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fx9 is fantastic but I can't connect with that sony color. I would have to say 1DXMk2. 4k60p, Really gradable codec, quick AF, and great build quality.
@@krishnayalla676 Sony Colour is way different on this new line of cameras. Also the A7III has gotten a boost for colour usability in the past few years also
The thing that helped me the most about this whole video is seeing you move. I never move and now I see I have to move with my feet to be a Cinematographer/Videographer. Thank you. More BTS please.
Hey man wanted to tell you I appreciate the fact you shot so many black people in this video. A lot of cameras don't think about our skin tones, you showed what the camera can capture and you showed how great you can make it. Thank you
@@smann7236 yes, still have it (along with one FX6 and one FX3). You can absolutely get that look as with most modern cameras shooting log and good exposure. I’m often solo operating my camera and have been actually looking into it: the FX9 serves me much better than Arri mini and mini LF for example. Especially when it comes to external sound sources (XLR inputs) and variable ND-filter. However, the new Arri Alexa 35 seems to be an absolute beast and would be awesome to work with… but the price for that camera is the same as six or seven FX9:s 😄
@@MattiasSkoog cool..thanks for reply. I'm from UK, trying to organise short film production, 35mm and Arri Alexa too expensive here. I found local cameraman who has Sony fx7 and Fx9. I'm really paranoid with the digital look, but looking at the film footage I'm impressed. I like the colours...so I may choose fx9 . Two questions: I'm confused about shooting raw or s-log or cine...do I have to shoot raw to get awesome colours or can I just shoot slog or cine to get film look? Also what's your opinion on Sony a7 for short film production? Can I still get the film look with that..
@@smann7236 first of all, I would say that lighting and lens choice along with the operators experience and knowledge has a bigger impact than what camera model is used. With that said I think it’s wise to consider the whole package when selecting your gear for the whole project. If a smaller (cheaper) camera body give you the opportunity to rent better lights and lenses and more days to master it, I think you’ll get better result. But, that’s just my two cents. What I do know is that many people (including myself in the beginning) thought that the magic happens in the spec sheet of the camera body. That is simply not the case. I’ve seen crappy footage from the best of cameras and I seen wonderful work from some really basic gear to summon up my thoughts.
I will admit I've hated Sony for years, but I did use the FX9 on a shoot not long ago purely because the rental house gave it to me super cheap during lockdown - and I have to say I 100% agree with you about the colours, the codec and the variable ND. All of those features are like.. oof yum.
Hey Mark. Shout out from South Africa. I'm an FX9 owner and I've been watching since your first FX9 video. Always keeping up. So yeah... Keep it up mate.
Lol hey you sound like me. I started my UA-cam channel with my phone got some gigs bought a camera and started my production company from there. Use what you have. I'm with you on that!
@@RobertJohnsonEYT Well i can operate with many cameras but all i am really interested is the feelings of that shot ...currently i got a canon rebel t6(1300d) ...made a couple short films . If you want to have a look ua-cam.com/users/neverdiefilms 😊
Dude I love your perspective you cut through the bs that people make up in their mind based On status and prestige and get right to the point. At the end of the day you need a high quality file that doesn’t take up you’re whole hard drive
Fortunately, BRAW for Blackmagic BMPCC4K/6K cameras is 1/3 the size of ProRes HQ. And it plays well in Resolve. But, I would love to have the FX9, as its one of Philip Bloom's favorites.
"Camera agnostic"! wow great phrase! My fav, is the camera I could afford: canon C200. It's not perfect (no cameras are, or they are $$$ pricey). But I can pretty much get what I want to do done. But: I wish I had full frame, I wish I had 4:2:2 10 Bit, I wish I had 4K slowmo, I wish I had eye-detect AF, I wish, I wish, I wish... But in the meantime, I still can get some filming done ;-)
Simply amazing and breath taking to say the least. I am a newbie to this arena and I have been doing tons of research and I really appreciate your insight on the FX9. An amazing little beast in a small package at one helluva price.....Thanks!! 😁👍
Great video! I love the authentic opinion and honesty! I've been doing mental gymnastics trying to decide if I should by the FS7 mark II or the Fx9----and I think this video has swayed me to the Fx9.
I would say any camera as far as you've got the right idea, that said your footage looks great Mark. Thanks for a constant inspiration to create better and better contents😉
Hi Mark. You are so enthusiastic when he talked about the CX-5. That it makes me want to have one. Still have to improve my with my filming technique. So I believe it's going to take awhile...... Love your video love your content thank thank you
I have cinema dng on my bmpcc4k. BUT. But i dont use it :) Prores and braw more than enought. The strange thing is the next. I like more prores image details over braw. Braw a little bit more flexible but prores just good to. All camera good at this time (mostly) :D I like your FX9...More usable than my pocket rig :D
Awesome! I couldn't agree more with the RAW codec perspective. I think if you're nailing everything in camera, XAVC in 10 bit 4:2:2 gives you plenty of room to still play around with in the grade! Stoked to see this documentary course come out :)
Thanks for this Mark, I loved shooting on the FX9 too. But I think for me personally the C500 just had a few more ecosystem features I preferred. What I think is crazy is that in this day and age, it's the little things, like ergonomics or button placement etc that separate these cameras (price not withstanding) instead of major feature differences (again for someone who isn't looking to shoot raw all the much). I also think Ecosystem (like apple) plays a much bigger role than it used to. IE if you dig e-Mount lenses over EF you will find better experiences when not using adapters and matching the camera to your lens collection is a big factor. Especially when nearly all cameras create amazing images these days. But damn that 180 frames makes such a huge difference when not cropped, no joke.
Aaron, this is and will be one of the most sound and logical perspectives about cameras that I may see posted on this video or any of my videos. You're spot on, ecosystem really pushes you to buy the next camera. It's painful to leave an ecosystem, hence while I'm still on a Mac when PC has more horse power for cheaper. Thank you for your perspective, it's a great take.
@@markbone Thank you! Anytime :). Also slight addition to the AVC stigma (it really exists) I think labeling codecs is just a mess in general. AVC and H.264 are interchangeable and were adopted in the name I think due to a licensing agreement with MPEGLA folks. So Sony has their distro named X-AVC- (I,L,S) and Canon their XF-AVC title. They both operate very similarly. H.264 compression on the frames and a choice to be intra frame or long gop. I think this is the biggest disservice, since intra frame codecs make a huge difference in edit-ability and grading to an extent, while the log gop varients can suffer serious quality loss at the lower datarates or with more complex and varied footage. They really are completely different meals, but sony and canon package them like different flavours.
Love your channel and your energy, I really do and that’s why I follow your vibes. However to me Sony is greenish-yellowish (I have Sony cameras) and my EF Lenses are now yearning for the Canon R5 and its IBIS - Full frame c-log 4K 422 at 120p - Variable ND adapter - and autofocus (when needed). We are going back home haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the FX9 though, it’s much appreciated
When we used a FS7 with the XAVC I was blow away with how much information it retains, was able to pull down the highlights really far when I thought they were lost.
Looks great! I disagree with your Raw assessment outside of Arri though. I use 16:1 red raw and use less data than shooting ProRes. Same with BM. Having 16 bit color in a decent file size is a major plus.
Mark, could you please tell me how did you get that ADIDAS/NIKE/APPLE commercial look for that video? I’m looking to get that color grading for so long to no avail. 😭 by the way, you’re killing it! 💯💯💯 ✌🏻 and ❤️
Did you have a chance to play with the 28-135mm f/4? I'll be curious to have you opinion. I got my hands on the FX9 last week, it really is a fantastic camera! Love your videos, thanks for sharing!
I’m interested to know how you deal with overlapping of roles like directing/ cinematography and what your take on this is. Like, how efficient is it to multitask and when is it maybe even of advantage/ or always a downside? Enjoying your videos!:)
great video and the images coming off the FX9 are stunning! The whole Canon v Sony fan boy debate is funny, I loved the video by Tony Northrup comparing colour science and in a blind test involving 1,500 people the vast majority voted Sony as having the most pleasing colours and those voters included Canon, Nikon and Fuji fans boys ;)
I REALLLYYYYY hope they put the S-Cinetone in the A7SIII !!!! It would be a really good stepup camera to the FX9 for many people. Plus the lenses would work on both cameras; no silly adapters
Great video. What are your thoughts on the size and weight of the FX9 and it’s versatility for documentary film making? I’m still curious to see what the specifications of a potential FX6 are and which I assume will be a more compact body.
It's heavier that the Fs7, but not heavy enough to become unusable. A bit smaller would have been nice but it fits better on the shoulder because of this. I found the Fs5 too flimsy, I dunno what the Fx6 will be like
Very valuable as always ! I'm looking to learn more about "treatment" building, espacially for documentary work ! Would that be something you could make a video about ??
Even though you are impartial to cameras. You have a lot of Sony bodies even if you pair it with Canon glass. Would you say that the A7SIII excites you more than the Canon R5?
I agree, XAVC is fantastic! I also like Prores a lot though and getting Prores Raw through the Shogun 7 seems intriguing. Mark, will you be trying out that combo? Just curious.
That camera looks awesome is it really expensive? And is AVCHD hard to edit with I have to convert it to MP4 to edit it what is your advice I have a Sony a5000 AMD I want to use AVCHD but it is hard to Figure out
How are you getting such good looking 120p out of the FX9? My tests with it it aliases and the pixel binning looks nasty so I've avoided using it too much. But your 120 looks totally usable. I 100% agree with you. I really have no regrets investing in this guy. It produces some amazing images and I personally LOVE the efficient codec 'cause I don't have the money for all those hard drives. And I'm very camera agnostic myself. I was a Panasonic fanboy for a long time, and still use the GH5. And I love Blackmagic cams. And I love the FX9. Canon's the only brand of the major ones I've not really messed with, oddly. Nothing against em, just never had the chance.
Great looking video. As a FX9 owner myself I was wondering what is your Slog3 experience on the sensor concerning overexposure. I did a lot of test and mostly shoot the camera rated as Iso 400/500 (in based 800 Iso). So basically not pushing the exposure as much as on a Fs7. But what's your experience. :)
Hi pro bro please tell us does panasonic eva-1 12k resolve to the Netflix and does that camcorder has some issues with red light appear or something else and you really awesome we love the way you are god bless
Thanks for the update. Do you use the autofocus of the FX9 a lot for example in this sports shot? Or manual focus most of the time? Looks hard to nail focus when you are running around fast moving objects with that shallow dof!
Is Sony FX9 still the best camera for documentaries? I'm a pro documentary maker and going to buy a new camera, are now in a camera research face, and feel a little lost...
I got a used sony f55 with R7 recorder -16 bit xcon raw, 4k 120- for the same price as the fx9. I think that should be a very real option for people looking in this price range.
The big issue with shooting f55 and f5 is that they are a lot harder to solo operate than the fx9. There is also the codec. Much better high ISO. And autofocus. If you’re going to shoot narrative film, f55 makes a lot of sense. But if you’re a runner gunner, solo op then the fx9 really can’t be beat in this price range.
@@JeremiahBostwick I somewhat agree. I just tested the fx9 vs the f55 and I found the fx9 super fun to use but the extra weight of the f55 acually makes it way more stable ( along with the global shutter) the motion looks a lot better. you can shoot raw with xcon all day so Idk what you mean by codec. Fx9 is definitely cleaner but thats not to say you cant get a clean image out of the f55. Im a solo run and gun operator and still chose the f55 I just like the image out of it way more, thats more important to me, but with that said fx9 I see being the better choice depending on what work you do and what you believe is more important for how you work.
@@andrewskater17 By codec, I was referring to what Mark brought up in the video. It uses XAVC 10-bit 4-2-2 (+LOG). It's a very versatile format and it's data rate is much lower than RAW at I believe around 600 Mb/s. Raw generally is 1500 Mb/s and up which is a lot higher. If you're shooting narrative or doc work where you're accumulating literally hours of footage every day, day in and day out that adds up. This is also not to mention the fact that SxS cards are significantly more expensive than the XQD cards the FX9 uses. The major advantages of the FX9 has over the F55 are numerous, but in short they are: dual native base ISO (800 and 4000), Auto-focus, 15-stops of dynamic range, powerful lightweight intra-frame codec, down-sampled 6k, 180 fps full frame 1080p, 4 channel audio, dual audio recording (you can record the same audio channel at two different audio levels for safety), less expensive media, E-mount (which can then mount virtually any lens cheaply), Venice color science (and vastly improved color science in general). The F55 advantages over the FX9 are primarily global shutter, RAW capability, true cinema fps' (if you really need specifically 24fps and 60fps as opposed to 23.93 and 59.97 as an example) and really that's the end of the list. To me, if you don't need to be shooting in RAW constantly (and I'd personally say the use cases are very small; it's mostly for narrative film with a decent sized budget), the FX9 is going to be a better buy for at least 90% of people. Just the AF and dual-native ISO make it a workhorse that makes an awful lot of sense for working professionals in environments that aren't always lit and where 'anything can happen'. For corporate, wedding, event, doc, and commercial work the FX9 is a shoe in. The F5/F55 are fantastic at narrative, commercial, primarily. But then also okay at shooting doc work provided you have a bigger budget for all of the storage necessary for the footage. At the end of the day, both cameras are fantastic. But to me it's obvious which camera is more versatile. Which was the point of this video. The FX9 without a doubt is one of the most versatile cameras without a doubt. It doesn't mean that other cameras aren't good, especially for specific use cases. But as good as the FX9 is at everything? That's a much harder case to argue.
@@JeremiahBostwick Just saying I'v tried and tested both and I think even with all the bells and whistles the f55 image is way better than the fx9, at least for the work I do. If you're after a super clean image than ya fx9 will get you there, but the f55 is more more organic. I got a whole package with axs cards for around the same price as an fx9. Xcon LT is smaller than xavc so you can get 16bit raw up to 120fps 4k with a global shutter in a smaller package, it's pretty amazing. For wedding's and events ya fx9 is great, but looking at the type of stuff @markbone is filming, with fast motion and whip pans, there is no doubt the f55 w/R7 would look better.. in my opinion.
@@JeremiahBostwick I understand your points and agree, my point is to let people no there might be a better option to consider depending on the type of work they do. Not a lot of people talking about the f55 as it was a 30k camera that came out years ago.
I’m sure the BM 12K vs FX9 chatter is about to clog up this comment section, but they’re not the same sensor size and use case. I like my FX9 plenty and still get impressed every time I use it. FW 2.0 will be welcomed indeed, but so long as Sony stays on top of feature updates by listening to their customers, it will continue to evolve and get better. The 16-bit RAW update will be nice using the Shogun 7
@@Daniel_Sanchez_ I asked Atomos themselves when they would be able to handle 12-bit RAW over SDI like the Ninja V over HDMI. I'll admit that Atomos' tech support was basically not helpful at all. It took a lot of messaging back and forth and asking the most basic of questions with zero nuance to get a direct response. But the short answer is he told me that it will require Neon to get anything above 10-bit. I'm not saying that guy was right, because he wasn't exactly helpful. However even if the Shogun 7 does get 12-bit over SDI that is a HUGE difference from 16-bit (which definitely will require Neon or some future product). I'd recommend reading Alistair Chapman's comments on the subject. But the short answer is you likely won't notice any difference from 10-bit Log compressed vs 12-bit RAW linear. It was written specifically about FS5/FS7 RAW, but the principles are the same: www.xdcam-user.com/2017/08/the-pros-and-cons-of-12-bit-linear-raw-or-recording-raw-to-s-log/ If it will allow 12-bit RAW LOG then there will be a meaningful difference in terms of code values and what you'll be able to do with the grade. However true 14-bit or 16-bit linear RAW is an entirely different level in terms of latitude that 10-bit or 12-bit raw can't touch.
Hi Mr MB. A suggestion for a future topic :-). So for those of us who are considering going from DSLR to "real" video cameras, I would love to see some recommendations as to what to get from the pre owned marked, that might not be the latest teck but will keep up in 2020, and for a lot less money. Your FS 9 footage looks amazing and I would love to jump on that boat! Unfortunately, being a hobby - pro dreamer video dude, At this time, I would not be able to spend that much on a camera, dope it may be, without filing for divorse at the same time :-D. I cant imagine that I am the only one in this situation, so just an idea. Thanx for taking the time making these vids! :-)
This is my dream camera, I feel like the a7siii will be the perfect B cam for it when it comes out, BTW do you need to convert any files after shooting to be able to use them in premiere?
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What is your fav camera of all time? Also, don't forget the first 1000 people who click the link will get 2 free months of Skillshare Premium: skl.sh/markbone4
Lumix GH5. I can afford it, haha.
fx9 is fantastic but I can't connect with that sony color. I would have to say 1DXMk2. 4k60p, Really gradable codec, quick AF, and great build quality.
@@krishnayalla676 Sony Colour is way different on this new line of cameras. Also the A7III has gotten a boost for colour usability in the past few years also
@@markbone I'm thinking of switching over to Canon. Currently I use an a6300 it's gotten me far but the competition makes a very compelling case
I don’t know yet, I’m still just a baby, I’d have to say my Canon Rebel T5 because that’s all I know.
The thing that helped me the most about this whole video is seeing you move. I never move and now I see I have to move with my feet to be a Cinematographer/Videographer. Thank you. More BTS please.
Hey man wanted to tell you I appreciate the fact you shot so many black people in this video. A lot of cameras don't think about our skin tones, you showed what the camera can capture and you showed how great you can make it. Thank you
👊🏻👊🏿
Appreciate the picture-in-picture of the behind-the-scene simultaneously displayed with the post-production videos. Thanks.
Totally agree. Bought my FX9 a couple of weeks ago but it’s still amaze every time I turn it on. And even more when I look at the footage. ⭐️
Is it good for narrative short film? Basically i want the film look arri Alexa style
@@smann7236 yes, still have it (along with one FX6 and one FX3). You can absolutely get that look as with most modern cameras shooting log and good exposure. I’m often solo operating my camera and have been actually looking into it: the FX9 serves me much better than Arri mini and mini LF for example. Especially when it comes to external sound sources (XLR inputs) and variable ND-filter. However, the new Arri Alexa 35 seems to be an absolute beast and would be awesome to work with… but the price for that camera is the same as six or seven FX9:s 😄
@@MattiasSkoog cool..thanks for reply. I'm from UK, trying to organise short film production, 35mm and Arri Alexa too expensive here. I found local cameraman who has Sony fx7 and Fx9. I'm really paranoid with the digital look, but looking at the film footage I'm impressed. I like the colours...so I may choose fx9 . Two questions: I'm confused about shooting raw or s-log or cine...do I have to shoot raw to get awesome colours or can I just shoot slog or cine to get film look?
Also what's your opinion on Sony a7 for short film production? Can I still get the film look with that..
@@smann7236 first of all, I would say that lighting and lens choice along with the operators experience and knowledge has a bigger impact than what camera model is used. With that said I think it’s wise to consider the whole package when selecting your gear for the whole project. If a smaller (cheaper) camera body give you the opportunity to rent better lights and lenses and more days to master it, I think you’ll get better result. But, that’s just my two cents. What I do know is that many people (including myself in the beginning) thought that the magic happens in the spec sheet of the camera body. That is simply not the case. I’ve seen crappy footage from the best of cameras and I seen wonderful work from some really basic gear to summon up my thoughts.
@@MattiasSkoog ah okay...that's a good answer...thanks bro... I really appreciate it ... I will take that on board..
I will admit I've hated Sony for years, but I did use the FX9 on a shoot not long ago purely because the rental house gave it to me super cheap during lockdown - and I have to say I 100% agree with you about the colours, the codec and the variable ND. All of those features are like.. oof yum.
Wow, those final images look unreal! Love the camera movements you used to match the subjects.
I love when you upload. My favorite filmmaking UA-cam channel by far.
this is the first sony camera i've ever really considered. dope vid!
Great video. Just got mine and love it so far.
Hey Mark. Shout out from South Africa. I'm an FX9 owner and I've been watching since your first FX9 video. Always keeping up. So yeah... Keep it up mate.
Yes!! I have lots of South African family. I love your country. Glad you're part of the Fx9 Crew!
Well fav camera is whatever i can get in my hand🤗
Lol hey you sound like me. I started my UA-cam channel with my phone got some gigs bought a camera and started my production company from there. Use what you have. I'm with you on that!
@@RobertJohnsonEYT Well i can operate with many cameras but all i am really interested is the feelings of that shot ...currently i got a canon rebel t6(1300d) ...made a couple short films . If you want to have a look ua-cam.com/users/neverdiefilms 😊
wow you finally start to fly high on youtube!! Congrats for your previous video Mark!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Dude I love your perspective you cut through the bs that people make up in their mind based
On status and prestige and get right to the point. At the end of the day you need a high quality file that doesn’t take up you’re whole hard drive
cleannnnnnnnest! The footage was dope! And that colour grade fit perfectly👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 Killed it
Mark , you are the best thing happened to me on UA-cam during this pandemic. 👏 I would like to see a full episode on just shooting commercials !!
🙏🏻 great idea!
This ruled. Can't thank you enough for posting and sharing what you've learned. Also, camera agnostics unite!
That opening sequence was heat!!!!
Fortunately, BRAW for Blackmagic BMPCC4K/6K cameras is 1/3 the size of ProRes HQ. And it plays well in Resolve. But, I would love to have the FX9, as its one of Philip Bloom's favorites.
Agreed !!! I’ve had my Fx9 for 2 months now and it’s amazing !
"Camera agnostic"! wow great phrase!
My fav, is the camera I could afford: canon C200. It's not perfect (no cameras are, or they are $$$ pricey). But I can pretty much get what I want to do done. But:
I wish I had full frame,
I wish I had 4:2:2 10 Bit,
I wish I had 4K slowmo,
I wish I had eye-detect AF,
I wish, I wish, I wish... But in the meantime, I still can get some filming done ;-)
I love the c200 but not having 10 bit sucks
@@chrisa8682 Big time! (Ninja V's your best friend...)
Mark, you're a legend!
Simply amazing and breath taking to say the least. I am a newbie to this arena and I have been doing tons of research and I really appreciate your insight on the FX9. An amazing little beast in a small package at one helluva price.....Thanks!! 😁👍
I love this greenish look
Handheld for life brother! love the footage
and thank you for the raw layout. Everyone is hyped but it's almost never needed
What is your opinion on Sony FX9 vs. Red Komodo?
Can you talk about fx9 settings and color grading. Would love a color grading breakdown.
just randomly found your channel! keep creating! sending positive vibes from Scarborough !!
sending some GTA love!
Great video! I love the authentic opinion and honesty! I've been doing mental gymnastics trying to decide if I should by the FS7 mark II or the Fx9----and I think this video has swayed me to the Fx9.
I can't wait for A7s3 release.
Going to be a good b-cam, special use and also main camera for a lot of people.
I would say any camera as far as you've got the right idea, that said your footage looks great Mark. Thanks for a constant inspiration to create better and better contents😉
Hi Mark.
You are so enthusiastic when he talked about the CX-5.
That it makes me want to have one.
Still have to improve my with my filming technique.
So I believe it's going to take awhile......
Love your video love your content thank thank you
Very good! I noticed in 5:20 there is a lot of electronic noise. I did see it sometimes with the FX9. I wonder if that's a constant issue
I have cinema dng on my bmpcc4k. BUT. But i dont use it :) Prores and braw more than enought. The strange thing is the next. I like more prores image details over braw. Braw a little bit more flexible but prores just good to. All camera good at this time (mostly) :D I like your FX9...More usable than my pocket rig :D
Great Video! What are your thought on the Wooden Camera pro kit? I noticed you had that rigged on the FX9. How's the handle etc?
Awesome! I couldn't agree more with the RAW codec perspective. I think if you're nailing everything in camera, XAVC in 10 bit 4:2:2 gives you plenty of room to still play around with in the grade! Stoked to see this documentary course come out :)
facts x1000! Enjoyed this review on the fx9!
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Thanks for this Mark, I loved shooting on the FX9 too. But I think for me personally the C500 just had a few more ecosystem features I preferred. What I think is crazy is that in this day and age, it's the little things, like ergonomics or button placement etc that separate these cameras (price not withstanding) instead of major feature differences (again for someone who isn't looking to shoot raw all the much). I also think Ecosystem (like apple) plays a much bigger role than it used to. IE if you dig e-Mount lenses over EF you will find better experiences when not using adapters and matching the camera to your lens collection is a big factor. Especially when nearly all cameras create amazing images these days.
But damn that 180 frames makes such a huge difference when not cropped, no joke.
Aaron, this is and will be one of the most sound and logical perspectives about cameras that I may see posted on this video or any of my videos. You're spot on, ecosystem really pushes you to buy the next camera. It's painful to leave an ecosystem, hence while I'm still on a Mac when PC has more horse power for cheaper. Thank you for your perspective, it's a great take.
@@markbone Thank you! Anytime :). Also slight addition to the AVC stigma (it really exists) I think labeling codecs is just a mess in general. AVC and H.264 are interchangeable and were adopted in the name I think due to a licensing agreement with MPEGLA folks. So Sony has their distro named X-AVC- (I,L,S) and Canon their XF-AVC title. They both operate very similarly. H.264 compression on the frames and a choice to be intra frame or long gop. I think this is the biggest disservice, since intra frame codecs make a huge difference in edit-ability and grading to an extent, while the log gop varients can suffer serious quality loss at the lower datarates or with more complex and varied footage. They really are completely different meals, but sony and canon package them like different flavours.
Epic footage man! 👏🏻✨
Love your channel and your energy, I really do and that’s why I follow your vibes. However to me Sony is greenish-yellowish (I have Sony cameras) and my EF Lenses are now yearning for the Canon R5 and its IBIS - Full frame c-log 4K 422 at 120p - Variable ND adapter - and autofocus (when needed). We are going back home haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the FX9 though, it’s much appreciated
Great camera!
nice, wish i could afford an fx9 lol, looking forward to your fx9 vs a7siii comparison!
Awesome info dude!!!!!.... loving the colours in your video! It would be great too see a colour grading tutorial. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
When we used a FS7 with the XAVC I was blow away with how much information it retains, was able to pull down the highlights really far when I thought they were lost.
yeah, when filming Log you can recover highlights insanely well
What about the image stabilization software??
from a Canon user.. great informative video
Looks great! I disagree with your Raw assessment outside of Arri though. I use 16:1 red raw and use less data than shooting ProRes. Same with BM. Having 16 bit color in a decent file size is a major plus.
Hell yeah, man! Love the footage and content. Peace brother.
Great colours out of that camera but my question is what the heck is the name of this running doc?
Seeing you manually focus pulling with no gear attachment on a 50 1.2 makes me worried. Good job man! please keep making more video.
Living on the edge
The canon xl1 is still my favourite camera and still looks great! After that, maybe the gh4.
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Totally agree. This is a great camera!
Hi Mark! Good Job 👍
How do you expose your shots on fx9?
Shout out to Ontario from vegas if you ever want to collab I can show you around sin city! Great video brother! I got the fs5mkii and an a7riii
Great video! Beautiful Footage. Are you using a polarizer? Have you had any issues with using it with the variable ND?
Love it dude!!! 🤩
Mark, could you please tell me how did you get that ADIDAS/NIKE/APPLE commercial look for that video? I’m looking to get that color grading for so long to no avail. 😭 by the way, you’re killing it! 💯💯💯 ✌🏻 and ❤️
Did you have a chance to play with the 28-135mm f/4? I'll be curious to have you opinion. I got my hands on the FX9 last week, it really is a fantastic camera! Love your videos, thanks for sharing!
For now i’m shooting videos with a Fuji X-T3 and i’m pretty happy with it... and mostly use the Eterna simulation film on it ;)
I really like your style!
I’m interested to know how you deal with overlapping of roles like directing/ cinematography and what your take on this is. Like, how efficient is it to multitask and when is it maybe even of advantage/ or always a downside? Enjoying your videos!:)
What about Fuji xt4🙋
great video and the images coming off the FX9 are stunning! The whole Canon v Sony fan boy debate is funny, I loved the video by Tony Northrup comparing colour science and in a blind test involving 1,500 people the vast majority voted Sony as having the most pleasing colours and those voters included Canon, Nikon and Fuji fans boys ;)
Great work broh.
I REALLLYYYYY hope they put the S-Cinetone in the A7SIII !!!! It would be a really good stepup camera to the FX9 for many people. Plus the lenses would work on both cameras; no silly adapters
Great video Mark. Just heard you say your from Toronto. I live 45 min away and if you ever need a hand or someone to film bts let me know!
Hi Mark - if possible please could you list the kit around your fx9 - i.e. the handle, top plate and shoulder mount etc
Great stuff as always
You watch videos on 1.5x to 2x! You are my type of person 🙌🏻👌🏻
Great video. What are your thoughts on the size and weight of the FX9 and it’s versatility for documentary film making? I’m still curious to see what the specifications of a potential FX6 are and which I assume will be a more compact body.
It's heavier that the Fs7, but not heavy enough to become unusable. A bit smaller would have been nice but it fits better on the shoulder because of this. I found the Fs5 too flimsy, I dunno what the Fx6 will be like
Thanks. Really appreciate the reply.
Very valuable as always ! I'm looking to learn more about "treatment" building, espacially for documentary work ! Would that be something you could make a video about ??
Even though you are impartial to cameras. You have a lot of Sony bodies even if you pair it with Canon glass. Would you say that the A7SIII excites you more than the Canon R5?
No overheating. 240fps. Dynamic range
I just bought BMPCC4K and it's interesting coming from Sony, though I'm waiting for A7S3 or FX6 to return to Sony.
I agree, XAVC is fantastic! I also like Prores a lot though and getting Prores Raw through the Shogun 7 seems intriguing. Mark, will you be trying out that combo? Just curious.
Talking about cameras like talking about religions to some people...I hear you well:) greeting from another FX9 user also in GTA. Great video!
That camera looks awesome is it really expensive? And is AVCHD hard to edit with I have to convert it to MP4 to edit it what is your advice I have a Sony a5000 AMD I want to use AVCHD but it is hard to Figure out
Damn, I love your colours. I'm always struggling to get those blue tints there where they need to be, while maintaining a realistic look and feel.
Great work
Great piece. Can you go over your lenses you pair with the FX9?
Yes I would like to know this too.
nice review!
question: is there no microstutters while filming handheld?
How are you getting such good looking 120p out of the FX9? My tests with it it aliases and the pixel binning looks nasty so I've avoided using it too much. But your 120 looks totally usable. I 100% agree with you. I really have no regrets investing in this guy. It produces some amazing images and I personally LOVE the efficient codec 'cause I don't have the money for all those hard drives. And I'm very camera agnostic myself. I was a Panasonic fanboy for a long time, and still use the GH5. And I love Blackmagic cams. And I love the FX9. Canon's the only brand of the major ones I've not really messed with, oddly. Nothing against em, just never had the chance.
Hey Mark,
I LOVED the " a true story?" film you did
was that shot with the fx9?
Fs7 last thing I shot on it!
Now I want an fx9! haha
Yo bud what's the arm you are using to manipulate your onboard monitor?
Great looking video. As a FX9 owner myself I was wondering what is your Slog3 experience on the sensor concerning overexposure. I did a lot of test and mostly shoot the camera rated as Iso 400/500 (in based 800 Iso). So basically not pushing the exposure as much as on a Fs7. But what's your experience. :)
that might work for 800 but I find the 4000 very noisy, you need to pump that ISO with lots of light
Why is there no flange back adjustment on the FX9?
Thanks
Hi pro bro please tell us does panasonic eva-1 12k resolve to the Netflix and does that camcorder has some issues with red light appear or something else and you really awesome we love the way you are god bless
Sorry no idea man
@@markbone thanks
Thanks for the update. Do you use the autofocus of the FX9 a lot for example in this sports shot? Or manual focus most of the time? Looks hard to nail focus when you are running around fast moving objects with that shallow dof!
A little mix of both.
Can you review the V-Raptor when it comes out?
Hey Mark would you recommend this for short film narrative? I really want the Arri Alexa film look...what do you think?
If you can’t afford alexa the fx9 is a GREAT alternative
@@markbone okay thank you ..love your videos very educational...keep em coming!
Is Sony FX9 still the best camera for documentaries? I'm a pro documentary maker and going to buy a new camera, are now in a camera research face, and feel a little lost...
Never heard of that auto ND feature VERY interesting, thanks. I am guessing this has 2 XLRs?
Yes, it has two XLRs
What do you think of the new BM 12K?
I got a used sony f55 with R7 recorder -16 bit xcon raw, 4k 120- for the same price as the fx9. I think that should be a very real option for people looking in this price range.
The big issue with shooting f55 and f5 is that they are a lot harder to solo operate than the fx9. There is also the codec. Much better high ISO. And autofocus.
If you’re going to shoot narrative film, f55 makes a lot of sense. But if you’re a runner gunner, solo op then the fx9 really can’t be beat in this price range.
@@JeremiahBostwick I somewhat agree. I just tested the fx9 vs the f55 and I found the fx9 super fun to use but the extra weight of the f55 acually makes it way more stable ( along with the global shutter) the motion looks a lot better. you can shoot raw with xcon all day so Idk what you mean by codec. Fx9 is definitely cleaner but thats not to say you cant get a clean image out of the f55. Im a solo run and gun operator and still chose the f55 I just like the image out of it way more, thats more important to me, but with that said fx9 I see being the better choice depending on what work you do and what you believe is more important for how you work.
@@andrewskater17 By codec, I was referring to what Mark brought up in the video. It uses XAVC 10-bit 4-2-2 (+LOG). It's a very versatile format and it's data rate is much lower than RAW at I believe around 600 Mb/s. Raw generally is 1500 Mb/s and up which is a lot higher. If you're shooting narrative or doc work where you're accumulating literally hours of footage every day, day in and day out that adds up.
This is also not to mention the fact that SxS cards are significantly more expensive than the XQD cards the FX9 uses.
The major advantages of the FX9 has over the F55 are numerous, but in short they are: dual native base ISO (800 and 4000), Auto-focus, 15-stops of dynamic range, powerful lightweight intra-frame codec, down-sampled 6k, 180 fps full frame 1080p, 4 channel audio, dual audio recording (you can record the same audio channel at two different audio levels for safety), less expensive media, E-mount (which can then mount virtually any lens cheaply), Venice color science (and vastly improved color science in general).
The F55 advantages over the FX9 are primarily global shutter, RAW capability, true cinema fps' (if you really need specifically 24fps and 60fps as opposed to 23.93 and 59.97 as an example) and really that's the end of the list.
To me, if you don't need to be shooting in RAW constantly (and I'd personally say the use cases are very small; it's mostly for narrative film with a decent sized budget), the FX9 is going to be a better buy for at least 90% of people. Just the AF and dual-native ISO make it a workhorse that makes an awful lot of sense for working professionals in environments that aren't always lit and where 'anything can happen'. For corporate, wedding, event, doc, and commercial work the FX9 is a shoe in. The F5/F55 are fantastic at narrative, commercial, primarily. But then also okay at shooting doc work provided you have a bigger budget for all of the storage necessary for the footage.
At the end of the day, both cameras are fantastic. But to me it's obvious which camera is more versatile. Which was the point of this video. The FX9 without a doubt is one of the most versatile cameras without a doubt. It doesn't mean that other cameras aren't good, especially for specific use cases. But as good as the FX9 is at everything? That's a much harder case to argue.
@@JeremiahBostwick Just saying I'v tried and tested both and I think even with all the bells and whistles the f55 image is way better than the fx9, at least for the work I do. If you're after a super clean image than ya fx9 will get you there, but the f55 is more more organic. I got a whole package with axs cards for around the same price as an fx9. Xcon LT is smaller than xavc so you can get 16bit raw up to 120fps 4k with a global shutter in a smaller package, it's pretty amazing. For wedding's and events ya fx9 is great, but looking at the type of stuff @markbone is filming, with fast motion and whip pans, there is no doubt the f55 w/R7 would look better.. in my opinion.
@@JeremiahBostwick I understand your points and agree, my point is to let people no there might be a better option to consider depending on the type of work they do. Not a lot of people talking about the f55 as it was a 30k camera that came out years ago.
I’m sure the BM 12K vs FX9 chatter is about to clog up this comment section, but they’re not the same sensor size and use case. I like my FX9 plenty and still get impressed every time I use it. FW 2.0 will be welcomed indeed, but so long as Sony stays on top of feature updates by listening to their customers, it will continue to evolve and get better. The 16-bit RAW update will be nice using the Shogun 7
Shogun 7 caps at 10-bit. It will require Atomos’ new Neon system to do 16-bit RAW.
@@JeremiahBostwick It will get a firmware update once the FX9 update comes, and then you'll get a 12-bit RAW output via SDI on it!
@@Daniel_Sanchez_ I asked Atomos themselves when they would be able to handle 12-bit RAW over SDI like the Ninja V over HDMI.
I'll admit that Atomos' tech support was basically not helpful at all. It took a lot of messaging back and forth and asking the most basic of questions with zero nuance to get a direct response.
But the short answer is he told me that it will require Neon to get anything above 10-bit. I'm not saying that guy was right, because he wasn't exactly helpful.
However even if the Shogun 7 does get 12-bit over SDI that is a HUGE difference from 16-bit (which definitely will require Neon or some future product).
I'd recommend reading Alistair Chapman's comments on the subject. But the short answer is you likely won't notice any difference from 10-bit Log compressed vs 12-bit RAW linear.
It was written specifically about FS5/FS7 RAW, but the principles are the same: www.xdcam-user.com/2017/08/the-pros-and-cons-of-12-bit-linear-raw-or-recording-raw-to-s-log/
If it will allow 12-bit RAW LOG then there will be a meaningful difference in terms of code values and what you'll be able to do with the grade. However true 14-bit or 16-bit linear RAW is an entirely different level in terms of latitude that 10-bit or 12-bit raw can't touch.
great camera 🙌🏻
Are you using the Sigma Art 20mm with a matte box?
Hey Mark are you experiencing any of the 'green fringe'?
What EF adaptor are you using? Using autofocus?
Sigma and no
Hi Mr MB.
A suggestion for a future topic :-). So for those of us who are considering going from DSLR to "real" video cameras,
I would love to see some recommendations as to what to get from the pre owned marked, that might not be the latest teck but will keep up in 2020, and for a lot less money.
Your FS 9 footage looks amazing and I would love to jump on that boat! Unfortunately, being a hobby - pro dreamer video dude, At this time, I would not be able to spend that much on a camera, dope it may be, without filing for divorse at the same time :-D. I cant imagine that I am the only one in this situation, so just an idea. Thanx for taking the time making these vids! :-)
Right now, and FS5, or even a used FS7 may be a good transition camera for a dslr/mirrorless user trying to get into the proper video camera market
Zach Hunter yay! Great. Thanx;)
This is my dream camera, I feel like the a7siii will be the perfect B cam for it when it comes out, BTW do you need to convert any files after shooting to be able to use them in premiere?