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Was up in the mountains in upstae NY after two feet of snow and mud. I passed a jeep trail hawk with all terrian tires and all his out doorsy garb stuck in thick mud and snow. Some people just don't know how to drive in deep snow. My stock 21 forester sport with Falken wildpeaks saved the day. Subaru Asymmetrical AWD for the win!
Another factor to consider is that (at least in my local area) the Forester is in stock and typically selling about $1500-2000 under MSRP, while you might have to wait a few weeks for the privilege of buying the CR-V at a markup over MSRP.
Buying a CRV, especially Sport L, is easy in most places right now. Roll down to the lots, you’ll see. I got 2100 off msrp in boise, and you can get close to that in Northern California
@@GM-rn8tp I’ve never seen CR-Vs with those discounts, at least in TX where I’m at. Meanwhile, getting a Forester is super easy and the dealers treat you so well. Plus the other thing with Honda is that their trim levels cost more than the Subaru trim levels, and that’s without AWD.
so many nurses I knew had Subies because they had to get into work even in snow storms That's why I bought a Forester 18 yrs ago and I am still driving it. J.L., R.N. Poughkeepsie, NY
Not far from you in the Berkshires of westerm MA. I have a 2018 Forester. I understand that the Forester is the biggest selling car in western MA. Seems like everyone on my street drives a Subaru.
@@harrisond8132 i love the Berkshires ! I have good friends in Sheffield and love visiting them. (only an hour from me) My Forester may be 18 yrs and 2 months old but my heated seats still work and this old guy appreciates that ! A friend just bought a 2025 Forester and man, those things seem huge compared to mine.
As a tall and heavy guy that looked at both I can say the Forester feels much roomier and comfortable. Due to the shape of it the Forester even felt roomier inside than some midsize SUVs. I'm loving mine
So for me the engine comparison is not apples to apples at this point. As they said we'll know more once the Subaru Hybrid comes out. I did purchase the 2024 Subaru forester touring as my retirement vehicle back at the beginning of the year. You really have to not only test drive them, but seriously weigh how it fits you and your daily needs. A friend just purchased the 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport and that also is a very nice choice. For me it boiled down to ease of access and exiting as I am older and hands down for me personally the Forester fit my larger build better and has more comfortable interior with soft touch materials throughout. I knew the 2025 was coming out soon, but wanted the traditional controls and switches the 2024 offered. I'm not a fan of the tablet style or huge screens. The tablet to me is more of an after thought. Our second car is a 2014 Camry Hybrid so I fully have experience and understand the advantages of a Hybrid and for my neighbor he made a great decision. I had that choice as well, but in the end went with what best fit my overall everyday needs. Overall I think these young men did a decent job comparing the two vehicles.
Thank you for your comment. Glad to hear that it appears to be working out well for you. My wife and I are looking to get a 2025 Forester as our retirement vehicle at the beginning of 2025, and it seems to be a perfect fit.
@@tomperconti thanks for the kind words. If you already haven't sat in the vehicle you will notice a number of things. Ease of access and exiting, very comfortable interior, great visibility and the eye sight safety system. Best of luck on your choice and pending retirement.
I've owned/leased Subi's ( 3 Outback's and 1 Ascent ) over the last 15 yrs. Subaru's especially with AWD, great mpg's and safety has always been a go to for me. But the Honda's are great car's as well. I've owned an Accord and Ridgeline both stellar vehicle's. In the comparison I actually like the CRV looks way better. Good review/video boys.
@@josephshin800 I really believe either vehicle would have been a great choice. Sounds like you did your homework and chose the best option for you. Congratulations and enjoy your new vehicle!
Not sure about anyone else, but I'd never buy a car of any type that lacks a spare tire. The only 2 times I've had a legit flat in my 2004 Accord over the past 20 years, the spare definitely saved me from major expense, hassle, towing and time I would have otherwise had to deal with if I didn't have it. And I'm not even mechanically inclined. I can't believe how dealers will not even offer a spare tire as an option to the ones which don't have it. Totally confused by that. I simply don't understand that business decision. It has to affect sales.
The Honda CRV Hybrid was not designed from the ground up as a hybrid, so they had to force the hybrid into the existing CRV design. For them to make it work, the tire space had to be ditched for the hybrid battery. No, it's not ideal.
Agreed - these are SUVs, some won’t take them further than the local shops, but if you’re going to use them to there potential a full size spare is essential
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now… I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it. Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable. At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle. My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
@@jamespatrick5930 I actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead. It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
Saskatchewan, Canada. Leaning towards the 2WD CRV. Need clearance for snow and especially ruts, but not AWD. Not doing enough daily commuting to benefit from Hybrid mileage in town. Highway mileage is comparable, so why bother?. Don't need the acceleration boost. Anticipate lower total costs of maintenance and repairs, with one drive system rather than two, and with 2WD rather than AWD.. Intending to keep the vehicle for as long as we live. Hoping for 15 years at least. Our 2007 Honda Fit 5 Speed is still going strong. Bring back the Fit! 🙂
Just purchased a 2025 Honda CR-V Sport Touring. Did consider Toyota, and Subaru but it was Honda in the end. The main reason other than the reasons in this video was that there is a very local Honda dealer, which makes maintenance and repairs much easier. That is not to say that there is not a local Subaru dealer, but time is money, and NOT driving that extra distance is important. All I can say about our new Honda CR-V is WOW...!!! The lack of some features compared to the Subaru is not that important, and the Honda is just a spectacular vehicle...
The Forester’s AWD is the best of the lot for (mild) off-roading, plus being constant full-time it’s AWD is also an active safety system. Combined with its outstanding cabin visibility, the Forester is the safest/best vehicle IMHO.
I like both. I love the styling of the CRV more, but I like how Subaru incorporated more thoughtfulness into its interior design as well as seemingly giving you more bang for the buck on features. Here in NH, both are popular BUT nothing comes between the seniors, college kids, singles, and teachers and their Forester! We get a ton of snow and its of no wonder that we get both of these at the top because of their true mechanical AWD systems.
I just own Subaru forester touring, I enjoy the extra goodies that comes with it. Very roomy on the driver side and great starts up. The buying point is satellite included for emergencies and locating my vehicle.
@@vjmtz In the case of the CR-V, eliminating the spare tire isn't a case of "going cheap", it's because the hybrid battery is under the rear deck and takes up the space the tire would need (which is still provided in the gas only versions). If the system used the Toyota-style location of under the rear seat, it wouldn't use up the space needed for the spare, and which is why The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid still has a spare. And since Subaru is going to be adapting the Toyota Hybrid system when they offer it in the Forester, it's likely that it will also use the under the rear seat location and will retain the spare. I agree that, for me, the lack of a spare is a show-stopper for considering a vehicle.
@@KasemChutimataewin I agree... for me, not having a spare (at least the "space saver" temporary) is a show-stopper. And for an SUV, where at least a tiny bit of the appeal is some ability to go "off road", a spare is absolutely mandatory.
Just a reminder that the Touring trim of CR-V has more sound deadening. Every other trim level is louder. Also, during the 0-60 test, you can skip the fake shifting by brake torquing first in Sport. The results will be slightly faster without the shifting.
We just purchased a 25 Forester Touring, having owned a 21 Forester Touring previously. The 21 Touring was an exceptionally reliable, comfortable SUV. We loved it. The new Touring has added some really nice features (cooled front seats, kick to open the back gate, 360 deg camera view). The seats are even more comfortable than those on the 21 model. We also love that the Forester comes standard with their exceptional 4-wheel drive system. It is hard to beat in bad weather. We love the great ground clearance which helps in deep snow or in off roading.
When I drive the 25 Forester, it gets a combined 29 mpg. I drive more aggressively than my wife. She gets a combined 30.4 mpg. I love the touring’s brown leather interior. It feels premium.
I am going to reserve judgement until the 2025 Hyundai Tucson has been properly reviewed with a driving impression. Despite the resale and lower than expected reliability. I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far.
Giving points to the Forester for having a bigger screen and rear view mirror camera seem wild to me. The later is one more electronic thing to break and the former gives a worse experience with needing to use the touch screen for full environmental controls.
So the acoustic side glass on the sport touring makes a small difference over the sport in sound levels not all that significant. I think if they did the rear windows too it would be more significant. I have a 2023 sport touring and still love this car after 26,000 miles.
Although the Subaru is better looking I chose the CRV. I prefer physical knobs and dials as found in the CRV instead of the giant touchscreen in the Forester. Also the panoramic sunroof found in the Subaru may be subject to leakage and creaking noises down the road. However the full time all wheel drive is outstanding and beats the CRV.
You honestly can not go wrong with either car. In this particular case, what wins for you is if you desire a hybrid or not. The Forester hybrid is set to release in May of 2026 and will feature "Toyota technology," so you know it's going to be a solid system. There will surely be interior room compromises in that Forester. To give Honda credit, with this hybrid, they still use a prop shaft AWD rather than Toyotas electric rear motor so the AWD is a bit better. However, Subarus AWD competes for the worlds top 2 spots with the Audi Quattro system. To me, Subarus Symmetrical AWD is the best around and even better with Xmode. Just don't go rock crawling and expect miracles, it wasn't made for that.
Forester for us when we replace our Q3 as long as the hybrid offers over 200 hp and torque - the current gas 2.5 is slow, noisy and definitely not premium.
But I really don't like the information screen that looks like someone has glued a lap top to the dash on the Honda.; and many other car makes. By the way, have had the 2025 Forester for 3 weeks now; really wanted the hybrid but didn't want to wait. So far, loving it!!
The beauty of a Subaru isn't found in the technical specifications. It's found in the middle of winter, when you're going up a hill covered in ice and snow and you're waving at the guy who's in a CRV or RAV4 who's stuck in the road spinning his wheels. Yes, there IS a difference in AWD systems.
The CRV hybrid is going to beat the Forester over the typical ownership period in terms of value. The slightly higher upfront cost is more than made up for by cost at the pump savings.
After watching this video & reading all the comments. Deciding what to get for my daily driver car. 80ml round trip for work.My thoughts on a Subaru Forester.Just sharing. - No one mentioned about where this cars are made. 2025 Subaru forester in USA are all made and built in Japan. -That’s one thing keeps Forester top for me. I maintain all my car’s 5th gen 4Runner & my 10th gen Honda Civic sport touring for 6 yrs. Now and both have 80k ml., in very good running condition. -MY Honda civic has no Lombard support.Having a back pain driving every day 80-100 ml a day. It has a turbo I need to change oil every 3-4k miles.trans oil. Drain and fill every 30k ml.. Scotty Kilmer & Car care nut recommendation(you tube mechanics diy vlogers, & it’s made in U.K -My 4runner is a 2015 & is made in Japan. 5k miles oil change, oh man this truck has a bullet proof engine! Full time AWD & a 4x4. We went a couple of times in the Lake Tahoe for my kids to play for snow and don’t need the 4x4 with the 21” of snow. It handles perfectly just with the AWD system. -As a DIY for 6 yrs now and done all the service maintenance of my cars and had a friend who is working as a chief mechanic and he is my mentor for fixing cars and close friend And all the reachers and watching YT at my extra free time. If your car is made is japan it will last forever if you maintain it well. -Hybrids are expensive to maintain and parts are not cheap than a regular engine. Scotty and car care nut & my Chief mechanic friend all of them are not fun of a turbo engines & secondly Honda CRV’s engine same as my civic has small engine 1.5 liter turbo with a CVT trans. Car and SUV has the same engine?😮 if you have a turbo this is what I learn, 4-5mins warm up & 2-3mins. Cool down when I used it for work. bec. Of the turbo engine oil flows inside that needs to warm up and cool down to extend it’s life. Scotty says Subaru surpass Toyota and I am afraid!😂 Best of luck for all buyer’s. & thank you for reading. I’m confident that Subaru will not disappoint me. I’m keeping this one for the rest of it’s life I hope!😊My personal choice is Subaru this time.
2025 Forester Touring does NOT offer an interior mirror that has Homelink (to open/close garage). There were so many complaints Subaru says they will now sell you an Ascent mirror with Homelink and install it into 2025 Forester Touring for $763. ($763!!!).
I was on the fence about the both of them about 6 months ago and then I learned that Subaru was going to have a hybrid for the 2025 model. I really want my next car to be a hybrid. I also need a car that can get me out of my area if there are mudslides or snow. I currently drive a 2015 Honda Accord and I want something that can get me past road problems. This is a definite need for my area. The extra off road capability compared to the Honda CRV is a definite plus for me. I feel like Subaru is really hitting it out of the park with it's "minor" features like 360 degree camera and the extra ventilated and heated seats as well as the additional bells and whistles. I feel like Honda is kind of "resting on it's laurels" so to speak on what it is offering on the one of the highest selling cars in this segment. They know it will sell because of their brand loyalty. Honda has only one color for the interior and I definitively do not want a black interior for my southern California climate. At least Subaru is brown with most of the exterior color selections. I'd prefer some sort of light brown or khaki color for both. Subaru does offer black or brown depending on the external color. Honestly, I'm waiting for the hybrid to come out next year for Subaru before I make my final choice. I hope it's not a plug-in hybrid. I do not want to have to install the docking station in my house. If Subaru Forester 2025 has a wilderness trim with a hybrid that I don't need to plug in, then in that case. Shut up and take my money.
The NA CR-V really is lacking features. The top trim CR-V in my country gets a full digital gauge cluster, and a heads-up display. While starting from the mid-trim level it has a 360 camera.
I’m still struggling with the hybrid. Cost more + huge expense to one day replace the batteries + mining for materials that make an environment impact + added maintenance. If you invest the money you save with a gasoline engine there is no point the hybrid is going to save money. What I do like is better mpg + hp + sound. I’ll stick with gas engine (non-turbo) for now.
I'm a long time Subaru owner. I now own a 2018 Forester and it has had zero issues. It's a great car. I really don't like the styling of the 2025 however. The front end is too high. It looks like a Ford Explorer.
I wouldn't choose either. Both are lackluster, to me. Subaru interior looks 15 years old, while the CR-V is very stingy on feature content that the competition has.
And it's AWD and lower center of gravity help in handling. I drove a '15 Forester 3.6R across the country last summer and was very impressed by the car.
The previous gen Forester will still be for sale in most places for a couple months. If you don't care about the premium features, you can save $4k+ for almost the same vehicle.
I like the acceleration on the cr-v more with its hybrid power train. However, it's going for about 39k while I see 2025 subaru forester premium trims for about 32k where I live which is significantly cheaper.
I like your comparison videos. Though you presented a caveat in this video, I think comparing a hybrid to a non hybrid is not giving a fair comparison in some sections of the video. Unless you were asked to do this comparison, I feel you should have waited for Subaru Hybrid or used the non hybrid CR V. I think you already know this, I just did not understand why/purpose this comparison was done. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! We will definitely do this comparison again when the Forester Hybrid finally joins the lineup (no word on that yet). But in the meantime, it's important for people to understand that these are the powertrains available to them on the top half of the trims.
So, how come maintenance cost was not discussed? As far as I know from a friend who has a Subaru said it would be expensive to repair if there was an engine problem
Biggest change is that the oil and CVT/differential fluids have to be changed more often. Oil because their engine seals can degrade and eventually burn oil at like 150-200k mi. CVT and diff fluid changes every 30-40k are needed to keep them good for the life of the vehicle, if they aren't maintained then the cost to replace can total the car.
In Canada Forester Limited 2025 and Outback Limited 2025 have exactly SAME PRICE. Which one is better? Both are one level below top Touring Trims. And come with standard engine. Which is a better car for city and highway driving for a family of 4, we never do off roading… …
It may not be appreciated until sitting in it but the CRV has an odd dash design of a black mesh through the vents and passenger area. Can absolutely see that being a magnet for dust, dirt, spills, sneezes that is not easily cleanable and possible damage. Not well thought out at all. Personally I also keep vehicles for a decade+ so I would put more longevity faith in the non-hybrid powertrain. The CVT of either is a bit of concern in that respect, I wish that Subaru still had manuals transmissions available across more of their models but it appears those options are in the history dustbin.
I'd go Forester. I'm not a huge fan of hybrid or EV systems as of yet. I'll take practicality and right to repair over that. Both are good cars, one is certainly a better bang for your buck over the other as far as costs go though. The key thing is if you are ok with hybrid/ev systems as they stand now and its pros and cons (specifically if you will utilize those pros over those cons).
@@rachelrachel3007 I have a 2003 Element and would buy another if they still made them. It is THE most practical car ever made! I hate to part with it, but over 200K is getting up there.
@@Dreoc My 2005 Element has over 400k and literally won't die. I've carefully kept up with all its reccomend maintenance. Just recently replaced the air conditioning compressor and one fan...that's it other than regular maintenance. Everything is still original.
We purchased the CRV Touring Hybrid and I could not get use to the cramped interior.....you can't just go by numbers. The greenhouse effect in the Subaru makes a dull winter day much more enjoyable. I loved the hybrid in the CRV, but most people don't realize that the hybrid does increase you insurance costs. I like the looks of the Forester over the CRV and also the CVT in the 25 Forseter is so smooth as is the ride. We ended up trading the CRV for the Forester......the Forester just fit us to a T. BTW....sit in the Forester and have a look out each window, the CRV has a huge A-pillar...that makes it less safe to drive and see crosswalks, etc.
Subarus are known for their large glass-to-roof aspects, which always helps with visibility and reduced feelings of claustrophobia. Especially so on the Forester, which has been true since the 1st gen.
SUBARU DEALERS CAN'T CHARGE OVER MSRP. IF SUBARU CORPORATE FINDS OUT THE CUT THEIR ALLOCATION OF VEHICLES. FOR A FORESTER YOU WILL USUALLY GET $1,500-$2,000 OFF RIGHT WHEN YOU MAKE A DEAL. THEY ALL DO IT. ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE OTHER SUBARU DEALERSHIPS NEARBY.
it is werid that the CRV in the US is not equipped with front fog lights, in almost all asean market CRV it comes with it. And the rear turn signals we get is full led instead of bulb
For this specific comparison I’d go for CR-V hybrid for the following reasons: 1. Hybrid is a real value (fuel efficiency) vs. lots of options and features that Forester has (Heated back seats, ventilated seats, rear view mirror, and panoramic roof) 2. eCVT in CR-V hybrid is more reliable than Subaru CVT and it’s maintenance free as well.
From the research i have done the past few days the new AWD CRV’s are not getting anywhere close to the epa highway mileage they supposed to and are averaging 29-31mpg highway and the new foresters with the superior awd systems are easily getting 33-34 highway . I feel like you know what you get with the foresters and they are a very consistent product. Again this was just from researching both vehicles on forums and youtube i think if the crv hybrid is your jam just get the fwd version that one is consistent with its mileage. Also many people overlook that purchasing extended warranty’s are recommended with any hybrid that adds more cost on top of a vehicle that is already more expensive than the forester which negates all savings from purchasing the hybrid model because the mileage is close enough to be considered negligible to most people.I really like the crv but logic is telling me the forester is the better buy
If you're going to give the hybrid model the nod for power and engine than you have to compensate that on the price point. Your pricing was not for a hybrid model.
I prefer the CRV. The Forester has some major problems for me. Because of the symmetric all wheel drive tires are a big problem if you get a flat. Do you replace all four tires or buy a new tire and shave it down. The safety systems do not work when you need them the most in heavy fog, rain, snow... The cameras are unable to see. The entire car is too complicated. No person knows what all the lights and features are. For example the sunroof opens automatically to 70% because it makes too much wind noise greater than 70% Entering a pin code by pressing buttons multiple times and listening for the beeps in the front while you are standing at the back of the car.. Putting the key fob into sleep mode to lock it inside the car. Disabling the seat belt alarm by inserting the buckle 20 times within 30 seconds. Special windshield for the cameras that breaks often for $1,000+. The list goes on and on. The Forester is impractical and ridiculous. I have owned 35 cars in my lifetime and currently own my first Subaru a 2024 Forester Limited and I hate it. The steering drives me crazy I constantly have to make small adjustments to keep the care centered in a lane. If I use cruise control and lane centering it does not ping pong but it is like wrestling a bear.
Unfortunately Honda is no longer one of the leaders for reliability. Their CVT is far inferior to the Subaru's. They have been having major issues on other models such as the powertrain on the Pilot, Passport, Odesy and Ridgeline. Obviously it's not the power plant used here but they have been slipping big time on quality and reliability across the board. Subaru uses the best CVT technology plus completely refined the 2.4l boxer.
On price comparison almost every Honda dealer includes dealer add ons that will add upwards of several thousand dollars to the price. Subaru dealers I have dealt with don't play that game.
Probably forester for me. Standard AWD, cheaper per trim for most trims, and can negotiate. Honda is not a technology masterpiece, and getting a CRV might be a 3 week wait in my area, while Honda dealers treat you horribly. Subaru, I’ve seen them in stock, can negotiate under MSRP, and dealers treat you very well and respectfully.
Nice review guys! (both cars are fantastic)..I just would suggest that you could compare them in off road conditions (medium, to basic) also compare the existing crash test reference info. Regards from a forester owner.
Subaru, you can't trust a Honda transmission. Out west, these Subarus towing cargo trailers all over the place... screw overpriced trucks. Those Subarus also have a nice lift too, the trans axle sits higher in the chassis, and the wheelbase is really good. The CVT transmission is a fail, however.
So many brands are using CVTs. I think it is because they are lighter and the government's fuel economy requirements is causing manufacturers to think lighter weight for every component. Nothing like government's strong-arm requirements to ruin perfect cars/SUVs.
Subaru has been a mystery to me. Consumer Reports polls Subaru as recently being more reliable than Honda or Toyota. When I speak to mechanics, I was told transmission, head gasket, difficulty in routine service access & to stay away. Contradictory!
Forester comes with a Space Saver Spare Tire whereas CRV is equipped with a Tire Repair Kit. This translates to a flatbed lift to the nearest tire repair shop if the CRV has a damaged sidewall or a clean tread face puncture larger than a nail.
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Was up in the mountains in upstae NY after two feet of snow and mud. I passed a jeep trail hawk with all terrian tires and all his out doorsy garb stuck in thick mud and snow. Some people just don't know how to drive in deep snow. My stock 21 forester sport with Falken wildpeaks saved the day. Subaru Asymmetrical AWD for the win!
I hope you gave him a Rubber Duckie bathtub toy to put on top of his dashboard, as that is very important to Jeepers.
Another factor to consider is that (at least in my local area) the Forester is in stock and typically selling about $1500-2000 under MSRP, while you might have to wait a few weeks for the privilege of buying the CR-V at a markup over MSRP.
SAME WITH MY DEALER.
PLUS THE SUBARU DEALERS, IN MY AREA, TREAT YOU LIKE FAMILY
Honda crv might have good lease deals, as I’ve seen ok lease deals on them in my area. But for buying, forester is easier.
Buying a CRV, especially Sport L, is easy in most places right now. Roll down to the lots, you’ll see. I got 2100 off msrp in boise, and you can get close to that in Northern California
I wish the Suburu had a Hybrid option for Forester.
@@GM-rn8tp I’ve never seen CR-Vs with those discounts, at least in TX where I’m at. Meanwhile, getting a Forester is super easy and the dealers treat you so well. Plus the other thing with Honda is that their trim levels cost more than the Subaru trim levels, and that’s without AWD.
so many nurses I knew had Subies because they had to get into work even in snow storms That's why I bought a Forester 18 yrs ago and I am still driving it. J.L., R.N. Poughkeepsie, NY
Not far from you in the Berkshires of westerm MA. I have a 2018 Forester. I understand that the Forester is the biggest selling car in western MA. Seems like everyone on my street drives a Subaru.
@@harrisond8132 i love the Berkshires ! I have good friends in Sheffield and love visiting them. (only an hour from me) My Forester may be 18 yrs and 2 months old but my heated seats still work and this old guy appreciates that ! A friend just bought a 2025 Forester and man, those things seem huge compared to mine.
As a tall and heavy guy that looked at both I can say the Forester feels much roomier and comfortable. Due to the shape of it the Forester even felt roomier inside than some midsize SUVs. I'm loving mine
So for me the engine comparison is not apples to apples at this point. As they said we'll know more once the Subaru Hybrid comes out. I did purchase the 2024 Subaru forester touring as my retirement vehicle back at the beginning of the year. You really have to not only test drive them, but seriously weigh how it fits you and your daily needs. A friend just purchased the 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport and that also is a very nice choice. For me it boiled down to ease of access and exiting as I am older and hands down for me personally the Forester fit my larger build better and has more comfortable interior with soft touch materials throughout. I knew the 2025 was coming out soon, but wanted the traditional controls and switches the 2024 offered. I'm not a fan of the tablet style or huge screens. The tablet to me is more of an after thought. Our second car is a 2014 Camry Hybrid so I fully have experience and understand the advantages of a Hybrid and for my neighbor he made a great decision. I had that choice as well, but in the end went with what best fit my overall everyday needs. Overall I think these young men did a decent job comparing the two vehicles.
Thank you for your comment. Glad to hear that it appears to be working out well for you. My wife and I are looking to get a 2025 Forester as our retirement vehicle at the beginning of 2025, and it seems to be a perfect fit.
@@tomperconti thanks for the kind words. If you already haven't sat in the vehicle you will notice a number of things. Ease of access and exiting, very comfortable interior, great visibility and the eye sight safety system. Best of luck on your choice and pending retirement.
Love to hear "wanted the traditional controls and switches". Me too.
recently purchased the 2025 CRV sport touring, and absolutely love it. i think either is really going to be a very solid choice.
great video guys
I would agree - No clear winner or loser, just personal preferences.
Thanks and congrats on your new CR-V!
I've owned/leased Subi's ( 3 Outback's and 1 Ascent ) over the last 15 yrs. Subaru's especially with AWD, great mpg's and safety has always been a go to for me. But the Honda's are great car's as well. I've owned an Accord and Ridgeline both stellar vehicle's. In the comparison I actually like the CRV looks way better. Good review/video boys.
Had this dilemma of crv and forester!
Went with crv sport L and I love it so far!!!
@@josephshin800 I really believe either vehicle would have been a great choice. Sounds like you did your homework and chose the best option for you. Congratulations and enjoy your new vehicle!
Not sure about anyone else, but I'd never buy a car of any type that lacks a spare tire. The only 2 times I've had a legit flat in my 2004 Accord over the past 20 years, the spare definitely saved me from major expense, hassle, towing and time I would have otherwise had to deal with if I didn't have it. And I'm not even mechanically inclined. I can't believe how dealers will not even offer a spare tire as an option to the ones which don't have it. Totally confused by that. I simply don't understand that business decision. It has to affect sales.
The Honda CRV Hybrid was not designed from the ground up as a hybrid, so they had to force the hybrid into the existing CRV design. For them to make it work, the tire space had to be ditched for the hybrid battery. No, it's not ideal.
Agreed - these are SUVs, some won’t take them further than the local shops, but if you’re going to use them to there potential a full size spare is essential
Had my 2025Forester now for about 10 days now…
I find the lane centering to be way too aggressive at highway speeds as well on city streets and had to disengage it.
Also I find the steering wheel controls to be placed in such a way that my hands always have to be on top of the steering wheel to be comfortable.
At highway speeds I actually was concerned driving it being the steering is so tight that with the slightest movement I felt like I was losing control of the vehicle.
My 1st Subaru and going to have to get used to its nuances…Feels like the thing has a mind of its own. All the features they offered sounded like a good thing, but I fear it may just be too much, giving too much control to the car’s computer rather than allowing me to decide how I want to drive … Only time will tell if it’s a keeper.
I feel the same way
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I actually am starting to like it alot, that is once I figured out what features I wanted on and which ones I didn’t. Keep in mind I was coming from a previous car with a wider wheel base and certainly can tell the difference. If I had it all to do again I would purchase a loaded Outback instead.
It’s a great car, just make sure you purchase the Extended Warranty & Maintenance Plans FROM SUBARU, with ZERO Deductible. I didn’t realize how much maintenance & upkeep as well as the expense is really required with a Subaru, just make sure you keep up with it and you shouldn’t have any issues, it appears to be very dependable and if you keep up with the required maintenance you’ll no doubt have the car for a very long time and probably end up buying another Subaru when you’re done with this one.
Lane centering issue you mean the continuous battle from both sides to keep the vehicle in the center of the lane? 😂
Saskatchewan, Canada. Leaning towards the 2WD CRV. Need clearance for snow and especially ruts, but not AWD. Not doing enough daily commuting to benefit from Hybrid mileage in town. Highway mileage is comparable, so why bother?. Don't need the acceleration boost. Anticipate lower total costs of maintenance and repairs, with one drive system rather than two, and with 2WD rather than AWD.. Intending to keep the vehicle for as long as we live. Hoping for 15 years at least. Our 2007 Honda Fit 5 Speed is still going strong. Bring back the Fit! 🙂
Just purchased a 2025 Honda CR-V Sport Touring. Did consider Toyota, and Subaru but it was Honda in the end. The main reason other than the reasons in this video was that there is a very local Honda dealer, which makes maintenance and repairs much easier. That is not to say that there is not a local Subaru dealer, but time is money, and NOT driving that extra distance is important. All I can say about our new Honda CR-V is WOW...!!! The lack of some features compared to the Subaru is not that important, and the Honda is just a spectacular vehicle...
The Forester’s AWD is the best of the lot for (mild) off-roading, plus being constant full-time it’s AWD is also an active safety system. Combined with its outstanding cabin visibility, the Forester is the safest/best vehicle IMHO.
I like both. I love the styling of the CRV more, but I like how Subaru incorporated more thoughtfulness into its interior design as well as seemingly giving you more bang for the buck on features. Here in NH, both are popular BUT nothing comes between the seniors, college kids, singles, and teachers and their Forester! We get a ton of snow and its of no wonder that we get both of these at the top because of their true mechanical AWD systems.
All that u need with "tons of snow" is a winter tires, even my fwd golf can handle "tons of snow" with proper tires, hello from alberta
I just own Subaru forester touring, I enjoy the extra goodies that comes with it. Very roomy on the driver side and great starts up. The buying point is satellite included for emergencies and locating my vehicle.
Subie acceleration was sad . All things considered , I'd still go with the Subie with an actual spare tire , better seats & lights .
Man that is definitely one thing to me that hurts the CR-V...as simple and cheap as it is, a spare tire is as basic and essential as seat belts.
@@vjmtz In the case of the CR-V, eliminating the spare tire isn't a case of "going cheap", it's because the hybrid battery is under the rear deck and takes up the space the tire would need (which is still provided in the gas only versions). If the system used the Toyota-style location of under the rear seat, it wouldn't use up the space needed for the spare, and which is why The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid still has a spare. And since Subaru is going to be adapting the Toyota Hybrid system when they offer it in the Forester, it's likely that it will also use the under the rear seat location and will retain the spare. I agree that, for me, the lack of a spare is a show-stopper for considering a vehicle.
@@bill.godwin-austen SUV with no spare tire is very strange.
@@KasemChutimataewin I agree... for me, not having a spare (at least the "space saver" temporary) is a show-stopper. And for an SUV, where at least a tiny bit of the appeal is some ability to go "off road", a spare is absolutely mandatory.
Just a reminder that the Touring trim of CR-V has more sound deadening. Every other trim level is louder. Also, during the 0-60 test, you can skip the fake shifting by brake torquing first in Sport. The results will be slightly faster without the shifting.
Excellent comparison, I definitely prefer the Forester!
We just purchased a 25 Forester Touring, having owned a 21 Forester Touring previously. The 21 Touring was an exceptionally reliable, comfortable SUV. We loved it. The new Touring has added some really nice features (cooled front seats, kick to open the back gate, 360 deg camera view). The seats are even more comfortable than those on the 21 model. We also love that the Forester comes standard with their exceptional 4-wheel drive system. It is hard to beat in bad weather. We love the great ground clearance which helps in deep snow or in off roading.
I’m looking to buy a forester but I drive about 45 to an hour to my job. How the fuel mileage
When I drive the 25 Forester, it gets a combined 29 mpg. I drive more aggressively than my wife. She gets a combined 30.4 mpg. I love the touring’s brown leather interior. It feels premium.
I feel as Subaru needs to make the screen smaller and add physical climate buttons down below
If you live in high altitude or hilly areas, the turbo on the CRV is a big help.
If you live in snowy or gravel/muddy areas, the subaru is a big win
I like the styling of the CRV as well as the interior design better.
I am going to reserve judgement until the 2025 Hyundai Tucson has been properly reviewed with a driving impression. Despite the resale and lower than expected reliability. I'm really impressed with what I've seen so far.
You need to watch Car Confections review of that Hyundai Tucson. Although I do like the look of it.
Why did Honda put exhaust tips in the front of this car?
Probably for the same reason they put their 1.5L engine with a bunch of issues 😂
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Giving points to the Forester for having a bigger screen and rear view mirror camera seem wild to me. The later is one more electronic thing to break and the former gives a worse experience with needing to use the touch screen for full environmental controls.
So the acoustic side glass on the sport touring makes a small difference over the sport in sound levels not all that significant. I think if they did the rear windows too it would be more significant. I have a 2023 sport touring and still love this car after 26,000 miles.
Although the Subaru is better looking I chose the CRV. I prefer physical knobs and dials as found in the CRV instead of the giant touchscreen in the Forester. Also the panoramic sunroof found in the Subaru may be subject to leakage and creaking noises down the road. However the full time all wheel drive is outstanding and beats the CRV.
You honestly can not go wrong with either car. In this particular case, what wins for you is if you desire a hybrid or not. The Forester hybrid is set to release in May of 2026 and will feature "Toyota technology," so you know it's going to be a solid system. There will surely be interior room compromises in that Forester.
To give Honda credit, with this hybrid, they still use a prop shaft AWD rather than Toyotas electric rear motor so the AWD is a bit better. However, Subarus AWD competes for the worlds top 2 spots with the Audi Quattro system. To me, Subarus Symmetrical AWD is the best around and even better with Xmode. Just don't go rock crawling and expect miracles, it wasn't made for that.
Forester for us when we replace our Q3 as long as the hybrid offers over 200 hp and torque - the current gas 2.5 is slow, noisy and definitely not premium.
But I really don't like the information screen that looks like someone has glued a lap top to the dash on the Honda.; and many other car makes. By the way, have had the 2025 Forester for 3 weeks now; really wanted the hybrid but didn't want to wait. So far, loving it!!
I agree of the weird glued-lap top looking.
The beauty of a Subaru isn't found in the technical specifications. It's found in the middle of winter, when you're going up a hill covered in ice and snow and you're waving at the guy who's in a CRV or RAV4 who's stuck in the road spinning his wheels. Yes, there IS a difference in AWD systems.
Just get a winter tires dude 🤦
The CRV hybrid is going to beat the Forester over the typical ownership period in terms of value. The slightly higher upfront cost is more than made up for by cost at the pump savings.
Honda resale value is always top, only compared to Toyota. I would pick CRV.
I see the new CRV EVERYWHERE!!! People love it
You don't know how long it will last. All new cars are great, but how long they last?
I wanted a Forester but the dealership for Honda is
Honda better choice, because more space and have hybrid system
Awesome job with the video and the comparison. 👍🏽
Thanks! 👍
After watching this video & reading all the comments. Deciding what to get for my daily driver car. 80ml round trip for work.My thoughts on a Subaru Forester.Just sharing.
- No one mentioned about where this cars are made. 2025 Subaru forester in USA are all made and built in Japan.
-That’s one thing keeps Forester top for me. I maintain all my car’s 5th gen 4Runner & my 10th gen Honda Civic sport touring for 6 yrs. Now and both have 80k ml., in very good running condition.
-MY Honda civic has no Lombard support.Having a back pain driving every day 80-100 ml a day. It has a turbo I need to change oil every 3-4k miles.trans oil. Drain and fill every 30k ml.. Scotty Kilmer & Car care nut recommendation(you tube mechanics diy vlogers, & it’s made in U.K
-My 4runner is a 2015 & is made in Japan. 5k miles oil change, oh man this truck has a bullet proof engine! Full time AWD & a 4x4. We went a couple of times in the Lake Tahoe for my kids to play for snow and don’t need the 4x4 with the 21” of snow. It handles perfectly just with the AWD system.
-As a DIY for 6 yrs now and done all the service maintenance of my cars and had a friend who is working as a chief mechanic and he is my mentor for fixing cars and close friend
And all the reachers and watching YT at my extra free time. If your car is made is japan it will last forever if you maintain it well.
-Hybrids are expensive to maintain and parts are not cheap than a regular engine. Scotty and car care nut & my Chief mechanic friend all of them are not fun of a turbo engines & secondly Honda CRV’s engine same as my civic has small engine 1.5 liter turbo with a CVT trans. Car and SUV has the same engine?😮 if you have a turbo this is what I learn, 4-5mins warm up & 2-3mins. Cool down when I used it for work. bec. Of the turbo engine oil flows inside that needs to warm up and cool down to extend it’s life.
Scotty says Subaru surpass Toyota and I am afraid!😂
Best of luck for all buyer’s. & thank you for reading. I’m confident that Subaru will not disappoint me. I’m keeping this one for the rest of it’s life I hope!😊My personal choice is Subaru this time.
CR-V without a doubt...if you don´t want to be in service like home.
2025 Forester Touring does NOT offer an interior mirror that has Homelink (to open/close garage). There were so many complaints Subaru says they will now sell you an Ascent mirror with Homelink and install it into 2025 Forester Touring for $763. ($763!!!).
I was on the fence about the both of them about 6 months ago and then I learned that Subaru was going to have a hybrid for the 2025 model.
I really want my next car to be a hybrid. I also need a car that can get me out of my area if there are mudslides or snow. I currently drive a 2015 Honda Accord and I want something that can get me past road problems. This is a definite need for my area. The extra off road capability compared to the Honda CRV is a definite plus for me.
I feel like Subaru is really hitting it out of the park with it's "minor" features like 360 degree camera and the extra ventilated and heated seats as well as the additional bells and whistles. I feel like Honda is kind of "resting on it's laurels" so to speak on what it is offering on the one of the highest selling cars in this segment. They know it will sell because of their brand loyalty.
Honda has only one color for the interior and I definitively do not want a black interior for my southern California climate. At least Subaru is brown with most of the exterior color selections. I'd prefer some sort of light brown or khaki color for both. Subaru does offer black or brown depending on the external color.
Honestly, I'm waiting for the hybrid to come out next year for Subaru before I make my final choice. I hope it's not a plug-in hybrid. I do not want to have to install the docking station in my house.
If Subaru Forester 2025 has a wilderness trim with a hybrid that I don't need to plug in, then in that case. Shut up and take my money.
Well done guys, very informative 👏👏
The NA CR-V really is lacking features. The top trim CR-V in my country gets a full digital gauge cluster, and a heads-up display. While starting from the mid-trim level it has a 360 camera.
In EU we got new Subaru forester hybrid, only MHEV hybrid, not full, not PHEV. But we lost a lot of HP. Only 136HP, and you have 180.
I have 24 CRV sport L hybrid and love it. It drives very well for a crossover and it feels like a near luxury car. Can’t go wrong with either though.
I’m still struggling with the hybrid. Cost more + huge expense to one day replace the batteries + mining for materials that make an environment impact + added maintenance. If you invest the money you save with a gasoline engine there is no point the hybrid is going to save money. What I do like is better mpg + hp + sound. I’ll stick with gas engine (non-turbo) for now.
Love your car video
I'm a long time Subaru owner. I now own a 2018 Forester and it has had zero issues. It's a great car. I really don't like the styling of the 2025 however. The front end is too high. It looks like a Ford Explorer.
I have an idea. Hyundai Tucson versus Subaru Forester that would have been a fair comparison would it?
Which vehicle had the larger front space for taller people?
Could you do a segment for me on which is a good Luxury car 14:26
Once Subaru has their hybrid trim then it will make more sense! Also love the new forester looks better imo
I like the Old Style of the Forester better and every New design comes with a little more improvement 👍😃
U just joined seniors club with that forester 😂
I can’t wait for the hybrid forester I wish they’d add it to the outback
I wouldn't choose either. Both are lackluster, to me. Subaru interior looks 15 years old, while the CR-V is very stingy on feature content that the competition has.
The backside of the CRV is like the kid at school who copied Volvos homework last minute.
I want more bells and whistles. Idc about power or gas. Subaru is rated safer. Subaru wins it for me.
And it's AWD and lower center of gravity help in handling. I drove a '15 Forester 3.6R across the country last summer and was very impressed by the car.
I had had both and for me CRV ares better
I want comparison between Tuscan and cr-v
The previous gen Forester will still be for sale in most places for a couple months. If you don't care about the premium features, you can save $4k+ for almost the same vehicle.
A proud owner of the crv hybrid sport amazing vehicle
Thank you for the comparison videos, split screens. What’s make/model of vehicle u are sitting in with red seats at the end of the video?
I had the same question. I think it might have been a Forester with the brown trim that looks red.
I like the acceleration on the cr-v more with its hybrid power train. However, it's going for about 39k while I see 2025 subaru forester premium trims for about 32k where I live which is significantly cheaper.
I like your comparison videos. Though you presented a caveat in this video, I think comparing a hybrid to a non hybrid is not giving a fair comparison in some sections of the video. Unless you were asked to do this comparison, I feel you should have waited for Subaru Hybrid or used the non hybrid CR V. I think you already know this, I just did not understand why/purpose this comparison was done. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! We will definitely do this comparison again when the Forester Hybrid finally joins the lineup (no word on that yet). But in the meantime, it's important for people to understand that these are the powertrains available to them on the top half of the trims.
So, how come maintenance cost was not discussed? As far as I know from a friend who has a Subaru said it would be expensive to repair if there was an engine problem
Modern Subarus tend to be very good in short term reliability and just average for long term.
The Subaru CVT maintenance can be very expensive and should probably be done every 40k if you want it to last.
Biggest change is that the oil and CVT/differential fluids have to be changed more often. Oil because their engine seals can degrade and eventually burn oil at like 150-200k mi. CVT and diff fluid changes every 30-40k are needed to keep them good for the life of the vehicle, if they aren't maintained then the cost to replace can total the car.
I see concerns of seeing the infotainment system in the Subaru Forester. Your thoughts?
Honda wins here❤
Sounds like a buyer won't go wrong with either vehicle.
In Canada Forester Limited 2025 and Outback Limited 2025 have exactly SAME PRICE. Which one is better? Both are one level below top Touring Trims. And come with standard engine.
Which is a better car for city and highway driving for a family of 4, we never do off roading… …
What car are you in, in the end, with the panoramic sunroof and red seats?
Which one has a softer steering? Thanks
Forester
Can we get a update on the Camry? How's it holding up?How are you guys making out with it?
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subaru forrester is the best in its segment
It may not be appreciated until sitting in it but the CRV has an odd dash design of a black mesh through the vents and passenger area. Can absolutely see that being a magnet for dust, dirt, spills, sneezes that is not easily cleanable and possible damage. Not well thought out at all. Personally I also keep vehicles for a decade+ so I would put more longevity faith in the non-hybrid powertrain. The CVT of either is a bit of concern in that respect, I wish that Subaru still had manuals transmissions available across more of their models but it appears those options are in the history dustbin.
We just sat in one yesterday while car shopping and my hubby calls it “the cheese grater” 🤣
Sorry you failed to show the CRV storage with the rear seats folded down. It only takes a couple of seconds, you know.
Why would analogue vs digital cluster be a cons? I think this trend with screens everywhere went too far. And it rather cons then pros.
I'd go Forester. I'm not a huge fan of hybrid or EV systems as of yet. I'll take practicality and right to repair over that. Both are good cars, one is certainly a better bang for your buck over the other as far as costs go though. The key thing is if you are ok with hybrid/ev systems as they stand now and its pros and cons (specifically if you will utilize those pros over those cons).
Honda needs to bring the Element back.
I have a 2005 Element that won't die. Love it! Most useful car I've ever owned.
@@rachelrachel3007 I have a 2003 Element and would buy another if they still made them. It is THE most practical car ever made! I hate to part with it, but over 200K is getting up there.
@@Dreoc My 2005 Element has over 400k and literally won't die. I've carefully kept up with all its reccomend maintenance. Just recently replaced the air conditioning compressor and one fan...that's it other than regular maintenance. Everything is still original.
I'm still leaning towards the Mazda CX 50
so youre saying the CRV is as fast off the line as a type r?
We purchased the CRV Touring Hybrid and I could not get use to the cramped interior.....you can't just go by numbers. The greenhouse effect in the Subaru makes a dull winter day much more enjoyable. I loved the hybrid in the CRV, but most people don't realize that the hybrid does increase you insurance costs. I like the looks of the Forester over the CRV and also the CVT in the 25 Forseter is so smooth as is the ride. We ended up trading the CRV for the Forester......the Forester just fit us to a T. BTW....sit in the Forester and have a look out each window, the CRV has a huge A-pillar...that makes it less safe to drive and see crosswalks, etc.
Subarus are known for their large glass-to-roof aspects, which always helps with visibility and reduced feelings of claustrophobia. Especially so on the Forester, which has been true since the 1st gen.
SUBARU DEALERS CAN'T CHARGE OVER MSRP. IF SUBARU CORPORATE FINDS OUT THE CUT THEIR ALLOCATION OF VEHICLES.
FOR A FORESTER YOU WILL USUALLY GET $1,500-$2,000 OFF RIGHT WHEN YOU MAKE A DEAL. THEY ALL DO IT. ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE OTHER SUBARU DEALERSHIPS NEARBY.
They both are my fave suvs 😊
it is werid that the CRV in the US is not equipped with front fog lights, in almost all asean market CRV it comes with it. And the rear turn signals we get is full led instead of bulb
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For this specific comparison I’d go for CR-V hybrid for the following reasons:
1. Hybrid is a real value (fuel efficiency) vs. lots of options and features that Forester has (Heated back seats, ventilated seats, rear view mirror, and panoramic roof)
2. eCVT in CR-V hybrid is more reliable than Subaru CVT and it’s maintenance free as well.
Did Honda fix the CRV oil dilution?
Just wondering why the crv doesn’t come with a spare tire? Seems like it’s just being cheap!
I think they have a spare in the non hybrid. Battery takes up space.
From the research i have done the past few days the new AWD CRV’s are not getting anywhere close to the epa highway mileage they supposed to and are averaging 29-31mpg highway and the new foresters with the superior awd systems are easily getting 33-34 highway . I feel like you know what you get with the foresters and they are a very consistent product. Again this was just from researching both vehicles on forums and youtube i think if the crv hybrid is your jam just get the fwd version that one is consistent with its mileage. Also many people overlook that purchasing extended warranty’s are recommended with any hybrid that adds more cost on top of a vehicle that is already more expensive than the forester which negates all savings from purchasing the hybrid model because the mileage is close enough to be considered negligible to most people.I really like the crv but logic is telling me the forester is the better buy
If you're going to give the hybrid model the nod for power and engine than you have to compensate that on the price point. Your pricing was not for a hybrid model.
All pricing was as tested exactly as you see in the video
I prefer the CRV. The Forester has some major problems for me.
Because of the symmetric all wheel drive tires are a big problem if you get a flat. Do you replace all four tires or buy a new tire and shave it down.
The safety systems do not work when you need them the most in heavy fog, rain, snow... The cameras are unable to see.
The entire car is too complicated. No person knows what all the lights and features are. For example the sunroof opens automatically to 70% because it makes too much wind noise greater than 70% Entering a pin code by pressing buttons multiple times and listening for the beeps in the front while you are standing at the back of the car.. Putting the key fob into sleep mode to lock it inside the car. Disabling the seat belt alarm by inserting the buckle 20 times within 30 seconds. Special windshield for the cameras that breaks often for $1,000+. The list goes on and on. The Forester is impractical and ridiculous.
I have owned 35 cars in my lifetime and currently own my first Subaru a 2024 Forester Limited and I hate it. The steering drives me crazy I constantly have to make small adjustments to keep the care centered in a lane. If I use cruise control and lane centering it does not ping pong but it is like wrestling a bear.
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Unfortunately Honda is no longer one of the leaders for reliability. Their CVT is far inferior to the Subaru's. They have been having major issues on other models such as the powertrain on the Pilot, Passport, Odesy and Ridgeline. Obviously it's not the power plant used here but they have been slipping big time on quality and reliability across the board. Subaru uses the best CVT technology plus completely refined the 2.4l boxer.
Crv definitely
On price comparison almost every Honda dealer includes dealer add ons that will add upwards of several thousand dollars to the price. Subaru dealers I have dealt with don't play that game.
Probably forester for me. Standard AWD, cheaper per trim for most trims, and can negotiate. Honda is not a technology masterpiece, and getting a CRV might be a 3 week wait in my area, while Honda dealers treat you horribly. Subaru, I’ve seen them in stock, can negotiate under MSRP, and dealers treat you very well and respectfully.
Nice review guys! (both cars are fantastic)..I just would suggest that you could compare them in off road conditions (medium, to basic) also compare the existing crash test reference info. Regards from a forester owner.
Subaru, you can't trust a Honda transmission. Out west, these Subarus towing cargo trailers all over the place... screw overpriced trucks. Those Subarus also have a nice lift too, the trans axle sits higher in the chassis, and the wheelbase is really good. The CVT transmission is a fail, however.
So many brands are using CVTs. I think it is because they are lighter and the government's fuel economy requirements is causing manufacturers to think lighter weight for every component. Nothing like government's strong-arm requirements to ruin perfect cars/SUVs.
Let's hear it for ScubieRu!
Now compare the Kia sportage 2025 hybrid with the Honda crv hybrid or the rav4 hybrid :)
Subaru has been a mystery to me. Consumer Reports polls Subaru as recently being more reliable than Honda or Toyota. When I speak to mechanics, I was told transmission, head gasket, difficulty in routine service access & to stay away. Contradictory!
CRV-hybrid shouldn’t have been mentioned in this comparison. The regular CRV vs. the Forester is the ONLY comparison that should have been made.
As stated numerous times, there is no equivalent non-hybrid CRV to the Touring Forester. Forester does not offer a hybrid version yet.
Forester comes with a Space Saver Spare Tire whereas CRV is equipped with a Tire Repair Kit. This translates to a flatbed lift to the nearest tire repair shop if the CRV has a damaged sidewall or a clean tread face puncture larger than a nail.