A Close up Look at the HP Z4 G4 Workstation + RTX 3060 Ti Install + PC Game Testing
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2023
- In this video we give you a close up look at the Xeon Version of the HP Z4 G4 Workstation. We'll also show you how to install an RTX 3060 TI Graphics Card in to the system. Plus, we'll test the system with some popular pc game titles.
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Been seeing these for a good deal on eBay lately. Very attractive for us Green PC Gamers. It’s crazy how similar these HP workstations are to the Dell Precision’s.
It's very similar to the Dell Precision T5820.
Yes! I'm eyeing a refurb on Amazon: great price, similar specs as those from the video, and I'll be saving Africa from another computer2Landfill situation. It comes with a high-end Quadro, but I can use my existing Nvidia to get some ooomph!!
Nice! Considering this as my next Pc upgrade... How does it run cyberpunk 2077?
Well, it's a relief to know it works well for your system! My "Cyber Monday" RTX 3060 card just arrived today, unfortunately dual 6-pin to 8-pin adapter won't be here for another week and every PC Component Brick & Mortar in the greater Seattle area has either gone out of business or is only carrying a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter which isn't going to supply the 170 watts this thing likes to slurp... I also got an Asus 4k Pro Art monitor and am looking forward to better color\contrast
esolution for video editing photo viewing as well as the Nvidia GPU horsepower to execute AI functions on photos in a more performant manner! The Quadro T400 card my Z4 G4 came with is woefully inadequate for the latest AI features in photo editing software!
Can you please do a video on HP Z2 G4 tower
Does the front fan of the z4 g4 always spin or it depend on the gpu temp.?
I just purchased an HP Z4 G4 Xeon 2145. Do you have any suggestions in how I can render 4K video faster in using video editing programs such as Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects? I’m not really in tune with hardware, but will a newer GPU and more memory ram help in rendering at a faster speed?
You didn't show any driver install, pulling the old card out, etc. My power connector is on top of the RTX4080 and I don't think the side will go on with it on top, stupid, like that? Will my card work just plopping it in and turning on the unit?
I would very much like to find some resource that explains the Z4 G4 BIOS. It is so different compared to all the other non-workstation PC's I've owned and many of the advanced settings barely result in any matches on google search or give results that do not explain in simple terms some of the more obscure settings. HP does a very lousy job by not providing a comprehensive guide for each setting in the BIOS. If you know of any such resource I would be very grateful. I'm running an almost identical Z4G4 to the one in your video with the exception of the video card which is a RTX 3060 (Gigabyte) 12 GB VRAM and the W-2145 (octa core) and I'm still messing with the BIOS.
You should have tested solitaire and minesweeper to give the graphic card something to do.
Agreed.
Picked up a refurbished one of these on newegg over the holidays becasue my Unraid server died. Mine has the xeon-w 2133 as well. First thing I did was add anther 32GB of ram i had laying around, then I picked up a dual 5.25 drive - to - three 3.5in drive bay adapter for the front of the case, so i can use a total of five 3.5in drives in my system. for disks im running these refurbished toshiba 16TB drives from newegg, they were only like $160 bucks, got two of those and a shucked WD 10TB drive for my main array. The remaining two drive bays I have two 2TB drives that I'm running in a cache pool. The 512GB ssd is also a cache pool...
So I ran it like this for awhile, then I popped in a GTX 1660 Super and a PCI-E USB 3.1 card to the system (I realize these are already on the system, but having a PCI USB card allows me to pass that entire PCI device to a VM)
Then I set up a Windows 11 VM (Using Tiny 11 since it has a lot of the bloat removed), passed the 1660 super and the USB card to the VM, gave the VM all 12 cores (since my server just hosts files and runs plex) and man, I'm really impressed! I do wish there were more drive bays, but as my storage grows I'll get larger disks instead of additional disks. less points of failure I guess.
I can decide what to upgrade next... I think I'd like more CPU cores and something a little faster, this makes the most sense to me because my gaming VM is entire virtualized and this gives me room to grow and to do more projects on the computational side. A better GPU would be nice! But honestly the 1660 super can play every game in my steam library no problem, I guess that's fine for now.
Overall this system has been super affordable for my needs and overall less maintenance than building my own system from scratch (like I had previously.) the only issue I ran into is my unit doesn't have the front PCI-E fan, so adding that USB card to the system prompted an error on bootup, saying its an unsupported configuration because it's missing the fan. :P easy fix for this is a 120MM fan can wedge perfectly in the case under the drive bays, its literally phyusically wedged in there, I hacked the fan connector to plug into the 4 pin fan header on the case and now it boots up with no errror message! lol. annd that fan spins so it has a lil extra flow. pretty cool ha.
thanks for reading my story
Thanks for the good story.
Tell me, amigo, when you say you "hacked the fan connector" do you mean you snipped off some plastic and jammed a 4-pin fan on their goofy 5-pin headers, or something else?
Can i connect using 2 pcie 6 pin to to single 8 pin connector for GTX 1660 super ?
What power supply are you using
Nice clips👍look Z4G4 is mini version with my computer Z6G4. Can you test for me pls, does Z6G4 with Xeon Gold 6140 can be use 64GB ram per slot or only 32GB ram?
We'll add it to the list.
Is there a comparison between Z4G4 and Z840?
Thank you.
I am considering a similar build, but with a W-2133 instead.
Alternately, a Lenovo Thinkstation P520.
But the HP Z4 G4 looks cleaner, and less heavy.
I have both of those computers. They are both great computers but the P520 definitely has much more room inside. My rx-6800 had to go in my P520 because it didn't even fit in the Z4G4. That gets the 3070ti. BTW, go with the w-2145, it's by far the best bang for the buck. 8 core with high clock speeds.
can i get a link to that gpu adapter?
On some Enterprise class PCs the Windows license key is stored on the motherboard, is that the case with these as well? I see a number of these offered on eBay without an OS, which isnt a problem, but would I have to buy a new product key for windows?
You’d have to check with the supplier if the system includes a digital license. Most of the time the recyclers that sell on eBay won’t know how to check. Find a good deal, and consider it a bonus if it comes with a digital license on the system board.
whats up dude, nice video. would it be a wise move to put an rtx 3080/ 4070 in a t3620 with a 750w psu i7 7700 and 32gb ram?
There would be some strong bottlenecking. Go for a 3060ti or 4060.
a great resource
I had the same HP Z4 G4 with 32 GByte ECC Ram installed. Swapped out the NVidia P1000 that came with the PC and installed the GEForce RTX 3060TI just like you showed on the video. Rebooted and the first problem I encountered as this "POST Error. 513-Configuration requires a Front Chassis fan and this fan is not detected. Press ENTER to continue" which I did. So it carried on with the installation. Next problem was only 1 display came on. I have a dual display monitor prior to swapping over to the RTX 3060TI. So I thought perhaps my monitor might have given up the ghost. So I had to reboot and just had only one display monitor on at a time. Both displays worked fine from each of the display ports on the RTX 3060TI. I had to reboot many times to do that test. But it proved that individually, the display ports were fine and the display monitor were fine. But when both display monitors were plugged into the RTX 3060TI ports, it can only detect one monitor. Any idea what is happening here?
you need the hp z4 g4 fan and front card guide kit
Can you do a update video
I'm running a Z4G4 with Xeon W-2125, 32gb RAM and a RTX 4060 8gb, dual nvme:s for storage. Price/performance very good, runs most fps games fluently on 1080p and high/ultra settings. Might need to upgrade the processor cooling though, on some games core temps creep up to over 90c. But overall, very good platform for easy and affordable gaming.
Hey man I was able to score a z4g4 from work as we phased them out about a year ago. Been running my severely outdated gtx1050ti for about a year now and just tonight pulled the trigger on a RTX3060. Got a sweet deal on marketplace. My dual 6 pin to 8 pin adapter will be here tomorrow and I’m looking forward to swapping gpu’s out. Anything you can recommend? Currently have 64g of RAM and the Intel Xenon w-2123. We did beef them up when we ordered them as we run printing RIP engines all day on them. Also scored a liquid cooler ROG 3 fan and was hoping there would be some compatibility over the OE heat sink/fan. It appears to fit but haven’t really dove into it just yet. I really only play BeamNG and ATS with my simulator. So I’m hoping for decent results!
Also have an I9 9900k that I was debating on installing. It came with the GPU/cooler/MSI z390 A Pro mobo. Scooped everything up for $300. What would you recommend?
If you have the xeon board, you'll have to stick with these cpu upgrades:
Xeon W-21XX Series:
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2125 4C 4.0Ghz 8.25MB 8GTs | 4.5Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR3LM)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2133 6C 3.6Ghz 8.25MB 8GTs | 3.9Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR3LL)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2135 6C 3.7Ghz 8.25MB 8GTs | 4.5Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR3LN)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2145 8C 3.70Ghz 11MB 8GTs | 4.5Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SR3LQ)
Xeon W-22XX Series:
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2235 6C 3.8Ghz 8.25MB 8GTs | 4.6Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRGVA)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2245 8C 3.9Ghz 16.5MB 8GTs | 4.7Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRH02)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2255 10C 3.7Ghz 19.25MB 8GTs | 4.7Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRGV8)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2265 12C 3.5Ghz 19.25MB 8GTs | 4.8Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRG5Q)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2275 14C 3.3Ghz 19.25MB 8GTs | 4.8Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRGSP)
Up to 1 x Intel Xeon W-2295 18C 3.0Ghz 24.75MB 8GTs | 4.6Ghz Max Turbo Frequency (SRGSL)
I just got a Lenovo p520 w-2135 32gb 2400mhz quad channel with a rtx 2070, im digging it so far. Play mostly Destiny 2 and God of War both run great 1440p. Swapped out the stock cooler for the ID-COOLING SE-914-XT, and current waiting on my some 2666 dual rank ram to arrive, not sure how much more performance i will gain.
@johnringgold3036 Any improvement with the faster RAM?
@@DTDSasquatch Windows is snappier but games dont feel any different and FPS the same.
How would you compare the noise of the fan to the original cooler?
How much more clearance do you have using that CPU cooler. I'm looking to order a CPU cooler that's 135mm in height. Since the 914 model you're using is 126mm, would you say there's 1cm of room extra? Thanks in advance!
@@TechMatticz the 914 uses a 92mm PWM Fan im not sure what model you are looking at, a 120mm wont fit with the side panel closed.
Trying to install a 1080 in my z4 g4 but keep getting stuck with no boot and graphics beep / lights error. Any idea what's going on?
Did you find the problem?
I got this for free no ram storage or gpu i want it to run PCVR on a quest 2. I see you advise sticking with the rtx 3060ti how much ram would you suggest i get and does it matter what brand? I found VORPX which turns FPS games into VR so all bioshock farcry and dishonoured will be getting replayed
Nice Find! The RTX 3060 TI is a great value graphics card for the Z4 G4 Workstation. 32GB would be a nice amount of memory. We normally like to use Hynix or Samsung modules. If you have the Xeon version, you can use the 2666V/2933Y ECC Reg Modules. If you have the i9 Version, you will have to use 2666V/2933Y unregistered modules. Thanks for commenting!
Thank you i will go with that.@@GreenPCGamerscom
Hey I'm getting the IcoreX i9 version do you know if the model has xmp to overclock ram since it's unregulated
typically HP workstation BIOS doesn't have that kind of control.
Brother I love your video very educational thank you. I have an hp z4g4 and want to upgrade hardware hopefully it wont break the bank. How do o contact you please for support
Use the upgrade guide:
www.greenpcgamers.com/hp/hp-ddr4-based-workstations/hp-z4-g4-gaming-computer-and-hardware-upgrade-guide/
@@GreenPCGamerscom Jesus Thank you Brother You are the KING. Safe week end to you and loved ones. Keep intouch brother
swapping the case to modern one with fans and rgb ,what i need to consider ?
asking the same
You can't, the motherboard isn't the right shape to fit in any other case. It should have good enough airflow by default. For RGB you could put an LED strip to the front and it should be visible through the front air intake, though for ARGB you'd need a controller because the workstation obviously doesn't have an ARGB header. Or you could go with some cheap crappy one which comes with a remote
hello i have a xeon e5 1650 v4 with rx 5700 xt and 32 ddr4 2133 but it seems like i'm not getting the right performance out of the gpu any idea ?
Make sure you have the latest driver installed. Also, is the poor performance happening on multiple games?
i sure have everything updated to the latest version but it i'm just not sure if the cpu is just weak or am i having a really bad bottleneck or is it just normal most of the games run fine but stutters@@GreenPCGamerscom
How has this build worked for you? I just got the z4 g4 and was wondering if this was worth it?
It works well. They are a great value.
@@GreenPCGamerscom hi. I’m having a hard time deciding what gpu to put in my build and was wondering if you had any suggestions? My z4 g4 is slightly different than yours with a Xeon w-2235 and 32 gb ram. Was going to go with a 3060ti like the video but didn’t know if mine could push more than that and I also like the lower wattage of the 4060ti. Or if an amd 12 gb like a 6700 xt or a 3060 12 gb would be better for the extra vram?
@@ninerknight5351 I'm running a Z4 G4 with the Xeon 2145, 32gb ram, 750w psu and an RX 6800, runs nicely and the cpu and gpu seem nicely balanced. My other option was the RTX 3070, but really wanted more than 8gb of vRam for future titles as I don't have the budget to upgrade very often and want this build to last a while.
@@LukeTheJoker This is the exact system I have in every way other than the GPU (3070ti). Mine pushes the 3070ti to it's max so that is a definite option. I would say the 4070 would probably be the top GPU to put in this. Even a 4090 will likely be maxed out on this system as long as you are running 4k or 1440p at ultra settings.
I currently have a Z4G4 with a Xeon W-2275 CPU, 64 GB RAM, and a Quadro P1000 4GB GPU installed. I am planning to upgrade the GPU and potentially also the PSU. Will it be possible to fit in a RTX 4090 with a 1000W PSU inside the Z4G4 tower? The recommended GPU upgrades on HP's website all seem to be relatively older GPUs. The system will mainly be used for ML training and inference, so I am looking for a GPU with larger VRAM (>16 GB)
I wouldn't recommend upgrading to a 4090, but something more like a 3060ti as you'll probably see CPU bottlenecks pretty badly since the cpu is from Intel 6/7th generation. I'd say go with the best card you can get that uses a single 8 pin pcie cable and just enjoy the system. It'll be a massive upgrade to your current gpu all without the need to put more money into the prebuilt.
@@TechMatticz What saturates a GPU greatly depends on what resolution you are looking to game. If you want to game at 1440p or 4k ultra, a high clock speed xeon like the w-2145 will even saturate the 4090 in most games.
@@gametime2473 valid point, but at the same time the power supply in these units might be rated for 900w but putting a 400w card could put the final nail in the coffin on those workstation units. I'm not even sure if they come with 3- 8 pin pcie connectors for that kind of draw.
Besides, the whole point of gaming with an old workstation is to game efficiently at a budget. If you're putting $2-300 into an old workstation like this and then wanting to throw in a $1500 GPU, that just doesn't make sense to do. Can the cpu handle it? Sure it can at high resolutions... but I wouldn't trust an old workstation I bought for 20% of a 4090 to feed 400w of power through. Throw a $3-600 card in it that doesn't pull a ton of power and call it a day :)
Thank you for the replies, but as I mentioned in my original question, I intend to use this machine exclusively for Machine Learning training and inference work, not for gaming at all. Hence, my main need is a powerful, high VRAM GPU with plenty of cuda and tensor cores. I have so far never even gotten close to overloading the 14 core Xeon CPU or the 64 GB RAM for that matter, but I frequently face memory allocation issues with my current 4 GB VRAM Quadro P1000.
Kindly need your advice if i will have bottleneck if i use RTX 4070 TI or RTX 3090 TI
Noting that my processor intel xeon w-2295 and my RAM will be 32 GB
There would most likely be strong bottlenecking with the RTX 3090 TI. The RTX 4070 TI would be a better choice.
@@GreenPCGamerscom What about an RTX 4060? I am only concerned with 1080p, and the power draw seems good.
do i need to change the processor to install a 3060 graphic card? cuz i dont want my pc to burn
Do you mean your power supply?
why would you change the processor to use the 3060 xD?
@@GreenPCGamerscom ye
Bottom line why? casn it go further to window's 11 asnd move to hold a newer i7 series motherboard & cpu. In other words is it an upgradeable pwr Sup & Case
how did you enter to the bios?
F10
How to update tpm on z440 i tried all and not updated
For Windows 11? You could use rufus to bypass the requirement, the CPU you have is too old to be officially supported anyway. The HP Z4/Z6/Z8 G4 are the oldest officially Win11 supported workstations from HP.
i have HP Z6 G4 with Intel Silver xeon 4114 and rtx 3060 ti gaming z trio but im not satisfied. I don't get good fps like must be from one rtx 3060 ti card. Something must be wrong.
Regarde si tu as des drivers Nvidia Game Ready car les studio ne fonctionnent pas bien. Bonne chance
Hey bro, cpu Xeon Silver infact so week, very week same as Core i3 or celeron may be. It only better to compare with them when you run multi & heavy program, very good and much better loading 👍 i also using Hp Z6G4 and after change to cpu Xeon Gold everything changed to perfect👍also single or multi program
The Silver and Gold CPUs aren't made for gaming but the good news is that they are more expensive than the ones that are. Sell your 4114 and grab a w-2145. That is 8 cores of high clock speed goodness (3.7ghz base with 4.5ghz boost) and well under 100 bucks.
clearly the cpu not keeping up with gpu at 1080, certainly should play on 1440 to give more job to do for gpu that will allow cpu to breath
Always sme boring shooting games 😴😴😴
What games would you like to see?
2nd