Drum Teacher Reacts to Tomas Haake - Meshuggah - Bleed - Episode 94
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2020
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Steve's analysis, initial reactions and hot takes of Tomas Haake with Meshuggah playing "Bleed"
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ATTENTION HONORABLE VIEWERS!! Yes I know I stopped the video early. I felt I needed to to keep the video from being way too long. Thanks and have a great day!
I'ts just 15min thou, people watch 4hour long podcasts these days. I maybe speaking for myself but I would not have a problem with you breaking down that knowledge piece by piece for however long it takes
@@billnilsson noted
You clearly know your craft, watched a couple of videos, and you're the first one that just could break down time sigs. and different techniques on the fly,
@@JunkdrummerTV You should see the video "Clockworks" where he looks even more relaxed 😎💤! The drumming on that song is The Best i've heard him do🇸🇪💥!!
Need a part 2 then.
you're one of the very rare reactors who caught the switch up in the second verse, good stuff
"So so now he´s ...now its´...aah sneaky" :D Nice reaction!
I’ve been waiting for someone to catch it.
somedude682 Very sneaky!
"The one is a rumor in that part" LOL....never heard that one before.
Albeit it is quite easy to find when just concentrating at the hands. Snare is on 3.
Yep. You heard about it, haven't seen it yet...
Like the cake, the one is a lie.
Remember there is no spoon ;)
Came down for this.
Im amazed at how quickly you picked up what he was doing with his feet. You got my sub!
If you were in marching band it's a really common pattern.... done with your hands Haha
Best reaction of this song Ive seen. You explained hertas so well i can finally understand whats going on. Good job.
Dude, your level of honesty makes you deserve everything good that has been happening to you. Cheers from Argentina and thank you for your labor, man. Rock on!
"Now I know why everyone wanted me to do this video, Jesus." - pretty much every drum teacher or coach reaction to Meshuggah.
Brother I just watched my first video of yours and am very pleased! I understand u really well. Your straight forward, and have a good sense of humor. Really enjoyed this video. I’ll have to check out more of your videos soon. Thanks man, keep it up!
Excellent breakdown of a Master Drummer in action really appreciated your knowledge on what we are seeing at work. Meshuggah are like no other.
Bill Burr actually has a great bit in his podcast about going to see Meshuggah live just to watch Thomas Haake play. I saw them 3 or 4 years ago when the were touring with Megadeth and caught one of his sticks at the end of the show
I watched an interview with him and he said learning this song took the same time as learning the entire rest of the album. LOL
6-8 months i believe
I caught one of Tomas Haake's stick at a show. Now my wife's pregnant.
I’m not really into the style of the band in general, but I want to hear more of this drummer. I like the way every time you think you’ve figured out what he’s doing he starts doing something more complex.
That's where one starts to get sucked in before realising the modulating groove that is Meshuggah's speciality.
Been 2 years, I bet you're one of us now.
You only watched half of the video Steve!
True but I don't think there's anything drastically different through to the end of the song from that interlude.
@@fubar1217 what? The whole solo is after the interlude, the most rhythmically complex part.
@@bloodblitzowns11 Doh....forgot about that. Shows you how long it's been since I've listened to the song!
@@bloodblitzowns11 not much of an analysis anyway 🤷♂️
@@fubar1217 it gets more meshugga twords the end
Meshuggah is one of those bands that writes really complex shit but it actually sounds complete. So many technical bands write some complex stuff but it doesn’t sound complete at all and ends up just sounding odd in a bad way, sometimes.
sounding incomplete also has the beauty if done properly. Like Deftones using half chorus for the first and sometimes second time in their songs
Try "CLockworks" in studio. Haake killing it
Definitely the best bleed UA-cam reaction video, hands down. This is the first video of yours I've watched and you have my sub, and seriously considering lessons from you as I'm coming back into drumming after breaking my wrist.
That's great!! Get hold of me at madrudimentalist@yahoo.com
Best review of Tomas Haake I’ve seen. Breaking down the purpose of the ghost notes earned a sub! Fantastic
I would say the next drummer to change metal was Chris Pennie of Dillinger Escape Plan. Every 4/4 hardcore/metal band of the late 90’s died out and crazy beats arose. Still affecting metal bands today.
Never enjoyed that band, but he did the drums on a Coheed and Cambria album, and I sincerely love what he did for that album. He’s crazy talented
I came here to say the exact same thing.
I'm so glad people are starting to put him in that God tier, I remember Tomas talking about him as a great drummer back in like 2002. Chris was absolutely a game changing drummer.
One of the best technical explanations of the incredible difficulty of this track, bravo!
Thanks for another great break down BRO
I'm not a drummer, not a musician, but appreciate this like a damn small "masterpiece"
I heard that he Thomas actually practiced this tune for 6 months before going into the studio. that's crazy for a guy who's already a next level drummer. Insane!
Lmao "The one is a rumor during that section" that's great
"The 1 is a rumor"! Great line...(and true!)
I'm just gonna say it: Metal still hasn't caught up to what Meshuggah was doing even before Obzen. I love many other bands but the Mesh is the fave.
Well said. When you listen to Meshuggah, Tool etc metal just hasn't caught up with these geniuses. Next level shit for sure. Awesome, awesome band.
@@rubaidaallen2764 yes, gojira as well, their style is just so unique
@@weberb6848 Gojira and Tool arent in the same picture as Meshuggah, dont get it mixed up.
@@Henry14arsenal2007 oh yes they are, only a fool would not recognize the work that gojira and tool have made. They are some of the most unique bands in the world, along with meshuggah. They dont have the same sound, but all are them are music legends.
Heaviest band I've heard. I like a lot metal but to me Meshuggah is in another realm.
Great content!! Tomas Haake is a new fav for me along side Chris Alder. In regards to double bass technique.
The best analysis of BLEED..
Absolutely loved the breakdown! Guess I'm gonna have to join the Patreon to request 'Sol Niger within' a medley by the guitarist from Meshuggah and Morgan Ågren on the drums. (My favorite drummer of all time)
Tomas Haake once said "I usually have no idea what the hell he's doing" and if that's not a compliment, I don't know what is. 🤘
Clockworks playthrough is a must, great react and subbed!
I just love your insight on drumming and love how you teach it. I am 43 years old and just picked up the drum sticks because of you. Would you sometime do a Reaction to Micheal Shrieve from Santana or Ben Gillies from Silverchair.
Good job!
If you haven't already please react to Martin Lopez with Opeth. I don't know if there's a drum playthrough by him but it's worth a shot. Love the small lessons you give while reacting. Keep it up!
Hey i would like to say I love your videos, music has always been a huge part of my life, I was in band all through school, and try to learn how to play bass guitar and I've tried to learn how to play drums and percussion but nothing ever stuck. It cool to learn the differences in styles and how they fill the music and the band. You are awesome!! Be awesome if you could find some slipknot songs to do some videos one. Their drums and percussion section is insane.
You said he was making it look easy. It's part that and apparently he was nursing/still recovering from a slipped disc in his back, which was causing problems with one of his legs too.
You explain very good, thanx. Hallo from Sweden
The drummer doing poly rhythms with his hands and feet is insane to me. That level of syncopation breaks my brain
"The 1 is a _rumor_ during that section." Lol I haven't heard that!
I’m sure there are a lot of good drum teachers, but IMO this is the most knowledgeable drum teacher I’ve seen on UA-cam
Wow. Thank you very much. I try hard.
@@JunkdrummerTV I played for 25+ years on a Tama Granstar 2 that I bought back in ‘92. I’ve then switched to guitar. But I love watching your videos and how you dissect everything.
How do I go about getting one of your T-shirts?
Just click on one of the shirts underneath the video!!
Also that link is in the description
I laughed so loud when you stopped the music haha
What I love about the drumming on this song is that it looks so easy on paper until you try to play it yourself
I've known about the herta patterns in this song for years, but watching this still gives me calf cramps.
As Blood Runs Black, drummer "Lech"
Love the vid btw
One of the most insightful and explanitory reactions I've seen to this song
Thank you!!
Oh okay thank you sorry I missed it, ill check it out asap
Great reaction
I don't understand why nobody recommends Nostrum, this song is phenomenal and the style is kind of new for Thomas Haake, definitely worth checking it.
Also totally agree with you regarding the fact the Meshuggah changed the game. For me they are their with Sabbath, Metallica, Maiden, Slayer, ... in terms of influence. (Not as popular but as influencial as those bands).
The one is a rumor had me dying!
Necrophagist had a pretty large impact in the early 2000s, I remember death metal completely changing after onset of putrefaction came out.
the moment ir got out of hand was the summer slaughter tour, i remember those days.
Somehow doing that beat with his feet all the while having thy eyes blasted with stage lights.
Great reaction! I'd say one of the newer drummers that have been "changing the game" for metal is Ray Hearne from the band Haken. Definitely a prog metal band, but they have an extremely diverse sound. If I were to give some suggestions for songs that really show off Ray's drumming prowess, I'd say "1985" or "Invasion" are pretty good places to start.
Thank you.
No thank u
keep practicing until its easy! no words, just subbing right fucking now, i already knew 1 was a rumor.
Interesting you say they are Toolish.
Both bands take influence have each other. Tool members said that when they were writing Jambi (and the album it was on) they were often listening to Meshuggah.
And people have spotted Danny at Meshuggah concerts more than once.
And if I'm not mistaken, Meshuggah opened for Tool in the early 2000's too.
love how he quotes Townsend!
Awesome info man. I wanna know is that a Mick Foley pop behind you?
*Hardcore Legend Mick Foley. Show some respect
@@JunkdrummerTV I have the same one in my collection. He's one of my all time favorite wrestlers. Much respect for the Hardcore Legend Mick Foley.
Officially subscribed after this video, don’t know what took me so long lol. I have a serious request that I think you will enjoy. Vlad U from Jinjer playing Retrospection, drum play through video. You are sure to enjoy it. He is as unique as he is talented. And to answer your question, Europe definitely does metal better than us. And as far as a band changing the game similar to Meshuggah would have to be Jinjer. They are amazingly talented and unique. They are bringing fresh sound to the metal scene. Thanks as always.
Thanks 👍😘🇸🇪
"Yeah, that's next level shit right there" hahaha
The Dillinger Escape Plan was the most innovative metal band of all time for me. Billy Reimer - When I Lost My Bet next!
Dillinger and BTBAM
@@summeronio9751 BTBAM never really clicked with me. I used to be a big prog head and got burnt out on it by the time I listened to them. What’s your favorite album of theirs?
@@dclarkmusic personay, I was a big fan of the Colors album
At the gates Slaughter of the Soul was the most influential album that I remember. That album was incredible.
@@dclarkmusicCheck out The Hypersleep Dialogues (Parallax EP). 30 minutes of god-level drumming. It is a bit old, but Richardson actually uploaded a remastered version recently.
Otherwise I would recommend Haken's newest album. Check out the drum cover of The Messiah Complex. Awesome prog!
Great reaction. Not sure where or when, but I read an interview with one of the Meshuggah guys where they were talking about how the Bars we usually adding up to 16, so you might have a bar of 9 beats then a bar of 7.
I've never played in a metal band - just not how it's panned out for me, but I do
Absolutely the Dillinger Escape Plan. Their first EP - Under the Running Board, followed by their first full length - Calculating Infinity. BIG game changers for metal. They took what bands like Rorshach, Deadguy, and Kiss It Goodbye had been doing and made it crazier and more extreme.
Dude.. I don't know shit about drums.. But you explained more than most. Ya earned a sub!
In the chorus, he's playing a hemiola with his hands and what sound like the herta with his feet.
Tomas is a Machine
Opeth - Blackwater Park, a must listen.
Thomas said it took him a whole month to learn just this song and I’m sure that was every day for hours definitely one of my fav drummers and bands
Your videos are a pleasure to watch. The "sneaky" reaction on the second verse was priceless!
I just would like to answer your question about game-changers, from my perspective. Last band that made me go "what the f$%k is happening here???", after Meshuggah did that for me a few years earlier, was Mastodon... although to a lesser extent. I mean that in the sense that, unlike Meshuggah, Mastodon went full-on, batshit crazy on the first three albums (especially drummer Brann Dailor) and then went on to progressively simplify their songwriting as they got more succesful, whereas Meshuggah kept on creating sicker stuff as their career took off, up until at least 2008 (the year "Obzen" came out).
I'm not sure if you have already, but Brann Dailor would be another great drummer for you to check out and perhaps do an analisys of for a video.
I did Brann already. Please check it out
@@JunkdrummerTV Oh great! Gotta check it out right away
Thank you for noticing how fluid Thomas is...I like to say that he is as smooth as flat pepsi!
How do you make recommendations/submissions for videos to review?
Right here
@@JunkdrummerTV my band is looking for reviews for our most recent release. ua-cam.com/video/Y7zqK96r9yI/v-deo.html
Love everything you do please try tim Alexander drum clinic chicago...the song is called eleven...amazing drums
I did Herb already!
Tomas Haake is awesome.
As for your question at the end, whether Europe or the US is currently doing metal better, the answer is definitely Japan. No matter how you like your metal; old-school, modern, conventional or progressive, Japan has us all beat. Except I can't really think of a Japanese drummer that quite does what Tomas Haake does. So at least we still have that.
React to Carter Beaufort playing Tripping Billies in the studio
HOWDY FROM CONNECTICUT..YES HE IS ONE OF THE BEST..HOWEVER AT A RISK OF SOUNDING REDUNDANT IN MY COMMENTS POUND FOR POUND MARIO DUPLANTIER IS THE BEST OUT THERE...AND OF COURSE IM GOING TO SAY GOJIRA IS DOING NEXT LEVEL PROG METAL...IN YOUR FREE TIME CHECK OUT THE LIVE VERSION OF PRAY LIVE AT RED ROCKS...ENJOY..PEACE
He's awesome but the avant-garde style Haake was doing years ago still hasn't been surpassed. Gojira is still more straightforward deathmetal by comparison, with many super-tight syncopated rhythms and such but still not polymetric to the Mesh's extent. Have you heard much Frank Zappa, Alan Holdsworth, King Crimson, Mats/Morgan...?
dude mario is great! but he isnt doing super innovative things most of the time. songs like the art of dying, the cell... yes sometimes he pushes the boundaries of structure and rythmic theory but overall he isnt doing a ton of stuff that is really far out of the metal norm. he just does it so well it's a thing of brutal beauty. he is one of my favorite drummers.. top 3 I'd say... but I just cant really put him above haake in terms of his impact on metal drumming and the evolution of it.
Mario’s great but he’s no Haake.
If you are a drummer this is "THE herta"!
Thanks for the content.
I learned about Meshuggah because of a band name Candiria and also a band name The Dillinger Escape Plan. Nice video
Haake is the goat
"one is a rumor" lol xD
“1 is a rumor.” 😂😂
In last couple of years the one band that keep impressing me is Jinjer, they are amazing and their album Macro from 2019 blowing my mind
I’d probably say that as of late, the band that’s changed the game in metal has been Slaughter To Prevail. They play brutal deathcore metal, but it’s as catchy and hooky as any pop song.
Oh, and the singer’s vocals are completely next level. There’s videos of him doing scream parts...SANS MICROPHONE...that sound like he’s on a mic.
The drummer, Evgeny Novikov (they’re a Russian band) is just so damn tight with his playing, yet you can very much hear his feel. And it’s so heavy. Great band to check out!
"The one is a rumour" 😂
for me it's Vildhjarta that pushed the envelope recently, maybe not as much as Meshuggah, but more then the other bands that I can think of. Have a listen to a track called The Lone Deranger by them, or Dagger for a drum playthrough (Buster Odeholm), although this band is more about guitarwork I'd say
second thought would be Ulcerate and they actually got a beast of a drummer by the name of Jamie Saint Merat, go for Extinguished Light [Live Drum Playthrough]
and while we are talking about drumming beast, go check John Longstreth, this boy got a stamina and force of a horse, Staring & Aftermath live drum cam is face melting
and, and, and Darkside from Mgła - Exercises in Futility V Drum cam, hypnotizing cymbal work
Stephen's Skype lessons are the best Skype lessons!
"The 1 is a rumor" hahahahahah
Alright, I was wondering why I had not heard a great deal of Meshuga, then the vocals began. Oh yeah, that. I'm sorry, being growled at is not my cup of tea, but I must be mellowing out in my old age. I lasted 10 minutes. I liked the part where you said you're not getting that here. it would take me 2 hours to explain. I am so thankful I never had to explain my guitar riffs to people, cause that is along the same lines.
Very refreshing to hear from a reaction/teacher/coach UA-camr say, "I don't know". I'm sure you could break it down, like you said in a couple hours, but at least you didn't throw out some BS jargon to fake it 🤙
I watch both yours and Garret’s content even if it overlaps :)
Hi, please check out drum cam video of The Ocean's Jurassic. The song came out in August and video maybe in September. Thanks!
Jinjer is changing the metal game hard. Vlad is a mad man. It’s amazing.
please react to another Zach Hill one; Lost Boys (practice). or please react to Pat Hamelin, either The Carnal State or Le toit du monde. Pat has admitted that he occasionally uses triggers, which is apparently some big deal in metal
I agree this song is over reacted on UA-cam. You probably went more in depth with the detail in timing and all that's what I'm coming to the channel for
He didnt even watch the entire thing lol
I clicked that link sooo fast
I think you would enjoy Gojira's Mario Duplantier a lot. He's definitely one of the best in the game today. I would mostly suggest The Art of Dying, but he has many of his drum solos that he has played live over the years filmed on his youtube channel. Those solos are phenomenal and I think you especially would enjoy them, as Mario is basically a jazz drummer playing metal. Another big big suggestion would be Periphery's Matt Halpern. He's my personal favorite and no one has such a feel as him. From him I would probably suggest Garden In The Bones playthrough, The Way the News Goes playthrough on Meinl Drum Festival, or maybe something like 22 Faces or Prayer Position. Or if you want PURE emotion, then definitely the playthrough for Lune with Promark drumsticks. He has playthroughs for all of these songs on yt.
I did an episode on him already. Please check it out
@@JunkdrummerTV Oh damn that has gone unnoticed, definitely checking out
He is influencing today and future drummers. How do you stand out without seeming that you sound like a known band?
Steve check out Clay Aesschliman from Polyphia. Love the way he uses all his cymbals, very melodic.
Goat drum playthrough! Yes!
At 7:38 he plays the snare along with the regular herta in dotted 8ths. Imo it's actually a good training exercise just to listen to this while keep the 4/4 in your head. Tomas is so sick. ^^
Have you done Daru Jones?
Finally someone who recognized the herta.
That's just marching band stuff!!