's) and making the announcements, so obviously he's the leader. But suddenly after 2 years it's Dolly? I've seen people say it's because Woody isn't Bonnie's favorite toy; but that doesn't make sense because clearly Dolly isn't either and leading doesn't work like that.
The only reason is that the creators wanted Woody to be even more useless than he is in this movie and not have another responsibility with the other toys so they made everyone indifferent to him even though in the 3 movies they keep recurring Woody as leader.
Woody.EXE is the leader of my family and it was my mothers plan for years and she finally done it! He will never reign without me as his Queen this year
its bc women are what companies think audiences want. it would apparently be sexist to have a male lead so they have to swap him out so the 5 people on twitter who bitch really loud dont start crying if they see a male character in any position of power
Thank you for this. I was always alone in expressing utter hatred for Toy Story 4, but this really helps validate my feelings on this unnecessary trashfire of a movie.
I did tell my friends how I especially hated how different Andy looked in it, and they looked at ME like I'm crazy....... @_@
Cuz u kind of are. :)
I’m so happy UA-cam recommended this video. For years I’ve been telling people how much I hated this movie. I can’t believe how much praise it got. Thank you for this detailed criticism of it, there is so much I didn’t realize before. What I hated most about this movie is how little they used the original characters, how much they dumbed down Buzz, how much they radically changed Bo Peep, and Woody’s ultimate decision at the end.
All those things I also HATED about this movie, & I felt like it was destroying my nostalgia, not letting me re-live it.
- I don't like the new firey personality Bo Peep
- Dumb Buzz is well, a dumb idea
- The original toys barely spoke
- Ducky & Bunny are jerks to Buzz for no reason
- Two of my favourite Bonnie's Toys didn't appear (Totoro & Peas)
- I had a panic attack from seeing & hearing Woody getting his voice box ripped out (& this movie is made for kids; I'm an adult & I STILL panicked!)
- Didn't like Woody's final decision at the end, either; defeats the whole purpose of the first three movies
- The bloopers also sucked & didn't make me laugh
I don't understand why people liked this movie.
I pretend it doesn't exist & that it ended after 3 & they rescue original Bo Peep from a mad toy collector similar to Al in a non-existent short.
Woody's decision is what makes this the first good Toy Story film. His blind obedience to human owners was always creepy. It always had a weird conformist vibe to it. It was a fantastic decision to have the setting's most fanatical human-worshiper be the one who actually escapes that way of thinking and lives for himself; that even if you're "just a toy," just a thing someone else created for their purposes, you have the right to pursue your own happiness. It was a great message especially for Pixar's usual audience.
I don't really hate the movie as much as you do but it does have problems
@Zelda Cereza I mean… it’s fine if you disagree with Jonathan, but accusing him of trolling just for expressing his opinion on the film is an outright ad hominem. Even if his opinions are based on faulty logic, you should explain *why,* instead of resorting to childish name-calling.
Hollywood has been pushing a pathetic feminist woke stereotype lately which was the whole purpose of the rebrand Bo Peep. Which didn’t even make any sense because already have Jessie as a strong female lead who was written great originally but pushed to the side here when she could’ve just been upped to a leading role. It would’ve been much better for Bo Peep to have had that “boss” change due to being put in the antique market and if she made a surprise appearance to help them out for a scene. It was way weird to up her to main character status and push away Jessie and Buzz.
Everyone remembers Bonnie's toys except Chuckles. That makes Chuckles sad.
To be fair, Bud Luckey, the voice of Chuckles and Pixar veteran, sadly passed away a year before Toy Story 4 came out. So the filmmakers wanted to be respectful by not including him in the film.
@@hunterolaughlin But Mr. Potato head also passed away before Toy Story 4, they just used older records and out takes like with Leia in The Rise Of Skywalker.
@@possummagic3571 Well, Mr. Potato Head is a fan favorite character so they had to find some way to keep him in the film.
@@hunterolaughlin I think they also replaced Slinky's voice actor after he died. Anyway, the original toys besides Woody and Buzz are barely in the movie as it is.
@@possummagic3571 also the family members actually requested for mr potato head to be apart of toy story 4
This video is the embodiment of " Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder."
I am one of those people out there who has felt gaslit by others saying they love this movie. This articulated my thoughts quite well.
There were a few times I thought "okay, that's a bit nitpicky" as I listened to your analysis - then suddenly remembering some absolute crap like Woody just completely forsaking his character in the prologue.
Even if this _was_ a mere lapse in judgment -
-it could've been telegraphed before that Woody is going through some difficult stuff
-and Woody has always shown himself to be a stalwart, even stubborn character. Him _considering_ this is perfectly acceptable, he even considered leaving Andy in Toy Story 2.
That however, was methodical. It was depicting Woody going through stuff, and then getting a lot of persuasive arguments, and a lot of guilt.
Woody would never make such a spur of the moment decision.
It is a moment of revulsion on par with Luke tossing aside his lightsaber. Both hardly a character martyrdom in of themselves, but a discordant prelude to the awful performance that is to come.
When I first saw this movie, I didn't see the prologue.
You know what's hilarious about Andy's house? The Toy Story world in Kingdom Hearts 3 got it right. No magic driveways whatsoever. They did use Andy's Mom's car from Toy Story 3, but that's assumedly thanks to the open gap between 2 and 3.
That wasn’t a magic driveway, dumbass.
I definitely didn't get as angry as you when I watched this movie but I remember coming out of the cinema disappointed. I saw that Rotten Tomatoes rated the film 98%. I saw how beautiful the animation was. And I thought this was going to be brilliant.
Turns out it was another soulless cashgrab that treated the OG characters dirty. It didn't make me mad just sad cause we could have had something SUPER cool.
Yeah, they sucked the life out of our beloved characters. Woody no longer has a voice box, Buzz Lightyear has to rely heavily on his voice box to tell him what to do and Bo Peep is now all of sudden the leader and treats Woody like he's second banana to her ? What kind of crap is that ?
Soulless cash grab might be going a bit too far, it’s not like Cars 2. I think Pixar definitely tried to make this a great film and worthy successor, they just failed in significant aspects.
We could have had the roll call from the trailer with the context of trying to find Chuckles or something.
@@justinc.5591 A common trend among unnecessary sequels.
Toy Story 3 was a cashgrab as well it's literally just a retread of the second film. I never understood the praise it got at all.
"Woody finally lived up to his namesake when he saw Bo make room for him to come inside."
Sometimes the planets align.
What makes the spork being in the trash can in the kindergarten classroom even more questionable is that, if you look closely, Forky has the Pizza Planet logo on him, which means that not only did a spork get in that trash can already, but somehow specifically a spork all the way from Pizza Planet. I mean, it’s a neat reference, but it just makes things more confusing when you think about it.
Oh my goodness... I knew I hated this film to begin with, but your video explained EVERYTHING that was hateable about it perfectly.
I can't believe that the first few minutes alone were that bad. It all happened so fast, with no breaks in between the botched scenes.
I'm looking forward to watching the other parts!
I honestly hoped this movie was gonna be partly about how Woody processes no longer having Andy in his life. He let him go in 3, but missing him and struggling to adjust to his new life due to the old happy memories could’ve made for a great emotional journey.
Nah have him almost leave Andy during the timeframe between 2 and 3 and his struggle is not being the favorite… again.
A nitpick that always bugged me is that Woody is established to be a very old antique doll that belonged to other children before Andy. So, he's had to say goodbye to other kids before Andy, he should be used to it to some extent.
At a certain point, yes, Woody should feel bad about moving on to the next kid, but there should be a sense of maturity regarding that. His insecurity comes from him needing to be the 'favorite' toy and the leader of the rest of the toys, not from becoming so attached to a specific kid that he struggles to fathom the idea of moving on from him. Jessie, I get, because she was abandoned, but Woody moved from kid to kid.
@@qty1315 Mike Mozart did a video years ago about Woody's back story. The information was gained from a Pixar employee that worked on Toy Story. If I remember correctly, Woody was basically a prototype for the Woody's Roundup toyline. The toyline had a short lifespan due to Space toys replacing Western toys. Woody belonged to Andy's father (Andy Sr.), and years later given to Andy Jr. Woody may not know that Andy was two different kids.
@@dylanlewis5113 That was a concept though. It was never confirmed by Mike or any of the writers who worked on Toy Story that the backstory for Woody was canon. It was an idea they had for the movie, but ultimately never went with it
I left as soon buzz starts listens to his "inner voice" ... talk about stupid
My sisters Woody knows that I love him more than she did and I loved him so much that Woody revealed he was alive and I literally cried and hugged him
15:13 ACTUALLY my mom made me do the same exact thing! She thought I had too many toys so every few years or so she would make me round them all up and I could only choose a few of them. Being a girl-preteen, of COURSE I had some favorites and other non-favorites. It’s actually very sensible for this to happen.
I had the same thought. I never even had to get rid of any of my toys, but when I moved out of my parents' house I picked my favorite of my LEGO creations to keep forever, knowing the rest would be going to my nephew. Makes perfect sense to me to have a favorite Barbie you insist on keeping even if you have to get rid of or have "grown out of" the others
@@abigcupofwater
I’ve kept Woody ever since I got him 14 years ago! I remember when my sister abandoned Woody and he had a phobia of enclosed spaces like Jessie unit I helped Woody throughout the 6 years I had him from my sister. No wonder why Woody left
I love this. It was shown to me by my daughter, who loathes TS4 almost as much as I do. Destructive, cheap, brainless moviemaking. And I love the microscopic destruction of nearly every frame of it.
You’re brainless, not them.
The only negative review of this movie I saw was the Nostalgia Critic's - so, thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this rant.
Don't say stupid things.
There's quite a few negative reviews of this movie. I just saw a video called "Toy Story 4 Failed its Characters" just today.
@@Rubberman202 I'm watching that video right now.
@@scottchaison1001 I actually found it far more enjoyable and enlightening that this, mostly because it didn't exaggerate every single solitary "flaw" in Toy Story 4 and act like they were a crime against humanity, and stayed focus on what was important and the main failing of the movie, the characters and how they don't follow what we've come to know from them through the previous installments (as well as it's new characters not being very good, Gabby Gabby in particular).
@@Rubberman202 Hate to break it to you, but this movie’s plot is a mess; I set out to explain exactly how in addition to covering every other thing this movie failed to accomplish.
If a film’s plot is broken, that is bad. Very simple.
The ways of Woody:
Toy Story: please trust me guys, we’re friends!
Toy Story 2: thank you guys for saving me, we’ll always be friends!
Toy Story 3: We need to stick together, we did it for Andy, and now for Bonny.
Toy Story 4: fuck you guy, Can’t wait to eat dat glass made ass
I never imagined that a human being could care so much about this. Holy cow.
44:08 I really don't believe that Bonnie was the one who wrote her name on the toys' boots. The writing is way too neat for a toddler.
It's way more likely that one of her parents wrote Bonnie's name on the toys.
Just look at how Andy wrote his name. It's written messily like how a child learning how to write might write it.
Then look at Bonnie's name. It looks very refined like an adult wrote it, not a child just learning how to write.
Some children have neater handwriting than others.
My son is about Bonnie’s age. His handwriting is atrocious. His best friend is a year younger than him and has impeccable penmanship.
Considering Trixie is written by her, it wouldn't make much sense that her parents suddenly decide to do it for her.
As a kid, I assumed Andy wrote the ‘N’ backwards on purpose to look “cool”.
Depends. Back when I was a kid I had a really clean handwriting soon after I learned how to write. It's funny since now as an adult I kinda regressed and my writing has become rather ugly. So yeah your point is moot.
Poor Andy. If he knew what was going to happen in this movie he would have taken Woody to college without hesitation. And Woody? Completely out of character. Yikes.
Ik Bonnie a child but I wanna slap her like cmon dude u kept a promise to take care of this meaningful toys and suddenly u create a disposable and breakable toy and replaced those meaningful toys over that , I know Andy would’ve been mad and sad 😭
It's not out of character you guys are just idiots
@@ArionHaggard2023 i know, right?
Woody wasn’t out of character.
@@korrblank1361 Explain how he wasn't out of character.
I remember entering the theatre for this film and being delighted by the fact that these characters I had grown up with (I was like 6 when 3 came out) had returned to the cinema.
Only to be really disappointed that the writers had assassinated each and every character. This is my least favourite sequel of all time, not because it's a particulary bad film but because it's a HUGE disservice to an almost perfect trilogy and ruins everything I loved about these characters. I wish this film was never made.
While I do feel like this is a bit nitpicky at half an hour in, it's appreciated the level of detail you're analysing in. Because there exists no other review like this on youtube.
I was 2 when 3 came out
This masterpiece of a UA-cam series you've put together needs more views. I've been sending it to everyone. I always thought this movie missed the mark. Great to see it conveyed so well.
Thank you for taking your time to explain how Toy Story 4 completely ruins everything that the trilogy.
Especially when hearing what the original script was supposed to be a new cast of other toys that would be set in the same world of Toy Story.
I was watching through this video when something suddenly struck me like lightning… something kinda knit-pick-ey, but still important… All of the toys here have faces and voices of some kind… in Toy Story 1-3 we’ve seen so many different types of toys have sentience, with some examples being the Speak n Spell, Etch A Sketch, the phone, and Totoro, all having personalities and interactions that didn’t always require mobility, standard motor functions, or voices to depict what or who they were. Hell, even the Etch A Sketch had personality with its quick-draw “duel” against Woody in the first movie.
So why don’t we have more toys like that in 4? Bonnie has all kinds of toys and yet they ALL need faces and voices?
Isn't Totoro Bonnie's toy?
@@PeruvianPotato yes, he only appeared in 3, and yet he was still a great exam of what I’m talking about
Thank you! I am enjoying your passion for explaining all the annoyances and your attention to detail is impressive. I would watch you do this for every Disney and/or Pixar movie. Great job!
I actually agree with you (despite liking Toy Story 4). Honestly, he inspires me to want to explain "How PORTAL 2 Destroyed Everything".
Woody said it in the first movie! “It doesn’t matter how much you’re played with, what matters is that you’re here for your owner when he or she needs you.” How can you forget what you said, Woody?! Plus, you’re a rare doll so that makes your line more scarce!
Well she doesn’t care for him anymore.
@@korrblank1361 Neither did Andy when he first got Buzz
@@hunterjones33421: not everyone is the same
2: buzz said it in the fourth movie. Bonnie is going to be okay.
When this movie came out, I was living in Texas, and my mom flew out JUST to see the movie with me because we've always shared a bond over the Toy Story trilogy. We were both extremely disappointed with the movie, but we were extremely appalled by the fact that they dumbed Buzz down so muxh
Josh Cooley destroyed Buzz Lightyear just like Rian Johnson destroyed Luke Skywalker.
@@juregobviooogroverde9107 and I honestly don’t really know which hurts more, because I really liked the original Star Wars trilogy
@@juregobviooogroverde9107 that’s not true at all.
@@korrblank1361 Luke Skywalker’s last line in all of Star Wars is now “See ya around, kid”
That’s awful garbage
@@whatastandupguy3050not exactly.
I’ve only seen a minute of your video and am in love with your editing style.
Every single frame was carefully chosen to accentuate what is being said in that exact moment and is relevant to the topic at hand.
Such attention to detail deserves the highest of praise!
@@LeBabaYaga It’s just to my tastes, but not to yours, clearly. And there’s nothing wrong with that, so let’s agree to disagree on this.
And if the editing is bothering you that much, you could always listen without watching it.
Hope this response was acceptable.
This video is awesome and, extremely entertaining. The way you get upset while explaining the plot holes and, inconsistencies is very fun to listen to. Great video 👍🏻
If Pixar wanted to make a fourth Toy Story movie with a woman taking the lead role, Jessie was right there and they completely wasted her. But as annoyed as that makes me, this section also makes me wanna go watch the second movie again because I adore Jessie and I’m glad to see someone else gets how great of a character she is.
I have a personal hatred for this movie.. When me and my older sister went to go watch this movie in theaters my sis went out of it in the end just speechless... just sad that this is the conclusion to her favorite movie franchise of all time. My sis Athena had so much hope of this movie being good but that didn't happen.
In that case, I hope this series can offer you a form of catharsis; I, too, was stunned to silence by this film’s ending.
So… is my family the only one that forms their own opinions instead of parroting online reviews?
You’re being silly, it was great.
Toystory 4 isn’t true canon. It’s false canon. It doesn’t fit. It doesn’t click with the other movies.
The phrase "blatant cash grab" slinky's to mind.
It obviously isn’t canon, yikes
They could've made a spin off
Actually it is canon.
@@Lizuma actually it is canon.
I never saw Toy Story 4, 3 had such a great ending that I just wasn’t interested in a continuation after that. Sometimes you have to know when to end a story.
My entire reaction watching TS4 for the first time was me going, "Why?....But....Why?...Huh!?...Why?"😂😂 The direction the writers decided to go storywise just made no sense and ultimately left me confused. The characters didn't feel the same and the story itself felt FORCED.
I remember me and Woody watching it together and Woody yells “WHAT! WHAT DID THEY DO TO ME?!”. I’ve never seen my 2009 Woody very angry before
I feel like you opened a lot of people’s eyes cause I’m starting to see a lot of videos saying why Toy Story 4 is bad
It’s not, you wouldn’t be saying this if you were smart.
@@korrblank1361 can you stop. You're just being mean to people and acting like you're the smartest person here. Stop
I never developed any sort of emmotional connection with the Toy Story franchise like you did, but I still think the original trilogy has great writing. So I am certainly hyped to hear you rant about this fourth movie.
Minor detail but I like how you now have clips from Ryunosuke and Susato to use in your Analysis Videos.
The original trilogy is great.
Every time that clip of Ralph talking to vanellope plays it makes me chuckle way more than it should, fantastic editing
"That is rude, and this conversation is over."
Aside from the glaring character assassination in 4, the #1 thing that bothered me was just how brazen the toys were with springing to life around humans, and how oblivious humans are to any of this happening.
Yoo 10/10 respect for the editting!!!!! Every single line was perfectly visualized omg
Hey, a newcomer here because UA-cam recommended me this video. Only saw Toy Story 4 once back when it released in theaters & have tried hard to forget it even existed, unsuccessfully as I still remember the main plotpoints & the ending. Not because I hated it (except the ending) but because I only thought it was an ok movie which is pretty bad for Toy Story & because it destroyed TS3's ending which was perfect....although it seems that this movie did more damage than that.
Was hesitant about the video length and almost bailed when finding out there were several more at around the same length, but decided to give this one a watch first. Needed to see if there was just _that_ much to say about the movie or if you repeated every sentence 5 different ways to stretch the video length. While I'm not sure how effective it would be with this long of a video, I've seen multiple channels where the person repeats information specifically to make it longer for ad revenue.
Only about 20 minutes in and the amount of effort put in the editing is insane. So many 2-second clips used to accurately express your emotions, it's a nice change of pace to other video-breakdowns/reviews even if there's a lot of repeats.
Also wow, based off how badly the flashback scene is, I think I can safely say that there really is a lot to say about this movie and you're not just stretching things out.
You've clearly done your homework and have ironed out your script to make sure everything you say makes sense and pulling references to various parts of the franchise to backup your arguments....apparently more than this movie's writers did.
Anyways, I'll be watching this series in pieces during my freetime. Hope you're having a nice day.
Ive been craving more MauLer content and this hits the spot. Thank you for all the effort this must've taken!
Couldn't agree more. You reignited my rage for this heresy. SUBSCRIBED!!!!
You know, I remember watching this movie for the first time, and thinking it wasn't that bad but still not liking it. Because of the thing that kept coming to my head, why is Woody's character so drastically different from how I remember him? Why is he deciding to stay with Bo if he values family and staying together so much? Woody's character changed so much from the movies I grew up with, that it was pretty jarring to be honest. But I only saw it once, so I never really realized how much I actually hated the movie. Until I finally started watching other people talk about how much they hated the movie. To thanks for that! Great video!
Valuing family and "staying together" for its own sake are bad things. People should pursue their own lives, which made Woody's characterization in this more realistic. He was a follower, and then suddenly realized he doesn't have to be.
You feel this way because change is difficult to deal with. Unfortunately in life it is the only thing that is ever constant. There is a feeling of betrayal when someone is not who they were before but it happens often. Woody went through a painful existential crisis creating sadness when he just accepted his place was gone.
In Toy Story 3, he leaves the gang to stay with Andy while the rest of them stay at daycare. And he does so on bad terms. He only goes back when he realizes they're in trouble. In Toy Story 4, Woody is willing to stay with the gang for Bonnie's sake until Buzz says it's okay for him to stay with Bo Peep and pursue something that he's discovered that gives him a better purpose. Woody also contemplated leaving in Toy Story 2. So no, his character hasn't changed at all, people are just upset that he actually went through with leaving to pursue something else this time.
@@mystman1210 False. Bull hockey. Woody's character was all about loyalty. Toy Story one had him try to stay Andy's favorite. Toy Story 2 had him _briefly_ consider leaving Andy, to avoid the day Andy outgrows him, before remembering the bond they have (which turned out to be the right choice since Andy stitched him up at the end). Toy Story 3 had Woody stay loyal to Andy even when the other toys were convinced that the latter was done playing with them (which, again, was the right decision because he did not have to go through the caterpillar room mayhem). Woody valued his kid's happiness over play time even when everyone else did the opposite. In Toy Story 2, he told the prospector that while he could not stop Andy from growing up, he "would not miss it for the world," and he told Buzz that "when it all ends, (he)'ll have old Buzz Lightyear to keep him company. For infinity and beyond."
Woody's character became inconsistent with the opening flashback for Toy Story 4, which takes place between TS2 & 3, because of what he said in 2. He never would have tried to leave with Bo Peep. This was done to make the ending of TS4 more believable, but it does not match the Woody from the first three Toy Story films.
"This job is not about being played with, it's about being there for Andy" when he needs them. Whether that is in the attic or at college. Woody only moved on from Andy after the latter passed his toys to Bonnie. It was Andy's decision, and as a toy, Woody became loyal to Bonnie as she became his new owner. Watch the Toy Story short films. Woody loved his family of toys. He loved his kid. He had no plans to leave. No thoughts about Bo Peep. No mention of Bo Peep. No apathy whenever Bonnie did not play with him. When Bonnie played the video game in "That Time Forgot," he did not complain.
Woody was grossly out of character in this film. This is an undisputable fact.
Oh, and there is only one purpose for a toy: to be played with. Woody does not have a "better purpose" at the end of 4. He just left his kid because less play time, dealing with a suicidal spork, and Bo Peep returned in his life. He did not remember his motto, his philosophy. He put his desires over being reliable for his kid which is something he would never do, especially not after Toy Story 2.
While I agree with bo’s dress being changed, i feel like bo would be the woody of molly’s room. She would be in charge of all of molly’s toys since she is (I’m assuming) the oldest toy in there
I just now found this. Anytime I had an explanation for a point you made, you addressed it. I can't wait to get through all of these.
Here's how I would change Toy Story 4:
- I would keep the intro. Nonetheless, I would also remove the Operation Pull Toy sequence with the window. I would have Buzz and Jessie work together to open the window. Rex or one of the other toys can be shown retrieving the barrel of monkeys and helping Bo pull Woody up.
- Woody would consider joining Bo in the intro, but he would see his boot instead of Andy. Andy would enter the scene only after the car leaves.
- Bonnie's parents are more caring and buy her a box of supplies meant to create a toy, but she loses the base form. Thus, Woody gives her a spork, resulting in the creation of Forky.
- Woody has traumatic visions of the incinerator when he sees Forky attempt to throw himself into the trash. Woody, Jessie, and Buzz would probably experience trauma from the first three movies in their own way. Overcoming your trauma doesn't always mean that it simply disappears.
- Buzz accidentally presses his chest button due to a bump on the road, allowing Forky to escape and throw himself out the window.
- Woody promises to meet his friends at the carnival at a set time. Woody, Slinky, and Jessie jump out the window together, but Buzz is stopped when Bonnie momentarily wakes up.
- Woody repetitively attempts to convince Forky that he matters, but he keeps failing due to Forky's many questions. Woody tells him the story of his life as well.
- Gabby Gabby is much more menacing. There is a scene where she tortures Wheezy for his squeaker only to realize that it is not a voicebox. He is saved by a hooded figure.
- Bo Peep meets Woody in the antique store instead of in the park. Harmony takes them both to the park.
- Bo gradually becomes more and more embittered over the course of the film due to Gabby Gabby's taunts and the hardships throughout the course of the film.
- I would remove Ducky and Bunny completely.
- The toys search for Woody and the others to the best of their ability. They have much more significant roles in this film. Bonnie's parents decide to stay a little longer to cheer Bonnie up.
- Buzz would not get strapped and become the grand prize. Instead, he would fly over the carnival and accidentally crash in an attempt to avoid birds and the rides. then, he would be captured by Gabby Gabby upon seeing the antique store and Forky.
- Duke Caboom and Jessie create a distraction as Woody and Slinky free Buzz. He is torn to pieces by Duke. Desperate to save her sheep, Bo attempts to save them from the cat. However, Woody risks his life to save Bo, causing Forky to wonder about the meaning of being a toy.
- Gabby Gabby reveals that Harmony has always wanted a Gabby Gabby doll. Thus, it is revealed that Gabby Gabby believes that it is her purpose to be there for Harmony no matter what. This causes Forky to question his suicidal tendencies entirely and eventually accept his calling as a toy.
- The sheep find the other toys and take them to reunite with Woody. They avoid being seen and strapped.
- Bonnie and her parents begin searching for the toys.
- Gabby Gabby threatens Forky directly, forcing Woody to surrender. Harmony has the voicebox installed into her. However, Harmony rejects her when Woody's voice plays.
- Gabby Gabby is absolutely crushed by Harmony's rejection, but Jessie encourages her to join them upon remembering her time isolated from the world.
- Rex, Trixie, and a few other toys stay behind in an attempt to pop the tires to buy time, but it has little to no success.
- Bo attempts to defeat Gabby Gabby to avenge her friends, but Woody stops her.
- The toys regroup at the carousel, but several street cats catch them. In a recreation of the chase scene at the end of the first Toy Story, they finally make it back to the trailer. Duke Caboom is alive and creates another distraction for the group, trapping the cats. Buzz flies Forky to the trailer as Woody and Jessie watch in pride.
- Bo offers Woody to join her, but Woody refuses, remembering his promise to Andy and Buzz. However, a few of the toys, including Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head, join her and Duke. Woody and Bo ride away from one another. Bo reflects on the days with Andy and Molly as Woody and Buzz say, "To infinity and beyond, old timer..." Meanwhile, Bo says, "So long, move buddy..."
- Gabby Gabby ventures on her own, determined to find her own destiny.
- In a post-credits scene, Gabby Gabby is donated to Sunnyside at the end, where she meets the other toys there.
- In another post-credits scene, Duke and Bo run into Utility Belt Buzz, a few new toys, and a modified Zurg, who tells them that they have a situation.
- In one last post-credits scene, a man finds Woody's voicebox, who laughs nervously yet sadistically upon listening to it. The man is revealed to be Sid Phillips.
Please let me know how this sounds! I will happily listen to any criticisms! Let me know if you want to hear my ideas for Toy Story 5 and 6!
Nobody is going to bother to read your essay in a UA-cam comment section
I think it sounds good. How were you not the writer instead?!
I read the entire thing. I DEMAND TOY STORY 5 AND 6
Your amazing at your ideas
@jollama6118 I did.
@@KratosCar You’re
The other odd thing about Jessie hyperventilating in the closet, is that it's *close*, *enclosed* spaces that get her. Namely box~like spaces, but small / tight like that, even if not an actual box will do. The closet is neither a tight space when you think about it, nor is it especially enclosed, due to the slats. So there isn't even darkness pressing in on her. Her outside world isn't cut off, and I feel like the toys could possibly push open the doors if needed for a breather, and then just hastily shut them again when door hanging dog alerts them. P.S. door hanging dog is adoreable. Lovely colour.
And then I watch the video further and see, yes, the toys, in fact Woody by himself, can open the doors.
Man, did Toy Story 4 NOT deserve an Oscar. It has so much wrong with it.
Klaus, for example, was so much more worthy of winning.
Did Pixar bribe the Academy or something?
They were clearly mad that they lost to Spider-Verse the year prior
I believe it's because of the beautiful animation.
Not because of the weak story.
Because it's Pixar so people are gonna call it a masterpiece by default, also the millions in dollars of merchandising that was sold in Walmart.
Never forgetting how Klaus was robbed. It was a breakthrough in 2d animation
This is an affirmative action Oscar for Disney. They never won Best Picture without the sleazy ad campaigns of Miramax, which they don’t even own anymore, and they are pretty much systematically ignored for acting awards.
The reductive comments saying "hur dur too long" and "bur bur no one cares about those details."
Lemme tell y'all a quote that always sticks to me "The broadest truths are best said in painstaking detail."
This man isn't nitpicking for shits and giggles he's going through each scene to show just how messed up and crooked the movie is in terms of writing, characters, etc. Because if he doesn't the "hur too long n nitpicky" comments turn into " WELL AKSHULLY" comments from the exact same people.
Also for the "it's a kids movie" crowd, just because something is made with a younger audience (even though Pixar always said it's family movies not kids movies) doesn't mean it has to be shit.
One of the best comments I’ve ever read.
counterpoint, 6 hours to discuss a 1.65hr movie is a tad excessive. not saying one can't talk about details, heck I've made 20 minute videos discussing how close a toy hits the source material. but there comes a point where you've gotta take a step back and trim some fat
Well there's nothing wrong with going into deeper details, but there's a problem with going into every little animation quibble and holding it against the movie, because if that was done for literally any other movie, it would be just as vicious as this review. Not defending the movie itself, as there are points to be made about contradicting the previous directors, but EVERY movie has SOME form of suspension of disbelief.
As the other two comments said. There should a point where you stop. Because if you dive deep into it and look at frame by frame to count continuity issues then basically every single form of entertainment would be shity.
Children's entertainment should be the BEST entertainment. Here's why:
The media influences our minds. It has an effect on us as people. We are comforted, taught and shown great things through television and film. And the people who need the best influence in their lives are children.
People who say "it's just a kids movie" really don't care about kids. Kids need better entertainment - better influence.
dude I LOVE how you edit these videos. so many clips timed perfectly with your script. the Robert Downey Jr. being slimed made me wheeze. amazing.
Does Bopeps new dress look great? Well. Yes, of course! The technology that made this movie is super.
That being said, I hate it. It would have been far more impressive if they kept her ridged body and dress.
It probably would've made more sense why she took it off if they had kept it ridgid.
@@possummagic3571 full heartily agree
I've never watched the spinoffs before, so I never knew how Bonnie was like there, so my only knowledge of Bonnie was from TS3 and TS4, which made my impression of her... Pretty bad. Sure, she's a kid, but the way she wanted Woody only to throw him in the closet like that felt both like an actual child and irritating because she knew Andy told her that Woody was his precious partner for the longest time, and he ENTRUSTED him to Bonnie. And now I'm just irritated. Because of how they wrote Bonnie in TS4. Which made me dislike the movie even more than I already did.
I've always been the pariah in terms of TS4 discussions because I hate what they did to Buzz and Woody's friendship with him, and no one seemed to understand what I tried to say... Only for you to mention Buzz doing nothing during the opening rescue scene and GOD thank you so much. The ending especially rubbed me the wrong way because it felt like a literal spit in the face of TS2 and TS3. If people can pretend Shrek the Third never existed, I'm just gonna pretend TS4 never existed. TS saga ended at 3. End of discussion.
Fax
The fact that Toy Story 4 ranked higher than Toy Story 1 in Schafrillas' Pixar movie ranking
Wait wait wait! It gets so much worse when you realize that the "Hawaii Vacation" short depicts Bonnie's toys as happy that she left for Hawaii so that they can relax in their time off from play time, because they have lives as sentient organisms which was shown as early as the first movie!
16:35 The very fact that the house and driveway design changed in this movie (which is supposed to be a flash back that takes place BEFORE Toy Story 3) is already a sign of bad/ inconsistent writing lol 😂😂
Or a simple overlook
@@ABoxIsMyHome which means the designers/producers didn't care enough to make sure something like that wasn't overlooked, so the ops comment still stands.
@@thethornhero just seems like such a nitpick and a small example downgrades the argument
@@ABoxIsMyHome don't get me wrong, the guy in this video has some insane nitpicks, but keeping the design of the house consistent should be an important part of the franchise. I'm guessing whoever made the call did it so that there could be "rushing water" on that side of the house for the sake of the scene.
@@thethornhero fair
As a rookie 3d animator, I have to say it would have been SO easy to make the necessary fidelity upgrades to the Andy character model from TS3. How did they forget he needed to be recognisable? Obviously the visual acuity was deffo a main focus in this film, to the point of completely retconning the previous 3 films
Horseshit, if you really think that, then you’re 100% truly literally the most stupid person in the history of stupid people, and have 0 memory of what technology was like in 2009-2010 vs 2018-2019, dumbass who’s dumb and dumber.
Something important to note for new viewers is something OP has said for a while - you can like a movie and still admit it isn’t a good movie. There’s nothing wrong with liking Toy Story 4, the issue happens when you try to argue it’s good.
For example, I really like Master of Disguise, but I am in no delusions that it’s not garbage as a movie. Differentiating between the two is important.
It’s still subjective lol. If you think a movie is good, that’s your opinion, as is the opposite. anyone can argue this movie is good, which is what makes it an opinion.
@@JohnCenaIsMyDad here "liking" a movie is referring to the emotional integrity - you can "like" utter garbage like Danganronpa 3: The End Of Hope's Peak Academy, and many people have done so, while thinking that a movie is "good" is referring to the analysis of the piece as a whole - pacing, tone, mood, logical consistency, world-building and much, much more - These are subjective, yes, but isn't everything subjective when you think about it? Everything you see, touch, smell - as an example, how do you know your experience of "The color blue" is the same "The color blue" I experience every time someone looks at the "show replies" button above? That can be your opinion. Here, just for definition's sake, and for everybody's sanity's sake, let's say that a "good" movie can create the feeling of "liking" a movie for the most people - and exploring that is achieved by analysis.
5:50 Simply because he could have picked it up along with the other toys, and it fell without Andy noticing, but Woody and the others did.
6:00 Andy was able to go out to play without the remote control, it doesn't mean that if RC doesn't have control of him, Andy isn't interested in him.
6:10 That's just to get the atmosphere into the movie, giving you the first look in it at Bo Peep, who was the reason why this movie existed.
8:00 You don't seem to know that in the Boom Kids Toy Story comics, there were times where Bo's personality seemed a bit more "tough" and not as picky at times. Nor have you started to reflect that Bo's character could have changed a little more in the 3-4 years that have passed since the end of Toy Story 2, since she acquired more leadership experience thanks to the fact that she was the leader of the Molly's room. She's not the one to rescue RC anyway, she supports Woody by fixing his hat and smiling at him, and then holds up the monkeys with her cane. It's also not like at that moment she had jumped in with Woody to rescue RC.
8:50 Amazing! You claim to be a fan of Toy Story and you don't know why Toy Story 4 existed. Didn't you realize what happened from 2010 to 2013 regarding the interest in Bo Peep?
10:50 There were originally going to be a lot more scenes set at Andy's house that happened before Toy Story 3, sadly they only kept this opening scene. So the reason this scene is a "flashback" is not because of anything you're saying.
15:13 Is that really just why you say he put a hole in Toy Story 3? Like all children, Molly was able to donate her toys little by little as she grew older and one of her last toys was Barbie Great Shape, she didn't necessarily have to get rid of all three Barbies at the same time.
19:17 The red monkeys have a life of their own, and at that point in the story there are many more toys in Andy's room, they were able to walk by themselves from Andy's room to Molly's room and pile up one by one quickly. Nor is it necessarily necessary that they had to bring the barrel along with them.
22:39 The reason Slinky stopped stretching and went back to the truck in the first movie, is because they were on the street with a moving truck, in this scene they are in a fixed place that is not moving.
31:18 She was ALWAYS Molly's doll, Andy only took her to play with. She appeared together with the others because in the first movie both children's rooms were joined, and later because she simply walked from room to room (just as shown in Toy Story 2) also the Troll doll, Dolly, Duckie and Teddy were toys from Molly.
31:38 Apparently you don't understand the universe of these toys, they are willing to live this kind of thing, they are toys and they have to be prepared for when those moments may occur, they know that at a given moment they could not say goodbye to everyone even if they they would like
32:18 There should have been at least one more scene, before Bo was Sold, precisely to give Woody and Bo's relationship more development, because after the first movie Bo Matured, and after the second movie once Woody was back at Andy's house, he matured. And in those three to four years that they spent within the fiction of the story, their relationship matured more and more. To the point that when Buzz asks Slinky where Woody is, he is inviting them to look at the yard as if he had partly understood the reason why Woody ran so quickly there, even if he hadn't come back. to leave in the box along with Bo. But finally Woody didn't go with Bo at that moment, because he had Andy, he had a child who was waiting for him and needed him, he had a life purpose to fulfill.
47:36 Are you seriously saying that Jessie was killed off in this movie just because she showed a little claustrophobia in the scene where they're in the closet? she's no big deal by God. But if you insist that this is silly, it is worth reviewing that in Toy Story 3 there is a much more direct incongruity in this regard: Jessie is perfectly normal when they are in the toy chest where Mr. Shark was, and later when they are in the garbage bag has a slight bout of claustrophobia; when both scenes deal with reduced and enclosed spaces.
55:30 Buzz just noticed that Woody was a little nervous and it was just a light casual chat, it's obvious that this conversation is very fast and without depth between the two. Moments later they show that the reason for Woody's nervousness is because he hadn't played with him days before.
57:30 Bonnie never had Woody as her favorite toy, the only thing close to that is what was seen in Toy Story 3, but then you don't see any of that. She has more interest in Buzz, Rex, Jessie and whoever was originally her playthings. With Woody she only plays at the beginning of Toy Story that time forgotten, and at the end of this special she drags him on the floor, she played with him a bit but never became her darling.
59:20 Old Timer mentions that it is the third time THAT WEEK that Woody has not been chosen to play. He does not mean that it was only those three days.
Finally someone starts to tell the truth about these "great" videos
The reason for this movie's existence is the fact that they wanted to give Woody "character development" by making him go against everything he's about. 😊🔫
But the fact he already had a development by moving on and finally letting go off Andy is something special and meaningful of toy story 3 especially the other toys , them finally moving on to a another child and create other great memories while cherishing the old ones like a treasure
another thing about the guy who left his keys in the house: the car is still on. The brake lights are on. Why would the guy go back in the house to look for his keys when all signs point to the car still being on and the keys still needing to be in the car for it to be on???
I love it so much that you're using Louis Litt because he's the exact person who would go on a critical crusade against Toy Story 4 with such viciousness as you did!
I am so glad I found this video. For quite some time, I’ve wanted someone to deeply breakdown just how much of a trainwreck this movie is and I was unsure if I’d ever see someone do it. But now I know that someone has done it and that makes me deeply satisfied. Thank you so much.
(I’m currently only 20 mins in as someone who despises this movie and I’m already learning about issues I didn’t notice)
9:37 I agree, she could have been portrayed as a character who develops from being a forgettable lamp decoration to being the brains of the squad, who helps using common sense, cus making her active would be against her design
(It was a terrible of them to just snap the fingers and turn her into different character, rather than giving her a long, but logically consistent development)
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But HeY wE tUrNeD HeR iNtO wOoDyS eNeRgEtIc Pal LiKe BuZz
They could show her that there are more things you can do, rather than being a beautiful, but fragile lamp decoration
That could inspire someone
Gee, it's as if they wanted to make a spinoff movie about Bo Peep at first but then decided to turn it into a full fledged sequell...
@@mr.needlestan2954 my thoughts exactly
There was a short which depicted the transition called Lamp Life.
@@dvader518 And that short will be getting its time in the spotlight in Part 3 of this series.
I was interested in the story when I saw the first movie
And it was getting more interesting in the second movie when this toy family started to grow
The third one was showing how they are strong for each other and nothing can break their relationships
And the fourth movie.. made me wish I never knew the whole Toy story series at the first place, I couldn't handle it's ending 💀
To quote red foreman:
DUMBASS!!!!
I find myself constantly coming back to this analysis series. Having gone to see this film in a cinema, I initially said to myself that I didn't mind it, but upon rewatch on DVD, I hated it more and more. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that shares this sentiment. An excellent series of videos breaking down this film.
The editing is sending me, i absolutely love the unhingedness of it all
The keys scene makes even less sense when you consider that the lights in the car couldn't be on without them
Not really.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention that the guy “lost his keys” but the car is on! Both headlight and taillights are on in that scene, the keys are in the damn ignition
So many people have brought that up and I am just as surprised I missed that detail. This movie just gets worse and worse every time you think about it.
@@GamingMagic13 Actually this can actually fix it: He left keys in ignition only unlocking driver's door, than panicked that he lost key's that he left in car... though probably he's later shown with said keys (didn't watch the movie since it's premiere).
Thank you UA-cam algorithm for introducing me to this masterpiece of a video. Well done. 👏👏😎
“Buzz isn’t doing squat!”: 18:23
*Shows Buzz squatting*
*Squatting intensifies*
He just squats like a concussed goldfish.
I would like you to know I 100% agree with you about this. IMPHO, Toy Story 4, for me, ruined the series. Also, the 2bd drive way thing. LOL, never noticed that.
I think watching Bo Peep perform parkour in a trailer is what made me say"yeah definitely not going to waste my time there".
From this review I'm glad I made that decision lol
Not sure if it’s mentioned in the review (I’m about an hour in), but Bonnie has the respect enough to not bring her favorite toy to a fast food restaurant and not grease him up with her fingers. Actually some pretty good writing there.
Not that it would have saved the film, but I really wish there was a bigger time gap between this and its prequel. Made it feel like the films were growing up with us in a way.