Sony ZV-1: S-Cinetone
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2021
- I hope this video helps any of you who have been hoping for S-Cinetone in your Zv-1s, E-10s and Sony B-cams. After some trial and error I have come up with a profile that closely represents S-cinetone in the ZV-1. Please let me know if you would do any modifications to the custom PP I setup.
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S-Cinetone custom picture profile secret recipe
Pp10
Black level -12
Gamma - Cine2
Black Gamna - range middle - level -5
Knee - mode - manual
Color mode - Still
Saturation -0
Color Phase -2
Color depth - R+2, G +1, B-2, C 0, M +1, Y 0
Detail Level -7
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Have you tried this setting out and are you happy with the results? If you would like to see more videos like this one like and subscribe!
Brother, I can't even tell the difference between the two profiles. You've absolutely nailed it. Well done. I also bought a Sony ZV-1 as a secondary cam, with the intention of getting a full frame. But then I realized that story is king and I have everything I need right now to tell the stories I want to and build the skill w/ the ZV-1 as my primary, and then use those skills to maximize full frame in the future :) thanks for helping me with those skills!
You're killing it with you channel bro. As a small youtube who just got a ZV-1 your content has been so valuable. Thank you!
Just in time. Yesterday I bought the ZV1 as a B Cam to my FX3 and this is great news. I'll try the settings myself. Thanks for sharing and keep the ZV1 content coming.
I had been using another mock cinetone from another channel but this is just so much better as you showed how it’s exactly similar to the real one. Perfect/. Thanks
1 year with the ZV-1 - But this video has saved me days of experimentation that I don't have the patience, or the perhaps the skill, to perform myself. Well done, Mr Educator. The ZV-1 may be a small pond, but you are its biggest fish.
Dang, that was motivating Thanks for all the support:)
This is awesome. Blown my mind away. You are a master of ZV1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You have nailed this profile!! Thanks so much for doing the hard work in making this profile. I'd recently purchased a Sony ZV-E10 to use as a light weight camera on real estate shoots. I'd used HLG-3 on my first couple of shoots and struggled with the exposure and colour grading. I was starting to regret my purchase, but after using your profile I'm loving shooting with the ZV-E10 now. You've made life so much easier for me!!
I used your profile today for the first time on two shoots and I have just finished editing them. They both look great straight out of camera with minimal grading to do. Just enough dynamic range to pull in the windows as these often have to be let go a little. It works great!! Thanks so much. Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!!
My pleasure
Man, been struggling to match my a7siii with my zv1 for months using slog2, slog3, hlg, etc. this works perfectly as long as you nail white balance. Thank you. I’ll definitely do a video and give you a shout out. I barely have any subs or viewers, but I want to give credit where credit is due.
How do you set WB when shooting outside? Do you go auto or ?
Good stuff Joe! I agree with other viewers, ZV-1 is indeed a Swiss Army knife of photo and video tools. You keep coming up with great ideas for content… It’s appreciated!
Thanks Mike, I’m out of ideas now haha
@@thefilmalliance i’m sure you will come up with lots more great ideas! My problem is that I have more ideas than I do energy and time. 😂
I was waiting for it! I knew that you would fix the levels more precisely than the last video about S-Cinetone :)
Awesome tutorial as always, thank you so much !
Thanks Mirco, my pleasure. Yes you were right. This comment motivates me.
@@thefilmalliance the a7Siii is gonna be my next camera, but it's early for me that I'm a beginner and it's too expensive for me right now. The zv-1 is a little monster and you can barely see the difference, of course just with these fixes.
Thanks again for sharing. I follow your experiments to improve footage on my ZV-1
Yes, that’s what I love yo hear
I had exactly the same issue with my A7siii and ZV1….thanks for sorting that issue out for me!!
You are very welcome.
Great video. Really enjoying the settings you found
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
GOD TIER CONTENT! Thank you SO much for this!
Wow, that took a lot of experimentation to figure out. Thanks! Great channel BTW.
I must say bigThanks for that video. These settings are incredible on my footages. I keep on watching your videos everyday and they helped me to improve my skills.
Thanks, that’s very nice of you. How do you like your Zv1?
@@thefilmalliance I applied the settings to ZV-e10
Oh haha, (I forgot that you could do that) how do you like your Zve10 then?
@@thefilmalliance I really like the ZV-E10. I bought the camera + 3 lenses. I should have waited the ZV-E1 for best stabilisation :)
You are the man I am impressed with every video you do great audio great transitions great video a true inspiration good job man keep up the good work. I’ll keep up with the thumbs up and sharing
Thank you, Im happy your getting value from these videos. And thanks for the nice words. I appreciate it
"The Game" the documentary thumbnail is pretty nice. Good job .
You nailed it. Great observation
Was about to say the same thing.
This not being the top comment is disappointing 😂
This is excellent :D I never realised how much I hate the standard colours until I did this and then looked at the photos! I have put this on both my ZV1s now :D
Hey bro such a great and to the point video! Also digging the (The Documentary) inspired thumbnail thats what made me watch this video much love from Australia
Hey there, thank you so much for all of this motivation. It is very encouraging. Do you have the Sony Zv1?
Very useful thank you. Colour correcting/grading 😩, anything to help is a bonus so will check out that profile. 👌🏾👌🏾
I bought a zv-1 with a bad cpu kept shooting in pink. It happened just as i finished all your zv-1 videos I can't wait to buy a good one to use these tips man. Super excited for it and thanks again for the vids 📹.
Wow, that’s incredible. Kept shooting in pink is crazy. So you contacted Sony and they had you send it back? Sorry that happened to you.
@@thefilmalliance yep, mailing it back this week for a new one. Seems to be a fried cpu chip causing the issues. Any news on the zv e10 release date?
My new Zv1 just arrived I'm gonna start shooting with it tomorrow after learning the settings from your videos and buying a new Sd card.
Thanks a lot. As always, very useful video to match Sony A7SIII Cinetone and ZV1. I will try it out very soon.Moreover, I think that ZV1 can easily replace "A" camera in certain tricky conditions difficult to manage with.
I agree. It’s a great little camera
Bro, as a beginner UA-camr, I appreciate your videos and help. Liked, Subbed ✅
Welcome aboard!
I just finished matching my A7C with my FX3. Decided to do my ZV-1. Found your video, but the video thumbnail made me pick your video out of all of them.... That's some real "G" stuff....lmao! Thanks for this informative video bro!!
Glad I could help! haha thanks for noticing the thumbnail
Bro, I paid your "fee" when I watched your comprehensive picture profile video on the ZV-1. LOL! Thanks so much for your time and effort in producing these videos!
Wow. Thank you so much 😊
I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks for sharing.
no problem! do you have the zv1?
@@thefilmalliance yes I bought 1 used a few months ago. I haven't used it much. My hands are too shaky. Lol. That's why I love my Osmo Pockets and Fimi Palm even their image isn't as good as the ZV-1. I'm going to use it for more locked of shots and b roll until I can work out the stability issues.
You’re a genius 🥳
Love your content. 🙏🏼
Thanks, thats very nice of you
Always awesome, informative content! Thanks
Thank you so much. I am glad that it helps. Do you have the Sony ZV-1?
@@thefilmalliance I do. I have 2 as B cams now. I started a UA-cam channel not knowing a single thing about AV with one as my A cam and you were unbelievably helpful throughout this process. I now have a Sony A7iv as my A cam and 2 ZV1s. I’m a knuckle dragger that’s come a long way and I have you to thank for a lot of it. Your videos are appreciated and helpful. If you’re ever in the DC area, you and your fam are welcome to come jump in a Medical or gun course. I have you covered.
@@thefilmalliance while we’re primarily a gun channel we do a podcast on Fridays. If you’re interested I’d love to have you on just to talk about your YT journey, AV, and marketing. Im not sure of your politics on firearms or if you want to stay away from that to keep from alienating any segment of your audience, be happy to accommodate either way but I think it’d be fun to talk with you. -Gary
It is a detailed study, wow!
Thank you, I created a video on picture profiles, have you seen that one?
@@thefilmalliance
Which video? Please tell me the URL
extremely helpful thank you
Incredible! thank you!
Thanks for that. Thanks for all the support:)
Very informative 👍🏻 I will try it with my ZV1 👌 normally I film with my fx6 in slog and not in S-Cinetone. Actually I film with the ZV1 in PP10 HLG and the picture looks excellent too. I finished two short holiday clips and I am very satisfied with the small ZV1 😀 best cinematic greetings from a still little german YT filmmaker
That’s good to know thank you
So far, I've been using the HL-3 picture profile and very satisfied; however, should I need to match to S-Cinetone, this was a great tutorial. Thanks!
thanks for the vid. u were getting a thumbs up anyway but had to give it to u right away with that thumbnail! a classic album
Haha thanks. I agree. I’m so happy you picked up on that
Thank you so much for this
Thank you, Im happy your getting value from these videos
Excellent as always! As a brand new ZV-1 user this channel is essential! Still blown away with the image quality of the ZV-1. I have the Canon EOS M50 and I love it, but I'm actually wondering if the ZV-1 might be my A-cam for a lot of scenarious. Anyway, I'm sure they will complement each other once I've tuned them to decently match each other colour wise!
Yes great observation I agree. Just please pack some extra batteries
@@thefilmalliance Yes! Good advice! It's a must!
Already bought a charger and three batteries! Also bought a screen protector and a filter adapter ring (52 mm) with a UV-filter and a lens cover. Will get the Ulanzi 18mm wide angle/10x macro 2-in-1 additional lens and a cage soon, probably from SMALLRIG. Thinking of getting the JJC 2-in-1 shooting handle with a removable wireless remote control in the future as well. :)
Amazing
Thank you for yet another great video on the ZV1. I have learned much from your videos. Could you give any recommendations for settings on the ZV1 for everyday vlogging? I tend to find the shutter priority to be the best handy and aperture and ISO on auto. If I want blurry background I use the Defocus mode with C1 function key. I will try your picture profile settings for future vlogging setup.
I have just tested your setting out and have noticed that dark areas or black clothes solarize heavily. I think it's because the black value has been lowered too much. If you set the black level to 0, it can be reduced in post-production without any loss. but the color representation is very pleasant, you bother the rest of your settings. Thanks Potter
Did I miss how you “save” and “create a custom name”? Thanks for sharing this! 👊🏼
Thank you!
You’re welcome
Excellent video
Thank you, Im happy your getting value from these videos
Thank you, gonna try it with my rx100vi
Great call. Ok, please let me know how it goes
Thank you so much from Sri Lanka
Cool, cheers from the US
Excellent! Solved 1 of my problems.
thanks! do you have the zv1?
@@thefilmalliance Yes I do. I have both the ZV1 and A7SIII. I found it difficult to match colors between the 2 in post when using Cinetone with A7SIII. Your tutorial helped a lot.
Must admit was waiting for this video. Thanks, another great one! Just tested these settings on my zv1, and for the purpose of using with sony a7iii (I don’t have this camera 🥺🥺)maybe it’s great but in comparison to hlg3 on zv1 hlg3 looks much better according to my taste and eye ;)
Yes I agree however If your viewer watches HLG on the wrong monitor, everything looks over exposed. Have you experienced this?
@@thefilmalliance that only happens when you export in hdr gamut - and yes that is wrong approach. However if you choose standard colours library in fcpx and then use hdr tools to convert the hdr footage to 709 then you got great colours and universal footage for all monitors and phones. Then it’s the same for everybody and looks the best
@@RafalGendarz that’s right. You told me that last time. I am a slow learner:). Thank you for the info!
Great video - Thank you. Any chance you could check the settings that should be used on the new Sony ZV E-10? Once again thanks
it works well. nice!
Nice job, i'm looking for that ! 👍
Thats very kind of you
@@thefilmalliance I have been following you for a little while and you really do an excellent job see you ✌️
Cool! Thanks!
Easily the best ZV-1 content on UA-cam! Thanks for all these awesome tutorials.
Question: I really don't want to spend much time color grading footage. Will these settings (with a little bit of basic grading you mention) really look that much better than the picture profiles straight-out-of-camera? (I guess I need to experiment!)
I'm really struggling whether all these custom profiles are worth it, when the PP1[movie] looks pretty good, or PP6[Cine2] works pretty well also.
Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. Yes, the settings will look better than the picture profiles, straight out of camera.
thanks again! :)
Great video - May I ask if this could be applied to the ZV-E10 as well? That should also be on Sony's new color science. Thanks!
impressive!!!!
Thanks, thats very nice of you
Thank you for these settings. I am new with the zv-1 and I am learning a lot from your video. Just a question in Final Cut Pro which profile? Still HLG3 as per your previous video?
This is fantastic mate! I'm going to add this to my ZV-1. Quest Question, how does this perform in low light with this picture profile? Cheers
You nailed it, but I'll still keep using HGL2.
Thanks for this! Works great on my zv e 10. I also find it is great for photos. Have you tried? What do you think?
this is awesome ! the best scinetone for the zv1! one question: you set knee to manual with what value? pp 10 had 100% with slope to +5, is that right ?
Genius! 🤯👍🏻
Thanks Lee, I really appreciate it.
True MASTER!!!! Very nice work... is the A7III the same modification to make it similer to S-Cinetone
Thank you! I’m not sure I haven’t tried it. It may need some fine tuning.
Awesome video, any recommendations for a variable ND filter that fits the ulanzi lense?
I’m still looking but will let you know. I really appreciate that. Thank you
Initially i setup HLG 3 in accordance with ur video but i think S cine tone is much greater the HLG 3
Thank you ZV-1 master!!! Would it be a good idea to bump up the detail level closer to 0 if I wanted a sharper image? If I didn't want to add it in post?
Bravo
I really appreciate that. Thank you
Hi, Joe! Your videos are terrific! The Sony ZV-1 is my First real camera in years. Can I use this picture profile as the default for taking pictures and videos? I mainly want to take pictures and videos of my dog and nature scenes
Would also like to know this, going on a vacation to spots that don't allow a DSLR so just got this camera and going through videos/settings. I've never color graded so wondering if I should shoot in this PP or just use A Priority when shooting to keep it simple.
Thanks for this content! does this setting perform well with skin tones?
Yes, it absolutely does.
Hi do you have s cinetone for zve10? thanks great video
I am trying to match my ZV1 to my A7III for S-Cinetone…Could I use the same settings for both?.
Hi Jo. While taking my ZV1 with your S cinetone setting, I had a look on other UA-camrs and their ideas for emulating S Cinetone. They had roughly the same values as your exceipt the Color mode : Still for you; Pro for them. I went to the ZV-1 manual to understand the difference but read that Still gives adapted Colors when Gamma is set to Still » Does it mean that Still is Color Mode does not work if Gamma is not set to Still ? I see a difference on the footage when I check each, but can’t really assess which one is most « S ciné » looking
Hey Joe, are you still using the ZV-1 these days? Are there any changes you made to this "S-Cinetone" like PP10? Thanks for putting in the work!
Great work! Will this work for the A7III the same?
I just asked the same question!!.. Let's see what he says....
So I just put those specs in my sony a6400. Did you use any type of Lut in your edting software.. Mind you I have DaVinci Ressolve Studio.
Will these settings work with my Sony A7C?
One more thing is there a video for M2? The menu looks different for the M2
Hi there. I have the zv1 and would like to edit the 4k video. I plan to buy a pc, but realize graphics cards are quite expensive. Do I need a graphics card if I am not going to colour grade?
and the A7III is the same settings???
Hello Friend and thanks for the video, I ask you this Set Up can also be used for the Sony is it for the ZV e 10? thanks in advance ...
I don't know yet I haven't tried it, If you try it let me know!
@@thefilmalliance OK thank you very much
Do you have a ZV-1 and GoPro match-up for video?
(EDIT: GoPro 10 and/or 11)
What audio interface and mix
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Excellent video! But May I know what are the values for manual set knee?
I’m not sure I understand. Did you follow every step? Did I miss something?
@@thefilmalliance I followed everything. But when you set the "Knee" to manual, what is the value in the "Manual set" under Knee submenu? Not sure how to phrase it lol.
@@faidzjalil i have the same question. Mine is set to Point:100% and Slope:+5, but is this the way i should be
@@thefilmalliance You say set knee to manual but when you do that you need to manually set it below or it could be locked on almost anything
You can try 100% and 0 slope for a start.
This version is pretty good and it looks similar applied to Rx100v and A7iii
On the A7Siii I actually don't usually use it in favour of sLOG3 as there's lot of support in the form of LUTs etc for that out there.
@@thefilmalliance I would also like to know if you changed the settings under the Manual Set submenu. There's a couple other videos on creating S-Cinetone for the ZV-1, and in those videos, they changed the settings. Unsure what these do.
Shame Sony won’t just add it in a firmware update for both the ZV-1 and the A7III
Yes it’s to bad
Yeah, but then some will not buy the A7S III...
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Thanks for all the support:)
Brother what is the best camera for videography and content creation when it comes to natural cinematic colour.. without the need of editing or Colour grade it on software editor. Like i just prefer a camera where I can set the perfect settings and shoot then upload it on social media without colour grading.
So I think the first question we have to ask is, what are you primarily shooting?
@@thefilmalliance for cinematic sport/wild short vlogs reels. I might buy Sony fx30 but still not sure brother. I trust you. That’s why I’m here.
Do you shoot Auto white balance outdoors?
Yes. Are you experiencing any issues?
does this also apply to the zv e10?
I would say yes
How is this with skin tones?
Hi Deb, It is great! Way better than skin tones straight out of camera
Paid the fee! 😂 How do you expose with this setting BTW? Over or under? Zebra level?
Great question from a diligent student. I exposed 0.0. Not above or below
What is cinetone? I bought ZV1M2 for personal family videos. What would be the benefit of this? I am a complete amateur
Hey Alex, S-Cinetone is a color matrix that was first introduced in Sony's professional cinema camera lineup and has now been incorporated into their consumer and prosumer camera models. It is designed to deliver rich colors and natural skin tones while retaining ample latitude for post-production flexibility. I think it would work well for what you're doing. You can look up my cine 2 Picture profile that works in the ZV-1 mark 2 as a good S-Cinetone alternative.. Its in the description of my recent video the ZV-E10 II vs the ZV-E10
@@thefilmalliance thank you for taking the time to respond
If it works for you, it will fly for me
Unfortunately there is so little Zv-1 information in German
I dont care abou tthis camera but clicked on this because I love The Game lol
Haha