Use Low Stick Sensitivity if you have C-Stick set to Smash Attacks and vice-versa for Tilts. No reasons to leave it on Normal unless you don’t use the C-Stick for anything.
@@MerryBlind completely agree. Also, if you have C-stick on smash attack, you probably have to turn off tap jump if you ever want to do an up-tilt... But personally I think tilt stick is superior. If you have C-stick on smash attack, then you can't charge them which means you are missing out on a bunch of timing options and limiting the power of your smash attacks. Of course you could input smash attacks two different ways depending on whether you want to charge them but why would you put yourself through that?
You are a lifesaver. It's my first time playing super smash bros and the uptilts were almost impossible for me outside of a training scenario. I had no idea I can map the right stick to Tilt Attacks. This changes so much and gives me a chance to actually learn combos and be able to progress and not just button mash. It's probably trivial for seasoned players but for noobs like me it's a game changer. Much appreciated!
@@Gamerrelm1.0_relm Not related whatsoever. Somebody genuinely trying to get better at a game has nothing to do with winning or losing. He also was not complaining about losing either.
I have 2 control setups which are almost the same One of them has right stick tilt for some characters who benefit from tilts One for Smash attacks for characters like _______ busted
I really like these controls, I think having Grab and Shield blinded to the shoulder buttons is the way to go. I personally have the jump and grab swapped around but apart from that mine are the same
If you use tilt on R stick, make sensitivity high just like this video suggests, if you keep smash attacks on R stick, change sensitivity to low for more consistent tilt attacks.
Love your vidoes, man. I've mained Ike (and Link) since Brawl, so I have quite a few years with the Radiant Hero under my belt, but there's always something new to learn. Keep up the good work!
The only other smash i ever played was 64, so i use the lower buttons for special, attack, and jump, with grab as X. Tilt attack and no jumping with the primary stick is an absolute godsend, yeah. I might try adding grab and jump to the L buttons and triggers, thanks.
I have Jump on the Right Trigger. Pressing X+ZR to actually use the short-hop macro is very comfortable because it’s like one gripping movement with your right hand. Otherwise any shoulder or trigger works just for jumping, just preferences. Though I actually find having Jump on the Left Trigger makes IDJ easier to execute…
Tap Jump can be useful to jump and do aerials with the C-Stick, but assigning a shoulder/trigger button to Jump as you’ve recommended is better for that purpose anyway.
The problem is when you play as inkling? , holding the shield and B button only refils the ink without moving the shield with the analog stick Tip : When you go to the control settings , simply replace the ZL grab with Shield , one you fixed it , You can move the shield with two ZL shoulder buttons while you play as inkling , it's amazingly simple!
I have the same controller setup, but I sometimes do tilts instead of smash attacks. How do you consistently do smash attacks without accidentally doing a tilt?
Can you explain this more; I have difficulty consistently getting drag down up-air d-smash as Joker on people , they almost always have time to shield the smash attack.
@@DiverseStyle during the upair start holding the A button and when you land you can press the B button (still holding A) while in landing lag to buffer down smash for more info Esam talks about it in his "My Control Scheme and WHY" video starting at 7:30 another tip is remember to use the fourth hit of upair (second to last hit) for the largest time window
with mario my settings are both L are shield R1 is jump and R2 is grab and Y is also shield is easier to tech for me and parry when i use double shield i press L2 and Y and my c stick is smash attack and with pokemon trainer i use C stick and the same setting
I’m not sure if it’s just a me thing, but I tried using tilt stick and it just feels unresponsive to me, like sometimes it just won’t activate a tilt attack, most often when I’m running. With smash stick, if I press the stick while running it’ll do a dash but with tilt it’ll just do nothing. Is there something I need to change for this to work properly or is there just something I’m missing?
Kinda late, but why isn't there a way to put smash/tilt attacks on buttons? I used to play brawl (wiimote+nunchuck) and ssf2 (controller) and you could do that. I have some difficulies directioning the right stick so I sometimes do sides instead of ups and viceversa
I have a rival In school that beat my ass with septhiroth and meta knight and I was wondering why I couldn't combo, like I wasn't bad at I could do 2 -3 chain attacks. But I noticed that I literally couldn't tilt attack because I had to keep my movement going.
I’m having so much trouble doing Luigi’s 0 to death after I do the short hop into down nair I have to fast fall and do a nair and I can never get that fast fall nair
What are your thoughts on having two shield buttons? I know if you hold two shield buttons at once you can angle your shield without the risk of accidentally inputting a roll, but I don't know how useful that is. Maybe it will save you from a shield poke now and then? Frankly I'm nowhere near a high enough level for this to matter, but it's fun to think about...
I'm late to the Ultimate game (literally just bought it). I have played Smash 64 and no others until now so the control scheme of Ultimate is VERY backwards to me... I know, I'm an old-schooler. Do you recommend a certain Pro controller layout that would feel natural for me (on an N64 controller: using the yellow c buttons to jump, higher button (B) = specials, lower button (A) for attacks) or should I just get used to the new controller scheme?
set attack to b, special to y, jump to x and a, grab to r, and shield to zl the right stick has no equivalent on a smash 64 controller, you can get used to it once you're comfortable with the rest
You mean I've been playing with a handicap for years?! I always wondered why I struggled with using tilt attacks when all I had to do was bind them to the c stick 😂
So, I have my jump set on the right shoulder, but it’s easier for me to consistently get short hops when I use Y to jump. Curious if you have any advice for consistency
It’s all preference really, I know people who use right or left. As for short hops I also find it easier with the face button but it’s all practice really
I keep finding myself overlapping controls on the pro controller? even though tilts are set to the right stick i can still input them by pressing left stick and a. is this supposed to happen? it keeps causing me to misinput tilts instead of smashes
Do you have any recommendations for how to further optimize controls? Leave your response here!
How do you mash with pro controller, I always get worried with mashing with my pro controller thinking I might cause it to drift or break something
How do you mash with pro controller, I always get worried with mashing with my pro controller thinking I might cause it to drift or break something
Use Low Stick Sensitivity if you have C-Stick set to Smash Attacks and vice-versa for Tilts. No reasons to leave it on Normal unless you don’t use the C-Stick for anything.
@@manga9695 tbh.. have a warranty that lets you replace it for $10 lol
@@MerryBlind completely agree. Also, if you have C-stick on smash attack, you probably have to turn off tap jump if you ever want to do an up-tilt...
But personally I think tilt stick is superior. If you have C-stick on smash attack, then you can't charge them which means you are missing out on a bunch of timing options and limiting the power of your smash attacks. Of course you could input smash attacks two different ways depending on whether you want to charge them but why would you put yourself through that?
You are a lifesaver. It's my first time playing super smash bros and the uptilts were almost impossible for me outside of a training scenario. I had no idea I can map the right stick to Tilt Attacks. This changes so much and gives me a chance to actually learn combos and be able to progress and not just button mash. It's probably trivial for seasoned players but for noobs like me it's a game changer. Much appreciated!
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Turning stick jump off has been such a massive change. When I remember that it doesn't jump at least.
You should make a video about mentality, that's one of the things that always causes me to lose
Already on my checklist of vid ideas!
@@Gamerrelm1.0_relm Not related whatsoever. Somebody genuinely trying to get better at a game has nothing to do with winning or losing. He also was not complaining about losing either.
@@HugeGoober you mad bruh
@@Gamerrelm1.0_relm No, just saying that your statement was pretty wrong.
@@SoloJones have you already made the video?
The extra jump on the face buttons is useful for doing short hop specials since it’s the same action as a short hop aerials
Well a shoulder jump short hop can help
I never thought about the right stick being a tilt attack. Defenitly works.
I have 2 control setups which are almost the same
One of them has right stick tilt for some characters who benefit from tilts
One for Smash attacks for characters like _______ busted
I really like these controls, I think having Grab and Shield blinded to the shoulder buttons is the way to go. I personally have the jump and grab swapped around but apart from that mine are the same
Bro I just watched this and had no idea I could change my stick to tilt attack, been playing handicap this entire time trying to do it without it set
Have you gotten better without it?
This was a very well put together video, thanks solo
Dude your quality is only improving. I love it a ton!
If you use tilt on R stick, make sensitivity high just like this video suggests, if you keep smash attacks on R stick, change sensitivity to low for more consistent tilt attacks.
Love your vidoes, man. I've mained Ike (and Link) since Brawl, so I have quite a few years with the Radiant Hero under my belt, but there's always something new to learn. Keep up the good work!
The only other smash i ever played was 64, so i use the lower buttons for special, attack, and jump, with grab as X. Tilt attack and no jumping with the primary stick is an absolute godsend, yeah. I might try adding grab and jump to the L buttons and triggers, thanks.
I have Jump on the Right Trigger. Pressing X+ZR to actually use the short-hop macro is very comfortable because it’s like one gripping movement with your right hand. Otherwise any shoulder or trigger works just for jumping, just preferences.
Though I actually find having Jump on the Left Trigger makes IDJ easier to execute…
Wow, had no idea that was a macro, thank you. Personally though, X+ZR doesn't feel good unless you're in claw grip because you can't use the C-stick.
I actually used the L1 jump before to use jokers jump while fireing his gun to make that cool stunt
Tap Jump can be useful to jump and do aerials with the C-Stick, but assigning a shoulder/trigger button to Jump as you’ve recommended is better for that purpose anyway.
Using Tap Jump can also make IDJs easier to perform
@@manga9695 True I’ve heard that too but haven’t tested it.
@@manga9695 True but I really don't think it's worth it, IDJs are not that hard with shoulder jump
I don’t use Tap Jump because it interferes with my up specials out of shield.
@@ErenYeager-oi6hu Of course. I don’t like it either and never have even back on 64.
As someone who's played primarily Melee and Brawl, this was v
ery useful!
im maining bayonetta and the change to tilt attack was so useful thank you so much
This video already helped me set up a way for my chrom and comfortable tilts, thank you so much!
Shoutouts to bumper jumper! best way to do aerials with c stick for sure
👍Great video of explaining it all in detail this video can really help people.
I'm an oddball, I use X for special, Y for grab, and B for shield
The problem is when you play as inkling? , holding the shield and B button only refils the ink without moving the shield with the analog stick
Tip : When you go to the control settings , simply replace the ZL grab with Shield , one you fixed it , You can move the shield with two ZL shoulder buttons while you play as inkling , it's amazingly simple!
Changing jump to jump is optimal 6:31
0:28 i use pro because x and y are closer for jump attacks and oos options.
Is time to grind some aerials and spacing
I have the same controller setup, but I sometimes do tilts instead of smash attacks. How do you consistently do smash attacks without accidentally doing a tilt?
A+B smash attack is good for finishing after dragdowns
Can you explain this more; I have difficulty consistently getting drag down up-air d-smash as Joker on people , they almost always have time to shield the smash attack.
@@DiverseStyle during the upair start holding the A button and when you land you can press the B button (still holding A) while in landing lag to buffer down smash
for more info Esam talks about it in his "My Control Scheme and WHY" video starting at 7:30
another tip is remember to use the fourth hit of upair (second to last hit) for the largest time window
im completely lost on how to play with these controls how do you hold the controller
Great info thanks
with mario my settings are both L are shield R1 is jump and R2 is grab and Y is also shield is easier to tech for me and parry when i use double shield i press L2 and Y and my c stick is smash attack and with pokemon trainer i use C stick and the same setting
Thx man you really helped me
I’m not sure if it’s just a me thing, but I tried using tilt stick and it just feels unresponsive to me, like sometimes it just won’t activate a tilt attack, most often when I’m running. With smash stick, if I press the stick while running it’ll do a dash but with tilt it’ll just do nothing. Is there something I need to change for this to work properly or is there just something I’m missing?
Very clear video
I use y for attacks and x for specials and b for jump
Could you go more into the benefits of not using the stick jump?
It helps with moves directed upwards
Kinda late, but why isn't there a way to put smash/tilt attacks on buttons? I used to play brawl (wiimote+nunchuck) and ssf2 (controller) and you could do that. I have some difficulies directioning the right stick so I sometimes do sides instead of ups and viceversa
The problem I have with me is I’m more used to to the stick jump than not having it on and I might not live long to have this kind of control scheme
Thanks for sharing
I find funny that im actually using this controls for rival of earther's :]]] thannks btw
I have a rival In school that beat my ass with septhiroth and meta knight and I was wondering why I couldn't combo, like I wasn't bad at I could do 2 -3 chain attacks. But I noticed that I literally couldn't tilt attack because I had to keep my movement going.
all the other controls are the same but i have jump on b attack on y and special on a. will that come to go against me in the future?
I’m having so much trouble doing Luigi’s 0 to death after I do the short hop into down nair I have to fast fall and do a nair and I can never get that fast fall nair
How do I hold smash attack with these controls
My pro controller almost always don't move when I moved the joystick or press the button, I think it has a lag input but I don't know how to fix it.
I turn X into Attack and L to Jump. Then I make a Tilt Stick attack variant. Always turn off Up Stick jumping.
I would like being able to perform tilts with the D-Pad, but it’s sadly not possible
What are your thoughts on having two shield buttons? I know if you hold two shield buttons at once you can angle your shield without the risk of accidentally inputting a roll, but I don't know how useful that is. Maybe it will save you from a shield poke now and then? Frankly I'm nowhere near a high enough level for this to matter, but it's fun to think about...
I've never felt the need for it, but if it helps you and you have enough buttons go for it! I just angle my shield by slightly tilting
U can also hold shield plus b to do the same thing
My binds are shield on right, grab on left, and no stick jump. Everything else is default, also I never use the triggers
How do you wind up a smash attack with these settings though?
I don’t know if anyone knows this but you can do a nair with the right stick in the air!
How
@@fiddyownz i think he's taking about flicking the right stick 1 frame before pressing jump
Why not make Y attack instead of A because it is closer to the c stick and it will save you time
Is it weird that I have X set to Attack? It makes it easier for me to set up combos but I'm curious to see if anyone else has this set up
So I have my right stick set to tilt attacks, but sometimes it gives me Smash attacks? What am I doing wrong
i try to use your controls bc i think they are very good
I'm late to the Ultimate game (literally just bought it). I have played Smash 64 and no others until now so the control scheme of Ultimate is VERY backwards to me... I know, I'm an old-schooler. Do you recommend a certain Pro controller layout that would feel natural for me (on an N64 controller: using the yellow c buttons to jump, higher button (B) = specials, lower button (A) for attacks) or should I just get used to the new controller scheme?
set attack to b, special to y, jump to x and a, grab to r, and shield to zl
the right stick has no equivalent on a smash 64 controller, you can get used to it once you're comfortable with the rest
You mean I've been playing with a handicap for years?! I always wondered why I struggled with using tilt attacks when all I had to do was bind them to the c stick 😂
I’m planning to get a Nintendo switch lite and start playing smash, do you think you could still get really good at smash with a switch lite??
how do you best imput a short hop falling upair fast fall?
So, I have my jump set on the right shoulder, but it’s easier for me to consistently get short hops when I use Y to jump. Curious if you have any advice for consistency
It’s all preference really, I know people who use right or left. As for short hops I also find it easier with the face button but it’s all practice really
Are these good for joycon drift? I have drift on my red joycon so my smash attacks come out of no where
Are GameCube controllers better for inputs in Smash?
I didn't expect this to be so useful, time to kick more ass with Ike 😛
my settings are not saving?
Make sure you're using the profile with the settings
I keep finding myself overlapping controls on the pro controller? even though tilts are set to the right stick i can still input them by pressing left stick and a. is this supposed to happen? it keeps causing me to misinput tilts instead of smashes
Yes, set your stick sens to high.
I use the jump buttons on my right bumper instead of my left idk why but for me it’s more pleasing that way for me 😂
Dont you need 2 shield buttons to have control over your shield and move it around?
Tilt stick pog!
Thanks
lol ya i def tilt jump from brawl im trying to stop tho coz ive heard its bad
Yo the real benefit to GameCube controller is how much easier it is to play claw grip
ZR to jump, changed my life
Might want another shield button for shield tilting
Does it matter if my jump button is a trigger or a bumper
Not really! Basically preference
Shoulder jump is so important to me but I need it on left shoulder “Z”
thx
I swear I wish Nintendo created a GameCube controller with TWO fucking “Z” buttons
shield goes on the left and grab on the right L/R buttons otherwise you are a proper savage
Stick is smash for life, I DON'T NEED TILTS I'M THE VIDEO GAME PLAYER OF ALL TIME.
I'm probably just bad but smash attacks are difficult now :/
what so how do u smash attack without c stick or a+b?
Left stick and A at the same time
Looking at your controls makes my setup look too complicated 😂
Ever since people found out I used b to jumó I was put in an asylum
No one ever talks about joy-cons
Hi
Weird we would of considered this cheating back in the day - haha -
22nd
Ewww jump stick off and L jump wtf
I have jump set to left trigger