Can you tell which is the REAL Marshall amp?
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2019
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👆 What do you think? Can a blindfolded Chappers tell the difference between a REAL Marshall amp and modelling units? Keep watching to find out! Comment below with what you think sounded best!
The contenders:
Marshall Vintage Reissue 2245 30w JTM45 Head - tinyurl.com/y6sr5js8
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Line 6 Helix Floor Amp & FX Modelling Unit - tinyurl.com/y5hnjy4k
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The guy doing post-production deserves appreciation.
That's Rory!
I‘m waiting for the moment that one of the cups really falls down or blows up 😂
Wellington 15 you called it correctly haha. Not even a minute in
One can only hope 🙏
Then Rory will edit it like nothing happened.
Jesus, who ever keeps editing these videos, keep on teleporting those cups
Should have exploded the cup at 7:00 when Chappers was trying to find it and instantly teleported it back..
I was going to comment on that... I'm kind of new to the Andertons' videos. I'm guessing they are just messing with us, right?
@@marianoholiveto yeah, their editors do little things like that all the time, like editing stuff in and out of frame to keep us on our toes, it adds alot of neat flavour
@@brymills missed opportunity of the century
"Some say that he can hear a moth fart at 200 yards...and that based on that sound, he knows what the moth had for lunch. All we know is, he's called Chappers!"
Jeremy Kolassa “you know how you can tell when a moth farts? It flies in a straight line”
- George Carlin.
As Anderton's is only 10 miles from the TG test track, is Chappers pulling double duty as The Stig?
Brilliant...ROTFL
Rob is the music world's equivalent of the Stig...without the anonymity...and the fact he never shuts up...
I died at this
Each of these sounded fantastic tbh. But when comparing like for like... that's why I bought a Victory and not a kemper. But this makes me REALLY want a Boss tube amp expander even more!!!! 🎸
Ah great to see Rob , I've missed you two guys together making vids....nice one
"I knew it was the Kemper because it had way too much low end".
*Captain shows the Kemper EQ with bass turned way up*
@10:10
I think this is a real testament to how far the Helix has come. It absolutely stands toe to toe with a Kemper these days, and even has an advantage often. And all that with such a better UI. Still fun to know that there is a tiny reason to own the real thing still though.
Even cheaper digital units are decent nowadays, they are good enough for live shows (no one in crowd will ever notice real difference) and infinitely handier and versatile. Real thing is good to have for yourself at home or in the studio where you can get the best of it.
@@ThorneyedWT the zoom g5n is so much for the money, perfect thing for a new player
@jonny j eh, take from it what you want. Spend your money how you want. I've played with tons of equipment and for myself the Helix is the current Jack of all trades. The Kemper is certainly cool. But it can be a nightmare live, since tweaking within a profile is very minimal.
@@chrisjames7489 especially when you add in IRs and all the pedals and snapshots, you can do anything you want
Really excited for the Fractal FM3!
Was going though massive Cap & Chappers withdrawal. Glad to see some blindfolds back! Cap & Chap blindfolds are my favorite!
Helix, Kemper, HeadRush, GT1000, GE300, and tube amp blind test.
Let's do this.
Yay! Rob and The Cappy are back! The guitar gods are happy
Mark Kozielec maybe he was out for his wife pregnancy
Paramarta Iganp he’s actually been at Thomann doing vids with them.
AK Copenbacon oh sorry didn’t know that. Thanks for the info
Paramarta Iganp He could’ve been giving reach arounds to goats for all I care. I’m just happy they’re back
Rory sir you are my hero with your editing that keeps me as entertained as my cat with a laser pointer
Yay another Chappers & Captian blindfold challenge!! It's about time we had another, they're always the best :-)
Rob can simply smell the Marshall, just like Gibson Les Paul it smells of PlayDough 🤣
Gibsons have a lot of problems but they smell amazing
Boggesh Zahim
My 2017 Les Paul Classic is amazing. Plus the smell.
I'd like to think that my long-gone Gibsons still smell of Golden Virginai. Mind you, I never smoked or boozed on stage, so maybe they smell more of smoke bombs.
Man, as a tube amp technician/builder, I bet you can feel the "Marshall" smell in that things. Another brands have their smell, but it's like a warm smell. Marshalls do have their particular "sweet" warm smell, and man, that's real nice.
You guys must keep your Gibson's in the case because my Gibson hasn't smelled like that in years And years because I play the shit out of it and it's not living in the case.
Glad you made it back!!
I’ve been missing rob and the captain videos thanks for the reunion
That wonderful Tele brought out the inner Pete in Rob! Niiiiiiiiiiice job fellas.
Good to see the editors having fun!!
Gotta admit- I also guessed which one was the JTM (both times), but I was clueless regarding the other two.
Either way, this was a great video and it's good to see purple back.
A big shout-out to Rory, because the mug thing was aces!
Cheers
2:56 I was waiting for the Cap to put the cup back and the shatter in a cloud, but Rory mixed it up huh?
Put the thing on Lee's head instead.
I love these blindfold challenges =D Keep em coming please!
Why not make a profile of the actual amp in the kemper?
That would be too reasonable and show the Kemper in its ideal light.
I expect the JTM 45 was a profile of an actual amp or do you mean the specific amp they were playing?
The videos with Rob and Lee are my favorites.
I would LOVE to see this with a JCM800, because many guitarists
hates on the Brit800 in the Helix. Then we could se if it only needs
tweeking to get close, or if it should have been better :)
Helix sounded amazing! Wow! Even if it wasn't the JTM 45 Model 😂
None of these sounded bad at all, the Kemper was probably my favourite blind. I'm starting to think maybe a profiler type setup is in my future purely because I can't turn up the power at home, but I'll probably just carry on with the Katana for longer than I should as I have it now.
The JTM needed more volume to bring up the bass. The real thing sound better and play better
these guys just all make me happy
NO! Don't you realize what you've done?! It's all over now! Pete has ALL THE POWER!
Lovely video. Thanks guys :)
So, the Brit Trem BRT model is a 50 watt Plexi model. It’s not a JTM45 model at all...
Wish it was done through a cab instead, with cab sim off. The question of whether or not the digital stuff can replicate a full rig direct to PA or DAW has far been settled.
They already did that, the first kemper video they did.
I’m aware, but further analysis is warranted. And how many times has the comparison with cab sim been done? A lot more across the YT spectrum, from what I can tell.
DSP doesn't sound much if any different when it's turned up, and so can't react to impedance and open-air feedback accordingly. Having a big inefficient hunk of iron wrapped in wire that is sucking hundreds of watts from the wall - to power signal loads through various energy transformations is.... kind of important in sounding a particular way :)
The confusing part is listening to recordings and trying to reverse engineer what you are listening to. Live recordings may be hit or miss in this regard, but are generally more trust-able than studio multitracks.
A somewhat altered challenge:
Real Marshall head and cab vs
Kemper with same cab vs
Helix with Line 6 Powercab
Great stuff!
Thanks, that was enjoyable. I'm off to watch more Blaze and the Monster Machines.
Helix "Brit Trem" is JTM-50.
The video editing gets me every time. It's almost worth watching just for the editor's gags! Lots of laugh out loud fun in what would otherwise be a bit dry "This is number one.... this is number two..... "
You know it's gonna be a great day when you see "Anderton's Blindfold Challenge" in your feed!!
Idk if you guys have tried this before. But what if you had pedals like the golden plexi and other Marshall drive pedals vs an actual marshall? Possibly a blindfold test? Can you tell the difference?... btw this channel is great, fun to watch and very informative!
I'm a simple man, I see a purple Tele and I click 'like'.
About time you came back, mates, good to see you again! :)
Rob is back!!
Two things I don't get: why not actually PROFILE the JTM into the Kemper instead of looking for other profiles that are "close"? And why not use a reverb pedal or add it on the desk, so that at least they'd all be the SAME reverb?
the other thing about the Kemper, in particular, is the it doesn't behave much like the real thing if you change the gain (especially is you crank the gain up). You ideally profile at the level you want and leave it there, shooting more profiles if needed.
So certainly if you take a driven KPA profile and crank the gain on it down, to clean it up, it's not going to sound as good as the actual amp cranked down. You need to shoot the profile that way.
They've profiled an amp before with a Kemper a while ago, but if I remember correctly the profiling took a really long time to complete.
@@michaelgarcia2050 Takes less than 5 minutes
Even if you get the sound right the feel(compression, sag etc.) is what really makes the difference with tube amps which seems to always be ignored. You can get the sound with a modeler but the feel of tubes is what makes a good player play great.
The test subject has returned with more rock and roll that ever
Pense que ROb no volvía , estoy muy feliz de verlos juntos ,GRacias
Great as always boys. I have a question though. Why, with all the expensive profiling and amps, do you feel the need to add a stand alone pedal into the mix? Just a thought :)
Tip: the one that turns off randomly, it’s actually the Marshall amplifier.
Or the head that you have to stand on its side. In my case, though, it was the combo you have to thump to the left of the strap. Or was it the right? Doctor! Can I have more of those druggies, please?
Ndlanding lmao
Where did the Vintera offsets video go?! Was looking forward to an Andertons review on those :(
And that was through a PA. I sold my Kemper, I couldn’t get a good tone (vs valve) from a cab and couldn’t get used to playing through monitors. Highly convenient studio/live tool tho and they feel great! But as most of my guitar time is practice/play, I definitely bought the wrong tool for the job. Helix was impressive here although I would be surprised it felt as “authentic” as a Kemper. Great vid.
Point man that’s what I’m saying too. Kemper for gigging or pros in a studio sounds different. I can’t get it to feel and sound as good as an amp thru a guitar cabinet. Best modeler. Overlooked all the time. Yamaha thr100hd. Sounds and feels great. 2 amps going at the same time. Simple and not covered with a ton of FX.
Same. I tried with the Kemper. I really did. I used tube power amp and cab, FRFR, etc
Great advice. THR100HDs are the best sounding digital amp out there, I have the head and 2x12 tho I use my marshal cab instead. The Kemper did feel more valve like but THR smoked it in cab tone. But yeah, back to valve for me but still have the Yamaha, I don’t know why they aren’t everywhere.
Point man I think the price and people were saying the Yamaha wasn’t loud enough for stage use??? Idk about that but it has so many cool features in the back. I love it. But I saved up literally a lifetime for an amp that is the one for me and I keep trying and trying with the kemper and it’s just missing something like I said it’s just thru a guitar cab no anything in between. When I put a dirt or fuzz pedal thru a cleanish profile it’s much better but I’m sure it’s great in the studio with all the extra stuff and for pros gigging. I actually sold it and bought it back because some utube demos sounded so great. Got it back. Still sounded the same to me in person. So now it’s like a challenge to get it to sound and feel right but with no pedals. I keep trying. But I see my amp out of the corner of my eye just sitting there and I always go back to it. People do love it though. It is a brilliant idea. As I said why is the Yamaha’s feel and sound ok and it’s not even a profiler? 😐 idk. Btw Yamaha bought line6. FYI same thing with the Helix. I have to use my own dirt or fuzz pedals to get a decent sound. I did not buy any IR’s for either. Helix sounds great here. It’s just meh at home. Yea I don’t think I should be buying gigging or studio stuff.
@@robertwellington2616 Yeah I got two really nice amps and I love them. I got an HX Stomp that I like a lot but nothing beats tubes.
The helix model you used was the 50 watt plexi not the JTM 45.
That's a pretty shit sounding Kemper profile TBH haha, but it is what it is. Even if it can do better, that illustrates how hard it is to find the right profiles.
Hmm its a TJ profile isnt that a Top Jimi profile? aka a paid profile also one of those that Kemper fanboys say you have to BUY if you want the best sound out of your Kemper
Most Kemper people don't really say you must.
@@JorisGriffioen actually im a kemper user and i hAve top jimi profiles and never liked it.
tonejunkie and mbritt have much better profiles.especially with this kind of tone
Bjarne Dahlberg some are freebies though including TopJimi. but I bought a pack of TopJimis and never use them. Mike Britt and TAF (the amp factory) and Bert Meulendijk’s are some good ones. And they all let you try out a bunch first. Especially, Michael.
I thought it sounded great but I'm not very picky.
Would love to see a comparison with the Headrush ✌
Not sure why you didn't adjust each to break up at the same guitar level?
Hey Andertons, can you start sharing the Helix patches you use in videos like this? Cheers!
11:33 “It did react differently” or “It did react different, Lee”?
A spectrum analyzer and a decibel meter would be a good idea to match tone and volume.
It would be cool to see you guys redo this with the right amp sim on the helix, profile the exact marshall for the helix and use the same IR or cab sim on all 3 with twonotes. Dont use proprietary reverbs either, use a pedal and put it in front of the 3-1 switcher.
Please do another blind folded "pick your rig", like the christmas special a few years ago!
6:58 Lee basically saying which one is the tube amp, it warmed up.
Hold up y’all, the Brit J-45 on the Helix is the JTM 45 model, not the Brit Trem (that’s a model of a 50 watt tremolo plexi, kind of a rare Marshall, apparently what the Appetite For Destruction was (with a spicy mod on top), innit)
That GNR amp was Tim Caswell modded rented SIR and also used by George Lynch who wanted it badly but could only rent it which he did. As for Slash he got another amp with the same mod for Appetite as the one he wanted was not in stock
Congratulations on no. 2, Rob! Nothing better than being a father... except being a grandfather!
Love it, as usual. Let’s have a blindfold MOST EXPENSIVE GIBSON lespaul vs LEAST EXPENSIVE GIBSON les Paul! Does a studio cut it!? The public needs to know! Or les Paul’s that come w pick up covers vs open
U wot? The lads are back! Nice one Rory. :)
Hi Lee, I have just bought a Fender Strat pro FSR Limited Edition, roasted maple in cherry burst from your shop, in fact it arrived today, and what I was wondering is this; are you going to be doing one of your excellent reviews of these guitars - in particular? - I only ask because I can't find one review anywhere on UA-cam, which is unusual to say the least. I know they're fairly new of course. Much obliged Mr A.
Why is Lee presenting the opening of this like its 90s CBBC?
My impression of the Kemper is that it can have really great amp sound quality, but rifling through enough profiles to find exactly what you need is kind of like opening Packs of baseball cards. You will probably eventually find those 3 Super star cards you are after you're going to have to open a lot of packs to find those cards.
I recall the monster Kemper blind test with the amps in a different room all through the same 412 cabinet in the room and it was a much more significant challenge to tell them apart... Curious what the difference is here where the tube/valve amp was more apparent to both of you?
the jtm was the one i hoped it was, great !
Are any comparison videos on normal modelling amps to original tube amps. Now that comparison would provide worthy viewing.
While profile machines give you a large variety you can choose from, they are not quite the same...thanks for the great video
Thalstan Trailwalker agree. There not the same feel or sound in person in a room with a guitar cab. Fine for pros gigging. But people selling off all their amps I don’t get.
Good to see rob back at the videoroom
Can you please upload the helix settings onto the line 6 website for us to try
Which impedance setting on the Helix? Pretty important! Internal IR's are no match for a celestion IR, it would make the test much harder ;-)
I half expected Rob to choose the Chapman guitar again ;) :P
The coffee cups are screwing with me
Fender Telecaster purple sparkle relic FTW!!!!!
Funny that they lowered the bass EQ on the actually JTM (2-3) and was boosted on the Kemper and Helix (6-7) which was even obvious in the sound over UA-cam, let alone listening blindfolded. Love the blindfold challenges and love Chappers and Andertons, but this was not quite fair..
you made some good points which I tried to explain to a pro guitarist Pete Thorn, that speaker simulation is not the same as real speakers. It was easy to spot the real amp this time, even the Captain and I did. I know many has commented about the video editing, but I have to say they are the spices of the video.
Please make video DANISH PETE AND HIS NEW PRS MID TO HIGH RANGE VALVE AMPS OR VALVE REFURBISHED AMPS
It's a shame they dont feature the axe fx in these videos. I know its because they cant sell them but would be pretty interesting.
Hey, what happened to the Fender offsets video that was uploaded earlier this week?
Running it though a digital DI ruins the comparison though, because in this case even the sound of the Marshall has been digitized and recreated.
I didn't like the first helix settings, rob tweeked it to sound better, the kemper was great all the way through. reaction of tubes with pedals does feel different, though not as obvious if your just listening. kemper handled the pedal well.
Use the JTM more oftem, it sounds great
In what is perhaps a similar vein to this video, could you guys do a series of blindfolded signature vs standard videos, where you take an artists signature gear and compare it to the standard version? So like for Slash you would run a Les Paul standard through a crybaby wah into some Marshall tube amp, and then compare it to a Slash signature Les Paul into a Slash signature wah into a Slash signature amp?
What about the Marshall through a 4x12 Celestion cab cranked in your face?...will it sound different?
They do sound different but I don't really have a preference for either. But I'd want to hear them in a band context. I say, preparing a boss GT and wedge monitor for my weekend... It's not a blackstar HT40, a crayon, a big muff and a memory boy, but it's still a decent sound.
Cool... but why didn't you use the JTM-45 that's on the back there?
These simulations have come a long way. They sound good but the tube amp still sounded substantially better.
I think to myself if could own any shop in the world and have the contents i I think mmm food and life needs or guitars , definitely Andertons
Me, I'd have the official souvenir shop at the Vatican.
But what is mic'ed? The speaker or the monitors?
PLEASE do it again with bea and some high gain amps
this is why i don't get hung up on which modeler is this and that vs the amps. i ONLY ever play with absurd amounts of boost and gain. clean sounds are easy. low and mid gain sounds are hard. high gain sounds are getting reaaaaally good.
i'd have liked to have seen this same amp profiled and done an A/B test. especially with the same cab IR
For the abc comparison I could tell which was the Marshall but I didn’t like how it sounded because they turned the gain down on it, it sounded so thin
2:55 Nice mug balancing act, Captain Lee!
"Pick a number BETWEEN one and three." There IS only one number between one and three. Lol.
Unless the choice is 1or 3 ofcourse.
missed those original videos :D
Those exploding mugs still make me laugh every time.
The sounds are great, but, are all Anderton's coffee mugs magical?
Next time make a Kemper profile of the real JTM with the boss load box, and use Helix's JTM model with the same boss cab sim. Basically all 3 "amps" need to be run through the same IR. Then you're controlling for cab, speakers, mic, and mic placement. In this test, the amp and all 4 of those variables are changing between each option, making it far easier to hear differences.
Would've liked to see some "marshall clones" in that test- things like Friedman and even more boutique Marshall based amps.
What is the guitar on the top left hanging on the wall?
Will you guys ever add the Fractal Axe Fx 3 into these videos at some point?
They don't sell them. Plus the ax3 would win every time:)