Evasion or Endurance? Throne and Liberty PvP Stat Breakdown

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024

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  • @grobs4678
    @grobs4678  День тому +2

    Note:The 850 hit is just an average. You can easily stack up to 1000 hit if you focus all your equipment on it, and you also have conditional effects that give you extra hit for a short time. The 1000 Magic & Ranged Evasion and the 1200 Melee Evasion are really just the minimum you need to make Evasion useful. You should of course try to build even more :)

  • @DarzerGG
    @DarzerGG 2 дні тому +6

    I’ve been looking for a video like this for almost a month. Your content is great, keep it up!

  • @marcellor9457
    @marcellor9457 4 години тому

    A video about in depth UI/Keybind setup especially for targeting your grp etc as a healer perspective would be very interesting. Thank you so much for your videos :)

  • @pinie111
    @pinie111 2 дні тому +3

    Another great video 🎉 thanks for the quality content!

  • @musubito
    @musubito 2 дні тому +2

    Thanks for the great video. I have a question, could you please explain how anomalies work? In particular, how do collision chances and collision resistance work?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      so there are different kind debuffs (mostly CCs skills and weaken). you can higher the resistance against those skills or higher chance to hit those spells. so you could simply resist those skills. thats just how I always understood it. But to be honest I never tested it. Maybe someone else can confirm :)

    • @Azranihil
      @Azranihil День тому

      @@musubito collision resistance is very important as a tank, getting proned is what kills you at end game. Good to stack some.

  • @shymigrain9338
    @shymigrain9338 2 дні тому +2

    Again another great video that I can post in my guilds discord.

  • @mariotrombetta4105
    @mariotrombetta4105 День тому +1

    In my opinion this lets call them "Number mechanics" are what give sense to the base of the game. I'm up for more videos likes this also more indepth and complex. Awesome explanation Grobs, keep It up🤙🏻

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому +1

      Thanks :) yeah lets see. until release if I have a few more planned and then lets see where I see the most demand.

  • @SenseiMourad
    @SenseiMourad 2 дні тому +2

    Nice video as usual my friend :)
    If you remember me(met you ingame), I asked for Guardian guide and Cooking/Fishing guide.
    I really love and appreciate your work since new world guide (But sadly was on German and need to auto translate them maybe on Aeternum release you make English guides)

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      thanks! yeah for sure I remember. But I don't think I will play New World for a long time :D so dont expect there any videos soon :D

  • @ImDevs
    @ImDevs 2 дні тому +3

    Definitely the right level of complexity, great video! Thank you for simplifying. I’m a college student so I think I could understand all the crazy graphs and stuff, but I know a lot of people wouldn’t wanna put in the effort required to understand the complex math formulas and graphs and stuff.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      That is nice to hear. Yeah, I am really happy that I did the video one more time

    • @ImDevs
      @ImDevs 2 дні тому

      @@grobs4678 if you still have the first take maybe people would enjoy a part 2 and you can put a disclaimer at the start saying this is complex and not necessary for beginners and that your part 1 covers most of what you will need to get started , just an idea! Thanks again for the amazing content

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  19 годин тому +1

      maybe in the future :)

    • @Whatevs886
      @Whatevs886 9 годин тому +2

      Whoa a college student

    • @ImDevs
      @ImDevs 7 годин тому

      @@Whatevs886 woah a complete random

  • @CanaleInsensato
    @CanaleInsensato 2 дні тому +5

    I know it may sounds cheeky because it's the second time in a row I'm congratulating with you but you are reeeeally excellent at what you are doing, keep it up!!

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      thanks :) I am trying my best!

  • @MarkAmbalong
    @MarkAmbalong 2 дні тому +3

    Such a good explainer video thank you Grobs ❤

  • @TheH3idy
    @TheH3idy 2 дні тому +2

    Really good stuff. Some ppl actually enjoy math and graphs. Maybe put it in another more detailed Video?
    Are there preferences between Evasion and Endurance in PvE? Does Endurnace affect the players hp, like in other mmos?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +2

      Yes, that is true. Maybe I will do that in the future.
      For PVE, you usually don't need anything, but if you were going to do something, you would always use Magic Evasion to dodge skill attacks from the boss.
      No. Endurance just lowers your enemies Crit chance on you, as explained in the video. There is no additional effect.

  • @R1GEL-ESP
    @R1GEL-ESP 2 дні тому +1

    I love your videos, you explain it very well, don't worry for others :)

  • @Yamashiro-pai
    @Yamashiro-pai День тому

    appreciate the simplification you went with 💖

  • @Ankury-m1x
    @Ankury-m1x 2 дні тому +1

    Qualitativ mal wieder unschlagbar. Danke Grobs für den unbezahlbaren Content hier!!!
    Auf welchem Server wirst du bei launch starten?
    Hast du eine Gilde oder vor eine zu gründen?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому

      Danke für die netten Worte :) Ich weiß noch nicht, auf welchem Server ich spielen werde. Ja, ich habe schon eine Gilde. Ist ne hardcore PVP Gilde die ich mir rausgesucht habe. Der Server wird erst einen Tag vor dem Start ausgewählt :S

    • @Ankury-m1x
      @Ankury-m1x 2 дні тому

      @@grobs4678 Bekomme immer wieder mit das für viele hardcore Gilden "Kazar" ganz oben auf der Liste steht.
      Bin mir auch nicht sicher. Wie bist du zu deiner Gilde gekommen? Darf man fragen wie sie heißt?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому

      @@Ankury-m1x Über Discord.hab einfach mal geschaut und nach etwas Seriösem gesucht^^ ja ne poste ich hier jetzt mal nicht

  • @YossLSV
    @YossLSV 2 дні тому +1

    привет! это отличный гайд! я бы хотел посмотреть полный гайд с формулами, который ты почему то не выложил)

  • @ecosti
    @ecosti 22 години тому

    finally someone that does it the simple way , this is what youtube needs for TL simplify things expain it so even a baboon will understand. even if i know this things its so nice to see it in such a simplifying way. just i wish u added for new players to understand that yes while evasion seems broken its harder to get up there and u give up on many others stats dmg wise so choose wisely :D plus that we have 3 kind of armors in this game heavy light and rope as any mmo and each armor has only 2 kind of evasions not all 3

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  20 годин тому

      yeah true could have expanded it a little ^^ would have been a nice intro to that... but maybe that would have been also too boring ^^ always hard to tell

    • @ecosti
      @ecosti 18 годин тому

      @@grobs4678 mm i feel for new people that never played TL this kind of small things that might seems boring for us is great knowledge and little informations that would be very interesting , never theless dont take this as judgmental but as constructive feedback

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  17 годин тому

      @@ecosti thanks mate! actually always looking for that :)

  • @Azranihil
    @Azranihil День тому

    earned yourself a subscribe bro, great video !

  • @Josak-jsk
    @Josak-jsk 2 дні тому +1

    Great videos, i am sharing it with my guild :)

  • @iMiyake
    @iMiyake 2 дні тому +1

    Useful info, thanks!😊

  • @haythamelsady859
    @haythamelsady859 День тому +2

    Your content is better than those shity famous content creators regards TnL

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  20 годин тому

      thanks :) trying my best!

  • @BroudonTietjen
    @BroudonTietjen 2 дні тому +1

    Can you do a video on what softcaps and hardcps are relevant for TL dungeons and bosses. For example what hp evasion endurance tanks need for certain encounters. How much evasion you need to dodge hard bosses etc. What hits required for mobs or bosses in dungeons. Does skill dmg reduce boss damge? It would be killer to get a quick overview of each roles breakpoints softcaps for each Stat and trait.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +2

      skill damage resistence reduces the damage of skills so for example skills from the boss. the auto attack damage from the boss is not reduced. In PVE you dont need any special defesive stats even as a Tank. You dont need evasion, endurance or damage reduction. You just need to level your armor so it gets more base stats. The first 6 dungeons which we will have in the first month just dont require more :S

    • @BroudonTietjen
      @BroudonTietjen 2 дні тому +1

      ​in later game will it matter for PVE or is gear min maxing only for pvp @grobs4678

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      ​@@BroudonTietjen Mostly PVP. But people will still min/max stuff in PVE, but just to go as fast as possible :D but the direction from the devs is also heavily focused on PVE lately, so this will probably change.

  • @jessesenpai6473
    @jessesenpai6473 День тому +1

    can you do a guide on tanking and what skills to use sns and wand tank pve really liked your healing guide

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому +1

      Yes I will do that but probably in 2 weeks or so.... till release I have the rest of my videos planned and I really just want to release videos in a decent quality :/ so you have to wait a little. But I will be playing a Tank on release and document my build for PVE and PVP on this channel :)

  • @Old-Babylonian
    @Old-Babylonian 2 дні тому +2

    At least your not selling this info like Joei trying selling ppl his build guide lol

    • @D4Shahda
      @D4Shahda День тому

      😂😂😂😂 What a goon

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      Thats just sad ...

  • @PrinceArtemis
    @PrinceArtemis 2 дні тому +1

    Oh great, its Black desert online all over again with evasion and defense. Greeeaaat, can't wait for everyone to abuse the evasion and it being the king stat in pvp.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +1

      haha

    • @MrSydjames
      @MrSydjames 2 дні тому +1

      You mean abuse endurance? Evasion is a shit stat. Greatswords will obliterate any build using evasion.

  • @MrRediaz
    @MrRediaz 6 годин тому

    Very nice explantion bro

  • @Omenoffate14
    @Omenoffate14 5 годин тому

    Do you have or can you make a healing rotation guide for PvP/PvE as well as tactics, positioning, priorities, everything lol

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  4 години тому

      I probably wont play healing on release. So lets see how I can manage that. It just make sense to do that on actual fights and we need to see what the meta will be... lets see. But I like the idea :S

  • @leonardobarros4566
    @leonardobarros4566 2 дні тому +1

    so i think would be better for my sns/gs early mid and the begining of late game using endurance more, but for the real late game with very good stuff so make a evasion top tier build.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      tanks are really interesting. most people will say: you have to build endurance. I am still not 100% sure. Will do here calculations in the next weeks an will discuss them in an other video :)

  • @ashtart6632
    @ashtart6632 2 дні тому +1

    Hi, is it make sence to build evaion for sns\dagger?) Because of a lot of passives?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +2

      Yes it makes a lot of sense :)

  • @asarawish
    @asarawish 2 години тому

    I have question, Are unit evasion is reduce when they get CC, Like Stun, Bind or Prone

  • @zozleixaxaxgxt571
    @zozleixaxaxgxt571 2 дні тому +1

    every game with stats is a math problem ^^ dont panic

  • @kippesolo8941
    @kippesolo8941 9 годин тому

    No, make it complex if you want to, because that information is missing.
    Everyone else does videos based on what they feel like is worth doing.
    Important is also what percentage of the Players play what type, so Melee, Ranged, Magic to make a decision what you want to build for, also if you want to play in a way that you avoid as many of a certain class as you can.
    For example in pvp there whill be alot of Melee damage because dagger is used alot and gs also sns, as a sns/gs you will take alot of magic and ranged aoe damage in zergs.
    So my opinion is we need at least 2 sets for pvp and 1 for pve. Large and small scale pvp, because in a zerg as a SnS/GS you take alot of aoe damage from magic and ranged, in small scale you fight against another sns/gs or an gs/dagger and a bow/dagger alot of times, so more melee damage.
    I dont like it but Meta plays a role in this, but for the most part i think in Arena and small scale pvp it will stay kinda the same because of the forced roles.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  4 години тому

      Yes, you are absolutely right, it is a lot about the meta. And I will do that kind of video in the next few weeks. But right now we dont know what the meta will be on the release. So many changes happening right now. So lets wait what the meta will be for large and small scale PVP and then we make an analysis on that. but you are completely right :)

  • @paulbarriosduque1101
    @paulbarriosduque1101 2 дні тому

    This is cool and all but you did not mention the fact ranged/magic evasion is only possible using daggers. Melee evasion is only viable in T2 but your stats will be fkd up unless you use Greatsword or...guess what, daggers. Focus specialization from staff may give you a chance to close the gap during some seconds, but now, playing with anything that is either ranged or magic is not worth based on the meta evasion build from OP daggers passive.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +2

      Like this guide should not be a clear do this, do that guide. Because its just not easy like that. It should be explaining to people how it works^^ and your takes without context are just not really good. Are you talking about small scale, large scale or sieges? the meta is different everywhere. so in each type of content people will have different weapon combinations which then makes the value of evasion different. thats why people need understand how it works^^

  • @maxbays7226
    @maxbays7226 2 дні тому +1

    more theorycrafting pls !

  • @bigdogang
    @bigdogang 2 дні тому +1

    Perfect video thz

  • @asarawish
    @asarawish 2 дні тому +1

    Can we dodge Dungeon or World Boss Attack?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +2

      yes. not all but a lot of them are coded as magic attack. So can be dodged with magic evasion.

    • @asarawish
      @asarawish 2 дні тому +2

      @@grobs4678 Nice, Thank you.

  • @mattwill879
    @mattwill879 2 дні тому

    Do you know how much hit most melee and caster have at endgame? Is there a soft cap we should shoot for with evasion?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому +1

      as mentioned in the video... most weapon combos have something around 850 hit. but then those weapon combos also often have conditional effects on how they get extra hit. thats why i mentioned anything below 1000 evasion is like you have 0 evasion... there is a softcap but that really doesnt matter because enemies will also always go more hit. If you stack it... stack it as much as you can... you almost cannot overstack it in the early game.

    • @mattwill879
      @mattwill879 День тому

      @@grobs4678 I'll have to watch again, thank you for the clarification.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      @@mattwill879 if still are questions then... feel free to ask again

  • @Metehan-w9q
    @Metehan-w9q 16 годин тому

    can Monster or Bosses crit in TL ? (never played TL preparing for the game)

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  16 годин тому

      I am pretty sure that they cant crit. But not 100% sure. But never build endurance just for PVE. That would be for sure a waste!

    • @Metehan-w9q
      @Metehan-w9q 15 годин тому

      @@grobs4678 ok thanks i asked because if so i would focuse more on evade since pve is my main prio. (will play tank)

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  15 годин тому

      @@Metehan-w9q you also dont need really evasion... more important is "skill damage resistency" "max hp" and leveling all your items because they will have more base defense values then... I would highly suggest you to not waste your lucent for evasion :S

    • @Metehan-w9q
      @Metehan-w9q 15 годин тому

      @@grobs4678 oh right i forgot about the base stats... :) ty!

  • @karaorman
    @karaorman 2 дні тому

    what better for dungeons help pls?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      you need nothing. for PVE you dont need endurance or evasion.

  • @Tomi611
    @Tomi611 2 дні тому +2

    I have a question but i really want to know the answwer for it but i know ppl may be offended. So how bad is cheaters in the game? I just playerd open beta never played on korea. On korea we know ppl ar overall more honest and humble, But in EU there are countries where ppl are usually cheating if it's possible. To not to offend other country e.g I'm from Hungary i know we are extremely toxic,and we have let's say compared to other country avarage cheater rates. So the question is. Are there any cheaters? Or is there any chance the game will be instantly ruined by cheaters of EU?

    • @BroudonTietjen
      @BroudonTietjen 2 дні тому +1

      There will be bots hackers and RMT players for sure. The best you can do is find players with like minded strats on how to enjoy the game. If you want to be the best on the server you will need to RMT through the AH or 3rd party, be a streamer like asmon who gets free stuff from followers. If that is not you, you will have to accept that you will be behind. Just pray that the devs dont ruin the game trying to fight the cheats like they did to bless unleashed.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  2 дні тому +5

      people in korea are more honest? I am not sure about that :D So yes, there are cheaters in Korea and yes, there will be cheaters in Europe. But there is nothing you can do about it. Just enjoy the game for what it is. Thinking about things like that will only ruin your experience.

    • @Tomi611
      @Tomi611 2 дні тому

      @@grobs4678 okay thanks so it's not cheating free game like speedhack or tp hack? I mean maybe they will get banned later, but they can cheat.

    • @Tomi611
      @Tomi611 2 дні тому

      @@grobs4678
      So cheaters like speedhacking,botting or something like this can be in the game? Like in CS2 where even pros are quitting novadays because of cheaters?

    • @Tomi611
      @Tomi611 2 дні тому

      @@BroudonTietjen Thank you for answer, the p2w part i'm not counting, just like "hard" cheating like botting you mentioned, speedhack or teleport hacks, things like this.

  • @ademcicek5109
    @ademcicek5109 День тому

    and evasion usefull for pvp and pve but endurance just for pvp

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      yeah. but to be honest evasion is also just not needed in PVE :S but you right :)

  • @ademcicek5109
    @ademcicek5109 День тому

    bro hat is the most evasion in game ?

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      what do you mean?

    • @ademcicek5109
      @ademcicek5109 17 годин тому

      İ mean what is the max evasion from gears and build for tank

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  16 годин тому +1

      @@ademcicek5109 so really depends on what type of evasion. so including passives from sns you can get around 1.7k magic and range evasion with t1 gear. thats certainly not bad. but for tanks at the moment its more of an endurance meta. I am not 100% convinced about the endurance meta, but I will make a video about it in the next few weeks :)

  • @produceratlantiz
    @produceratlantiz 9 годин тому

    sounds like a scam. hold on, this is a scam. they want people to build 2 sets and waste real money at shop for it.

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  4 години тому

      no one would build an evasion and an endurance build ^^

  • @randyriot1919
    @randyriot1919 2 дні тому +1

    +

  • @copyc4t64
    @copyc4t64 День тому

    Which server in KR TL has the most English speaking players? Lol

    • @grobs4678
      @grobs4678  День тому

      actually not sure right now :D but is that really that important now? when the game releases in a week