It is good to have such insight and depth but the evil of the left has been obvious to everyone with a moral compass for years. This gender ideology is just one front of the left's attack of western civilisation.
The important answer is the truthful answer though. And the truthful answer is yes, they are definitely women, and the proof is right in your face with the name transWOMEN. If they were not women, the name would not have the word Women in it. The thing the right-wing folks are trying to say is they are not ciswomen. When they are not even claiming to be ciswomen. Transwomen are not claiming to be ciswomen. They claim to be transwomen, but they are still women. A transwoman is a woman who was born with a penis rather than the normal Viginia. Why the hell is that so dam hard to understand?
@ankavoskuilen1725 than first don't call them even trans woman! stop that bullshit, they'll never know and never be. let them choose an other name. só much fantasy but finding an own name................ 🫣
@@annikabjornson998 Transgender identifying men. 'Trans' is too vague. Which is why they use it. Trans what? Transvestite? Is a cross dresser. Even they know changing their clothes can't be misconstrued as a 'civil rights movement.' It's just clothes. Transsexual? Has had cosmetic surgery in weird places. And that's all it is. Those parts they are having altered in appearance are part of an entire reproductive system, which does not change. It's just for looks. Transgender? A fairly new concept. And the one behind all the legislation. Make them define it. They can't in any kind of cohesive terms.
Comparing and contrasting Dr Kenny's approach to that of, say, Judith Butler is your clarity of exposition and reference to verifiable sources. Judith Butler's papers and books are confused and unintelligible with only unverifiable anecdotes quoted. I think Dr Kenny's varied professional background has enhanced her account of this psychological and social phenomenon, greatly. Thanks for posting this.
Outstanding, heartfelt thanks to all of you for your clarity and courage. It's astounding that Australia and NZ are charging ahead despite the progress people in the UK and some European and Scandinavian countries are making. The concept of autogynephilia needs to be publicised far more....everyone seems to tiptoe around it.
Genspect is just another trojan horse . We need doctors to step up and make medical standards of care for these dual ( multiple) diagnosis conditions instead of corporations with vested interests like WPATH & Genspect setting the standards of care. It baffles me TBH
I greatly enjoyed Dr. Kenny's often chilling hypothesis of how transgender ideology activists have been able to get public, private and educational institutions to basically eat out of their hands. And have convinced civil authorities and politician to come down hard on so called :haters" who dare to utter truths like "there are only two sexes' and "a man can not become a woman just by saying so."Do that theses days and you risk being figuratively burned at the stake.
Could you explain what this hypothesis is? I'm asking in earnest, because I honestly just did not get what her main point(s) were except for "this is a religion/cult". Which in my mind doesn't answer the question of HOW.
@@Asptuber Maybe research more on Social Contagion, because that is the hypothesis. Social Contagion is what creates a religion or a cult. So, the labeling it as a religion or a cult, is the conceptual outcome of the hypothesis of Social Contagion (cause). Sorry, I hope that made sense.
@@Lenergyiskey358 Yes, I got _that_. But it is only the first step, it doesn't explain how this worked its way inside institutions. As i wrote in another comment "I'm especially frustrated by the conflation of young transitioners with adults with some measure of power in institutions."
@@Asptuber I was reflecting on the same thing - the "how". I'll give it a try what I've seen in this talk specifically (not in an specific order nad please excuse my English, not a native speaker): Appropriation ("night before pride"), symbols (flags) and language (neo-pronouns) are (some of the) the tools; In-group/Out-group an important mechanism and children(s spaces) the target to implement the ideology into the wider population.
@@lolfzbf Obviously they want to have a division between themselves and actual biological women. So, they engage in some George Orwell 1984 NEWSPEAK tactics to further confuse the matter.
Thank you for this very learned presentation, dedicated to truth. Very grateful for Dr Dianna Kenny's clarity of thought on the matter of 'institutional capture'in this time of what is a rampaging psy-pandemic of transgender ideology, ( and applicable to other false ideologies that are taking over people's minds).
This presentation on institutional capture is so timely! It blew me away! Thank you Dianna for your clear analyses and comparisons. I hope the powers that are in charge are going to see the light instead of reprimanding you. 🙏
Gustav Le Bon’s ‘The Crowd- A study of the popular mind’ Is one of the most important books I’ve ever read. And the parallels between everything we see now and Nazism has and continues to strike me like lightening from the sky. If you do understand the progressive slip into the most extreme dictates of Nazism - it’s impossible not to recognise the subtle signs of social conformity, punishment and cowardice that has overtaken the social consciousness in the evolution of the trans movement. One day I said to my friend I don’t understand what’s happened - it’s like everyone is speaking a whole new language, it was so unsettling. It wasn’t the first thing I noticed but it was the most reality shifting.
@@sylviabarnes480 oh dear lord! Sorry, I meant The Crowd - A study of the popular mind. I always think of the title/phrase ‘the madness of crowds’ when I think of that book I’ll edit it now.
So, the truth noadays is called woke BS, HUH? I'm getting on up into my 70s so I need a little help keeping up with this new language. Transgender has been around much longer than me, and I have been around for over 75 years so far. I can't see what is so hard to understand. I mean nature makes mistakes all the time. So, why is it so hard to believe a woman can be born with a penis rather than a Viginia?
This is why we homeschool our children. WE have educated them and NOT the state.🖕 I am 53 years old and have been anti-establishment my entire life. What has protected me was an inner curiosity and a deep seated desire to avoid following the crowd, trends, fads, gimmicks etc. My 72 year old mother is the same and we share information about the decline of civilization so we stay updated. We are both bible believing Christians and know what we are experiencing is a spiritual battle of good versus evil. Satan no longer cares to hide his deceit and openly operates in full view, knowing he has captured the minds of billions of human beings.
Working Girl is a great film from the 80's and one of the quotes in it is ... “Sometimes I sing and dance around the house in my underwear. Doesn’t make me Madonna. Never will.” ... this is what pops in my mind whenever I see anything debating the current craziness. Nobody is saying you can't enjoy dancing in your underwear, but the point when you start believing you are actually Madonna and no longer yourself is when it has gone too far.
History is going to look back on this period with absolute amazement smh If they _were_ women, you wouldn't have to be asking. This convo exists because they AREN'T.
But people are cancelling history because they’re “uncomfortable” with it. This is the way lessons are forgotten, and atrocities revisited! Don’t pull down that statue, use it to teach, so we cannot forget the past.
I loved the talk, and wish more thinkers were addressing the logic as in the beginning of this talk, specifically (and this was where I had hoped this talk was going) with respect to representation, simulation, and Kripke’s conceptualisation of the necessary aposteriori. Magritte’s pipe touches on the first two and hints towards the third, but it’s overall an underrepresented perspective. Maybe I’ll have to make my own talk to get at the crux of the inconsistencies in terms of linguistics, logic, and conversation.
The beginning of this with the pipe reminds me of the Is It Cake? show where you guess if an object is what it looks like or if it’s actually cake! Makes sense to make this comparison 🧐 it may look like a cup of coffee, but it isn’t a cup of coffee. OR if you wanna say there are veggies burgers and beef burgers. No one would know that a veggie burger was a veggie burger until they bit into it and notice it’s the patty that is veggie. It has all the same dressing and such as the beef, but they’re entirely different compositions on the inside and have different tastes.
Stella O'Malley recommended parents review school curriculum, and websites of organisations presenting at schools for reference to WPATH standards of care; then to contact the school and ask if they are aware that WPATH has been discredited as an organisation. Both the WPATH files and the Cass Review are easy to provide to schools via links. So is refusing permission for children to attend presentations by said organisations.
NSW Government is about to pass legislation to secure Gender Affirmative Care under an Equality Bill, while establishing a trans youth clinic which will use Auspath medical practices....GAC!!!!!
It’s strikes me also that Christianity seems to encompass all the values we have lost and the warnings against the defiling of those values. As holding the child as sacred who in infancy is as vulnerable and wild as an animal. The importance of the motherly nurture and of her ability to allow her child the freedom to risk being broken by the world - to avoid over coddling your child, to train the wild animalistic nature out of them and towards being a dignified and respectful member of the family and of the wider society. So that he can be prepared to act alone in the world with true understated, unseen but felt virtue. The virtues of loving your neighbour as if he is yourself - is to be able to make hard decisions such as not giving everyone what they want because in the long run it’s bad for them over taking the easy option for yourself and giving in. Even the aspect of king Herald wanting every male Jew newborn killed. It seems Christianity speaks to every psychological motivation and offers the layout to understanding those motivations and the real life consequences in symbolic metaphor to illustrate universal truths. As a collective we are all naturally designed to orient toward an organising principal. Where secularism has flattened the landscape to make room for liberalism - the majority still unconsciously gravitate toward a higher structure. Trans activists have stepped in to fill that role.
@@joedge6142is that really surprising though? The church of England was founded so a man could get a divorce. It has never existed to truly represent the church that Jesus described
@@Gingerblaze I’m not saying that liberalism is responsible for queer theory. I’m saying the absence of religion or a higher moral principle beyond the human individual leads to differing moral values and priorities. Which in essence is what liberalism is. Liberalism is beautiful in theory but not everyone can be trusted to act with morally calibrated motivation. We DO have to subjugate ourselves to something fundamentally higher than ourselves. For some truth itself is enough and that should be enough - to me God is equal to truth rather than perfection. If people would take the bible and god less literally, it would translate to “the essence of truth” in every domain of life for human beings. And in essence, liberalism tries to achieve that but without a higher principle that incorporates self reflection as well as direction In those who may have more selfish desires but would be god fearing enough to monitor themselves.
Which religion DOESN'T hold children as sacred, or preach treating your neighbour as yourself? (Not even sure how that last one is directly relevant- A believer in "gender" nonsense would say that caving in to a child's desire to """"transition"""" IS "treating your neighbour, as yourself"; ie Allowing the kid's desires, in the same way we ALL want our desires to be allowed... that's why they're called "desires"... But the reason we DON'T allow children legal consent, is because we acknowledge that children need special protection, even from their own desires. Children are the one group who we DON'T "treat, as we wish to be treated". Children are, for very good reason, given special protection, that would be "authoritarian lack of autonomy", if applied to an adult). I kind of agree, that "gender" insanity has stepped into a vacuum of foundational moral bedrock, that USED to be inhabited by religion, in past decades. But I don't see how the issue is absence of Christianity, specifically (except that it was the norm in the West, historically). Muslims make this exact same argument (often extending it, to CRITICIZE Christianity); "Look what's happening in these Western/Christian nations- People don't know if they're men or women, and they're sterilizing their own kids!!! THIS is what happens, without the guidance of Islam!!! THIS is the result of the weakness and permissiveness of Christianity!!" There are Christians who support all this "gender" insanity. And while it's true that many trans-activists atheists, many of its biggest OPPONENTS are atheists, too- Richard Dawkins, Kellie Jane Keen, Cathleen Stock, J. K Rowling, etc. If there's any one issue where people from ALL belief systems, Christian, atheist, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, whatever, should all agree on, it's this one- Protecting children from needless mutilation/sterilization. And acknowledging the simple, immutable physiological reality of the two sexes. If there's ANY issue where we shouldn't get distracted by "my ideology is better than yours", and should stand in solidarity, REGARDLESS of religion/lack of religion, it's THIS issue...
Why can't we be as honest as the Samoans? They call such men "fa'afafine", which literally means "in the manner of a woman"? That's what they're doing. These men are living in the manner of women. But they are not, and can't be, women. That's how language should work, conforming to natural distinctions where they exist.
@ChollieD they're NOT mannering in a way women do, not at all! they think so, act like homosexual clowns and make very bad and strong insulting caricatures of women. they can't know how women are because they've never been one. we always learned women have a different brain from men!
agree completely. What I hate about this cult is the horrific operations and drugs that people are encouraged to take. Dress as you wish , live as you wish but leave our kids alone.
just watched the clip where the transwoman is asked 'what is a woman?' and basically defines a woman as a human being. Years ago - back in the '80's - I watched a show where the guests were trans sexual women (no trans men) and the host asked them 'Why do you think you are a woman?'. Even then I was struck by how banal and confused their answers were: by their definition I was not a woman because I didn't want to wear high heels, loads of make up, and paint my nails. That's literally how ridiculously 'surface' their answers were.
I really, truly, sincerely *want* to try to understand this. If sex (or gender) is not binary… and some people (if they choose) can call themselves “non-binary” in tribute to such… then wouldn’t that make a “2 spirit” person *extra binary* or *double-binary* or something like that? I mean, what are the two spirits in question, if not some kind of binary? I’m looking for internal logical consistency here… Oh. I’m American. Clearly I’d have to be Canadian to truly understand whatever “two spirit” is even supposed to mean in the first place. Ok, I’m done being facetious.
Once upon a time we were identified, ruled and contained by class - poor, middle, rich, elite. We have moved away from class identity to gender, race and sexuality identity isn't a bourgeoisie conspiracy theory. Rather, its a strategy implemented to save the leftist movement from irrelevancy. Morality determined by individuals is the new political game and can’t be achieved unless it's done with tyranny and authoritarian force and that force has now claimed to be the official arbiter of what's right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. This is what has allowed for the tyranny of cancel culture. The deplatforming of people who have views out of alignment of the official narrative, labelling these people bigoted, racist misogynist, etc, clamping down on free speech and debate, is the only way the left can institute the “unity” that only an objective morality can provide. This is the only way to achieve class consciousness and will eventually lead to the downfall of this country and every country that is buying into this garbage.
If you define yourself as "not-x," then "x" must exist. In order for "non-binary" to exist, the binary must exist. If the binary exists, then there are only 2 options, as that is the definition of "binary." Hence, there is no 3rd ("non-binary") option. Just one of many inherent contradictions in this gender nonsense.
Two spirit is a term coined in the 90s and wasn’t used by indigenous cultures. And most indigenous cultures have very clear roles for the two sexes. Which is why many people who felt that they didn’t fit into one of those very strict roles ended up dressing as the other, taking on the roles of the other. Because those cultures forced them into it due to a complete lack of embracing certain behaviors. But now activists are trying to claim this as some kind of sign of how culturally superior those cultures are, and how natural it all is. There have been many documentaries about how the Ladyboys of Thailand, and the Sistagals of New Zealand weren’t accepted as gay men in very strict binary cultures, so they were forced to pretend to be women. Same in Iraq where gay men are given the choice of transition, or else.
just saw in Thailand they aren't called woman or transwoman. it's a separate (third) group and they still are called (lady)boys indeed! I haven't seen video's yet about woman who think they are men. I can't imagine they are called gentlemangirls.............. 🤷♀️
@@ZzyzzyxWhy would a person believe a falsehood? Because they see life differently. Because they think differently. Because of their upbringing. Because they have a hard time giving up a lifetime belief. The reasons are ad infinitum. _Why_ a person believes what they believe isn't going to change the fact.
@@thissunchild The question at hand is not why an individual would believe a falsehood - but why *people* believe them, en masse - how whole societies are convinced to proclaim that 2 + 2 = 5.
Genspect gives parents permission to say no to their kids and the ability to say I don’t approve of your choices and won’t affirm or even pay for any treatment. If your child threatens suicide then deal with it IF it happens but don’t be held hostage by your child. ( and yes I’m a mother).Children need parents to be like a rock, strong and unmovable. It gives them something solid to lean against when the storm confronts them. At least parents have somewhere to learn about this phenomenon, as previous parents were being kept in the dark and tricked into going along with this ridiculous ideology.
We spent 7+ years having to deal with the other side comparing everyone to the WWII national socialists of Germany. And now this side is doing it. Even if the comparisons are actually valid, it really makes people lose confidence in that persons ability to argue their side without being extreme and reactionary.
@@7eyesopenwide168 Yes, but it makes the other side look less crazy when this side is becoming more like them. As soon as I hear people throwing around those comparisons I bristle and I find myself questioning the credibility of the person doing so. I’m just trying to let Genspect know that they might consider this for future videos. Rational and even minded people are very turned off by that kind of hyperbole. Editing is a wonderful thing to get rid of that kinds of ridiculous content from an otherwise very informative and interesting lecture.
The activists called individuals Nazis as an insult and to silence them. This lady is comparing the very successful methods of indoctrination of people and institutions, it’s learning from history and completely different. We are getting similar punishments and silencing over Islamism. It seems some learned from history in order to repeat it.
Dr, Dianna Kenny explains institutional capture! This is NOT about 'men are not women', it goes much deeper than that. It's about HOW governments globally are being sucked into a dangerous gender ideology, and big pharma making billions of $$$ from 'gender affirming medical procedures'. This is about global capture. Don't be so blase about it.
I'll put it this way, trans women are not women and trans men are not men *to me*. In fact, they haven't been to anyone until about 15 minutes ago, relative to the existence of human beings. But as long as you don't try to force this upside down, inside out, mumbo jumbo language on me, we'll be fine.
@madmax2976 why the hell do you still use the word transwomen and women or transmen and men if you think they aren't? stop that and don't force yourself............... 🫣
@@willodinga14 There you go assuming it's about what anyone thinks, instead of realizing it's about reality, regardless of what anyone thinks. Men aren't women and women aren't men even if they think so. A transwoman is a man who may think he's a woman, which is easy enough. It just doesn't mean he is one. Hopefully that alleviates your confusion.
Designed by artist Gilbert Baker at the request of San Francisco City Supervisor and first openly gay elected official in the history of California, Harvey Milk, the original rainbow flag made its debut at the San Francisco Gay Freedom Day Parade celebration on June 25, 1978. It was for the Gay Freedom Day Parade not transgender day parade. The Transgender flag is light pink, white & light blue. As a gay Man of 70 i always felt uncomfortable with the T being added to LGB. I also hate the word queer!! If I was 10 years old today, I probably would be groomed for transition: knowing my personality at that age.
Proverbs 22:6. Train up a boy when he is young, even when he grows old he will no turn aside from it. However this only proves true if he doesn't educate himself.
About halfway through: This is just frustratingly not what the rubric is, and weak-ish for what it is. As someone who is familiar with (esp) groupthink and various ideas about cults this is a very superficial gallop through some concepts, spiced with some argumentum ad hitlerium. I'm especially frustrated by the conflation of young transitioners with adults with some measure of power in institutions. (But she does like to make slides worth thinking about .)
I sincerely doubt the most well known flag before the LGBT flag was the NatSoc Swastika. I see the logic behind your assertion but even then the American flag is still probably more well know.
I switched off when she started referencing Nazism. Please don't. This is a issue in a sub group of a sub group in scale. What is being discussed is terrible and my sympathies to the many hurt. WW2 killed in the tens of millions and mained in the hundreds of millions and decimated a continent. Perspective.
Why? Experimental medicine on children that stunts their growth, leaves them sterile and unable to ever reach adult sexuality which means not ever having sexual orgasm and chopping the sexual organs off young people and trialling more experimental surgeries that have an outcome of unusable sexual organs and longterm health consequences is just as bad as what the Nazi’s did to the Jews. The numbers of these children and adults across the globe probably outnumber the 6 million Jews massacred by the Germans and other collaborators. The numbers of people harmed by this ideology is far higher when all the families and their extended relatives are included. This is definitely a cult that has caused devastation of massive proportions across the globe. It is you who need the perspective and to know when a cry for public understanding is what is actually needed as soon as possible.
This is a great talk, but Dr Kenny's lack of knowledge on Christian history and theology is frankly laughable. No, Christian holidays are not appropriations of pagan holidays, they in fact coincide with Jewish holidays because the first Chrsitians were former Jews. There are certainly aspects of Christian cultures from varius countries that have "appropriated" former pagan customs/symbols unique to those regions such as the early Christian depictions of Jesus as Apollo/Helios, or Jonah being depicted as Endymion. But this idea that Christian holidays are explicitly inspired by Roman pagan ones is such a myth I'm very surprised to hear an otherwise educated woman paying it any creedence. Talk about institutional capture I guess.
Depends how you define woman. With many moswrn definitions, such as the MW dictionary, the answer is yes. Its just a semantic issue and words change. Woman is now, for many, a gender marker and transwomen come under that label.
@@robertmarshall2502 Self-ID is a method, not a definition. So you can define woman, for example, as a social construct containing a set of social norms and then say that the way to align oneself with that set is to sincerely self-ID with it. Like how people do with religions, or the term spiritual. Seems easy enough, but I'm no scholar. Dictionaries define woman and include self-ID so it seems totally possible.
@@someonesomeone25 You can define woman via gender as a social construct with certain norms but then you have to outline in more detail what those norms are. Which never happens. It would need to then be specific to a society. In the West that would be pretty difficult to do which is why third genders appear more commonly in places where gender norms are far more strict. Then, because it is socially constructed, the admission or exclusion from that category would be reliant on social acceptance not self-id. All of this would essentially be an exercise in trying to live up to a stereotype and "passing". Then you need to define trans woman. And however you twist that 99%+ of these trans identifying males don't come close to living up to the gender they claim. So it would be more accurate to say a tiny proportion of trans women theoretically could live up to the gender woman. We don't seem to have any actual examples though. The connection with religion seems apt but again if you say you're a Christian but only read the Qur'an then others are able to disagree. And they won't let you join the priesthood. Having a belief is one thing but enforcing it on others is another. If trans ppl only wanted freedom of gender belief it wouldn't be so much of an issue. As long as they were able to take the fact that in the West we try not to treat ppl differently based on gender and so it would be unethical for us to start doing so for them as a special exception. Unfortunately that's not what many want. The males want access to female spaces. The rest of the word games is just a vehicle to allow them to end female rights and serve their own selfish interests. P.S. The other key is when the word woman means sex and when it means gender and how there are practically no times when the latter is preferable to the former when organizing society or creating laws.
@@robertmarshall2502 Right, so there's a lot of points there. Too many to deal with together in a single post. Best to discuss them one at a time. Let's start with 1: saying what norms belong to the set of a social construction. I agree they are culturally and temporally specific, fuzzy, and mutable. I don't see this listing as something that can be done exhaustively as a practical exercise, but that seems unnecessary. Ballpark and general indications seem adequate. As for people not doing that, I can't comment. But let's say I just rattle off half a dozen things found within that set for the UK. That would seem easy enough to do. I dont see the issue with this. What am I missing?
Sure. ANY word can come to """mean""" ANY nonsense you choose, when an authoritarian group captures enough institutions, and replaces a practical, useful, EVIDENCE-BASED definition, with an arbitrary, 100% evidence-free definition, that's based solely on religious faith, and the power of "but it FEEELS true, to me!!!" But even faith-based "gender" ideology relies on the old, un-forced, evidence-based definion of "woman". The men who declare themselves (with no evidence-based justification) as "trans women" rely on EXCLUSIVELY trying to imitate the superficial appearance of ADULT HUMAN FEMALES. -Men who declare themselves "trans women", take the FEMALE hormone of estrogen, explicitly for the purpose of producing FEMALE traits like breasts, lack of facial hair, typical FEMALE fat distribution, etc. -Men who declare themselves "trans women" get non-functional, saline implants, explicitly to imitate the superficial appearance of the functional breasts of an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE. -Men who declare themselves"trans women" often get their penis surgically mutilated, for the sole purpose of (trying to) making it cosmetically resemble the functional, working vagina of an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE. -When men who declare themselves "trans women" have visible traits that AREN'T displayed by adult human females, like facial hair, or chest hair, etc, they try to either hide or remove those traits, explicitly trying to maintain the illusion of being an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE... -men who declare themselves "trans women" refer to this as "passing"... But what are they trying to "pass" themeelves off AS, specifically? Most of them will ADMIT the blatantly obvious- That they're trying to "pass" as ADULT HUMAN FEMALES... These men may PRETEND they define the word "woman" in some other, spooky, mystical, pseudo-religious sense that can't possibly be reduced to actual physical evidence... But their BEHAVIOUR proves that the men who self-ID as "trans women", MORE THAN ANYONE, define "woman" strictly, exclusively as "adult human female" If these men AREN'T trying to imitate ADULT HUMAN FEMALES, then what's the purpose of their constant authoritarian demands to control the language of non-believers, to enforce the pronouns we use for ADULT HUMAN FEMALES, and to grant these men the special privileges, to violate the privacy, dignity and safety of (actual, evidence-based) women and girls, in spaces/groups exclusively for ADULT HUMAN FEMALES? Or is that just for the sake of being intolerant religious authoritarians, and of forcing their evidence-free, faith-based dogma onto non-believers?
Yet another demeaning view of a very vulnerable section of society that totally ignores the fact that the phenomenon of transsexual/transgender exists as a neurological & physiologically existential condition. No one is suggesting that trans women are female but gender dysphoria is a poor descriptor of what is an existential neurological condition ( it is not that trans women believe that they are female (necessarily) but that there is a miss match between their physical self & their existential awareness of self, this is a neurological condition, that does not relate to how some undertand it ie, that gender cannot be seperate from sex & that trans women can never be women. People who say this cannot grasp the fact that the word woman/man alignes with gender just as much as it does biological sex so sex & gender are aspects of the same thing but are also seperate. Thus the treatment for this existential phenomenon cannot be & is not solely about outward expression (where some surgeries/medication play a role) but also to alleviate the existential angst of existing in a body that does not match one's concious existential self. The general understanding from decades of research is that you cannot merely treat this condition (in every case) merely through psychotherapy in order to convert or correct someone's psyche & since mainstream society only recognises the concensus of the majority in terms of biology & biological expression, those trans people that need to fit into that narrative (the binary) go through these treatments in order to (as much as possible) align themselves with what is socially seen as being a woman & through hormone treatment & surgery becoming as close as possible to female despite the clear understanding that they're not. Also trying to segregate trans women from female spaces using the biological essentialism viewpoint just makes any and all transitional treatment pointless causing even more mental health issues for trans women.
Most of it has to do with sexual fetishes. Many of those men get off on dressing female and invading women’s spaces such as bathrooms. How are we supposed to protect young girls from such men?
The host asks how the world got to this point of insanity, and how did we get here. The first guest explained in truth what is going on she exposed transgender ideology as a deadly cult. The second guest joined later. Explained exactly why and how we got here. The reason because when the world rejects God, God is the truth the way, and the life. We become reprobates.
Finally someone has the courage and correct explanation of linguistic and phenomenological aspects of transgender identity.
It is good to have such insight and depth but the evil of the left has been obvious to everyone with a moral compass for years. This gender ideology is just one front of the left's attack of western civilisation.
Finally?
And who might that be, as I missed it myself.
There's no such thing as transgender identity.
I can’t believe that we are even having this conversation. Autogynephilia is the issue.
Thank you Dianna Kenny!
Truly a brave woman in these crazy times.
Short answer: NO.
Long answer: absolutely not!
Thanks, you saved me an hour. (though I’m still going to watch of course ;) )
I hope this is your answer to the question: 'are transwomen women?' Great argumentation in any case.
I think transwomen are women. Seems a semantic debate.
Correct answer is yes, transwomen are women, but they are not ciswomen they are transwomen. They are women born with the wrong Gentelia
The important answer is the truthful answer though. And the truthful answer is yes, they are definitely women, and the proof is right in your face with the name transWOMEN. If they were not women, the name would not have the word Women in it. The thing the right-wing folks are trying to say is they are not ciswomen. When they are not even claiming to be ciswomen. Transwomen are not claiming to be ciswomen. They claim to be transwomen, but they are still women. A transwoman is a woman who was born with a penis rather than the normal Viginia. Why the hell is that so dam hard to understand?
Transwomen are men. We must reclaim that idea!
It's not an idea, it's a fact.
@ankavoskuilen1725 than first don't call them even trans woman! stop that bullshit, they'll never know and never be. let them choose an other name. só much fantasy but finding an own name................ 🫣
Trans identifying men
@@annikabjornson998 Transgender identifying men. 'Trans' is too vague. Which is why they use it.
Trans what?
Transvestite? Is a cross dresser.
Even they know changing their clothes can't be misconstrued as a 'civil rights movement.' It's just clothes.
Transsexual? Has had cosmetic surgery in weird places.
And that's all it is. Those parts they are having altered in appearance are part of an entire reproductive system, which does not change. It's just for looks.
Transgender? A fairly new concept. And the one behind all the legislation.
Make them define it. They can't in any kind of cohesive terms.
They don't merit changing our language
Thank you Dr. Kenny (and all of you shining the light). You are so brave. You are making a difference.
Comparing and contrasting Dr Kenny's approach to that of, say, Judith Butler is your clarity of exposition and reference to verifiable sources. Judith Butler's papers and books are confused and unintelligible with only unverifiable anecdotes quoted.
I think Dr Kenny's varied professional background has enhanced her account of this psychological and social phenomenon, greatly.
Thanks for posting this.
Outstanding, heartfelt thanks to all of you for your clarity and courage. It's astounding that Australia and NZ are charging ahead despite the progress people in the UK and some European and Scandinavian countries are making.
The concept of autogynephilia needs to be publicised far more....everyone seems to tiptoe around it.
Thank god for Genspect! A sane organization in an insane culture.
Genspect is just another trojan horse . We need doctors to step up and make medical standards of care for these dual ( multiple) diagnosis conditions instead of corporations with vested interests like WPATH & Genspect setting the standards of care. It baffles me TBH
I greatly enjoyed Dr. Kenny's often chilling hypothesis of how transgender ideology activists have been able to get public, private and educational institutions to basically eat out of their hands. And have convinced civil authorities and politician to come down hard on so called :haters" who dare to utter truths like "there are only two sexes' and "a man can not become a woman just by saying so."Do that theses days and you risk being figuratively burned at the stake.
Meanwhile women and girls are not safe in public changerooms and washrooms.
Could you explain what this hypothesis is?
I'm asking in earnest, because I honestly just did not get what her main point(s) were except for "this is a religion/cult". Which in my mind doesn't answer the question of HOW.
@@Asptuber Maybe research more on Social Contagion, because that is the hypothesis. Social Contagion is what creates a religion or a cult. So, the labeling it as a religion or a cult, is the conceptual outcome of the hypothesis of Social Contagion (cause). Sorry, I hope that made sense.
@@Lenergyiskey358 Yes, I got _that_. But it is only the first step, it doesn't explain how this worked its way inside institutions. As i wrote in another comment "I'm especially frustrated by the conflation of young transitioners with adults with some measure of power in institutions."
@@Asptuber I was reflecting on the same thing - the "how". I'll give it a try what I've seen in this talk specifically (not in an specific order nad please excuse my English, not a native speaker): Appropriation ("night before pride"), symbols (flags) and language (neo-pronouns) are (some of the) the tools; In-group/Out-group an important mechanism and children(s spaces) the target to implement the ideology into the wider population.
The answer is in the term. If trans women were women we would call them women, not trans women
Totally agree. Furthermore, why do they call biological woman cis woman?. Just call them woman
@@lolfzbf 🫸 don't call me like that and also don't call me person with an uterus, that's my privacy! I warn you all............... 👊
@@lolfzbf Obviously they want to have a division between themselves and actual biological women. So, they engage in some George Orwell 1984 NEWSPEAK tactics to further confuse the matter.
@@willodinga14 Amen!!!
They started to call themselves women, not trans women. This where the gates for manipulation opens.
Thank you for this very learned presentation, dedicated to truth.
Very grateful for Dr Dianna Kenny's clarity of thought on the matter of 'institutional capture'in this time of what is a rampaging psy-pandemic of transgender ideology, ( and applicable to other false ideologies that are taking over people's minds).
This presentation on institutional capture is so timely! It blew me away! Thank you Dianna for your clear analyses and comparisons. I hope the powers that are in charge are going to see the light instead of reprimanding you. 🙏
Thanks for the presentation. Very informative.
The quality of the speakers has been excellent throughout without exception. Thanks for uploading these.
Gustav Le Bon’s ‘The Crowd- A study of the popular mind’
Is one of the most important books I’ve ever read.
And the parallels between everything we see now and Nazism has and continues to strike me like lightening from the sky.
If you do understand the progressive slip into the most extreme dictates of Nazism - it’s impossible not to recognise the subtle signs of social conformity, punishment and cowardice that has overtaken the social consciousness in the evolution of the trans movement.
One day I said to my friend I don’t understand what’s happened - it’s like everyone is speaking a whole new language, it was so unsettling.
It wasn’t the first thing I noticed but it was the most reality shifting.
Do you mean the book by Douglas Murray?
@@sylviabarnes480
oh dear lord!
Sorry, I meant The Crowd - A study of the popular mind.
I always think of the title/phrase ‘the madness of crowds’ when I think of that book
I’ll edit it now.
@@sylviabarnes480 thanks for pointing it out
@@Nous520thanks. I'll get hold of a copy.
Le Bon's work has now largely been discredited.
Thank you for shining the light on all this transgender woke BS.
So, the truth noadays is called woke BS, HUH? I'm getting on up into my 70s so I need a little help keeping up with this new language. Transgender has been around much longer than me, and I have been around for over 75 years so far. I can't see what is so hard to understand. I mean nature makes mistakes all the time. So, why is it so hard to believe a woman can be born with a penis rather than a Viginia?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you Dr Dianna Kenny.
You know who never asks this question of women? OTHER WOMEN.
The short answer is no… the long answer is… no.
The answer is always and will always be...NO!!!
This is why we homeschool our children. WE have educated them and NOT the state.🖕
I am 53 years old and have been anti-establishment my entire life. What has protected me was an inner curiosity and a deep seated desire to avoid following the crowd, trends, fads, gimmicks etc. My 72 year old mother is the same and we share information about the decline of civilization so we stay updated. We are both bible believing Christians and know what we are experiencing is a spiritual battle of good versus evil. Satan no longer cares to hide his deceit and openly operates in full view, knowing he has captured the minds of billions of human beings.
Very well done !!
No. The End.
Absolutely brilliant
Working Girl is a great film from the 80's and one of the quotes in it is ... “Sometimes I sing and dance around the house in my underwear. Doesn’t make me Madonna. Never will.” ... this is what pops in my mind whenever I see anything debating the current craziness. Nobody is saying you can't enjoy dancing in your underwear, but the point when you start believing you are actually Madonna and no longer yourself is when it has gone too far.
Damn, I'm gonna stop dancing around the house in my underwear.
Again, BRILLIANT
I’m brilliant too!
Short answer.... NO - They're not!
History is going to look back on this period with absolute amazement smh
If they _were_ women, you wouldn't have to be asking. This convo exists because they AREN'T.
I so hope so but not without many casualties on the way!
But people are cancelling history because they’re “uncomfortable” with it. This is the way lessons are forgotten, and atrocities revisited! Don’t pull down that statue, use it to teach, so we cannot forget the past.
I loved the talk, and wish more thinkers were addressing the logic as in the beginning of this talk, specifically (and this was where I had hoped this talk was going) with respect to representation, simulation, and Kripke’s conceptualisation of the necessary aposteriori. Magritte’s pipe touches on the first two and hints towards the third, but it’s overall an underrepresented perspective. Maybe I’ll have to make my own talk to get at the crux of the inconsistencies in terms of linguistics, logic, and conversation.
Nature is ..what it is. It is perfect in design and function, but some humans get confused about this fact.
I agree with you. Sadly nature has its own rules no matter how we feel about them. @@Jaspergiraffe
The beginning of this with the pipe reminds me of the Is It Cake? show where you guess if an object is what it looks like or if it’s actually cake! Makes sense to make this comparison 🧐 it may look like a cup of coffee, but it isn’t a cup of coffee. OR if you wanna say there are veggies burgers and beef burgers. No one would know that a veggie burger was a veggie burger until they bit into it and notice it’s the patty that is veggie. It has all the same dressing and such as the beef, but they’re entirely different compositions on the inside and have different tastes.
extremely accurate comparison, no wonder Is It Cake became so popular!
no- they are men
wow shes good
If you make large gametes you are female, if you make small gametes, you are male.
Stella O'Malley recommended parents review school curriculum, and websites of organisations presenting at schools for reference to WPATH standards of care; then to contact the school and ask if they are aware that WPATH has been discredited as an organisation. Both the WPATH files and the Cass Review are easy to provide to schools via links. So is refusing permission for children to attend presentations by said organisations.
NSW Government is about to pass legislation to secure Gender Affirmative Care under an Equality Bill, while establishing a trans youth clinic which will use Auspath medical practices....GAC!!!!!
It’s strikes me also that Christianity seems to encompass all the values we have lost and the warnings against the defiling of those values.
As holding the child as sacred who in infancy is as vulnerable and wild as an animal.
The importance of the motherly nurture and of her ability to allow her child the freedom to risk being broken by the world - to avoid over coddling your child, to train the wild animalistic nature out of them and towards being a dignified and respectful member of the family and of the wider society.
So that he can be prepared to act alone in the world with true understated, unseen but felt virtue.
The virtues of loving your neighbour as if he is yourself - is to be able to make hard decisions such as not giving everyone what they want because in the long run it’s bad for them over taking the easy option for yourself and giving in.
Even the aspect of king Herald wanting every male Jew newborn killed.
It seems Christianity speaks to every psychological motivation and offers the layout to understanding those motivations and the real life consequences in symbolic metaphor to illustrate universal truths.
As a collective we are all naturally designed to orient toward an organising principal. Where secularism has flattened the landscape to make room for liberalism - the majority still unconsciously gravitate toward a higher structure. Trans activists have stepped in to fill that role.
Pity the Church of England have fallen for this ideology hook line and sinker.
@@joedge6142is that really surprising though? The church of England was founded so a man could get a divorce. It has never existed to truly represent the church that Jesus described
There is nothing "liberal" in the classic definition of the word about Queer theory and gender ideology. What you are describing is moral relativisim.
@@Gingerblaze I’m not saying that liberalism is responsible for queer theory. I’m saying the absence of religion or a higher moral principle beyond the human individual leads to differing moral values and priorities. Which in essence is what liberalism is.
Liberalism is beautiful in theory but not everyone can be trusted to act with morally calibrated motivation.
We DO have to subjugate ourselves to something fundamentally higher than ourselves. For some truth itself is enough and that should be enough - to me God is equal to truth rather than perfection.
If people would take the bible and god less literally, it would translate to “the essence of truth” in every domain of life for human beings.
And in essence, liberalism tries to achieve that but without a higher principle that incorporates self reflection as well as direction In those who may have more selfish desires but would be god fearing enough to monitor themselves.
Which religion DOESN'T hold children as sacred, or preach treating your neighbour as yourself? (Not even sure how that last one is directly relevant- A believer in "gender" nonsense would say that caving in to a child's desire to """"transition"""" IS "treating your neighbour, as yourself"; ie Allowing the kid's desires, in the same way we ALL want our desires to be allowed... that's why they're called "desires"... But the reason we DON'T allow children legal consent, is because we acknowledge that children need special protection, even from their own desires.
Children are the one group who we DON'T "treat, as we wish to be treated".
Children are, for very good reason, given special protection, that would be "authoritarian lack of autonomy", if applied to an adult).
I kind of agree, that "gender" insanity has stepped into a vacuum of foundational moral bedrock, that USED to be inhabited by religion, in past decades. But I don't see how the issue is absence of Christianity, specifically (except that it was the norm in the West, historically).
Muslims make this exact same argument (often extending it, to CRITICIZE Christianity); "Look what's happening in these Western/Christian nations- People don't know if they're men or women, and they're sterilizing their own kids!!! THIS is what happens, without the guidance of Islam!!! THIS is the result of the weakness and permissiveness of Christianity!!"
There are Christians who support all this "gender" insanity. And while it's true that many trans-activists atheists, many of its biggest OPPONENTS are atheists, too- Richard Dawkins, Kellie Jane Keen, Cathleen Stock, J. K Rowling, etc.
If there's any one issue where people from ALL belief systems, Christian, atheist, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, whatever, should all agree on, it's this one- Protecting children from needless mutilation/sterilization. And acknowledging the simple, immutable physiological reality of the two sexes.
If there's ANY issue where we shouldn't get distracted by "my ideology is better than yours", and should stand in solidarity, REGARDLESS of religion/lack of religion, it's THIS issue...
Why can't we be as honest as the Samoans? They call such men "fa'afafine", which literally means "in the manner of a woman"? That's what they're doing. These men are living in the manner of women. But they are not, and can't be, women. That's how language should work, conforming to natural distinctions where they exist.
@ChollieD they're NOT mannering in a way women do, not at all! they think so, act like homosexual clowns and make very bad and strong insulting caricatures of women. they can't know how women are because they've never been one. we always learned women have a different brain from men!
agree completely. What I hate about this cult is the horrific operations and drugs that people are encouraged to take. Dress as you wish , live as you wish but leave our kids alone.
No. They are not. I am not playing along.
No, they are not & the longer we entertain this silliness, the worse it will be to unravel.
Not sure if I missed it but capturing organisations has permeated the legal systems of the UK and, I believe, Canada.
just watched the clip where the transwoman is asked 'what is a woman?' and basically defines a woman as a human being. Years ago - back in the '80's - I watched a show where the guests were trans sexual women (no trans men) and the host asked them 'Why do you think you are a woman?'. Even then I was struck by how banal and confused their answers were: by their definition I was not a woman because I didn't want to wear high heels, loads of make up, and paint my nails. That's literally how ridiculously 'surface' their answers were.
The answer is no.
If you HAVE to ask.... there's the answers.
Of course NOT!!!!!
NOT EVEN CLOSE.
PUT LIPSTICK ON PIG.... DOES THAT MAKE IT A WOMAN??? NO.
Masculinity and femininity are very different too male and female
The answer to the question is no.
no.
No
My thoughts exactly.
No.
I really, truly, sincerely *want* to try to understand this.
If sex (or gender) is not binary… and some people (if they choose) can call themselves “non-binary” in tribute to such… then wouldn’t that make a “2 spirit” person *extra binary* or *double-binary* or something like that? I mean, what are the two spirits in question, if not some kind of binary? I’m looking for internal logical consistency here…
Oh. I’m American. Clearly I’d have to be Canadian to truly understand whatever “two spirit” is even supposed to mean in the first place.
Ok, I’m done being facetious.
I’m a Canadian and I can tell you we don’t understand it either
Once upon a time we were identified, ruled and contained by class - poor, middle, rich, elite. We have moved away from class identity to gender, race and sexuality identity isn't a bourgeoisie conspiracy theory. Rather,
its a strategy implemented to save the leftist movement from irrelevancy. Morality determined by individuals is the new political game and can’t be achieved unless it's done with tyranny and authoritarian force and that force has now claimed to be the official arbiter of what's right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. This is what has allowed for the tyranny of cancel culture. The deplatforming of people who have views out of alignment of the official narrative, labelling these people bigoted, racist misogynist, etc, clamping down on free speech and debate, is the only way the left can institute the “unity” that only an
objective morality can provide. This is the only way to achieve class consciousness and will eventually lead to the downfall of this country and every country that is buying into this garbage.
If you define yourself as "not-x," then "x" must exist. In order for "non-binary" to exist, the binary must exist. If the binary exists, then there are only 2 options, as that is the definition of "binary." Hence, there is no 3rd ("non-binary") option. Just one of many inherent contradictions in this gender nonsense.
Two spirit is a term coined in the 90s and wasn’t used by indigenous cultures. And most indigenous cultures have very clear roles for the two sexes. Which is why many people who felt that they didn’t fit into one of those very strict roles ended up dressing as the other, taking on the roles of the other. Because those cultures forced them into it due to a complete lack of embracing certain behaviors. But now activists are trying to claim this as some kind of sign of how culturally superior those cultures are, and how natural it all is. There have been many documentaries about how the Ladyboys of Thailand, and the Sistagals of New Zealand weren’t accepted as gay men in very strict binary cultures, so they were forced to pretend to be women. Same in Iraq where gay men are given the choice of transition, or else.
just saw in Thailand they aren't called woman or transwoman. it's a separate (third) group and they still are called (lady)boys indeed! I haven't seen video's yet about woman who think they are men. I can't imagine they are called gentlemangirls.............. 🤷♀️
Q) Are transgender women female?
A) No, because xx and xy.
End of interview. End of video.
End of video? Why would you say that? The point isn't to point out falsehoods, it is to understand *why* people would believe falsehoods.
Right
@@ZzyzzyxWhy would a person believe a falsehood?
Because they see life differently.
Because they think differently.
Because of their upbringing.
Because they have a hard time giving up a lifetime belief.
The reasons are ad infinitum.
_Why_ a person believes what they believe isn't going to change the fact.
@@thissunchild The question at hand is not why an individual would believe a falsehood - but why *people* believe them, en masse - how whole societies are convinced to proclaim that 2 + 2 = 5.
@@thissunchild If you don't want to watch, then don't. Your flippant attitude is counterintuitive to the conversation.
"You either believe in them or you don't."
No.
There. Done.
❤
Reminds me of the Dada movement.
Common sense tells us that the answer is no
NO
Genspect gives parents permission to say no to their kids and the ability to say I don’t approve of your choices and won’t affirm or even pay for any treatment. If your child threatens suicide then deal with it IF it happens but don’t be held hostage by your child. ( and yes I’m a mother).Children need parents to be like a rock, strong and unmovable. It gives them something solid to lean against when the storm confronts them. At least parents have somewhere to learn about this phenomenon, as previous parents were being kept in the dark and tricked into going along with this ridiculous ideology.
According to Lady GaGa- yes! International womens day! A big thumbs up on trans women. A huge endorsement.
It is both pathetic and terrifying that this poor woman even has to give a presentation like this.
We spent 7+ years having to deal with the other side comparing everyone to the WWII national socialists of Germany. And now this side is doing it. Even if the comparisons are actually valid, it really makes people lose confidence in that persons ability to argue their side without being extreme and reactionary.
I’m still going to go with the people who are refusing the marxist programming.
@@7eyesopenwide168 Yes, but it makes the other side look less crazy when this side is becoming more like them. As soon as I hear people throwing around those comparisons I bristle and I find myself questioning the credibility of the person doing so. I’m just trying to let Genspect know that they might consider this for future videos. Rational and even minded people are very turned off by that kind of hyperbole. Editing is a wonderful thing to get rid of that kinds of ridiculous content from an otherwise very informative and interesting lecture.
Except in the case of the left, it IS hyperbole. I think Dr. Kenny’s comparisons and examples were well founded and fitting, unfortunately.
The activists called individuals Nazis as an insult and to silence them. This lady is comparing the very successful methods of indoctrination of people and institutions, it’s learning from history and completely different. We are getting similar punishments and silencing over Islamism. It seems some learned from history in order to repeat it.
@@DannerCando-ev4fo The left believed exactly the same except about their position
Pritzker.
Just dropped in to say men are not women. I dont need to listen to over an hour of anyone to know that.
Dr, Dianna Kenny explains institutional capture! This is NOT about 'men are not women', it goes much deeper than that. It's about HOW governments globally are being sucked into a dangerous gender ideology, and big pharma making billions of $$$ from 'gender affirming medical procedures'. This is about global capture. Don't be so blase about it.
Absolutely NOT. -biological woman
Why hasn’t Genspect gone to conservative business persons with kids and grandkids for funding??
I'll put it this way, trans women are not women and trans men are not men *to me*. In fact, they haven't been to anyone until about 15 minutes ago, relative to the existence of human beings. But as long as you don't try to force this upside down, inside out, mumbo jumbo language on me, we'll be fine.
It's being forced.
@madmax2976 why the hell do you still use the word transwomen and women or transmen and men if you think they aren't? stop that and don't force yourself............... 🫣
@@willodinga14 There you go assuming it's about what anyone thinks, instead of realizing it's about reality, regardless of what anyone thinks. Men aren't women and women aren't men even if they think so. A transwoman is a man who may think he's a woman, which is easy enough. It just doesn't mean he is one. Hopefully that alleviates your confusion.
It's only an extreme form of plastic surgery. I don't believe they can alter the chromosomes as of yet.
They can but it's not approved for humans. Germany has been doing it to cattle for years now.
Designed by artist Gilbert Baker at the request of San Francisco City Supervisor and first openly gay elected official in the history of California, Harvey Milk, the original rainbow flag made its debut at the San Francisco Gay Freedom Day Parade celebration on June 25, 1978.
It was for the Gay Freedom Day Parade not transgender day parade.
The Transgender flag is light pink, white & light blue.
As a gay Man of 70 i always felt uncomfortable with the T being added to LGB. I also hate the word queer!!
If I was 10 years old today, I probably would be groomed for transition: knowing my personality at that age.
No lol
No they are not!
"Ceci n'est pas une femme" LOVE IT!
no they are whoaman and whoamen
hope the man and all men agree, but absolutely don't think so!
Proverbs 22:6. Train up a boy when he is young, even when he grows old he will no turn aside from it. However this only proves true if he doesn't educate himself.
How have we got to the point of this being exceptional? This is used be common sense and science 🤷🏼♀️
She’s describing the cult of trump too!
About halfway through: This is just frustratingly not what the rubric is, and weak-ish for what it is.
As someone who is familiar with (esp) groupthink and various ideas about cults this is a very superficial gallop through some concepts, spiced with some argumentum ad hitlerium. I'm especially frustrated by the conflation of young transitioners with adults with some measure of power in institutions.
(But she does like to make slides worth thinking about .)
The person I would very much like to hear about this issue (Institutional capture wrt transideology) is Carol Tavris.
I sincerely doubt the most well known flag before the LGBT flag was the NatSoc Swastika. I see the logic behind your assertion but even then the American flag is still probably more well know.
Not for youth.
The American flag is the flag of a country....that's the difference
In any case, it doesn’t help anyone’s case to go straight to Godwin’s Law.
I switched off when she started referencing Nazism.
Please don't.
This is a issue in a sub group of a sub group in scale.
What is being discussed is terrible and my sympathies to the many hurt.
WW2 killed in the tens of millions and mained in the hundreds of millions and decimated a continent.
Perspective.
Why? Experimental medicine on children that stunts their growth, leaves them sterile and unable to ever reach adult sexuality which means not ever having sexual orgasm and chopping the sexual organs off young people and trialling more experimental surgeries that have an outcome of unusable sexual organs and longterm health consequences is just as bad as what the Nazi’s did to the Jews. The numbers of these children and adults across the globe probably outnumber the 6 million Jews massacred by the Germans and other collaborators. The numbers of people harmed by this ideology is far higher when all the families and their extended relatives are included.
This is definitely a cult that has caused devastation of massive proportions across the globe.
It is you who need the perspective and to know when a cry for public understanding is what is actually needed as soon as possible.
Wtf
Could care less.
This is a great talk, but Dr Kenny's lack of knowledge on Christian history and theology is frankly laughable. No, Christian holidays are not appropriations of pagan holidays, they in fact coincide with Jewish holidays because the first Chrsitians were former Jews. There are certainly aspects of Christian cultures from varius countries that have "appropriated" former pagan customs/symbols unique to those regions such as the early Christian depictions of Jesus as Apollo/Helios, or Jonah being depicted as Endymion. But this idea that Christian holidays are explicitly inspired by Roman pagan ones is such a myth I'm very surprised to hear an otherwise educated woman paying it any creedence. Talk about institutional capture I guess.
Depends how you define woman. With many moswrn definitions, such as the MW dictionary, the answer is yes. Its just a semantic issue and words change. Woman is now, for many, a gender marker and transwomen come under that label.
But only if you go to pains to not define woman or trans woman. Or you reduce those words to self-id labels which are utterly meaningless.
@@robertmarshall2502 Self-ID is a method, not a definition. So you can define woman, for example, as a social construct containing a set of social norms and then say that the way to align oneself with that set is to sincerely self-ID with it. Like how people do with religions, or the term spiritual. Seems easy enough, but I'm no scholar. Dictionaries define woman and include self-ID so it seems totally possible.
@@someonesomeone25 You can define woman via gender as a social construct with certain norms but then you have to outline in more detail what those norms are. Which never happens.
It would need to then be specific to a society. In the West that would be pretty difficult to do which is why third genders appear more commonly in places where gender norms are far more strict.
Then, because it is socially constructed, the admission or exclusion from that category would be reliant on social acceptance not self-id. All of this would essentially be an exercise in trying to live up to a stereotype and "passing".
Then you need to define trans woman. And however you twist that 99%+ of these trans identifying males don't come close to living up to the gender they claim. So it would be more accurate to say a tiny proportion of trans women theoretically could live up to the gender woman. We don't seem to have any actual examples though.
The connection with religion seems apt but again if you say you're a Christian but only read the Qur'an then others are able to disagree. And they won't let you join the priesthood. Having a belief is one thing but enforcing it on others is another.
If trans ppl only wanted freedom of gender belief it wouldn't be so much of an issue. As long as they were able to take the fact that in the West we try not to treat ppl differently based on gender and so it would be unethical for us to start doing so for them as a special exception.
Unfortunately that's not what many want. The males want access to female spaces. The rest of the word games is just a vehicle to allow them to end female rights and serve their own selfish interests.
P.S. The other key is when the word woman means sex and when it means gender and how there are practically no times when the latter is preferable to the former when organizing society or creating laws.
@@robertmarshall2502 Right, so there's a lot of points there. Too many to deal with together in a single post. Best to discuss them one at a time.
Let's start with 1: saying what norms belong to the set of a social construction.
I agree they are culturally and temporally specific, fuzzy, and mutable. I don't see this listing as something that can be done exhaustively as a practical exercise, but that seems unnecessary. Ballpark and general indications seem adequate.
As for people not doing that, I can't comment. But let's say I just rattle off half a dozen things found within that set for the UK. That would seem easy enough to do.
I dont see the issue with this. What am I missing?
Sure. ANY word can come to """mean""" ANY nonsense you choose, when an authoritarian group captures enough institutions, and replaces a practical, useful, EVIDENCE-BASED definition, with an arbitrary, 100% evidence-free definition, that's based solely on religious faith, and the power of "but it FEEELS true, to me!!!"
But even faith-based "gender" ideology relies on the old, un-forced, evidence-based definion of "woman".
The men who declare themselves (with no evidence-based justification) as "trans women" rely on EXCLUSIVELY trying to imitate the superficial appearance of ADULT HUMAN FEMALES.
-Men who declare themselves "trans women", take the FEMALE hormone of estrogen, explicitly for the purpose of producing FEMALE traits like breasts, lack of facial hair, typical FEMALE fat distribution, etc.
-Men who declare themselves "trans women" get non-functional, saline implants, explicitly to imitate the superficial appearance of the functional breasts of an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE.
-Men who declare themselves"trans women" often get their penis surgically mutilated, for the sole purpose of (trying to) making it cosmetically resemble the functional, working vagina of an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE.
-When men who declare themselves "trans women" have visible traits that AREN'T displayed by adult human females, like facial hair, or chest hair, etc, they try to either hide or remove those traits, explicitly trying to maintain the illusion of being an ADULT HUMAN FEMALE...
-men who declare themselves "trans women" refer to this as "passing"... But what are they trying to "pass" themeelves off AS, specifically? Most of them will ADMIT the blatantly obvious- That they're trying to "pass" as ADULT HUMAN FEMALES...
These men may PRETEND they define the word "woman" in some other, spooky, mystical, pseudo-religious sense that can't possibly be reduced to actual physical evidence... But their BEHAVIOUR proves that the men who self-ID as "trans women", MORE THAN ANYONE, define "woman" strictly, exclusively as "adult human female"
If these men AREN'T trying to imitate ADULT HUMAN FEMALES, then what's the purpose of their constant authoritarian demands to control the language of non-believers, to enforce the pronouns we use for ADULT HUMAN FEMALES, and to grant these men the special privileges, to violate the privacy, dignity and safety of (actual, evidence-based) women and girls, in spaces/groups exclusively for ADULT HUMAN FEMALES?
Or is that just for the sake of being intolerant religious authoritarians, and of forcing their evidence-free, faith-based dogma onto non-believers?
This would have been a good talk if she wasn't reading from her paper for over an hour but talking to the audience.
What a superficial and irrelevant criticism.
Yet another demeaning view of a very vulnerable section of society that totally ignores the fact that the phenomenon of transsexual/transgender exists as a neurological & physiologically existential condition. No one is suggesting that trans women are female but gender dysphoria is a poor descriptor of what is an existential neurological condition ( it is not that trans women believe that they are female (necessarily) but that there is a miss match between their physical self & their existential awareness of self, this is a neurological condition, that does not relate to how some undertand it ie, that gender cannot be seperate from sex & that trans women can never be women. People who say this cannot grasp the fact that the word woman/man alignes with gender just as much as it does biological sex so sex & gender are aspects of the same thing but are also seperate. Thus the treatment for this existential phenomenon cannot be & is not solely about outward expression (where some surgeries/medication play a role) but also to alleviate the existential angst of existing in a body that does not match one's concious existential self. The general understanding from decades of research is that you cannot merely treat this condition (in every case) merely through psychotherapy in order to convert or correct someone's psyche & since mainstream society only recognises the concensus of the majority in terms of biology & biological expression, those trans people that need to fit into that narrative (the binary) go through these treatments in order to (as much as possible) align themselves with what is socially seen as being a woman & through hormone treatment & surgery becoming as close as possible to female despite the clear understanding that they're not. Also trying to segregate trans women from female spaces using the biological essentialism viewpoint just makes any and all transitional treatment pointless causing even more mental health issues for trans women.
Most of it has to do with sexual fetishes. Many of those men get off on dressing female and invading women’s spaces such as bathrooms. How are we supposed to protect young girls from such men?
Transwomen are a category of men, not women.
When a schizophrenic genuinely believes that they are Caesar, does society have to treat that person as Caesar?
Biology is the reason we segregated men and women. It doesn’t suddenly become irrelevant.
They are claiming to be female which is why sex rights are being eroded.
The host asks how the world got to this point of insanity, and how did we get here. The first guest explained in truth what is going on she exposed transgender ideology as a deadly cult. The second guest joined later. Explained exactly why and how we got here. The reason because when the world rejects God, God is the truth the way, and the life. We become reprobates.
no. no they are not.
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