Utmost respect for sticking with a character no matter how low he is on the tier list. That's the beauty of Third Strike. Anything can happen because of parries
A lot of times Low tier characters are some of the most dangerous characters to fight…they will always be unknown to the audience who are not aware of the capabilities that character has. Not only that…if a character is low tier…even the most experienced players can fall victim to someone who mains a low tier character
it's funny because the instant I saw yun's oki on alex, my brain instantly went "oh he's gonna wake up super isn't he". It's scrubby until it works baby!
It's so sad that the overrated Juri has a perfect attendance record since her debut, but the coolest grappler in the series is treated like a side character now...
Same thing with Necro. A zoner without a fireball isn't something you see every day to the point that I can only name 2, Necro and Axl (pre Strive new move).
Me too. I'm an Alex main in SFV. But he got nerfed hard after Season 2 and didn't really get viable until literally in the final patch. Alex really needs his parries to be outside of V-Trigger to be viable, and I'd much rather Flying DDT be reworked into a ranged blockable throw that can hit crouching opponents..
What people fail to realize is that tier lists are opinion pieces not gospel. Not everyone values the same things. Some people value speed some value strength. So the relative strength of a character, weapon or anything in a game is based on what the user values. People have this bad habit of taking the easy way out. That's why tier lists are created and used. People want a quick guide to tell them what match ups are going to be like. The problem is tier lists create assumptions. Those assumptions and preconceived notions can cost you dearly. Especially against an opponent that has put more time into their craft. Many a pro has choked on a low tier counter pick simply because the matchup is unknown. Mad respect for anyone that can put in the time to get good with a character others have deemed useless. Thats true skill and hard work paying off.
One thing I've noticed is how grapplers have never been high tier characters consistently, despite their high damage unblockable moves requiring 360s. Probably because the game developers go 'hey, you know this game's main combo mechanic? Well the grapplers won't use it at all, because that might make them too powerful'.
Funny irony is the picture used in the thumbnail was when he was considered a high tier character. Iirc in both versions of TVC Alex was on the too tier or the very close to being top tier.
I was just thinking yesterday that if Alex had a parry V-Skill in SFV that he’d be a lot better. DDT could have been half circle motion again and his Grab Command Normal should’ve returned. Would be a bonus if his regular taunt still gave him 2 consecutive specials… I like Alex despite not normally playing grapplers or charge characters-but for some reason he feels both ‘fair’ and ‘incomplete’ to me...
I love your videos man, you've told me so many fighting game stories I would have never heard otherwise, and nobody does it like you. You have a chill vibe, you're a good storyteller, and I'm happy to watch every video you release :D
The good thing about playing a character with more limitations, you will see people use Alex in different ways to win. The thing is when you watch say, chun-li players in third strike, they all have similar boring playstyles.
Genki and Kazuya are both my favourite JP 3rd players, especially Kazuya they're inspirational Alex players and seeing what they manage to do with the character is nothing short of inspirational
as a ALEX main since 3rd strike i salute this man, SFV near the end also gave me hope cause Alex was pretty decent compared to what he was since SF3, but hopefully capcom bring him back and mika before SF6 ends
man I started playing 3rd strike some months ago with alex and I choose alex don't caring of the fact that he is like top 5 trash, I've been wondering if you would drop a video on how genki made alex work and you did it, thx
Alex isn’t considered bottom tier. Low tier yeah but in that fringe border case where he can be considered bottom of mid tier top of low tier. And yun isn’t top 1. No one says this but chun mains to downplay their character.
Also. *None of things at the beginning are why Alex is considered bottom 5/6. At all.* His issue isn’t parries at all. His buttons are far from notably exploitable. Nor does he have particularly laggy moves. One of the safer sweeps, and one of the only neutral on block moves in the game. Ffs his medium punch is tied for second fastest move in the game with most LIGHTS. He has a light with higher priority & builds meter while being fast on all accounts still. I don’t know where you got this misinformation from but completely off. Alex’s issues are that he has limited ways of utilizing his meter (which is the reason ppl pick sa2 do you got they right at least….), limited combo routes, limited ranged parry rewards & has the worst lows in the game sans Remy meaning all together he struggles to get good consistent offense & has to take more risks to be able combo ppl outside of parry. It’s not that he lacks combos or mix ups, he has those. It’s that he only can get medium into chop every time vs Hugo getting light confirms into super, and his mix up is purely strike throw based but with nothing to get you to low parry he has nothing to create a real mental stack. The part that makes this so insane is that these are literally the issues every non high tier has generally; no long range parry option, no good lows for combos, less uses for meter, & limited combo routes. 13 characters have the same downsides & half of your ones on Alex were either wrong, or misunderstanding the issue.
alex is not a terrible character. matter of fact; i forgot how good he actually is. back in the day ; i had no issue winning except for when a particular regular would play as Alex . he tore me to shreds.
Character's Tier list shows the tools at your disposition, that's all. If you want to be the real goat, manage to use those Low-Tier tools in the right way. Then only you can brag about winning with S Tiers. It's like using a chainsaw instead of a handsaw to cut wood. Why not, but it won't show your real skills, unless you use the chainsaw to carve instead of cutting. Talent and skills matter, but those who starts from the bottom to become champions are the real deal.
If you truly want to be good in a frightening game theirs two characters you need. A F characters and a basic character this teaches you how to maximize what you have even if it’s not the best to win.
Imagine using the most busted character as a crutch, and STILL getting dunked on but what everyone else considered a trash character. The absolute SHAME he has to feel. 😂 Had every advantage possible.
Honest Questions for Guys who use S tier champs in fighting games. Do you feel like a chump winning matches against crap tier champs? And how bad does it feel to lose to crap tier champs using an S tier?
I think it’s partially the other “trash” characters in all other fighting games chosen in pro league. They don’t know how to counter these picks like how they would like even B-tier characters. I think Sonic Fox did this with a Mortal Kombat round.
They're both so strong that, even tho people think Chun is the best, Yun can also be said to be the best and no one would bat an eye. The only difference is difficulty imo
Genei Jin is the best SA in the game. Makes a lot of pokes have SA priority, melts health and after Genei Jin is done, Yun can still build meter during the juggle. Also has the most oppressive dive kick in the game and some really great buttons. Those great buttons can also lead to small combos that build tons of meter. He also has a better match up against Chun Li and a really great run away game.
One of those hhm some street fight stuff? i dont even play strret fighter i mean i have when i was a kid but interesting video none the less lmao seriously though i watched all of it
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Only 220 comments and this many views is wild. You sound kind if dry and boring. Just something I noticed
Alex is a character so endearing that even with his lowly spot on the tier list, I can’t help but play him. He’s so fun. And Genki is our hero.
Playing a character you love will inspire you to improve anyway.
The hyper bomb is super satisfying to finish a match with and especially the suplex city version
I've been playing alex since 2004, even though it's a uphill battle for me I still enjoy the fights...and with parry...I'm not scared of anything..
The announcers yelling "Final Justice" and "BATISTA BOMB". Had me cracking up
THUMBS UP SOLDIER!
How about when the announcer said eat dirt? lol 😅
Utmost respect for sticking with a character no matter how low he is on the tier list. That's the beauty of Third Strike. Anything can happen because of parries
PL making the Fighting game content people REALLY care about. Thanks for covering this underrated gem of a moment
If you already know 3rd Strike and just want the match play-by-play, skip 7 minutes in. No, really.
Ty for the book marker
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A lot of times Low tier characters are some of the most dangerous characters to fight…they will always be unknown to the audience who are not aware of the capabilities that character has. Not only that…if a character is low tier…even the most experienced players can fall victim to someone who mains a low tier character
I saw the TvC Alex render and thought we were going to start getting TvC content on the channel. 3rd Strike Alex is cool though.
Me toooo lololol
don't kid yourself ,no one played that garbage
@@pacepicante6952 I quite literally play this game regularly, play in every online tournament, every major I can attend, and just won a local for it.
@@pacepicante6952People play this game regularly to this day.
Tvc alex isn't bottom tier
it's funny because the instant I saw yun's oki on alex, my brain instantly went "oh he's gonna wake up super isn't he". It's scrubby until it works baby!
when you said the trimmer could help you "freshen up before your pools match" I was thinking "freshen up for the restaurant after going 0-2" lmao
It's so sad that the overrated Juri has a perfect attendance record since her debut, but the coolest grappler in the series is treated like a side character now...
Alex’s feet don’t have the same appeal to the devs.
@@ajazzforrock I guess so
I agree Hugo is overdue for a return
Same thing with Necro. A zoner without a fireball isn't something you see every day to the point that I can only name 2, Necro and Axl (pre Strive new move).
But zangief is already on sf6 what you talking about?
I really want him in SF6... But maybe he should return SF7...
Nah, I want him in SF6.
Me too. I'm an Alex main in SFV. But he got nerfed hard after Season 2 and didn't really get viable until literally in the final patch. Alex really needs his parries to be outside of V-Trigger to be viable, and I'd much rather Flying DDT be reworked into a ranged blockable throw that can hit crouching opponents..
It was 100% Alex when he came out in V 😤 Demon Dan agrees.
The problem with Alex is that most of his pokes don’t have a special/super cancel which makes him hard to play
6:12 this wasn't 2 cr.lk, this was his cr.lk cr.mk target combo
Love seeing my favorite fighting game character get some love
What people fail to realize is that tier lists are opinion pieces not gospel. Not everyone values the same things. Some people value speed some value strength. So the relative strength of a character, weapon or anything in a game is based on what the user values. People have this bad habit of taking the easy way out. That's why tier lists are created and used. People want a quick guide to tell them what match ups are going to be like. The problem is tier lists create assumptions. Those assumptions and preconceived notions can cost you dearly. Especially against an opponent that has put more time into their craft. Many a pro has choked on a low tier counter pick simply because the matchup is unknown. Mad respect for anyone that can put in the time to get good with a character others have deemed useless. Thats true skill and hard work paying off.
0:17 P Lob knows exactly how to drive up comment engagement 👀
Sometimes playing a bad character may make your opponent make mistakes or overconfident. Nobody expects that and may even laugh at how silly it is.
8:55 is crazy
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Lol I didn't know Alex was a F tier character. Why did Capcom made the new protagonist of their new Street Fifhter F tier?
It's clickbait, alex is not F tier. He's around C tier.
@@Karsius1correct. Alex is not considered bottom tier at all.
Capcom is Crapcom
Alex literally has a great design I’m surprised they always do him dirty as a former poster child for sf 😔
One thing I've noticed is how grapplers have never been high tier characters consistently, despite their high damage unblockable moves requiring 360s. Probably because the game developers go 'hey, you know this game's main combo mechanic? Well the grapplers won't use it at all, because that might make them too powerful'.
Funny irony is the picture used in the thumbnail was when he was considered a high tier character. Iirc in both versions of TVC Alex was on the too tier or the very close to being top tier.
I was just thinking yesterday that if Alex had a parry V-Skill in SFV that he’d be a lot better. DDT could have been half circle motion again and his Grab Command Normal should’ve returned. Would be a bonus if his regular taunt still gave him 2 consecutive specials…
I like Alex despite not normally playing grapplers or charge characters-but for some reason he feels both ‘fair’ and ‘incomplete’ to me...
Genki was a hell of a player, best Alex to date, amazing punishes, his grand finals versus Daigo at the Tougeki was an amazing fight at the time
Alex always been my favorite sf character glad he’s getting more attention
Oh man, I was in the commentary booth for this going absolutely BONKERS at Genki's play. Thanks for the memories on this one!
I love your videos man, you've told me so many fighting game stories I would have never heard otherwise, and nobody does it like you. You have a chill vibe, you're a good storyteller, and I'm happy to watch every video you release :D
The good thing about playing a character with more limitations, you will see people use Alex in different ways to win. The thing is when you watch say, chun-li players in third strike, they all have similar boring playstyles.
FUCK YEAH I LOVE THIS SET IVE BEENWAITING FOR SOMEONE TO COVER IT
Moral of the story: It doesn't matter who's carrying the biggest stick. It matters who's swinging it.
Genki and Kazuya are both my favourite JP 3rd players, especially Kazuya
they're inspirational Alex players and seeing what they manage to do with the character is nothing short of inspirational
you need to make this(amazing players, low tier characters) into a series called "Low Tier Gods"
The coolest story is Pepeday winning Nemo and cinching 1st place with supposedly low tier El Fuerte in a SF4 Japan (CAPCOM?) CUP.
This video is great! Good editing too. Respect.
Thank ytou for the slow motion; it really makes a difference in learning.
First fime seeing this. Felt like watching Daigo Parry, awesome stuff.
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I played TvC before third strike and had to adjust to the fact Alex is cooler in TvC
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as a ALEX main since 3rd strike i salute this man, SFV near the end also gave me hope cause Alex was pretty decent compared to what he was since SF3, but hopefully capcom bring him back and mika before SF6 ends
man I started playing 3rd strike some months ago with alex and I choose alex don't caring of the fact that he is like top 5 trash, I've been wondering if you would drop a video on how genki made alex work and you did it, thx
I know almost nothing about fighting games and this video is really fascinating! Thanks for the easy to understand breakdowns!
Alex isn’t considered bottom tier. Low tier yeah but in that fringe border case where he can be considered bottom of mid tier top of low tier. And yun isn’t top 1. No one says this but chun mains to downplay their character.
Also. *None of things at the beginning are why Alex is considered bottom
5/6. At all.*
His issue isn’t parries at all. His buttons are far from notably exploitable. Nor does he have particularly laggy moves. One of the safer sweeps, and one of the only neutral on block moves in the game. Ffs his medium punch is tied for second fastest move in the game with most LIGHTS. He has a light with higher priority & builds meter while being fast on all accounts still.
I don’t know where you got this misinformation from but completely off. Alex’s issues are that he has limited ways of utilizing his meter (which is the reason ppl pick sa2 do you got they right at least….), limited combo routes, limited ranged parry rewards & has the worst lows in the game sans Remy meaning all together he struggles to get good consistent offense & has to take more risks to be able combo ppl outside of parry.
It’s not that he lacks combos or mix ups, he has those. It’s that he only can get medium into chop every time vs Hugo getting light confirms into super, and his mix up is purely strike throw based but with nothing to get you to low parry he has nothing to create a real mental stack. The part that makes this so insane is that these are literally the issues every non high tier has generally; no long range parry option, no good lows for combos, less uses for meter, & limited combo routes. 13 characters have the same downsides & half of your ones on Alex were either wrong, or misunderstanding the issue.
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alex is not a terrible character. matter of fact; i forgot how good he actually is. back in the day ; i had no issue winning except for when a particular regular would play as Alex . he tore me to shreds.
The 3rd chapter so what's it gon' be?
You're trapped in the new world of Street Fighter 3
coop cup has so many stories to pull from it’s such an awesome tournament
My dad could use the absolute worst character and still win without taking any damage
oh yeah? mine could do the same, but with one hand
@asobibuddy8481 my papa can do it with his big toe
My dad could beat all of these players...
With a belt
@@justanotherparasite6941 my dad could do it with his beard
My dad wasn’t handy
I got a notification for this even though I’m not subscribed (I binged all your videos this week). It’s time I subscribe. The universe has spoken.
If it cant be punished it’s not a risk
This is why I like the pre-internet fighting game era.
Good characters cannot be nerfed. Bad characters cannot be buffed.
Maaaaan, naweboná chamo! 3rd Strike never stop surprising me! GOAT moment!
Character's Tier list shows the tools at your disposition, that's all. If you want to be the real goat, manage to use those Low-Tier tools in the right way. Then only you can brag about winning with S Tiers. It's like using a chainsaw instead of a handsaw to cut wood. Why not, but it won't show your real skills, unless you use the chainsaw to carve instead of cutting. Talent and skills matter, but those who starts from the bottom to become champions are the real deal.
If you truly want to be good in a frightening game theirs two characters you need. A F characters and a basic character this teaches you how to maximize what you have even if it’s not the best to win.
Imagine using the most busted character as a crutch, and STILL getting dunked on but what everyone else considered a trash character.
The absolute SHAME he has to feel. 😂 Had every advantage possible.
That low parry read was down right prophetic!
Honest Questions for Guys who use S tier champs in fighting games. Do you feel like a chump winning matches against crap tier champs? And how bad does it feel to lose to crap tier champs using an S tier?
Alex was my favorite character. I had no idea he was considered bad.
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There's DaggerG and Pierot with their Remy but this is on that level if not more impressive!
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I think it’s partially the other “trash” characters in all other fighting games chosen in pro league.
They don’t know how to counter these picks like how they would like even B-tier characters. I think Sonic Fox did this with a Mortal Kombat round.
Yun is not considered the best in the game. He is 2nd best, but Chun is definitely better.
They're both so strong that, even tho people think Chun is the best, Yun can also be said to be the best and no one would bat an eye. The only difference is difficulty imo
Genei Jin is the best SA in the game. Makes a lot of pokes have SA priority, melts health and after Genei Jin is done, Yun can still build meter during the juggle.
Also has the most oppressive dive kick in the game and some really great buttons. Those great buttons can also lead to small combos that build tons of meter.
He also has a better match up against Chun Li and a really great run away game.
cooperation cup and those 1 fight tournaments are random af, nothing really out of the ordinary
Alex is my favorite character from 3rd strike and favorite character in any street fighter game period
Winning a game with a low tier character is a high tier gamer 👏
Imo Alex is just lower mid.
His normals aren’t that good and it’s a big issue
Any chance you’ve got some marvel 2 analysis in the works? Either way love your videos keep it up !!
Genki and Hayao. We don't have those anymore in the new SF era.
Great video... I lived in Japan for over a decade... Video games are a whole other world over there... Genki, Genki deska?... 😅🤞🏿🙌🏿😂🤣😂🤣
They always call characters 'bad' because nobody figured out how to efficiently use the character😂
I mained alex in SF5 and he was pretty bad.
I havent played SF6 yet, but announcing alex would make me purchase instantly.
man this game looks so much better visually than SFVI. I miss the cohesive art direction
Okay so basically hes a freestyle fighter with a high battle iq with acute situational awareness
The genki play style… I like it.
Love the automattock cameo
Don buri for the whole crew! And the banchan!
The best character is the one you win with. Also goes for personal character.
FINAL JUSTICE!!!
gonna split hairs with this and note alex isn't bottom tier, he's low tier.
In 3s, the difference isn't big enough to matter given the game's not so good balance
I had no idea that the face of SF3 was bottom tier.
6:12 is his cr.lk cr.mk target combo that's a 1 frame link lol
it isn't a link and it isn't 1f
You can't escape!
Hard to say if Yun or Chun is better but overall, I’m more scared of Yun.
the person thats actually a Low Tier God
In Genki we trust!
I do like me a good ol hypah bomb though lol pretty satisfying to land it xD.
Whoa whoa whoa...we prefer "Low-Tier". Alex is cool af.
The real protagonist were the announcers
I really didn't Alex was a low teir character. I mostly play as him. That's cool I guess.
One of those hhm some street fight stuff? i dont even play strret fighter i mean i have when i was a kid but interesting video none the less lmao seriously though i watched all of it
Tired of ppl calling characters terrible.
Beautiful to see!!!
There needs to be a tier below OOF for twelve.
Such a cool character concept too 😭 I wish they were better
There are no good/bad characters only good/bad players.
Yo, what SF is that? Those animations are sick
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike. There was actually a major tournament this past year for it as well! Check out Evo 2024 Third Strike
So basically playing vanilla SF2.
Wait- do you know how risk works? It can't be a large risk with a low punishment. That's a low risk
Dude any player can be great. All you need to do is know how to use him.