Thanks for the review. My wife has been interested in the Forester for years. The two things that stopped her from buying were the lack luster 4 cylinder engine and the noise. I appreciate your comments on both. I'll pass on to her the results of your review, but those two areas will probably still keep her from buying.
I test drove one and then ordered one! Believe me there is plenty of power. I really don't understand people complaining, I found it just as quick as the Rav4 or CR-V!
I just bought a 2025 Toyota Camry LE which has 16 inch tires. My 2007 Honda Accord had low profile tires and I was constantly having to buy new tires from potholes, curbs, etc.
They fucked up the 2019 -2021 foresters with the TCV in place of a thermostat... Then made a better one for the 22-24... So ya some forester models are bad
@digitaldoc100 no car is perfect but this really does meet the needs of about 90 percent of drivers out there. Power can be nice but most people don't care.
9:15 I will never understand why some automakers like Subaru, Honda, Toyota, Daihatsu and Hyundai still sticking with a CVT gearbox, why can't they just stick with a traditional and normal Automatic gearbox. At least you get to balance normal driving , better gas mileage and less engine-noise . Look i still like your videos joe, keep on going😅
I have three big dogs and one medium size dog and I test drove one the other day and it’s got enough room for the dogs. I put two in the back and two in the backseat.
It’s better than RAV4 & CR-V, the exterior looks and the interior trims. 8.7 inches above ground can go off road and big windows good visibility. Lots of leg rooms(both front & rear)& head rooms, cargo space is large and more space with rear seats(60/40) fold down(fit a stove)I like the metallic green but my wife picked the dark grey which matches the exterior black trims.
@@AndrewTube I contract for a company that does non-emergency medical transportation. I've been doing it for 10 1/2 years and put on about an average of 50,000 miles a year. Most of the miles are highway.
I've sold a TON of these excellent vehicles. If the new Gen is as good as the past, it is the best buy (IMHO) SUV with Viscous Coupling AWD; which l absolutely loved! Durable as heck and not fancy makes it great for kids.
These are very popular in the Pacific NW where I live, for a reason. They are versatile reliable and cheap to maintain. They have very good AWD systems and look pretty darn good to boot. ☮️
We closed on a 25 Forester Sport in River Rock Pearl today and pickup in the morning. The dealer discounted $4500 off msrp with no adds and allowed retail on our trade. We LOVE the redesign on the exterior /interior and are going with the Sport due to the AWD system as well as the features like the panaramic sunroof, harmon/kardon premium audio,19" bronze rims and all the safety tech that's offered. We would encourage those in the market to give this AMAZING SUV the consideration over its competition. We also appreciate Joe and his crew he has always been our FAV in this genre and will continue to support him going forward they are INCREDABLE!!!
I test drove the Sport yesterday and really liked it, but I am on the fence about not getting full leather seats. I am considering the Limited for the full leather.
I will not be buying another Subaru. I have a brand new Crosstrek, had to take it in back to the dealership and my complaint was that there was a knocking noise coming from the suspension area when I accelerate from a stop and occasionally over bumps. Dealership confirmed my complaint, and said it was rattling brake pads and there is nothing they can do to fix it. They said all Subaru's do it and then they slapped me with a diagnostic fee even though I have full warranty. So I argued the fee and they reluctantly agreed to not charge it but also boldly told me that they were marking my file(for being a "difficult" customer).
I have a similar issue and some other random noises in the cabin. I've owned Hondas and Toyota's and drove them 160k+ miles and never an issue. Maybe I got unlucky but every few months there's a new type of sound. Not going with Subaru ever again.
I have driven a regular Forester in 2003 my boss had one and i used to do pick orders up for her. Yes she was a lady Boss I thought back then the cars were really good loved they way they handled on the road always love the look of the Subaru Legacy love to see a video on that one. Wonder if they will ever change the Logo Like Kia Did also when Mazda did as well The Forester love the Shade of blue. Wow that engine is very low The thing i miss about the cars today is a CD Player they need to make one option not everyone likes Docking for Music I love the Old Fashion CD Players Such a Great Looking Forester and Great Video
I Watched video and saw your post. If you want a cd player, Amazon sales a little portable Bluetooth cd player by ARAFUNA. My mother in law was wishing she had cd in her new CRV and we came across this ARAFUNA model and she loves it. It’s so small and can fit anywhere with no wires, plus it has anti skip.
I'm debating between the Forester and the Crosstrek. Other than the size, how do they compare? Do you have any suggestions/recommendations on which one to get?
If you're an audiophile, the HK system is definitely the way to go.. I'm sure the 6 speaker system is fine for people who aren't... but the 4 speaker system in the base is definitely not good. Hopefully they'll offer a fosgate accessory upgrade at some point for the lower trims.
@@717dash_cam I listen to a lot of audiobooks and UA-cam or news 😟 not as much music. Do you think that would be a problem ? I will test them but I’m just afraid that they are really bad
@@agak61 So... put in better speakers if the ones in it aren't great and you don't want to upgrade to a different trim? Or adjust your equalizer to sound better at a lower volume?
Go shop around with a $38k budget and see what it gets you. A Jeep Compass, equinox, terrain, sportage, crv… and the forester will have more available options. $38k for this in todays market is good value. Plus, you’ll find these for under msrp all day.
I like the dimples in the plastic trim. Also liked how Subaru recessed the exhaust tip, will keep minor rear collision repair costs down in minor rear collisions. The older 4 banger boxster engine is underpowered for a vehicle of this size. I'm gonna have to zonk the low horsepower to weight ratio.
Weird how Subaru only has one model which is the brz that has LED turn signals front and rear but none of their models have it. Some models have it up front but that’s it. Subaru gotta commit to doing it
That's the first thing I look at when I go car shopping. OR when I see someone in front of me turning. I think to myself, "damn .... I'd better go buy one of those, they have led turn signals". 🙄🤣🤣🤣
Great review! I do wish you would do a review of the chassis underneath. I heard there were some real lightweight metals (thin) used underneath and also towards the back. Thanks!
Can someone comment on Subaru's CVT reliability? I'd liked what I heard and saw until he said "matted to a CVT transmission". That was a real turn-off for me.
Joe, don't you think the new model looks a bit like a dated Ford or Toyota? A little less sleek and certainly less Subaru? Just curious because that is how it struck me and i am feeling that I did prefer the previous years. For instance my mom has a silver 2021 and it looks kind of nice and slightly sporty. Hope all is great with you!
No zonk on the touch screen? Touch screens can be a safety hazard. Search for Physical buttons outperform touchscreens in new cars, test finds Vi Bilagare" you will find out that touch screens operations takes a lot longer than physical buttons. Vi Bilagare also has a current generation Outback among their test cars BTW. Also, imagine doing this in the freeway where you are running at least 55mph then for some reason you need to do something on the touch screed for at least 5s - you would have driven the entire length of a football field with your eyes closed (this is according to NHTSA) or longer if you took longer to operate the touch screen.
Banking on Sport and up getting they Hybrid drivetrain by default when it's released. More power with some immediate electric torque and better efficiency should really help it. Horizon blue has not been a favorite for me though. Love Geyser, WR Blue Pearl, Sapphire and the Cosmic blues, Horizon and Marina just scream powder blue Prius to me. Now if they do a Wilderness as Hybrid by default when announced, that'll sell me instantly. Otherwise, I'm looking at a touring when my Outback lease is up.
Question do you personally think the 2025 subaru forester is a better vehicle than the mazda cx5, toyota Rav4 or honda CRV, your respond stay safe looking forward.
This 2025 is a much cleaner and understated design than the 24; both inside and outside. it kind of follows the 24 CRV, which also has a much cleaner design than the model it replaces. I'd say that the 25 is a hugh change from the 24, yet it's amazing that the outside dimensions are all less than an inch more than the old model. Good job Subaru!
I’ve heard a lot of great things about the forester and outback from friends but I’m not a fan of the look and styling of either. I can’t unsee the 1980’s wagon that my mom drove.
We actually just got a 2024 Wilderness and a big reason was, we love the lower sloped hood. The visibility is unmatched. This new one I just know we'd have a whole big area of hood to peer over.
The wifey has a 2020 Forester Sport ... and a couple of gripes .. the AUTO START/STOP shakes the entire car when it restarts ... MPG could be better ... and who's "NORM"
Hopefully the upgrades to the motor and starter help smooth it out. The 2.4 turbo in Outback and Legacy XT are significantly smoother. They still have their shuddery moments but they're better for sure. Was getting 27-29 out of my Forester Wilderness regularly, wasn't complaining with that transmission, tire and suspension change.
You do know for less than a $100 that start/stop can be bypassed. Or better yet, quit trying to push the brake pedal thru the floor like Fred Flintstone, and it won't engage.
@@danielfair4675 yes thank you ...actually that was a semi rant ...the full rant going something like this ...the longer we own the Forester the more I dislike the 2.5 boxer engine ... Compared to any Honda the 2.5L boxer seems crude noisy unrefined ...I'm sure one day I will sell it ..thanks again for the reply keith
Ahh, ok, to bad, was hoping for redesign for 2025. Haven't seen any utube videos, been looking, no one has one posted, lots of Forester ones.@@David-dx5wz
Hey Joe you didnt ZONK the Tommy Edison light bulb in the turn signal! But great review to the hardest working man in the car bidness! Shouts out to Steven with the camera work
It’s just so old still , like it’s 2025 , get with the program already all the other heavy hitters look so much more modern ( CrV , Rav4 , Tucson/Sportage , cx50/cx50 even the new Equinox
Idk why i just love Subarus. I know they don’t make good designed cars and they are slow to update and for some reason refuse to keep up with them. But man I would buy this Forester in a heartbeat
I have a 2018 Crosstrek and it is my first Subaru. The area I live in Western Maryland Subarus are very popular and have some of the most loyal buyers. Two reasons, one the cars are very reliable and two they are better in deep snow than front drive based AWD systems. I’m sure it’s because of the low center of gravity of the boxer engine and symmetrical AWD. As far as the CVT goes, to me it’s not as loud as some others I’ve driven and the way they make it shift it feels like a typical transmission. I’ve owned a lot of cars and trucks and this Crosstrek has been a great car. Mine was an early 2018 and I have put Falken Wildpeak tires on it and it goes in snow. I’m looking at getting a new Subaru and was waiting to see this and the new Outback. At first I didn’t like the looks of the Forester, but it has grown on me.
CVT is just briljant. Cruising through all of Europe at 1500 RPM. Yes a gentle foot is necessary but the car is not about racing. Safe and very comfortable cruising everywhere under all conditions on all weather tyres. When you are looking voor a sporty drive experience the car is certainly not for you. I admit we are an elderly couple 😅
@@equestrianadvice I love the CV ...no hunting for gears while slogging through the city. Worst car I ever had was a Mercury Milan (aka Fusion) that had no idea which gear to use.
the Honda CR-V is one of the more reliable vehicles on the road. The Subaru Forester Reliability Rating is 3.5 out of 5.0, which ranks it 10th out of 26 for midsize SUVs.
Will be curious to see if 2026 Outback (redesign like rumors suggest) incorporates Subaru’s next gen driver cockpit and infotainment system. If so, too bad this refreshed Forrester stuck with the current setup. Not bad, but a slow response time to touch inputs several years in without being properly addressed remains extremely disappointing. Rumored hybrid powertrain option would be interesting to see as well. Otherwise, this is a vehicle that knows its target market well and overall delivers.
At this point these are falling behind with that ancient powertrain. The styling took a step backwards this year and they are so much less fuel efficient than the Honda or Toyota hybrid options.
Flat 4 is 1930's engineering. Collects dirt, hard to work on, the physical forces pull the engine apart. Expensive to maintain. Subaru Head gasket $3700. Toyota Head Gasket $2000.
Thanks for the review. My wife has been interested in the Forester for years. The two things that stopped her from buying were the lack luster 4 cylinder engine and the noise. I appreciate your comments on both. I'll pass on to her the results of your review, but those two areas will probably still keep her from buying.
I test drove one and then ordered one! Believe me there is plenty of power. I really don't understand people complaining, I found it just as quick as the Rav4 or CR-V!
@@gregs4163 Also, the new model/ "25 isn't noisy in any way.
I don't understand all manufacturers going with lower profile tires. Roads in my area are rough.
I'm with you. Hate the huge wheel trend.
@@almassengale Last week I had sidewall damage from a pothole. Cost me $450 to replace the tire and alignment.
I agree. I always look for the highest profile tires a model has.
You can always downsize the wheel afterwards, although that would be an extra money out of pocket.
I just bought a 2025 Toyota Camry LE which has 16 inch tires. My 2007 Honda Accord had low profile tires and I was constantly having to buy new tires from potholes, curbs, etc.
Great review!!! I just bought the same limited trim and color on Monday and I absolutely love it
You just can't go wrong with a Forester.
You can if you want something with some power. Thing needs a better engine.
@@digitaldoc100 Or a decent design.
They fucked up the 2019 -2021 foresters with the TCV in place of a thermostat... Then made a better one for the 22-24... So ya some forester models are bad
@digitaldoc100 no car is perfect but this really does meet the needs of about 90 percent of drivers out there. Power can be nice but most people don't care.
@@digitaldoc100 All the cars in this class basically have the same base hp and engine.
I amnot an engineer and I am sure there is a reason, but I would love if all cars had oil filter on the top, makes oil changes so simple and clean
Won't the oil spill out as soon as you unscrew it?
@@mister_dave1184 Not really I changed the oil myself when I had the GR86 and it was always clean
@@CarMarketGuy that sounds great, I always hated it spilling down the sides.
@@mister_dave1184 No, it has a little saucer around it.
I like it. The forester kinda gives me a mix of ford explorer and vw atlas vibes from the front end
9:15 I will never understand why some automakers like Subaru, Honda, Toyota, Daihatsu and Hyundai still sticking with a CVT gearbox, why can't they just stick with a traditional and normal Automatic gearbox. At least you get to balance normal driving , better gas mileage and less engine-noise . Look i still like your videos joe, keep on going😅
The reason Subaru went CVT was to improve mpg actually.
Love the Forester!! Have owned two. This one may be my third!
I'm lucky to have my 2016 FXT for the power and acceleration especially when going on hills on the highway.
Great review! Wish you would lay those seats down when you showed the back to get a visual of how large the back is for two big dogs.
I have three big dogs and one medium size dog and I test drove one the other day and it’s got enough room for the dogs. I put two in the back and two in the backseat.
It’s better than RAV4 & CR-V, the exterior looks and the interior trims. 8.7 inches above ground can go off road and big windows good visibility.
Lots of leg rooms(both front & rear)&
head rooms, cargo space is large and
more space with rear seats(60/40) fold down(fit a stove)I like the metallic green but my wife picked the dark grey which matches the exterior black trims.
Joe, that 25 Forester is the best out there. make sure you get the Touring trim level with the LED lights 👍 I like it Joe, but you already know that 💯
I'd really need to get the Sport in the Sapphire Blue Pearl. What a great combo with the copper wheels!
My 2015 Forester has 498,000 miles.
wow, what did you have to do to get to that kind of mileage successfully?
@@AndrewTube I contract for a company that does non-emergency medical transportation. I've been doing it for 10 1/2 years and put on about an average of 50,000 miles a year. Most of the miles are highway.
@@HunterXray Thanks, my question was, what kind of maintenance/care did you have to do to be able to get it to 500K miles?
The new look is actually pretty nice.
They definetly did a great job!
Got to zonk the Edison lightbulb in rear turnsignal
I've sold a TON of these excellent vehicles. If the new Gen is as good as the past, it is the best buy (IMHO) SUV with Viscous Coupling AWD; which l absolutely loved! Durable as heck and not fancy makes it great for kids.
I like it. It looks rugged without exaggerating the lines too much.
These are very popular in the Pacific NW where I live, for a reason. They are versatile reliable and cheap to maintain. They have very good AWD systems and look pretty darn good to boot. ☮️
Not so cheap to fix the drivetrain once they fail.
@@chuckwalla2967 it's 2024 not 2014
We closed on a 25 Forester Sport in River Rock Pearl today and pickup in the morning. The dealer discounted $4500 off msrp with no adds and allowed retail on our trade. We LOVE the redesign on the exterior /interior and are going with the Sport due to the AWD system as well as the features like the panaramic sunroof, harmon/kardon premium audio,19" bronze rims and all the safety tech that's offered. We would encourage those in the market to give this AMAZING SUV the consideration over its competition. We also appreciate Joe and his crew he has always been our FAV in this genre and will continue to support him going forward they are INCREDABLE!!!
Really? A new model selling for under invoice, by a large margin, I might add, seems impossible, at best.
I test drove the Sport yesterday and really liked it, but I am on the fence about not getting full leather seats. I am considering the Limited for the full leather.
I just bought this same model on Sunday, I did not get that kind of discount!
I will not be buying another Subaru. I have a brand new Crosstrek, had to take it in back to the dealership and my complaint was that there was a knocking noise coming from the suspension area when I accelerate from a stop and occasionally over bumps. Dealership confirmed my complaint, and said it was rattling brake pads and there is nothing they can do to fix it. They said all Subaru's do it and then they slapped me with a diagnostic fee even though I have full warranty. So I argued the fee and they reluctantly agreed to not charge it but also boldly told me that they were marking my file(for being a "difficult" customer).
I have a similar issue and some other random noises in the cabin. I've owned Hondas and Toyota's and drove them 160k+ miles and never an issue. Maybe I got unlucky but every few months there's a new type of sound. Not going with Subaru ever again.
I have driven a regular Forester in 2003 my boss had one and i used to do pick orders up for her. Yes she was a lady Boss I thought back then the cars were really good loved they way they handled on the road always love the look of the Subaru Legacy love to see a video on that one. Wonder if they will ever change the Logo Like Kia Did also when Mazda did as well
The Forester love the Shade of blue. Wow that engine is very low
The thing i miss about the cars today is a CD Player they need to make one option not everyone likes Docking for Music I love the Old Fashion CD Players
Such a Great Looking Forester and Great Video
I Watched video and saw your post. If you want a cd player, Amazon sales a little portable Bluetooth cd player by ARAFUNA. My mother in law was wishing she had cd in her new CRV and we came across this ARAFUNA model and she loves it. It’s so small and can fit anywhere with no wires, plus it has anti skip.
16:37, look at below the tail light. That bump looks like it got hit on that corner. Don't like that design.
I'm debating between the Forester and the Crosstrek. Other than the size, how do they compare? Do you have any suggestions/recommendations on which one to get?
TCV or thermostat???????
I believe it’s a thermostat.
Are the speakers on Premium really bad 😢? They don’t have a package to upgrade like other trims
That is a great question!
If you're an audiophile, the HK system is definitely the way to go.. I'm sure the 6 speaker system is fine for people who aren't... but the 4 speaker system in the base is definitely not good. Hopefully they'll offer a fosgate accessory upgrade at some point for the lower trims.
@@717dash_cam I listen to a lot of audiobooks and UA-cam or news 😟 not as much music. Do you think that would be a problem ? I will test them but I’m just afraid that they are really bad
@@717dash_cam Premium Forester with tax is almost 40k sooo I really wouldn’t want crackling speakers
@@agak61 So... put in better speakers if the ones in it aren't great and you don't want to upgrade to a different trim? Or adjust your equalizer to sound better at a lower volume?
Joe, Subaru says the Limited Trim has real leather seats. True or leatherette?
Would like to have seen the back seat down. I'm more interested in the interior. 😊
Do you think they’ll put the Outbacks turbo in the 2026 Forester Wilderness?
I wish they would but I do not think that they will do it.
@@RaitisRides TY. You do a great job!
Not sure what to make of the direct (only) injection.
Waiting for someone to do a review on the Premium trim.
*This was good !! Thank u 4 ur efforts !!*
Once you can offer a hybrid then maybe.
Right now I’ll keep my 2022 CRV hybrid averaging 40 mpg.
That would be a nice setup.
Hybrid will arrive in 2025.
Hey Joe when are you going to have a review about the HONDA HR-V 2025? Like to hear ur thoughts on that SUV. Thx Joe
These have gone up in price A LOT over the past five years. $38k… wow
Should be more like $28K.
@@chuckwalla2967 The Premium is the best value.
Go shop around with a $38k budget and see what it gets you. A Jeep Compass, equinox, terrain, sportage, crv… and the forester will have more available options. $38k for this in todays market is good value. Plus, you’ll find these for under msrp all day.
@@Adam_S281 I don’t think it’s a good value, but not much is. I do like that Subaru dealers seem willing to negotiate.
@@dforrest4503when the average new car price is $46k .... 38k is a bargain.
The rear 12v makes a great place to plug in a rear camera. Forester really needs a Touring version.
Hard rear seats -- front seats are nice. Overall, in a brighter color, it looks OK. I may go for a test drive in one.
I like the dimples in the plastic trim. Also liked how Subaru recessed the exhaust tip, will keep minor rear collision repair costs down in minor rear collisions. The older 4 banger boxster engine is underpowered for a vehicle of this size. I'm gonna have to zonk the low horsepower to weight ratio.
A perfect SUV for people who aren't into cars.
That would be Toyota
it's Toyota anyways, in the same family lol
YUP LOL.
I basically hate cars and love the new Forester I just leased ....so yeah....
Weird how Subaru only has one model which is the brz that has LED turn signals front and rear but none of their models have it. Some models have it up front but that’s it. Subaru gotta commit to doing it
That's the first thing I look at when I go car shopping.
OR when I see someone in front of me turning. I think to myself, "damn .... I'd better go buy one of those, they have led turn signals".
🙄🤣🤣🤣
It would be nice if Subaru placed the gasoline filler door on the drivers side of the car. Also would like to see a tourbo .
Subie is just going to do a hybrid next year of this Forester. Not likely a turbo version.
They do in Australia.
Great review! I do wish you would do a review of the chassis underneath. I heard there were some real lightweight metals (thin) used underneath and also towards the back. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback!
12volt power socket beside center drink holder bad idea... a splash and the socket become drink holder
I see what you did there! Good call!
Awesome Subaru Forester.
You said in this video you have the Limited, then you go to the Sport then Touring. The Sport trim is below the Limited trim level.
no zonk for laggy touchscreen?
It is a pre-production
@@RaitisRidesunfortunately post-production screens act the same 😫
Can this come with a hitch receiver? It must be an option right?
Yes it can.
@@RaitisRides Thanks for some reason they don't list as accessory. Maybe included with touring spec.
@@RaitisRidesmy understanding is if you add hitch, you lose auto kick gate.
I believe so the Forester is Always better Performer than Honda CRV 👍😃👍
Can someone comment on Subaru's CVT reliability? I'd liked what I heard and saw until he said "matted to a CVT transmission". That was a real turn-off for me.
The CVT has gotten much better with all the manufacturers that have them. I have a 2016 Honda CR-V with a CVT and not a single problem with it.
Don't believe the "lifetime oil" bs and it will be fine.
No! The new CR-V Hybrid is awesome.
I like it BETTER than the 2024 model of the forester
I would go 2024 all day long harley!
Joe, don't you think the new model looks a bit like a dated Ford or Toyota? A little less sleek and certainly less Subaru? Just curious because that is how it struck me and i am feeling that I did prefer the previous years. For instance my mom has a silver 2021 and it looks kind of nice and slightly sporty. Hope all is great with you!
you just gotta get the hybrid going and this thing is all set hopefully it doesn't raise the price too much and its reliable
No zonk on the touch screen? Touch screens can be a safety hazard. Search for Physical buttons outperform touchscreens in new cars, test finds Vi Bilagare" you will find out that touch screens operations takes a lot longer than physical buttons. Vi Bilagare also has a current generation Outback among their test cars BTW. Also, imagine doing this in the freeway where you are running at least 55mph then for some reason you need to do something on the touch screed for at least 5s - you would have driven the entire length of a football field with your eyes closed (this is according to NHTSA) or longer if you took longer to operate the touch screen.
Banking on Sport and up getting they Hybrid drivetrain by default when it's released. More power with some immediate electric torque and better efficiency should really help it. Horizon blue has not been a favorite for me though. Love Geyser, WR Blue Pearl, Sapphire and the Cosmic blues, Horizon and Marina just scream powder blue Prius to me.
Now if they do a Wilderness as Hybrid by default when announced, that'll sell me instantly. Otherwise, I'm looking at a touring when my Outback lease is up.
Thanks for sharing your great thoughts on this one Ryan!
Fingers crossed Subaru does something soon.
Bought mine Saturday
CRV and others have much more cargo room. The limited space behind the rear seats is probably a deal breaker for me.
Love your video
Question do you personally think the 2025 subaru forester is a better vehicle than the mazda cx5, toyota Rav4 or honda CRV, your respond stay safe looking forward.
test drive or buy each one and let us know. :)
Large Compact Crossover SUV Nissan Rogue Mitsubishi Outlander Mazda CX-5,CX-50 Hyundai Tucson Kia Sportage Ford Escape
This 2025 is a much cleaner and understated design than the 24; both inside and outside. it kind of follows the 24 CRV, which also has a much cleaner design than the model it replaces.
I'd say that the 25 is a hugh change from the 24, yet it's amazing that the outside dimensions are all less than an inch more than the old model. Good job Subaru!
I hope the looks grow on me, cause as of now, they arent
looks better with some mud on it
Can’t wait when they bring back XT
I just bought a Subaru Forester Sport. Really like it so far. I have had a Honda CRV before and wouldn't buy one again.
Yeah, honda asking a premium for less tech and worse engine.
I’ve heard a lot of great things about the forester and outback from friends but I’m not a fan of the look and styling of either. I can’t unsee the 1980’s wagon that my mom drove.
We actually just got a 2024 Wilderness and a big reason was, we love the lower sloped hood. The visibility is unmatched. This new one I just know we'd have a whole big area of hood to peer over.
The wifey has a 2020 Forester Sport ... and a couple of gripes .. the AUTO START/STOP shakes the entire car when it restarts ... MPG could be better ... and who's "NORM"
Hopefully the upgrades to the motor and starter help smooth it out. The 2.4 turbo in Outback and Legacy XT are significantly smoother. They still have their shuddery moments but they're better for sure. Was getting 27-29 out of my Forester Wilderness regularly, wasn't complaining with that transmission, tire and suspension change.
You do know for less than a $100 that start/stop can be bypassed.
Or better yet, quit trying to push the brake pedal thru the floor like Fred Flintstone, and it won't engage.
@@danielfair4675 yes thank you ...actually that was a semi rant ...the full rant going something like this ...the longer we own the Forester the more I dislike the 2.5 boxer engine ... Compared to any Honda the 2.5L boxer seems crude noisy unrefined ...I'm sure one day I will sell it ..thanks again for the reply keith
One can get a carbon turbo Mazda that will get up go for basically same price.
Which Mazda? CX-50?
I thought the Forester was above the Outback.
I wish they would have put cooled seats on the top trim.
I just bought a 2025 Touring and it has ventilated front seats. So nice!
They did.
Nice interior and good size but it looks quite dated and also forgot to zonk the old fashioned light bulbs. If only it didn't have a CVT
Love my Forester. It's a 2009, lol, but only 87,000 miles.
Man , I really love your channel!
24crv base vs Subaru base which one to get?
Please make a video on Range Rover SV vs Maybach 🙏 🙏😭😭
He doesn't do trips to the junkyard, &or dealership service departments.
You'll have to do that comparison on your own.
From a distance, the front end looks like a Ford especially with the oval emblem. I’m thinking that’s not a good thing…..
I was thinking the same
God. I want to like these cars so much but they are just so ugly!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. nothing modern about any of their models!!!
I agree! Or an old Toyota design. Maybe a combo. Bummer.
I think the car looks ok, but cover the logo, I’ll never guess this is the new Subaru, I thought it’s a new Ford car. #StopCopyEachOther
When is the 2025 outback coming out?
Already arriving but they made no changes 2026 should be redesign
Ahh, ok, to bad, was hoping for redesign for 2025. Haven't seen any utube videos, been looking, no one has one posted, lots of Forester ones.@@David-dx5wz
It’s an improvement over the old look……….but I like Honda CRV
Hey Joe you didnt ZONK the Tommy Edison light bulb in the turn signal! But great review to the hardest working man in the car bidness! Shouts out to Steven with the camera work
FORD front end
$38k+? That's 2-3 year old Lexus territory.
It's Bidenomics. Everything is up.
Yeah, Touring trim is actually $41+
It’s just so old still , like it’s 2025 , get with the program already all the other heavy hitters look so much more modern ( CrV , Rav4 , Tucson/Sportage , cx50/cx50 even the new Equinox
Idk why i just love Subarus. I know they don’t make good designed cars and they are slow to update and for some reason refuse to keep up with them. But man I would buy this Forester in a heartbeat
I have a 2018 Crosstrek and it is my first Subaru.
The area I live in Western Maryland Subarus are very popular and have some of the most loyal buyers.
Two reasons, one the cars are very reliable and two they are better in deep snow than front drive based AWD systems. I’m sure it’s because of the low center of gravity of the boxer engine and symmetrical AWD.
As far as the CVT goes, to me it’s not as loud as some others I’ve driven and the way they make it shift it feels like a typical transmission.
I’ve owned a lot of cars and trucks and this Crosstrek has been a great car.
Mine was an early 2018 and I have put Falken Wildpeak tires on it and it goes in snow.
I’m looking at getting a new Subaru and was waiting to see this and the new Outback. At first I didn’t like the looks of the Forester, but it has grown on me.
great video
heard they wanna partner with Toyota again to make all hybrids models,,,maybe next year
Toyota own 20% of Subaru.
Subaru you have lost your way. The styling has gone bland and CVT is not the way to go, return to your roots.
CVT is just briljant. Cruising through all of Europe at 1500 RPM. Yes a gentle foot is necessary but the car is not about racing. Safe and very comfortable cruising everywhere under all conditions on all weather tyres. When you are looking voor a sporty drive experience the car is certainly not for you. I admit we are an elderly couple 😅
@@equestrianadvice I love the CV ...no hunting for gears while slogging through the city. Worst car I ever had was a Mercury Milan (aka Fusion) that had no idea which gear to use.
It’s back to the old tall station-wagon look.
yes. veri ugli.
The front looks like a old Ford Edge !
the Honda CR-V is one of the more reliable vehicles on the road. The Subaru Forester Reliability Rating is 3.5 out of 5.0, which ranks it 10th out of 26 for midsize SUVs.
That's funny, CR has it at #1 out of 21 compact SUV's in 2024.
Will be curious to see if 2026 Outback (redesign like rumors suggest) incorporates Subaru’s next gen driver cockpit and infotainment system. If so, too bad this refreshed Forrester stuck with the current setup. Not bad, but a slow response time to touch inputs several years in without being properly addressed remains extremely disappointing. Rumored hybrid powertrain option would be interesting to see as well. Otherwise, this is a vehicle that knows its target market well and overall delivers.
Subaru knows its customer base very well. The redesign is not over the top
Should have gas fill up door on drivers side of car for safety.
The look is really growing on me. Well done, Subaru.
You are not the first to say that!
Joe is a type of a guy to get international driver's license when driving in California
LOL you are freaking hilarious!
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
Thanks brother for having my back!
At this point these are falling behind with that ancient powertrain. The styling took a step backwards this year and they are so much less fuel efficient than the Honda or Toyota hybrid options.
Hybrids are for Karen & Ken
I did not realize that Subaru used Charmin for the soft arm rests! 😂
That bring the good stuff!
Imagine parking like that.
Flat 4 is 1930's engineering. Collects dirt, hard to work on, the physical forces pull the engine apart. Expensive to maintain.
Subaru Head gasket $3700. Toyota Head Gasket $2000.
Yeah why no zonk for the incandescent light bulb back turn signal?😂
You can't see it, who care
@@danielfair4675 it gets a zonk every other time!
It's alright Joe.