@@hafidz007You guys always say this dumb shit as if it’s the surgeon’s fault and they’re purposely pushing you away. Then in the same sentence you talk about “government hospital” and are still to stupid to figure out who to blame.
I love my surgeon. He was the only one that believed something was wrong with me so he took it upon his own to perform exploratory surgery and found my gallbladder was intrahepatic. Deformed completely since I was a child. Instead of the gallbladder descending down normally, it never fell during the stages of gestation- - inside my liver the entire time. Had such a hate against all these ‘specialists’ telling me nothing was wrong. Gallbladder was necrotic and had adhesions all over my liver. He stood up 6 hours for me. Thank you Dr Irfan if you ever read this. 20+ years of awful nausea completely gone and eating everything and anything
@@ndibunwachinonso6593 thank you. It was horrible. I had such a miserable life the entire time. Barely understanding what it is like to live happy now. Crazy
I am a cancer survivor and had full Hysterectomy surgery for nearly 3 hours. Thanks to all Doctors and Nurses who took good care of me before and after surgery in 2021. I am forever grateful to Doctor Haslan and his team.
Nobody is right 100% of the time. Every single surgeon has made a mistake. They have to be confident or they couldn’t bring themselves to perform surgery. Can you imagine the attitude it takes to cut into people every single day?? No thank you!! But I’m glad they do it!
Honestly if they realize they are wrong you want them to know and fix it asap. Doctors are human too. It’s important that they know, learn, and fix their mistakes.
And its the surgical tech that makes sure you have everything you could possibly need open, ready and sterile for your surgery…including the surgeon sometimes 🤦♀️ lord only knows where they vanish off to
Surgeons go through a lot more training before becoming attendings. They also work more between rounds, consults and of course operations. They’re respected more than anesthesiologists for a reason
Dr. Kim isn’t kidding- he is extremely confident in his wrongness. Wanted to give me injections when I had no disc left . Went to Germany and had ADR, can still walk, thank goodness. Thanks, Germany!
I acknowledge all in healthcare, from the docs to those who make our food and clean our rooms! I learn their names and address them as such. You never know the difference you can make in someone’s day by simply acknowledging them.
The surgeon that operated on me definately was wrong but never in doubt. She ruined my body, and my life. The "never in doubt" thing is definately wrong. It's very destructive.
@@creepypastashinigami I completely respect that… I just don’t trust any doctor or surgeon or anyone like that as a disabled person. Healthcare hates us.
We are sterile processing techs, We supply the surgeon with the sterile tools they need to perform surgery. We also make sure the tools work properly before the surgeon uses it.
“All bleeding eventually stops.” This dose not depend on success. If you fail the bleeding stops. If you succeed the bleeding stops. This might possibly be the most metal way of saying you win some you loose some.
To my beautiful surgeon that removed my gallbladder doing a hour longer surgery so you could remove it arthroscopic for a better recovery time. You are a queen.
We're doctors. We are owned by healthcare corporations the way professional athletes are owned by teams, but we don't get the pay and benefits we deserve.
I just had my tricuspid heart valve replaced. Thank you to all the drs and surgeons .The first hospital I went to put me on hospice and we’re gonna let me die. I’m 26yo
@@No-xh2cs no it was caused from me injecting fentanyl and meth with dirty needles.. shits ruined my life I’m 26 and since I had septic emboli in my lungs it’s so hard to breath. Also have septic arthritis in my hip and spine. I’m waiting to hear back from disability cause I definitely can’t do the work I was doing before all this happened.. I’m really worried that I’m not going to make it. The artificial heart valve they gave me is a pig heart valve and it only last about 10 years..
@@nofurtherwest3474if surgeons have to operate near the reproductive organs, they usually shave off the hair so that it’s easier to operate plus so that hair doesn’t fall during the operation (which would cause an infection). Think of it as how tattoo artists remove hair from the area ur tattooing so that it’s easier.
These people should not be overworked the way they are. It's bad for their health and dangerous for patients to have someone operating with no sleep for 24 hours.
You're surgeons. You fixed my crushed elbow. You successfully gave me a total hysterectomy. You repaired my hernia. Lastly, you reconstructed my rib cage after a serious injury accident. I'm functioning greatly these days. You're very skilled at what you do.
Im a cancer in remission 7 hour operation they took a 7 kilo tumor out which it was attached to my lefy kidney which they removed , my spleen and a large piece of pancreas, cut from my breast bone to almost my pubic bone in hospital for 11 days then returned for another 3 days cause i couldn't stop vomiting, had hundreds of inside stitches and 62 staples on the outside and 18 months before it healed , i lve in Australia had the best oncologist, doctors and nurses, i was a public patient and it cost me zero dollars , love our health system and love Australia, best country in the world with the best healthcare
We're nurses. And you know damn good and well y'all have never shaved a patient before surgery in your entire career. Edit: To the 15 surgeons losing their minds in the comments who have indeed once shaved a patient, forgive me for not stroking your ego. Y'all are too on brand.
@@prettygemini3432I guess it’s a stereotype on their egos or the kind of people who reach for that path. The unhealthy lifestyle probably doesn’t help either. Pressure and lack of sleep for years even before you even become a surgeon.
I have worked with surgeons for over 10 years. They work so hard to try and do the best for our patients. If someone is in need, we put their care over anything. I have seen senators, homeless folks, and a wide variety of regular people all get the same care. Yes, they make money. However, it takes an average of 15 years to become a surgeon after graduating high school. They have loans between $500,000 - $750,000 when they become an attending. Yeah, some are tough to work with, but some are awesome. However, having fun with a quick clip should not be a negative. It's a nice minute of fun in a very difficult field.
Oh sorry to hear that surgeons dont do the work before and after surgery too. They should do all the surgery related work so nurses can only do canula and drips
Sardonic sympathy isn’t warranted; simply stating a fact. Oh… Teaching prior to and after surgery, wound care, and coordinating interdisciplinary care encompasses more than drips and cannulas. Surely you haven’t been in the medical field long enough to have witnessed this?
Yeah but you hold about 1% of the responsibility of the most IMPORTANT part which is the surgery. Have some respect for doctors, im so sick of seeing nurses comment so much sht when 90% of the time you guys are sitting at computers or "getting medication ready"@@Egonzales85
Sometimes bloody wrong with my ORIF operation which was performed by a trainee surgeon in Australia. No reduction was ever required. It was just a small crack. A cast would have been fine... I have learnt to NEVER TRUST ANY DOCTOR. EVER.
We're junior doctors,by the time we become surgeons we ..fall asleep anytime, anywhere (supply closets are my favourite!) learn that hospitals stand on nurses back's and creative time management, know that it's better to pee yourself than excuse yourself when your attending is giving impromptu lecture after closing , most of the time we don't remember how and when we got home most of the time and when but can recall every detail of your procedure 3 months later, especially if there were complications. Knowing what I know now, I have even more immense respect for veterans on the job. Especially women, with how toxic and hostile the environment can get in this part of the world.
@sweetbeep How do u know that? Are u a doctor? Do u understand human anatomy? No. U're just a commoner who decides to sh!t on a bunch of doctors coz u have nothing better to do. Next time someone gets an appendicitis in ur family, tell them to deal with the pain
We're surgeons, but your insurance doesn't cover that.
😂😂😂
lol so true
we are american healthcare system.
We surgeons we care u til your insurance is declined or you run of money. Then we will push you to any available governmeny hospital that we have
@@hafidz007You guys always say this dumb shit as if it’s the surgeon’s fault and they’re purposely pushing you away. Then in the same sentence you talk about “government hospital” and are still to stupid to figure out who to blame.
We are anesthesiologists, we give people more quality SLEEP than the sleep we get in our entire career.
That is true- I always tell people the best sleep I’ve ever had was when I had surgeries.
You are in therapy because people just sleep on you 😂
Its not quality sleep, the body doesn't get rest under anesthesia because of the lack of REM sleep
As an anesthesiologist you should know this after spending 4 years in med school and 4 years training
No you’re not
I don't like the thought of my surgeon being sleep deprived
And dehydrated
Chill, they are trained
Nor dehydrated
We're radiologists. We see EVERYTHING.
Superman typa shit😂
And we need a ton of sleep
That x ray vision
*"I FEEL EVERYTHING! I KNOW EVERYTHING!"* - Drunk Scottish Cyclops
DO YOU SEE DEAD PEOPLE
All bleeding will stop, either the blood coagulates, or there is no more blood.
😩😩😭😭 You’re right!
Exactly 😆
you dont say. im sure youre the only one who got it!
We all die from the same thing. A complete loss of homeostasis ☺️
Hopefully it's because the blood coagulates😅😅
The last surgeon had me rolling. I wonder how long he had been waiting for the opportunity to say "we're more sterile than a neutered dog." 😂😂😂
Not that long. He jumped right on board. 😂
Anyway , what's that even mean ? Care to explain?
sterilizing a dog is taking away there balls so they can even get horny or reproduce... so its called sterile
@@Rizzays
He's got that boomer sense of humor 😂😂😅
Animals should not be neutered
You are surgeons, we can’t thank you enough.
to the nice surgeons....
You re right. They literally save our lives. God help them all🙏
We are non-surgeons who hope and pray that we never need a surgeon but are very grateful and thankful that you are there when we do.
Amen
The neutered dog got me 😆😆😆
That one is gold 🥇
Took me a minute 🤣
Lol
Same 🤣
I love my surgeon. He was the only one that believed something was wrong with me so he took it upon his own to perform exploratory surgery and found my gallbladder was intrahepatic. Deformed completely since I was a child. Instead of the gallbladder descending down normally, it never fell during the stages of gestation- - inside my liver the entire time. Had such a hate against all these ‘specialists’ telling me nothing was wrong. Gallbladder was necrotic and had adhesions all over my liver. He stood up 6 hours for me. Thank you Dr Irfan if you ever read this. 20+ years of awful nausea completely gone and eating everything and anything
Wow. God bless you and God bless him
@@ndibunwachinonso6593 thank you. It was horrible. I had such a miserable life the entire time. Barely understanding what it is like to live happy now. Crazy
They should have been able to see on Ultrasound that you did not have a visible gallbladder... not that difficult to see.
@@sandrachebo they lied to me. The HIDA scan was the only procedure that did detect an issue. 0% function
Wow how do they not see this on CT scans
I am a cancer survivor and had full Hysterectomy surgery for nearly 3 hours.
Thanks to all Doctors and Nurses who took good care of me before and after surgery in 2021.
I am forever grateful to Doctor Haslan and his team.
How much did it cost?
@@ugwemuhwemosas7884
In Malaysia, it costs me RM9,000+ (about USD2,000)
Praise God you're doing better now
Amen thanking God for their dedication and Skills ..high respect 🙏 🤲
@ugwemuhwemosas7884
You don't need this information.
May God continue to bless all health care professionals, it’s not an easy job!
Those men look and sound exactly like what I imagine an experienced surgeon looks and sounds like. 😂
Much respect for you guys coming from a nurse. Standing for hours operating on a patient is no jokes
Much respect for the nurses for being nice to new interns
I dont want my surgeon to be wrong and confident about it
Nobody is right 100% of the time. Every single surgeon has made a mistake. They have to be confident or they couldn’t bring themselves to perform surgery. Can you imagine the attitude it takes to cut into people every single day?? No thank you!! But I’m glad they do it!
@@EllenPitts Yes, Ellen. I have had that same thought.
Ha ha you wouldn't know the amount of things happening in surgery
Yeah but I also don't want my surgeon to just stand there and not know what to do
Honestly if they realize they are wrong you want them to know and fix it asap. Doctors are human too. It’s important that they know, learn, and fix their mistakes.
we’re patients ,and thank God for ALL Doctors and Nurses ❤
Not all. Some are really nasty and have no place being in the medical field 😑
Amen to that
❤
Totally agree 🎉
It's the anesthesiologist that keeps you alive. Give those men and women the respect they deserve as well
And its the surgical tech that makes sure you have everything you could possibly need open, ready and sterile for your surgery…including the surgeon sometimes 🤦♀️ lord only knows where they vanish off to
Surgeons go through a lot more training before becoming attendings. They also work more between rounds, consults and of course operations. They’re respected more than anesthesiologists for a reason
@@Fritolay72 oh I am not minimizing surgeons at all. They do God's work and save countless lives. I'm just pointing out the anesthesiologists role.
There is no surgery without Anesthesia 😮
We’re surgeons, your insurance isn’t gonna cover all that, but we’re still getting paid.
Dr. Kim isn’t kidding- he is extremely confident in his wrongness. Wanted to give me injections when I had no disc left . Went to Germany and had ADR, can still walk, thank goodness.
Thanks, Germany!
Thank you SURGEONS!!❤️😘🇺🇸
We are grateful to have you ❤ stay well
They just talk smarter than I even think, and that’s the best way I can explain it
salute to all medical workers.
Thank you for saying all, Im a surgical tech and we hardly ever if ever get any praise, its always the nurses and doctors.
I acknowledge all in healthcare, from the docs to those who make our food and clean our rooms! I learn their names and address them as such. You never know the difference you can make in someone’s day by simply acknowledging them.
The surgeon that operated on me definately was wrong but never in doubt. She ruined my body, and my life. The "never in doubt" thing is definately wrong. It's very destructive.
"We're surgeons...when in doubt, cut it out"
Definitely
We’re patients… and this video scares us 🥲
Hey Im a surgical tech we’re basically the surgeon baby sitter its ok yall are gonna be just fine.
@@creepypastashinigami I completely respect that… I just don’t trust any doctor or surgeon or anyone like that as a disabled person. Healthcare hates us.
I wondered if anyone else was disturbed by this video. As someone who weekly reads about errors in medical charts, I am not confident!
We are sterile processing techs,
We supply the surgeon with the sterile tools they need to perform surgery. We also make sure the tools work properly before the surgeon uses it.
Thank you, I was impatience and the Doctor told me, the room has to be clean
The bleeding always eventually stops. Whether you're alive or dead is another question.
I always wash my hands like I'm gonna do surgery.
I thought the first guy said “We’re surgeons, sometimes wrong but never in debt.”
“All bleeding eventually stops.” This dose not depend on success. If you fail the bleeding stops. If you succeed the bleeding stops. This might possibly be the most metal way of saying you win some you loose some.
It's a joke, it's not a genuine ideology
no shit.
OH I THOUGHT THIS SAID "MENTAL" WAY LOL
There's a limited amount of blood.
It'll
Stop
Eventually.
Lose* not loose
We’re surgeons, we take out gallbladders so that we can go on vacation
To my beautiful surgeon that removed my gallbladder doing a hour longer surgery so you could remove it arthroscopic for a better recovery time. You are a queen.
You're surgeons, thank you for saving lives.
❤❤❤
It's their job. Why are doctors the only ones who are thanked for doing their job, I wonder?
@@arnaupuig5097 Maybe because it is the most important job, but it is still the teachers who teach these doctors.
We're doctors. We are owned by healthcare corporations the way professional athletes are owned by teams, but we don't get the pay and benefits we deserve.
😮deep truth here😮
God’s blessings be onto all sergeants and all other medical staff. Amen 🙏🏽
It's hard to find a humble surgeon.
We also thank God for the knowledge he gives them
That part
I just had my tricuspid heart valve replaced. Thank you to all the drs and surgeons .The first hospital I went to put me on hospice and we’re gonna let me die. I’m 26yo
I hope u are fine now
I’m now 27 had my tricuspid replaced at 25 the first hospital I went to was also gonna let me die
GOD IS WITH U AND ONLY HE HAS THE LAST WORD ALWAYS ❤
That's so scary, did they think it was caused by your teeth?
@@No-xh2cs no it was caused from me injecting fentanyl and meth with dirty needles.. shits ruined my life I’m 26 and since I had septic emboli in my lungs it’s so hard to breath. Also have septic arthritis in my hip and spine. I’m waiting to hear back from disability cause I definitely can’t do the work I was doing before all this happened.. I’m really worried that I’m not going to make it. The artificial heart valve they gave me is a pig heart valve and it only last about 10 years..
We're sometimes wrong, but never in doubt! 😂
Which is just as bad 😂😂😂
Yeah idk if that’s a good thing
@@nofurtherwest3474it’s not. I’m so disturbed by this.
#Confidentlyincorrect
@@Mrs.LadeyBugI think its a reference to the stereotype that all surgeons are jerks
Thank you for your hard work saving lives. 🙏🌺
Thank goodness for surgeons, I’d be dead today if it weren’t for them…thank you surgeons!👍👏👏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
love how calm they all are. their voices will all put me to sleep. cant wait to be a surgeon myself and have that effect on people hahah
just be understanding of patient concerns... It does help a lot for patients even if you think the question/concerns are silly..
BAHAHAHAHA. THE MANSCAPING BEING COMPLIMENTARY GOT ME DYING AHAHAHAHA
What does it mean
@@nofurtherwest3474For certain surgeries they need to shave your 'man parts' 😉. Like trimming in landscaping... manscaping 😊
@@nofurtherwest3474if surgeons have to operate near the reproductive organs, they usually shave off the hair so that it’s easier to operate plus so that hair doesn’t fall during the operation (which would cause an infection). Think of it as how tattoo artists remove hair from the area ur tattooing so that it’s easier.
@@nofurtherwest3474 manscaping is like landscaping but for men. Could refer to anywhere on the body but often down low 😅
@@nofurtherwest3474I believe if you’re getting a surgery down(in or near the pubic region) there, they have to remove all pubic hair
I always hope my surgeon has had a good night's sleep!
they mean that some surgeries take 20+ hours so they don't really get to rest during the operation.
He's definitely gonna take some vyvsnse if not
These people should not be overworked the way they are. It's bad for their health and dangerous for patients to have someone operating with no sleep for 24 hours.
They really are so over worked
Thank you to all the talented surgeons!
You're surgeons. You fixed my crushed elbow. You successfully gave me a total hysterectomy. You repaired my hernia. Lastly, you reconstructed my rib cage after a serious injury accident. I'm functioning greatly these days. You're very skilled at what you do.
"Sometimes wrong but never in doubt" scares the Hell out of me and I've had 12+ operations.
.
We're surgeons. We have a strange sense of humor.
We’re surgeons. Any opportunity to operate 👍🏽
Were surgeons, entitled to the max
You bury your mistakes in the ground. My failures as an engineer affects many more people at once.
Im a cancer in remission 7 hour operation they took a 7 kilo tumor out which it was attached to my lefy kidney which they removed , my spleen and a large piece of pancreas, cut from my breast bone to almost my pubic bone in hospital for 11 days then returned for another 3 days cause i couldn't stop vomiting, had hundreds of inside stitches and 62 staples on the outside and 18 months before it healed , i lve in Australia had the best oncologist, doctors and nurses, i was a public patient and it cost me zero dollars , love our health system and love Australia, best country in the world with the best healthcare
We’re surgeons we treat our colleagues like shit cos we’re actually very narcissistic
Glad to see sturgeons still coming up with mottos
We're nurses. And you know damn good and well y'all have never shaved a patient before surgery in your entire career.
Edit: To the 15 surgeons losing their minds in the comments who have indeed once shaved a patient, forgive me for not stroking your ego. Y'all are too on brand.
Why do you say that?
Yes, they do. You're just thinking about intimate areas. They have to sometimes shave body hair.
@@positivepessimist6853they mean that the surgeons don’t shave them, they leave it for the nurses to do
@@jennas6000 I've had a surgeon shave the area himself he was going to work on. It was in their office but it happens.
Exactly. 😂
Thank you for all that you do🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
We’re surgeons. We fix you for $69,420 which is very cheap.
Last one sounds like Dr Sturgis From young sheldon 😅
Unfortunately the quality of treatment have declined no one wants to address it openly
We are internal medicine doctors the most forgotten in the family we’re basically the middle child!
excellent 👍
I liked the way this short has been structured to deliver a multiple quick meaningful messages
😂😂😂”All bleeding eventually stops” ….whether you’re dead or alive!!😂😂😂😂
Congrats guys.
May god give you strength to save peoples lives.
Respect!!
We're surgeons. We likely are with a mental health disorder we hide poorly 😂
God you are spot on.
They are
That’s not just surgeons 😂
Why do you say that? It's just a branch of medicine they chose. How does that make you have a mental health disorder?
@@prettygemini3432I guess it’s a stereotype on their egos or the kind of people who reach for that path. The unhealthy lifestyle probably doesn’t help either. Pressure and lack of sleep for years even before you even become a surgeon.
You are a surgeon but I can't afford the high price charge by the Hospital. I love you all.
So grateful for all these life saving humans ❤️
The guy who fell alseep is me when im tired doing house work 😂
We're surgeons if we're wrong its not our fault thats why its called practice.
The last one was hilarious
“We’re surgeons, of course we are always late and don’t care” -former OR nurse
We're surgeons, we got bullied growing up.
God bless all of you😊
To all surgeons, thank you for what you do. My life was saved by a surgeon and I’ll always be thankful 🙏🏼
More power to you guys ❤
Love this video!!
we're surgeons, we bled people for 4000 years before realising it was bad.
You take what you have and do what you think is best at the time. Don't think you're clever here.
You sound like a surgeon. @@SnowWhite-ov9of
@SpongeBobImagination It was the scientific consensus.
We also pulled teeth n cut hair
We had no clue what we were doing at all
"Call for the leeches" was a popular saying in old movies ,now as a phlebotomist I see "blood letting" still happens...medically needed in some cases.
we’re surgeons we act confident but we’re shitting our pants in operations
"i am a surgeon"
-Surgeon boi
We are surgeons. We crack jokes about you when you are sleeping like a baby.
This is why there's medical malpractice insurance and lawyers.
Operating dehydrated is incredible 😂 I take my hat off to you sir
This is hilarious!!!
Were surgeons: of course we are gonna make fun of you during surgery.
This is the most wholesome video I’ve seen all day.
Thank you.
Thanks for saving lives
I have worked with surgeons for over 10 years. They work so hard to try and do the best for our patients. If someone is in need, we put their care over anything. I have seen senators, homeless folks, and a wide variety of regular people all get the same care. Yes, they make money. However, it takes an average of 15 years to become a surgeon after graduating high school. They have loans between $500,000 - $750,000 when they become an attending. Yeah, some are tough to work with, but some are awesome. However, having fun with a quick clip should not be a negative. It's a nice minute of fun in a very difficult field.
We are surgeons, we are doing surgeries because we are on call. Might as well
We are Nurses, we do “most “of the work before and after surgery… 🙄 (edited after people got butt hurt. )
@@85dontcare I’m good thanks.
@@85dontcareit’s *then. But also no.
Oh sorry to hear that surgeons dont do the work before and after surgery too. They should do all the surgery related work so nurses can only do canula and drips
Sardonic sympathy isn’t warranted; simply stating a fact.
Oh… Teaching prior to and after surgery, wound care, and coordinating interdisciplinary care encompasses more than drips and cannulas. Surely you haven’t been in the medical field long enough to have witnessed this?
Yeah but you hold about 1% of the responsibility of the most IMPORTANT part which is the surgery. Have some respect for doctors, im so sick of seeing nurses comment so much sht when 90% of the time you guys are sitting at computers or "getting medication ready"@@Egonzales85
When a mechanic fails to fix a broken machine, they don't get heckled compared to when a surgeon fails to fix a broken person.
Sometimes bloody wrong with my ORIF operation which was performed by a trainee surgeon in Australia.
No reduction was ever required. It was just a small crack. A cast would have been fine...
I have learnt to NEVER TRUST ANY DOCTOR. EVER.
God bless you always!😁🙏🏻
We're junior doctors,by the time we become surgeons we ..fall asleep anytime, anywhere (supply closets are my favourite!) learn that hospitals stand on nurses back's and creative time management, know that it's better to pee yourself than excuse yourself when your attending is giving impromptu lecture after closing , most of the time we don't remember how and when we got home most of the time and when but can recall every detail of your procedure 3 months later, especially if there were complications.
Knowing what I know now, I have even more immense respect for veterans on the job. Especially women, with how toxic and hostile the environment can get in this part of the world.
Nice to see real professionals have a sense of humor.
"Were surgeons" your money depends on if you live or not.
I can imagine the feeling of eating and sleeping after a 12 hour straight surgery
We are surgeons and our ego is enormous!
That's not true
They deserve the ego if they have one better than a kardashian or any other nonsensical person
I think it has to be or they could never do the job
Ginormous 😅
Ohh shut up
They’re surgeons, they forgot to say “of course” lol
We're surgeons. We only operate when we absolutely need the money.
Thank God for surgeon. Thank you.
You are surgeons, you take advantage of patients who think you know best.
What even-
@@tanvi9973 half of surgeries are unnecessary
@sweetbeep How do u know that? Are u a doctor? Do u understand human anatomy? No. U're just a commoner who decides to sh!t on a bunch of doctors coz u have nothing better to do. Next time someone gets an appendicitis in ur family, tell them to deal with the pain