SONY FX6: DID WE OVER HYPE IT? Footage deep dive
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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Hey Mark, thanks for sharing, could you please give us the profile you set on cam ? ( Slog2-3 / gamut ) Thanks.
“Sometimes when you push saturation too high people start to look like oompa-loompas.”
Spoken like a true professional.
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So much LUT promotion I thought I was watching Jared Polin.
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yeah think he should try making money from sponsors and patreon instead of selling luts cause the content is super good
philip bloom explained the dual iso as the higher iso not having as much dynamic range therefore not truly dual BASE iso according to sonys high standards.
Bloom is a SONY abassador, and probably have some salary , in one or another way, He denies the fact but........people are not stupid. So U should not listen too much of what he says .
if there's any presets you want to buy for your photos. it's from jamie windsor. if there's lut worth using, it's from you mark. i just knew it will be good. instead of everyone selling their own pack that doesn't even worth on half of your footage, you put care and thought for it. i will be buying this and soon if i have the money your course too.
wow thank you mate! this is a huge compliment, I love Jamie's work!
I would really love to see a side-by-side comparison of the FX6 and the FX 9 shooting sharp close-up skin where you can actually see pores and hair. How a camera expresses variations in the skin through color, tone and saturation are of primary importance to me in the camera that I choose. In my opinion that’s where ARRI still beats everyone else. I would love to come closer without spending $40,000.
Always got the smoothest background music!
The CRAZY thing about the S-III and FX6 is that their dual gain circuits spread soooo far apart (the original S-III firmware had 640/16,000…thankfully somebody at Sony changed the final release firmware to 640/12800)
On the FX6, the “low” 0d is pre amped to equal 800 ISO. The “high” 0db is pre amped to equal 12800 ISO. To me, this seems to be somewhat crazy. This causes the middle and upper end of the first stage circuit to have way more noise then it needs. 4,000 - 10,000 are pretty bad. Shouldn’t Sony lower the second stage preamp gain to equal 4,000-6,000 ISO instead? I think the FX9 and Lumix S1H have more reasonable dual gain preamp values. 4,000 ISO fills the image quality “gap” that exists on the top end of the first stage. Yes, that would sacrifice all the crazy “25,000 ISO” values, true….but who uses those anyway? I’d MUCH prefer to have 800-6,000 range that has no severe gaps in noise performance.
Another awesome video! Thanks for giving out the fx6 and fx9 footage. I can’t wait to play with that!!! Keep it up.
I love the Fx6
I was thinking on what to buy myself for Christmast, I just got your LUT pack, thanks. Happy holidays.
Stunning footage mate! It certainly looks like an interesting camera, when you consider it's about 1500 to 2000 more than the A7III but with that ND and XLRs and a cinema (albeit small cinema) body. I'm going to have a play around with your clips now 🤓
Got my FX6 on preorder! Did you notice any issues w/ the Sigma vs Sony glass? Image or AF? I'm moving from a MFT system so deciding if the more expensive Sony GM glass is worth it. The camera has me sold already.
Thanks Mark for sharing your experience on this new camera, specially from a FX9 owner. I like how you stay true on your thoughts, pointing details which can be annoying for an operator. That’s really refreshing among all UA-camrs reviews here.
Thanks Yannick!! So glad my insights are helping 🙏🏻
People say the a7siii’s color science is the same as the fx6, i dont think thats true when looking at this
I don't use the A7sIII at the moment so I'm not sure myself
Check PotatoJet. The color science on these two is clearly different
Depends on the profile most likely with S-log 3 likely identical.
Great video Mark, would you say this is a better buy than the fs7? Do you find the IQ on the fx6 that much nicer?
Waaaay better than the Fs7
I'm glad you added the real-time speed footage of the ballet artist for context... she was moving quite fast!
Just downloaded the footage and purchased the LUTs. Works and looks fantastic in FCP. Thanks!
Love it!! So glad you’re enjoying them :)
Just bought your luts! Can't wait to use them on my films, thanks mark!
fcp cant read the mxf file, you know how to import the clips to fcp?
thanks Mark
It is good to see your true perspective
and thanks for the luts
Happy holyday
Thanks mate!! Enjoy the LUTS :)
thank you for the sample footage! blew me away. Could you share your thoughts on comparing it to a7s iii, since the sensor and the brain are identical?
love your shooting style m8
Do you lose the touch to focus feature if you swap out the LCD to a Small HD or other brand monitor?
Yes
Selling my Scarlet W DSMC2 now, will get FX6 soon
FX6 looks perfect for my needs, should be a nice move forward from my pocket4k's, I'll save that 5k difference and buy grip/lighting equipment :) Cheers, Mark!
Did you use your LUTs on the footage with the women in black jacket? i am trying to color grade this footage trying to achieve the looks from your LUTs I've purchase, may i ask what bundle of LUTs will give me that looks ?
Love your vids! I just pre-ordered the FX6, and my A7Siii is finally almost here. Curious to know if you have thoughts on using both cameras for the same shoot, and how they'd match up, especially if one wanted to use the S-Cinetone on the FX6. Or is the only practical way to go about to shoot S-Log in both cameras? Thanks again!
I got my FX6 two weeks ago and I love ❤️ it. One of the very few that got a unit this early. Love it, the only thing i hope they add to the FX6 is AF Tracking like the A7S3 and to be able to add someway to add a mic on a gimbal would be great but really the image is great! and i love S-Cinetone. Great video Mark you helped me info wise make a better decision. Thanks
MANNNN! I LOVE the footage form the FX6!!!!!!!! Just put it on FCPX and WHAT A DYNAMIC RAGE! I'm blown away!!!! Color grading and correcting was a PLEASURE! Getting the FX9 now!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I have always been amazed at how you are able to achieve the certain looks within your films. I was reluctant to purchase because I am a canon shooter currently on the C300 III. I can't thank you enough for these amazing Luts! They are incredible!
Yeasss!! So glad they’re helping :)
Zelda Reference = Classic!!!!!!! On another note I’m so confused with all these cameras!!! I’m going to rent first because I’m sooooo confused in a great way
definitely the right call. you can try out the footage that I linked also!
You have so much to teach us. It's amazing it took you so long to start doing it on youtube :)
Thank you so much!
I’m a simple man. I see that Mark Bone released LUTS and I buy em. Can’t shoot as good as him but it’ll look a little better.
Loved this! Thank you!
Love it, Mark. Thanks!
thanks Martin!
Bro my FX6 is dissapointing me I dont know wat Im doing wrong, I bring in your footage to my same timeine with my footage and yours looks has the sharpness I want but cant seem to get, Im so confused.
Great video and channel bro! You're very good on just putting things in "real world" perspective. I pre ordered my fx6 and can't wait to start telling amazing stories with it. And I'll be definitely getting your lut pack!
Cool stuff! Were you using the Helios lenses on both cameras?
Thanks for sharing. The footage looks great!
Could you upload 2 clips of fx6 and fx9 filming the same scene for us to download and play with? Thank you!
@MarkBone I'm thinking of buying the Sony FX6 but I'm completely invested in Canon EF lens. I see that you use a lot of Canon EF lenses. What adapter do you recommend?
I'm thinking to sell my fx3 for an fx6. The footage in the description of the FX6 is shoot with what lens ? OS Lens ? Thanks amazing work btw !
I put money down on a Sony z90 but now I'm thinking of getting the FX6 put still not sure can you please tell me what you think I'm confused on what to get
how much of it does apply to a7s3? just image-wise. aside of lack of c-cinetone - any difference in dr perfomance?
Great footage, beautiful lighting on set and at your UA-cam studio setup. The lut on your footage is a great selling point for them . I heard folks bitchin about this sounding like a commercial for your luts. Maybe so a touch but most of those same folks are not using video production as their main source of income . Good job brother. Oh and thanks for this video. My production company is looking into these fx6s.
those same folks should be glad I don't have Patreon or a subscription channel lol
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FX9 aaaall the way.
I still love that camera and trust it the most!
If you use a third party monitor, do you still have access to all the same menus and features if you used the monitor that came with the FX6?
yes, just not the touch screen mode
Hi Mark, quick question. Hope you can enlighten me. I own a FX 9 and really like it. Is there a difference in motion cadence between FX6 and FX9, or would you say both camera's are almost equal in terms of image and motion? Thanks!
Can you be more specific about motion cadence? Not familiar with that term. Are you talking about rolling shutter?
how the sensor renders movement. Do not know how to explain any different:) Do you feel that it is a lot different/more video than the FX9? Or are they both almost identical?
I am considering selling my FX9 and buying the FX6, but afraid I am of downgrading image quality
I am not finding a lot of good reference video online..
Thanks for this Mark, just weighing up between the two myself at the moment, and I have to say from looking at this, the image from FX9 looks just beautiful, its got that almost indefinable mojo about it, that makes you forget about the pixel peeping and you look at the story. The FX6 has a technically great image, but there's just no vibe from it by comparison
No vibe? Color grade it lol
Hi Mark, great video as always. Can you show us how you replaced the fx6 monitor with a smallHD one? Can you do it with a ninja v instead? Also, can the smallHD/ninja control the touchscreen commands on the fx6? TIA, K
I’d love to see this as well. Not sure which to buy and don’t want to have both the Sony and other monitor on at once
Is there an issue with the green aliasing issue from window light in the fx6 like there is with the fx9? That’s been a huge question in my mind
yes, similar aliasing
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I just got your LUTS and can't wait to use them in the field!
Just purchased the PRO Luts! Thank you! 🤘🏼🙌🏼
Nice review. Thanks very much.
That's beautiful!
I think one thing I love about the FX9 is the locking e mount!
I want to put Tokina Primes on a camera, I think it might be hard on the FX6. I mean, it's 2 pounds and with just a clicked in lens option, not sure it's very good when moving
Great review, thanks Mark 🔥
Great video Mark! I’ll be pre ordering the FX6 today hopefully and I’m excited to have it paired with my GH5 and my GH4 for wedding films and corporate work!
Please do a video on this. I have a gh5 and I'm i want to see how they look together
sorry all, I don't own a Gh5. I had the GH4 more than 6 years ago. I would be of no help for this
@@markbone one of my buddies whose a wedding videographer has the A7S3 and GH5 and is able to match the footage easy! So I don’t think it would be too be of an issue between the FX6 and GH5
@@markbone how did you like the mft compare to what you have now?
That comparison of Sony menus to navigating the first Zelda game 😂😂😂
So informative! Am I the only one who keeps looking at Marks hand distortion every time his hands go to the edge of the frame? 😂
Great video! What batteries do you use to power your smallHD - the question is about third party batteries that are compatible with FX6 with Dtap output. And what is that magic arm you use at 12:50 to attach it to the camera?
Just got the LUTs! I'm so glad that I came across your channel a little while ago! You make me excited about film making! Hoping to use the LUTs at my current job at a Church and in the future with other projects! Cheers!
Thanks Daniel! Let me know how the LUTS work for you! God bless brother!
How were you operating the menus with no LCD and just your SmallHD?
Mark please upload in 4k your vids are breaking apart like crazy because of UA-cam's compression. Such a pity!
mate! it is 4K :) it must have just taken longer to compress. Also if you're using safari it can't be viewed in 4K
@@markbone Aha I guess it's the downside of having the bell notification :( Instead of bokeh, I get a Tetris background
Great vid Mark. What exact mount are you using to mount your SmallHd to camera¿
What a great vid. I just got the C70 and the fx6 has my attention. Such a cool camera
the C70 looks like a great camera also! can't wait to try it
Thank you, Mark. Very informative (not scientific, like you said) video with cool samples. Definitely worth watching. PS: I like your "easy" youtube setup. If simple, clean, and pleasing to watch !
Great comparison, will you have luts for the Red Komodo? I love the video you did with Calley, gave me incentive to do one with the Red Komodo to see if it's as good as the FX6. will send you clips once i'm done. Thanks for all your Video's please keep them going.
Which lens do you use for balerina shooting?
a combo of the sony 24mm 1.4 and the sigma 35mm 1.2
First time ever hearing the nes classic The Legend of Zelda's overworld (lacking any wayfinding whatsoever) to Sony's menu system! Hilarious.
Hey Mark! Thanks for the giving us the footage to try a color grade! I'm new to color grading and have been burned trying to grade LOG on my 8-bit a7iii a few times. This definitely is a completely different experience. I just got the a7siii and wonder if you prefer the FX6 over it?
I prefer cinema camera bodies rather than mirrorless so I would chose the Fx6 but that doesn’t mean the A7SIII isn’t a great camera!
Thanks for the prompt follow up, Mark. Hoping not to get grilled here, but how would you compare it to say BM Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k /G2? Or would you compare it to that camera? I'm new to your channel and loving it, so I apologize if you've already expressed your thoughts on BM. Good work!
sorry brother, I barely use those cameras so I wouldn't know. Colour science on the Ursa seems decent these days but I'm not a fan of the ergonomics but I'm picky or maybe just used to the Sony chaos of their camera bodies
I dont see links for the full hd camera monitor. Do u recommend any cheap ones? great video!
Great video. I too am an FS5 owner and ive never been a fan but mostly because of the screen.
I see you hooked your smallHD to it, but with what mount? I've been looking for the best options to mount a monitor.
shame to hear that you don't rate the native monitor too, that was one of my areas of concern regarding buying this camera.
I never use the native monitor. They’re always too small, too crowded and difficult to nail focus. My rating: remove immediately upon purchase
Thanks Mark for the Deep drive 🙌, great info. What lens are you using to get anamorphic like flair on a 16:9 image at time code 5:47 of this video? I'm trying to find a spherical lens that can do this too. Thank you
I was using a filter that gave the flares. I'll talk about it when I'm allowed to!
Love the Zelda reference
between this and the komodo which has the best image quality?
FX9 + A7S3 ☺️
What lenses are you using with the FX6 ballerina footage?
Bought your LUT pack to support you, love your work.😍
Awesome! Thank you so much!
That Intro-Sentence is SO true!
Mark, I would love to hear your thoughts on the Blackmagic cameras as a documentary film maker, have you tried them, or do you have any opinions on them?
A lot of people ask me about them and I just don't use them. Not out of spite, but their camera bodies and sensor sizes have never interested me. But their colour science is gorgeous. People seem to capture awesome films on them
Mark Bone thanks for the reply! I would love to see you try one out one day!
Thanks for your thoughts and especially for making camera masters available. I was wondering if you turned off the denoising in the FX6 and were you using the autofocus? As pleasing as the overall images are I just cannot see a consistent level of detail in the shots, now that they are in davinci especiallly say in the fx6 hair and skin. It could be me. My eyes arent great. Maybe your model had flawless skin but I would expect to see pores and more skin tone variation. I have shot with the fx9 and know it can be there but given its 6K full frame I am surprised that I find the Canon C300iii seems to have more fidelity and detail. Again was there a reason why you didnt go with the C500ii (maybe price) as I believe that you say that you use it? When and why would you use the Canon C500ii over the Sony FX9? Have you tried the R5? You seem like someone who wants fidelity and detail in your shots though you also seem to like to saturate your colours. I agree that the Ursa is a pig of a camera but how important is the image quality in your work and what is it about the Sony look that you like say compared to RED Canon Braw Kinefinity Arri (Amira), assuming price isn't the limiting factor? Thanks so much. Best K
The lighting in this location is quite soft so the image acutance is low, naturally it does not emphasize skin texture. On top of it most of the shots have a strong light source within the frame which lowers the contrast further by slightly flaring the lens and reducing its ability to render detail.
What lens were you using for the FX6 Clip? Just downloaded it and It's beautiful
The Sony 24mm 1.4
Great video!
thanks mate!
Pro Ordered FX6 lets go :)
Yeah man!! You’re gonna love it.
Dont know how u adit and render your yt videos
But it looks like 1080p upscaled to 4k
Like u edit in 1080p timeline and export it to 4k
Hey Mark!
I work as a Stunt Coordinator and 2nd Unit Director and was thinking of getting the FX6 for their slo-mo. You said at the end that the FX6 slo-mo is murky? But the ballet sequence you shot looked pretty clean. Thoughts?
The 4K 120fps is clean but if you need the 240fps 1080 it starts getting a bit muddy. Not terrible but also not cinema grade quality
*Fs5 is a good camera*
*Y'all Trippin*
Hello Mark, i will buy the FX6 😉 Are your luts special for the FX6? Did you stabilized the handheld footage with Sony Catalyst? What do you think are the best two lenses for me for the FX 6? best cinematic greetings from 🇩🇪
None of the footage in these videos have been stabilized. All straight MB handheld :) and yes, these LUTS will work amazing on Fx6
@@markbone Thanks Mark, i will buy your luts when I have the FX6 👍🏻 what are the best lenses for this FX6 in your opinion? Thank you 🙏 Best cinematic greetings from 🇩🇪
what color profile did you shoot with though for the sample footage?
Slog 3
Hey Mark, can you give any information about how you rigged the smallhd? I love the system. Are you able to control the menu of your fx9 over the smallhd? I would be happy to hear from you. Thanks for all your content! Josua
I do not have control over the menu. And I use an ultra light arm. Wooden camera creates a version of it now
I was able to understand the importance of that slight detail a camera gives you when Brownlee Marques was asked why he shoots with the red "That slight detail of 4k makes a big difference"
Detail is everything!!
@@markbone I strongly agree ever since you said dynamic range is one thing to mainly put in consideration while buying a camera, Thanks for the content I learn a lot from Uganda
Hi Mark, can you recall your camera settings for the clip provided? Mostly ISO and picture profile settings. Thanks man.
Slog 3 and ISO 800 for both
@@markbone jolly good then
Got you luts man just trying to show support. I was afraid because I have an A7III which is 8 bit and I was afraid they may break my footage. But man they look great!!! Almost feels like a new camera lol. I was using Slog 2 and everything came out amazing. Also very impressed with the skin tones I'm getting with these luts. Very natural.
Love it brother! So glad they're helping out your shooting game!
they look magenta to me, maybe i must calibrate my monitor
Hey man, is that a SmallHD 502 or 701 or something? can't tell.
502 🙌🏻
Great!
I would love to see how you grade the project :)
Do you have a video where you correct your colour balance? Would love to see a different methods used by various of filmmaker.
I did one recently on skin tone!!