FX9: WHY IT'S THE MOST VERSATILE CINEMA CAMERA EVER
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2020
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Lumix GH5. I can afford it, haha.
fx9 is fantastic but I can't connect with that sony color. I would have to say 1DXMk2. 4k60p, Really gradable codec, quick AF, and great build quality.
@@krishnayalla676 Sony Colour is way different on this new line of cameras. Also the A7III has gotten a boost for colour usability in the past few years also
@@markbone I'm thinking of switching over to Canon. Currently I use an a6300 it's gotten me far but the competition makes a very compelling case
I don’t know yet, I’m still just a baby, I’d have to say my Canon Rebel T5 because that’s all I know.
The thing that helped me the most about this whole video is seeing you move. I never move and now I see I have to move with my feet to be a Cinematographer/Videographer. Thank you. More BTS please.
Hey man wanted to tell you I appreciate the fact you shot so many black people in this video. A lot of cameras don't think about our skin tones, you showed what the camera can capture and you showed how great you can make it. Thank you
👊🏻👊🏿
Appreciate the picture-in-picture of the behind-the-scene simultaneously displayed with the post-production videos. Thanks.
I will admit I've hated Sony for years, but I did use the FX9 on a shoot not long ago purely because the rental house gave it to me super cheap during lockdown - and I have to say I 100% agree with you about the colours, the codec and the variable ND. All of those features are like.. oof yum.
Totally agree. Bought my FX9 a couple of weeks ago but it’s still amaze every time I turn it on. And even more when I look at the footage. ⭐️
Is it good for narrative short film? Basically i want the film look arri Alexa style
@@smann7236 yes, still have it (along with one FX6 and one FX3). You can absolutely get that look as with most modern cameras shooting log and good exposure. I’m often solo operating my camera and have been actually looking into it: the FX9 serves me much better than Arri mini and mini LF for example. Especially when it comes to external sound sources (XLR inputs) and variable ND-filter. However, the new Arri Alexa 35 seems to be an absolute beast and would be awesome to work with… but the price for that camera is the same as six or seven FX9:s 😄
@@MattiasSkoog cool..thanks for reply. I'm from UK, trying to organise short film production, 35mm and Arri Alexa too expensive here. I found local cameraman who has Sony fx7 and Fx9. I'm really paranoid with the digital look, but looking at the film footage I'm impressed. I like the colours...so I may choose fx9 . Two questions: I'm confused about shooting raw or s-log or cine...do I have to shoot raw to get awesome colours or can I just shoot slog or cine to get film look?
Also what's your opinion on Sony a7 for short film production? Can I still get the film look with that..
@@smann7236 first of all, I would say that lighting and lens choice along with the operators experience and knowledge has a bigger impact than what camera model is used. With that said I think it’s wise to consider the whole package when selecting your gear for the whole project. If a smaller (cheaper) camera body give you the opportunity to rent better lights and lenses and more days to master it, I think you’ll get better result. But, that’s just my two cents. What I do know is that many people (including myself in the beginning) thought that the magic happens in the spec sheet of the camera body. That is simply not the case. I’ve seen crappy footage from the best of cameras and I seen wonderful work from some really basic gear to summon up my thoughts.
@@MattiasSkoog ah okay...that's a good answer...thanks bro... I really appreciate it ... I will take that on board..
Wow, those final images look unreal! Love the camera movements you used to match the subjects.
Well fav camera is whatever i can get in my hand🤗
Lol hey you sound like me. I started my UA-cam channel with my phone got some gigs bought a camera and started my production company from there. Use what you have. I'm with you on that!
@@RobertJohnsonEYT Well i can operate with many cameras but all i am really interested is the feelings of that shot ...currently i got a canon rebel t6(1300d) ...made a couple short films . If you want to have a look ua-cam.com/users/neverdiefilms 😊
I love when you upload. My favorite filmmaking UA-cam channel by far.
this is the first sony camera i've ever really considered. dope vid!
Great video. Just got mine and love it so far.
Hey Mark. Shout out from South Africa. I'm an FX9 owner and I've been watching since your first FX9 video. Always keeping up. So yeah... Keep it up mate.
Yes!! I have lots of South African family. I love your country. Glad you're part of the Fx9 Crew!
This ruled. Can't thank you enough for posting and sharing what you've learned. Also, camera agnostics unite!
Mark , you are the best thing happened to me on UA-cam during this pandemic. 👏 I would like to see a full episode on just shooting commercials !!
🙏🏻 great idea!
wow you finally start to fly high on youtube!! Congrats for your previous video Mark!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Fortunately, BRAW for Blackmagic BMPCC4K/6K cameras is 1/3 the size of ProRes HQ. And it plays well in Resolve. But, I would love to have the FX9, as its one of Philip Bloom's favorites.
Dude I love your perspective you cut through the bs that people make up in their mind based
On status and prestige and get right to the point. At the end of the day you need a high quality file that doesn’t take up you’re whole hard drive
Agreed !!! I’ve had my Fx9 for 2 months now and it’s amazing !
cleannnnnnnnest! The footage was dope! And that colour grade fit perfectly👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 Killed it
Simply amazing and breath taking to say the least. I am a newbie to this arena and I have been doing tons of research and I really appreciate your insight on the FX9. An amazing little beast in a small package at one helluva price.....Thanks!! 😁👍
"Camera agnostic"! wow great phrase!
My fav, is the camera I could afford: canon C200. It's not perfect (no cameras are, or they are $$$ pricey). But I can pretty much get what I want to do done. But:
I wish I had full frame,
I wish I had 4:2:2 10 Bit,
I wish I had 4K slowmo,
I wish I had eye-detect AF,
I wish, I wish, I wish... But in the meantime, I still can get some filming done ;-)
I love the c200 but not having 10 bit sucks
@@chrisa8682 Big time! (Ninja V's your best friend...)
Can you talk about fx9 settings and color grading. Would love a color grading breakdown.
I can't wait for A7s3 release.
Going to be a good b-cam, special use and also main camera for a lot of people.
Mark, you're a legend!
Great video! I love the authentic opinion and honesty! I've been doing mental gymnastics trying to decide if I should by the FS7 mark II or the Fx9----and I think this video has swayed me to the Fx9.
just randomly found your channel! keep creating! sending positive vibes from Scarborough !!
sending some GTA love!
I would say any camera as far as you've got the right idea, that said your footage looks great Mark. Thanks for a constant inspiration to create better and better contents😉
Awesome! I couldn't agree more with the RAW codec perspective. I think if you're nailing everything in camera, XAVC in 10 bit 4:2:2 gives you plenty of room to still play around with in the grade! Stoked to see this documentary course come out :)
I love this greenish look
That opening sequence was heat!!!!
Handheld for life brother! love the footage
and thank you for the raw layout. Everyone is hyped but it's almost never needed
Hi Mark.
You are so enthusiastic when he talked about the CX-5.
That it makes me want to have one.
Still have to improve my with my filming technique.
So I believe it's going to take awhile......
Love your video love your content thank thank you
I have cinema dng on my bmpcc4k. BUT. But i dont use it :) Prores and braw more than enought. The strange thing is the next. I like more prores image details over braw. Braw a little bit more flexible but prores just good to. All camera good at this time (mostly) :D I like your FX9...More usable than my pocket rig :D
Awesome info dude!!!!!.... loving the colours in your video! It would be great too see a colour grading tutorial. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
What is your opinion on Sony FX9 vs. Red Komodo?
great video and the images coming off the FX9 are stunning! The whole Canon v Sony fan boy debate is funny, I loved the video by Tony Northrup comparing colour science and in a blind test involving 1,500 people the vast majority voted Sony as having the most pleasing colours and those voters included Canon, Nikon and Fuji fans boys ;)
nice, wish i could afford an fx9 lol, looking forward to your fx9 vs a7siii comparison!
Very good! I noticed in 5:20 there is a lot of electronic noise. I did see it sometimes with the FX9. I wonder if that's a constant issue
Hell yeah, man! Love the footage and content. Peace brother.
What about the image stabilization software??
I just bought BMPCC4K and it's interesting coming from Sony, though I'm waiting for A7S3 or FX6 to return to Sony.
Epic footage man! 👏🏻✨
Why is there no flange back adjustment on the FX9?
Thanks
facts x1000! Enjoyed this review on the fx9!
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Seeing you manually focus pulling with no gear attachment on a 50 1.2 makes me worried. Good job man! please keep making more video.
Living on the edge
The canon xl1 is still my favourite camera and still looks great! After that, maybe the gh4.
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Now I want an fx9! haha
When we used a FS7 with the XAVC I was blow away with how much information it retains, was able to pull down the highlights really far when I thought they were lost.
yeah, when filming Log you can recover highlights insanely well
Great work
I REALLLYYYYY hope they put the S-Cinetone in the A7SIII !!!! It would be a really good stepup camera to the FX9 for many people. Plus the lenses would work on both cameras; no silly adapters
What about Fuji xt4🙋
Thanks for this Mark, I loved shooting on the FX9 too. But I think for me personally the C500 just had a few more ecosystem features I preferred. What I think is crazy is that in this day and age, it's the little things, like ergonomics or button placement etc that separate these cameras (price not withstanding) instead of major feature differences (again for someone who isn't looking to shoot raw all the much). I also think Ecosystem (like apple) plays a much bigger role than it used to. IE if you dig e-Mount lenses over EF you will find better experiences when not using adapters and matching the camera to your lens collection is a big factor. Especially when nearly all cameras create amazing images these days.
But damn that 180 frames makes such a huge difference when not cropped, no joke.
Aaron, this is and will be one of the most sound and logical perspectives about cameras that I may see posted on this video or any of my videos. You're spot on, ecosystem really pushes you to buy the next camera. It's painful to leave an ecosystem, hence while I'm still on a Mac when PC has more horse power for cheaper. Thank you for your perspective, it's a great take.
@@markbone Thank you! Anytime :). Also slight addition to the AVC stigma (it really exists) I think labeling codecs is just a mess in general. AVC and H.264 are interchangeable and were adopted in the name I think due to a licensing agreement with MPEGLA folks. So Sony has their distro named X-AVC- (I,L,S) and Canon their XF-AVC title. They both operate very similarly. H.264 compression on the frames and a choice to be intra frame or long gop. I think this is the biggest disservice, since intra frame codecs make a huge difference in edit-ability and grading to an extent, while the log gop varients can suffer serious quality loss at the lower datarates or with more complex and varied footage. They really are completely different meals, but sony and canon package them like different flavours.
Totally agree. This is a great camera!
You watch videos on 1.5x to 2x! You are my type of person 🙌🏻👌🏻
Looks great! I disagree with your Raw assessment outside of Arri though. I use 16:1 red raw and use less data than shooting ProRes. Same with BM. Having 16 bit color in a decent file size is a major plus.
Very valuable as always ! I'm looking to learn more about "treatment" building, espacially for documentary work ! Would that be something you could make a video about ??
I’m interested to know how you deal with overlapping of roles like directing/ cinematography and what your take on this is. Like, how efficient is it to multitask and when is it maybe even of advantage/ or always a downside? Enjoying your videos!:)
For now i’m shooting videos with a Fuji X-T3 and i’m pretty happy with it... and mostly use the Eterna simulation film on it ;)
Great colours out of that camera but my question is what the heck is the name of this running doc?
Great Video! What are your thought on the Wooden Camera pro kit? I noticed you had that rigged on the FX9. How's the handle etc?
Love your channel and your energy, I really do and that’s why I follow your vibes. However to me Sony is greenish-yellowish (I have Sony cameras) and my EF Lenses are now yearning for the Canon R5 and its IBIS - Full frame c-log 4K 422 at 120p - Variable ND adapter - and autofocus (when needed). We are going back home haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the FX9 though, it’s much appreciated
Great camera!
from a Canon user.. great informative video
Blessings thank you.
Love it dude!!! 🤩
I really like your style!
Great stuff as always
Great video Mark. Just heard you say your from Toronto. I live 45 min away and if you ever need a hand or someone to film bts let me know!
Great work broh.
Hi Mark! Good Job 👍
How do you expose your shots on fx9?
Talking about cameras like talking about religions to some people...I hear you well:) greeting from another FX9 user also in GTA. Great video!
How are you getting such good looking 120p out of the FX9? My tests with it it aliases and the pixel binning looks nasty so I've avoided using it too much. But your 120 looks totally usable. I 100% agree with you. I really have no regrets investing in this guy. It produces some amazing images and I personally LOVE the efficient codec 'cause I don't have the money for all those hard drives. And I'm very camera agnostic myself. I was a Panasonic fanboy for a long time, and still use the GH5. And I love Blackmagic cams. And I love the FX9. Canon's the only brand of the major ones I've not really messed with, oddly. Nothing against em, just never had the chance.
Can you review the V-Raptor when it comes out?
That camera looks awesome is it really expensive? And is AVCHD hard to edit with I have to convert it to MP4 to edit it what is your advice I have a Sony a5000 AMD I want to use AVCHD but it is hard to Figure out
Damn, I love your colours. I'm always struggling to get those blue tints there where they need to be, while maintaining a realistic look and feel.
Shout out to Ontario from vegas if you ever want to collab I can show you around sin city! Great video brother! I got the fs5mkii and an a7riii
Hi Mark - if possible please could you list the kit around your fx9 - i.e. the handle, top plate and shoulder mount etc
I declare myself camera agnostic as well bro haha
Great image - no Anamorphic and still a pain in the ass to use. I’m going Mavo Edge
Is "true RAW" vs. "pseudo-raw" going to be the difference between my stuff being good or bad? Nope. Being camera/brand agnostic is the ideal, though I am specifically watching this because Sony is one of my least favorite brands/approaches, so I'm interested to learn what someone who knows/likes the brand and their approach has to say about their flagship (for the "real world") camera. The files off this camera could absolutely be "good enough" for me, and we shouldn't see "good enough" as somehow a terrible thing when it is a means to the end of executing/completing good projects. I'm not rushing out to buy or even rent this camera, but I'm glad a know a good deal more about how it actually works in the real world. Would love to have that variable internal ND, though!
You know what I've noticed, in actual cinema, cinematic films motion pictures. They effectively never go beyond F2.8 apart from for really specific reasons!. I mean yea this advert/film he made the background wasn't overly blown out so I'm guessing he didn't go beyond f2.8! Next time you watch a film like joker, the Irishman etc look at the backround and you'll notice it's not totally blurred out and gone it's just enough to put attention to the foreground but if you look you can still make out what's happening!. This notion on UA-cam that you have to totally blur and blow out the backround to be cinematic is utter rubbish and just isn't a thing.
i agree. blown out backgrounds isn't usually a thing in cinema where the everything in the background is there for a reason. it'd be crazy to have a great set designer and art team to just blow out the background for the sake of it. These really shallow DOF shots aren't 'cinematic' at all. That's not a dig at this camera - it looks excellent. Just a comment on people wrongly call shallow DOF shots cinematic.
Great video! Beautiful Footage. Are you using a polarizer? Have you had any issues with using it with the variable ND?
Mark, could you please tell me how did you get that ADIDAS/NIKE/APPLE commercial look for that video? I’m looking to get that color grading for so long to no avail. 😭 by the way, you’re killing it! 💯💯💯 ✌🏻 and ❤️
if you shoot 1080p with ff 6k sensor on the fx9 will the footage still look good? my clients dont want 4k video as they cant handle the size and want me to shoot 1080p but i still have the ability to shoot full frame with the 6k sensor. Is that a bad idea ?
I agree, XAVC is fantastic! I also like Prores a lot though and getting Prores Raw through the Shogun 7 seems intriguing. Mark, will you be trying out that combo? Just curious.
What about fx6 ? the project is cancelled ?
Yo bud what's the arm you are using to manipulate your onboard monitor?
Is Sony FX9 still the best camera for documentaries? I'm a pro documentary maker and going to buy a new camera, are now in a camera research face, and feel a little lost...
I’m sure the BM 12K vs FX9 chatter is about to clog up this comment section, but they’re not the same sensor size and use case. I like my FX9 plenty and still get impressed every time I use it. FW 2.0 will be welcomed indeed, but so long as Sony stays on top of feature updates by listening to their customers, it will continue to evolve and get better. The 16-bit RAW update will be nice using the Shogun 7
Shogun 7 caps at 10-bit. It will require Atomos’ new Neon system to do 16-bit RAW.
@@JeremiahBostwick It will get a firmware update once the FX9 update comes, and then you'll get a 12-bit RAW output via SDI on it!
@@Daniel_Sanchez_ I asked Atomos themselves when they would be able to handle 12-bit RAW over SDI like the Ninja V over HDMI.
I'll admit that Atomos' tech support was basically not helpful at all. It took a lot of messaging back and forth and asking the most basic of questions with zero nuance to get a direct response.
But the short answer is he told me that it will require Neon to get anything above 10-bit. I'm not saying that guy was right, because he wasn't exactly helpful.
However even if the Shogun 7 does get 12-bit over SDI that is a HUGE difference from 16-bit (which definitely will require Neon or some future product).
I'd recommend reading Alistair Chapman's comments on the subject. But the short answer is you likely won't notice any difference from 10-bit Log compressed vs 12-bit RAW linear.
It was written specifically about FS5/FS7 RAW, but the principles are the same: www.xdcam-user.com/2017/08/the-pros-and-cons-of-12-bit-linear-raw-or-recording-raw-to-s-log/
If it will allow 12-bit RAW LOG then there will be a meaningful difference in terms of code values and what you'll be able to do with the grade. However true 14-bit or 16-bit linear RAW is an entirely different level in terms of latitude that 10-bit or 12-bit raw can't touch.
Did you have a chance to play with the 28-135mm f/4? I'll be curious to have you opinion. I got my hands on the FX9 last week, it really is a fantastic camera! Love your videos, thanks for sharing!
great camera 🙌🏻
Fx 9 is very cool but you cant beat BRAW at 1200usd - gimbal friendly with a superior image. 2 major reasons to pay for FX9 - fullframe and autofocus. But is it really worth that much more money? Of course its individual. Cant wait to see that A7S3...
"CAMERA AGNOSTIC". New religion? Youve got my attention, continue))
What do you think of the new BM 12K?
Hey Mark,
I LOVED the " a true story?" film you did
was that shot with the fx9?
Fs7 last thing I shot on it!
As someone who enjoys your work, YES, October couldn't come sooner. But as someone that hasn't had much of a summer, October can WAIT! lol #cameraagnostic
Great piece. Can you go over your lenses you pair with the FX9?
Yes I would like to know this too.
I have a Sony FS5M2 looking to upgrade. how is the 2 iso stops? never mentioned that?
precious!
nice review!
question: is there no microstutters while filming handheld?
No gimbal ?