5 Things You're Probably Doing Wrong in Jets - War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
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I really didn't want to have to make this video guys, I'm sorry but there is so many new folks right now and they need to hear this. We will be digging deeper into some of the basics over the next couple months. Please let me know if you have any specific topics you want covered.
Meanwhile, Gaijin makes a video on aircraft to win head ons with! Fml
even the older players are still doing those stupid things :/
I'm gonna be honest here, my overall skill level has gone down because of the aforementioned. There is challenges in fighting multiple players at once, but I rarely if ever face someone that knows what theyre doing in a 1v1 scenario.... And that hurts me because when I do encounter someone that knows what they're doing, the outcome isn't always like I hoped. We need those challenges to stay proficient.
Can you do a video on aiming with jets. I can play well but when it comes to getting the kill I always miss shots I should hit
@@WhooptieDo I think a lot of the issue is how overly potent missles have become reducing the need for actual skill. BR compression is awful as well. If you get a shenyang behind you in a hunter F.1 you basically just hope your opponent screws up.
@@WhooptieDo I'm sorry but with my ADHD I cant not have tunnel vision, unless I don't take medication, but even then still difficult.
5 things I’m probably doing wrong:
1.) Playing them in the first place
Same
yes
Honestly, low tier is so much more fun
in most cases yeah. I do enjoy higher tier in sim though despite the american bomber spam
@@Kay_213_ same
Before I watch, here are the 5 things I think he’ll mention 1. Turnfighting 2. Climbing like a prop 3. Full commit headons 4. TURNFIGHTING 5. Not keeping speed up
How'd you know?!? 😂😂
Wait did I actually get it right? I haven’t watched it yet
You weren't exactly right. Pretty damn close though. Full commits, prop climbing, diving and giving up energy, tunnel vision, and approach angles.
@@WhooptieDo i like the free SL at top tier😋
Turnfighting? Laughs in Venom
I was in a 9.0 match and someone ask where the airfield was to land. Yes he bought the premium jet and was in his 3rd match in his war thunder career. There is your failure, right there Gaijin.
By the same token, there's no good way to learn jets other than to fly them, Gajin doesn't exactly make their jet community very accessible
The is one map (I think its Malta but not sure) where the AF is right next to another runway. I have over 1550 hours but still I manage to accidentally land at that airfield several times :P
@@xanderwusky3001 IKR! I've done that too. I also saw 2 people do it together and both realize their mistake after.
@@turkeyboy5543 yeahits mostly annoying when you have a fucked engine haha. Then you think you managed to make it but now you are stuck on the wrong AF :P
The only way I managed to grind to top tier US jets was with the premium Sabre. But then again, I was playing WT on and off for years (started in 2013 - played almost exclusively Ground RB for a long time) before I did so, and I actually know how to fly lol
It's painful when you are typically the last person alive on the team, and there are still 3 - 5 enemy jets still up, because your teammates couldn't fly right even if their lives depended on it...
translation to more vague terms:
rule 1: nobody wins a headbutt
rule 2: you can't make that jump without a running start
rule 3: don't waste your potential on lowlifes
rule 4: the deeper the hole you dig the harder to get out of it
rule 5: don't try to 1v1 in a cage match
That's bullshit, I will play the game as I want and not as one youtube noob tell me
Hitlepos IXV HAHAHAHA you’re the guy who crashes on runway.
@@cornbread2910 btw I don't remember such a thing, for the enemy team...=faster and easier win
Hitlepos IXV what
Lel this guy is just gonna come in and shit on probably 1 of the best jet pilots in WT like he’s some kind of god
Also please don’t listen to him and full commit head on without evading cuz that’s more free kills 4 me
i'm blaming the premiums and you've hit all the nails on the head, jets are very frustrating currently
Yep, and I hope this video gets to all the premium players. I really do.
@@WhooptieDo they're not going to listen. The issue is these players have so much ego that they think they're the best.
@@WhooptieDo you'll find them on redit spamming "DEErRR hash dER taggg DERRR fix da gaimme DERRR"
FiX mY kD gAiJiN
You should single out the premium players. I bought a plane and got good. Now I see regular players and premiums acting like idiots doing it all wrong.
Im relatively new to my squadron and one day on discord theyre amazed that I can "read my enemies movements". Then I realized they have no clue the C key exists...
Yeah, I think it's pretty common these days
XD people don’t know that is a thing? I thought it was common knowledge
@@astifeux5787 lol
What’s the C key?… I play with a HOTAS I don’t use a keyboard
@@SPFLDAngler its a freelook key basically
It's actually good to be dead with one kill nowadays - it's almost a win. Most of the matches I'm dead with 1-3 kills, and all my teammates are dead with 0.
Anton S but think of all the help you would have given to your team if you didnt die
Some planes cant profit with 1 or even 2 kills and a death, example is f-80. Takes 3 kills to profit. 2 kills and 8 ground strikes can get you 16.5k SL right now. The death costs 19xxx. No g-suit and stock hydraulics. F-86-F2 needs a kill + a couple ground kills. The 4,500 SL that is free for playing in the match for 3 mins does help though.
@@f-j-Services most jets aren't for profit at all. It's better to just relax and farm silver on a nice prem, like D13.
its no good being alive with zero kills when the rest of the team crumbled around you, Whoop here is advocating for one thing that gets him to face 1v6 most often - guys that get shot down without a kill which someone having enemy on his 6 while already engaged is more than likely outcome
there were a lot of times where i KNEW i had several enemies on my tail while trying to finish an enemy (followed by "hit" hit" hit" usually) and still focused on finishing the target ... if i have 2 or more enemies behind me im done for, at best i might force them to dump ammo and energy to get me but as im 9 out of 10 matches in uptier there is basically no point in trying to save your ass in that situation ... all you are going to do is die anyway but throw away the chance of at least scoring one kill
*me, vibing in my spitfires:*
Interesting
Me, in my Yak-1
me in my yak 9t: why did they take the yak 3 and put a jet engine on it
Thiago
The Yak-1 is extremely good in my opinion, one of my favorite early planes
Props are a bit more fun anyway
Im digging the movie screen looking videos. Looks nice
21:9 is the way of the future :-).
This might not only be applicable to jets, but most are also applicable to props.
Also my take on climbing, climb to combat altitude, unless an enemy appears. If that happens, accelerate to combat speed.
Yes, you're very correct.... And this is something that I plan on covering in a future vid
@@WhooptieDo Quick side note: Climbing is not wrong, according to Adam's research.
But as you pointed out going into combat with no speed and only altitude isn't right.
@@martijn9568 If you're climbing at your best climb speed, this should not be a problem because you're also at your best accelerating speed. Also if you expand the "oh shit I've started an engagement" threshold from the usual 2km or so to 5km+ then there's more than enough time to build up a healthy combat speed
Keeping cool and not hard evading everyone who might look at you for 0.2 sec takes time and experience to get the hang of, but it ties into situational awareness, and keeps you alive in the long run. I think getting the hang of that and managing my energy was probably the turning point in my jet game
Which is why if you have skipped early jets and grinded to the top jets, one should go back and master them. Going back to the 262 and F-80 from the cannon Sabre helped my jet game a huge amount. Energy management is hugely important.
ZB not even gonna lie, f80 is one of the best American jets in game. F84 is very good too. But I do agree though, you need to master those jets before you master a Sabre.
Thx for making this video really.
i had bought the Swift(my first jet) and i just kept losing matches, kept dying and losing money, but after watching this and applied it to my gameplay the improvement was so major, i went from not making any kills and just die to making 3 kills per match and win.Keep it up with the videos.
Glad it helped dude. Thanks
5 things your doing wrong with jets:
1 - playing jets
2 - playing jets
3 - playing jets
4 - playing jets
5 - playing arcade jets
What's your point?
Ive been playing for years, im terrible at jets, thanks for the videos, subbed. Tanks is my thing.
Thanks!
Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. Although, I suck at 10.3 tanks. 9.0 best BR for modern tanks imo.
Tanks don't fly that well, no matter how hard I try. I just can't get into them.
WhooptieDo One of my friends managed to RAM my airborn OS2U with his R3 T20. We sent it to thundershow, but no luck.
I've started playing jet with France (not the best I know ) I've seen ur 2 videos abouts head on and C key , thx you for all the good advice , helped a lot ! keep the good work , I'm actually using the super Mystere with the AA nord missile and thx too you I get 1 or 2 kills every games , thx a lot ! need giving advice like that u are helping the community at your level !
Thanks bud, glad they're helping you.
The one thing your doing wrong is actually playing top tier at all. Play mid and low tiers its much more fun im telling you this from experience
It doesn't matter what tier you're at. People do this at every rank.
5 Things You're Probably Doing Wrong in Jets
Number 1: You play Jets
Number 2:Lol u can't aim
Number 3: premium jets
Why does every youtuber think extremely long and LOUD intro music is required?
Despite that, the video was basic but informative, I've gone from props to 10.3 instantly, my friend insisted that he gift me the F-5C so i could "Suffer as he suffers" and I was struggling to do anything but die. This advice helped a little. So thanks.
You might wanna consider turning your volume down then.
@@WhooptieDo I had to turn it down for the music, then back up for your voice, That indicates a audio balance issue not a volume setting issue. It's not a dig at you personally, it's a general pet peeve of mine when the video starts with a loud intro and then gets quiet to the point i have to increase volume to hear it. Take it how you like personal opinions are like A**holes everyone has them, i just say mine out loud. Not trying to grind your gears or anything and i hope you didn't take it that way.
You really should have more subscribers! Keep up the great work
Thank you! Getting there.
So basically :
1. You're not a propellor plane.
2. Du bist kein Propellorflugzeug
3. Angery German ranting
This is the pain of flying solo instead of squads
Thank you, bobross ultrawide guy!
Thank you, humble UA-cam citizen!!!
"A jet with no speed is a dead jet."
Great video and knowledge bro. Thanks
The one problem i have with the first one is that every head on, if the enemy breaks off or doesn't commit to it fully, i can just shoot them as they turn, most of my head on kills are people trying to turn away during a head on.
-"when you're in a bomber with guns, someone tries to intercept you, you go full head on, he tries to turn away and still you kill him."
:D
Thanks for a video. And youv earned a sub. Watched a few other of your videos its good to see a pilot with some actual skill... I do headons at 1.8 i fire in 3 burts and at 1.1-1.2 depending on closing speed i break off and do a rolling reversal normally ending in a split s to get on thier tail.
This helped me a lot Thank you. Please bring more tips on jet gameplay.
recently discovered this game and absolutely loved it. it´s a fun "battle royale" thing but on a realistic scenario. still on 2 level planes (YAK1 and MIG3) and enjoy the "everybody shoots everybody" dogfight. except with the Nimrod damm this plane is slow you should thank God if you hit somebody. fight against an I-15 or a YAK1 is asking to be killed
It's not battle royal it's supposed to be about team work between two opposite teams but people just split up and rarely help each other
Thanks for the guide, done me a lot of good when flying jets.
Thanks this helped a lot
"It's not a carrier plane"
The wing: *NAVY*
Very nice video, as a new player to RB I'm glad you did this I learned alot !!
All fun and games until an I15 comes.
Because of this summer sale I thought in my infinate wisdom, to buy a jet even though I've never played one before. I've watched plenty of jet videos and did a few test flights to get some of the basics, and the first game I saw it all.
Players climbing like props, people focusing one target and leaving themselves on low energy states, people going into headons at every opportunity.
2nd game I played I almost had an ace, but the last guy crashed himself rather than die to my missle. That same game 3 of my team were in props including a pshooter.
And I'll say this, fighting in jets speed is indeed life, in a down tier or even slight uptier the only advantage I really have is quantity of missles and my planes maneuverability, (guess what I bought lmao) but an uptier i feel so helpless due to supersonic aircraft everywhere, I cant run, and I'm outgunned, it's very frustrating having just taken off and an f104 is already on my ass
Thank you!
I want to speak about those and many other Problems for long time. Tried to do it with different War Thunder UA-camrs, but they decline to speak/make content about this kind of Topics for whatever reasons.
Games consist of roughly two Systems: The Creators and the Customers/ Players.
If the Creators do not want to change some stuff for better gameplay it is up for the Community of Players to change some things to improve the gameplay.
Overall more intelligent and social behaviour but also many other things.
Every individual Person needs to make our Environment better because thinking that others might do that is the biggest mistake.
Maybe we can talk via Ts/Discord some day ;)
Keep it on with the improvements!
Keep the good vids coming
Tip from me: It's better to stay alive with 2-3 assists then die with 1 kill. This same 5 mistake list is present in US prop planes.
I like that mentality. If only more people would adopt that.
There's only one thing more frustrating than when I fly my phantom to 30k ft, just to see my entire team trying to turn fight on the deck (If you want to turn fight fly mustangs, 109s, and spits.), and that is when I come up behind an enemy chasing a friendly... I'm lined up perfectly going mach1.3.... 2mi out.... friendly does a 180 turn towards me.... enemy follows him into a sharp turn and my shot is ruined, forcing me to pull off and sacrifice all my energy if I decide to turn around and try again. I've baited so many people just by turning away from my team mate so that they could get on the enemy 6 and save my butt. It's not that hard because like he said, most players get tunnel vision on the one dude they're following. Help me help you and turn away from me, not in to me.
I appreciate this video, ive only just reached near top tier for aircraft, but am still not the best pilot. Ground battles are my expertise, but with this I can hopefully be better for both myself, and my team
Just got the panther, and between missiles and uptiers I need to get better. Thanks for the tips.
thanks for making good informative videos, good quality, and not having an annoying / overly loud voice
really is unique these days ;)
Thanks. I'm overly critical of myself so I'm trying!
thanks for the vid mate.i subbed.
Your intros are the best man, so epic!
Number 1: playing jets.
I just got my first jet and this is super helpful thanks :)
Man, I have the Mig9 and Mig15 and I flew for myself, got a kill and died, but since I watched this video I end top score with 3 kills or so. Keep it up with yhe great content
Hello from Belgium
a big thank you for the work done in your videos.
continue like that.
Whooptie, I have nothing but respect for you, but I will keep doing “full commit” headons. I know how to do head ons, and when I pull off I always get hit. I’ve taken a Narval in a headon in a 162, and I wasn’t scared, and I came out undamaged. I can do head ons good, reliably.
Amazing video, I will show everyone I know.
😳
Just wanted to say Im a fairly new player played on and off for a year barely just now getting into low tier jets 6.7 same wiht tanks and your videos help immensely
Thanks bud! Glad they are helping you out!
@@WhooptieDo They are I know guys like you dont hear but what you do does help new players be slightly less ass
1:15 people dont realise that if they prioritise the team over yourself then you'll likely maximise the chance of winning because you can apply your resources elsewhere, and you get huge bonuses to rp and sl for wins. If you're desperate near the end of a winning match for points then kill AI.
Also, headons are a valid tactic. The problem is just full commit. I use headons reliably to merge people who beeline towards me without thinking about positioning - makes sure we're on the same energy level and altitude, and means that they can't slot into me by merging with me on my side. It's easy to dodge headons by kicking the rudder and pitching sideways and then rolling under the guns of the enemy - they cant rapidly pitch down to get you. You also get a chance to get a cheeky pilotsnipe or damaging their engine in props which massively hurts their endurance.
I got my first jet after 4 years. I play this game since 2014. Gotta say, my first impression was "oh man, is this jet battle?" Not very satisfied. The player always either die in a headon or crash to the ground or collide eachother. Rare cases was, being team killed by a missile. And uh, my first jet was Me 163 B (MK108 ver) and at 8.0, this thing is hard to play. Idk maybe im not experienced enough or it just not fit in a "jet" battle, since the plane wasnt even a jet powered.
really good videos man. my favourite jet is the f9f-8.
this really helped me a lot as a new jet player
Just what I needed
The problem is: even if you stay alive and help your team, you don't get many RP and SL, only if you get kills you get RP and SL
You get a decent amount of earnings for assists still. Activity goes a long ways too. As long as you're within 1.5km (guesstimate on the range) of an enemy, you accrue points
Thank you
I feel like new players dont know how to open up the game, like they dont know what to do. Should they rush? should they camp? should they just climb and hope for the best? these players need these kinds of videos.
hey man, I was wondering if you could make the enemy color different (maybe red or yellow, something that contrasts the blue well) during replays? I'm colorblind and it's very difficult to tell the difference.
Ur video give True advices but its easier to say "hey, play better !" when u fly a hunter or g91
Luv this tutorial ta bro
the reason why so many players do all of this is simple : jet matches usually last for not more than a few mins at max. sometimes the match is already over when the first enemy blobs hit each other. by then youre pretty much done if you re not flying a top tier aircraft. as an example the g91 in the german tech tree has no hope of ever winning any fight on its own. youre doomed without missiles to fight things like the lightning. youll get constant uptier. everyones faster than you and you cant really outturn anyone too. your retention is shit and then your only chance as a player new to jets is try to pop a few shots in headons and pull off. some commit too much because they know its probably their only chance to net some xp. people wont care about repcosts unless they fly a prop like the ta 152 or sth like that. its the god damn perma uptiers the useless aircraft and the game itself that seems to force people into doing such things. 9/10 games i play in the g91 are like that. you try to pop some shots in the headon watch your team getting slaughtered and then youre doomed to fly defensively for the rest and maybe just MAYBE someone is stupid enough to give you a reverse. even aircraft that are not bad by any means like the mig 15 bis have a big problem of facing constant uptiers not beeing able to play by their strengths and forced to watch their team getting slaughtered. so i can completely understand that some people just want a few xp points wich is the most important thing on jets. noone will care about the silver lions.
people dont learn the strengths of their aircraft because theres literally 0 reason to do so in most matches.
another problem is that the lowtier jets especially on the german side are a gamble. the me 262 is kinda ok the 163 is a pile of dogshit because everyone knows that youre running out of fuel soon so how should you learn anything if youre not having at least a small piece of light at the end of the tunnel.
so you grind your way to the "more useful" ones like the mig 15 only to realize that by doing that you completely lack the knowledge on how to fight in this thing and even if you know how to you realize that in the end youre aggain prey to other jets that are simply better in every stat than you.....
if they fixed the br issues you might wait longer for a game if only certain jets would be allowed to fight each other but in the end the playerbase would learn MUCH more slowly climbing their way up the ladder instead of skipping and then getting rekt aggain.
for me i stopped playing jets at the g91 and the mig 15 as i dont find it pleasent to face constant uptiers when the difference between the tiers is SO MUCH bigger than on props while you also need so much xp for even the dumbest and most necessary eq.
i enjoy flying high tier props like the ta much more than the jet madness and pretty much everyone i know thinks about this the same regardless of having high tier jets like the mig 21.
I'd like to add two things people shouldn't do in top tier matches.
1. Last second head-ons, because most of the time it's not much different than regular full commit head-on. Really annoying move and not really worth executing, but a lot of people do it.
2. (This one had to be here) Taking props into jet matches, because why not weaken the team just because two or three guys want to have fun.
This current meta is exactly why I like flying the swift f7 so much. It pretty much destroys anyone with no experience.
Head-on? Try a fire streak missile from 4km away. If that misses enjoy the 2 Adens then (and obviously still pull off in time)
Climbing? Did you say climbing? Well if anything climbs well it's this. I love getting someone on my tail and then showing them the power of that after burner. Only the f5 outclimbs it but you can stay out of that ones sights pretty easily and when you get to stall speeds you turn better
Those cannons also make really quick work of anything that's going slow. In the meantime you can easily maintain well over 1000kmh i love it
It's a great plane for sure!
When the intro music played I thought that my Spotify was playing lmao
I feel that out all of the points you made, prolonged turnfighting in jets is something people like to do the most. But hey, free kills for me.
It happens on every battle rating just like I killed a fw200 on br 2.7 and it wasn't fully dead but falling to the ground and everyone just dove on it instead of attacking working planes just so they would get that kill
In 8.0 jets I tend to accelerate up to about 700kph and then sideclimb in a 10° angle, it gets me a decent amount of altitude for not a lot of speed lost
Top 1 thing people do wrong: Not killing the enemy I'm trying to bait for them in favor of diving after a burning flat spinning missing-half-a-wing phantom.
This too, goes right along with what I was talking about with selfish players not caring about their team.
first thing that hit me was nostalgia from that music. Damn.
thanks you that help me so not be too focus and don't loose dumbly energie because engine don't accelerate in the blink of an eye :/ well i have a lot to learn from jet
Exactly. I FIND MYSELF THE ONLY ONE IN THE MATCH TEAM PLAYING and side climbing. Not to mention the kill stealing. Lately I’ve found myself to be either being chased down by the entire enemy team when the match starts because my whole team side climbed for no apparent reason or I’m the last man standing because I chose not to commit myself into being trapped.
how do you make your indicator green? i have not found the option to do that on an aircraft :(
“Don’t dive on your enemy”
*proceeds to dive on enemy*
The number of Hunter F.GA 9s that have stupidly fixated and blown all of their energy trying to outmaneuver my F-86F-2 is beyond belief.
That 1# was pretty good. I once had a p51 that head on me in a fw190. Which is a very bad idea right off the bat. But, this dude did FULL head on. But, he only did minor damage. Soo, he got blown apart. He just flew right into my bullets. Not jets, but, I think full Head ons is always bad.
Great video 👍
The problem I'm finding is that unlike props, because of the BR compression there is 0 learning curve... Immediately you're thrust into games vs higher tier jets who are all faster than you and have missiles especially the op premium ones. So there's very little opportunity for improvement.
What would be a good gun convergence for a newbie in jets using a F-86F - 35 (my first jet)?
whooptie: its better to stay alive but do no kills than to be bead but have 1 kill
me: has no kills and is also dead
Its best to climb at about mach .8, just as you hit transonic drag rather than pushing it to 1000kph.
How do I change the hud colors? I can't see blue all that well so I never know who is friendly and who I need to panic about
God thank you for making a video about this. I suck at jets so much.
I find the best thing number 2 is go in a test flight and find you angle of climb.
For me the tunnel vision part is just the awareness skill doesn’t spot them then they appear like last second I use c key a lot. It just sucks tho cause I haven’t played the game in a awhile and going against jets that out perform u a lot rly is tough especially the AAMs
the AAMs like the aim9s its more of forcing your enemy to evade more than it actually making contact usually it only makes contact if they're afk or just not paying any attention
Right before i played the g91 r3 i basically only played the do335b.
And really all i had to do was take a similar mentality to the d0335b playstyle and apply it to the g91.
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Keep your speed up because your acceleration isnt as good as any of the other planes.
Dont do vertical turns because youll bleed too much speed.
Dont commit to head ons because even slight damage can make merely flying a chore.
Dont dive because you compress like a mofo.
Climb at a rate where your still gaining speed.
Dont spray and pray.
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Im not a good jet pilot but at least i know the basics.
Vertical turns are for sure a big no no in G91. You sound like you grinded your way to jets, which is the way it should be. Despite it being long and painful at times, the problems arise from the players who bought their way into jets.
lol everything he said i was doing actually thx for the tips.
Ty man for Hands now im go play good mach
I think everyone would benefit from more training material in the game; not just basic tutorials that only teach you keybindings, but tutorials that are essentially just missions. You only get better at something like this by doing it over and over, and if new players had access to repeatable single player missions that worked on established principles in the game and in real life, they could more quickly understand the basic functions and theory of the game.
I just grinded up the bomber line in ussr now i got it i can finish off tier 4
One thing people do wrong is get the F-86-A5 sabre thinking they're going to have fun with it.
but it IS fun, and honestly if anything its more forgiving to the noobish players than the other sabres, because of its turn rate since those players will always turn with just about anything
I just started playing this game so im a tier 2 plane
You got a long hard journey ahead my friend
I started when corona closed school in March and now I’m at low tier jets
@@matthewthomas7160 Which nation?
USA aircraft
Play props AND don’t buy a premium jet until you have a 1.0KD
oooor, just dont buy any premium until you spade your first jet. (not considerint those 6.7 baby jets)
TBH this is pointless advice. As frankly prop experience doesn't really amount to much in high tier jets.
Full comit head on's in a saber or mig is a kill for your team
I need help with this
I will go to the middle left of the map where everyone is shoot 1 middle and then all of a sudden I have no team near me and 7 enemies chasing me how do I fix this
Here is another tip if your in a 2v2 dog fight and you kill one dont leave your buddies to go land and re arm and re fuel if you have a fully functional aircraft, even if your out of ammo the enemy does not know that help your teammate get that last kill by either baiting your buddy to get that last kill or ram the sob on the enemy team to get the win
jokes on you, I don't have jets unlocked yet
Actually much appreciated tbh, because the problem comes mostly from the people that buy their way into jets without learning how to fly them first.
Which of the German jets are worth playing or worth avoiding in the normal tech tree? Just want to know since I’m mainly a tanker and don’t play aircraft that well and just want a jet which works well...
probably go for russia because of the migs theyre very good
This was helpful. I prefer jets over props and it just sucks that the first ranks don't set you up for jet combat.
you forget to mention to sideclimb early jets...262s are all dead in minute because they have no speed and no energy, yelling on me if im going to join fight, leaving me last plane almost every game