Both the boy and the girl sort of figured it out intuitively: the speed at which you plie and enter the turn. A pirouette is an athletic "explosive" movement, so it makes no sense to pause or "gather oneself" beforehand. I don't think it's too common to emphasize this, but even this young boy realizes it. He goes immediately from the plie, while the girl does the "double plie," because her body (everyone's) wants to do it the same as the boy did (standard athletic stretch reflex), but maybe she got used to a slower preparation somewhere along the line. I think you see this often in females. It's the equivalent of taking a small plie before your "main plie" for a jump; there's no real point to it, unless you're trying to fill time. Many combinations have too much music for each turn, until you're doing several pirouettes, so most people [beginners] consciously slow down the whole process, maybe to detriment. It's like teaching someone to throw a baseball. You can show stills of the important positions, but you can't do the whole movement slowly. Olympic weightlifting is another example. Even when they're warming up with light weights, they keep a high speed, because it's simply intrinsic to the technique. If there was better cross-talk between dance, exercise science, physics, maybe dancers would improve faster.
Thank You for explaining the plies part of the danseur... it got a lot easier for me as a guy. I always focused too much on my form during plies which then ended up having a slanting pirouette... ok.. perfect prep posture followed by a quick plies and bounce up to releve... got that.. thank you sire! and dude!
i can't really spot when i do pirouettes...i try to spot but i just can't turn my head fast enough and i always can't find the same spot to focus on...also, i am stuck on doing 1 to 1 3/4 turns...i just can't make 2 and more...heellllpppp!!!
Actually men are pretty capable of pointe work.. but like i said on one of my replies to anstarr24, danseurs are expected to have higher leaps and faster pirouettes therefore professionally restricting them to use pointe shoes during performances.. some train en pointe for stronger ankles and caffs(for lifts) and balance(for pirouettes).. and if an all-men ballet show comes along, danseurs do train en pointe...
@livelovedance94 oh, yay a question i can answer lol ^^ It's from the Palladio suite by Karl Jenkins. But be warned, any cellists who play this will find it dull and uninteresting (just in case). Though the end product sounds lovely
SO true.. if you're a contemporary or jazz dancer and a guy tells u he is a danseur(male ballet dancer).. you'd go "wow.. he must be good"... but for regular people, the reply would usually be "are you gay??" lol
Sometimes you don't have a choice about how long you can stay in 4th. The choreography may have you holding longer then you'd like before you can pop up into your pirouette. What are you gonna do then? You're going to hold on to your core and your tendu and work that technique for all it's worth and pull off a proper pirouette, little mister!
One of the reasons may be simply a physical thing- men are heavier than women ( particularly ballerinas) and so the weight on a man's toes would be too much- but also the whole aesthetic of ballet, during most of its history, has traditionally been pretty conservative regarding gender roles- ie the men are muscular and more 'grounded', while the women are light as air- emphasised by their work up on pointe and their being held and lifted high into the air by the men.
@punkett95 first of all you have been doing ballet for one month... you should start in 1 year.... and you never call a pirouette a spin, it is a pirouette.
Yes and No.. yes because danseurs(male ballet dancers) are never restricted to training en pointe to strengthen their ankle and caffs(for lifts) and balance(for grand pirouettes).. in fact, in my experience, a real boredom-breaker for danseurs in ballet classes, where advance level females wear pointe shoes almost all the time. But since men are expected to have higher leaps and quicker pirouettes, wearing pointe shoes is a BIG NO.. except when an all-men ballet show is gon' be performed...
@itsrandomfriends What your doing is called an inverted pirouette. Its not wrong, but it is not the standard pirouette. Try spinning the correct way so you can improve your technique :)
Okay, why does it matter how he tells his friends? If he makes any good choices in friends, they'll understand. Furthermore not all male dancers are gay. Check out the movie/musical Billy Elliot.
Both the boy and the girl sort of figured it out intuitively: the speed at which you plie and enter the turn. A pirouette is an athletic "explosive" movement, so it makes no sense to pause or "gather oneself" beforehand. I don't think it's too common to emphasize this, but even this young boy realizes it. He goes immediately from the plie, while the girl does the "double plie," because her body (everyone's) wants to do it the same as the boy did (standard athletic stretch reflex), but maybe she got used to a slower preparation somewhere along the line.
I think you see this often in females. It's the equivalent of taking a small plie before your "main plie" for a jump; there's no real point to it, unless you're trying to fill time. Many combinations have too much music for each turn, until you're doing several pirouettes, so most people [beginners] consciously slow down the whole process, maybe to detriment. It's like teaching someone to throw a baseball. You can show stills of the important positions, but you can't do the whole movement slowly. Olympic weightlifting is another example. Even when they're warming up with light weights, they keep a high speed, because it's simply intrinsic to the technique. If there was better cross-talk between dance, exercise science, physics, maybe dancers would improve faster.
It's a trampoline effect!
Love your breakdown!
Thank You for explaining the plies part of the danseur... it got a lot easier for me as a guy. I always focused too much on my form during plies which then ended up having a slanting pirouette... ok.. perfect prep posture followed by a quick plies and bounce up to releve... got that.. thank you sire! and dude!
that boys turning is beautiful
Oh that's right, that would make sense, thank you for explaining
Thank you sooo much!! This really is helping me!
Love the way kid's legs look like
What a great teacher!! :)
Hey, Charlie! Nice video! Very informative!
@rainynight3L33 Actually it's Palladio by Karl Jenkins.
I see, that makes sense and that's very interesting. Thanks for sharing :]
@LadyLulu96 Allegretto by Bond . Except this version is different.
i can't really spot when i do pirouettes...i try to spot but i just can't turn my head fast enough and i always can't find the same spot to focus on...also, i am stuck on doing 1 to 1 3/4 turns...i just can't make 2 and more...heellllpppp!!!
what is th music in the backround???!!
Actually men are pretty capable of pointe work.. but like i said on one of my replies to anstarr24, danseurs are expected to have higher leaps and faster pirouettes therefore professionally restricting them to use pointe shoes during performances.. some train en pointe for stronger ankles and caffs(for lifts) and balance(for pirouettes).. and if an all-men ballet show comes along, danseurs do train en pointe...
Do guys do pointe work?
The song is called palladio, I have a video of it on my channel :)
@livelovedance94 oh, yay a question i can answer lol ^^
It's from the Palladio suite by Karl Jenkins. But be warned, any cellists who play this will find it dull and uninteresting (just in case). Though the end product sounds lovely
@livelovedance94 Its called paladio
that one boy is awesome :)
Omg! Young patrick :))
SO true.. if you're a contemporary or jazz dancer and a guy tells u he is a danseur(male ballet dancer).. you'd go "wow.. he must be good"... but for regular people, the reply would usually be "are you gay??" lol
Yup.
Sometimes you don't have a choice about how long you can stay in 4th. The choreography may have you holding longer then you'd like before you can pop up into your pirouette. What are you gonna do then? You're going to hold on to your core and your tendu and work that technique for all it's worth and pull off a proper pirouette, little mister!
Palladio by Escala.
@GLUTEN88 Wow. I guess the people I said it was copied the song. Thanks.
One of the reasons may be simply a physical thing- men are heavier than women ( particularly ballerinas) and so the weight on a man's toes would be too much- but also the whole aesthetic of ballet, during most of its history, has traditionally been pretty conservative regarding gender roles- ie the men are muscular and more 'grounded', while the women are light as air- emphasised by their work up on pointe and their being held and lifted high into the air by the men.
@livelovedance94 I really want to know it too!!!
The guy reminds me of Kurt off of glee in the face :)
@punkett95 first of all you have been doing ballet for one month... you should start in 1 year.... and you never call a pirouette a spin, it is a pirouette.
Yes and No.. yes because danseurs(male ballet dancers) are never restricted to training en pointe to strengthen their ankle and caffs(for lifts) and balance(for grand pirouettes).. in fact, in my experience, a real boredom-breaker for danseurs in ballet classes, where advance level females wear pointe shoes almost all the time. But since men are expected to have higher leaps and quicker pirouettes, wearing pointe shoes is a BIG NO.. except when an all-men ballet show is gon' be performed...
some guys do to strengthen their ankles
0:31 ooomg he looks like kurt from glee !
@livelovedance94 i think its explosive by bond
@itsrandomfriends What your doing is called an inverted pirouette. Its not wrong, but it is not the standard pirouette. Try spinning the correct way so you can improve your technique :)
@livelovedance94 Palladio.
No
@ZZZ99913 i have the same problem!!!!
nice o -o;
Okay, why does it matter how he tells his friends? If he makes any good choices in friends, they'll understand. Furthermore not all male dancers are gay. Check out the movie/musical Billy Elliot.
my dream is to marry a guy who dances ballet too. is so sexy! hahahaha :(
I think that the boy need to work on his hands!
PVP SAAAN
I didn't think so, why don't they anyways? Is it because it's just too feminine? o-o