I'm loving all the easy options for waxing now, we're really coming on a chain wax revolution. I'm switching this year too, thanks to these kits making it easy. Traditionally, chains were coated in a hot dip grease (thick grease heated to near boiling, to completely seal the surface of the metal against corrosion in the months or years before they were sold. Wax wouldn't have done this so you would have had rusted chains on the shelf of your bike shop. But in general, oil was thought to be a better overall solution to the problem and the industry takes time to change. For a big company, there isn't very much reason to change and entire manufacturing process for a very niche subgroup of cyclists. But being able to buy prewaxed chains from a third party is a huge savings in effort.
man this thing is so extra. I use a $3 mini crock pot from the thrift and gulf wax from the grocery store lol. Total like $5 investment and it's been servicing all my chains for a couple years.
I just last week pulled out a can of chain hot wax that I have had for over 20yrs and waxed my super noisy chain form the bike I use on my Kicker. What a major difference with chain noise reduced significantly, smoothness and shifting. I got away from using wax because at at the time quick links were not a thing and it was too much of a pain to use regularly. Now that I can use quick links I will more than likely move exclusively to waxing. The wax I have is in a metal can so I just put the chain atop the cold wax and pop it on a cup warmer over night. What I like most about the wax is every portion of the chain is lubed.
I have been waxing for over a year. Don't see it as a hassle in comparison to oil. Have 3 chains (YBN chains via ali for about 13.00 each), the hardest part was getting the grease off but with experience it gets easier. The crock pot is a kind of turn it on low and forget it. When the wax melts simply place the chain in and you can leave it as long as you wish. If I have no spare chain ready, I simply use silica's super secret until I am ready to do a full waxing of all 3 chains
You can add drip wax to get a little more life between dips. Maybe rotate chain on high mileage bike. Yard sale, crock pot is 5$. Not to mention other wax sources. Definitely have seen longer chain life on fleet as well after a year on wax.
I think Silca has some cross compatibility but not sure. I use Silca hot wax which lasts about 300 miles and I top up with their drip wax every 200 miles. I do a hot wax every 1000 miles
Hotwax for the win 🚴✨✨. I've been waxing for the last year and I am not going back. Also Silca just released a new wax kit and a one step wax solution that degreases new chains. The hotwax market is heating up 🔥 I bought a second liner for my instapot, but these smaller units are appealing, plus I like the hanger above the wax unit.
When the chain gets louder you know it's time to rewax. I've been getting around 250miles per wax, you can relube with drip wax between rides to extend it. I wax multiple chains at a time so I can rotate easily when needed.
@@kawabus 250 miles? Awesome thanks! So basically once a week for me haha. Actually no, since I'm constantly swapping bikes for review. I will for sure hot wax my indoor trainer bike,
@@PatrickLino ya your use case gets complicated. It is more effort than oil based lube. I think once you have the process down it gets easier. Having a mechanism like a dowel to loosen the chain after the wax helps.
@@PatrickLino an added benefit is it prevents wear much better than oil lubes. Check out Oz Cycle on YT that channel got me into wax, he has a lot of great content on the subject 🚴♀️✨✨
An upside of using wax is it is less wear on the drivetrain than oil. Check out Oz Cycle on YT, he has a lot of great content on the subject and that's were I got turned on to wax. Love your content by the way, curious to know how using the hot wax does or doesn't works for you🚴✨✨
Got the Silca kit but Zero Friction Cycling’s Adam Kerin says Cyclowax is testing very well. I think the kits are great, diy'ers can do it cheaply but these kits have a lot of thought, testing and expertise put into them.
The included melting pot isn’t required, but man it heats up the wax incredibly because it’s small. And there’s only a single optimal heating temp so no need to figure that out either
Excellent timing on this piece. This does include a chain that is clean and I think that is what I would do to start. From what I have seen removing lube from a new chain is a project. Silca offers pre-waxed chains for $99. Is there an opportunity for my local neighborhood bike shop to provide this service to re-apply for nominal fee? I have been discussing waxed chains with them.
I've got a large glass Ball jar filled with thinner that I put all my new chains in and shake around then hang dry. Removing the factory lube doesn't have to be tough
Degreasing a chain is easy enough with jar, old frying pan, boiling water, cheap bulk degreaser and white spirit/mineral turps. Shake in jar with white spirit, rinse scrub with degreaser, boil in pan, rinse and warm in pan to dry before waxing. Once waxed no need for solvents normally just boil in water, dry and rewax. I have a kettle and hob in garage next to the wax melter.
No argument there. It's "Sweat Equity" versus paying a premium for essentially having all the work/tools being supplied for you. There is a market for that. For example I build all my bikes at home, so spending hundreds of dollars to have a local bike shop build a bike sounds outrageous. But not everyone has the ability to build at home. Cyclowax does just offer wax tablets if you don't need the entire kit or even a pre-waxed chain.
@@PatrickLino like when i pinch it with the finger and try to rotate the inner and outer link ratling or sound like there is no wax inside. And i tried different waxe first drip on and then hot wax but every time its like the chain is not clean but i cleaned it also in a ultra sonic bath ^^ would you mind to do a video uf your chain or the sound of the chain when riding?
Traditionally, chains were coated in a hot dip grease (thick grease heated to near boiling, to completely seal the surface of the metal against corrosion in the months or years before they were sold. Wax wouldn't have done this so you would have had rusted chains on the shelf of your bike shop. But in general, oil was thought to be a better overall solution to the problem and the industry takes time to change. For a big company, there isn't very much reason to change and entire manufacturing process for a very niche subgroup of cyclists
Hey Patrick, do you have a discount code for the garmin varia mount ? Been using the cyclowax kit before it was released , as a tester . Since then i didn’t touched any oil based lubes and never will …
I'm loving all the easy options for waxing now, we're really coming on a chain wax revolution. I'm switching this year too, thanks to these kits making it easy.
Traditionally, chains were coated in a hot dip grease (thick grease heated to near boiling, to completely seal the surface of the metal against corrosion in the months or years before they were sold. Wax wouldn't have done this so you would have had rusted chains on the shelf of your bike shop.
But in general, oil was thought to be a better overall solution to the problem and the industry takes time to change.
For a big company, there isn't very much reason to change and entire manufacturing process for a very niche subgroup of cyclists. But being able to buy prewaxed chains from a third party is a huge savings in effort.
man this thing is so extra. I use a $3 mini crock pot from the thrift and gulf wax from the grocery store lol. Total like $5 investment and it's been servicing all my chains for a couple years.
tbf this looks pretty nice if you just want it all one package
I just last week pulled out a can of chain hot wax that I have had for over 20yrs and waxed my super noisy chain form the bike I use on my Kicker. What a major difference with chain noise reduced significantly, smoothness and shifting. I got away from using wax because at at the time quick links were not a thing and it was too much of a pain to use regularly. Now that I can use quick links I will more than likely move exclusively to waxing. The wax I have is in a metal can so I just put the chain atop the cold wax and pop it on a cup warmer over night. What I like most about the wax is every portion of the chain is lubed.
Quick links are a lifesaver.
I have been waxing for over a year. Don't see it as a hassle in comparison to oil. Have 3 chains (YBN chains via ali for about 13.00 each), the hardest part was getting the grease off but with experience it gets easier. The crock pot is a kind of turn it on low and forget it. When the wax melts simply place the chain in and you can leave it as long as you wish. If I have no spare chain ready, I simply use silica's super secret until I am ready to do a full waxing of all 3 chains
You can add drip wax to get a little more life between dips. Maybe rotate chain on high mileage bike. Yard sale, crock pot is 5$. Not to mention other wax sources. Definitely have seen longer chain life on fleet as well after a year on wax.
Thanks for the tips. What are you using for drip wax?
I think Silca has some cross compatibility but not sure. I use Silca hot wax which lasts about 300 miles and I top up with their drip wax every 200 miles. I do a hot wax every 1000 miles
The Silca. @@PatrickLino
Thats more like what I am seeing for life. If there is a big race or something I will dip a little early. @@kpizzle1985
Hotwax for the win 🚴✨✨. I've been waxing for the last year and I am not going back. Also Silca just released a new wax kit and a one step wax solution that degreases new chains. The hotwax market is heating up 🔥 I bought a second liner for my instapot, but these smaller units are appealing, plus I like the hanger above the wax unit.
When the chain gets louder you know it's time to rewax. I've been getting around 250miles per wax, you can relube with drip wax between rides to extend it. I wax multiple chains at a time so I can rotate easily when needed.
@@kawabus 250 miles? Awesome thanks! So basically once a week for me haha. Actually no, since I'm constantly swapping bikes for review. I will for sure hot wax my indoor trainer bike,
@@PatrickLino ya your use case gets complicated. It is more effort than oil based lube. I think once you have the process down it gets easier. Having a mechanism like a dowel to loosen the chain after the wax helps.
@@PatrickLino an added benefit is it prevents wear much better than oil lubes. Check out Oz Cycle on YT that channel got me into wax, he has a lot of great content on the subject 🚴♀️✨✨
An upside of using wax is it is less wear on the drivetrain than oil. Check out Oz Cycle on YT, he has a lot of great content on the subject and that's were I got turned on to wax. Love your content by the way, curious to know how using the hot wax does or doesn't works for you🚴✨✨
Got the Silca kit but Zero Friction Cycling’s Adam Kerin says Cyclowax is testing very well. I think the kits are great, diy'ers can do it cheaply but these kits have a lot of thought, testing and expertise put into them.
The included melting pot isn’t required, but man it heats up the wax incredibly because it’s small. And there’s only a single optimal heating temp so no need to figure that out either
Excellent timing on this piece. This does include a chain that is clean and I think that is what I would do to start. From what I have seen removing lube from a new chain is a project. Silca offers pre-waxed chains for $99. Is there an opportunity for my local neighborhood bike shop to provide this service to re-apply for nominal fee? I have been discussing waxed chains with them.
Thanks for watching. I'm curious to hear what you local bike shop says...
I've got a large glass Ball jar filled with thinner that I put all my new chains in and shake around then hang dry. Removing the factory lube doesn't have to be tough
Degreasing a chain is easy enough with jar, old frying pan, boiling water, cheap bulk degreaser and white spirit/mineral turps. Shake in jar with white spirit, rinse scrub with degreaser, boil in pan, rinse and warm in pan to dry before waxing. Once waxed no need for solvents normally just boil in water, dry and rewax. I have a kettle and hob in garage next to the wax melter.
@@draugmithrin Yup I just use boilng water and a little bit of Tru Green.
Do you know if this boiler is compatible with wax from other brands?
@@emf1775 I don’t see why not. They all perform the same basic function haha
The kit is overkill and over priced. A small croc pot/rice cooker is less than $20. Then just buy your wax of choice.
Agreed
No argument there. It's "Sweat Equity" versus paying a premium for essentially having all the work/tools being supplied for you. There is a market for that. For example I build all my bikes at home, so spending hundreds of dollars to have a local bike shop build a bike sounds outrageous. But not everyone has the ability to build at home. Cyclowax does just offer wax tablets if you don't need the entire kit or even a pre-waxed chain.
I love the Waxing :D but i dont know the Chain is Rattling since day one after waxing^^ is the noise normal? oO
@@kevinb6835 what kind of rattling?
@@PatrickLino like when i pinch it with the finger and try to rotate the inner and outer link ratling or sound like there is no wax inside. And i tried different waxe first drip on and then hot wax but every time its like the chain is not clean but i cleaned it also in a ultra sonic bath ^^ would you mind to do a video uf your chain or the sound of the chain when riding?
why are chains not waxed from the factory?
I dont my Shimano/SRAM chains costed $100 from the factory lol
Traditionally, chains were coated in a hot dip grease (thick grease heated to near boiling, to completely seal the surface of the metal against corrosion in the months or years before they were sold. Wax wouldn't have done this so you would have had rusted chains on the shelf of your bike shop.
But in general, oil was thought to be a better overall solution to the problem and the industry takes time to change.
For a big company, there isn't very much reason to change and entire manufacturing process for a very niche subgroup of cyclists
@@galenkehler Repeat this comment in a separate post so I can pin it.
Hey Patrick, do you have a discount code for the garmin varia mount ?
Been using the cyclowax kit before it was released , as a tester . Since then i didn’t touched any oil based lubes and never will …
This is a video on hot wax chains. And the computer in the video is from iGPSPORT. As mentioned.
@@PatrickLinomy bad . Do you have a discount code for the rear light seatpost mount ? Thanks
@@mikedio Sorry I don't. I paid for it myself, so it's not sponsored content 😭
Aye put it on the chain wax!
Bodie...why do you care so much, whether I made up "put it on the chain wax" or not?
Hi, what size is the bike on this video? 58?
56
@@PatrickLino Thanks! And weight?
Waxed chain is where it’s at! I’d never go back to lube, 🙅🏽♂️
#RobbArmstrong
Aye yo....PAUSE!
@@PatrickLino 🤣🤣🤣🤣, #RobbArmstrong
Wait until you try waxing other things 😏
SHOW ME!
$260.00 USD 😳🫢
Just the wax tablets are available for purchase as well.