UK domestic lighting circuits | Loop in at ceiling rose | Loop in at switch

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  • Опубліковано 3 лис 2018
  • Lighting circuits can seem confusing to some people, in this video I explain what the loop in at the ceiling rose, loop in at the switch and loop in at the junction box look like. The loop in method is often used when wiring lighting circuits in the UK.
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  • @ultimatehandyman
    @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +160

    This video took me weeks to prepare, I hope it helps to explain how a domestic lighting circuit is wired in the UK. Please like, share and comment (if you can).
    I hope everyone has a great Sunday 😉

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      Yes, it's hard to say without seeing it- but that is what most people would do.

    • @farshadashrafe2327
      @farshadashrafe2327 5 років тому +2

      Awesome video, much appreciated thank you.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      @@farshadashrafe2327 You are welcome
      Thanks for the comment

    • @forzarider9295
      @forzarider9295 5 років тому +1

      How do I control a second light to the current existing one that is wired to a ceiling rose(junction box). Ceiling rose is now hidden behind osb boarding covering the rafters. Is there a way to use the same switch to control the 2nd light without removing the osb. Thanks

    • @steveperrin1590
      @steveperrin1590 4 роки тому +1

      Hi again. Could you "Please" try and answer my question, asked on poblic comments about a week ago. Many Thanks!

  • @adamgoscombe5021
    @adamgoscombe5021 5 років тому +14

    Absolutely brilliant. If you are not lecturing and helping bring along the next generation, you certainly should be. Clear, concise, simply explained and not sleep-inducing. Thanks!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad you like the video 👍
      Thanks for the comment

    • @someblokecalleddave1
      @someblokecalleddave1 6 місяців тому

      Because as an FE lecturer he'd be earning 50% or more less than he earns at the minute. Further education in the UK is a shambles - do you think the Conservatives pay money into an education system that only really serves working class kids? Every-time they offer tax cuts in peoples income that money has to come somewhere - FE education is one place that has basically subsidised everyone else's tax cuts.

  • @affiliatefreedom5188
    @affiliatefreedom5188 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you. After hours of trial and error, trying to find the right sequence of wiring, I checked out your video and within minutes had my kithen down lights working properly.

  • @orbepa
    @orbepa 5 років тому +46

    Thanks Ultimate Handyman - I turned 40 a couple of years ago and as mandated by law I now wear old clothes rather than new clothes and spend a lot of time in my garage. I taught myself Carpentry (via UA-cam) and learning my DIY skills - which you have helped out a lot on, but electrics have always mystified me. I extended the light circuit into space above my garage - but I just did it as one circuit (as I didn't understand the switch wires), but I may revisit this after seeing your video.
    Thanks for taking the time to do these videos - we see 10 minutes of video - but we understand there the huge amount of effort of planning, editing, compiling these videos that you undertake to help out your grateful audience. These videos really do help a lot of people like me who are just starting out in DIY. I seem to recall your video around removed cross-threaded screws being very helpful. So thank you for everything you do and when you see UA-cam are barely paying you anything for your work - there are many thousands of grateful people out there that you've helped.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      Thanks, Paul. I'm glad that the videos help ;-)

  • @V1RU5Zuk
    @V1RU5Zuk 10 місяців тому

    I had that 'aha!' moment in this video when it clicked. Had to pause and stare at the wiring to make sense but it does now! Thanks

  • @tomthanks8635
    @tomthanks8635 13 днів тому

    Watched a lot of videos that just confused. Yours was superb cheers mate.

  • @quinnio82
    @quinnio82 Місяць тому

    I cannot thank you enough. Moving out and trying to save money on the make good.
    Replacing a rail of spot lamps with the original Thorn tube light. Wasn't like-for-like terminals and I forgot the original set up.
    Couldn't have done it without this video and you have an avid follower as we prepare to buy our first home which needs plenty of diy.
    Thanks again!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  Місяць тому

      I’m glad you found the video useful
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @xxjusxstarxx
    @xxjusxstarxx 3 роки тому +22

    American here, y'all's setup looks so much cleaner and simpler

    • @PLF...
      @PLF... 2 роки тому +3

      American electrics is a bloody nightmare

  • @manwithapan9481
    @manwithapan9481 5 років тому +26

    This is a great video as the mysteries of the loop can be a pain in the arse this is very well explained and on point :)

  • @Matitzarichie
    @Matitzarichie 3 роки тому +1

    Just about to wire my new summerhouse.
    Thanks, Ultimate Handyman, your excellent video has just made my life much easier. Confirmation of what I did know, and, more importantly, 'enlightening' me on wiring switches.
    I can breathe more confidently now 😊

  • @danielgallagher429
    @danielgallagher429 5 місяців тому

    Exceptional video!!!! Wonderfully explained, I wasmt planning on doing anything too extensive, just move the switch, but though I would get some knowledge of the circuit before I do. Glad I stumbled access this video.

  • @tgroom4189
    @tgroom4189 4 роки тому

    Thanks a million Handyman. Three days trying to wire up a loft light, then ten mins watching this, bingo, sorted. Thumbs up sir.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  4 роки тому +1

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @shortyian1
    @shortyian1 5 років тому +4

    Great video 👌 ... always struggled to get my head around how lighting wiring works - makes a lot more sense now!

  • @gmmooseblaster
    @gmmooseblaster 5 років тому +3

    Domestic wiring has always baffled me. This video has helped. May need to watch it a few more times before it sinks in. It's a hell of a lot better than trying to learn it from a book. Well done on another well thought out instructional video

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      I'm glad the video has helped, Geoff.
      Thanks for the comment

  • @feistyphysicist
    @feistyphysicist Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this. 2-way switching still confuses me, I will watch your other video!

  • @bram7659
    @bram7659 3 роки тому +1

    Best explanation in the internet! I salute you Sir!

  • @misterrad5018
    @misterrad5018 3 роки тому +2

    Really cleared the clouds in my head about all this. What a great video you've made here. Thank you so much!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      You are welcome
      Thanks for the comment 👍

    • @omerkhwaja9045
      @omerkhwaja9045 3 роки тому

      Could not agree more! Best thing on the internet! Thank you good sir!

  • @nickwalton8864
    @nickwalton8864 5 років тому +6

    Well explained. Thanks for putting in the effort to post. Much appreciated.

  • @oliverking9951
    @oliverking9951 5 років тому +3

    For years I've been taking a pic inside a switch or rose so I know how to re-wire a new switch or rose. Maybe now I'll just be able to apply some knowledge and logic! Great vid

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad the video helps ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

  • @NW0106
    @NW0106 5 років тому

    Fantastic video. What a great production and presentation you gave. I now have a full understanding of what all those wires are and where they go. Thank you so much.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad the video helped ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

  • @cypeman8037
    @cypeman8037 5 років тому

    Excellent video, you’re my go to guy fir household electrics, I watched this prior to installing more lights in my garage and under my car port. Thanks.👍

  • @jem8472
    @jem8472 5 років тому +1

    That's a good video. It can be hard to find decent information about lighting circuits and what the cables do. This makes it easy to follow and understand the circuit.

  • @bonypp
    @bonypp 7 місяців тому

    Simply the best and clear and easy to understand.

  • @bkcin86
    @bkcin86 5 років тому +1

    Very useful, I may have to watch this several times however! Appreciate the effort you have put into this.

  • @thylacine88gemini85
    @thylacine88gemini85 4 роки тому

    Excellent. I have to rewire a ceiling rose with looping tomorrow after messing it up today and blowing the circuit breaker. Really easy to understand. Many thanks.

  • @seaskimmer
    @seaskimmer 5 років тому

    That diagram really helps you understand what goes well,great job!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad the diagrams have helped ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

  • @stufish73
    @stufish73 4 роки тому

    Thank you! You just made my day, I knew it was a switch fault I had but couldn't quite nail it until the last part of your video. Perfectly explained. Legend 🙏

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  4 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

    • @stufish73
      @stufish73 4 роки тому

      @@ultimatehandyman so now the LED light on the bottom of my bedroom ceiling fan has started to emit a permenant dim glow since I fitted the kitchen down lights!? Do you have a fix?

  • @pokemon151mew2
    @pokemon151mew2 2 роки тому +1

    Recently did my Domestic installer course, 18th edition and inspection and testing. Switches are awkward and all different but your detailed well presented video make it simpler to understand and I will revisit this when I need so guidance again.

  • @partonbill77
    @partonbill77 Рік тому

    You really got me out of a pickle with this great video today. Your videos always go to that extra level of detail!

  • @user-sr2he5zi9u
    @user-sr2he5zi9u 9 місяців тому

    Excellent, really clear and really helpful as I wire lights to my shed - thank you great video

  • @glenhill612
    @glenhill612 2 роки тому

    Just the help i needed..Got stuck with an old pull light switch i was replacing in the bathroom.I wanted to replace it with an outside switch and then add multiple downlights.Perfect video for me.Thank you very much.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  2 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @spendtimesavemoneydiy
    @spendtimesavemoneydiy 5 років тому +2

    What a brilliant video! I know how to do domestic wiring but for anyone who doesn't this is so comprehensive! I can appreciate how much effort has gone into the making of this video 👍🏼

  • @glynevansphoto
    @glynevansphoto 3 роки тому

    Excellent video - really clear explanation and illustration. I appreciate the effort that went into putting it together. Thank you.

  • @fro0tyl0opy87
    @fro0tyl0opy87 5 років тому

    Loved the video U.H. You made it very simple to understand. It's come at a time when coincidently I'm fitting myself a loft light. Keep up the great work :)

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      I'm glad the video helped ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

  • @ilatif98
    @ilatif98 5 років тому

    Best video I found explaining how lighting circuits work.

  • @stupossibleify
    @stupossibleify 5 років тому +13

    I finally understand this wiring concept. Thank you.

  • @shaun2193
    @shaun2193 3 роки тому

    I need to fit a light in my loft and I had a rough idea of how to do it but i was confusing myself the more I thought about it. This video has cleared it up enough to give me the confidence to do it.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      I'm glad that the video helped ;-)
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @abscomm
    @abscomm 5 років тому

    A very good thorough and simple explanation. Thank you.

  • @dnotard2190
    @dnotard2190 2 роки тому

    I always knew that switching is always on the live side but didn't know until your excellent video that there were so many ways to loop in for switching. Having moved into a house with loop connections in an existing big 1970's ceiling fitting via nylon blocks, there was clearly no way that all three blocks would fit in a standard sized rose, so have pulled all cables up into the loft and am attempting the joint box method there. Thanks for such a detailed video.

  • @Beenz75
    @Beenz75 4 роки тому

    Thank you! This is a brilliantly presented video which is easy to follow and understand

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  4 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @pyotrleflegin7255
    @pyotrleflegin7255 5 років тому

    You are a pretty decent leccie, UH, as well as being multi-skilled in lots of other disciplines too. Another great video - thank you.

  • @NAFO_Badger_Brigade
    @NAFO_Badger_Brigade Рік тому

    Nice clear some explanation! Limited the fancy graphics and great use of actual photos

  • @BigStew007
    @BigStew007 5 років тому

    Another superb tutorial. It was worth the time you spent to make it. Thanks.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      I'm glad you found the video useful ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

  • @TheJaydotdizzle
    @TheJaydotdizzle 5 років тому

    Really clearly and concisely explained! Great job!

  • @r.d.1991
    @r.d.1991 5 років тому +5

    Wiring is a mystery to me. Even after watching this! 😁 I think I need to watch it a few times. Cheers!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      You'll understand it eventually ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

    • @Shagnasty1956
      @Shagnasty1956 3 роки тому +2

      I gave up trying to figure it out Long ago. If confused by electricians etc, I put it down to voodoo.

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 Рік тому

    Great video. Covered all possibilities! I'm looking to install a bathroom fan with an isolator switch and the diagrams make sense, easy enough to follow, but I haven't had a chance yet to figure out where to wire it from. Now I'll be able to identify which of the three it is and proceed from there. Very helpful

  • @addictedtocardmagic
    @addictedtocardmagic 5 років тому

    Been looking for a video in plain English for a while. Got it now thanks

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad the video helps ;-)
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @norfolkhall
    @norfolkhall 5 років тому

    Excellent video, explaining the difference between loop at rose or loop at switch. We had an extension built a couple of years ago. the new part is wired loop at switch, the original part is still loop at rose. now I know why there is connectors behind the light switches.

  • @mit123456789123
    @mit123456789123 3 роки тому

    Brilliant video. After 5 other videos I finally found a video that answered my questions! Thank you

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @bradleyhardingham6747
    @bradleyhardingham6747 3 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic clear and concise video, it has certainly cleared the cobwebs! Easy subscription from me!

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @skk1234567
    @skk1234567 2 роки тому

    That was great, so helpful and easy to follow. I wish I had found your channel sooner. Congratulations on a new subscriber 👍

  • @Cornbeef101
    @Cornbeef101 11 місяців тому

    This is Crystal clear. Bravo 👏 thank you!

  • @jeffbruce
    @jeffbruce 5 років тому

    As someone living in the US and very familiar with our wiring it’s interesting to see how it is done and other places. Fantastic video. Thanks.

  • @skatepark02
    @skatepark02 Рік тому

    After being electrocuted (I never knew about permanent live, I thought having the switch off would be enough) I found your video and I now comfortably understand how the lighting circuit works. This video has been amazing!
    Also I now use a voltage detector pen.

  • @Maggie-nv7ds
    @Maggie-nv7ds 3 роки тому

    Thank You .. Very useful 👌 Your was the only one yet that explained it clearly and easily understood..

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @Petertronic
    @Petertronic 5 років тому +1

    Very comprehensive, excellent video.

  • @boeingpete
    @boeingpete 5 років тому

    Good helpful and educational video by someone who knows what he's doing.

  • @bezdobry
    @bezdobry 3 роки тому

    Great video, shows you exactly how to wire the lights. Thumbs up :)

  • @Leyton247
    @Leyton247 3 роки тому

    Best explanation on UA-cam, thank you 👍🏼

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!
      It took me quite a while to put this video together, so I'm always happy to hear that it is useful.
      Thanks for the comment

  • @simondiamond001
    @simondiamond001 3 роки тому

    Great video thanks. The first I have seen that has explained it clearly and easily.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  3 роки тому

      I'm glad the video helped
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @pamy5965
    @pamy5965 5 років тому

    Extremely informative. Great technical vlog.

  • @SpiritSwarm
    @SpiritSwarm Рік тому

    This is the best video on UA-cam explaining lighting by far. Are you an electrician? Could you do one about fault finding on lighting.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  Рік тому

      I’m not an electrician that does domestic installations, but I do have electrical qualifications for working on site (three phase etc.). I’m afraid I would never get the opportunity to do a video on lighting fault finding, as it’s something I rarely ever do (unless a mate removes a two gang light switch and can’t get his lights working again) 👍

  • @shelbyv2658
    @shelbyv2658 8 місяців тому

    This is the best video ever in its category.

  • @lazylad9064
    @lazylad9064 5 років тому

    Excellently explained thanks for posting. 👍👍👍

  • @jjamorris1
    @jjamorris1 4 роки тому

    wonderful work there pard.. before i retired i was a mechanical and commercial mechanical and electrical engineer 400v split down to 240 and then on to ring sockets etc. now even with my old qualifications the local council refuse that i can even change a wall socket what is the world coming to part p . all the years of apprenticeship and working around England doent count ... great up load nice one

  • @everythinghomerepair1747
    @everythinghomerepair1747 5 років тому

    Great job explaining this in detail.

  • @s.wilson5675
    @s.wilson5675 10 місяців тому

    Very well explained. Thank you.

  • @simonmogos44
    @simonmogos44 5 років тому

    Thanks so much that was so helpful I really love your video it makes me feel good

  • @43bikeguy
    @43bikeguy 5 років тому +4

    More electrics please. So interesting and useful. Some basic stuff could be used by schools for plugs etc...

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому +1

      I don't do much in the way of electrics at home, as this house is pretty modern, but I'll try to cover more in future.
      Thanks for the comment

  • @grahamcole1236
    @grahamcole1236 5 років тому

    Cheers very informative and useful for up and coming projects

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'm glad the video helped ;-)
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @HyperBiker
    @HyperBiker 3 роки тому +1

    I have a loop in at ceiling rose set up in my bathroom with only one light fixture. I want to install multiple (x5) downlights to the bathroom. Can I just connect the wire that will supply the new lights to the current connections of the existing light fixture?

  • @1954BJohn
    @1954BJohn 5 років тому

    Well explained Chez! Thanks!!

  • @PurpleWhirple
    @PurpleWhirple 4 роки тому

    Very nice, clear explanation. Thank you.

  • @ratchriat1716
    @ratchriat1716 5 років тому

    found this video very informative and thanks a gain for your time and effort and i priciat all your video.

  • @mikes3051
    @mikes3051 2 роки тому

    Great video mate very well explained!

  • @markrowland5393
    @markrowland5393 5 років тому +4

    Excellent video, thanks. Perhaps you should mention that if you use the junction box method then the junction box should be accessible e.g. not located under floorboards. Any connections that are not accessible should be maintenance free e.g. Wago type lever. The screws in the junction box can, theoretically, become loose over time and are therefore not maintenance free.

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      Thanks, Mark- yes I should have mentioned that in the video!

    • @paulgraves4013
      @paulgraves4013 5 років тому

      Well pointed out Mark, I guess you are an electrician because not many people would have known that.

  • @ianmackenzie686
    @ianmackenzie686 5 років тому

    If I lived in the UK I'd stick to plumbing only. I'd get zapped once to many times for want of remembering all those unfamiliar colours. Lol.
    Great video demo, thanks!

  • @y2keef
    @y2keef 5 років тому

    I'm not going to lie, I got 4 minutes in and was totally confused .... 6:30 in and I 100% understand, thank you for a well made video! :)

  • @Matticus87
    @Matticus87 2 роки тому

    The cables are really awkward and small to get into the fittings! It’s definitely an art…. Having a mare with mine and struggling to get the old light fitting back on as the downstairs lights won’t come
    On. My MCB is brand new and I’ll be getting my mate to come and sort!
    But this video makes it much easier to understand. Thanks

  • @johnoirie
    @johnoirie 4 роки тому

    Another great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @engr.zakirmalik5928
    @engr.zakirmalik5928 2 роки тому

    appreciated ! very useful for beginners, keep it up👍

  • @MohammedAli-vo8hq
    @MohammedAli-vo8hq 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for this, made very simple

  • @stephenkay3941
    @stephenkay3941 10 місяців тому

    really helpful and informative - thanks

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  10 місяців тому

      I’m glad you found the video useful
      Thanks for the comment 👍

  • @kentonian
    @kentonian 5 років тому

    Funny you uploaded this as I fitted a new light switch earlier and managed to give myself a belt due to switching off the wrong mcb doh. Might have been a good idea to explain why upgrading to a cu with rcd protection is very wise. I'm glad I had rcd protection today ;).

    • @ultimatehandyman
      @ultimatehandyman  5 років тому

      I'll cover CU's soon ;-)
      Thanks for the comment

    • @codenamenel
      @codenamenel 5 років тому

      @@ultimatehandyman Might be easier to cover the proper safe isolation procedure ;)

  • @MrJohnnynapalm7
    @MrJohnnynapalm7 5 років тому

    Really useful - thanks for sharing 👍

  • @franklettering
    @franklettering 5 років тому

    As per. Clear and concise.
    You're tip top. !!!

  • @jameznm
    @jameznm 5 років тому

    Very nicely explained :) Good stuff

  • @cglees
    @cglees Рік тому

    Absolutely brilliant video thank you

  • @_______DR_______
    @_______DR_______ 5 років тому

    Next time you're connecting a loop-in in a junction box, try a Hager J501, they're brilliant for this application 👍
    Great video though, I'm an electrician but I still can't help but watch your electrical tutorials 😂 Keep up the good work

  • @vespamorelli7090
    @vespamorelli7090 5 років тому

    Superb video. Thanks so much 👍🏼

  • @charliehitchen5263
    @charliehitchen5263 3 роки тому

    Very clear as usual. Thanks.

  • @athloneduke
    @athloneduke 5 років тому +10

    Good timing, about to replace a few lights and it always confuses me when I see more than 3 wires

  • @Hells_Gift_MB
    @Hells_Gift_MB 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the upload mate

  • @grahamcharlton861
    @grahamcharlton861 Рік тому

    Brilliant clear video.
    If i want to take a permanent live to a wardrobe light how would i wire up

  • @steveperrin1590
    @steveperrin1590 4 роки тому

    Hi, Could I ask you how best to extend the wiring from a Ceiling Rose, (serving short flex & single bulb) know behind my new Suspended Ceiling, to make connection for my 2x LED Flat Panels close by.They come with 2x 50V Drivers. 2x wire (brown & blue) one end, & push fit connector to LED at the other. Thanks

  • @edwardhughes352
    @edwardhughes352 5 років тому +1

    Nice Explanation!

  • @gardengnome2409
    @gardengnome2409 2 роки тому

    Superb explanation. 👍

  • @ek6868
    @ek6868 5 років тому

    Excellent upload tanx 👍👍👍

  • @jinksy31337
    @jinksy31337 4 роки тому

    Very informational, thank you

  • @jjj1590
    @jjj1590 5 років тому

    Great vid Thanks for uploading