This is a totally pedantic comedy nerd move of me but... that's not how the joke works. You're supposed to repeat the thing you say originally. "Shane is a great comedian, I walked in here and said wow what a great comedian."
Knowing a few things about ww1 doesn't make u a history buff. He said it was Austria in ww1? Na bro it was the Austro-Hungarian empire that was involved in ww1. Multiple new countries were born when that empire fell in 1918.
I love how Shane is kind of like Norm in the sense that he's actually a smart and knowledgeable guy but likes to play the dumbest guy in the room and just make people laugh
Way different though, I'm a fan of both these guys. Shane, a fan of history and is quick to correct anybody who brings up a historical fact. Norm in all the clips I've seen never corrected anyone on any of the facts. He always cracked jokes with everybody, even when they talking about stuff more serious. At the end of the day both guys are funny and incomparable.
@@allsmightykill Yeah I didn't say they were the same person, just that they are similar in the sense that they are smarter than they let on and like to play the fool for the sake of comedy.
I remember on one of the "parks" episodes someone said Shane actually has a degree in history, I forgot what type of degree, but good enough that he could teach college-level history
Norm had much less ego though. He never felt compelled to defend himself or his points with emotion. He would destroy people with a smile in his face while he, himself never coming off annoyed or feeling disrespected. No shade on Shane. Norm was just God level genius troll comedian.
He made a wrong conclusion tough. The assasination was the trigger but not the reason. The real reason was disagreement over the division of Africa and its spoils between Europeans. So they were already ready for war, so if the assasination did not happen something else would have caused it.
@@mucuk5383 Africa was not the reason at all lol. The vast majority of African colonies were glorified money sinks. They were extremely unprofitable to maintain and colonial powers only wanted them for the prestige of having more colonies than the next guy.
I enjoy it as well. I'm someone who's not incredibly well versed in history but am very interested in it. Seems like a lot of the "history bros" are upset because he doesn't get every little detail right. He's not teaching a damn lesson, he's just talking with a friend. Jeez people
The assassination (in Sarajevo, Bosnia) was more an event which sparked ww1 not the cause of it. The treaties involving the two major factions in Europe to help each other were signed years before 1914. Germany had also been involved in a naval arms race with Britain for decades. And territorial disputes between France and Germany over the Alsace region, Italy with the Trentino etc. So war was inevitable, they just needed an excuse. Every country was making their own preparations for it.
This. Nobody wanted Germany to advance further because they were a terrifying military power but they had no access to oil which was the one thing that crippled them. Germany was building a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. The first British battalion deployed in WW1 was in Basrah, Iraq and the railway was also bombed.
Many modern historians believe that the war was indeed not inevitable as once flaunted. For example the morocco crisis before could have very easily sparked such a world war but was resolved peacefully. As well as the Balkan wars were close to starting war when Russia considered mobilizing to take Constantinople leading up to ww1. I would agree the assassination was not a very important event at the time. No one thought it would lead to the world war but it did, and at several points the war could have been avoided. It was not like the Germans actually wanted a war, the Austrians certainly wanted a war but against Serbia, None of the citizens wanted a war, but once it happened they put full support behind their respective sides. Even the respective "leaders" the kaiser and tsar were very hesitant, Wilhelm was sent to his yacht to avoid his interference and the tsar famously went back and forth until the generals stopped listening and just went with mobilization.
No war is inevitable. One of the big problems is that all major players FELT it was inevitable, and therefor took no serious steps to mitigate the crisis in july 1914. WW1 could have been settled like any other Balkan dispute. But you're right that there were underlying causes, but there always are those. It didn't have to turn into a major war the way it did. France and Germany could have duked it out like they did 1870.
@@puckered603699% of people dont know history at all and dont care to learn it. the amount of people that will learn something from this podcast is a blessing in itself.
WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.
My great grandfather, William Downes fought in WW1. He was part of the Durham Light Infantry and saw action in The Somme and Ypres. He was mustard gassed but survived and came home. It was horrendous conditions and the war was the bridge to modern warfare, where tanks were created and used for the first time and there was aircraft combat. If anyone is interested in WW1 watch Peter Jacksons, They Shall Not Grow Old. It's a fantastic glimpse into what it was like.
@NicLuc "They shall not grow old" was a great documentary BUT I recently found this one from BBC and it took absolutely new point of view on the WW1. Literaly! It is about the importance of aerial photography which started there and they found some new photos which we didn't knew exists. So they started to analyze them!👍 The documentary is called: "The First World War from Above" LINK: ua-cam.com/video/KtmDJUI06wg/v-deo.htmlsi=TBjiTJ5_4sEy6iCF Anyway, best wishes to all decent Americans from Prague, Czech republic! 🇨🇿🗽🇺🇲
My 2nd great grandfather, Fought for the Royal army, and when they discharged him ( story is fuzzy on why) he went to Canada and joined up to go back. Man Hated Germans.
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Yes!! From the very first month of the war you think to yourself "this is the most horrific thing I've heard," and every year gets worse than the year before.
I would argue that it’s the other way around: you don’t get the insights that Shane and other comedians get without being deeply curious and/or introspective. They amplify insights in a way that resonates with people, which means they have to package something insightful in a novel way, and with comedy specifically, they have to make it look natural or accidental (in Shane’s case).
@@Longo556 what? being introspective doesn’t mean you instantly have an interest in art. and that first part you said , how tf does anything you typed argue that it DOESNT show him as multifaceted?
@@dykemoderI was saying that the multifaceted aspect is a product of being curious and asserting that the relationship is causal. I didn’t see our views as opposing, I was suggesting that it’s deeper than just being multifaceted. But honestly, I wouldn’t consider him multifaceted just from his cursory, elective-level art history knowledge.
@@dykemoder He's saying that anyone with that innate curiousity will also be multi-faceted. That's just a result of being constantly curious and wanting to learn new things.
I would love to hear Shane talk more history. He's a great comedian but you can tell he is passionate about history. I watched his short series with Louis C.K on the US presidents and it was incredibly interesting and hilarious at times. I could listen to him talk history all day. Maybe thats just me though lol
@@RedRedMCmusicthey’re these dark paintings that he did for himself, never sold any and were only found after he died they’re now his most famous works if you search Goya it’s what pops up on images
@@RedRedMCmusicGoya was a famous painter, he actually had colorful pieces that were even owned by the Royal Family of Spain. But then the Napoleonic Wars happened. Napoleon walked into Spain with the excuse of invading Portugal, which of course resulted in the invasion of Spain. While in occupation the civilians in Madrid rebelled against the french troops. Of course this went horribly for the civilians. Goya witnessed the monstrosity of the acts of the french against the Spanish civilians. After this he secluded to his home and slowly went mad while losing his senses (hearing, sight) and while in seclusion he created the Dark Paintings. Depictions of witches, demons and atrocities that reflected the horrors he saw and lived.
I wrote a paper in Uni comparing the print series both Dix and Goya did seperately in regards to war and their comparisons. Pleasant surprise hearing 2 of my favourite artists being talked about.
goya is such a dude. im from the same city, and we have a big ass cathedral called "El Pilar" full of his paintings, specially the "frescos" in the roofs. i was baptised there. 5 min away theres a palace-museum with his carvings, that are kind of protest-painting. sick dude. spain is suck a place let me tell you that, i miss it so bad :_(
I watched All Quiet on the Western Front and have been reading a lot about WW1 recently and it was truly a terrifying war. The idea of going over the top to take a trench in no man's land which looks like hell is quite horrifying I mean it is not a coincidence that Tolkien got a lot of his inspiration for middle earth from fighting in the war. The Battle of Verdun is such a terrifying battle and hearing about people drowning in mud is crazy. The worst thing about the war is the idea that technology can outpace human ability and it is a reminder that in a society that is getting technologically advanced so quick we might not have a way to combat these killing machines we've created.
Talking about Goya (loved it), one of the most important painters. Considered a father of modern art., painting everyday people and royalty in a realistic way (no filters)
The museum with Goya's black paintings is incredible, but you also see his earlier works which were so happy and beautiful. My favorite was Colossus, incredible painting to see in person.
Being a history nerd myself I love listening when Shane comes on and speaks about these things. Edit: I’m aware he doesn’t paint the whole picture when it comes to context but it’s funny to listen to him speak about history. If you know history well enough yourself you can plug in the missing pieces or do some of you need to be spoon fed everything?
Yeah he's very relateable, this is exactly how most regular guys speak about history. I still think him and Louise should team up with a based history podcaster like Carlin or Martyr Made and do a once a month podcast or even just a limited series, it would do serious numbers surely. The history guy has to be based though because some ghey liberal history cuck going "akshually" every ten minutes would ruin it.
He didn’t lose his mind. He got sick maybe and lost his hearing. The dark painting were, in my opinion sort of experimental work. It had some darkness to it but some playfulness to it. He was one of the last masters and one of the first modern artist. Some of his work looks like impressionist if you see the dabs of paint. If you study deeper you’ll see that the paintings of witches were done for a woman that didn’t believe in superstition. Look at his Caprichos series. “El sueño de la razón produce monstruos” which translates to “ The sleep of reason produces monsters” There’s a lot of satire.
I appreciate how into history Shane is. You can tell he is genuinely interested in historica topics. He's clearly passionate about the subject and Joe honestly seems like a good friend oooohing and ahhhing at something a friend is talking about that you have no interest in lol.
"The Great War" youtube series by indie neidel is absolutely fantastic. WW1 was hell on earth and also extremely interesting and complex. As horrific as it was, gas was actually not too effective and artillery was the #1 cause of casualties by far. They were basically raining shells on each other the whole time. I couldn't imagine being in the trenches.
I really kind of hate the second one. Seems kind of fake and hammered out if you ask me. Also, more importantly, it barely got a chuckle out of me mckuskers was even worse. But i kind of knew it would be. Matts a really funny podcast host/guest not a standup comedian. .@@ryanh1275
Not funny at all to me personally but objectively speaking I can see how others would think the opposite. Nothing wrong with that & comedians, we all have different sense of humors.
Dan Carlin's podcast on WW1 "Blueprint for Armageddon" is the best on the subject that I've ever experienced. It's immersive, thorough, and explains the political, technological, military, and human experience for a conflict that is difficult to study and understand
Dan Carlin is excellent. The way he talks about how you would see every stage of human decay from allies who had died that day to allies who had died months ago but they couldn't get out to clear the bodies really stuck with me. It also blew my mind that they would go home for a couple of weeks and then have to go back to that!
@@anangrymanatee8830 its no longer on youtube or spotify im pretty sure its now locked behind a paywall on his website. Though i remember it being a really good story, he embellishes a little and uses some common myths but he is a very very good story teller and researcher for the most part.
Lord of the Rings was inspired by Tokien's time in the trenches of WW1. Robert Heinlein was inspired to write Starship Troopers from his time in the American navy in WW2. He served in the Atlantic so a ton of his writing contains descriptions of men coming back to "spaceships" after getting ripped to shreds in whatever war they engaged in.
@@dant3175 war is when the most advanced animals on this earth decide to organize and kill eachother. War used to be ceremonial till the industrial revolution, then it kept getting worse.
@@dant3175 I think that's sort of a distorted perspective...on a distorted perspective. I get what you mean, I think, and yes, war is definitely one of the most extreme experiences you can have, but to say that some combat veteran below the age of 20 knows more about life than someone in their 50s just seems wrong. War likely teaches certain things really hard and fast, but its extremeness also means that it's pretty limited when it comes to teaching many other, more commonly shared things in life. Furthermore, I'm sure what a young combat veteran thinks he knows about life after one tour is different from what an older combat veteran with multiple tours, then several years out of war to reflect, knows about life, so age is still a factor. To put it another way, while I'd love to listen to and learn from your example of an 18-year-old Ukrainian kid who's seen combat, I think I'd end up learning a lot more from some average Joe who's had multiple jobs, lived in different places, and had children, then grandchildren.
He’s more versed than the average American, but that’s not saying much. The British empire started WWI to destroy the prosperous and soon to be powerful Germany. If you’re interested in the actual world changing events, Read- Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War Or listen to James Corbett and his guest discuss the book on- The Corbett Report. History is written by the victors- the Roman/British/American empire. That doesn’t make their stories true.
Shane is actually such a learned interesting person. Loves the arts and history but yet doesn’t feel the need to die his hair blue lol. Very happy to see him succeeding and wish him all the best
No cause I’m the same way I just feel it’s become trendy to say you’re an artist when in reality you do nothing truly creative. Just a disproportionate amount of people who have no knowledge or skills just want to look the part when in reality it’s regular guys like Shane who are soo much more interesting without trying just having genuine interest
theres a weird, annoying elitism on both sides of that spectrum. The ones that dye their hair blue to flaunt their "love of the arts" to everyone, and the ones who love the arts but instead flaunt that they dont feel the need t dye their hair blue and dont shut the fuck up about it
I remember watching the first episode with Shane and how hard he tried to get Joe to accept him and now, he's like "shut up Joe." "Is what I'm saying for this podcast?" love it. Way to be the man Shane!😂
Shane hitting Joe with the “pause” when he was describing that kick to the head around 27-28 min mark in this pod is one of the funniest moments in recent JRE
Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Blueprint for Armageddon episodes about WW1 are an absolute must for anyone interested in WW1. Such an absolute horror that easily gets overshadowed by WW2.
calm down . he knows some basic partial history . its cool to know about stuff , but your comment couldn't be more hyperbolic and down right ridiculous .
The comedic instincts the start singing "It aint nuthin, but a good time" when discussing trench war fare and wolves eating soldiers is why Shane Gillis is one of the best doing it right now.
A history prof of mine once said that we can look at the period from the beginning of WWI to the end of WWII as one big war with an economic war in between the two armed conflicts.
I love learning my history from Shane. He should make a UA-cam channel or podcast where he explains major events in history while getting drunk and making jokes
You've probably seen his four part eight hours of podcasting with Lious CK where they cover every president of the United States from 1776 to present. Anyone who hasn't watched it should check it out.
just watch the various documentaries on youtube about history. that's probably where he got atleast some of his information, most of the documentaries are pretty well done.
WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that WW1 wasn’t really about the assassination. Each nation had their own goals and Germany had been looking to make a move anyway, the killing of the archduke was just what set everything off.
WW1 started because of an unwillingness of those in power to stop the dominoes from falling. Sure, each country had its share of warhawks and revanchists, but could've been kept in check by stronger leaders.
Pretty much. Germany was a fairly new country, all the old European dynasties fully expected a war with this 'upstart', it was brewing for a long time and everyone knew it. Serbia and Austria-Hungary were basically irrelevant backwaters at that point but they provided the excuse to settle old scores with 'legal' justification. Hard-core history had a great series on it if you have 20 hours
yeah man i don't think Joe or Shane have that firm of a grasp on this, I mean Joe literally said "what started WWI", he knows less than your average highschooler.
Nationalism, international arms race, secret alliances. Cousin rivalry's. Germany being a newly established nation being envious of rest of europes colonies, Balkan's being a powder keg plenty of factors led to the war
I don't think anyone even wanted the war. Russia had to protect the Balkans. Germany had to appear to be on side with UK/ France but UK/ France were literally on the side of Russia. So Germany kinda got squeezed. They wanted to attack the Balkans but weren't too bothered but there was too much posturing and eventually the armies that had been amassed just had to get used. UK/ France were trying to ask Russia to chill. Germany was trying to ask UK/ France to chill. UK/ France/ Russia were trying to get Germany to chill. It just didn't need to happen. Basically, if there is ever trouble in the Balkans everyone should just step back and let it happen.
Rod Serling who was the host of The Twilight Zone was in the 11th Airborne in WWII and walked with a limp from shrapnel in his knee. Many of the episodes were based on things he saw in the war or nightmares he had afterwards
'Deathshead Revisited' is one of my favorite episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' and was inspired by Rod Serling, a Jew himself, witnessing the concentration camps himself.
Pretty good conversation to listen too. It’s great that Shane Gillis has an interest in history, makes listening to him on podcasts much more entertaining. Segura, and especially Bert Kreischer, would never be anywhere on this level.
@@rollyourownRandF Segura is funny tbf, he just puts out way too much content and has disappeared up his own arse a bit as he's become more successful. He also has bizarrely attached himself to one of the most annoying, overconfident, narcissists in the comedy world which really drags down his stock.
What I love about Otto Dix’s and the German Expressionist movement is how haunted it all is. Everything is jagged, crooked and contorted. It feels like a genuine nightmare that could have only come from men who had fought in one of the most brutal yet pointless wars in history
The war wasn't pointless for those that started it. It kept the powers that were in power. It is good to be the king. The peons dying in the trenches weren't going to have meaningful lives anyways.
The Versailles Treaty was the reason for WW2. Not a single country in this planet would have accept this in Germanys position! WW2 was the most predictable of them all!
They were basically forced to go to war, and forced to die. A great comedy series set during WW1 is "Blackadder Goes Forth", which outlines the ridiculous futility of the whole thing and how stupid humans are. Well worth a watch 🌟🌟🌟🌟
The greatest end to a television show, ever, bar none. The entirety of that last episode is a masterpiece. Anyone can watch it start to finish now and get emotional having never seen a single episode before.
Do we feel sad because they all died. Or do we feel sad that we will never know if we would have had the courage to have been them?@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334
Shane is such a great comedian. I walked in, I said wow, what a funny guy this guy is
IM A HUGE SHANE GILLIS FAN
Lol I read that in Trump
This is a totally pedantic comedy nerd move of me but... that's not how the joke works. You're supposed to repeat the thing you say originally. "Shane is a great comedian, I walked in here and said wow what a great comedian."
We all did the trump impression in our heads 😭
God damnit I read that in his voice
Shane is the man. History buff, NFL fan, beer drinker. A mans man.
Top bro
Ugh a know it all
Korea war str8 after WW2
Knowing a few things about ww1 doesn't make u a history buff. He said it was Austria in ww1? Na bro it was the Austro-Hungarian empire that was involved in ww1. Multiple new countries were born when that empire fell in 1918.
@@McYeroc That’s what I mean & you have guys in the comments saying “I learn so much about History from Shane”! Ugh
This is why people like Shane: he’s actually his own person with his own interests and passions. He’s not just another mindless drone of Joe’s.
Shane don't need Joe, Toe needs Shane
Very well said.
@@wolfcatwithagun Joe absolutely does not need Shane lol.
But Shane also does not need Joe.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 heard it bowth ways
They're better off with each other.
I love how Shane is kind of like Norm in the sense that he's actually a smart and knowledgeable guy but likes to play the dumbest guy in the room and just make people laugh
Way different though, I'm a fan of both these guys. Shane, a fan of history and is quick to correct anybody who brings up a historical fact.
Norm in all the clips I've seen never corrected anyone on any of the facts. He always cracked jokes with everybody, even when they talking about stuff more serious.
At the end of the day both guys are funny and incomparable.
@@allsmightykill Yeah I didn't say they were the same person, just that they are similar in the sense that they are smarter than they let on and like to play the fool for the sake of comedy.
For 12 min in this video he showed me he was stupid and talked about stuff he didn't know shit about. So where you get that he is smart baffels me
I remember on one of the "parks" episodes someone said Shane actually has a degree in history, I forgot what type of degree, but good enough that he could teach college-level history
Norm had much less ego though. He never felt compelled to defend himself or his points with emotion. He would destroy people with a smile in his face while he, himself never coming off annoyed or feeling disrespected. No shade on Shane. Norm was just God level genius troll comedian.
I love the history lessons we get when Shane comes on.
He made a wrong conclusion tough. The assasination was the trigger but not the reason. The real reason was disagreement over the division of Africa and its spoils between Europeans.
So they were already ready for war, so if the assasination did not happen something else would have caused it.
Joe is a little light on smarts.@@mucuk5383
@@mucuk5383 Africa was not the reason at all lol. The vast majority of African colonies were glorified money sinks. They were extremely unprofitable to maintain and colonial powers only wanted them for the prestige of having more colonies than the next guy.
@@mucuk5383yep. He also got some facts about the assassination wrong.
I enjoy it as well. I'm someone who's not incredibly well versed in history but am very interested in it. Seems like a lot of the "history bros" are upset because he doesn't get every little detail right. He's not teaching a damn lesson, he's just talking with a friend. Jeez people
Shane just moved up in my power rankings for being a fellow Goya enjoyer
Goya Enjoya was right there man
“The Dog” is a great painting. Just a little dude chillin
@@ItsFreeVRealEstate if you have an English accent it still rhymes. So. Ha?
I have that Goya print of atlas eating his child in my room. Love it
@@americannightmare2109 its not Atlas. It´s Saturn´(in Roman´s mythology) or Cronos (in greek mythology).
The assassination (in Sarajevo, Bosnia) was more an event which sparked ww1 not the cause of it. The treaties involving the two major factions in Europe to help each other were signed years before 1914. Germany had also been involved in a naval arms race with Britain for decades. And territorial disputes between France and Germany over the Alsace region, Italy with the Trentino etc. So war was inevitable, they just needed an excuse. Every country was making their own preparations for it.
This. Nobody wanted Germany to advance further because they were a terrifying military power but they had no access to oil which was the one thing that crippled them. Germany was building a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. The first British battalion deployed in WW1 was in Basrah, Iraq and the railway was also bombed.
and Big Brother was watching and waiting for the right time
thankyou
Many modern historians believe that the war was indeed not inevitable as once flaunted. For example the morocco crisis before could have very easily sparked such a world war but was resolved peacefully. As well as the Balkan wars were close to starting war when Russia considered mobilizing to take Constantinople leading up to ww1. I would agree the assassination was not a very important event at the time. No one thought it would lead to the world war but it did, and at several points the war could have been avoided. It was not like the Germans actually wanted a war, the Austrians certainly wanted a war but against Serbia, None of the citizens wanted a war, but once it happened they put full support behind their respective sides. Even the respective "leaders" the kaiser and tsar were very hesitant, Wilhelm was sent to his yacht to avoid his interference and the tsar famously went back and forth until the generals stopped listening and just went with mobilization.
No war is inevitable. One of the big problems is that all major players FELT it was inevitable, and therefor took no serious steps to mitigate the crisis in july 1914. WW1 could have been settled like any other Balkan dispute. But you're right that there were underlying causes, but there always are those. It didn't have to turn into a major war the way it did. France and Germany could have duked it out like they did 1870.
Can’t get enough of Shane talking history😊
these are history buffs to the average american, how sad is this
they don't even know basic facts, like the place of assassination ...
LOL
@@puckered603699% of people dont know history at all and dont care to learn it. the amount of people that will learn something from this podcast is a blessing in itself.
WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.
My great grandfather, William Downes fought in WW1. He was part of the Durham Light Infantry and saw action in The Somme and Ypres. He was mustard gassed but survived and came home. It was horrendous conditions and the war was the bridge to modern warfare, where tanks were created and used for the first time and there was aircraft combat.
If anyone is interested in WW1 watch Peter Jacksons, They Shall Not Grow Old. It's a fantastic glimpse into what it was like.
Omg……. Thank you pops for that service🎉
Also check out Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armaggedon. amazing listen
They rode in on horses and rode out on tanks. In just 4 years
@NicLuc "They shall not grow old" was a great documentary BUT I recently found this one from BBC and it took absolutely new point of view on the WW1. Literaly! It is about the importance of aerial photography which started there and they found some new photos which we didn't knew exists. So they started to analyze them!👍
The documentary is called:
"The First World War from Above"
LINK: ua-cam.com/video/KtmDJUI06wg/v-deo.htmlsi=TBjiTJ5_4sEy6iCF
Anyway, best wishes to all decent Americans from Prague, Czech republic! 🇨🇿🗽🇺🇲
I just recently watched that documentary. Fantastic work. It was directed by thee Peter Jackson of Lord of the Rings.
My 2nd great grandfather, Fought for the Royal army, and when they discharged him ( story is fuzzy on why) he went to Canada and joined up to go back. Man Hated Germans.
Shane gillis hands down the funniest of joes friends. His special is tremendous
Definitely. Shane is hilarious.
Because he wasn't his friend first.
Never met his uncle but yeah he sounds great
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you know he is friends with dave chappelle and bill burr, right?
The fact that Shane says, “Just some dudes having fun” about people in trench warfare wrecks me 😂 💀
The Hardcore History episodes about WWI are equal parts depressing and compelling. Definitely worth tracking down and listening to.
word.
Yes!! From the very first month of the war you think to yourself "this is the most horrific thing I've heard," and every year gets worse than the year before.
@@CosmosJack for real. I had bad dreams after I listened to it.
also read The Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. he was an officer in the German Army and later in the special Stormtrooper units. it’s an amazing read.
I’ve heard the whole series a good 5 times
Shane being a history buff is one of the coolest things about him! He legit loves to learn about history and shit that happened! 😅
History, and shit that happened.
@@frostedsquid😂 Incredible
@@frostedsquid yes history and shit that happened.
Same same but different but still same.
He has a degree in history.
People are so dumb now. That you guys are impressed by 8th grade history knowledge😂. You think it’s a history buff 😂😂😂😂😂
The museum Shane is talking about is called El Prado. It’s in Madrid.
Highly recommended. The most spectacular collection of paintings I’ve seen.
Las Meninas is without doubt one of the greatest works of art I have ever seen in person
Same. When I walked into the room where Saturn Devours his Son it was really impactful.
GREAT museum!
Might be the best.
@@MattH-wg7ouhow big is that painting?Would love to see the original
@@sakabula2357holy shit my original comment was a response to a misread of yours lol. Sorry I’m hungover.
shane’s interest in art is such an amazing part shows how multi faceted he really is
I would argue that it’s the other way around: you don’t get the insights that Shane and other comedians get without being deeply curious and/or introspective.
They amplify insights in a way that resonates with people, which means they have to package something insightful in a novel way, and with comedy specifically, they have to make it look natural or accidental (in Shane’s case).
@@Longo556 what? being introspective doesn’t mean you instantly have an interest in art. and that first part you said , how tf does anything you typed argue that it DOESNT show him as multifaceted?
@@dykemoderI was saying that the multifaceted aspect is a product of being curious and asserting that the relationship is causal. I didn’t see our views as opposing, I was suggesting that it’s deeper than just being multifaceted.
But honestly, I wouldn’t consider him multifaceted just from his cursory, elective-level art history knowledge.
@@Longo556 you sound like a pompous prick that shane would shit on
@@dykemoder He's saying that anyone with that innate curiousity will also be multi-faceted. That's just a result of being constantly curious and wanting to learn new things.
Been a hot second since I’ve tapped into JRE. Shane Gillis is much needed on this corner of the internet.
Shane would've been one of the best H.S. football coaches/history teachers of all time 😂. Seriously though
Just clowning on the students
I would love to hear Shane talk more history. He's a great comedian but you can tell he is passionate about history. I watched his short series with Louis C.K on the US presidents and it was incredibly interesting and hilarious at times. I could listen to him talk history all day. Maybe thats just me though lol
Me too. That would be sweet.
Bring back History Hyenas! 😅😂
He also does one on the crusades on his pod with Shane which was interesting
What's the series called? Would like to watch it
Do you watch MSSP? because they drop into a lot of unexpected conversations about history
Huge fan of De Goya and his paintings. Crazy to see these two talk abt them!
What are the black paintings Shane was gonna say
@@RedRedMCmusicthey’re these dark paintings that he did for himself, never sold any and were only found after he died they’re now his most famous works if you search Goya it’s what pops up on images
@@RedRedMCmusicGoya was a famous painter, he actually had colorful pieces that were even owned by the Royal Family of Spain. But then the Napoleonic Wars happened. Napoleon walked into Spain with the excuse of invading Portugal, which of course resulted in the invasion of Spain.
While in occupation the civilians in Madrid rebelled against the french troops. Of course this went horribly for the civilians. Goya witnessed the monstrosity of the acts of the french against the Spanish civilians. After this he secluded to his home and slowly went mad while losing his senses (hearing, sight) and while in seclusion he created the Dark Paintings. Depictions of witches, demons and atrocities that reflected the horrors he saw and lived.
I wrote a paper in Uni comparing the print series both Dix and Goya did seperately in regards to war and their comparisons. Pleasant surprise hearing 2 of my favourite artists being talked about.
goya is such a dude. im from the same city, and we have a big ass cathedral called "El Pilar" full of his paintings, specially the "frescos" in the roofs. i was baptised there. 5 min away theres a palace-museum with his carvings, that are kind of protest-painting. sick dude. spain is suck a place let me tell you that, i miss it so bad :_(
When I see Shane on JRE my day just gets better
Hes better on his own. Especially with Tim dillon. Warmode Especially Dan soder
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The should mention that it was countries getting rid of their people for corporate interests.
Kinda like we get rid of voters in Ukraine.
I’m watching this before Toshes episode so there’s that
@@ron.hertzbergI like how you don’t even mention his actual podcast with Matt lmao gtfoh
I watched All Quiet on the Western Front and have been reading a lot about WW1 recently and it was truly a terrifying war. The idea of going over the top to take a trench in no man's land which looks like hell is quite horrifying I mean it is not a coincidence that Tolkien got a lot of his inspiration for middle earth from fighting in the war. The Battle of Verdun is such a terrifying battle and hearing about people drowning in mud is crazy. The worst thing about the war is the idea that technology can outpace human ability and it is a reminder that in a society that is getting technologically advanced so quick we might not have a way to combat these killing machines we've created.
Have you listened to the hard-core histories on ww1?
Blueprints for Armageddon
The Great War is a good UA-cam channel about WW1
Comments like this are what makes youtube so epic.
thanks dude.
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They shall not grow old is another world war 1 thing to check out.
And yes blueprint to Armageddon by dan Carlin is amazing
I love Shane Gillis. History buff, comedian, and Birds fan.
Talking about Goya (loved it), one of the most important painters. Considered a father of modern art., painting everyday people and royalty in a realistic way (no filters)
Shane gotta be the best comic around, historically versed and hilarious the whole time. Main reason I love his history times on MSSP
Strongly disagree.. bet you’re a tHeO vOn fan, too
@@Krashout00no one asked
Your cringe 😉
he's just a precursor to being republican bud
Joe still doesn't realize only Meatheads like him give a fuck about Bud lights marketing
The Korean War is truly the forgotten war lol
and Vietnam "barely counts"?
I’m sitting here waiting for one of them to mention the Korean War myself.
@@Philz1925same
@tomd7995 500,000 deployed US troops lol
im not sure what your trying to say?@@doin_fine
I love learning history from Shane & Joe!
The museum with Goya's black paintings is incredible, but you also see his earlier works which were so happy and beautiful. My favorite was Colossus, incredible painting to see in person.
Being a history nerd myself I love listening when Shane comes on and speaks about these things.
Edit: I’m aware he doesn’t paint the whole picture when it comes to context but it’s funny to listen to him speak about history. If you know history well enough yourself you can plug in the missing pieces or do some of you need to be spoon fed everything?
Yeah man. He genuinely seems like a pretty good dude to sit down with and drink beers
Yeah he's very relateable, this is exactly how most regular guys speak about history. I still think him and Louise should team up with a based history podcaster like Carlin or Martyr Made and do a once a month podcast or even just a limited series, it would do serious numbers surely. The history guy has to be based though because some ghey liberal history cuck going "akshually" every ten minutes would ruin it.
@ws8061 look up 'The Presidents pts. 1-4'. It's Louis and Shane (but, mostly Louis holding court) discussing all the presidents. Pretty cool
@@ws8061start the clock when the homies sit down over some beers, it’s only a matter of time historical discussion/debate fires up.
He barely knows what he’s talking about. He has a baseline understanding of WW1, maybe by American standards it’s above average
These topics are why I love shane. For some reason I remember learning about goya in college and he makes it feel like it was worth it now.
Would love for Shane to do a history podcast or series!! 🤞🏻
U should listen to his Podcast MSSP with Louis CK, they go through every president of the United States in detail
@@kingofoblivion1822 have definitely seen those!
Goya is one of my favorites painters. Especially his “black period” series.
He didn’t lose his mind. He got sick maybe and lost his hearing. The dark painting were, in my opinion sort of experimental work. It had some darkness to it but some playfulness to it. He was one of the last masters and one of the first modern artist. Some of his work looks like impressionist if you see the dabs of paint. If you study deeper you’ll see that the paintings of witches were done for a woman that didn’t believe in superstition. Look at his Caprichos series. “El sueño de la razón produce monstruos” which translates to “ The sleep of reason produces monsters” There’s a lot of satire.
Great comment Oscar I fw Goya heavy
Excellent vibes only from the Goya fans, gotta love it 🫶🏻🤙🏻
Did you heard that guy saying goya was german😂
I appreciate how into history Shane is. You can tell he is genuinely interested in historica topics. He's clearly passionate about the subject and Joe honestly seems like a good friend oooohing and ahhhing at something a friend is talking about that you have no interest in lol.
"The Great War" youtube series by indie neidel is absolutely fantastic. WW1 was hell on earth and also extremely interesting and complex. As horrific as it was, gas was actually not too effective and artillery was the #1 cause of casualties by far. They were basically raining shells on each other the whole time. I couldn't imagine being in the trenches.
Love this series!
I love that Shane knows about painters and Goya of them all makes me happy makes me smile
shane is one of the greatest comedians ever, yet these kind of conversations are just as entertaining as his comedy
He’s really not. He’s the best of a bunch of bad comedians.
@@user-er8kz2jg6o no he’s good lol, both his specials were very funny
@@user-er8kz2jg6o you're just the best of a bunch of bad sperm
I really kind of hate the second one. Seems kind of fake and hammered out if you ask me. Also, more importantly, it barely got a chuckle out of me mckuskers was even worse. But i kind of knew it would be. Matts a really funny podcast host/guest not a standup comedian.
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Not funny at all to me personally but objectively speaking I can see how others would think the opposite.
Nothing wrong with that & comedians, we all have different sense of humors.
Dan Carlin's podcast on WW1 "Blueprint for Armageddon" is the best on the subject that I've ever experienced. It's immersive, thorough, and explains the political, technological, military, and human experience for a conflict that is difficult to study and understand
Dan Carlin is excellent. The way he talks about how you would see every stage of human decay from allies who had died that day to allies who had died months ago but they couldn't get out to clear the bodies really stuck with me. It also blew my mind that they would go home for a couple of weeks and then have to go back to that!
Agree - masterful his-storytelling!! 👏
Where can I find it? It’s not coming up in any of my searches…
Iink?
@@anangrymanatee8830 its no longer on youtube or spotify im pretty sure its now locked behind a paywall on his website. Though i remember it being a really good story, he embellishes a little and uses some common myths but he is a very very good story teller and researcher for the most part.
Shane brings out the best side of Joe to where I actually enjoy watching JRE again
I definitely prefer listening to history than comedy any day.
Lord of the Rings was inspired by Tokien's time in the trenches of WW1. Robert Heinlein was inspired to write Starship Troopers from his time in the American navy in WW2. He served in the Atlantic so a ton of his writing contains descriptions of men coming back to "spaceships" after getting ripped to shreds in whatever war they engaged in.
It’s finally completed: ua-cam.com/video/j2hOdE14CxY/v-deo.htmlsi=zvKhYkcEbCrZmxPW
Hitler was inspired by his experience with jews
@@dant3175 war is when the most advanced animals on this earth decide to organize and kill eachother. War used to be ceremonial till the industrial revolution, then it kept getting worse.
@@dant3175 I think that's sort of a distorted perspective...on a distorted perspective. I get what you mean, I think, and yes, war is definitely one of the most extreme experiences you can have, but to say that some combat veteran below the age of 20 knows more about life than someone in their 50s just seems wrong. War likely teaches certain things really hard and fast, but its extremeness also means that it's pretty limited when it comes to teaching many other, more commonly shared things in life. Furthermore, I'm sure what a young combat veteran thinks he knows about life after one tour is different from what an older combat veteran with multiple tours, then several years out of war to reflect, knows about life, so age is still a factor. To put it another way, while I'd love to listen to and learn from your example of an 18-year-old Ukrainian kid who's seen combat, I think I'd end up learning a lot more from some average Joe who's had multiple jobs, lived in different places, and had children, then grandchildren.
the "lord of the rings" can be the planet saturn too
Shane looks like a football coach doing an apology tour
Fucking incredible 😂
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I really want a docu-series of shane gillis going through history. That would be amazing.
I'm very very into history and fine art. Im so suprised Gillis of all comedians, not only knows but appreciates Goya ❤
I love when Shane talks history
He talked to most shit tho. He talked so much shit lol
Yooooo a surprise Gillis episode of JRE on a Tuesday morning, just what I needed to get through this delivery shift
Be safe out there
This is the shit I watch Joe Rogan for. Two comedians discussing terrors of war and art!
Shane is the first jre guest I ever saw bringing up fine art. Mad respect
Shane Gillis, Professor of History and Arts
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Professor of the Dark Arts. Or is that Theo Von 😂😂
More like history and farts! 😂
He’s more versed than the average American, but that’s not saying much.
The British empire started WWI to destroy the prosperous and soon to be powerful Germany. If you’re interested in the actual world changing events, Read- Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War
Or listen to James Corbett and his guest discuss the book on- The Corbett Report.
History is written by the victors- the Roman/British/American empire. That doesn’t make their stories true.
Shane is actually such a learned interesting person. Loves the arts and history but yet doesn’t feel the need to die his hair blue lol. Very happy to see him succeeding and wish him all the best
Is your picture of everyone interested in art and history as people who ‘feel the need to dye their hair blue’ ?
No cause I’m the same way I just feel it’s become trendy to say you’re an artist when in reality you do nothing truly creative. Just a disproportionate amount of people who have no knowledge or skills just want to look the part when in reality it’s regular guys like Shane who are soo much more interesting without trying just having genuine interest
theres a weird, annoying elitism on both sides of that spectrum. The ones that dye their hair blue to flaunt their "love of the arts" to everyone, and the ones who love the arts but instead flaunt that they dont feel the need t dye their hair blue and dont shut the fuck up about it
Shane really seems like everyone’s favorite history teacher with how much he actually knows it’s dope
he really is built in a lab to be somebody's high school football coach that teaches one school-mandated history class and is weirdly good at it
Shane is one of the best guests, I still remember his 1st appearance and I'm glad he's on more. Rogan and him are great together
I remember watching the first episode with Shane and how hard he tried to get Joe to accept him and now, he's like "shut up Joe." "Is what I'm saying for this podcast?" love it. Way to be the man Shane!😂
Just following bull burrs lead.
Started from the krab swirl now we're here
Shane gilles teaching me about WW1 and getting me interested in napoleonic art wasn’t on my 2023 bingo card, but here we are
All quiet on the western front is free on audible, it’s an amazing book
We need another Netflix set Shane I’m already fiending for more
Shane hitting Joe with the “pause” when he was describing that kick to the head around 27-28 min mark in this pod is one of the funniest moments in recent JRE
Bro said Chandler was “a ball of tense muscle just exploding on your face”. You got me to watch the podcast just to see it. Great episode too.
Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Blueprint for Armageddon episodes about WW1 are an absolute must for anyone interested in WW1. Such an absolute horror that easily gets overshadowed by WW2.
Shane has the craziest most refined taste in history and art. True buff. Goya is the absolute GOAT
calm down . he knows some basic partial history . its cool to know about stuff , but your comment couldn't be more hyperbolic and down right ridiculous .
Francisco goyas painting are amazing. I saw them at the prado museum in Madrid. Amazing how big and cool looking they are
I love Goya, never thought it would be a topic between these dudes. Shane has some depth
The young bull dropping art history facts. Sick
I love the excuses Rohan’s using to not watch “all quiet on …” lmao “I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night having anxiety over the wars.”
Shane keeps me entertained because he knows a little bit about everything but is able to just bring up entertaining stuff.
And then Joe connects it to something stupid like bud light
Came here for WWI, stayed for the Goya Black Paintings. Fucking love the story behind them.
Never expected this but 1000% here for it
I liked Shane a lot but now I have so much more respect for the guy, I really appreciate his knowledge and insight
It's cool that Haley Joel Osment grew up to be a historian.
I like to eat Goya beans 🫛
We meet again
😂😂😂
Because he looks like him, but grown up!
The comedic instincts the start singing "It aint nuthin, but a good time" when discussing trench war fare and wolves eating soldiers is why Shane Gillis is one of the best doing it right now.
Just finished reading All Quiet, need to check out the movie now. Important book to read
New to watching Shane's stuff, wasnt expecting him to have such a decent grasp of history
Best comedian in Texas back on JRE
Nah that's Hans Kim 😂
I love comedian Shane, but i could listen to historian Shane for hours and hours and enjoy it more.
Thanks for this GCSE-level history lesson, my mind is completely blown...
Shane cracks Rogan up laughing every single time ! I just watched save our parks 10! Joe just loves him
A history prof of mine once said that we can look at the period from the beginning of WWI to the end of WWII as one big war with an economic war in between the two armed conflicts.
I love learning my history from Shane. He should make a UA-cam channel or podcast where he explains major events in history while getting drunk and making jokes
You've probably seen his four part eight hours of podcasting with Lious CK where they cover every president of the United States from 1776 to present. Anyone who hasn't watched it should check it out.
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@@acetate909 I have not! That’s sounds awesome
@@kwedd5823look up their podcast on Thomas Francis Meagher. Another great history episode
just watch the various documentaries on youtube about history. that's probably where he got atleast some of his information, most of the documentaries are pretty well done.
I love Shane. He’s hilarious and possesses a love of history. I’d kill to have a pint with the guy and just talk about the Great War.
WW1 was not over anything. It was a result of imperialism which is the highest stage of capitalism. If it didn't happen over the death of Prince Ferdinand it would have been over something else. Just like the conflict in Ukraine, the US wanted it to happen for the past 30 years, they wanted to get it by hook or by crook. The NATO bases moved closer and closer to Russia, they poked the bear one too many times.
Shane is one of a kind
Love how educated Shane is on history..
Shane really surprised me here with his history and art knowledge. Good man
Yea it's like he took history in high school or something, and then read some Wiki pages about an artist, such amazing depth of knowledge....
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 he has a history degree
As an artist I absolutely love Shane's facination with Goya and Dix
Ok, this is something i wasn't expecting from Shane. The fact he knows about one of the most important painters in history, is mindblowing...
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that WW1 wasn’t really about the assassination. Each nation had their own goals and Germany had been looking to make a move anyway, the killing of the archduke was just what set everything off.
WW1 started because of an unwillingness of those in power to stop the dominoes from falling. Sure, each country had its share of warhawks and revanchists, but could've been kept in check by stronger leaders.
Pretty much. Germany was a fairly new country, all the old European dynasties fully expected a war with this 'upstart', it was brewing for a long time and everyone knew it. Serbia and Austria-Hungary were basically irrelevant backwaters at that point but they provided the excuse to settle old scores with 'legal' justification. Hard-core history had a great series on it if you have 20 hours
yeah man i don't think Joe or Shane have that firm of a grasp on this, I mean Joe literally said "what started WWI", he knows less than your average highschooler.
Nationalism, international arms race, secret alliances. Cousin rivalry's. Germany being a newly established nation being envious of rest of europes colonies, Balkan's being a powder keg plenty of factors led to the war
I don't think anyone even wanted the war. Russia had to protect the Balkans. Germany had to appear to be on side with UK/ France but UK/ France were literally on the side of Russia. So Germany kinda got squeezed. They wanted to attack the Balkans but weren't too bothered but there was too much posturing and eventually the armies that had been amassed just had to get used.
UK/ France were trying to ask Russia to chill. Germany was trying to ask UK/ France to chill. UK/ France/ Russia were trying to get Germany to chill. It just didn't need to happen.
Basically, if there is ever trouble in the Balkans everyone should just step back and let it happen.
I love Shane Gillis for touching up on art history 👍 I respect this guy even more
Goya black paintings and the story of them is so interesting
The budlight deflection was Shane keeping his bottom line… so happy for Shane btw. He more than deserves the mainstream appreciation
Rod Serling who was the host of The Twilight Zone was in the 11th Airborne in WWII and walked with a limp from shrapnel in his knee. Many of the episodes were based on things he saw in the war or nightmares he had afterwards
'Deathshead Revisited' is one of my favorite episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' and was inspired by Rod Serling, a Jew himself, witnessing the concentration camps himself.
Pretty good conversation to listen too. It’s great that Shane Gillis has an interest in history, makes listening to him on podcasts much more entertaining. Segura, and especially Bert Kreischer, would never be anywhere on this level.
Yea those guys suck d
Shane’s hilarious, segura and Bert are both not funny. Kinda crazy they even got this level…
@@rollyourownRandF Segura is funny tbf, he just puts out way too much content and has disappeared up his own arse a bit as he's become more successful. He also has bizarrely attached himself to one of the most annoying, overconfident, narcissists in the comedy world which really drags down his stock.
Now Shane a spokesperson for BudLight!
Shane knows some history. His historical bits are funny.
This will grow over time. He's gonna get better at this as his career unfolds.
What I love about Otto Dix’s and the German Expressionist movement is how haunted it all is. Everything is jagged, crooked and contorted. It feels like a genuine nightmare that could have only come from men who had fought in one of the most brutal yet pointless wars in history
He mentioned Otto dix in this clip
The war wasn't pointless for those that started it. It kept the powers that were in power. It is good to be the king. The peons dying in the trenches weren't going to have meaningful lives anyways.
Love Francisco Goya such a great artist!
The Versailles Treaty was the reason for WW2. Not a single country in this planet would have accept this in Germanys position! WW2 was the most predictable of them all!
That and the fact that Hitler took advantage of it and used it for his own personal political gain
Best thing done on ww1 , hard-core histories podcast
They took us to the Prado Museum - got to see a lot of Goyas. It made a lifelong impression and we learned a lot from the museo. It was awesome
Joe makes Shane look like a genius
Joe literally doesn't know 200 year old history...
Dan Carlin's pods on WW1 was incredible!
Shane taking Joe Rogan into the dark dark depths and watching Joes face screw up and be mindblown. Great stuff
They were basically forced to go to war, and forced to die. A great comedy series set during WW1 is "Blackadder Goes Forth", which outlines the ridiculous futility of the whole thing and how stupid humans are. Well worth a watch 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Well HURRAH with shiny brass knobs on
I would also recommend a polish movie: "Jak rozpętałem trzecią wojnę światową"
The greatest end to a television show, ever, bar none. The entirety of that last episode is a masterpiece. Anyone can watch it start to finish now and get emotional having never seen a single episode before.
a tale so sad it must only be told in a comedy series lol
Do we feel sad because they all died. Or do we feel sad that we will never know if we would have had the courage to have been them?@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334