thank you so much.I love the show and the Miley Cyrus song is one of my favorite pop tracks of all time.I wasn't expecting the mixer of that track to be on this episode It's amazing to hear his approach. Mike Will did a great job producing, it's truly a pop gem, a milestone, it's like the track of my dreams. Anyway, thank you again, I love how this is the only show where I could both geek out about a Miley Cyrus song and at the same time about a weird, vintage plugin or piece of gear.
Jaycen Joshua is probably my favorite mixing engineer at the moment. Great to see him on the show again! His vocal processing and all his EFX are damn near perfect and very creative every mix I hear from him... Thanks again for another GREAT show guys!
I really like the new format in which Dave gets the hit makers of the moment on the show. It is to Dave's and Herb's credit that they knows so many talented people in the industry and I fell very lucky that these technical interviews are available to us.
I was 12 when the Magna Carta Holy Grail record came out. Now I'm 23 and still to this day that is my favorite album. When I found out Jaycen was an engineer I was awestruck
Jaycen Joshua has to be one of the greatest hip hop mix engineers out there. His kicks do sound really massive and "bounce-y". I noticed that Mike Will often has his kicks hitting along with his snares - and perhaps to keep his peak meter in check, right now Jaycen Joshua seems to have thought it was best to let go of the snare a bit in such a scenario. If there's anything (in my view) he should be going for, it would be perfecting that delicate combination of kicks & snares hitting altogether, towards a more balanced trade where the snare would actually survive the process. Keep it up Jay!
There was some really, really great advice in this, thank you guys so much for having Jaycen on. I work in a completely different genre of music (Hard Rock/Metal/Extreme metal), but a lot of the advice really crosses over. With that being said, I'd love for you guys to have one of the bigger names in that genre of music on, two suggestions would be Joey Sturgis (who is sure to stir up opinions in the comments!), and Andy Sneap.
when you said he has a lot of things going on the right side of the mix. i was so glad to hear that, i thought my left ear was going out on me. but still it sat amazing in the mix i love it!
I know what he means about fl studio instruments are louder when tracked out... I noticed with the latest fl studio versions, when you start a new project, there's a limiter already on the master bus.. I usually take it off right before I make a beat.. Some producers don't...
Man funny he comes across a little secretive and then ends up being one of the most informative guests ever haha! Awesome everyone involved, its things like this that make me glad to be born in this era...
Dave, I often have similar problems with bass notes sounding drastically louder than others and normal compression never seems to solve the issue. from watching this ITL I see that you are using the C1 side chain to sort this problem out. I was wondering how to go about using this plug in to solve the issue. What should I be looking to target when using this plug in? What parameters are essential to getting it right? cheers
Even though I feel guilty asking for anything more than what you guys have given all of us so far, it would be amazing if Serban Ghenea came on the show!!
does gain staging mean making sure the mix bus is not clipping but keeping it at a decent level? so after eq-ing a sound making sure its not clippnig or pushing the mixbuss too far or vice versa...if the level drops after eq-ing adding some gain again?
I Love Dave & Herb! Another monumental show, indeed! Jaycen Joshua is The Truth! GREAT. ITL, as well! Much Love & Respect to you guys for disclosing "secrets" of pro mix engineers! This is stuff that audio schools don't really teach. These are techniques learned by "assisting" a great Engineer over a period of years! Thanks!! Oh yea... How about bringing on one of hip-hop's influential mixers from the ATL scene, LESLIE BRAITHWAITE!
Jaycen Joshua is an extremely talented dude. He's got an intellectual flare to his philosophy -- a philosophy that's very honest and without pretense. That's very rare. He learned from the best, though. ;-)
What eq or filters do u think are best for splitting tracks into lo/med/hi (like Jaycen mentioned) - so that you don't get overlap or gaps in the freq spectrum?
at 44:20 what does he say he uses to draw out the esses and t's? It sounds like he is saying click pane, or clip paint or something. Can't be Clip Paint though, cause that's a graphic programme.
@Pensado's Place If those are chain diagram Dave looks down at to get an idea to ask a question, I need those diagrams.... never thought of being that organized.
The best part about this show is that when they talk to this producers and mix engineers they never push Pro Tools, they may mention it in passing because that is the program they all like to use (except for the occasional Fruity Loops shout out) but they never say you can only do what they do in Pro Tools. It is possible in Logic or Cubase to do and sound like they do. I am a Pro Tools user and I love Logic, it's great that this is about the art not the software or hardware.
I think it's one of Bricasti Design but not sure which one. Probably they are talking about presets on it or other reverb/delay which were used along with Bricasti?
I realize it's 4 years ago you asked, but other people may have the same question, so: Comp'ing. Short for compositing. I.e. merging stuff, like when you flatten/merge layers in Photoshop.
Jaycen did Kevin Gates "Islah" album & that album by far is the best mixed HipHop album I heard in the last 10yrs, as far as im concerned hes the best in the game 💯
I am wondering too. All the things he does is more something I would do in the production fase, cause he changes the tone and colour of the bass completely with those plugins. Maybe it works like this in the mix, but we can't hear that, when he just soloes it.
Thank You Jaycen. WOW. Thank You again for the tips and the advise. and also for not B-S-ING us on the gear and technics you use. You just made me 1000% better.
Big Interview : Jaycen's a Gorgan!!! Jaycen's making his own reverb and delay choices and - pitching and changing KIK sounds - HE should be getting "Co-Produced By" credits.... Cause that's Production.. When I deliver files to be mixed,all the stuff is how I want it... All i really expect from a mixer is Eq,Compression,Level Automation,panning And overall polish... Am I doing too much?
+Roger Drakes Depends on how good your engineer is. Sometimes the creative and technical side clash, which ever one is more important in a certain situation will determine if the engineer can offer a technical advantage. Engineer may have a sound choice you find worth scraping a particular creative move for like a certain kick drum. Its no different then a singer hitting the note a little flat and the songwriter says that's fine it adds a little flavor leave it like that.
And this is exactly what separates medium from top shelf engineers. Engineers afraid of sharing their workflow, even calling it secrets, just show insecurity. I truly respect this guy, but he's a 0 to me.
@@alxitso I think you've got him all wrong here. Jaycen is in fact very enthusiastic about sharing quality techniques and helping others as much as possible. Watch Pensado's Place #330 , and you'll know. He's being facetious saying "not to give too many secrets away", because he then gives away as many secrets as he can.
@@shortuts No, he wasn't being facetious. It was a pure freudian slip. He does see his knowledge as secrets. Notthing wrong with that, IMO. We all learn stuff we'd like to keep as a competitive edge. The world is full of imitators and copycats. Also confirmed by his sentence, a little later: "three plugins... but I'll give you one" and the repeated sentence "not to give too many secrets away" a few minutes later.
@@Tazmanian_Ninja A freudian slip would be unintentional. If you want to keep your competitive edge in psychoanalysis, go watch Jaycen in his more recent appearance on Pensado's Place. He's sharing key info left and right.
Dave we need a pensado's place on integrating digital & analog equipment. Signal routing, digital to analog conversion; basically running our sounds through hardware and printing back into protools will us faithful viewers to take the musicality & overall sonic presentation of our mixes to the next level. Thank you, Armen G (TeEmGIFT Låbs)
27:46 scared the hell out of me! hahah
i do too much cocaine for this...
me too
😂
This is the boss "Jaycen Joshua" I'm searching the net for every tip this man gives.
same, especially his usage of saturation
1000!
Rory Panton word
Me too lol
Damn you guys!!! 26:07 made me jump almost taking my whole desk and equipment on the floor!!!
lol
so many nuggets. I literally have to thank Dave and Jaycen for my mixes so much better.
I'll be chopping pillows soon enough haha!
prob one of my favorite ones, for tips that i didn't think of. . .love this show
Jaycen has gems for years, Such an amazing engineer! Studying his work for references & his great sonic taste, Thanks for sharing the knowledge! =)
This show is such a great resource for audio engineers of all skill levels. Much appreciated.
thank you so much.I love the show and the Miley Cyrus song is one of my favorite pop tracks of all time.I wasn't expecting the mixer of that track to be on this episode It's amazing to hear his approach. Mike Will did a great job producing, it's truly a pop gem, a milestone, it's like the track of my dreams. Anyway, thank you again, I love how this is the only show where I could both geek out about a Miley Cyrus song and at the same time about a weird, vintage plugin or piece of gear.
Man! Say it like it is !!! .... Definitely worth watching 3 times !! Ton of info !
Jaycen Joshua is probably my favorite mixing engineer at the moment. Great to see him on the show again! His vocal processing and all his EFX are damn near perfect and very creative every mix I hear from him... Thanks again for another GREAT show guys!
"It's taste that you're selling, and nothing else". Love that.
One of my favorite episodes!
I cant stop watching this geez
I really like the new format in which Dave gets the hit makers of the moment on the show. It is to Dave's and Herb's credit that they knows so many talented people in the industry and I fell very lucky that these technical interviews are available to us.
I was 12 when the Magna Carta Holy Grail record came out. Now I'm 23 and still to this day that is my favorite album. When I found out Jaycen was an engineer I was awestruck
What he said about side chaining the low end of bass when the kick hits is a GEM
+Michael Miller most definitely!!!!
+Theo Bibbs hell yea
+Michael Miller what is GEM ?
A gem is another way of saying a really good piece of advice
damn this whole episode is all GEMS. thank yah all
Jaycen Joshua has to be one of the greatest hip hop mix engineers out there. His kicks do sound really massive and "bounce-y". I noticed that Mike Will often has his kicks hitting along with his snares - and perhaps to keep his peak meter in check, right now Jaycen Joshua seems to have thought it was best to let go of the snare a bit in such a scenario. If there's anything (in my view) he should be going for, it would be perfecting that delicate combination of kicks & snares hitting altogether, towards a more balanced trade where the snare would actually survive the process. Keep it up Jay!
This goes directly into the favourite-playlist.. so much good information in this episode!
Jaycen: "When I say All day, I mean 5 minutes" lol
There was some really, really great advice in this, thank you guys so much for having Jaycen on. I work in a completely different genre of music (Hard Rock/Metal/Extreme metal), but a lot of the advice really crosses over. With that being said, I'd love for you guys to have one of the bigger names in that genre of music on, two suggestions would be Joey Sturgis (who is sure to stir up opinions in the comments!), and Andy Sneap.
Looking at these mixes 7 years apart.
Jaycen Joshua & Derek Ali
The growth
The records
The plaques
when you said he has a lot of things going on the right side of the mix. i was so glad to hear that, i thought my left ear was going out on me. but still it sat amazing in the mix i love it!
I was lucky to have been trained up by an engineer called Brad Davis from NY. You so remind me of him. It makes me smile. I love you Dave.
I know what he means about fl studio instruments are louder when tracked out... I noticed with the latest fl studio versions, when you start a new project, there's a limiter already on the master bus.. I usually take it off right before I make a beat.. Some producers don't...
God, do I hate this DAW.
@@alxitso Ok, and?
@@unclemose Just that.
@@alxitso Ok cool.
@@unclemose Cool.
What a great episode. Thanks for all the hard work!
This guy is a genius!
Man funny he comes across a little secretive and then ends up being one of the most informative guests ever haha! Awesome everyone involved, its things like this that make me glad to be born in this era...
This was the best episode for me, Jaysen brought up two situations that has been on my mind
Dave, I often have similar problems with bass notes sounding drastically louder than others and normal compression never seems to solve the issue.
from watching this ITL I see that you are using the C1 side chain to sort this problem out.
I was wondering how to go about using this plug in to solve the issue. What should I be looking to target when using this plug in? What parameters are essential to getting it right?
cheers
Even though I feel guilty asking for anything more than what you guys have given all of us so far, it would be amazing if Serban Ghenea came on the show!!
Great episode one of my favourites so far! Jaycen was really informative and I feel like I learned a lot from him.
Thank You Pensado's Place and Jaycen Joshua 🙌🙌🙌🙌Very Helpful Video 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
It just keeps getting better !
does gain staging mean making sure the mix bus is not clipping but keeping it at a decent level? so after eq-ing a sound making sure its not clippnig or pushing the mixbuss too far or vice versa...if the level drops after eq-ing adding some gain again?
Hey guys! What is the reverb you are talking about at 18:37?! Please!!! Thank you!
I want to know too
Bricasti
Bricasti M7
This one was great thanks Pensado!
What reverb y’all talking about?
44:18 "...which we do now with ????? which is remarkable..." what does he say there?
I Love Dave & Herb! Another monumental show, indeed! Jaycen Joshua is The Truth! GREAT. ITL, as well! Much Love & Respect to you guys for disclosing "secrets" of pro mix engineers! This is stuff that audio schools don't really teach. These are techniques learned by "assisting" a great Engineer over a period of years! Thanks!! Oh yea... How about bringing on one of hip-hop's influential mixers from the ATL scene, LESLIE BRAITHWAITE!
Got some great info on this! Thanks guys!
Amazing show and super tips!!!
Jaycen Joshua is an extremely talented dude. He's got an intellectual flare to his philosophy -- a philosophy that's very honest and without pretense. That's very rare. He learned from the best, though. ;-)
Who is the mixing engineer that Jaycen mentioned at 41:15?
Dave - legend!!!
I'll be glad glad if someday i make a record that good to be invited and talk. No secrects is the key!
Loving the show from Detroit!
did the one at his studio happen? that would be dope
Can someone tell me the title of the record that they are talking about please?
what reverb are they talking about at 18:40?
Bricast m7
my nigga
Bricasti M7
AMAZING EPISODE! lots of cool tips
this is the only guy that actually shares good shit
What eq or filters do u think are best for splitting tracks into lo/med/hi (like Jaycen mentioned) - so that you don't get overlap or gaps in the freq spectrum?
I think any EQ would do. A parametric EQ typically
at 44:20 what does he say he uses to draw out the esses and t's? It sounds like he is saying click pane, or clip paint or something. Can't be Clip Paint though, cause that's a graphic programme.
Clip gain.
This one is full of gems
@Pensado's Place If those are chain diagram Dave looks down at to get an idea to ask a question, I need those diagrams.... never thought of being that organized.
18:20 what reverb they talking about
Benchod Reverb
Bricasti
lmao at the Tip Of The Century graphics and musical cue coming out of nowhere! Priceless.
One of the best vids!!
one of the best episodes no doubt
The best part about this show is that when they talk to this producers and mix engineers they never push Pro Tools, they may mention it in passing because that is the program they all like to use (except for the occasional Fruity Loops shout out) but they never say you can only do what they do in Pro Tools. It is possible in Logic or Cubase to do and sound like they do. I am a Pro Tools user and I love Logic, it's great that this is about the art not the software or hardware.
Underviewed interview, fo sho.
now I got to go back and start over on all my mixes lol
thank God for 26:10
+stereo_steve You want to make tomorrows Hip Hop record? Study EDM music, word up!
Which reverb is he talking about? @19:10
I think it's one of Bricasti Design but not sure which one. Probably they are talking about presets on it or other reverb/delay which were used along with Bricasti?
Hi, i like your channel but you must put in the first line in the description the name of the artists he worked with
Thanks
48:57 what is that they're saying? Combing down?
I realize it's 4 years ago you asked, but other people may have the same question, so:
Comp'ing. Short for compositing. I.e. merging stuff, like when you flatten/merge layers in Photoshop.
@@Tazmanian_Ninja Hey man, missed your reply. Came back here after 6 years, learned much since then. But thanks and cheers.
@@zeepster Welcome back:)
fucking hell... that izotope trick is so awesome thank you so much for sharing this... this show explodes my mind everytime
17:59
Dave : What a great technique. where did you learn that?
Joshua : You
Jaycen did Kevin Gates "Islah" album & that album by far is the best mixed HipHop album I heard in the last 10yrs, as far as im concerned hes the best in the game 💯
Agree
great episode!
"That can give you a bowel movement" Still the best one liners from Dave.
Can Somebody tell me which record they are making constant reference to please
thanks guys!
Hey guys anyone know of any plugin for mp3 preview for pro tools?
iZotope Ozone Codec Preview or even RoundTripAAC if you're on a Mac
I am wondering too. All the things he does is more something I would do in the production fase, cause he changes the tone and colour of the bass completely with those plugins. Maybe it works like this in the mix, but we can't hear that, when he just soloes it.
what reverb was that???
Bricasti
Cool episode. Not sure about the example in the ITL though, it just sounded very off to me.
the graphics and the jingle of "best tip of the century" thang scared the shit out of me
Thank You Jaycen. WOW. Thank You again for the tips and the advise. and also for not B-S-ING us on the gear and technics you use. You just made me 1000% better.
not gonna get to hear the processed bass in the mix?? ;)
Dave's the man
I mean not only for this video but for every personalities that you receives
what did he say at 21:20? "the breakbeat of Life"
Dope
excellent
Love the TSAR Reverb
Why you guys don't talk like this on technical terms now days episode I'm watch it in 14 may 2021 just bcz his mixing philosophy
15:10 is something that took me years to figure out.
So cool. thanks for this great show.
hey man dont hate, top 40 is the top class of music that comes out and it can sound like anything
Good show!! That tip of the day FX scared the shit out of me twice!!
Don't watch this when you smoke a pound super skunk,.. at least i could smoke another pound after the scare haha
Dave is so funny. xD
Big Interview : Jaycen's a Gorgan!!!
Jaycen's making his own reverb and delay choices and - pitching and changing KIK sounds - HE should be getting "Co-Produced By" credits.... Cause that's Production..
When I deliver files to be mixed,all the stuff is how I want it...
All i really expect from a mixer is Eq,Compression,Level Automation,panning And overall polish... Am I doing too much?
+Roger Drakes Depends on how good your engineer is. Sometimes the creative and technical side clash, which ever one is more important in a certain situation will determine if the engineer can offer a technical advantage. Engineer may have a sound choice you find worth scraping a particular creative move for like a certain kick drum. Its no different then a singer hitting the note a little flat and the songwriter says that's fine it adds a little flavor leave it like that.
dude the tip of the century is so loud it's so funny
damn that was the tip of the century
gold!
Jaycen - Not to give to many secrets away - Joshua
And this is exactly what separates medium from top shelf engineers. Engineers afraid of sharing their workflow, even calling it secrets, just show insecurity. I truly respect this guy, but he's a 0 to me.
@@alxitso I think you've got him all wrong here. Jaycen is in fact very enthusiastic about sharing quality techniques and helping others as much as possible. Watch Pensado's Place #330
, and you'll know. He's being facetious saying "not to give too many secrets away", because he then gives away as many secrets as he can.
@@shortuts No, he wasn't being facetious. It was a pure freudian slip. He does see his knowledge as secrets. Notthing wrong with that, IMO. We all learn stuff we'd like to keep as a competitive edge. The world is full of imitators and copycats.
Also confirmed by his sentence, a little later: "three plugins... but I'll give you one" and the repeated sentence "not to give too many secrets away" a few minutes later.
@@Tazmanian_Ninja A freudian slip would be unintentional. If you want to keep your competitive edge in psychoanalysis, go watch Jaycen in his more recent appearance on Pensado's Place. He's sharing key info left and right.
Dave we need a pensado's place on integrating digital & analog equipment. Signal routing, digital to analog conversion; basically running our sounds through hardware and printing back into protools will us faithful viewers to take the musicality & overall sonic presentation of our mixes to the next level.
Thank you,
Armen G (TeEmGIFT Låbs)