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Was up in the mountains in upstae NY after two feet of snow and mud. I passed a jeep trail hawk with all terrian tires and all his out doorsy garb stuck in thick mud and snow. Some people just don't know how to drive in deep snow. My stock 21 forester sport with Falken wildpeaks saved the day. Subaru Asymmetrical AWD for the win!
We just purchased a 25 Forester Touring, having owned a 21 Forester Touring previously. The 21 Touring was an exceptionally reliable, comfortable SUV. We loved it. The new Touring has added some really nice features (cooled front seats, kick to open the back gate, 360 deg camera view). The seats are even more comfortable than those on the 21 model. We also love that the Forester comes standard with their exceptional 4-wheel drive system. It is hard to beat in bad weather. We love the great ground clearance which helps in deep snow or in off roading.
Another factor to consider is that (at least in my local area) the Forester is in stock and typically selling about $1500-2000 under MSRP, while you might have to wait a few weeks for the privilege of buying the CR-V at a markup over MSRP.
Buying a CRV, especially Sport L, is easy in most places right now. Roll down to the lots, you’ll see. I got 2100 off msrp in boise, and you can get close to that in Northern California
@@GM-rn8tp I’ve never seen CR-Vs with those discounts, at least in TX where I’m at. Meanwhile, getting a Forester is super easy and the dealers treat you so well. Plus the other thing with Honda is that their trim levels cost more than the Subaru trim levels, and that’s without AWD.
I've owned/leased Subi's ( 3 Outback's and 1 Ascent ) over the last 15 yrs. Subaru's especially with AWD, great mpg's and safety has always been a go to for me. But the Honda's are great car's as well. I've owned an Accord and Ridgeline both stellar vehicle's. In the comparison I actually like the CRV looks way better. Good review/video boys.
So for me the engine comparison is not apples to apples at this point. As they said we'll know more once the Subaru Hybrid comes out. I did purchase the 2024 Subaru forester touring as my retirement vehicle back at the beginning of the year. You really have to not only test drive them, but seriously weigh how it fits you and your daily needs. A friend just purchased the 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport and that also is a very nice choice. For me it boiled down to ease of access and exiting as I am older and hands down for me personally the Forester fit my larger build better and has more comfortable interior with soft touch materials throughout. I knew the 2025 was coming out soon, but wanted the traditional controls and switches the 2024 offered. I'm not a fan of the tablet style or huge screens. The tablet to me is more of an after thought. Our second car is a 2014 Camry Hybrid so I fully have experience and understand the advantages of a Hybrid and for my neighbor he made a great decision. I had that choice as well, but in the end went with what best fit my overall everyday needs. Overall I think these young men did a decent job comparing the two vehicles.
Thank you for your comment. Glad to hear that it appears to be working out well for you. My wife and I are looking to get a 2025 Forester as our retirement vehicle at the beginning of 2025, and it seems to be a perfect fit.
@@tomperconti thanks for the kind words. If you already haven't sat in the vehicle you will notice a number of things. Ease of access and exiting, very comfortable interior, great visibility and the eye sight safety system. Best of luck on your choice and pending retirement.
The Forester’s AWD is the best of the lot for (mild) off-roading, plus being constant full-time it’s AWD is also an active safety system. Combined with its outstanding cabin visibility, the Forester is the safest/best vehicle IMHO.
I like both. I love the styling of the CRV more, but I like how Subaru incorporated more thoughtfulness into its interior design as well as seemingly giving you more bang for the buck on features. Here in NH, both are popular BUT nothing comes between the seniors, college kids, singles, and teachers and their Forester! We get a ton of snow and its of no wonder that we get both of these at the top because of their true mechanical AWD systems.
The beauty of a Subaru isn't found in the technical specifications. It's found in the middle of winter, when you're going up a hill covered in ice and snow and you're waving at the guy who's in a CRV or RAV4 who's stuck in the road spinning his wheels. Yes, there IS a difference in AWD systems.
@@josephshin800 I really believe either vehicle would have been a great choice. Sounds like you did your homework and chose the best option for you. Congratulations and enjoy your new vehicle!
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now… I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it. Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable. At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle. My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
@@jamespatrick5930 I actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead. It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
so many nurses I knew had Subies because they had to get into work even in snow storms That's why I bought a Forester 18 yrs ago and I am still driving it. J.L., R.N. Poughkeepsie, NY
I just own Subaru forester touring, I enjoy the extra goodies that comes with it. Very roomy on the driver side and great starts up. The buying point is satellite included for emergencies and locating my vehicle.
Not sure about anyone else, but I'd never buy a car of any type that lacks a spare tire. The only 2 times I've had a legit flat in my 2004 Accord over the past 20 years, the spare definitely saved me from major expense, hassle, towing and time I would have otherwise had to deal with if I didn't have it. And I'm not even mechanically inclined. I can't believe how dealers will not even offer a spare tire as an option to the ones which don't have it. Totally confused by that. I simply don't understand that business decision. It has to affect sales.
The Honda CRV Hybrid was not designed from the ground up as a hybrid, so they had to force the hybrid into the existing CRV design. For them to make it work, the tire space had to be ditched for the hybrid battery. No, it's not ideal.
Agreed - these are SUVs, some won’t take them further than the local shops, but if you’re going to use them to there potential a full size spare is essential
As a tall and heavy guy that looked at both I can say the Forester feels much roomier and comfortable. Due to the shape of it the Forester even felt roomier inside than some midsize SUVs. I'm loving mine
Just a reminder that the Touring trim of CR-V has more sound deadening. Every other trim level is louder. Also, during the 0-60 test, you can skip the fake shifting by brake torquing first in Sport. The results will be slightly faster without the shifting.
@@vjmtz In the case of the CR-V, eliminating the spare tire isn't a case of "going cheap", it's because the hybrid battery is under the rear deck and takes up the space the tire would need (which is still provided in the gas only versions). If the system used the Toyota-style location of under the rear seat, it wouldn't use up the space needed for the spare, and which is why The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid still has a spare. And since Subaru is going to be adapting the Toyota Hybrid system when they offer it in the Forester, it's likely that it will also use the under the rear seat location and will retain the spare. I agree that, for me, the lack of a spare is a show-stopper for considering a vehicle.
@@KasemChutimataewin I agree... for me, not having a spare (at least the "space saver" temporary) is a show-stopper. And for an SUV, where at least a tiny bit of the appeal is some ability to go "off road", a spare is absolutely mandatory.
Just purchased a 2025 Honda CR-V Sport Touring. Did consider Toyota, and Subaru but it was Honda in the end. The main reason other than the reasons in this video was that there is a very local Honda dealer, which makes maintenance and repairs much easier. That is not to say that there is not a local Subaru dealer, but time is money, and NOT driving that extra distance is important. All I can say about our new Honda CR-V is WOW...!!! The lack of some features compared to the Subaru is not that important, and the Honda is just a spectacular vehicle...
I am going to reserve judgement until the 2025 Hyundai Tucson has been properly reviewed with a driving impression. Despite the resale and lower than expected reliability. I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far.
But I really don't like the information screen that looks like someone has glued a lap top to the dash on the Honda.; and many other car makes. By the way, have had the 2025 Forester for 3 weeks now; really wanted the hybrid but didn't want to wait. So far, loving it!!
So the acoustic side glass on the sport touring makes a small difference over the sport in sound levels not all that significant. I think if they did the rear windows too it would be more significant. I have a 2023 sport touring and still love this car after 26,000 miles.
The CRV hybrid is going to beat the Forester over the typical ownership period in terms of value. The slightly higher upfront cost is more than made up for by cost at the pump savings.
I was on the fence about the both of them about 6 months ago and then I learned that Subaru was going to have a hybrid for the 2025 model. I really want my next car to be a hybrid. I also need a car that can get me out of my area if there are mudslides or snow. I currently drive a 2015 Honda Accord and I want something that can get me past road problems. This is a definite need for my area. The extra off road capability compared to the Honda CRV is a definite plus for me. I feel like Subaru is really hitting it out of the park with it's "minor" features like 360 degree camera and the extra ventilated and heated seats as well as the additional bells and whistles. I feel like Honda is kind of "resting on it's laurels" so to speak on what it is offering on the one of the highest selling cars in this segment. They know it will sell because of their brand loyalty. Honda has only one color for the interior and I definitively do not want a black interior for my southern California climate. At least Subaru is brown with most of the exterior color selections. I'd prefer some sort of light brown or khaki color for both. Subaru does offer black or brown depending on the external color. Honestly, I'm waiting for the hybrid to come out next year for Subaru before I make my final choice. I hope it's not a plug-in hybrid. I do not want to have to install the docking station in my house. If Subaru Forester 2025 has a wilderness trim with a hybrid that I don't need to plug in, then in that case. Shut up and take my money.
Although the Subaru is better looking I chose the CRV. I prefer physical knobs and dials as found in the CRV instead of the giant touchscreen in the Forester. Also the panoramic sunroof found in the Subaru may be subject to leakage and creaking noises down the road. However the full time all wheel drive is outstanding and beats the CRV.
We purchased the CRV Touring Hybrid and I could not get use to the cramped interior.....you can't just go by numbers. The greenhouse effect in the Subaru makes a dull winter day much more enjoyable. I loved the hybrid in the CRV, but most people don't realize that the hybrid does increase you insurance costs. I like the looks of the Forester over the CRV and also the CVT in the 25 Forseter is so smooth as is the ride. We ended up trading the CRV for the Forester......the Forester just fit us to a T. BTW....sit in the Forester and have a look out each window, the CRV has a huge A-pillar...that makes it less safe to drive and see crosswalks, etc.
Subarus are known for their large glass-to-roof aspects, which always helps with visibility and reduced feelings of claustrophobia. Especially so on the Forester, which has been true since the 1st gen.
SUBARU DEALERS CAN'T CHARGE OVER MSRP. IF SUBARU CORPORATE FINDS OUT THE CUT THEIR ALLOCATION OF VEHICLES. FOR A FORESTER YOU WILL USUALLY GET $1,500-$2,000 OFF RIGHT WHEN YOU MAKE A DEAL. THEY ALL DO IT. ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE OTHER SUBARU DEALERSHIPS NEARBY.
For this specific comparison I’d go for CR-V hybrid for the following reasons: 1. Hybrid is a real value (fuel efficiency) vs. lots of options and features that Forester has (Heated back seats, ventilated seats, rear view mirror, and panoramic roof) 2. eCVT in CR-V hybrid is more reliable than Subaru CVT and it’s maintenance free as well.
Forester for us when we replace our Q3 as long as the hybrid offers over 200 hp and torque - the current gas 2.5 is slow, noisy and definitely not premium.
And it's AWD and lower center of gravity help in handling. I drove a '15 Forester 3.6R across the country last summer and was very impressed by the car.
Giving points to the Forester for having a bigger screen and rear view mirror camera seem wild to me. The later is one more electronic thing to break and the former gives a worse experience with needing to use the touch screen for full environmental controls.
I wouldn't choose either. Both are lackluster, to me. Subaru interior looks 15 years old, while the CR-V is very stingy on feature content that the competition has.
I’m still struggling with the hybrid. Cost more + huge expense to one day replace the batteries + mining for materials that make an environment impact + added maintenance. If you invest the money you save with a gasoline engine there is no point the hybrid is going to save money. What I do like is better mpg + hp + sound. I’ll stick with gas engine (non-turbo) for now.
I like the acceleration on the cr-v more with its hybrid power train. However, it's going for about 39k while I see 2025 subaru forester premium trims for about 32k where I live which is significantly cheaper.
I'd go Forester. I'm not a huge fan of hybrid or EV systems as of yet. I'll take practicality and right to repair over that. Both are good cars, one is certainly a better bang for your buck over the other as far as costs go though. The key thing is if you are ok with hybrid/ev systems as they stand now and its pros and cons (specifically if you will utilize those pros over those cons).
@@rachelrachel3007 I have a 2003 Element and would buy another if they still made them. It is THE most practical car ever made! I hate to part with it, but over 200K is getting up there.
@@Dreoc My 2005 Element has over 400k and literally won't die. I've carefully kept up with all its reccomend maintenance. Just recently replaced the air conditioning compressor and one fan...that's it other than regular maintenance. Everything is still original.
Not a fan of the protrude view-blocking tablet screen. Honda copied Subaru's side mirror now installed on the body instead of the glass. I used to sell Subaru in Vancouver Washington, dealer owner has both Subaru and Honda, 98% customers come back to buy Forester after test drove the CRV.
The previous gen Forester will still be for sale in most places for a couple months. If you don't care about the premium features, you can save $4k+ for almost the same vehicle.
From the research i have done the past few days the new AWD CRV’s are not getting anywhere close to the epa highway mileage they supposed to and are averaging 29-31mpg highway and the new foresters with the superior awd systems are easily getting 33-34 highway . I feel like you know what you get with the foresters and they are a very consistent product. Again this was just from researching both vehicles on forums and youtube i think if the crv hybrid is your jam just get the fwd version that one is consistent with its mileage. Also many people overlook that purchasing extended warranty’s are recommended with any hybrid that adds more cost on top of a vehicle that is already more expensive than the forester which negates all savings from purchasing the hybrid model because the mileage is close enough to be considered negligible to most people.I really like the crv but logic is telling me the forester is the better buy
I prefer the CRV. The Forester has some major problems for me. Because of the symmetric all wheel drive tires are a big problem if you get a flat. Do you replace all four tires or buy a new tire and shave it down. The safety systems do not work when you need them the most in heavy fog, rain, snow... The cameras are unable to see. The entire car is too complicated. No person knows what all the lights and features are. For example the sunroof opens automatically to 70% because it makes too much wind noise greater than 70% Entering a pin code by pressing buttons multiple times and listening for the beeps in the front while you are standing at the back of the car.. Putting the key fob into sleep mode to lock it inside the car. Disabling the seat belt alarm by inserting the buckle 20 times within 30 seconds. Special windshield for the cameras that breaks often for $1,000+. The list goes on and on. The Forester is impractical and ridiculous. I have owned 35 cars in my lifetime and currently own my first Subaru a 2024 Forester Limited and I hate it. The steering drives me crazy I constantly have to make small adjustments to keep the care centered in a lane. If I use cruise control and lane centering it does not ping pong but it is like wrestling a bear.
The NA CR-V really is lacking features. The top trim CR-V in my country gets a full digital gauge cluster, and a heads-up display. While starting from the mid-trim level it has a 360 camera.
It may not be appreciated until sitting in it but the CRV has an odd dash design of a black mesh through the vents and passenger area. Can absolutely see that being a magnet for dust, dirt, spills, sneezes that is not easily cleanable and possible damage. Not well thought out at all. Personally I also keep vehicles for a decade+ so I would put more longevity faith in the non-hybrid powertrain. The CVT of either is a bit of concern in that respect, I wish that Subaru still had manuals transmissions available across more of their models but it appears those options are in the history dustbin.
On price comparison almost every Honda dealer includes dealer add ons that will add upwards of several thousand dollars to the price. Subaru dealers I have dealt with don't play that game.
Nice review guys! (both cars are fantastic)..I just would suggest that you could compare them in off road conditions (medium, to basic) also compare the existing crash test reference info. Regards from a forester owner.
Unfortunately Honda is no longer one of the leaders for reliability. Their CVT is far inferior to the Subaru's. They have been having major issues on other models such as the powertrain on the Pilot, Passport, Odesy and Ridgeline. Obviously it's not the power plant used here but they have been slipping big time on quality and reliability across the board. Subaru uses the best CVT technology plus completely refined the 2.4l boxer.
So, how come maintenance cost was not discussed? As far as I know from a friend who has a Subaru said it would be expensive to repair if there was an engine problem
Biggest change is that the oil and CVT/differential fluids have to be changed more often. Oil because their engine seals can degrade and eventually burn oil at like 150-200k mi. CVT and diff fluid changes every 30-40k are needed to keep them good for the life of the vehicle, if they aren't maintained then the cost to replace can total the car.
Forester comes with a Space Saver Spare Tire whereas CRV is equipped with a Tire Repair Kit. This translates to a flatbed lift to the nearest tire repair shop if the CRV has a damaged sidewall or a clean tread face puncture larger than a nail.
Probably forester for me. Standard AWD, cheaper per trim for most trims, and can negotiate. Honda is not a technology masterpiece, and getting a CRV might be a 3 week wait in my area, while Honda dealers treat you horribly. Subaru, I’ve seen them in stock, can negotiate under MSRP, and dealers treat you very well and respectfully.
it is werid that the CRV in the US is not equipped with front fog lights, in almost all asean market CRV it comes with it. And the rear turn signals we get is full led instead of bulb
And for this comparison I'm taking a Honda CRV because I just don't like Subaru. They're not terrible cars. It's just I will pick a Honda CRV because all my mom had was Honda's and Toyotas. So I'm going to pick a Honda CRV due to space not shouting luxury vibes. If I wanted luxury I would have went for the Hyundai Tucson
I drove a CRV and one of the important points for me is that there is very little space in the driver's seat, there is no place to stretch your legs, I would be very surprised at how little space there is, the Subaru has a lot of space, my height is 185 cm
Subaru, you can't trust a Honda transmission. Out west, these Subarus towing cargo trailers all over the place... screw overpriced trucks. Those Subarus also have a nice lift too, the trans axle sits higher in the chassis, and the wheelbase is really good. The CVT transmission is a fail, however.
So many brands are using CVTs. I think it is because they are lighter and the government's fuel economy requirements is causing manufacturers to think lighter weight for every component. Nothing like government's strong-arm requirements to ruin perfect cars/SUVs.
If Honda would just get off its nut and update the ancient and small center screen, and up the interior features (ventilated seats, etc.) there would be a clear winner. But as usual Honda just sits there, behind the curve of everyone else. I don’t get how they are falling so far behind!
Yeah. We are missing HUD, Full Digital Cluster, Seat Ventilation, Panoramic Moonroof, Heated Rear Seats and Standard Window Shades! Come on Honda, The Mazda CX-5 and Hyundai Tucson has all those features, but the CR-V doesn’t. Like, seriously. Honda needs some help.
@@GarlandTexasSpotter2024 I go back to when my friend got a Honda Civic CVCC in the 1970’s (one of those bright yellow ones). And my first Honda I leased was a 2002 Accord EXL (the top trim back then). Honda for decades was known for innovation, value (getting more for your money) and gas mileage. That has not been the case anymore for several years. Sad….
@@FunAtDisney Considering the CR-V is way bigger than a CX-5, Tuson, Outlander and Rogue… This is absolutely unacceptable. It’s a family SUV, for smaller families who don’t need a 3rd row. Honda needs to step up.
@@paulhenry913 The engine in the Forester I believe is perfectly adequate for the car. The 0-60 test people seem to prefer is only a difference of one second. I'm just not convinced yet turbo is the answer long term. Time will eventually tell.
800 mile round trip vacation, 80+mph highways with cross wind blowing through the flat farm fields, full up, luggage to the ceiling, 31.8 mpg for the trip. It's not FAST, but most station wagons aren't. Never had an issue, and never understood the "Oh I can't pass or get up to highway speed in time" statements. Sounds like lack of planning to me.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic We drove to Branson -- the Subie Touring handled the interstates and mountains perfectly well. We got around 33 mpg and I drove 80+ on the interstates. It has absolutely no problem getting up to speed to merge on highways. Our new Forester Touring is truly beautiful, comfortable, and very well equipped. I love the digital rear-view mirror which provides a very clear, very wide view, much better than a traditional rear view mirror. But, if you don't want that, you can turn off the digital rear view and it becomes a standard rear view mirror with automatic dimming. Overall, I think the 25 Forester is difficult to beat in every category. They have outstanding safety, as well. Eyesight has been improved, the seats are more comfortable, as well. I also like the headlights which turn with the steering which gives you great visibility while cornering at night. Just thoughtful features that are included at no extra cost.
They have to be agnostic with reliability because they're comparing new cars Plus, if they went around bashing Kia, do you think they would ever be able to test another Kia? They have to be unbiased.
@@scott8919 It's not unbias to point out Kia's for having terrible reliability and problems, esp when they are very very well documented. So its not bashing. If Kia doesn't like someone being fair and honest, good riddance on them being black listed. Integrity and honesty are important things.
I dislike both suvs! But since the subaru is safer, has ventilated seats and has adpative headlights is a win! But the honda has remote start which is a win as well!
I remote start my Forester with the app on my phone. I can be 500 miles away from my car and remote start it, lock or unlock the doors, adjust the AC/heat, turn on headlights, turn on the alarm, kill the engine, etc. The app really does beat the key fob!
Choose the Forester if you think a spare tire is important on long road trips. The Honda doesn't have space for one so they give you a cheesy 'fix-it-kit'.
I love them both. My thoughts on hybrid. Obviously you have better power. When it comes to cost the hybrid is 2500.00 more. Now during winter months you 3 to 4 mpg because it lacks heater core. Gas engine must run to provide heat. Then trade vehicle in 5 to 6 years it won't matter. If you trade after 10 years your gas engine is say worth 4000.00 your hybrid is worthless or you loose because it needs new batteries. From a cost factor I do not see the value. Tell me if I am wrong.
I would opt for the Subaru Forester if it had an engine that would get it out of its own way. Looking to see what they come up with their hybrid version.
Cant speak to the hybrid, but regular rav4 gets trounced by the crv. RAV4 was crazy loud, very poor driving characteristics, and the worst car interior ive seen in decades. Maybe the hybrid and PHEV addresses all that, and hopefully ill get to test drive those soon before we move on from our old ass escape.
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Was up in the mountains in upstae NY after two feet of snow and mud. I passed a jeep trail hawk with all terrian tires and all his out doorsy garb stuck in thick mud and snow. Some people just don't know how to drive in deep snow. My stock 21 forester sport with Falken wildpeaks saved the day. Subaru Asymmetrical AWD for the win!
We just purchased a 25 Forester Touring, having owned a 21 Forester Touring previously. The 21 Touring was an exceptionally reliable, comfortable SUV. We loved it. The new Touring has added some really nice features (cooled front seats, kick to open the back gate, 360 deg camera view). The seats are even more comfortable than those on the 21 model. We also love that the Forester comes standard with their exceptional 4-wheel drive system. It is hard to beat in bad weather. We love the great ground clearance which helps in deep snow or in off roading.
Another factor to consider is that (at least in my local area) the Forester is in stock and typically selling about $1500-2000 under MSRP, while you might have to wait a few weeks for the privilege of buying the CR-V at a markup over MSRP.
SAME WITH MY DEALER.
PLUS THE SUBARU DEALERS, IN MY AREA, TREAT YOU LIKE FAMILY
Honda crv might have good lease deals, as I’ve seen ok lease deals on them in my area. But for buying, forester is easier.
Buying a CRV, especially Sport L, is easy in most places right now. Roll down to the lots, you’ll see. I got 2100 off msrp in boise, and you can get close to that in Northern California
I wish the Suburu had a Hybrid option for Forester.
@@GM-rn8tp I’ve never seen CR-Vs with those discounts, at least in TX where I’m at. Meanwhile, getting a Forester is super easy and the dealers treat you so well. Plus the other thing with Honda is that their trim levels cost more than the Subaru trim levels, and that’s without AWD.
I've owned/leased Subi's ( 3 Outback's and 1 Ascent ) over the last 15 yrs. Subaru's especially with AWD, great mpg's and safety has always been a go to for me. But the Honda's are great car's as well. I've owned an Accord and Ridgeline both stellar vehicle's. In the comparison I actually like the CRV looks way better. Good review/video boys.
So for me the engine comparison is not apples to apples at this point. As they said we'll know more once the Subaru Hybrid comes out. I did purchase the 2024 Subaru forester touring as my retirement vehicle back at the beginning of the year. You really have to not only test drive them, but seriously weigh how it fits you and your daily needs. A friend just purchased the 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport and that also is a very nice choice. For me it boiled down to ease of access and exiting as I am older and hands down for me personally the Forester fit my larger build better and has more comfortable interior with soft touch materials throughout. I knew the 2025 was coming out soon, but wanted the traditional controls and switches the 2024 offered. I'm not a fan of the tablet style or huge screens. The tablet to me is more of an after thought. Our second car is a 2014 Camry Hybrid so I fully have experience and understand the advantages of a Hybrid and for my neighbor he made a great decision. I had that choice as well, but in the end went with what best fit my overall everyday needs. Overall I think these young men did a decent job comparing the two vehicles.
Thank you for your comment. Glad to hear that it appears to be working out well for you. My wife and I are looking to get a 2025 Forester as our retirement vehicle at the beginning of 2025, and it seems to be a perfect fit.
@@tomperconti thanks for the kind words. If you already haven't sat in the vehicle you will notice a number of things. Ease of access and exiting, very comfortable interior, great visibility and the eye sight safety system. Best of luck on your choice and pending retirement.
Love to hear "wanted the traditional controls and switches". Me too.
The Forester’s AWD is the best of the lot for (mild) off-roading, plus being constant full-time it’s AWD is also an active safety system. Combined with its outstanding cabin visibility, the Forester is the safest/best vehicle IMHO.
recently purchased the 2025 CRV sport touring, and absolutely love it. i think either is really going to be a very solid choice.
great video guys
I would agree - No clear winner or loser, just personal preferences.
Thanks and congrats on your new CR-V!
I like both. I love the styling of the CRV more, but I like how Subaru incorporated more thoughtfulness into its interior design as well as seemingly giving you more bang for the buck on features. Here in NH, both are popular BUT nothing comes between the seniors, college kids, singles, and teachers and their Forester! We get a ton of snow and its of no wonder that we get both of these at the top because of their true mechanical AWD systems.
All that u need with "tons of snow" is a winter tires, even my fwd golf can handle "tons of snow" with proper tires, hello from alberta
The beauty of a Subaru isn't found in the technical specifications. It's found in the middle of winter, when you're going up a hill covered in ice and snow and you're waving at the guy who's in a CRV or RAV4 who's stuck in the road spinning his wheels. Yes, there IS a difference in AWD systems.
Just get a winter tires dude 🤦
Had this dilemma of crv and forester!
Went with crv sport L and I love it so far!!!
@@josephshin800 I really believe either vehicle would have been a great choice. Sounds like you did your homework and chose the best option for you. Congratulations and enjoy your new vehicle!
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now…
I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it.
Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable.
At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle.
My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
I feel the same way
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I actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead.
It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
so many nurses I knew had Subies because they had to get into work even in snow storms That's why I bought a Forester 18 yrs ago and I am still driving it. J.L., R.N. Poughkeepsie, NY
Excellent comparison, I definitely prefer the Forester!
I just own Subaru forester touring, I enjoy the extra goodies that comes with it. Very roomy on the driver side and great starts up. The buying point is satellite included for emergencies and locating my vehicle.
Not sure about anyone else, but I'd never buy a car of any type that lacks a spare tire. The only 2 times I've had a legit flat in my 2004 Accord over the past 20 years, the spare definitely saved me from major expense, hassle, towing and time I would have otherwise had to deal with if I didn't have it. And I'm not even mechanically inclined. I can't believe how dealers will not even offer a spare tire as an option to the ones which don't have it. Totally confused by that. I simply don't understand that business decision. It has to affect sales.
The Honda CRV Hybrid was not designed from the ground up as a hybrid, so they had to force the hybrid into the existing CRV design. For them to make it work, the tire space had to be ditched for the hybrid battery. No, it's not ideal.
Agreed - these are SUVs, some won’t take them further than the local shops, but if you’re going to use them to there potential a full size spare is essential
As a tall and heavy guy that looked at both I can say the Forester feels much roomier and comfortable. Due to the shape of it the Forester even felt roomier inside than some midsize SUVs. I'm loving mine
Just a reminder that the Touring trim of CR-V has more sound deadening. Every other trim level is louder. Also, during the 0-60 test, you can skip the fake shifting by brake torquing first in Sport. The results will be slightly faster without the shifting.
I see the new CRV EVERYWHERE!!! People love it
You don't know how long it will last. All new cars are great, but how long they last?
I like the styling of the CRV as well as the interior design better.
Subie acceleration was sad . All things considered , I'd still go with the Subie with an actual spare tire , better seats & lights .
Man that is definitely one thing to me that hurts the CR-V...as simple and cheap as it is, a spare tire is as basic and essential as seat belts.
@@vjmtz In the case of the CR-V, eliminating the spare tire isn't a case of "going cheap", it's because the hybrid battery is under the rear deck and takes up the space the tire would need (which is still provided in the gas only versions). If the system used the Toyota-style location of under the rear seat, it wouldn't use up the space needed for the spare, and which is why The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid still has a spare. And since Subaru is going to be adapting the Toyota Hybrid system when they offer it in the Forester, it's likely that it will also use the under the rear seat location and will retain the spare. I agree that, for me, the lack of a spare is a show-stopper for considering a vehicle.
@@bill.godwin-austen SUV with no spare tire is very strange.
@@KasemChutimataewin I agree... for me, not having a spare (at least the "space saver" temporary) is a show-stopper. And for an SUV, where at least a tiny bit of the appeal is some ability to go "off road", a spare is absolutely mandatory.
Once Subaru has their hybrid trim then it will make more sense! Also love the new forester looks better imo
I like the Old Style of the Forester better and every New design comes with a little more improvement 👍😃
U just joined seniors club with that forester 😂
I can’t wait for the hybrid forester I wish they’d add it to the outback
CR-V without a doubt...if you don´t want to be in service like home.
Just purchased a 2025 Honda CR-V Sport Touring. Did consider Toyota, and Subaru but it was Honda in the end. The main reason other than the reasons in this video was that there is a very local Honda dealer, which makes maintenance and repairs much easier. That is not to say that there is not a local Subaru dealer, but time is money, and NOT driving that extra distance is important. All I can say about our new Honda CR-V is WOW...!!! The lack of some features compared to the Subaru is not that important, and the Honda is just a spectacular vehicle...
If you live in high altitude or hilly areas, the turbo on the CRV is a big help.
If you live in snowy or gravel/muddy areas, the subaru is a big win
I am going to reserve judgement until the 2025 Hyundai Tucson has been properly reviewed with a driving impression. Despite the resale and lower than expected reliability. I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far.
You need to watch Car Confections review of that Hyundai Tucson. Although I do like the look of it.
But I really don't like the information screen that looks like someone has glued a lap top to the dash on the Honda.; and many other car makes. By the way, have had the 2025 Forester for 3 weeks now; really wanted the hybrid but didn't want to wait. So far, loving it!!
I agree of the weird glued-lap top looking.
I have 24 CRV sport L hybrid and love it. It drives very well for a crossover and it feels like a near luxury car. Can’t go wrong with either though.
So the acoustic side glass on the sport touring makes a small difference over the sport in sound levels not all that significant. I think if they did the rear windows too it would be more significant. I have a 2023 sport touring and still love this car after 26,000 miles.
The CRV hybrid is going to beat the Forester over the typical ownership period in terms of value. The slightly higher upfront cost is more than made up for by cost at the pump savings.
Honda resale value is always top, only compared to Toyota. I would pick CRV.
I was on the fence about the both of them about 6 months ago and then I learned that Subaru was going to have a hybrid for the 2025 model.
I really want my next car to be a hybrid. I also need a car that can get me out of my area if there are mudslides or snow. I currently drive a 2015 Honda Accord and I want something that can get me past road problems. This is a definite need for my area. The extra off road capability compared to the Honda CRV is a definite plus for me.
I feel like Subaru is really hitting it out of the park with it's "minor" features like 360 degree camera and the extra ventilated and heated seats as well as the additional bells and whistles. I feel like Honda is kind of "resting on it's laurels" so to speak on what it is offering on the one of the highest selling cars in this segment. They know it will sell because of their brand loyalty.
Honda has only one color for the interior and I definitively do not want a black interior for my southern California climate. At least Subaru is brown with most of the exterior color selections. I'd prefer some sort of light brown or khaki color for both. Subaru does offer black or brown depending on the external color.
Honestly, I'm waiting for the hybrid to come out next year for Subaru before I make my final choice. I hope it's not a plug-in hybrid. I do not want to have to install the docking station in my house.
If Subaru Forester 2025 has a wilderness trim with a hybrid that I don't need to plug in, then in that case. Shut up and take my money.
Although the Subaru is better looking I chose the CRV. I prefer physical knobs and dials as found in the CRV instead of the giant touchscreen in the Forester. Also the panoramic sunroof found in the Subaru may be subject to leakage and creaking noises down the road. However the full time all wheel drive is outstanding and beats the CRV.
Honda better choice, because more space and have hybrid system
We purchased the CRV Touring Hybrid and I could not get use to the cramped interior.....you can't just go by numbers. The greenhouse effect in the Subaru makes a dull winter day much more enjoyable. I loved the hybrid in the CRV, but most people don't realize that the hybrid does increase you insurance costs. I like the looks of the Forester over the CRV and also the CVT in the 25 Forseter is so smooth as is the ride. We ended up trading the CRV for the Forester......the Forester just fit us to a T. BTW....sit in the Forester and have a look out each window, the CRV has a huge A-pillar...that makes it less safe to drive and see crosswalks, etc.
Subarus are known for their large glass-to-roof aspects, which always helps with visibility and reduced feelings of claustrophobia. Especially so on the Forester, which has been true since the 1st gen.
SUBARU DEALERS CAN'T CHARGE OVER MSRP. IF SUBARU CORPORATE FINDS OUT THE CUT THEIR ALLOCATION OF VEHICLES.
FOR A FORESTER YOU WILL USUALLY GET $1,500-$2,000 OFF RIGHT WHEN YOU MAKE A DEAL. THEY ALL DO IT. ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE OTHER SUBARU DEALERSHIPS NEARBY.
For this specific comparison I’d go for CR-V hybrid for the following reasons:
1. Hybrid is a real value (fuel efficiency) vs. lots of options and features that Forester has (Heated back seats, ventilated seats, rear view mirror, and panoramic roof)
2. eCVT in CR-V hybrid is more reliable than Subaru CVT and it’s maintenance free as well.
A proud owner of the crv hybrid sport amazing vehicle
Awesome job with the video and the comparison. 👍🏽
Thanks! 👍
Forester for us when we replace our Q3 as long as the hybrid offers over 200 hp and torque - the current gas 2.5 is slow, noisy and definitely not premium.
I want more bells and whistles. Idc about power or gas. Subaru is rated safer. Subaru wins it for me.
And it's AWD and lower center of gravity help in handling. I drove a '15 Forester 3.6R across the country last summer and was very impressed by the car.
Well done guys, very informative 👏👏
Why did Honda put exhaust tips in the front of this car?
Probably for the same reason they put their 1.5L engine with a bunch of issues 😂
Giving points to the Forester for having a bigger screen and rear view mirror camera seem wild to me. The later is one more electronic thing to break and the former gives a worse experience with needing to use the touch screen for full environmental controls.
subaru forrester is the best in its segment
I wouldn't choose either. Both are lackluster, to me. Subaru interior looks 15 years old, while the CR-V is very stingy on feature content that the competition has.
I’m still struggling with the hybrid. Cost more + huge expense to one day replace the batteries + mining for materials that make an environment impact + added maintenance. If you invest the money you save with a gasoline engine there is no point the hybrid is going to save money. What I do like is better mpg + hp + sound. I’ll stick with gas engine (non-turbo) for now.
I wanted a Forester but the dealership for Honda is
I feel as Subaru needs to make the screen smaller and add physical climate buttons down below
I had had both and for me CRV ares better
The backside of the CRV is like the kid at school who copied Volvos homework last minute.
Honda wins here❤
I like the acceleration on the cr-v more with its hybrid power train. However, it's going for about 39k while I see 2025 subaru forester premium trims for about 32k where I live which is significantly cheaper.
I'd go Forester. I'm not a huge fan of hybrid or EV systems as of yet. I'll take practicality and right to repair over that. Both are good cars, one is certainly a better bang for your buck over the other as far as costs go though. The key thing is if you are ok with hybrid/ev systems as they stand now and its pros and cons (specifically if you will utilize those pros over those cons).
Honda needs to bring the Element back.
I have a 2005 Element that won't die. Love it! Most useful car I've ever owned.
@@rachelrachel3007 I have a 2003 Element and would buy another if they still made them. It is THE most practical car ever made! I hate to part with it, but over 200K is getting up there.
@@Dreoc My 2005 Element has over 400k and literally won't die. I've carefully kept up with all its reccomend maintenance. Just recently replaced the air conditioning compressor and one fan...that's it other than regular maintenance. Everything is still original.
Not a fan of the protrude view-blocking tablet screen. Honda copied Subaru's side mirror now installed on the body instead of the glass. I used to sell Subaru in Vancouver Washington, dealer owner has both Subaru and Honda, 98% customers come back to buy Forester after test drove the CRV.
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The previous gen Forester will still be for sale in most places for a couple months. If you don't care about the premium features, you can save $4k+ for almost the same vehicle.
From the research i have done the past few days the new AWD CRV’s are not getting anywhere close to the epa highway mileage they supposed to and are averaging 29-31mpg highway and the new foresters with the superior awd systems are easily getting 33-34 highway . I feel like you know what you get with the foresters and they are a very consistent product. Again this was just from researching both vehicles on forums and youtube i think if the crv hybrid is your jam just get the fwd version that one is consistent with its mileage. Also many people overlook that purchasing extended warranty’s are recommended with any hybrid that adds more cost on top of a vehicle that is already more expensive than the forester which negates all savings from purchasing the hybrid model because the mileage is close enough to be considered negligible to most people.I really like the crv but logic is telling me the forester is the better buy
Thank you for the comparison videos, split screens. What’s make/model of vehicle u are sitting in with red seats at the end of the video?
I had the same question. I think it might have been a Forester with the brown trim that looks red.
I prefer the CRV. The Forester has some major problems for me.
Because of the symmetric all wheel drive tires are a big problem if you get a flat. Do you replace all four tires or buy a new tire and shave it down.
The safety systems do not work when you need them the most in heavy fog, rain, snow... The cameras are unable to see.
The entire car is too complicated. No person knows what all the lights and features are. For example the sunroof opens automatically to 70% because it makes too much wind noise greater than 70% Entering a pin code by pressing buttons multiple times and listening for the beeps in the front while you are standing at the back of the car.. Putting the key fob into sleep mode to lock it inside the car. Disabling the seat belt alarm by inserting the buckle 20 times within 30 seconds. Special windshield for the cameras that breaks often for $1,000+. The list goes on and on. The Forester is impractical and ridiculous.
I have owned 35 cars in my lifetime and currently own my first Subaru a 2024 Forester Limited and I hate it. The steering drives me crazy I constantly have to make small adjustments to keep the care centered in a lane. If I use cruise control and lane centering it does not ping pong but it is like wrestling a bear.
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They both are my fave suvs 😊
The NA CR-V really is lacking features. The top trim CR-V in my country gets a full digital gauge cluster, and a heads-up display. While starting from the mid-trim level it has a 360 camera.
It may not be appreciated until sitting in it but the CRV has an odd dash design of a black mesh through the vents and passenger area. Can absolutely see that being a magnet for dust, dirt, spills, sneezes that is not easily cleanable and possible damage. Not well thought out at all. Personally I also keep vehicles for a decade+ so I would put more longevity faith in the non-hybrid powertrain. The CVT of either is a bit of concern in that respect, I wish that Subaru still had manuals transmissions available across more of their models but it appears those options are in the history dustbin.
We just sat in one yesterday while car shopping and my hubby calls it “the cheese grater” 🤣
On price comparison almost every Honda dealer includes dealer add ons that will add upwards of several thousand dollars to the price. Subaru dealers I have dealt with don't play that game.
I have an idea. Hyundai Tucson versus Subaru Forester that would have been a fair comparison would it?
I want comparison between Tuscan and cr-v
Nice review guys! (both cars are fantastic)..I just would suggest that you could compare them in off road conditions (medium, to basic) also compare the existing crash test reference info. Regards from a forester owner.
CRV's half digital gauge cluster is so sick, especially on this top trim
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Crv definitely
Unfortunately Honda is no longer one of the leaders for reliability. Their CVT is far inferior to the Subaru's. They have been having major issues on other models such as the powertrain on the Pilot, Passport, Odesy and Ridgeline. Obviously it's not the power plant used here but they have been slipping big time on quality and reliability across the board. Subaru uses the best CVT technology plus completely refined the 2.4l boxer.
So, how come maintenance cost was not discussed? As far as I know from a friend who has a Subaru said it would be expensive to repair if there was an engine problem
Modern Subarus tend to be very good in short term reliability and just average for long term.
The Subaru CVT maintenance can be very expensive and should probably be done every 40k if you want it to last.
Biggest change is that the oil and CVT/differential fluids have to be changed more often. Oil because their engine seals can degrade and eventually burn oil at like 150-200k mi. CVT and diff fluid changes every 30-40k are needed to keep them good for the life of the vehicle, if they aren't maintained then the cost to replace can total the car.
Forester comes with a Space Saver Spare Tire whereas CRV is equipped with a Tire Repair Kit. This translates to a flatbed lift to the nearest tire repair shop if the CRV has a damaged sidewall or a clean tread face puncture larger than a nail.
Probably forester for me. Standard AWD, cheaper per trim for most trims, and can negotiate. Honda is not a technology masterpiece, and getting a CRV might be a 3 week wait in my area, while Honda dealers treat you horribly. Subaru, I’ve seen them in stock, can negotiate under MSRP, and dealers treat you very well and respectfully.
What car are you in, in the end, with the panoramic sunroof and red seats?
it is werid that the CRV in the US is not equipped with front fog lights, in almost all asean market CRV it comes with it. And the rear turn signals we get is full led instead of bulb
CRV-hybrid shouldn’t have been mentioned in this comparison. The regular CRV vs. the Forester is the ONLY comparison that should have been made.
As stated numerous times, there is no equivalent non-hybrid CRV to the Touring Forester. Forester does not offer a hybrid version yet.
And for this comparison I'm taking a Honda CRV because I just don't like Subaru. They're not terrible cars. It's just I will pick a Honda CRV because all my mom had was Honda's and Toyotas. So I'm going to pick a Honda CRV due to space not shouting luxury vibes. If I wanted luxury I would have went for the Hyundai Tucson
Which one has a softer steering? Thanks
Forester
I drove a CRV and one of the important points for me is that there is very little space in the driver's seat, there is no place to stretch your legs, I would be very surprised at how little space there is, the Subaru has a lot of space, my height is 185 cm
I noticed that too, crv seat is tight and get this I am 5 feet 5 130lbs. My 2007 crv has wider seats.
Can we get a update on the Camry? How's it holding up?How are you guys making out with it?
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I see concerns of seeing the infotainment system in the Subaru Forester. Your thoughts?
Forester Hybrid, when it comes, will 💨 the CR-V
Subaru is a king and Forester is best seller!
Subaru, you can't trust a Honda transmission. Out west, these Subarus towing cargo trailers all over the place... screw overpriced trucks. Those Subarus also have a nice lift too, the trans axle sits higher in the chassis, and the wheelbase is really good. The CVT transmission is a fail, however.
So many brands are using CVTs. I think it is because they are lighter and the government's fuel economy requirements is causing manufacturers to think lighter weight for every component. Nothing like government's strong-arm requirements to ruin perfect cars/SUVs.
Just wondering why the crv doesn’t come with a spare tire? Seems like it’s just being cheap!
If Honda would just get off its nut and update the ancient and small center screen, and up the interior features (ventilated seats, etc.) there would be a clear winner. But as usual Honda just sits there, behind the curve of everyone else. I don’t get how they are falling so far behind!
Yeah. We are missing HUD, Full Digital Cluster, Seat Ventilation, Panoramic Moonroof, Heated Rear Seats and Standard Window Shades! Come on Honda, The Mazda CX-5 and Hyundai Tucson has all those features, but the CR-V doesn’t. Like, seriously. Honda needs some help.
@@GarlandTexasSpotter2024 I go back to when my friend got a Honda Civic CVCC in the 1970’s (one of those bright yellow ones). And my first Honda I leased was a 2002 Accord EXL (the top trim back then). Honda for decades was known for innovation, value (getting more for your money) and gas mileage. That has not been the case anymore for several years. Sad….
@@FunAtDisney Considering the CR-V is way bigger than a CX-5, Tuson, Outlander and Rogue… This is absolutely unacceptable. It’s a family SUV, for smaller families who don’t need a 3rd row. Honda needs to step up.
Really? That engine in the Forester is complete dog. The 1.5 in the CR-V even blows it away. The CR-V looks better and is better engineered.
@@paulhenry913 The engine in the Forester I believe is perfectly adequate for the car. The 0-60 test people seem to prefer is only a difference of one second. I'm just not convinced yet turbo is the answer long term. Time will eventually tell.
YOU NOT RUNNING RACES AND CARVING CORNERS WITH EITHER.
THE SUBARU ENGINE IS JUST FINE FOR WHAT IT IS.
SUBARU BALANCES OUT WHAT YOU GET FOR THE MONEY.
800 mile round trip vacation, 80+mph highways with cross wind blowing through the flat farm fields, full up, luggage to the ceiling, 31.8 mpg for the trip. It's not FAST, but most station wagons aren't. Never had an issue, and never understood the "Oh I can't pass or get up to highway speed in time" statements. Sounds like lack of planning to me.
Also, NA will always be better than a turboed for longevity. Super stressing a motorcycle engine to move a CUV is going to turn out poorly.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic We drove to Branson -- the Subie Touring handled the interstates and mountains perfectly well. We got around 33 mpg and I drove 80+ on the interstates. It has absolutely no problem getting up to speed to merge on highways. Our new Forester Touring is truly beautiful, comfortable, and very well equipped. I love the digital rear-view mirror which provides a very clear, very wide view, much better than a traditional rear view mirror. But, if you don't want that, you can turn off the digital rear view and it becomes a standard rear view mirror with automatic dimming. Overall, I think the 25 Forester is difficult to beat in every category. They have outstanding safety, as well. Eyesight has been improved, the seats are more comfortable, as well. I also like the headlights which turn with the steering which gives you great visibility while cornering at night. Just thoughtful features that are included at no extra cost.
You guys are better than me… No way I could recommend any Kia after the experience you went through. This is a much better car.
They have to be agnostic with reliability because they're comparing new cars Plus, if they went around bashing Kia, do you think they would ever be able to test another Kia? They have to be unbiased.
@@scott8919 It's not unbias to point out Kia's for having terrible reliability and problems, esp when they are very very well documented. So its not bashing. If Kia doesn't like someone being fair and honest, good riddance on them being black listed. Integrity and honesty are important things.
Can we discuss current Toyota reliability and their 300k recalls?
Where in the video that they discussed Kia on a Honda/Subaru comparison?
Just curious, where's the Kia at in the Honda vs. Subaru comparison??
Great Comparison as always! What vehicle are you in at the end of the video?
Thanks! It's the Genesis G80
so youre saying the CRV is as fast off the line as a type r?
I dislike both suvs! But since the subaru is safer, has ventilated seats and has adpative headlights is a win! But the honda has remote start which is a win as well!
I remote start my Forester with the app on my phone. I can be 500 miles away from my car and remote start it, lock or unlock the doors, adjust the AC/heat, turn on headlights, turn on the alarm, kill the engine, etc. The app really does beat the key fob!
Choose the Forester if you think a spare tire is important on long road trips. The Honda doesn't have space for one so they give you a cheesy 'fix-it-kit'.
Tuscon vs competition 😭🙏
Did Honda fix the CRV oil dilution?
I love them both. My thoughts on hybrid. Obviously you have better power. When it comes to cost the hybrid is 2500.00 more. Now during winter months you 3 to 4 mpg because it lacks heater core. Gas engine must run to provide heat. Then trade vehicle in 5 to 6 years it won't matter. If you trade after 10 years your gas engine is say worth 4000.00 your hybrid is worthless or you loose because it needs new batteries. From a cost factor I do not see the value. Tell me if I am wrong.
Lol half a point for key fob remote start for life how do you figure that’s not a whole point?
I would opt for the Subaru Forester if it had an engine that would get it out of its own way. Looking to see what they come up with their hybrid version.
Tucson/Sportage is a wise pick in the segment.
I’ll take the Subie but the Honda is still good.
RAV4 hybrid beats them both No contest.
Only in reliability and durability. Otherwise the Rav4 is really starting to lag the segment.
Cant speak to the hybrid, but regular rav4 gets trounced by the crv. RAV4 was crazy loud, very poor driving characteristics, and the worst car interior ive seen in decades. Maybe the hybrid and PHEV addresses all that, and hopefully ill get to test drive those soon before we move on from our old ass escape.