You just set me up for my PhD educational funding track! I didn't know this existed. I used TA for some of my bachelors but didn't finish in service. I was gonna use my GI bill to finish up my Bachelors out of state and come back for my hazelwood act for the remainder of my educational goal. With this i can prob do my whole Phd where ever I want! Im so thankful, stay blessed.
Hi Nicolas! Are they covering the entire 4 years? I’ve been approved for trade schooling but I think I want to switch to a psychology program. Just curious..
DO NOT USE VRE FIRST. USE GI BILL FOR UNDERGRAD. USE VRE FOR GRADUATE DEGREE BUT THEN USE RETRO ACTIVE INDUCTION TO GET UR GI BILL MONTHS BACK. ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR GRAD DEGREE, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR WHOLE GI BILL IN POCKET.
@@sethmunoz4030 I'm currently in undergrad for engineering, I should be able to finish out my degree and still have a little bit of GI Bill left over. You're saying I could go to VR&E after graduation so they help with my masters instead? Interesting path as well
I just got a call from a VR&E counselor. I told her I'm currently using my GI Bill but she told me it would be better to use my VR&E first and save my GI Bill for later. Thankfully I can switch my GI Bill with the VR&E program. Thank you for this information.
@@shirajai very nice. Yes I had to research a lot of stuff and at the same time have to make plenty of doctor visits for some VA. Soaking up all this knowledge while i prepare to separate active duty
I have back problems that sometimes I can’t even walk. I just found about this program through my therapist! I’m 100 disabled . I’m so happy this program exist!
I have my first meeting with my VRE counselor tomorrow. SUPER crossing my fingers that he's chill and willing to work with me. I already have my undergrad, hoping to use the program for law school. This video was super helpful, thank you. Gonna go see if you posted that video about your experience with the program.
Awesome! Good luck! I appreciate that reminder. I'm in my last semester and haven't made that video yet. I'll have to prep that and get the video lined up.
My sister & I are both vets and we are trying out vre each way... she is using it as her first benefit whereas I am using it on the back end . Hope we can find some unforeseen pros & cons for others looking to maximize their educations. Thanks for the vid
Thanks for breaking this does Barney style. I really don’t even know what I want to do at this point but I’m glad I understand this program better as both me and my wife are trying to figure out using our VA benefits
We're all trying to figure it out. Get your hands in a little bit of everything and see what you like. You don't want to risk changing paths too many times and running out of benefits.
This…. SAME… I did it backwards started with GI bill. Dove into requesting VR&E a while back and was too overwhelmed when counselor contacted me I didn’t know if I was making right or wrong choice. I’m ready now to learn what VR&E exactly is
First and foremost, GREAT VIDEO! I'm attempting to use VR&E for the "Long-Term Service Track" seeking a career as a Pilot. I was directed to apply for these VA benefits 1st because Post 9/11 most likely won't cover all the expenses with a degree program, so here I am. I attained my Private Pilot License/Cert last month which I was told was a requirement for VR&E. My appointment with my VRC is scheduled for 30 November. I'll let you know how it goes. Any additional feedback or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
You can use this for flight lessons towards getting your ATP license to become a pilot in addition to $15k per year they cover for the lessons after your Private License.
Not too much, but my buddy is waiting to get his VR&E approved and I also spoke with a program that broke it down to me. Yeah man it would be awesome to chat!
Using mine on the back end. I would like to say I wish I understood how to use it when I first got out, but I wasn't ready. I have a really dope counselor so I'm sure I could convince him to let me get my masters when I'm finished 🤓😏
Wow this was by far the best explanation after viewing many others. I feel way more confident in what I know about this program now thanks to you. Can you take all online classes with this program? Thanks
VR&E sucks but it is best to use it during your undergraduate years since getting a masters through them is near impossible. Use your post 9/11 to get your masters and then do VET TECH AFTER!!
Damn this was a great vid bro, getting out soon for adjustment disorder which apparently is an general under honorable sep even though its a medical condition..this makes it iffy to het my GI bill i believe.. but thank God this program exists especially since i only want to go to trade school.. bless up 🙌🏽
I got out of the service and a few months later went to the VA in Orlando FL and they told me I was under the Veep program, and because I had contributed anything in, I would get nothing from them. When I went in the AF I was told that was under the Montgomery GI bill. I was so mad I have had nothing to do with the VA for years but now thanks to suffering from an severe concussion while in the service I will be going back and filing an disability, but I asked and was told that "I WAS under the Montgomery GI Bill, but because it was over 10 years I was Sol (Sorry out of Luck). I nearly died three times while in and this is how they treat honorably discharged veterans. 🏹🤠👍
So just to clarify, I can use the maximum benefits of 48 months VR&E + 36 months of GI bill which equals to 7 years worth of paid/free education, as long as I fall under the Honorable discharge veteran with up to 10% service connected disability?
Essentially correct. But 10% rating doesn't make VR&E acceptance automatic. It's just an eligibility minimum. You will have to apply and be approved based on your ratings, career goals etc.
Many of these details are counselor specific, but I was not given any pushback for this. It isn't supposed to matter. The intent is still to get education for the purpose of employment.
Great video! I wish I used VR&E during the first year since I got out. But I still have time and it's not too late. I've already applied and waiting for my first phone appointment. How does it work if the program I am interested in is going to take me 3 years to accomplish? I read in the comments that VR&E is only 48mos. I've used 1 year of my post 9/11 thus far
If you have used 1 academic year (8 months) of GI Bill, this means you still have 28 months of GI Bill left and 48 months of VR&E. 3 more years is only equal to 24 months if you talking about academic years. So you will have plenty of VR&E left to finish your BSN program. If you finish it using VR&E, you will still have the 28 months of GI Bill that you can use for grad school or something else. Does that answer your question?
Great channel bro 🔥 I’m still waiting on the decision on when I’m separating due to all this covid mandate stuff smh .. but I still plan on using that VET TEC 1st and hopefully I’ll get some VA Disability, ya boy is hurting haha
liked and subscribed I recently got out of the military in March. Just received my rating in the beginning of the month so I qualify for this. After this semester I'll have a whole year left of school, including full time summer and winter to transfer to 4 year in fall of 2023, hopefully in a nursing program. Would I be better off using this now and save the Gi Bill for later while in nursing school or would this some how be better? hopefully you can provide your opinion, thanks for the information.
Thank you! Congrats, keep at it! Definitely use this if you're approved. Using your GI Bill counts against VR&E eligiblity, but not the other way around. You can use this first then go to grad school on your GI Bill
Thank you for sharing this! I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now. Good stuff. Do you know if you still receive a subsistence allowance if you get into school through the VR&E? If so, would you be able to use BAH rate instead (considering you are GI Bill eligible and never used it prior to VR&E) ?
Thank you! I am glad you're finding them helpful! Yes, you still get the BAH/subsistence allowance. Yes, you will want to look at whichever is more and opt for that. In my experience, my VRC knew which was better for me and just did that automatically, but it doesn't hurt to check/confirm their math.
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I feel like everyone on here has a counselor that is actually trying to help them. My counselor denies me left and right, and always sends me the letter about why she decided not to assist me with things like getting my bachelors. Apparently, it is easier for her to deny and send decision letters so I would have to appeal to some higher authority than her supporting the reasons why I need the assistance and us working together. She makes me feel as though I am just a fast-food order that needs to be in and out in order to keep the line moving. I tried the VA forms and still nothing.
I don't know what all you ask for... but I have never been denied anything from my counselor. My rules: make their job as easy as possible (communicate well with them, take initiative, send grades before they ask, etc), don't over-ask (it's easy to tell when someone is just trying to milk the system). If you think you're doing all this right - it's ok to request a new counselor.
I transferred my entire Post-911 GI Bill to my daughter. She obtained her BS in only three years and she's currently using my last year of eligibility at vet school. When the GI Bill is exhausted, would she be eligible for VR&E? It seems, from your explanation, VR&E is only for veterans. Thank you.
Yes! You can use your GI Bill at a police academy. Most Academies will accept the GI Bill, I used it when I went through the Academy. Check with your Academy though.
Hey. Looking for advice. when I started vre i was 80% service connected then became 100%. Now im at a point where as soon as i transferred to start my bachellors my wife accused me of assaulting her. Im now suspended because last summer she withheld my laptop and school supplies which i have a police report for. I had my gpa reset so i started off with a bad one. I failed the first full semester because i was attending criminal, custody, support, and divorce court. However each semester i slightly increased my gpa. However its not good enough. I requested to speak with with the dean of student affairs because my school requested additional paperwork to support my petition for suspension. So i spoke to my vre counselor to see if she could write me a letter saying i could enroll at half time and she told me that i should ask my mental health provider. So i did and then i had to submit a foil request to obtain the letter. So it clearly took more than a week to send it in. I was also diagnosed adhd last semeter in which it became hard to focus for obvious reasons being homeless. I havent heard from my vre counselor to see if i can take classes back at the community college again.
Thanks for this video. This is exactly what I needed. I currently only have 13 months on my GI bill. Unfortunately, I just found out about VR&E. I finally decided that I wanted to go to school for nursing now and would like for them to pay for me to get my associates in nursing. Based on this video are you saying that if I get approved that I could save my GI bill and not even use it and use the VR &E to pay for my whole nursing program if it all works out?
Thanks Kris! I am happy you found the video helpful! If you have 13 months of GI Bill left, that means you've used 23 months of it. That 23 months is counted against your 48 month VR&E clock, which means you have 25 months of VR&E left plus the 13 remaining months of GI BIll (if you switch to VR&E now). That will give you 38 months total. So yes, you should be able to get the whole program covered. Just don't wait any longer to apply.
I’ve used all of my GI Bill because I didn’t know any of this information. That leaves me with 12 months of VR&E? Any programs come to mind for that length of time?
Question? If I feel like I'm not gonna do so well in a certain course such as Calculus, and I'm already registered. Can I drop this course before the cutoff date and receive a withdrawal, and register for another course that'll put me back to full time? Will dropping and adding classes have an affect on my benefits if I'm still full time, and attend my classes?
In my experience you can do this before the refund deadline. So the VA needs to get money back. But I would confirm that you won't be using your six credit exclusion rule. You don't want to waste that.
So if I am currently using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, I can essentially start using VR&E and save whatever I have left for graduate school? It's essentially like having two GI Bills?
Yep. You just gotta apply for VR&E, meet with your vrc and come up with the career/education plan. There's always a small chance of being denied, but not likely. Just gotta tie it to your VA comps
It will pay for educational certificates which is likely many of the programs that VETTEC covered. But it would be inaccurate to say that VR&E would pay for VETTEC. You can definitely do eligible coding camps and such through VR&e.
I'm using vre to get bachellors now. I've already said that I want to start a business, however I also said I want to get a degree in business management to do so. do you think I'll have an issue getting approved for a masters with vre?
If you're already getting undergrad with it, the first problem will probably be remaining entirely entitlement. You only get 48 months. Second part depends on your relationship with your VRC and if you need it to be successful.
Also want to add this for others: If you're using VR&E already prior to the new legislation that passed a year or two ago, your Post 911 / GI Bill benefits (referred to as CH 33) reset to 36mo of full eligibility (assuming you haven't used your CH 33 benefits yet). Old legislation made your CH 33 benefits drain at the concurrent rate while using CH 31 (VR&E) and why this is important to note for those seeking post grad, 2nd degree, or technical training. Also, be cautious of your VR&E counselor as there's a lot of them out there that are looking for ways to fire you from the program and/or not allow you access to your full entitlement of benefits. They will even have you sign unofficial documents (always double check the form numbers, if there's not one, do not sign it) that hold you to a standard well above the VA guidelines. If you encounter this, do not confront them, but ask questions and record absolutely everything. Do not sign any paperwork and escalate the situation quietly. Report them to the internal VA investigation team with your gathered evidence. I guarantee they will be fired and the office will be churched up benefiting all veterans in your area. (I personally have had to do this and other fellow vets living in different states have also had to do this. Head this warning.) PS - Be kind to the VR&E counselors and do what is mandatory for the program without complaint. These ladies and gents get shit on all the time by entitled "Karen" veterans (male and female alike) that are trying to squeeze everything out of the system with lies and bullying.
You are right, many VA counselors are not in it to help veterans. The battery of tests that they gave me recommended career fields such as researcher, scientist, Doctor, surgeon, nurse practitioner, PA so I thought that would work in my favor. I also worked up a whole dossier prior to meeting with my VA counselor to include department of Labor career field statistics, average pay for entry-level in the fields that align with my attitudes, interests, and abilities (in this case nursing), the schools that offered my desire degree program along with a cost analysis comparing the schools in my area (I even included acceptance letters lol). After all of that the counselor said that my disabilities would not allow me to enter the nursing field. This was rather comical because I don't think he knew the breadth of non-physical options available in the nursing field such as case manager, patient care coordinator, patient advocacy etc. I proceeded to ask the counselor what fields they would recommend then that would be tolerant of my disabilities and he told me that it wasn't his job to recommend anything; his job was to simply to approve or deny what I presented apparently. I wanted to work to the best of my ability but after that experience I just said screw it and applied for social security disability and was approved. At the end of the day you just have to hope that you get a good counselor I guess.
been looking every where for an answer. I start school again on the 28th of this month with 5 months of post 911 left. Im going to use vre this time and my counselor sent me VA FORM 28-10214. I cant find anywhere what the differences with P911SA RATE / HIGHER RATE BETWEEN CH31SA AND P911SA, which the latter was checked off. so I don't know what BAH Im getting cause my counselor has been ignoring most of the questions I have been asking.
Great video, well done broseph. I had my plan approved and signed today. It’s for a bachelor. They wouldn’t approve me for the masters, “because they can’t confirm I’d be accepted yet”. Was told to use my post 9/11 for that portion after I completed the VR&E program… do I still have the ability/chance of getting them to green light the masters down the road, and or able to turn around and apply for VR&E once more? Thank you!
Thanks Thomas! Happy to hear you found it helpful. Congrats on having your plan approved. There's always a chance. Continue to work towards completing your bachelors and as you get closer to completion, talk to your VRC about what you learned in the program and how a grad program is going to be critical for your career goals and how it's important for your VA comp rating. You just gotta make their job as easy as possible as long as you're in the program and build that relationship throughout the process. Save your asks for things that are truly important.
Hi, I am a Army veteran with 90% VA disability rating and 40% Army rating. I am 28 years old. I would like to go to school to get a bachelor’s degree in Accounting and eventually master’s degree in accounting. I would like to work for the federal government. I have not used any of my post 9/11 gi bill yet. I came across this Voc Rehab program for the eligible disabled veterans and watched your UA-cam video on which benefits to use for school: post 9/11 or Voc Rehab. I haven’t applied for Voc Rehab. I have got some questions for you. A: If I use Voc Rehab to get a bachelor’s degree, will I get BAH just like post 9/11? B: how long can I use Voc Rehab? Can I have it until I complete my bachelor’s degree? C: Post 9/11 gi bill covers for 36 months of school. If I use Voc Rehab, will they take away benefits from my Post 9/11 gi bill? I currently have around 40 college credits. I live in New York City. Any help would be very appreciated.
I am only familiar with a VA rating. What is the Army rating about? A. You will get BAH using VR&E (voc rehab), However, VR&E BAH is on a different scale (typically less, not always than GI Bill), but you are able to opt for the Post 9/11 BAH amount. You just have to tell your VRC. B. Everyone eligible for VR&E gets up to 48 months of VR&E benefits. C. If you use VR&E first, it will not count against your 36 months of GI Bill. However, if you use GI Bill first, it will count against your 48 months of VR&E. So use VR&E first. Hope that helps!
@@jasonburds Thank you for your information. I recently applied for Voc Rehab. I don’t know how long it’s gonna take if I want to go to school with this benefit. I am hearing it could take months. Is it possible to start off with post 9/11 GI bill and whenever Voc rehab for school is approved, just switch from post 911 GI bill to Voc Rehab? Can I do that? The Army rating above 30% means you are permanently retired and will have Tricare benefit for life.
@@everestdude1898 it shouldn't take months. Though I suppose it will depend on how busy your VRC is. The faster you complete the work they give you the quicker it will go through. I understand that you can use the GI Bill while applying for VR&E and switch at the end of the next semester. But that's the kind of thing we know could get wonky with the VA.
Thank you for the great info. Do you happen to know if VR&E will pay for the first two years of a bachelor's degree at a 4-year university? I was hoping to continue at the school I'm enrolled in now with VR&E and then switch to the GI Bill to pay for the remainder of my bachelors and eventually a masters. I'm hoping to avoid switching schools but with it being only 48 months of benefits for VR&E, I wasn't sure if they prefer that you go to a community college and get an associate's degree so that you're not leaving the program without some type of degree.
I already used the gi bill in a school that closed due to taking veterans money. I want to go to tech school in order to work as a mechanic at Harley Davidson . I’m wondering it this program will pay for it.
If you've already used all your GI Bill you will likely only have 12 months of eligibility for VR&E. But yes, if you are accepted into VR&E and can find a tech school that accepts the GI Bill (they're the same for admin purposes) this program will cover it
From what I understand, it's very doable to get into tech without a degree. Vettec will be faster, but you're going to have to prove your proficiency. I'd probably do VETTEC to get a cert and get comfortable then when I'm done, start applying for jobs. Maybe use VR&E to go to school part time for CS or something related while applying for jobs, networking and building a portfolio of projects. I'm not in the tech industry though. So I'm probably not the best person to ask.
so used roughly 25 months of Post 9/11 Switched to voc rehab and finished my degree. When i switch back to my Post 9/11 It will be the same as before BAH and All?
@@jasonburds It's 10% minimum but you would have to argue why your disability is gravely affecting your ability to get a job or continue to work at the same job. 20%, you don't have to argue your case as hard.
Great video! I’m currently having way in my bachelors for bio, I just started college & used my GI bill first, I have about 32 month left until next semester, I was recently approved for VR&E under the impression of competing my bachelors, but I really want to do Physician assistant school, a masters degree, should I tell them that or just use my GI bill for it ?
It sounds like you have plenty of time to work on telling them that later. If you're approved for VR&E, are enrolled in school using VR&E and doing well, I would hold off. Just focus on being a great student, getting good grades and making your VRC's job as easy as possible. This means communicate well with them, don't ask them for too much, etc. Then as you're getting closer to graduating or applying to PA or masters programs, have a conversation with your VRC and explain what you have learned in school about yourself/the careers and why you would now like to continue in your education. Build that relationship and rapport first and then you can ask for things. Make sense?
@@jasonburds literally the BEST advice I have read on UA-cam or any forum I’ve read about it, thank you so much! I’ll keep that in mind; thank you & god bless
Get an acceptable letter into PA school before letting your counselor know your intentions, you should have an acceptance before graduation. They want to know that you are capable of pursuing this career and that you are willing to put in the work. You also want to make their life as easy as possible and they will do the same for you.
Do you know if you can use the GI bill to study as an exchange student while overseas? For example, I plan on using my MGIB at a university in Italy, and then do you think I will still be covered to study abroad in Spain for a semester? Will that university in Spain also need to be one of the schools that accept the GI Bill? I will still be technically going to the Italian university, I’d just be in an exchange program. Thank you.
I made a video on studying abroad with the GI Bill. Hopefully it'll answer some of your questions ua-cam.com/video/4hopQ2PhYeU/v-deo.htmlsi=jkpReelkeSAW59gR
I am currently using my GI bill to finish school. I have a little more than 1 semester left but I’ve only used about 1.5 semesters worth of GI bill. I was already a junior when I started using it. I want to get either another bachelors or masters right after. What would be the best option. I am a disabled vet. Would VR&E be the route to go?
The VR&E will push for you to get employed, since it’s an employment benefit not an educational benefit. If you masters or other degree is in route for you to get employment then the VR&E will cover it, and if you have at least one day of the GI-Bill left then you will also get E-5 BAH instead of the regular VR&E sustenance rate.
I think it's always worth trying to use VR&E first since the GI Bill doesn't expire. Either way you are unlikely to utilize all of your VR&E AND GI Bill benefits. Getting approved for VR&E isn't a guarantee. So using VR&E while you have no (or fewer) degrees, it's more likely to get approved.
As long as you can explain your career despite your disabilities, I would recommend it. If it could be argued that being a personal trainer would make your disabilities worse, it may not be worth going down the road. You have to be able to justify the career as it pertains to your VA ratings.
@@jasonburds interesting, is the funding pretty similar to the gi bill? The school I got into is private so I’ll be using the yellow ribbon most likely
You have 48 months of eligiblity. There difficult part is that vets will "graduate" from vr&e. This is basically the vet and counselor agreeing that you are ready for employment and closing your case. Technically you still have more eligiblity, but you'll have to be able to explain what changed and why you need more help. If you're going to use a different track each time, that may make it easier. Short answer is yes.
I hope I don’t sound like I’m dumb, but do they basically fund for your degree regardless of how long it takes? Or is it similar to the GI Bill where you have about 36 months to use?
Thank you for all your information in this video. I've exhausted my Ch. 30 benefits. I applied and qualified for the VR&E, my VA counselor told me I don't qualify for BAH because I don't have "at least 1 day of entitlement time." So I didn't use Ch. 33, therefore I don't qualify for BAH? I'm not sure what this means.
Meej, that doesn't sound right. I could understand if they said you only qualify for VR&E BAH and don't qualify for picking between GI Bill or VR&E BAH. But if you qualify and are approved for VR&E you should still be able to get BAH. Did you ask what reg their siting?
@@jasonburds No, I didn't know, so I didn't ask. I guess I should had because my counselor said I only qualify for the school stipend and not for BAH. Sucks.
@@jasonburds "As of right now you don’t have Ch.33 entitlement time. In order for you to be entitled to Ch.33 BAH rate you must have at least 1 day of entitlement time. You qualify for Ch.31 rate at a base pay of $723.56." This is what she said. I don't know if she's right or not, I'm just assuming she is and I'm not getting BAH. Sucks.
@@meej6452 ya, that's what I figured. You're still getting the VR&E BAH. You just don't get to choose the greater amount anymore, which is normally the default
@@jasonburds So what I'm getting in $733 is the VR&E BAH? This way I can understand and not bother my counselor anymore waiting for 5 weeks for her to respond. Also, thank you so much for responding to me in such a timely manner. My counselor lives in the same city as me and I don't hear from her for weeks asking simple questions.
For this track, yes. It's the same as GI Bill in that sense. However, after graduation you may be eligible to receive it for 2 additional months while you look for employment.
I'm curious about your journey and how it's going. Why not use VR&E for a school with a degree program in Aviation? I have my Private Pilot License/Cert and I plan to utilize the Long-Term track to hopefully foot the bill to get me into the Aviation industry as a pilot.
Yes you do. There is a VR&E rate and GI Bill rate. If you're eligible for GI Bill still, you'll get to choose which you want. GI Bill rate is typically higher. If you've used all your GI Bill, you'll get the VR&E rate.
I went to voc rehab and said I wanted to not use my g.i. bill and they said no and to use my g.i. bill and to come back to them when my g.i. bill is almost up. Should i report these people for fucking me?
Sorry to be late to the party (9 months late). I was wondering if I utilized chapter 33(GI Bill) for BAH while using chapter 31(VR&E) to pay for tuition, does it exhaust my GI Bill in anyway. Would greatly appreciate feedback on the question.
@@jasonburds I called the VA about Vet Tech several months ago and the guy told me you can double dip VRE and GI Bill at the same time. I didn't have time to dig for details right then (I should have) but I'm going to ask around about that. It doesn't sound right but if I find out it's true I'll report back.
@@morganellabean definitely keep me posted. They're usually pretty good about closing double BAH loopholes. The only one I know of is if both spouses are in the military. Even then, I've heard of them trying to shut that down.
@@jasonburds They're policing BAH for dual military spouses?!? That's insane. How do they decide which service member loses their BAH entitlement? My ex and I both got BAH but that was 8-10 years ago. I'd be irate if they took that away from one of us because we were married.
@@morganellabean they haven't successfully. I just heard at one point they were considering it. But I think they probably realized the same things you're mentioning.
I have a question. So, I have 19 months left on my GI Bill (33) that expires 31 March 2025. I just enrolled in a trade school that starts at the end of this month - 1 year long. Hypothetical - Lets say that I was approved for VRE prior to start date (again hypo). I read somewhere that I have an option to get the housing allowance from my GI Bill because its higher, even tho Im using VRE. Can you confirm that? Then I may have a follow up question or too. Thank you kindly BTW for what you do helping us out.
Great video. I found the answer I want in this video. I have 23 months post 911 gibill entitlement left. I qualify for VR&E. I know there are 2 housing allowance to choose for VR&E. Which one should I choose if I want to save my 23 months post911 entitlement for future? I plan to go to online school for IT. I want to save 911 gibill for campus class.
what was the reasoning? 60% doesn't really mean anything. All that matters is what your rating(s) are for, how your current employment makes them worse and how your desired employment won't... You could be 100% and get denied if those things don't make sense to them.
@@jasonburds I haven't received the letter yet with the reason why just the phone call from the counselor telling me she didn't approve me. Issues are PTSD, degenerative disk disease and bulging disk in my lower back a degenerative disk disease in neck along with headaches. I currently work in a warehouse so on my feet all the time minus breaks
@@jasonburds I'm wanting to get my home inspection license and start my own business. The counselor told me the school that offers the training is a chpt 31 school
@@dustinmills5939 is not a chapter 31 school? That makes sense. I've been trying to get real estate appraising approved for about a year. I imagine it's similar issues.
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You just set me up for my PhD educational funding track! I didn't know this existed. I used TA for some of my bachelors but didn't finish in service. I was gonna use my GI bill to finish up my Bachelors out of state and come back for my hazelwood act for the remainder of my educational goal. With this i can prob do my whole Phd where ever I want! Im so thankful, stay blessed.
@@MillyChango just seeing this! This is awesome to hear! I hope this works out for you!
Using the program right now to get my engineering degree. Plus, they help you find a job after you graduate. Save your GI bill for later.
Smart move. Yes they do! With two months of stipend while looking for a job.
Hi Nicolas! Are they covering the entire 4 years? I’ve been approved for trade schooling but I think I want to switch to a psychology program. Just curious..
@@LITTLEMISSASIA Yep. They cover the whole degree and even school supplies like laptop, printer, and desk.
DO NOT USE VRE FIRST. USE GI BILL FOR UNDERGRAD. USE VRE FOR GRADUATE DEGREE BUT THEN USE RETRO ACTIVE INDUCTION TO GET UR GI BILL MONTHS BACK. ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR GRAD DEGREE, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR WHOLE GI BILL IN POCKET.
@@sethmunoz4030 I'm currently in undergrad for engineering, I should be able to finish out my degree and still have a little bit of GI Bill left over. You're saying I could go to VR&E after graduation so they help with my masters instead? Interesting path as well
I just got a call from a VR&E counselor. I told her I'm currently using my GI Bill but she told me it would be better to use my VR&E first and save my GI Bill for later. Thankfully I can switch my GI Bill with the VR&E program. Thank you for this information.
Absolutely. Happy you were able to find out before using all your GI Bill.
how did u contact a VRE counselor? I cannot figure it out :(
GOSH DAMMMITT!!! I wish I'd have known this! F*ck!!
I wish I knew this prior to!
TAPS does not give out this type of information.
Hopefully you were able to see this in time!
TAPS doesn’t showcase the “TRUE” benefits of being a veteran, nor will they start. Self research is essential! Best of luck ma’am 😎💪🏽
@@freeagent9753 Thank You!
I retired last year and so much I had to figure out for myself, plus my mother works for the VA claim department
@@shirajai very nice. Yes I had to research a lot of stuff and at the same time have to make plenty of doctor visits for some VA. Soaking up all this knowledge while i prepare to separate active duty
I have back problems that sometimes I can’t even walk. I just found about this program through my therapist! I’m 100 disabled . I’m so happy this program exist!
Awesome! I hope the program gives you what you need.
Eres bien bonita ;)
Are your back problems injury related or nah?
I have my first meeting with my VRE counselor tomorrow. SUPER crossing my fingers that he's chill and willing to work with me. I already have my undergrad, hoping to use the program for law school. This video was super helpful, thank you. Gonna go see if you posted that video about your experience with the program.
Awesome! Good luck! I appreciate that reminder. I'm in my last semester and haven't made that video yet. I'll have to prep that and get the video lined up.
@@jasonburds I'll definitely give it a watch.
@@morganellabean thanks boss! I'll start working on it.
My sister & I are both vets and we are trying out vre each way... she is using it as her first benefit whereas I am using it on the back end . Hope we can find some unforeseen pros & cons for others looking to maximize their educations. Thanks for the vid
I'll be curious if you find any benefit to using VR&E on the back end. Keep me posted!
Alot of good information...thank you...very much appreciated
Thanks for breaking this does Barney style. I really don’t even know what I want to do at this point but I’m glad I understand this program better as both me and my wife are trying to figure out using our VA benefits
We're all trying to figure it out. Get your hands in a little bit of everything and see what you like. You don't want to risk changing paths too many times and running out of benefits.
This…. SAME… I did it backwards started with GI bill. Dove into requesting VR&E a while back and was too overwhelmed when counselor contacted me I didn’t know if I was making right or wrong choice. I’m ready now to learn what VR&E exactly is
Dude literally
Do the cover housing because that’s my major sticking point
Yes, you still get a stipend. Is that what you mean?
@@jasonburds Thanks and yes.
First and foremost, GREAT VIDEO! I'm attempting to use VR&E for the "Long-Term Service Track" seeking a career as a Pilot. I was directed to apply for these VA benefits 1st because Post 9/11 most likely won't cover all the expenses with a degree program, so here I am. I attained my Private Pilot License/Cert last month which I was told was a requirement for VR&E. My appointment with my VRC is scheduled for 30 November. I'll let you know how it goes. Any additional feedback or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
Awesome! Please keep us posted how this goes/went!
this might have just changed my life - thanks for your video brother.
Love to hear this!
Hey man thank you for putting this information out. Informative and very helpful. Please keep pushing out content !
Thank you Anela! I really appreciate that! I don't have plans to stop!
Came here to find out what this exactly is and to start to understand VR&E lingo vs Gi bill. Subscribed and ready to learn more
You can’t use the VR&E program if you live in Japan and you do not meet certain qualifications. FYI
Thanks for sharing this. I haven't seen anything on using VR&E abroad, so that's good to know.
Helping us brothers and sisters 🙏
Spread the word fam
You can use this for flight lessons towards getting your ATP license to become a pilot in addition to $15k per year they cover for the lessons after your Private License.
Do you have personal experience with this? Would love chat.
Not too much, but my buddy is waiting to get his VR&E approved and I also spoke with a program that broke it down to me. Yeah man it would be awesome to chat!
Great information they should tell every Marine this when they are transitioning out of the military.
Thanks Shawn. I totally agree. Point them here instead. lol
Using mine on the back end. I would like to say I wish I understood how to use it when I first got out, but I wasn't ready. I have a really dope counselor so I'm sure I could convince him to let me get my masters when I'm finished 🤓😏
I used it on the back end for my masters. I think you'll be alright.
Thank you so much for this great explanation of VR&E!
My pleasure!
Wow this was by far the best explanation after viewing many others. I feel way more confident in what I know about this program now thanks to you. Can you take all online classes with this program? Thanks
So glad to hear that Alex. Yes you can! I'm in a fully online masters program with VR&E right now.
Wow i didnt know this is online too, incredible!
@@Architect714 100%
Liked and subscribed. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for the sub!
VR&E sucks but it is best to use it during your undergraduate years since getting a masters through them is near impossible.
Use your post 9/11 to get your masters and then do VET TECH AFTER!!
Sucks?? I totally disagree.
Going from VR&E to GI Bill to vetec... What's the point of this? Just to continue getting bah?
Damn this was a great vid bro, getting out soon for adjustment disorder which apparently is an general under honorable sep even though its a medical condition..this makes it iffy to het my GI bill i believe.. but thank God this program exists especially since i only want to go to trade school.. bless up 🙌🏽
Right on dude. Hopefully this will provide what you need to successfully transition.
I got out of the service and a few months later went to the VA in Orlando FL and they told me I was under the Veep program, and because I had contributed anything in, I would get nothing from them. When I went in the AF I was told that was under the Montgomery GI bill. I was so mad I have had nothing to do with the VA for years but now thanks to suffering from an severe concussion while in the service I will be going back and filing an disability, but I asked and was told that "I WAS under the Montgomery GI Bill, but because it was over 10 years I was Sol (Sorry out of Luck). I nearly died three times while in and this is how they treat honorably discharged veterans. 🏹🤠👍
VEAP? What year did you join/get out?
If you have GI Bill eligibility you can get the full bah instead of the usual vr&e stipend.
Correct.
Thx for the video man. Not all the VR&E are dream come to true, I've been in this program for about 8 months and I'm no where toward any goals
What do you mean? Your VRC isn't helping or the education process is taking longer then expected?
@@jasonburds not helping at all, I've been in this program for about 8 months now!
Great to know, thanks for the tips!
My pleasure!
Hoping to get approved for this for nursing!!
Awesome!
Cannot thank you enough for this info
Happy to help!
Will you still received the same zip code generated stipends from the Post 911 when using the VR&E program?
They're generated differently. GI Bill typically is more. Video to come.
So just to clarify, I can use the maximum benefits of 48 months VR&E + 36 months of GI bill which equals to 7 years worth of paid/free education, as long as I fall under the Honorable discharge veteran with up to 10% service connected disability?
Essentially correct. But 10% rating doesn't make VR&E acceptance automatic. It's just an eligibility minimum. You will have to apply and be approved based on your ratings, career goals etc.
Where do you apply?
will they bring up the fact that you were using the GI bill before VR&E and just want it for education?
Many of these details are counselor specific, but I was not given any pushback for this. It isn't supposed to matter. The intent is still to get education for the purpose of employment.
Great video! I wish I used VR&E during the first year since I got out. But I still have time and it's not too late. I've already applied and waiting for my first phone appointment. How does it work if the program I am interested in is going to take me 3 years to accomplish? I read in the comments that VR&E is only 48mos. I've used 1 year of my post 9/11 thus far
Program I'm interested in is the BSN program
If you have used 1 academic year (8 months) of GI Bill, this means you still have 28 months of GI Bill left and 48 months of VR&E. 3 more years is only equal to 24 months if you talking about academic years. So you will have plenty of VR&E left to finish your BSN program. If you finish it using VR&E, you will still have the 28 months of GI Bill that you can use for grad school or something else.
Does that answer your question?
Great channel bro 🔥 I’m still waiting on the decision on when I’m separating due to all this covid mandate stuff smh .. but I still plan on using that VET TEC 1st and hopefully I’ll get some VA Disability, ya boy is hurting haha
Right on man. Make sure you're utilizing TA and programs while you're still in to get the ball rolling!
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I recently got out of the military in March. Just received my rating in the beginning of the month so I qualify for this. After this semester I'll have a whole year left of school, including full time summer and winter to transfer to 4 year in fall of 2023, hopefully in a nursing program. Would I be better off using this now and save the Gi Bill for later while in nursing school or would this some how be better? hopefully you can provide your opinion, thanks for the information.
Thank you! Congrats, keep at it! Definitely use this if you're approved. Using your GI Bill counts against VR&E eligiblity, but not the other way around. You can use this first then go to grad school on your GI Bill
Thank you for sharing this! I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now. Good stuff.
Do you know if you still receive a subsistence allowance if you get into school through the VR&E? If so, would you be able to use BAH rate instead (considering you are GI Bill eligible and never used it prior to VR&E) ?
Thank you! I am glad you're finding them helpful!
Yes, you still get the BAH/subsistence allowance. Yes, you will want to look at whichever is more and opt for that. In my experience, my VRC knew which was better for me and just did that automatically, but it doesn't hurt to check/confirm their math.
So if I already started using my GI Bill I can’t switch over to VR&E?
Not so. You can apply for VR&E at any time. Just keep in mind it'll likely take you a semester to get switched over. It's not always fast.
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I feel like everyone on here has a counselor that is actually trying to help them. My counselor denies me left and right, and always sends me the letter about why she decided not to assist me with things like getting my bachelors. Apparently, it is easier for her to deny and send decision letters so I would have to appeal to some higher authority than her supporting the reasons why I need the assistance and us working together. She makes me feel as though I am just a fast-food order that needs to be in and out in order to keep the line moving. I tried the VA forms and still nothing.
I don't know what all you ask for... but I have never been denied anything from my counselor. My rules: make their job as easy as possible (communicate well with them, take initiative, send grades before they ask, etc), don't over-ask (it's easy to tell when someone is just trying to milk the system). If you think you're doing all this right - it's ok to request a new counselor.
Hi!!! Can you do a video about eaa payments? There's no info anywhere and the counselors are tight lipped about it for some reason!lol thanks
We want to hear your experience with VR&E
That'd be an easy video. I can do that.
Just applied!!
Let's go! Good luck!
I transferred my entire Post-911 GI Bill to my daughter. She obtained her BS in only three years and she's currently using my last year of eligibility at vet school. When the GI Bill is exhausted, would she be eligible for VR&E? It seems, from your explanation, VR&E is only for veterans. Thank you.
Correct. VR&E cannot be transferred.
Trying to figure out if I can use my GI Bill for the police academy
Pretty confident you can. Check out the GI Bill comparison tool
Yes! You can use your GI Bill at a police academy. Most Academies will accept the GI Bill, I used it when I went through the Academy. Check with your Academy though.
Are they handing out VA ratings like candy now?
Some would say so.
Hey. Looking for advice. when I started vre i was 80% service connected then became 100%. Now im at a point where as soon as i transferred to start my bachellors my wife accused me of assaulting her. Im now suspended because last summer she withheld my laptop and school supplies which i have a police report for. I had my gpa reset so i started off with a bad one. I failed the first full semester because i was attending criminal, custody, support, and divorce court. However each semester i slightly increased my gpa. However its not good enough. I requested to speak with with the dean of student affairs because my school requested additional paperwork to support my petition for suspension. So i spoke to my vre counselor to see if she could write me a letter saying i could enroll at half time and she told me that i should ask my mental health provider. So i did and then i had to submit a foil request to obtain the letter. So it clearly took more than a week to send it in. I was also diagnosed adhd last semeter in which it became hard to focus for obvious reasons being homeless. I havent heard from my vre counselor to see if i can take classes back at the community college again.
Thanks for this video. This is exactly what I needed. I currently only have 13 months on my GI bill. Unfortunately, I just found out about VR&E. I finally decided that I wanted to go to school for nursing now and would like for them to pay for me to get my associates in nursing. Based on this video are you saying that if I get approved that I could save my GI bill and not even use it and use the VR &E to pay for my whole nursing program if it all works out?
Thanks Kris! I am happy you found the video helpful! If you have 13 months of GI Bill left, that means you've used 23 months of it. That 23 months is counted against your 48 month VR&E clock, which means you have 25 months of VR&E left plus the 13 remaining months of GI BIll (if you switch to VR&E now). That will give you 38 months total. So yes, you should be able to get the whole program covered. Just don't wait any longer to apply.
Same! Just beginning to learn… a bit late in the game just like everything else learning on the military in your own
I’ve used all of my GI Bill because I didn’t know any of this information. That leaves me with 12 months of VR&E? Any programs come to mind for that length of time?
Question? If I feel like I'm not gonna do so well in a certain course such as Calculus, and I'm already registered. Can I drop this course before the cutoff date and receive a withdrawal, and register for another course that'll put me back to full time? Will dropping and adding classes have an affect on my benefits if I'm still full time, and attend my classes?
In my experience you can do this before the refund deadline. So the VA needs to get money back. But I would confirm that you won't be using your six credit exclusion rule. You don't want to waste that.
So if I am currently using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, I can essentially start using VR&E and save whatever I have left for graduate school? It's essentially like having two GI Bills?
Yep. You just gotta apply for VR&E, meet with your vrc and come up with the career/education plan. There's always a small chance of being denied, but not likely. Just gotta tie it to your VA comps
Use both
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What about if GI Bill expired?
Very hard to get the reversed/extended. Only way I've heard it done is by justifying not using it earlier because of your VA disabilities
Is there a way to stretch out the VR&E time?Great info btw
What do you mean stretch it out? You have a max of 48 months. Your finish is based on the plan you and your VRC come up with.
If circumstances change yes
Will VR&E pay for tech as Vet Tec is out of $$?
It will pay for educational certificates which is likely many of the programs that VETTEC covered. But it would be inaccurate to say that VR&E would pay for VETTEC. You can definitely do eligible coding camps and such through VR&e.
I'm using vre to get bachellors now. I've already said that I want to start a business, however I also said I want to get a degree in business management to do so. do you think I'll have an issue getting approved for a masters with vre?
If you're already getting undergrad with it, the first problem will probably be remaining entirely entitlement. You only get 48 months. Second part depends on your relationship with your VRC and if you need it to be successful.
Also want to add this for others:
If you're using VR&E already prior to the new legislation that passed a year or two ago, your Post 911 / GI Bill benefits (referred to as CH 33) reset to 36mo of full eligibility (assuming you haven't used your CH 33 benefits yet). Old legislation made your CH 33 benefits drain at the concurrent rate while using CH 31 (VR&E) and why this is important to note for those seeking post grad, 2nd degree, or technical training.
Also, be cautious of your VR&E counselor as there's a lot of them out there that are looking for ways to fire you from the program and/or not allow you access to your full entitlement of benefits. They will even have you sign unofficial documents (always double check the form numbers, if there's not one, do not sign it) that hold you to a standard well above the VA guidelines. If you encounter this, do not confront them, but ask questions and record absolutely everything. Do not sign any paperwork and escalate the situation quietly. Report them to the internal VA investigation team with your gathered evidence. I guarantee they will be fired and the office will be churched up benefiting all veterans in your area. (I personally have had to do this and other fellow vets living in different states have also had to do this. Head this warning.)
PS - Be kind to the VR&E counselors and do what is mandatory for the program without complaint. These ladies and gents get shit on all the time by entitled "Karen" veterans (male and female alike) that are trying to squeeze everything out of the system with lies and bullying.
lol. facts.
You are right, many VA counselors are not in it to help veterans. The battery of tests that they gave me recommended career fields such as researcher, scientist, Doctor, surgeon, nurse practitioner, PA so I thought that would work in my favor. I also worked up a whole dossier prior to meeting with my VA counselor to include department of Labor career field statistics, average pay for entry-level in the fields that align with my attitudes, interests, and abilities (in this case nursing), the schools that offered my desire degree program along with a cost analysis comparing the schools in my area (I even included acceptance letters lol).
After all of that the counselor said that my disabilities would not allow me to enter the nursing field. This was rather comical because I don't think he knew the breadth of non-physical options available in the nursing field such as case manager, patient care coordinator, patient advocacy etc. I proceeded to ask the counselor what fields they would recommend then that would be tolerant of my disabilities and he told me that it wasn't his job to recommend anything; his job was to simply to approve or deny what I presented apparently.
I wanted to work to the best of my ability but after that experience I just said screw it and applied for social security disability and was approved. At the end of the day you just have to hope that you get a good counselor I guess.
been looking every where for an answer. I start school again on the 28th of this month with 5 months of post 911 left. Im going to use vre this time and my counselor sent me VA FORM 28-10214. I cant find anywhere what the differences with P911SA RATE / HIGHER RATE BETWEEN CH31SA AND P911SA, which the latter was checked off. so I don't know what BAH Im getting cause my counselor has been ignoring most of the questions I have been asking.
This is a great question and it's harder than it should be to get a solid answer. I will do some research and make a video on this. Thanks.
Can I use it after my gi bill? Lmk!
Technically. But you'll only have 12 months of it left and you'll have to be and to justify the need for more education.
Great video, well done broseph. I had my plan approved and signed today. It’s for a bachelor. They wouldn’t approve me for the masters, “because they can’t confirm I’d be accepted yet”. Was told to use my post 9/11 for that portion after I completed the VR&E program… do I still have the ability/chance of getting them to green light the masters down the road, and or able to turn around and apply for VR&E once more? Thank you!
Thanks Thomas! Happy to hear you found it helpful. Congrats on having your plan approved. There's always a chance. Continue to work towards completing your bachelors and as you get closer to completion, talk to your VRC about what you learned in the program and how a grad program is going to be critical for your career goals and how it's important for your VA comp rating. You just gotta make their job as easy as possible as long as you're in the program and build that relationship throughout the process. Save your asks for things that are truly important.
@@jasonburds THANK YOU.
Hi,
I am a Army veteran with 90% VA disability rating and 40% Army rating. I am 28 years old. I would like to go to school to get a bachelor’s degree in Accounting and eventually master’s degree in accounting. I would like to work for the federal government. I have not used any of my post 9/11 gi bill yet. I came across this Voc Rehab program for the eligible disabled veterans and watched your UA-cam video on which benefits to use for school: post 9/11 or Voc Rehab. I haven’t applied for Voc Rehab. I have got some questions for you.
A: If I use Voc Rehab to get a bachelor’s degree, will I get BAH just like post 9/11?
B: how long can I use Voc Rehab? Can I have it until I complete my bachelor’s degree?
C: Post 9/11 gi bill covers for 36 months of school. If I use Voc Rehab, will they take away benefits from my Post 9/11 gi bill?
I currently have around 40 college credits. I live in New York City. Any help would be very appreciated.
I am only familiar with a VA rating. What is the Army rating about?
A. You will get BAH using VR&E (voc rehab), However, VR&E BAH is on a different scale (typically less, not always than GI Bill), but you are able to opt for the Post 9/11 BAH amount. You just have to tell your VRC.
B. Everyone eligible for VR&E gets up to 48 months of VR&E benefits.
C. If you use VR&E first, it will not count against your 36 months of GI Bill. However, if you use GI Bill first, it will count against your 48 months of VR&E. So use VR&E first.
Hope that helps!
@@jasonburds Thank you for your information. I recently applied for Voc Rehab. I don’t know how long it’s gonna take if I want to go to school with this benefit. I am hearing it could take months. Is it possible to start off with post 9/11 GI bill and whenever Voc rehab for school is approved, just switch from post 911 GI bill to Voc Rehab? Can I do that?
The Army rating above 30% means you are permanently retired and will have Tricare benefit for life.
@@everestdude1898 it shouldn't take months. Though I suppose it will depend on how busy your VRC is. The faster you complete the work they give you the quicker it will go through. I understand that you can use the GI Bill while applying for VR&E and switch at the end of the next semester. But that's the kind of thing we know could get wonky with the VA.
The limit for the post 911 gi bill is 36 months. Is there a time limit for vr&e?
Also what’s the housing allowance for vr&e?
46 months if you haven't used any of your GI Bill. If you have GI bill remaining, BAH is the same for GI Bill. If you're out, its slightly less.
Can u use voc rehab for 48 months then use your gi bill for 36 months
Indeed. That's a big part of what I was trying to communicate.
Thank you for the great info. Do you happen to know if VR&E will pay for the first two years of a bachelor's degree at a 4-year university? I was hoping to continue at the school I'm enrolled in now with VR&E and then switch to the GI Bill to pay for the remainder of my bachelors and eventually a masters. I'm hoping to avoid switching schools but with it being only 48 months of benefits for VR&E, I wasn't sure if they prefer that you go to a community college and get an associate's degree so that you're not leaving the program without some type of degree.
If you qualify and enroll, they'll pay for the first two years. But why stop? Just use VR&E for your entire undergrad.
Damn I wasn’t eligible at the time I was using my post 9/11 GI Bill
Yep. I wasn't aware this existed. That's why we gotta let people know.
I already used the gi bill in a school that closed due to taking veterans money. I want to go to tech school in order to work as a mechanic at Harley Davidson . I’m wondering it this program will pay for it.
If you've already used all your GI Bill you will likely only have 12 months of eligibility for VR&E. But yes, if you are accepted into VR&E and can find a tech school that accepts the GI Bill (they're the same for admin purposes) this program will cover it
Does the institution/vocational program have to be approved through the VA already or can a new program be used? Thank you!
You can always blaze the trail and work to get a new school/program approved.
am i able to get full benefits for my gi bills if i am thinking of going to reserve or IMA ?
Sure. As long as you don't take active orders while using the GI bill. You can't receive double BAH.
VR&E rep for Ft Bragg??
Are you asking who is it? I don't know. Just apply and you'll get set up with one.
I thought it was 20%?
Nope. Screenshot of "10%" is straight from VA website
In your opinion If I wanted to get into the Tech field which would suggest VR&E or Vet Tech ?
From what I understand, it's very doable to get into tech without a degree. Vettec will be faster, but you're going to have to prove your proficiency.
I'd probably do VETTEC to get a cert and get comfortable then when I'm done, start applying for jobs. Maybe use VR&E to go to school part time for CS or something related while applying for jobs, networking and building a portfolio of projects.
I'm not in the tech industry though. So I'm probably not the best person to ask.
so used roughly 25 months of Post 9/11 Switched to voc rehab and finished my degree. When i switch back to my Post 9/11 It will be the same as before BAH and All?
Yep.
The VA rating is now 20%
Give me a link. VA website still says 10%, but it was last updated in October, so maybe it's wrong. But I gotta know!
@@jasonburds It's 10% minimum but you would have to argue why your disability is gravely affecting your ability to get a job or continue to work at the same job. 20%, you don't have to argue your case as hard.
@@meej6452 sure, the more ratings you have the more justifiable VR&E is. But eligibility still starts at 10%. What the rating is for matters more.
Question. If my wife is using my Post 911 , can I use VR&E at the same time as her using my Post 911? Thank you !
I have seen nothing suggesting you can't. This would be a great opportunity!
Great video! I’m currently having way in my bachelors for bio, I just started college & used my GI bill first, I have about 32 month left until next semester, I was recently approved for VR&E under the impression of competing my bachelors, but I really want to do Physician assistant school, a masters degree, should I tell them that or just use my GI bill for it ?
It sounds like you have plenty of time to work on telling them that later. If you're approved for VR&E, are enrolled in school using VR&E and doing well, I would hold off. Just focus on being a great student, getting good grades and making your VRC's job as easy as possible. This means communicate well with them, don't ask them for too much, etc. Then as you're getting closer to graduating or applying to PA or masters programs, have a conversation with your VRC and explain what you have learned in school about yourself/the careers and why you would now like to continue in your education. Build that relationship and rapport first and then you can ask for things. Make sense?
@@jasonburds literally the BEST advice I have read on UA-cam or any forum I’ve read about it, thank you so much! I’ll keep that in mind; thank you & god bless
@@Allhailmateo thanks man! Glad to hear it. Good luck!
Get an acceptable letter into PA school before letting your counselor know your intentions, you should have an acceptance before graduation. They want to know that you are capable of pursuing this career and that you are willing to put in the work. You also want to make their life as easy as possible and they will do the same for you.
Do you know if you can use the GI bill to study as an exchange student while overseas? For example, I plan on using my MGIB at a university in Italy, and then do you think I will still be covered to study abroad in Spain for a semester? Will that university in Spain also need to be one of the schools that accept the GI Bill? I will still be technically going to the Italian university, I’d just be in an exchange program. Thank you.
I made a video on studying abroad with the GI Bill. Hopefully it'll answer some of your questions
ua-cam.com/video/4hopQ2PhYeU/v-deo.htmlsi=jkpReelkeSAW59gR
I am currently using my GI bill to finish school. I have a little more than 1 semester left but I’ve only used about 1.5 semesters worth of GI bill. I was already a junior when I started using it. I want to get either another bachelors or masters right after. What would be the best option. I am a disabled vet. Would VR&E be the route to go?
The VR&E will push for you to get employed, since it’s an employment benefit not an educational benefit. If you masters or other degree is in route for you to get employment then the VR&E will cover it, and if you have at least one day of the GI-Bill left then you will also get E-5 BAH instead of the regular VR&E sustenance rate.
I think it's always worth trying to use VR&E first since the GI Bill doesn't expire. Either way you are unlikely to utilize all of your VR&E AND GI Bill benefits. Getting approved for VR&E isn't a guarantee. So using VR&E while you have no (or fewer) degrees, it's more likely to get approved.
I am looking to becoming a personal trainer. I am 100 P&T. Would you recommend using VR&E? Or would this affect me because of my disabilities?
As long as you can explain your career despite your disabilities, I would recommend it. If it could be argued that being a personal trainer would make your disabilities worse, it may not be worth going down the road. You have to be able to justify the career as it pertains to your VA ratings.
Are you able to work part time while going to school and receive vr&e?
Absolutely. I'm currently working full time and using VR&E for grad school.
@@jasonburds interesting, is the funding pretty similar to the gi bill? The school I got into is private so I’ll be using the yellow ribbon most likely
@@romancenturion8593 similar in wha they will cover? Kind of. There aren't any limitations to VR&E funding as long as it can be justified.
can you use the VR & E more than once
You have 48 months of eligiblity. There difficult part is that vets will "graduate" from vr&e. This is basically the vet and counselor agreeing that you are ready for employment and closing your case. Technically you still have more eligiblity, but you'll have to be able to explain what changed and why you need more help. If you're going to use a different track each time, that may make it easier.
Short answer is yes.
I hope I don’t sound like I’m dumb, but do they basically fund for your degree regardless of how long it takes? Or is it similar to the GI Bill where you have about 36 months to use?
You have 48 months of eligibility. So it can run out for sure.
Will they back pay VRE if if it took me a while to get a va rating?
No. There's nothing to back pay. You weren't enrolled in VR&E
Can you use both?
Simultaneously, I haven't heard of it being done or seen anything indicating you can. At different times, yes.
Thank you for all your information in this video. I've exhausted my Ch. 30 benefits. I applied and qualified for the VR&E, my VA counselor told me I don't qualify for BAH because I don't have "at least 1 day of entitlement time." So I didn't use Ch. 33, therefore I don't qualify for BAH? I'm not sure what this means.
Meej, that doesn't sound right. I could understand if they said you only qualify for VR&E BAH and don't qualify for picking between GI Bill or VR&E BAH. But if you qualify and are approved for VR&E you should still be able to get BAH. Did you ask what reg their siting?
@@jasonburds No, I didn't know, so I didn't ask. I guess I should had because my counselor said I only qualify for the school stipend and not for BAH. Sucks.
@@jasonburds "As of right now you don’t have Ch.33 entitlement time. In order for you to be entitled to Ch.33 BAH rate you must have at least 1 day of entitlement time. You qualify for Ch.31 rate at a base pay of $723.56." This is what she said. I don't know if she's right or not, I'm just assuming she is and I'm not getting BAH. Sucks.
@@meej6452 ya, that's what I figured. You're still getting the VR&E BAH. You just don't get to choose the greater amount anymore, which is normally the default
@@jasonburds So what I'm getting in $733 is the VR&E BAH? This way I can understand and not bother my counselor anymore waiting for 5 weeks for her to respond. Also, thank you so much for responding to me in such a timely manner. My counselor lives in the same city as me and I don't hear from her for weeks asking simple questions.
I have 18+ months left of GI bill if I switch to VR&E will I lose the rest of my months?
Nope. I switched over with 35 months left of GI Bill. It's still there.
Is the monthly stipend only paid if you’re in school?
For this track, yes. It's the same as GI Bill in that sense. However, after graduation you may be eligible to receive it for 2 additional months while you look for employment.
Can you use the VR&E benefit for college while simultaneously using the Post 9/11 for a Part 141 flight school?
I haven't been able to find a specific answer, but based on my experience with VR&E, I would say it's unlikely.
I'm curious about your journey and how it's going. Why not use VR&E for a school with a degree program in Aviation? I have my Private Pilot License/Cert and I plan to utilize the Long-Term track to hopefully foot the bill to get me into the Aviation industry as a pilot.
will I be able to receive any type of bah while groin g to school for this program ? tia
Yes. There is a stipend.
I’ve only used 5 months of my gi bill am I still eligible for this or how does this work exactly
Absolutely! I used 2 months of my GI Bill then started using VR&E.
The application process is a bit lengthy, so I'll make a more detailed video on it.
What GPA do you have to maintain to keep VRE funding?
I understand it to be the same as the GI Bill. You have to maintain at least a 2.0.
@@jasonburds thank you so much! Also, your videos are a lifesaver lol
@@Magicianbrooke thank you man! Tell your friends! Trying to get to 10k this year. I would really appreciate the help.
bro where were you in 07 when i got out haha
Lol. A lot has changed since then.
This is partially incorrect.
Which part..?
Do you get Bah and or bas? Kind of confused on this topic
Yes you do. There is a VR&E rate and GI Bill rate. If you're eligible for GI Bill still, you'll get to choose which you want. GI Bill rate is typically higher. If you've used all your GI Bill, you'll get the VR&E rate.
@@jasonburds you’re awesome. Thanks
I went to voc rehab and said I wanted to not use my g.i. bill and they said no and to use my g.i. bill and to come back to them when my g.i. bill is almost up. Should i report these people for fucking me?
This was only recently updated. 2020 if I recall correctly.
@@jasonburds Roger that. I appreciate the prompt reply.
VRE bill pay bah
Sure does.
so why are people int he military or stransition is hard on gi bill instead of this? im using gi bill...hmm
Great question. Not everyone gets a 10% rating. It's not a guaranteed part of an honorable exit, so it's not as widely pushed.
Sorry to be late to the party (9 months late). I was wondering if I utilized chapter 33(GI Bill) for BAH while using chapter 31(VR&E) to pay for tuition, does it exhaust my GI Bill in anyway. Would greatly appreciate feedback on the question.
Chapter 31 comes with BAH. You don't need to use chapter 33 at the same time (you can't get double BAH).
@@jasonburds I called the VA about Vet Tech several months ago and the guy told me you can double dip VRE and GI Bill at the same time. I didn't have time to dig for details right then (I should have) but I'm going to ask around about that. It doesn't sound right but if I find out it's true I'll report back.
@@morganellabean definitely keep me posted. They're usually pretty good about closing double BAH loopholes. The only one I know of is if both spouses are in the military. Even then, I've heard of them trying to shut that down.
@@jasonburds They're policing BAH for dual military spouses?!? That's insane. How do they decide which service member loses their BAH entitlement? My ex and I both got BAH but that was 8-10 years ago. I'd be irate if they took that away from one of us because we were married.
@@morganellabean they haven't successfully. I just heard at one point they were considering it. But I think they probably realized the same things you're mentioning.
well looking for a way to get that disability now lol
It's there for those that rate it. But too many people try to con it - just don't be that person.
@@jasonburds Exacfly!!!
I have a question. So, I have 19 months left on my GI Bill (33) that expires 31 March 2025. I just enrolled in a trade school that starts at the end of this month - 1 year long.
Hypothetical - Lets say that I was approved for VRE prior to start date (again hypo). I read somewhere that I have an option to get the housing allowance from my GI Bill because its higher, even tho Im using VRE. Can you confirm that? Then I may have a follow up question or too. Thank you kindly BTW for what you do helping us out.
Got to you quicker on IG! Thanks for reaching out!
Great video. I found the answer I want in this video. I have 23 months post 911 gibill entitlement left. I qualify for VR&E. I know there are 2 housing allowance to choose for VR&E. Which one should I choose if I want to save my 23 months post911 entitlement for future? I plan to go to online school for IT. I want to save 911 gibill for campus class.
60% disabled and just got denied for chpt 31
what was the reasoning? 60% doesn't really mean anything. All that matters is what your rating(s) are for, how your current employment makes them worse and how your desired employment won't... You could be 100% and get denied if those things don't make sense to them.
@@jasonburds I haven't received the letter yet with the reason why just the phone call from the counselor telling me she didn't approve me. Issues are PTSD, degenerative disk disease and bulging disk in my lower back a degenerative disk disease in neck along with headaches. I currently work in a warehouse so on my feet all the time minus breaks
@@dustinmills5939 what were you trying to go into?
@@jasonburds I'm wanting to get my home inspection license and start my own business. The counselor told me the school that offers the training is a chpt 31 school
@@dustinmills5939 is not a chapter 31 school? That makes sense. I've been trying to get real estate appraising approved for about a year. I imagine it's similar issues.