My wife found RAV 4 terribly uncomfortable, which was a deal breaker for us. She is a smaller person and felt getting in and out awkward and the position of the gear shifter too far to the right. We went with Forester which has also way better roof rack system if you are into carrying boats or roof top tent. It also has hooks under the engine to conveniently strap your boat. With a slightly better clearance and all wheel drive, the Forester was a clear winner for us.
@@natasha8254 Yes, my wife and I enjoy the Forrester very much. We went with the Sport trim with nice orange accents and large moonroof. It was all good package and fits in our lifestyle. To be fair all 3 options are very close, excellent choices, and very competitive. At the end, it all depends on your personal needs and preferences.
My 2010 and my wife's 2012 Foresters still run like Swiss watches, to this day they have never left us anywhere, I am yet to pay a dime for anything other than the usual maintenance and wear and tear stuff, engines are untouched and neither burns nor loose oil, transmissions are untouched as well. Their bodies are rust free and in excellent shape ( I do under spray every year and the cars are waxed once every two months) Their Symmetrical AWD is second to none, RAV4 and Honda CRV do not even come close to the Forrester in this category. According to Honda and Toyota, the Hybrid battery replacement every 10 to 12 years will cost approx. $8,000 to $10,000 (Just replaced my eldest daughter's battery pack on her 2011 Prius at $7,700), so both Hybrid (even in the coming Forester)and Turbo engines are out for us. When the 2027 Forester comes out at the end of 2026, we intend to pass the 2010 and 2012 Foresters to my youngest daughter and son and purchase brand new ones for ourselves. The only Honda and Toyota I am willing to consider are the Honda Pilot and the 2024 Toyota 4Runner (the 2025 4Runner with turbo and hybrid engine coming are out for us). Sadly they are just too large for us.
I have a 2023 and 2024 Subaru Forester. To say the Forester is underpowered is laughable. Noisy?????? not to me. Ride is nice and quiet. Plus i paid less for the Forester than either the Rav4 or CRV.
I've got a 2021 Forester and can confirm it's a step behind the others when passing on two lane roads. Mine doesn't have the paddle shifters and suffers for it as I can't preemptively downshift.
I had a 2017 CRV with turbo and CVT. At 103,000 miles, I was waiting for either the turbo or CVT to go. I bought a 2024 Rav4 LE a month ago because it has an 8 speed conventional transmission, no turbo and a combo of port and GDI fuel injection which should help keep the intake valves clean. I plan on keeping this car for over 100,000 miles plus, I change my oil every 5k miles and plan on keeping up with service.
@@ericripley9739because in time they will. 165k miles with my wife’s Forester (2015) it is at the dealership for CVT tranny issue(s), current diagnosis is valve body in the transmission.
@@ericripley9739because in time they will. 165k miles with my wife’s Forester (2015) it is at the dealership for CVT tranny issue(s), current diagnosis is valve body in the transmission. Forester has been properly maintained.
I've owned several CR-Vs and sold all 3. The Honda is really great, but a bit pricey for me,. While the Subie is a bit rough around the edges, but perfect on the wintry mountain side roads. And the RAV4 is the best all around vehicle...and my personal choice. But, as you said, you can't go wrong with any of these established, very reliable cars.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord Touring with the 1.5 turbo. This car is now getting 43.1 mpg which is outstanding but I would not put this engine in a heavier vehicle. Our choice is going to be the Subaru Forester Touring while not as peppy as the other two we drove it and consider it very quiet with little cvt noise and the thermostat issue has been fixed and they are using the WRX steering gear now which is tight. The Subaru AWD is why living in the northern snow belt near the Great Lakes fulltime awd makes sense because the other two react when you slip while the Subaru is always working to keep from slipping.
We have a RAV4 hybrid here in the UK, and are getting 53.5 mpg (UK Gallon) All RAV4s here are AWD hybrids with some having the plug in option. As long as it's serviced by Toyota, they have a 10 yr 100,000 mile warranty.
For me you can't go wrong with either, but I'm not a fan of turbos or hybrids let alone EVs (will be in the future someday). With that said, Subaru has a key factor: price. You can easily get their cars for under MSRP. Can't say that with Toyota or Hondas (which is understandable, they don't have to give you a deal as they will sell no matter what).
@@saulliang5880 I wrote a very long and detailed explanation of why we bought the CR-V AWD Hybrid, but I guess UA-cam took exception to the length. The runner up was the Outback Touring XT Turbo.
I've been trying to reply for weeks but YT doesn't like my comments. We got the CR-V AWD Hybrid. If you see this and you're interested in why, let me know.
@@gooner9038 I ended up leasing the Forester because of the drive train, build quality, and overall design. It fit me more, I'm a bigger taller person. CR-V felt small and lacked personality.
@@saulliang5880 The runner up, my pick, was the Outback Touring XT turbo. Quieter, more comfortable, awesome off the line acceleration, better price. My wife was intimidated by the turbo and found the cockpit layout too complicated. The vehicle had been sitting on the lot for 6 months ( no one in Austin wanted a turbo) so they were selling it for dealer's invoice. I hated passing on it but sometimes you have to compromise on these things. The Honda is fine but has zero personality.
@@swamp_rat_fla1126 the batteries have improved a lot and can last at least 150k miles. I don't drive as much as I used to, around 10k a year, so I'm set for 15 years
You can’t beat RAV4 engine/transmission combo. I spoke with a local Toyota service rep who said if you plan on keeping the car more then 10 years then go gas he says they charge $9k-$10k for new battery with installation and nobody should buy a vehicle with turbo but unfortunately every new car has a turbo
Lol you are full of 💩. Batteries for 10 year old Camry hybrid are 3500. Watch Toyota world. If you replaced a brand new Rav 4 hybrid batter at a dealer it would be 4500. You would be crazy to buy a nonhybrid.
Lol the Toyota dealership may charge $9k-$10k for battery replacement, but I’ve seen multiple, reputable 3rd party sources charge around $4k. The lesson here is, once you’re outside of the warranty timeline, never go to the dealership for any kind of service or repair. It’s a giant ripoff.
The 2024 Forester eBoxer gives so much more for the money, for me that's the most logical choice, but I agree on the driving comfort of the CR-V and the Rav4 reliability.
I am a proud Honda CR-V owner and I love it. It's a 2WD EX with the 1.5T. It has good MPG's for an SUV, plenty of room, nice to drive, and feels quick despite the small engine displacement. I know not everyone is a fan of CVT's, but Honda has one of the better ones in the business and has proven to be reliable.
Do your oil change more frequent and you will be fine. Gasoline goes to the crankcase diluting oil, oil has less lubrication properties hence the turbo problems. Some customers wait until the maintenance light is on which sometimes are 8 to 10k miles which is not good.
I own both a CRV & Forester, and there are advantages to both. CRV is a great commuter car that offers great mileage even without the Hybrid. Long-term costs and engine reliability phenomenal. Forester is best if you need extra ground clearance, drive on poor country roads, and snow. More solidly built with better traction, more sound deadening, a better top-of-the-line stereo, better safety systems (lower insurance) and now a 360 camera.
@@WilliamK-e1j Yes. I'm comparing a 2020 CRV Touring with a '22 Forester Limited. From my understanding, the 25 Forester has even more sound proofing. When you think about it, Honda keeps everything light to squeeze out that extra MPG. If that matters to you, great. But I'm semi-retired and mileage is not as important to me.
@@davidgilhousen8191 thanks for your reply. According to consumer reports 2024 Forester is more fuel efficient than 2024 CR-V gas, and CR-V hybrid is overpriced in Canada which can erode future fuel savings .. I’m totally convinced with the Forester (Safety, stability, ride comfort, and visibility) , but still awaiting for its hybrid version later in 2025.
If you value reliability, the naturally aspirated engine will always last longer. On the other hand, the boxer engine has had a array of the issues in the past. Time will tell if the head gasket issue was finelly resolved. Finally, RAV4 seems like the best bet as far as fat as reliability goes.
@@jackbiernacki8603 The 1.5T is very reliable, I have two of them('16 civic and '20 cr-v). The oil dilution thing is way overblown. Direct injected engines from all manufacturers have oil dilution under certain conditions. Just change the oil on time and there's nothing to worry about.
In the short term the Honda CRV is best. If you want to keep it over 10 years then Toyota. Overall I vote for Subaru. Subaru is high quality and the best value price wise.
Would never buy a car with the CVT transmission. Heard horror stories that they go out at 70k miles, even some at 30k miles. I just bought a 2018 Forester with 6 speed manual transmission, last year they put those in. Love the car.
Depends on the type of CVT and the brand. Hybrid CVTs are very reliable. Nissan CVTs for regular gas engines need new transmission fluid often. Toyota and Honda non-hybrid CVTs will probably be reliable with longer fluid changes.
Can’t go wrong with any of the three. But for longevity and for the lowest cost of maintenance Toyota edges out others as the most desirable vehicle for long term relationship.
As soon as Honda adds port injection to the hybrid engine that will be an awesome choice (a spare tire would also be nice, and if no spare at least should have the jack and tools). GDI (gasoline direct injection) without port injection is not good. An engine needs port injection to clean the backs of the intake valves.
I have 25 forester and 23 rav4 , i think at the front seat position, the forester is better than the rav4, about the road and engine noise the forester beat the rav4 in both case, don't know where the author got the sluggish from the forester? And honestly, iike both. Don't have the crv so i cannot make any judgment .
In my opinion his assessment of the Subaru Forester was underrated I have owned a 2016 and now own a 2025 Forester and find both to be excellent rides .
Yep... he completely looked past the benefits of the Subaru and the 2025 is QUITE an improvement over the 2024. I drove it and like it a lot. I bought a Passport (used) and love it, but I'm probably going to buy the 2025 Forester for my wife - because it's.great ride.
My wife and I bought a 2024 Subaru Forester after looking at RAV4 and CR-V and trim for trim dollar for dollar it’s hard to compete with the value of the Forester. At least when we were shopping back in March of 2024, RAV4 had wait times and was hard to even see one, and the RAV4 and CR-V were at least $3-5k more for a comparable trim after a $2,000 USD price drop for Forester with the end of generation model year. I didn’t like the 1.5 liter turbo on the CR-V and the handling and green house effect of the Forester were immediately noticeable.
Made my decision early in the video. Subaru is out as per your comments, Honda is out (& I've owned a few) as I'm not a turbo fan. Check the issues of the Japanese (& others) for turbo issues. My '21 Mazda CX-30 ,non turbo is very reliable (our 8th Mazda) & on a recent trip to Leamington On, using Highway 3 & the 401 delivered over 40 mpg.
If you don't do a lot of driving then you don't really need the extra cost of the hybrid. Tis a toss-up but in the mountains of B.C. there are a lot of Foresters, including mine.
Need a great AWD for camping and outdoors then go Forester. Want more comfort, better ride, latest design and reliability then go CRV. Want a Swiss Army knife that is decent in every category along with reliability then go RAV4.
Can’t go wrong with any of these. Note the Toyota is not cheaper than Honda in USA. We decided on 2025 CRV Sport Hybrid last month and got it for $33,500. It’s a good value for the price.
New. Got it mid July, right after the 2025’s came out. Only got 6% off MSRP; the least discount I ever got on a new car in 40 yrs except for my 2021 full size Bronco, which I paid MSRP for due to demand.
I do not care for look of Toyota. That said it was between Honda CRV or Subaru. Now I am a 14:06 short person I found myself trying to look over edge 😮of hood parking crv. The flat 4 has lower hood line. Also controls are down lower easier for vertically challenged. I will be turning off stop/start I hate the jerkiness
Im in the market to buy a new car and I have been looking at all these cars and others. All cars have their strong points and weak points. I like the toyota and honda but to pay $1,500 extra for 4wd systems that don't work well is a deal breaker for me. I live in NYC and I'm looking for an adventure vehicle to go hiking and camping 🏕 in upstate NY year round and I need the most off-road capable vehicle i can afford so I'm going with the Subaru Forester.
I retired in 2014 and was leasing a CRV so before the lease was up, I bought a 2005 CRV. It's getting close to 200,000 miles now. My son, who poo-pooed me for even considering a Honda, now has 3. 😆
Because you like small displacement turbo engines and CVT transmissions that don't last as long as traditional transmissions and naturally aspirated engines?
@@Prepare2Survive brother, I have a CRV 2017 Ex, is a 1.5t, cvt, since 2018, and that SUV never, NEVER, has given me any issue. It’s comfortable, stable, relatively fast, cheap, lot of space. I love it.
I also have a CR-V as well and I love it. Mines is similar to yours, but mines a 2020. It's a 2WD EX with the 1.5T and I haven't had any issues either. Just keep up with the maintenance, especially the oil changes, and use good quality gas.
@@donaldwilson2620 I forgot to mention, mine is an AWD and has 130,000 miles, and is running like I just got it out the factory. Don’t care if people say Toyotas lasts longer, Honda makes tanks too, but Honda’s tanks are more comfortable, sportier, better looking, and with more tech
@@edgarperez6577 Good for you. Let me know how the engine and transmission hold up once you have over 300k miles....if you actually make it that far. I'm a big Honda fan too, but only the older ones from the 90s. The only newer Hondas I like are their motorbikes. When it comes to modern cars Toyotas are more boring, but they are more reliable "long term".
My next vehicle (to replace a 2013 Prius) will most likely have the Camry hybrid drive train. RAV4, Crown, used Vensa or Lexus SUV. Probably the RAV4 hybrid. No turbos. No GDI without port injection. No belts (timing or accessory). No torque converter 11 speed automatic. No torque converter. No 12 Volt alternator or starter. No start/stop system. No sleazy mechanical belt or chain CVT. It is incredible for what you don't get. You get an electric car with gasoline engine assist. The main traction motor is direct drive to the drive axle like most battery electric cars. The gasoline engine assist comes from an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine. This engine provides assistance to the electric stuff up through a reliable planetary gearset. This planetary gearset and an additional small electric motor provide CVT action to the gasoline engine to keep it at the most efficient rpm for the amount of assist requested. Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. 😊
@@dannybryant6873 thank you. I will likely go with the Venza. I was just hoping for something a little bigger and I think the RAV is too loud on the highway. I was thinking about the Mitsubishi outlander PHEV as a possible alternative or just a gas Subaru. After some research and senior post, I’ll skip the Subaru.
@@batmama4242 . The Crown wagon suv looks nice. I'm hoping Crown lift back becomes available in the U.S.. For the extra fuel economy. I have a minivan for station wagon duty.
@@lionintu I stand corrected, still prefer the larger engine for longevity. Hondas rpms are ridiculous. Had an Element for 18 years 60mph was at 3000 rpms with a 2.4k Toyota mpg is also better.
@@mikej238 understood. I prefer the CRV. But if I were you, I'd be looking forward to next year's revision. It likely won't be a brand new Rav4. Just a revision, like the Camry. I don't expect it to grow. I prefer a more spacious, more fun to operate daily however.
I was wondering if I can get some feedback out there about some concerns I have about deciding between a Toyota Rav4, Rav4 Hybrid and Honda CR V.. I was leaning towards the Rav4 hybrid but I am beginning to think twice and reconsider.. I am 69 years old and will be retiring at 70. I understand the the battery life of a Rav4 hybrid is only about 3-5 years according to research, which is much worse than the Pruis, which I have and bought in 2010 and still have the same battery at 175K. I do not want to spend 3 to 8 thousand dollars in 5 years for a new hybrid battery during retirement and on a fixed income.. My other concern is that although my Pruis is rated for 51/48 MPG, my experience is my Pruis got 37 MPG since I bought it. So I am doubting the Hybrid technology on the Rav4 is really worth it especially during retirement when money will be tighter.. The Honda CR V seems to be a more refined engine and interior, but at a larger sticker price which is a concern.. As I said I was going to go for the Toyota RAV4 hybrid but I am seriously reconsidering and thinking about switching to the non hybrid Rav4 for above reasons. Any thoughts about this would be appreciated.. Is the Rav4 non hybrid engine with its 8 speed transmission and naturally aspirated engine more reliable with less repair and problems than the hybrid version?
The RAV4 Hybrid battery will last as long as the one in your Prius. They are more or less the same. All versions are extremely reliable. If the price difference is not too big, get the hybrid. It is worth it.
The controls for heat, air conditioner, heated seats, start/stop off and whatever else being accessed by the display only is a deal breaker for me for the Forester.
I believe you’re in Canada 🇨🇦 like me. While it’s always good to save on gas, but I suspect that you’ve paid a fair premium on the car price which might erode all your potential fuel savings for 10 years or so …
@@WilliamK-e1j nope, I am in Calgary paid MSRP..as per Toyota...ca website.waited 8 months for delivery. 23 Limited, was only 1800 more for the hybrid than the non hybrid a Ordered August 22 delivered March 23. No grief , even paid cash. Just be patient and upfront with the dealer
You would be wrong with your assumption. I am in Calgary Rav 4 hybrid ltd '23, paid MSRP which was listed on Toyota....ca. At the time it was only 1800 more than the same non hybrid version. Ordered it Aug 22 got it in Mar 23. Also paid cash. You have to be patient and firm with dealers.
@@mikej238 if you got it for this price in 2023, that’s a real steal. I’m in Calgary too and all dealers I’ve talked to them wanted to change me $ 4k or more
@@mikej238 I didn’t buy any car yet as all dealers in Calgary have offered me RAV4 hybrid for $ 4k more than the MSRP or even more .. I’m awaiting for Toyota to increase hybrid production in 2025 after opening their new battery 🔋 plant in North Carolina, or Mazda CX-50 hybrid/ Forester hybrid who will adopt Toyota hybrid too.
Upcoming Mazda CX 50 Hybrid is the best deal for now...price is very competitive, no huge line ups (atleast for now), uses toyota hybrid system (Rav4 engine, transmission and battery)..So reliable toyota mechanical system with Mazda interior and driving dynamics...
the toyota and honda hybrid engines have very different setups - which is most reliable and lasts longest without any trouble and having to dump loads of money into it?
Honda and Toyota have much better hybrid engines than Hyundai. They are more fuel efficient, less complicated to repair/service, and have a 15-20 year proven track record for reliability. The Hyundai is good, but it is a clear third place.
To not get a turbo, you have to get the hybrid CRV. Maybe wait a couple of years to see if the new hybrid CX-50 is reliable. I would also cross shop with the Ford Maverick hybrid, soon available with all wheel drive that was only for the turbo ecoboom engine previously with quite a few reliability problems typical.
My 2010 forester best car I've ever had but be careful where you take it to be servicd especially older models have a different ignition different than newer ones made in 2010 unfortunately the place I took it for service didn't seem to know this and haven't been able to start it up since then. So frustrating. Luckily my son came to pick me up today and brought me groceries and able to get some banking done. Almost 79 years old so depend on my car and subaru has been great in the past. Even my son tried to start it today says thinks my battery is missing couldn't get under the hood to see. Guess I'll have to buy a new car. G
Love my '24 Honda sport touring cr-v. ( jyybrid). Too spacious to be called a compact honestly. Getting 41 mpg helps take the edge off the 36.5 k price ( boughjt with 3k on it )
Left something out on comment. Was looking hybrid on Honda. The additional cost of hybrid was not a factor, gas saving made up most of that. What killed it is when you trade car in ten years car is worthless time for new batteries..
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now… I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it. Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable. At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle. My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
@@VannaHa-do3uhI actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead. It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
@@0HOON0 not really...though the Rav4 is 2nd best with the Subie at top. Honda is the worst of the bunch, its very limited in getting out of rough spots. Toyota is good but just like the Honda... its AWD isn't always on so its really just get you out of something quickly..if it struggles it will overheat and turn off.
@lionintu I did. Along with the Mazda CX-5 and several others. I sold cars for a bit, and knew managers in many dealerships. I took them all for a few hours by myself on bad days with heavy rain and wind conditions. I plan on relocating to a rural area, and was particularly interested in how they handled on wet pavement. No contest, the Subaru owned everything. And I was prepared to pay more. The added benefit, realized after I bought one, was the gas mileage. I get 36 mpg's on the highway and 29 around town. I've hit 39 mpg's on some shorter highway trips. I really liked the Toyota and would have been happy with the Honda and the Mazda. But all three came up short when driven on slippery roads in driving rain and high winds. With a set of decent snow tires, the Subaru will crush them in the snow no doubt.
I think your review on the Subaru's infotainment is subjective. Have you used it for 28 days. you say the graphics are dated, however they are made to be simple to understand. I would say you are just regurgitating others opinions.
I got stuck with a 2024 outback rental for over a month while my car was in the repair shop. the infotainment system is terrible. The screen was cheap and the touch was terrible. Nothing about it was simple. Felt like a smartphone screen from the 2010s with resistive touch. Glad you think it's great, the majority of people won't share that opinion.
We own both a 2019 Rav4 gas and a 2021 Honda Hybrid Touring. We love them both. My wife feels that the Rav4 gas is more rugged and engaging to drive. I drive the Honda Touring Hybrid which I find is more comfortable on a long trip with gas mpg's in th e high 30/40 's. Pwr was adequate in the mountainous areas of New Hampshire. The AWD system pulled up a wet 22 degree incline smartly, with no tire spin! We tested the Sport mode pwr and it moved competently and delivered mpg's between 35/38 range. The only "ding" is the leather seats which are too firm.
These are the 3 SUV's (+ the Mazda CX-50) that all my painstaking research has brought me to. It was great seeing you do this video giving a thorough comparison. Thank you.
Both the Toyota and Honda are frugal partially due to the fact that they are two wheel drive cars with occasional 4 wheel drive. The Hondra 4 wheel drive is really poor compared to the Toyota and Subaru.
Cant consider this a valid review. Why ? You didnt mention the thing about the Forester that many/most people buy it for … and thats the greenhouse effect and huge visibility. In addition to feeling as if you re sitting higher and have more unencumbered visibility. If you leave out its best feature, you clearly rate with either bias or…. Some other way that lets you leave out why the Forester SHINES
Any of the Japanese brands are good choices. Including Mazda. But those people driving Suburbs will F-ing fight you. it's got "SYMMETRICAL all wheel drive." Ok we get it.
Wonder why the other compact SUVs like CX-5, CX-50, Tucson, Sportage, Tiguan and Rogue weren’t included in this comparison? CX5 & Cx50 = lower sales & lower resale value Tucson & Sportage = good value for money but questionable reliability? Rogue = poor reliability! Tiguan = worst reliability! LOL😂
Don't forget the others: Ford Escape=also poor reliability(the EcoBoost models), Chevy Equinox= okay reliability, but has poor resale value and feels outdated, Jeep Compass=don't even ask, and Dodge Hornet=rebadged Alfa Romeo, which also means poor reliability. LOL😂😂😂.
У рав 4 отличная система для езды по снегу, на мой взглятд интереснее чем на субару, я владею обоими авто. Но субару 22 года гораздо шустрее чем рав4 последнего покаления и у субару большой салон, особенно для водителя. Место для водителя очень мало на хонде, мало места и почти не вытянишь ноги, они почти под 90° при моём росте 185 см и почемуто об этом никто неговорит....
CRV has a unique speciality that none of the other cars have, ie. CRV gets to have the title of *"The Most Stolen Car in North America Canada"* ever acc. to Government records 😅
@@sk-un5jq Exactly. The all new accord has been a bust. Boring and dull. It’s fugly and no AWD. Sales are a disaster. That being said, if I’m 80+ it would be a serious consideration.
My wife found RAV 4 terribly uncomfortable, which was a deal breaker for us. She is a smaller person and felt getting in and out awkward and the position of the gear shifter too far to the right. We went with Forester which has also way better roof rack system if you are into carrying boats or roof top tent. It also has hooks under the engine to conveniently strap your boat. With a slightly better clearance and all wheel drive, the Forester was a clear winner for us.
How are you enjoying it? This is what I’m considering
@@natasha8254 Yes, my wife and I enjoy the Forrester very much. We went with the Sport trim with nice orange accents and large moonroof. It was all good package and fits in our lifestyle. To be fair all 3 options are very close, excellent choices, and very competitive. At the end, it all depends on your personal needs and preferences.
The feeling when you sit inside is the most important. IMO, they are far more important than external, interior, engines, specs, etc.
Yeah, but reliability over a long time is the main criteria for a car. How is it on reliability?
@@yo2trader539 Comfort is important, but reliability is number 1
❤ Love the forester. build solid and unmatched awd
My 2010 and my wife's 2012 Foresters still run like Swiss watches, to this day they have never left us anywhere, I am yet to pay a dime for anything other than the usual maintenance and wear and tear stuff, engines are untouched and neither burns nor loose oil, transmissions are untouched as well. Their bodies are rust free and in excellent shape ( I do under spray every year and the cars are waxed once every two months) Their Symmetrical AWD is second to none, RAV4 and Honda CRV do not even come close to the Forrester in this category. According to Honda and Toyota, the Hybrid battery replacement every 10 to 12 years will cost approx. $8,000 to $10,000 (Just replaced my eldest daughter's battery pack on her 2011 Prius at $7,700), so both Hybrid (even in the coming Forester)and Turbo engines are out for us. When the 2027 Forester comes out at the end of 2026, we intend to pass the 2010 and 2012 Foresters to my youngest daughter and son and purchase brand new ones for ourselves. The only Honda and Toyota I am willing to consider are the Honda Pilot and the 2024 Toyota 4Runner (the 2025 4Runner with turbo and hybrid engine coming are out for us). Sadly they are just too large for us.
I have a 2023 and 2024 Subaru Forester. To say the Forester is underpowered is laughable. Noisy?????? not to me. Ride is nice and quiet. Plus i paid less for the Forester than either the Rav4 or CRV.
They are all opinions. Yours and his. No need to take anything personally.
I’m confused as well. First I’ve heard of this. 🤔🤔
I've got a 2021 Forester and can confirm it's a step behind the others when passing on two lane roads. Mine doesn't have the paddle shifters and suffers for it as I can't preemptively downshift.
I found it under power. Then to be honest, these are all under power 😂
Plus you got AWD
I had a 2017 CRV with turbo and CVT. At 103,000 miles, I was waiting for either the turbo or CVT to go. I bought a 2024 Rav4 LE a month ago because it has an 8 speed conventional transmission, no turbo and a combo of port and GDI fuel injection which should help keep the intake valves clean. I plan on keeping this car for over 100,000 miles plus, I change my oil every 5k miles and plan on keeping up with service.
So why did you think the CVT or turbo was about to fail?
@@ericripley9739because in time they will. 165k miles with my wife’s Forester (2015) it is at the dealership for CVT tranny issue(s), current diagnosis is valve body in the transmission.
@@ericripley9739because in time they will. 165k miles with my wife’s Forester (2015) it is at the dealership for CVT tranny issue(s), current diagnosis is valve body in the transmission. Forester has been properly maintained.
I bet Toyota took you to the cleaners on that 2024 RAV4
I've owned several CR-Vs and sold all 3. The Honda is really great, but a bit pricey for me,. While the Subie is a bit rough around the edges, but perfect on the wintry mountain side roads. And the RAV4 is the best all around vehicle...and my personal choice.
But, as you said, you can't go wrong with any of these established, very reliable cars.
Just got our 2025 CRV Sport Hybrid for $33,500 which I believe is less expensive than comparable RAV4 Hybrid or the Subaru.
@@Gergm7991 Dude, where's that dealership, l'm on my way!🤣🤣🤣
Autopark Honda in Cary NC.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord Touring with the 1.5 turbo. This car is now getting 43.1 mpg which is outstanding but I would not put this engine in a heavier vehicle. Our choice is going to be the Subaru Forester Touring while not as peppy as the other two we drove it and consider it very quiet with little cvt noise and the thermostat issue has been fixed and they are using the WRX steering gear now which is tight. The Subaru AWD is why living in the northern snow belt near the Great Lakes fulltime awd makes sense because the other two react when you slip while the Subaru is always working to keep from slipping.
We have a RAV4 hybrid here in the UK, and are getting 53.5 mpg (UK Gallon)
All RAV4s here are AWD hybrids with some having the plug in option. As long
as it's serviced by Toyota, they have a 10 yr 100,000 mile warranty.
For me you can't go wrong with either, but I'm not a fan of turbos or hybrids let alone EVs (will be in the future someday). With that said, Subaru has a key factor: price. You can easily get their cars for under MSRP. Can't say that with Toyota or Hondas (which is understandable, they don't have to give you a deal as they will sell no matter what).
We're going to test drive a Forester and CR-V AWD this weekend. This really helps us to take note of what kinds of things to look for. Thanks!
Update?
@@saulliang5880 I wrote a very long and detailed explanation of why we bought the CR-V AWD Hybrid, but I guess UA-cam took exception to the length. The runner up was the Outback Touring XT Turbo.
I've been trying to reply for weeks but YT doesn't like my comments. We got the CR-V AWD Hybrid. If you see this and you're interested in why, let me know.
@@gooner9038 I ended up leasing the Forester because of the drive train, build quality, and overall design. It fit me more, I'm a bigger taller person. CR-V felt small and lacked personality.
@@saulliang5880 The runner up, my pick, was the Outback Touring XT turbo. Quieter, more comfortable, awesome off the line acceleration, better price. My wife was intimidated by the turbo and found the cockpit layout too complicated. The vehicle had been sitting on the lot for 6 months ( no one in Austin wanted a turbo) so they were selling it for dealer's invoice. I hated passing on it but sometimes you have to compromise on these things. The Honda is fine but has zero personality.
Had a 2017 a Forester. It was nice, about a B. Traded it in for a new Rav4 Hybrid. I am loving everything about it. Rating it a solid A.
You won’t love it when you have to replace the batteries. I hate to tell you, but you bought a POS
@@swamp_rat_fla1126 the batteries have improved a lot and can last at least 150k miles. I don't drive as much as I used to, around 10k a year, so I'm set for 15 years
You can’t beat RAV4 engine/transmission combo. I spoke with a local Toyota service rep who said if you plan on keeping the car more then 10 years then go gas he says they charge $9k-$10k for new battery with installation and nobody should buy a vehicle with turbo but unfortunately every new car has a turbo
Lol here in ontario the 3rd party replacement pack is just 2500 CAD.
Lol you are full of 💩. Batteries for 10 year old Camry hybrid are 3500.
Watch Toyota world. If you replaced a brand new Rav 4 hybrid batter at a dealer it would be 4500. You would be crazy to buy a nonhybrid.
Lol the Toyota dealership may charge $9k-$10k for battery replacement, but I’ve seen multiple, reputable 3rd party sources charge around $4k. The lesson here is, once you’re outside of the warranty timeline, never go to the dealership for any kind of service or repair. It’s a giant ripoff.
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@@grandmastert01 😂 Liar
Fantastic review. Thank you
The 2024 Forester eBoxer gives so much more for the money, for me that's the most logical choice, but I agree on the driving comfort of the CR-V and the Rav4 reliability.
Nice review. Thanks for sharing.
Visibility in the Forester makes up for the crappy entertainment info screen that I never use anyway.
Most Toyota dealers warranty hybrid batteries up to 150K or 15 years. This is a strong incentive to purchase hybrid vehicles.
I am a proud Honda CR-V owner and I love it. It's a 2WD EX with the 1.5T. It has good MPG's for an SUV, plenty of room, nice to drive, and feels quick despite the small engine displacement. I know not everyone is a fan of CVT's, but Honda has one of the better ones in the business and has proven to be reliable.
I hope they fixed the oil dilution with fuel issues of the 1.5T
regret buying a honda cr-v after learning more about cars....turbo on a small engine and a cvt will never equal to reliability and longevity
It has the best ones in the business
this is true. Eventually that turbo will, need some serious service. Around 125,000 miles I guess
Do your oil change more frequent and you will be fine. Gasoline goes to the crankcase diluting oil, oil has less lubrication properties hence the turbo problems. Some customers wait until the maintenance light is on which sometimes are 8 to 10k miles which is not good.
Fantastic review/comparison. Thanks.
I own both a CRV & Forester, and there are advantages to both. CRV is a great commuter car that offers great mileage even without the Hybrid. Long-term costs and engine reliability phenomenal. Forester is best if you need extra ground clearance, drive on poor country roads, and snow. More solidly built with better traction, more sound deadening, a better top-of-the-line stereo, better safety systems (lower insurance) and now a 360 camera.
Agreed 👍
Do you feel Forester is quieter than CR-V ?
@@WilliamK-e1j Yes. I'm comparing a 2020 CRV Touring with a '22 Forester Limited. From my understanding, the 25 Forester has even more sound proofing. When you think about it, Honda keeps everything light to squeeze out that extra MPG. If that matters to you, great. But I'm semi-retired and mileage is not as important to me.
@@davidgilhousen8191 thanks for your reply. According to consumer reports 2024 Forester is more fuel efficient than 2024 CR-V gas, and CR-V hybrid is overpriced in Canada which can erode future fuel savings .. I’m totally convinced with the Forester (Safety, stability, ride comfort, and visibility) , but still awaiting for its hybrid version later in 2025.
If you value reliability, the naturally aspirated engine will always last longer. On the other hand, the boxer engine has had a array of the issues in the past. Time will tell if the head gasket issue was finelly resolved. Finally, RAV4 seems like the best bet as far as fat as reliability goes.
@@jackbiernacki8603 The 1.5T is very reliable, I have two of them('16 civic and '20 cr-v). The oil dilution thing is way overblown. Direct injected engines from all manufacturers have oil dilution under certain conditions. Just change the oil on time and there's nothing to worry about.
In the short term the Honda CRV is best. If you want to keep it over 10 years then Toyota. Overall I vote for Subaru. Subaru is high quality and the best value price wise.
Would never buy a car with the CVT transmission. Heard horror stories that they go out at 70k miles, even some at 30k miles. I just bought a 2018 Forester with 6 speed manual transmission, last year they put those in. Love the car.
Depends on the type of CVT and the brand. Hybrid CVTs are very reliable. Nissan CVTs for regular gas engines need new transmission fluid often. Toyota and Honda non-hybrid CVTs will probably be reliable with longer fluid changes.
Can’t go wrong with any of the three. But for longevity and for the lowest cost of maintenance Toyota edges out others as the most desirable vehicle for long term relationship.
As soon as Honda adds port injection to the hybrid engine that will be an awesome choice (a spare tire would also be nice, and if no spare at least should have the jack and tools).
GDI (gasoline direct injection) without port injection is not good. An engine needs port injection to clean the backs of the intake valves.
I have 25 forester and 23 rav4 , i think at the front seat position, the forester is better than the rav4, about the road and engine noise the forester beat the rav4 in both case, don't know where the author got the sluggish from the forester? And honestly, iike both.
Don't have the crv so i cannot make any judgment .
In my opinion his assessment of the Subaru Forester was underrated I have owned a 2016 and now own a 2025 Forester and find both to be excellent rides .
I have no issues with power on my 21 Forester. It hits 80 quickly enough and is quiet and refined.
Yep... he completely looked past the benefits of the Subaru and the 2025 is QUITE an improvement over the 2024. I drove it and like it a lot. I bought a Passport (used) and love it, but I'm probably going to buy the 2025 Forester for my wife - because it's.great ride.
My wife and I bought a 2024 Subaru Forester after looking at RAV4 and CR-V and trim for trim dollar for dollar it’s hard to compete with the value of the Forester. At least when we were shopping back in March of 2024, RAV4 had wait times and was hard to even see one, and the RAV4 and CR-V were at least $3-5k more for a comparable trim after a $2,000 USD price drop for Forester with the end of generation model year. I didn’t like the 1.5 liter turbo on the CR-V and the handling and green house effect of the Forester were immediately noticeable.
My 2008 RAV4 has 200k miles and is still humming along. I’ll keep her as long as I can. The prices of cars today are crazy!
Subaru is the best.
Best with head gasket repair.$$$
@@raymayohthat hasn't been an issue in over a decade... for the Forester it was primarily 1999-2010 years that were affected
@@raymayoh Not an issue anymore. Also Subaru AWD dose not overheat like the others.
@@raymayohthose head gasket problems were solved several years ago.
Made my decision early in the video. Subaru is out as per your comments, Honda is out (& I've owned a few) as I'm not a turbo fan. Check the issues of the Japanese (& others) for turbo issues. My '21 Mazda CX-30 ,non turbo is very reliable (our 8th Mazda) & on a recent trip to Leamington On, using Highway 3 & the 401 delivered over 40 mpg.
If you don't do a lot of driving then you don't really need the extra cost of the hybrid. Tis a toss-up but in the mountains of B.C. there are a lot of Foresters, including mine.
Need a great AWD for camping and outdoors then go Forester. Want more comfort, better ride, latest design and reliability then go CRV. Want a Swiss Army knife that is decent in every category along with reliability then go RAV4.
Can’t go wrong with any of these. Note the Toyota is not cheaper than Honda in USA. We decided on 2025 CRV Sport Hybrid last month and got it for $33,500. It’s a good value for the price.
That’s an excellent price, was it new or used?
New. Got it mid July, right after the 2025’s came out. Only got 6% off MSRP; the least discount I ever got on a new car in 40 yrs except for my 2021 full size Bronco, which I paid MSRP for due to demand.
@@Gergm7991 I haven’t seen them for less than $39k 😔
@@Steven-ih5etCheck out Autopark Honda (Cary NC). They have lots of CRVs including many base Hybrids at $35,700, but never pay close to MSRP.
You did extremely well. Great buy and great choice 👍
I do not care for look of Toyota. That said it was between Honda CRV or Subaru. Now I am a 14:06 short person I found myself trying to look over edge 😮of hood parking crv. The flat 4 has lower hood line. Also controls are down lower easier for vertically challenged. I will be turning off stop/start I hate the jerkiness
Im in the market to buy a new car and I have been looking at all these cars and others. All cars have their strong points and weak points. I like the toyota and honda but to pay $1,500 extra for 4wd systems that don't work well is a deal breaker for me. I live in NYC and I'm looking for an adventure vehicle to go hiking and camping 🏕 in upstate NY year round and I need the most off-road capable vehicle i can afford so I'm going with the Subaru Forester.
I retired in 2014 and was leasing a CRV so before the lease was up, I bought a 2005 CRV. It's getting close to 200,000 miles now. My son, who poo-pooed me for even considering a Honda, now has 3. 😆
Been driving CRV'S since 1999 love them. Never had one breakdown.
For me, the CR-V
Because you like small displacement turbo engines and CVT transmissions that don't last as long as traditional transmissions and naturally aspirated engines?
@@Prepare2Survive brother, I have a CRV 2017 Ex, is a 1.5t, cvt, since 2018, and that SUV never, NEVER, has given me any issue. It’s comfortable, stable, relatively fast, cheap, lot of space. I love it.
I also have a CR-V as well and I love it. Mines is similar to yours, but mines a 2020. It's a 2WD EX with the 1.5T and I haven't had any issues either. Just keep up with the maintenance, especially the oil changes, and use good quality gas.
@@donaldwilson2620 I forgot to mention, mine is an AWD and has 130,000 miles, and is running like I just got it out the factory. Don’t care if people say Toyotas lasts longer, Honda makes tanks too, but Honda’s tanks are more comfortable, sportier, better looking, and with more tech
@@edgarperez6577 Good for you. Let me know how the engine and transmission hold up once you have over 300k miles....if you actually make it that far. I'm a big Honda fan too, but only the older ones from the 90s. The only newer Hondas I like are their motorbikes. When it comes to modern cars Toyotas are more boring, but they are more reliable "long term".
My next vehicle (to replace a 2013 Prius) will most likely have the Camry hybrid drive train.
RAV4, Crown, used Vensa or Lexus SUV.
Probably the RAV4 hybrid.
No turbos. No GDI without port injection. No belts (timing or accessory). No torque converter 11 speed automatic. No torque converter. No 12 Volt alternator or starter. No start/stop system. No sleazy mechanical belt or chain CVT.
It is incredible for what you don't get.
You get an electric car with gasoline engine assist. The main traction motor is direct drive to the drive axle like most battery electric cars.
The gasoline engine assist comes from an efficiency tuned Atkinson cycle engine. This engine provides assistance to the electric stuff up through a reliable planetary gearset. This planetary gearset and an additional small electric motor provide CVT action to the gasoline engine to keep it at the most efficient rpm for the amount of assist requested.
Electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. 😊
I am on the fence. What did you go with?
@@batmama4242. I'm currently driving an 2013 Prius. If I had to replace it RAV4 hybrid or RAV4 hybrid prime or Crown (or used Lexus suv)
@@dannybryant6873 thank you. I will likely go with the Venza. I was just hoping for something a little bigger and I think the RAV is too loud on the highway. I was thinking about the Mitsubishi outlander PHEV as a possible alternative or just a gas Subaru. After some research and senior post, I’ll skip the Subaru.
@@batmama4242 . The Crown wagon suv looks nice.
I'm hoping Crown lift back becomes available in the U.S.. For the extra fuel economy.
I have a minivan for station wagon duty.
Just got the 2025 crv sport hybrid in white I love it the car looks really good and feels good
Excellent review crv touring is the best
New subscribers I like your video. (Toyota Crown) can see these fabulous cars on the streets of Japan.
Being on a waitlist for a 5 year old vehicle is insane.
The Honda dealership by work has CRV's and HRV's all over their lot.
You will still be on the wait list when it becomes a brandnew model. Honda is just overpriced in Canada. Plus I hate tiny turbos
@@mikej238the hybrid CRV isn't turbo
@@lionintu I stand corrected, still prefer the larger engine for longevity. Hondas rpms are ridiculous. Had an Element for 18 years 60mph was at 3000 rpms with a 2.4k Toyota mpg is also better.
5 years, the Rav has been out in this model since 2019 that’s 7 years now.
@@mikej238 understood. I prefer the CRV. But if I were you, I'd be looking forward to next year's revision. It likely won't be a brand new Rav4. Just a revision, like the Camry. I don't expect it to grow. I prefer a more spacious, more fun to operate daily however.
Anyone can comment on the reliability and maintenance costs differences between the Forester and RAV4/CR-V ?
I was wondering if I can get some feedback out there about some concerns I have about deciding between a Toyota Rav4, Rav4 Hybrid and Honda CR V.. I was leaning towards the Rav4 hybrid but I am beginning to think twice and reconsider.. I am 69 years old and will be retiring at 70. I understand the the battery life of a Rav4 hybrid is only about 3-5 years according to research, which is much worse than the Pruis, which I have and bought in 2010 and still have the same battery at 175K. I do not want to spend 3 to 8 thousand dollars in 5 years for a new hybrid battery during retirement and on a fixed income..
My other concern is that although my Pruis is rated for 51/48 MPG, my experience is my Pruis got 37 MPG since I bought it. So I am doubting the Hybrid technology on the Rav4 is really worth it especially during retirement when money will be tighter..
The Honda CR V seems to be a more refined engine and interior, but at a larger sticker price which is a concern..
As I said I was going to go for the Toyota RAV4 hybrid but I am seriously reconsidering and thinking about switching to the non hybrid Rav4 for above reasons. Any thoughts about this would be appreciated.. Is the Rav4 non hybrid engine with its 8 speed transmission and naturally aspirated engine more reliable with less repair and problems than the hybrid version?
The RAV4 Hybrid battery will last as long as the one in your Prius. They are more or less the same. All versions are extremely reliable. If the price difference is not too big, get the hybrid. It is worth it.
I wish you added Mazda CX5 also in this comparison
Where is Mazda CX 5 ?
In the showroom
The controls for heat, air conditioner, heated seats, start/stop off and whatever else being accessed by the display only is a deal breaker for me for the Forester.
Ive had my Rav 4 Hybrid for over a year. After 23000 km I am at 5.2l/ 100kms and I drive mostly highway and freeway about 80%
I believe you’re in Canada 🇨🇦 like me. While it’s always good to save on gas, but I suspect that you’ve paid a fair premium on the car price which might erode all your potential fuel savings for 10 years or so …
@@WilliamK-e1j nope, I am in Calgary paid MSRP..as per Toyota...ca website.waited 8 months for delivery. 23 Limited, was only 1800 more for the hybrid than the non hybrid a Ordered August 22 delivered March 23.
No grief , even paid cash. Just be patient and upfront with the dealer
You would be wrong with your assumption. I am in Calgary Rav 4 hybrid ltd '23, paid MSRP which was listed on Toyota....ca. At the time it was only 1800 more than the same non hybrid version. Ordered it Aug 22 got it in Mar 23. Also paid cash. You have to be patient and firm with dealers.
@@mikej238 if you got it for this price in 2023, that’s a real steal. I’m in Calgary too and all dealers I’ve talked to them wanted to change me $ 4k or more
@@mikej238 I didn’t buy any car yet as all dealers in Calgary have offered me RAV4 hybrid for $ 4k more than the MSRP or even more .. I’m awaiting for Toyota to increase hybrid production in 2025 after opening their new battery 🔋 plant in North Carolina, or Mazda CX-50 hybrid/ Forester hybrid who will adopt Toyota hybrid too.
Hi, do you have videos about winter tires? Which better for Canadian winter, with spices or without?
Upcoming Mazda CX 50 Hybrid is the best deal for now...price is very competitive, no huge line ups (atleast for now), uses toyota hybrid system (Rav4 engine, transmission and battery)..So reliable toyota mechanical system with Mazda interior and driving dynamics...
Mazda is trash
I bet they sell just as fast as the Toyotas. What is a, "huge line up"?
Shari we had a 2016 Outback with the 2.5 that never set any speed records how can a lighter Forester not be a welcome upgrade?
the toyota and honda hybrid engines have very different setups - which is most reliable and lasts longest without any trouble and having to dump loads of money into it?
How do you know that conventional transmission is safer and lasting longer than CVT?
whats your opinion on the hyundai tucon and the kia compared to these 3
Nice vehicles but higher risk of repair issues as they age. Reliability is so so.
Shari, what do you think about the Hyundai Tucson hybrid 2024. Does it compare to the rav-4 or the crv?
Honda and Toyota have much better hybrid engines than Hyundai. They are more fuel efficient, less complicated to repair/service, and have a 15-20 year proven track record for reliability. The Hyundai is good, but it is a clear third place.
@@carhelpcorner Would you do a video on the Tucson Hybrid? Just want to get your all around opinion on the car if possible.
They must have changed the forester motor from my 2020. It is a rocket weather passing going up hill
To not get a turbo, you have to get the hybrid CRV. Maybe wait a couple of years to see if the new hybrid CX-50 is reliable. I would also cross shop with the Ford Maverick hybrid, soon available with all wheel drive that was only for the turbo ecoboom engine previously with quite a few reliability problems typical.
My 2010 forester best car I've ever had but be careful where you take it to be servicd especially older models have a different ignition different than newer ones made in 2010 unfortunately the place I took it for service didn't seem to know this and haven't been able to start it up since then. So frustrating. Luckily my son came to pick me up today and brought me groceries and able to get some banking done. Almost 79 years old so depend on my car and subaru has been great in the past. Even my son tried to start it today says thinks my battery is missing couldn't get under the hood to see. Guess I'll have to buy a new car. G
Love my '24 Honda sport touring cr-v. ( jyybrid). Too spacious to be called a compact honestly. Getting 41 mpg helps take the edge off the 36.5 k price ( boughjt with 3k on it )
This guy has a hard-on for hybrid vehicles!!!
I am six one ...bang my head trying to sit in a Rav 4...Forester?...no problem...bought the Forester.
Left something out on comment. Was looking hybrid on Honda. The additional cost of hybrid was not a factor, gas saving made up most of that. What killed it is when you trade car in ten years car is worthless time for new batteries..
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now…
I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it.
Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable.
At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle.
My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
i am going to buy 2025 Forester, wonder how do you like yours after 1 month driving ? thanks
@@VannaHa-do3uhI actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead.
It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
I turned off lane centering too. I'll drive my own car..thanks...
Drive them all around in treacherous weather, and the needle moves towards the Subaru.
The difference is smaller than it used to be.
@@0HOON0 not really...though the Rav4 is 2nd best with the Subie at top. Honda is the worst of the bunch, its very limited in getting out of rough spots. Toyota is good but just like the Honda... its AWD isn't always on so its really just get you out of something quickly..if it struggles it will overheat and turn off.
No one's driving in treacherous water
@lionintu I did. Along with the Mazda CX-5 and several others. I sold cars for a bit, and knew managers in many dealerships. I took them all for a few hours by myself on bad days with heavy rain and wind conditions. I plan on relocating to a rural area, and was particularly interested in how they handled on wet pavement. No contest, the Subaru owned everything. And I was prepared to pay more. The added benefit, realized after I bought one, was the gas mileage. I get 36 mpg's on the highway and 29 around town. I've hit 39 mpg's on some shorter highway trips. I really liked the Toyota and would have been happy with the Honda and the Mazda. But all three came up short when driven on slippery roads in driving rain and high winds. With a set of decent snow tires, the Subaru will crush them in the snow no doubt.
@@vjmtz Toyota AWD overheats it's been tested in other videos.
I think your review on the Subaru's infotainment is subjective. Have you used it for 28 days. you say the graphics are dated, however they are made to be simple to understand. I would say you are just regurgitating others opinions.
I got stuck with a 2024 outback rental for over a month while my car was in the repair shop. the infotainment system is terrible. The screen was cheap and the touch was terrible. Nothing about it was simple. Felt like a smartphone screen from the 2010s with resistive touch. Glad you think it's great, the majority of people won't share that opinion.
We own both a 2019 Rav4 gas and a 2021 Honda Hybrid Touring. We love them both. My wife feels that the Rav4 gas is more rugged and engaging to drive. I drive the Honda Touring Hybrid which I find is more comfortable on a long trip with gas mpg's in th e high 30/40 's. Pwr was adequate in the mountainous areas of New Hampshire. The AWD system pulled up a wet 22 degree incline smartly, with no tire spin! We tested the Sport mode pwr and it moved competently and delivered mpg's between 35/38 range. The only "ding" is the leather seats which are too firm.
These are the 3 SUV's (+ the Mazda CX-50) that all my painstaking research has brought me to. It was great seeing you do this video giving a thorough comparison. Thank you.
Both the Toyota and Honda are frugal partially due to the fact that they are two wheel drive cars with occasional 4 wheel drive. The Hondra 4 wheel drive is really poor compared to the Toyota and Subaru.
Was that Missisauga Road in the background?
Good eye 😄
If you're a real man, forester is for you. If your a woman or gay, CRV is for you. If you want the most reliable small SUV, RAV4 is for you.
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Include the Mazda CX-50 hybrid when it come out too.
The best midsize suv these days is missing here, & we all know which one that is. It looks better & drives better than all these.
No, we all do not know.
What should be the best price of Honda CRV hybrid Sport L today ? any one purchased recently ?
2k off MSRP, with Honda promotional 5.9% 72 months is what I got for the Sport L Hybrid AWD in Urban Grey Pearl.
I can't buy a rav 4 hybrid due to the amount of salt on our quebec roads and it destroys the hybrid cable.
40 MPG with hybrid? My 2020 Forester with a K&N airfilter gets 36 to 38 MPG highway. For the extra money for a Hybrid is shit milage. NO THANK YOU!
All 3 are excellent SUV’s, the CRV and the RAV4 will get stolen in the first 6 months…
@@pgb1913 for sure in Canada
Never mind the thrashy engine note of the rav4
No Nissan Rogue?
The reliability is inferior. Too many engine and transmission problems.
❤ subaru forrester e boxer
30 to 35k new or used suv options for long term 🤔 these days every suv in overly price especially hybirds 😮
Rav4 all the way. Also the sexiest💯
In China ，We only have CVT+2.0L (only 171 horsepower)vision rav4，but it's very cheaper！just about 20K us dollars！😂
A totally unprofessional review.. You are ignoring all the subaru huge advantages
Cant consider this a valid review. Why ? You didnt mention the thing about the Forester that many/most people buy it for … and thats the greenhouse effect and huge visibility. In addition to feeling as if you re sitting higher and have more unencumbered visibility. If you leave out its best feature, you clearly rate with either bias or…. Some other way that lets you leave out why the Forester SHINES
I believe Toyota owns part of Subaru
They do
which one is the most reliable and comes with a spare tire and an actually opening roof? Pretty basic, right? LOL
Any of the Japanese brands are good choices. Including Mazda. But those people driving Suburbs will F-ing fight you. it's got "SYMMETRICAL all wheel drive."
Ok we get it.
Just watch the roller / slip tests. To each his own. I like the simplicity of he Subaru AWD but I love the tech of the Honda Passport i-VTM4.
Subaru and Porsche have the best AWD systems no contest.
Brought to you by Toyota:)
RAV4 for the win
Honda lose simply because it has a turbo and cvt
All being equal, I would make my decision based on the transmission. CVT is out.
Wonder why the other compact SUVs like CX-5, CX-50, Tucson, Sportage, Tiguan and Rogue weren’t included in this comparison?
CX5 & Cx50 = lower sales & lower resale value
Tucson & Sportage = good value for money but questionable reliability?
Rogue = poor reliability!
Tiguan = worst reliability!
LOL😂
Don't forget the others: Ford Escape=also poor reliability(the EcoBoost models), Chevy Equinox= okay reliability, but has poor resale value and feels outdated, Jeep Compass=don't even ask, and Dodge Hornet=rebadged Alfa Romeo, which also means poor reliability. LOL😂😂😂.
@@donaldwilson2620they’re all not worth even mentioning and included in this review 😂
Maybe because these were the only 3 chosen and available for reviews at that time ?
@@dongkapuyawn5107I don’t think so!
У рав 4 отличная система для езды по снегу, на мой взглятд интереснее чем на субару, я владею обоими авто. Но субару 22 года гораздо шустрее чем рав4 последнего покаления и у субару большой салон, особенно для водителя. Место для водителя очень мало на хонде, мало места и почти не вытянишь ноги, они почти под 90° при моём росте 185 см и почемуто об этом никто неговорит....
1967 Dodge power wagon. Best
CRV has a unique speciality that none of the other cars have, ie. CRV gets to have the title of *"The Most Stolen Car in North America Canada"* ever acc. to Government records 😅
The CRV is not exactly the quickest ... .
ok, ruling out CRV due to turbo engine. Nope.
Toyota every time
Battle of the Topguns 😮
1- CRV (Hybrid only)
2- RAV4 (Hybrid only)
3 - Forester
The all new RAV4 (announced in November) will destroy all of them.
Hold your horses! Ah I don’t think so…let’s wait and see first how the redesigned RAV4 comes out
The new Camry hybrid didn't beat the Accord hybrid.
@@sk-un5jqI agree. The new Camry did not beat the Accord.
@@sk-un5jq
Exactly. The all new accord has been a bust. Boring and dull. It’s fugly and no AWD. Sales are a disaster. That being said, if I’m
80+ it would be a serious consideration.
@@ztekz
Precisely!
232 HP, hybrid only, improved interior. 😊
A lot also has to do with personal preferences.
Eww CR-V is trash. Subie and RAVs for the win