Just to make this clear: I know I made a mistake. I could have known this had I watched the trailers (which I did not), its more obvious than I make it out to be, there ARE other ways and I di a poor job wording things and made it look like I am claiming to find some crazy secret. I am still learning to make videos like this so forgive me. I focused too much on trying to make it entertaining. Something to learn from.
You missed the finger. The mighty finger! Joke aside yeah it's the only time they do that...and I think the ONLY time they do lava rushing too... Cause the first chariot's chamber has the downslope farther...and it's another lava dash....to get to the...well FINGER!
Regarding the other ways, I don't think the comments related to that were much of a slight against you. From what I've seen, people mostly just like sharing that kind of information, when the opportunity arises. And I was only mildly irked by your portrayal, since it seemed rather genuine. But I suppose your video format is very similiar to, say ZullieTheWitch, who is extremely factual in contrast, so that may clash a bit with the train of thought you were having there shortly before entering the boss room (which was mostly based on your experience). In that case, maybe you should've provided a bit more balance, more uncertainty, since that is part of the conclusion of the video and those benefit from being a bit more fact-oriented (and your format benefits that conclusion-oriented structure). If you do not provide very concrete information (i.e. you provide mostly your experience) in the video, maybe your conclusion should also be less concrete. Otherwise I don't find there to be a greater issue with the current format.
Actually, there is a way down there without the chariot: If you go down the main lava road you started on up to where the room with the severed finger is, there is a drop down to your right.
I'd argue the exact opposite: Individual surprises like this are exactly what the game needed more of. There are soo many dungeons, it can't help but feel like we're repeating ourselves
I can think of three others I liked: one where you definitely just run and dodge and not engage the enemies, and one where the key mechanism is to use traps against the enemies and even use the enemies against a particular enemy, and one (or maybe two?) that makes you question your sense of observation and give a strong déjà-vu sensation. And then this one, which was a bit painful but also awesome, and that suicidal skeleton gave me a good chuckle.
Exactly. That's a HUGE problem in elden ring imo. Alot feels repetetive and like you've done it before already. Also some bosses turning into normal enemies later is a shit design
I think that an obscure secret doesn’t need to be intuitive. “How are you supposed to know about this?” You’re not. It’s a unique dungeon feature that rewards out of the box thinking. Not every player is meant to find every secret and I think that’s cool
Honestly the fact that the chariot is missing it’s statue rider should be a clear indication that something is different about this one. That said, I didn’t get that hint the first couple times. 🤪
For me it just points out how latelly players have been discouraged from experimentation in games. Part by their own mistake and part because companies don't make games that have thinking out of the box in mind (because it usually doesn't sell well, god I hate this mindset)
Bullshit, total bullshit. The existence of hidden walls throughout the fromsoft series instantly dismantles that idea.This isn't a secret, this is a hinted at gameplay mechanic which would fit very well with the original fromsoft lineup. Jesus, how these noobsters get through the game, missing slightly hidden content like this, is just depressing
Adding to that it appeared in the launch trailer, there's another path if you go down the first lava that takes you directly to the boss (and also to the finger weapon on the other side).
No statue on top of the Charriot, so it says it's "rider free" (you become the rider) You're hanging OVER it an see what looks like a platform to jump on and the HUGE pool of lava in front of you slowing you down should give you a good guess that THERE Is somekind of solution to go through
YET ANOTHER reason is that if you follow the first main path of the dungeon, you can drop down onto a platform that's at the perfect elevation to jump onto the riderless chariot
Ashes might be a lame reward, but Floh is one of my favorite ashes. Couldn’t have defeated Mohg without him. I love the idea of the tarnished having loyal companions as his ashes, and we get three ashes in the game that really fit that. Floh, lone wolves, and Latenna fit perfectly on the shortcut menu with the torrent whistle.
Beat Mohg without him, it is the most satisfying thing to beat that boss without ashes. Trust me. I fought him with mimic tear the first time, hated him, refought him in new game+ and I absolutely love him now.
I noticed this immediately. This was the first (and I think only) Chariot that doesn't have a rider. It had a clearly different design with a giant flat platform on top. That immediately told me there was something unique about THIS version of this challenge compared with every other in the game. And then being led to the rafters above the turn-around was the last breadcrumb needed to figure out what I had to do. I did have to ride the chariot up and down a few times before I figured out how to safely get back OFF the thing, but yeah this didn't need a guide or a look-up at all. You just have to pay attention.
Figured this one out fairly quickly on my first playthrough. There are a bunch of clues. I think it's really cool. I also figured out the other chariots that you can break, but that was by accident.
Same here, except my problem was that I grew too accustomed to having to unlock the boss door through a switch. Which took at least an hour for me to realise that I can just open the door
@@KarmaDrip I did the exact same. And it happened to me again in the Fortified Manor, with the door that leads to the courtyard containing abductor virgins, just because I assumed it would be closed like in the Roundtable Hold.
I'm sure other people have said this, but they did actually show this in the launch trailer lmao. Still though, it's great when you find something out yourself without looking it up! Awesome feeling. Plus, two neat armour sets.
The deathroot can be important for Beast builds. With all of the pre Morgott deathroots you can get boulder heave which isn't too bad, and just 1 more after that from the Tibia Mariner in mountaintops and you can get a pretty sick weapon in the Beastclaw Greathammer
As someone who has gone through this dungeon, I actually found the landing on the chariot part being the most intuitive way of going about it since every single chariot (to my knowledge) before that one has had a "rider" on top of it. So as soon as I now saw a chariot without a rider, my brain went: "huh, that's strange. maybe I could get on top and ride it then" And I honestly believe that is how fromsoft visioned players going about this dungeon in the first place No hate, just pointing out that different kinds of players go about these things in very different ways. Keep up the videos!
For me figuring out I could drop down and ride the chariot was one of my most unforgettable experiences. Without that experience though, this heroes grave would have been pain.
It was so painful, my mind Is blown, I assumed you had to use the dagger and the Window of opportunity seem kind of unfair, but still I Made It this way.
Not to sound like a smartass, but the moment I stood right here 2:22 and watched the chariot, I realized I was supposed to drop on top of it and ride my way down. The fact that all chariots have this big statue, and this specific chariot lacked the statue and kinda waited there for a couple of seconds before turning back around kind of gives it away. Despite that, I understand why so many people seem to struggle to realize that, it's a very out of nowhere thing that is unique to this dungeon only.
I completed that dungeon without ever noticing the rideable chariot. Also ... I have noticed that if you start rolling the moment you enter lava, you can keep spamming it, and you move a little faster than the mud-walk it normally forces you to. Also, Also ... I have never encountered a chariot that is impossible to get around with good timing and knowing where the next safe nook is. I never even used bloodhound step, and beat the game, plus every dungeon and tomb I tried.
@Kill Bill I thought so. It is not so much a brag as an admission that even a From Soft Noob like myself can beat this game, with enough determination ... and there is more than one way to beat everything.
You’re not alone bro I rolled my way to death- I mean victory. I didn’t know you could ride the chariot and I was on first play through so lava slowed me… that sweet moment of victory after reaching the ladder was amazing 🥲
i did this without the chariot mount the first time around. i died and had to find a different and also successful, non chariot way before i killed the boss. Finding out about this after having completed it a different way blew my mind, and to me showed how fromsoft can and will put in creative one off solutions to problems. Its this philosophy that makes me like these games because there seems to always be an easier way, even if you dont think of it.
Quickstep worked fine for me. DS3 Farron swamp dagger strat prepared me for this. Biggest problem for me was to trust the lava. Took me way too long to notice that the lava did not actually kill you in seconds like in previous titles. Once I noticed that the damage is minimal and it's basically a swamp quickstep came to mind immediately. I actually found out about riding the chariot while watching some playthrough after finishing the game myself.
One of my favorite dungeons because you can complete it extremely quickly by just dropping straight onto the beams from above. One of the shortest for sure if you know where to go. I love the handful of dungeons in ER that can be completed in seconds if you know where to drop.
This was actually one of my more memorable dungeons because I tried everything to get to the bottom. I forget what I did, but I was able to make it. Only then did I discover that you can jump atop the chariot.
I did this two days ago. I’ve come to learn this game rewards attention to detail. I only was able to do it without a guide because I noticed the other two chariots had statutes as this one didn’t. It was simple for me but I’m sure a lot of people had issues here
One of my favourite things about the game is that every weapon you see your opponent using, you can get in the game somewhere with their own unique stats and feel
"How is anyone supposed to know that?" Well, you could start by noticing that this is the one chariot in the game that doesn't have a statue but instead a flat platform that you're looking down at from above...
Everyone complains about this dungeon but I didn’t have that much difficulty with it. I’m really not sure why people think you can’t go down the lava without the chariot. I’m not ng+ but I still managed to roll down to the bottom easily. Rolling isn’t even the best way to cross lava, if you backstep it would be even easier. The trick is to just chug a heal when you get hit by the chariot, making sure you time it so it doesn’t turn around and hit you again before you have a chance to heal. The only part I really thought was stupid is the little platform at 2:18, which I think you’re supposed to fall onto, I died a lot of times just missing that platform. Oh, and the cemetary shade in the random corner, that was a good troll but luckily it never got me
Interesting. My NG experience with this dungeon was weird. Eventually I got the chariot to stop going down the lava slope. I just rolled through the lava, found some areas on the edge where you can stop to heal, and made it to the end with not a lot of health left. Luckily, I killed the wolf on the first try. I will have to try this next time around 😂
Bruh! Your music samples and the timing of them was pure alloyed gold my friend! Entertaining video that actually still shows you were to go. Good stuff!
Fun fact: I was still trying to figure out how to destroy that one while my gf looked at it and went "uh, why don't you just jump onto it?" Yeah, simple as.
Update: Yeah I had no idea it was in the trailer I avoided spoilers before release and I obviously tried to exaggerate it for this video. I also didn't do the best job wording things I was not trying to make it seem like I discovered it I am sharing my experience. But yes still learning to make good videos!
i discovered everything but as i was standing above the chariot in my first playthrough i thought that this is just a dead end as i fucked up the jump, landed on the chariot but still got killed. so i thought y waste of time and went to the boss with pre nerfed bloodhound step.
Honestly the moment I saw the wooden platform on top of the chariot, I immediately figured it out. (Even though I died a couple times attempting to drop on to it at the right time)
Yes l, actually i immediately thought of that as soon i saw the chariot because i recognized the scene from one of the first trailers where you could see the character riding a chariot on lava
I remember watching your Terraria Calamity and Throwing series years ago, stoked to see youve been making a ton of content for Elden Ring. Keep up the great content Levi!
Well , the solution was shown in launch trailer , so I knew it was possible ;)) but I anyway managed to get to the boss without riding on top of chariot.
You dont need to ride the chariot to get down there. I did it with the lava slow and I was low level. You just need to have enough flasks to heal through it
Honestly I thought it was obvious because we’d seen so many chariots at this point and this one didn’t have a guy on top and it stops for a few seconds on the top before turning which no other chariots do so it’s not to crazy to work out with the facts
Idk man, I noticed it the very first time I was on those rafters. I looked down and was like "wait, that looks like a platform!!! can you ride the chariots in EVERY hero's grave?" Alas, this is the only one you can ride, but I did spot it right away.
Has Ultimate Finger Bang? Yes Has Lavae? Yes Has a Mountable stone sculpture of a Dude on a mount in a dungeon under a MOUNTain? Sure, why not. “Mountseption”. God, in all honesty I love that dungeon.
On my first time doing this grave, the chariot bugged out and kept going back and forth at the part where you had to ride it. But I had no idea you had to ride is so I’m grateful for that.
I figured out to ride the chariot all on my own. If you stand on those crossbeams above the chariot, you'll notice that every time it comes back to the crossbeams, it noticeably pauses for a few seconds like it's waiting for something, then speeds back down into the lava. You'll also notice that the chariot doesn't have a statue of a rider, and instead just has a flat platform. Now, I fully expected to just die when I hopped on, as if I'd been run over by the chariot, but I figured it was worth trying at least. Dismounting the chariot and climbing up onto the ledge without dying to the lava was a bit trickier. I still feel like there must be a way to jump directly on top of the ledge, but I couldn't seem to make it and had to wade through lava to reach the ladder every time.
These kinds of details are what make this game interesting. You went through a genuine process of hardship and discovery here, without outside help. That's awesome! I think making the chariots rideable by default (or simply broadcasting that fact openly) would cheapen the experience because it removes player agency.
The nerve!! You made a helpful video without automatically knowing that some players already discovered it themselves!! How could you... Haha some people complain over anything, don't sweat it my friend, it helped me. Seriously, thanks for the help👍👍
This was super obvious. The chariot turns more slowly than every other chariot in the game. There's no statue on top like every other chariot in the game. There's no 'normal' way across the lava. Looking up (or down from above) shows the beams just above where the chariot turns. Just from these clues alone, from simple observation and exploration you should conclude that the way across the lava is dropping on top of the open chariot using the beams above, as it slowly turns.
I actually figured out you can ride it on my first playthrough by noticing there was no driver statue. I took a minute on the beams to examine it and got the idea to land on the flat part. It working made that grave stand out a lot more than the others for me because it's such a silly means of traversal. I still wish I could just kill it though. It's not like lava is particularly dangerous and dealing with an immortal chariot made exploring other parts of the dungeon feel sluggish.
The giant jars hanging above the chariots that you're meant to shoot are way worse in my opinion. I had to reload the dungeon 7 times for the Erdtree Greatbow.
The top of this specific chariot is flat (unlike the others), the chariot itself goes back and forth into and out of the lava, and the wooden beams do suspiciously take you above its path. I'm not saying that it's _obvious,_ it's not and I can't blame you for not thinking of it, but even though I didn't see the trailer, it really didn't take me long to figure it out, since the design invites it pretty well I think, and you're given a lot of clues an attentive player will immediately pick up on. All I'm saying is, it's not impossible to figure out at all, and like some others said in the comments, secrets don't necessarily have to be obvious to figure out, especially in a series that's known for having some pretty convoluted ones. Personally I love when devs put out of the way stuff like that in their games.
I figured that out pretty quick my first time in this dungeon. I also did it in a different order. I killed the bloodhound and went up the ladder only to find those beams, instead of falling on them first.
For that final trek down the slope with the lava and the shade behind you, if you can't get the jump right and land on the chariot, you'll need Bloodhound Step or Quickstep. Spam the piss out of it. Wait until the chariot starts to go down ahead of you and follow it. Don't forget to spam. If timed right, you'll jump right through it with no problem. Take some healing potions though.
First thing I did was fall into the beams. Saw there was a flat thing on top of chariot. Thought ‘I bet you can fall onto that’. The only things I had to look up where where npcs we’re gonna show up next… and then what I should collect for ng+
i loved it when i finally figured this out because when i first found this place i got to the wooden beams and was confused by both the massive slope made entirely of lava and the fact that the chariot wasnt instantly turning around after a while looking around and finding no other way to progress, i went back and realized there was a little platform on the chariot and it all clicked
my first time in gelmir's grave i made it to the boss with quickstep from a dagger, since it was so reliable at getting me down there it took until it went viral that you could ride the chariot for me to realize.
You can just make it to the boss with bloodhound step. That's how I did it the first time. Also you can trick the chariot into turning around prematurely. There's a video of it on my channel. It takes about 1 minute to get to the boss room from the start if you make the cycle.
I think it was implied that the BHS tactic is not as reliable due to the recent nerf. Probably the only thing I agreed with in the video. I have not tried or tested this since the nerf but I see what he is driving at.
Uhh, somehow I got down the lava bit with the chariot using a bloodhound's step dagger, so it should be possible, but that was my first playthrough, so I don't know if their is another bug with bloodhound's step in the first playthrough just like no-slow-down lava in NG+.
You can also do it by just hiding into one of the shorter sides of the wall, you will probably have to tank some lava, but with quickstep is fairly easy
to move fast through the lava you can use the dagger quick dash to zoom past it before the chariot comes, dagger zoom step is usefull for all slowing ground effects
I am yet another person that found out about the chariot riding via the trailer. However your point is still valid, many people don't watch videos of games so the devs should explain somewhere that this was possible. But I guess the other argument is that "its left for the players to figure out" (aka don't blame FromSoft for not doing a good job lol).
you missed the Severd finger hammer you get in that dungeon. which also has a shortcut to the end so you don't have to ride a chariot. but cool learning that was an option
If you go down all the way down that lava road tou start on all the way down to your right is a little hideaway you can jump down and it'll take you straight to the boss. You can avoid all the in-between stuff. But there is a good talisman if you go through the whole area.
I got onto it in an odd way. On those crossbeams there were a few ropes, and I assumed that if you attacked them when the chariot was under you something would drop and break it. Naturally, I miss-times the attack and ended up drop attacking the chariot, but landing on top of it and finding out it could be ridden down.
Lol man those chariots might be the biggest trolls in Elden Ring, I never figured it out and I’m sure most didn’t either, just figured I was too slow lol
I saw a message on the beams that said "try horseback battle" and immediately knew what they meant lol. But then when I jumped down I must have been a bit misaligned and was in its hitbox and died. So I wasn't sure I could ride it after all. Then I just rolled through the lava and I was fine, didn't even need any cheese techniques. Let yourself get hit on the way down near the end, stand up and heal, get hit again when it's going up, and then get to the ladder.
Just to make this clear: I know I made a mistake. I could have known this had I watched the trailers (which I did not), its more obvious than I make it out to be, there ARE other ways and I di a poor job wording things and made it look like I am claiming to find some crazy secret.
I am still learning to make videos like this so forgive me. I focused too much on trying to make it entertaining. Something to learn from.
F the haters, good video. :D
You missed the finger.
The mighty finger!
Joke aside yeah it's the only time they do that...and I think the ONLY time they do lava rushing too...
Cause the first chariot's chamber has the downslope farther...and it's another lava dash....to get to the...well FINGER!
Regarding the other ways, I don't think the comments related to that were much of a slight against you. From what I've seen, people mostly just like sharing that kind of information, when the opportunity arises.
And I was only mildly irked by your portrayal, since it seemed rather genuine.
But I suppose your video format is very similiar to, say ZullieTheWitch, who is extremely factual in contrast, so that may clash a bit with the train of thought you were having there shortly before entering the boss room (which was mostly based on your experience).
In that case, maybe you should've provided a bit more balance, more uncertainty, since that is part of the conclusion of the video and those benefit from being a bit more fact-oriented (and your format benefits that conclusion-oriented structure).
If you do not provide very concrete information (i.e. you provide mostly your experience) in the video, maybe your conclusion should also be less concrete.
Otherwise I don't find there to be a greater issue with the current format.
If I'm not mistaken you can use the shackle of Margit in there to summon a second chariot that the first one will crash into.
Well too bad, still reporting this
Actually, there is a way down there without the chariot: If you go down the main lava road you started on up to where the room with the severed finger is, there is a drop down to your right.
I did that my first playthrough. Nerve wrecking
The chariot doesn't follow you all the way down, i didn't expect it in the begunning as there isn't any indication as to why that would be the case
Also if you take the lava path and turn left you get one of the coolest weapons in the game.
Or just use side step or bloodstep to pass through lava faster.
@@mohdsarul1530 right lol
I'd argue the exact opposite: Individual surprises like this are exactly what the game needed more of. There are soo many dungeons, it can't help but feel like we're repeating ourselves
I an inclined to agree but since that didn't happen and many dungeons are bordering on control c they could have done am better job
@@Forsparda bro that's literally what he's saying 💀
I agree but I love the dungeons they are samey but still have unique layouts and challenges so I always am happy to do them
I can think of three others I liked: one where you definitely just run and dodge and not engage the enemies, and one where the key mechanism is to use traps against the enemies and even use the enemies against a particular enemy, and one (or maybe two?) that makes you question your sense of observation and give a strong déjà-vu sensation.
And then this one, which was a bit painful but also awesome, and that suicidal skeleton gave me a good chuckle.
Exactly. That's a HUGE problem in elden ring imo. Alot feels repetetive and like you've done it before already. Also some bosses turning into normal enemies later is a shit design
I think that an obscure secret doesn’t need to be intuitive.
“How are you supposed to know about this?” You’re not. It’s a unique dungeon feature that rewards out of the box thinking. Not every player is meant to find every secret and I think that’s cool
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Honestly the fact that the chariot is missing it’s statue rider should be a clear indication that something is different about this one. That said, I didn’t get that hint the first couple times. 🤪
For me it just points out how latelly players have been discouraged from experimentation in games.
Part by their own mistake and part because companies don't make games that have thinking out of the box in mind (because it usually doesn't sell well, god I hate this mindset)
Bullshit, total bullshit. The existence of hidden walls throughout the fromsoft series instantly dismantles that idea.This isn't a secret, this is a hinted at gameplay mechanic which would fit very well with the original fromsoft lineup. Jesus, how these noobsters get through the game, missing slightly hidden content like this, is just depressing
Yep. It's like the only one without a statue on top. Definitely seemed like they wanted you to look for a way to get on top of it and sure enough...
Fr elden ring is awlays showing you the way in tiny ways
Adding to that it appeared in the launch trailer, there's another path if you go down the first lava that takes you directly to the boss (and also to the finger weapon on the other side).
trailers gives so much clues actually
That trailer was such bullshit. Gave away spoilers for 2 different endings & a cool late-game dungeon, ARHH!
THE FINGER WEAPON IS IN THAT DUNGEON???
oh, on god?
@@cielghoul2034 yes
I bloodhound stepped on my first playtrough, had absolutely no idea this was possible
@Kill Bill bloodhounds step is lame and cheesy
@@peenyyt4921 Then Miyazaki shouldn't have put it in the game.
@@Pebphiz I agree but you can't expect the devs to be completely perfect
@@peenyyt4921 This is code for "I always die to bloodhounds step"
@@imperiex7175 funnily enough I've never encountered it in my limited PvP experience, and I'm glad
No statue on top of the Charriot, so it says it's "rider free" (you become the rider)
You're hanging OVER it an see what looks like a platform to jump on
and the HUGE pool of lava in front of you slowing you down should give you a good guess that THERE Is somekind of solution to go through
Also (the main reason I figured it out) is that this chariot seemed to slow down and wait while it turned around for some reason.
@@temporaltomato3021 Yes! This was the biggest hint that clued me in
F*** thinking. I’m gonna go from here, to there, and not even a massive chariot of death’s gonna stop me.
You also don't need to ride it...
YET ANOTHER reason is that if you follow the first main path of the dungeon, you can drop down onto a platform that's at the perfect elevation to jump onto the riderless chariot
Ashes might be a lame reward, but Floh is one of my favorite ashes. Couldn’t have defeated Mohg without him. I love the idea of the tarnished having loyal companions as his ashes, and we get three ashes in the game that really fit that. Floh, lone wolves, and Latenna fit perfectly on the shortcut menu with the torrent whistle.
Beat Mohg without him, it is the most satisfying thing to beat that boss without ashes. Trust me. I fought him with mimic tear the first time, hated him, refought him in new game+ and I absolutely love him now.
Rodrika noted that spirits seem to really like you, so it is no wonder that your most loyal retainers are the ash bound spirits of the dead.
Oh then you're gonna love using floh on mohgwynn
@@apexeonu3638 that’s the Mohg I used him on. Both are called Mohg. The dynasty he wants to make is Mohgwyn.
@@Amferam oh I seeee, shit I was too much in tryhard mode to pay attention. Props to you for noticing xD
I noticed this immediately. This was the first (and I think only) Chariot that doesn't have a rider. It had a clearly different design with a giant flat platform on top. That immediately told me there was something unique about THIS version of this challenge compared with every other in the game. And then being led to the rafters above the turn-around was the last breadcrumb needed to figure out what I had to do.
I did have to ride the chariot up and down a few times before I figured out how to safely get back OFF the thing, but yeah this didn't need a guide or a look-up at all. You just have to pay attention.
Figured this one out fairly quickly on my first playthrough. There are a bunch of clues.
I think it's really cool.
I also figured out the other chariots that you can break, but that was by accident.
Same here, except my problem was that I grew too accustomed to having to unlock the boss door through a switch. Which took at least an hour for me to realise that I can just open the door
@@KarmaDrip Hah! Not gonna lie, I've done plenty of equally silly things. Making assumptions is a dangerous thing.
@@KarmaDrip I did the exact same. And it happened to me again in the Fortified Manor, with the door that leads to the courtyard containing abductor virgins, just because I assumed it would be closed like in the Roundtable Hold.
@@martinhso Yeah, that's very applicable.
Without YT, everything is an "accident"
I'm sure other people have said this, but they did actually show this in the launch trailer lmao.
Still though, it's great when you find something out yourself without looking it up! Awesome feeling. Plus, two neat armour sets.
thats how i figuired it out lmaoo
The deathroot can be important for Beast builds. With all of the pre Morgott deathroots you can get boulder heave which isn't too bad, and just 1 more after that from the Tibia Mariner in mountaintops and you can get a pretty sick weapon in the Beastclaw Greathammer
As someone who has gone through this dungeon, I actually found the landing on the chariot part being the most intuitive way of going about it since every single chariot (to my knowledge) before that one has had a "rider" on top of it. So as soon as I now saw a chariot without a rider, my brain went: "huh, that's strange. maybe I could get on top and ride it then"
And I honestly believe that is how fromsoft visioned players going about this dungeon in the first place
No hate, just pointing out that different kinds of players go about these things in very different ways. Keep up the videos!
For me figuring out I could drop down and ride the chariot was one of my most unforgettable experiences. Without that experience though, this heroes grave would have been pain.
It was so painful, my mind Is blown, I assumed you had to use the dagger and the Window of opportunity seem kind of unfair, but still I Made It this way.
Not to sound like a smartass, but the moment I stood right here 2:22 and watched the chariot, I realized I was supposed to drop on top of it and ride my way down. The fact that all chariots have this big statue, and this specific chariot lacked the statue and kinda waited there for a couple of seconds before turning back around kind of gives it away. Despite that, I understand why so many people seem to struggle to realize that, it's a very out of nowhere thing that is unique to this dungeon only.
I completed that dungeon without ever noticing the rideable chariot. Also ... I have noticed that if you start rolling the moment you enter lava, you can keep spamming it, and you move a little faster than the mud-walk it normally forces you to. Also, Also ... I have never encountered a chariot that is impossible to get around with good timing and knowing where the next safe nook is. I never even used bloodhound step, and beat the game, plus every dungeon and tomb I tried.
@Kill Bill I thought so. It is not so much a brag as an admission that even a From Soft Noob like myself can beat this game, with enough determination ... and there is more than one way to beat everything.
You’re not alone bro I rolled my way to death- I mean victory. I didn’t know you could ride the chariot and I was on first play through so lava slowed me… that sweet moment of victory after reaching the ladder was amazing 🥲
i did this without the chariot mount the first time around. i died and had to find a different and also successful, non chariot way before i killed the boss. Finding out about this after having completed it a different way blew my mind, and to me showed how fromsoft can and will put in creative one off solutions to problems. Its this philosophy that makes me like these games because there seems to always be an easier way, even if you dont think of it.
Quickstep worked fine for me. DS3 Farron swamp dagger strat prepared me for this. Biggest problem for me was to trust the lava. Took me way too long to notice that the lava did not actually kill you in seconds like in previous titles. Once I noticed that the damage is minimal and it's basically a swamp quickstep came to mind immediately. I actually found out about riding the chariot while watching some playthrough after finishing the game myself.
One of my favorite dungeons because you can complete it extremely quickly by just dropping straight onto the beams from above. One of the shortest for sure if you know where to go. I love the handful of dungeons in ER that can be completed in seconds if you know where to drop.
This was actually one of my more memorable dungeons because I tried everything to get to the bottom.
I forget what I did, but I was able to make it. Only then did I discover that you can jump atop the chariot.
I went at the boss walking in lava and dricking potions HAHAHAHA
I did this two days ago. I’ve come to learn this game rewards attention to detail. I only was able to do it without a guide because I noticed the other two chariots had statutes as this one didn’t. It was simple for me but I’m sure a lot of people had issues here
One of my favourite things about the game is that every weapon you see your opponent using, you can get in the game somewhere with their own unique stats and feel
Your sense of humor is really growing on me. The droll delivery is tops. Cheers homie! ❤️
Hey, I love the glemir knight set, it sets itself apart from the other knight armor and has decent stats
"How is anyone supposed to know that?"
Well, you could start by noticing that this is the one chariot in the game that doesn't have a statue but instead a flat platform that you're looking down at from above...
As a famous animation character would say : "what could i say except git gud !"
this was one of the most creative and fun dungeons beside of the infinite loop ones.
Everyone complains about this dungeon but I didn’t have that much difficulty with it. I’m really not sure why people think you can’t go down the lava without the chariot. I’m not ng+ but I still managed to roll down to the bottom easily. Rolling isn’t even the best way to cross lava, if you backstep it would be even easier. The trick is to just chug a heal when you get hit by the chariot, making sure you time it so it doesn’t turn around and hit you again before you have a chance to heal. The only part I really thought was stupid is the little platform at 2:18, which I think you’re supposed to fall onto, I died a lot of times just missing that platform. Oh, and the cemetary shade in the random corner, that was a good troll but luckily it never got me
Interesting. My NG experience with this dungeon was weird. Eventually I got the chariot to stop going down the lava slope. I just rolled through the lava, found some areas on the edge where you can stop to heal, and made it to the end with not a lot of health left. Luckily, I killed the wolf on the first try. I will have to try this next time around 😂
quick/bloodhound step is obviously the best and easiest solution
Bruh! Your music samples and the timing of them was pure alloyed gold my friend! Entertaining video that actually still shows you were to go. Good stuff!
The trailer had a scene of riding that same chariot, so yeah, I was expecting I could do it
Fun fact: I was still trying to figure out how to destroy that one while my gf looked at it and went "uh, why don't you just jump onto it?"
Yeah, simple as.
Update: Yeah I had no idea it was in the trailer I avoided spoilers before release and I obviously tried to exaggerate it for this video. I also didn't do the best job wording things I was not trying to make it seem like I discovered it I am sharing my experience. But yes still learning to make good videos!
i discovered everything but as i was standing above the chariot in my first playthrough i thought that this is just a dead end as i fucked up the jump, landed on the chariot but still got killed. so i thought y waste of time and went to the boss with pre nerfed bloodhound step.
Honestly the moment I saw the wooden platform on top of the chariot, I immediately figured it out. (Even though I died a couple times attempting to drop on to it at the right time)
Yes I did, but as you stated it's the only time we have to jump on a chariot. It was a nice ride though 😌
Yes l, actually i immediately thought of that as soon i saw the chariot because i recognized the scene from one of the first trailers where you could see the character riding a chariot on lava
No, my pea brain can't handle puzzles that obscure
I remember watching your Terraria Calamity and Throwing series years ago, stoked to see youve been making a ton of content for Elden Ring. Keep up the great content Levi!
Well , the solution was shown in launch trailer , so I knew it was possible ;)) but I anyway managed to get to the boss without riding on top of chariot.
You dont need to ride the chariot to get down there. I did it with the lava slow and I was low level. You just need to have enough flasks to heal through it
I had no idea this was a “secret”. Was just another cool dungeon
that piano tune when you said "down" was a pretty nice touch
Honestly I thought it was obvious because we’d seen so many chariots at this point and this one didn’t have a guy on top and it stops for a few seconds on the top before turning which no other chariots do so it’s not to crazy to work out with the facts
Idk man, I noticed it the very first time I was on those rafters. I looked down and was like "wait, that looks like a platform!!! can you ride the chariots in EVERY hero's grave?" Alas, this is the only one you can ride, but I did spot it right away.
Super bad clickbait title considering this is the intended solution of the dungeon
Intended? I had to quickstep my way down with a dagger.
I thought the point of those chariot dungeons was that each one had a unique solution!
WHAT THE FUCK WHERE IS YOUR ARMOR FROM??
0:55 WHY AM I TOXIC
I just used bhs back when it was wasn’t nerfed
When he jumped over the chariot I made an audible crash bandicoot ‘WOAH!’ Sound unintentionally
this is no secret
There's nothing and nowhere in Elden Ring that's "not worth doing."
Take this video down and do it the right way
Has Ultimate Finger Bang? Yes
Has Lavae? Yes
Has a Mountable stone sculpture of a Dude on a mount in a dungeon under a MOUNTain? Sure, why not. “Mountseption”.
God, in all honesty I love that dungeon.
On my first time doing this grave, the chariot bugged out and kept going back and forth at the part where you had to ride it. But I had no idea you had to ride is so I’m grateful for that.
I figured out to ride the chariot all on my own. If you stand on those crossbeams above the chariot, you'll notice that every time it comes back to the crossbeams, it noticeably pauses for a few seconds like it's waiting for something, then speeds back down into the lava. You'll also notice that the chariot doesn't have a statue of a rider, and instead just has a flat platform. Now, I fully expected to just die when I hopped on, as if I'd been run over by the chariot, but I figured it was worth trying at least.
Dismounting the chariot and climbing up onto the ledge without dying to the lava was a bit trickier. I still feel like there must be a way to jump directly on top of the ledge, but I couldn't seem to make it and had to wade through lava to reach the ladder every time.
1:21 did you really waste a St. Trina's arrow on the column? That's what the shackle is for!
Soon as you said Making my Way Down, I thought Michelle Branch 😂 😂
Gelmir Hero's grave is the physical embodiment of "I want to go home O I want to go home therefore I want to go home O I want to go home"
The first thought when I saw a Chariot was "I bet we can ride one of these" and I was so happy when I found out you could.
Thank you so much for adding the giant subtitles for the first 20 seconds
I love these videos! Your editing is hysterical
Bro youre hilarous XD
@2:13 *LOL* poor cat
That is probably the most random appearance of Tom Scott. Love it.
These kinds of details are what make this game interesting. You went through a genuine process of hardship and discovery here, without outside help. That's awesome!
I think making the chariots rideable by default (or simply broadcasting that fact openly) would cheapen the experience because it removes player agency.
@@nuclearsimian3281 I guess I was lucky enough to miss it.
Simply exploring brought me to that solution on my 2nd playthrough. but I can see how people would try to brute force it.
The nerve!! You made a helpful video without automatically knowing that some players already discovered it themselves!! How could you...
Haha some people complain over anything, don't sweat it my friend, it helped me. Seriously, thanks for the help👍👍
This was super obvious. The chariot turns more slowly than every other chariot in the game. There's no statue on top like every other chariot in the game. There's no 'normal' way across the lava. Looking up (or down from above) shows the beams just above where the chariot turns. Just from these clues alone, from simple observation and exploration you should conclude that the way across the lava is dropping on top of the open chariot using the beams above, as it slowly turns.
I actually figured out you can ride it on my first playthrough by noticing there was no driver statue. I took a minute on the beams to examine it and got the idea to land on the flat part. It working made that grave stand out a lot more than the others for me because it's such a silly means of traversal.
I still wish I could just kill it though. It's not like lava is particularly dangerous and dealing with an immortal chariot made exploring other parts of the dungeon feel sluggish.
Bro I literally just did this dungeon the UA-cam algorithm is scarily on point lol
Literally my first and only hero's grave :^)))))) I probably spent 4 hours grinding out all of those exact scenarios. Thrilling gameplay indeed
what armor set is that? looks amazing!
my man said "plz don't take me back to Dark Souls 2" .... LMAO 😆
"dungeon was a pain, not worth, zero out of ten" haha super :D
The giant jars hanging above the chariots that you're meant to shoot are way worse in my opinion. I had to reload the dungeon 7 times for the Erdtree Greatbow.
Bloodhound Floh is my fucking homie. If I'm not using Mimic Tear, I call up my mans Floh and he's always ready to go
*me looking at the chariot's plain top and using 2 braincells*
"What If I jump?"
This guy editing the quick scope was gold
The top of this specific chariot is flat (unlike the others), the chariot itself goes back and forth into and out of the lava, and the wooden beams do suspiciously take you above its path. I'm not saying that it's _obvious,_ it's not and I can't blame you for not thinking of it, but even though I didn't see the trailer, it really didn't take me long to figure it out, since the design invites it pretty well I think, and you're given a lot of clues an attentive player will immediately pick up on. All I'm saying is, it's not impossible to figure out at all, and like some others said in the comments, secrets don't necessarily have to be obvious to figure out, especially in a series that's known for having some pretty convoluted ones. Personally I love when devs put out of the way stuff like that in their games.
I figured that out pretty quick my first time in this dungeon. I also did it in a different order. I killed the bloodhound and went up the ladder only to find those beams, instead of falling on them first.
For that final trek down the slope with the lava and the shade behind you, if you can't get the jump right and land on the chariot, you'll need Bloodhound Step or Quickstep. Spam the piss out of it. Wait until the chariot starts to go down ahead of you and follow it. Don't forget to spam. If timed right, you'll jump right through it with no problem. Take some healing potions though.
First thing I did was fall into the beams. Saw there was a flat thing on top of chariot. Thought ‘I bet you can fall onto that’. The only things I had to look up where where npcs we’re gonna show up next… and then what I should collect for ng+
i loved it when i finally figured this out because when i first found this place i got to the wooden beams and was confused by both the massive slope made entirely of lava and the fact that the chariot wasnt instantly turning around
after a while looking around and finding no other way to progress, i went back and realized there was a little platform on the chariot and it all clicked
my first time in gelmir's grave i made it to the boss with quickstep from a dagger, since it was so reliable at getting me down there it took until it went viral that you could ride the chariot for me to realize.
You can just make it to the boss with bloodhound step. That's how I did it the first time. Also you can trick the chariot into turning around prematurely. There's a video of it on my channel. It takes about 1 minute to get to the boss room from the start if you make the cycle.
I think it was implied that the BHS tactic is not as reliable due to the recent nerf. Probably the only thing I agreed with in the video. I have not tried or tested this since the nerf but I see what he is driving at.
@@Capthowdy098 Good point I forgot about the recent nerf.
Uhh, somehow I got down the lava bit with the chariot using a bloodhound's step dagger, so it should be possible, but that was my first playthrough, so I don't know if their is another bug with bloodhound's step in the first playthrough just like no-slow-down lava in NG+.
You can also do it by just hiding into one of the shorter sides of the wall, you will probably have to tank some lava, but with quickstep is fairly easy
I figured this out on my own lol, because there were only horses, no rider on this Chariot, kinda implied you ride the horses, nice touch
to move fast through the lava you can use the dagger quick dash to zoom past it before the chariot comes, dagger zoom step is usefull for all slowing ground effects
I am yet another person that found out about the chariot riding via the trailer. However your point is still valid, many people don't watch videos of games so the devs should explain somewhere that this was possible.
But I guess the other argument is that "its left for the players to figure out" (aka don't blame FromSoft for not doing a good job lol).
you missed the Severd finger hammer you get in that dungeon. which also has a shortcut to the end so you don't have to ride a chariot. but cool learning that was an option
If you go down all the way down that lava road tou start on all the way down to your right is a little hideaway you can jump down and it'll take you straight to the boss. You can avoid all the in-between stuff. But there is a good talisman if you go through the whole area.
I got onto it in an odd way. On those crossbeams there were a few ropes, and I assumed that if you attacked them when the chariot was under you something would drop and break it. Naturally, I miss-times the attack and ended up drop attacking the chariot, but landing on top of it and finding out it could be ridden down.
My issue wasn't figuring out I could ride the chariot as much as it was know when to jump off and how to consistently jump on the beams.
That red wolf boss looks like a copy of the Flame Fox Yoho (Lost Ark-Guardian Raid boss) with that movement on this video.
Fun fact about that cemetary shade if you jump down, it is the only 1 of 1 field enemy in the entire game. The other 2 are dungeon bosses.
I just walked through that lava.. Either jumping or rolling, then using my health pots. But its amazing that you can jump on it haha
"How is anyone supposed to know that?"
My brother in Christ, literally called a chariot 😭
Lol man those chariots might be the biggest trolls in Elden Ring, I never figured it out and I’m sure most didn’t either, just figured I was too slow lol
I saw a message on the beams that said "try horseback battle" and immediately knew what they meant lol. But then when I jumped down I must have been a bit misaligned and was in its hitbox and died. So I wasn't sure I could ride it after all. Then I just rolled through the lava and I was fine, didn't even need any cheese techniques. Let yourself get hit on the way down near the end, stand up and heal, get hit again when it's going up, and then get to the ladder.
so glad I watched this. been having trouble on red wolf
Your great sword video is still among my favorite videos ever made had me dying with the super front flip to nappy time bit 😂