I still can't get over how interesting and cool this is. I always thought that it was strange that the sages would give their medallions and "add their powers to mine" but ultimately that did absoluely nothing. I find it very neat that they actually had plans for the medallions; plans that were in line with the theme of the medallion and mechanically interesting.
That and a number of beta dialogue fits better with the final game. I think some cutscene and old NPC dialogue carried over to the full game in execution, even if it was removed. Just look at Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well for example. It's full of torture equipment that's never brought up in the final game... the beta dialogue on the other hand points out that Sheikahs were assassins.
Ocarina feels like basically no other n64 or early 3d game. Seems like they made most of it and then redid it all where most developers would have been content to just make a really rough first 3d game.
Well, the developers here were clearly artist which is why they redid the whole game from scratch after originally working on it in the SM64 engine on the N64DD.
I think that the death mountain caverns could have been a really cool use of the child/adult mechanic with some areas you can only get to as child such as crawl spaces and generally tight corridors and some only adult could get to with the hook shot over lava or similar things idk
Interesting that Death Mountain was also called Mt Hebra in Ocarina of Time. That's something from A Link to the Past, but only in the Japanese version for some reason, even tho they left the Tower of Hera name alone. I assume the tower on Mt Hebra being called "Hera" isn't mere coincidence. It's only one letter difference in both Japanese and its Latinization.
The beta lore makes more sense when you look at some of the dungeons. The Sheikahs being known for espionage and also being in control of Death Mountain (potentially) makes sense. Impa let Hylians live in Kakariko, which indicates that she gave them the land at the base of the mountain. Additionally, Bottom of the Well and Shadow Temple have torture equipment, which means the place where Kakariko is now, was where the Shiekahs captured their enemies when Hyrule was more war-torn. This could also mean Gorons and the Shiekah were at war at some point.
I remember my friend back in '99 was deciding between Quest 64 and Ocarina of Time. He thankfully ended up with the latter, and when we eventually rented Quest 64, he wasn't enjoying it at all and was thrilled he didn't make that mistake.
They're practically 3D versions of the Link to The Past Octoroks. Looks Nice. I think they should've left these in the game for the field areas and the purple ones being a water only variation.
I think a lot of the enemies in Ocarina of Time and their beta Zelda 64 designs were mostly based off of Zelda II's original artwork of the enemies in that game. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda 64 started out development as a 3D remake of the original NES Legend of Zelda or Zelda II.
@@retrogamermax8287 Correct! Ocarina of Time began as a remake of Zelda II. There's a DYKG video that talks about it: ua-cam.com/video/CWGOYKBP5DM/v-deo.html
@@SnoopSqueak That's pretty interesting. I sometimes wonder what Ocarina of Time would have been like had they finished the original Zelda II remake build of the game instead of making a whole new game entirely. I'm sure Zelda II on the N64 would have surpassed the original NES Zelda II as a great game. Zelda II wasn't bad, but it sure was pretty hard.
@@YujiUedaFan Plus Shadow Link is in the game and before Ocarina of Time he wasn't seen since Zelda II. Shadow Link does that hurt pose when he's hurt as well like he did in Zelda II.
I always thought the Sheikah were the "shadows" in that they were used as the Royal assassins/spies, they worked in the shadows. I don't think they were meant to legitimately be the shadows of Hylians
Yeah, they're clearly assassins in OOT, due to the dungeons in Kakariko being full of bloody torture equipment. I wish the released version had more interesting dialogue, since most NPCs are just completely stupid... one even says there used to be a "house" where the well was... yeah, great "house full of bloody racks and invisible sheer drops". How ignorant are the Hylains? Didn't the war end like 10 years ago? (Kid timeline)
TFW always thought about beta OOT as a kid, and then my 8 year old daughter opens this video. >My genes passed down to her and she subconsciously wants to know too. Funny how life comes full circle.
I wish NPCs like this existed in the final game. Instead all we get are a bunch of mini tutorials. "There used to be a house where the well is" meanwhile it's a torture dungeon... yeah, great "house" there.
I loved so much this version even if a not real version i much prefer that original Medaillons are cheat very cheat and so cool Other arrow too The area also are so cool
Sadly this is the closest we can get to ever playin the spaceword demo, it sucks the build got overwritten, just imagine a full beta / alpha build of ocarina of time.
I wish Nintendo would remake the N64 with beefed up specs so they could make a massive remake of OoT with all the Beta elements and ideas they originally had, plus the years of experience to flesh it all out and streamline it.
@@DPSpade4ever yeah it would honestly be sick if they just made it into one long game. The end of OoT maybe has an extra scene or two at the end that seamlessly goes into MM
@stupid Cat I'm not talking fan made. Also Nintendo makes plenty good games. Quit the mindless hate. Yeah, they suck from time to time. But to blanket state they don't make good games anymore is BS. The Switch has got an amazing library. Recently they put out Metroid Dread, which was awesome. Breath of the Wild 2 is on the way and looks great. So quit with the hyperbolic hatred. If you're gonna gripe, at least be accurate.
Shadow folk means ninjas basically. They operate in secret, not that they're literally shadows. Though I like to think that victims of Sheikahs during the war joined Midna later on. Pretty sure Redeads only exist because of what Sheikahs did where the well and graveyard were placed...
:57 I remember this shadow effect as a little kid at someone's house. Is there a way to get that in the normal game?? I certainly remember it in a town area too
I still can't get over how interesting and cool this is. I always thought that it was strange that the sages would give their medallions and "add their powers to mine" but ultimately that did absoluely nothing. I find it very neat that they actually had plans for the medallions; plans that were in line with the theme of the medallion and mechanically interesting.
That and a number of beta dialogue fits better with the final game. I think some cutscene and old NPC dialogue carried over to the full game in execution, even if it was removed. Just look at Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well for example. It's full of torture equipment that's never brought up in the final game... the beta dialogue on the other hand points out that Sheikahs were assassins.
Yes as a kid even, this bothered me.
Ueda Yuuji Fan Not everything needs to be explained.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 I guess not, but some dialogue feels like they retconned stuff out of the retail versions.
Ocarina feels like basically no other n64 or early 3d game. Seems like they made most of it and then redid it all where most developers would have been content to just make a really rough first 3d game.
Well, the developers here were clearly artist which is why they redid the whole game from scratch after originally working on it in the SM64 engine on the N64DD.
I think that the death mountain caverns could have been a really cool use of the child/adult mechanic with some areas you can only get to as child such as crawl spaces and generally tight corridors and some only adult could get to with the hook shot over lava or similar things idk
I think they made it more like ALttP with the cavern system, but scrapped it for Goron City.
Interesting that Death Mountain was also called Mt Hebra in Ocarina of Time. That's something from A Link to the Past, but only in the Japanese version for some reason, even tho they left the Tower of Hera name alone. I assume the tower on Mt Hebra being called "Hera" isn't mere coincidence. It's only one letter difference in both Japanese and its Latinization.
The beta lore makes more sense when you look at some of the dungeons.
The Sheikahs being known for espionage and also being in control of Death Mountain (potentially) makes sense. Impa let Hylians live in Kakariko, which indicates that she gave them the land at the base of the mountain. Additionally, Bottom of the Well and Shadow Temple have torture equipment, which means the place where Kakariko is now, was where the Shiekahs captured their enemies when Hyrule was more war-torn. This could also mean Gorons and the Shiekah were at war at some point.
Something about the blurry, static textures and the general non-reactivity of everything gives me real creepypasta vibes.
I’m sure someone else has already said it but the color saturation, textures and vast nothingness is really reminiscent of quest 64.
Yeah, quest64 really had that nothingness feeling.
I remember my friend back in '99 was deciding between Quest 64 and Ocarina of Time. He thankfully ended up with the latter, and when we eventually rented Quest 64, he wasn't enjoying it at all and was thrilled he didn't make that mistake.
They're practically 3D versions of the Link to The Past Octoroks. Looks Nice. I think they should've left these in the game for the field areas and the purple ones being a water only variation.
I think a lot of the enemies in Ocarina of Time and their beta Zelda 64 designs were mostly based off of Zelda II's original artwork of the enemies in that game. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda 64 started out development as a 3D remake of the original NES Legend of Zelda or Zelda II.
@@retrogamermax8287 When Link gets hurt by some enemies, he does the Zelda 2 damage pose. Could be an accurate guess.
@@retrogamermax8287 Correct! Ocarina of Time began as a remake of Zelda II. There's a DYKG video that talks about it: ua-cam.com/video/CWGOYKBP5DM/v-deo.html
@@SnoopSqueak That's pretty interesting. I sometimes wonder what Ocarina of Time would have been like had they finished the original Zelda II remake build of the game instead of making a whole new game entirely. I'm sure Zelda II on the N64 would have surpassed the original NES Zelda II as a great game. Zelda II wasn't bad, but it sure was pretty hard.
@@YujiUedaFan Plus Shadow Link is in the game and before Ocarina of Time he wasn't seen since Zelda II. Shadow Link does that hurt pose when he's hurt as well like he did in Zelda II.
This Beta's Link has the same dynamics as Link from Twilight Princess
An adult shop in a zelda game? I don't think Miyamoto approved that
I always thought the Sheikah were the "shadows" in that they were used as the Royal assassins/spies, they worked in the shadows. I don't think they were meant to legitimately be the shadows of Hylians
Yeah, they're clearly assassins in OOT, due to the dungeons in Kakariko being full of bloody torture equipment. I wish the released version had more interesting dialogue, since most NPCs are just completely stupid... one even says there used to be a "house" where the well was... yeah, great "house full of bloody racks and invisible sheer drops". How ignorant are the Hylains? Didn't the war end like 10 years ago? (Kid timeline)
TFW always thought about beta OOT as a kid, and then my 8 year old daughter opens this video.
>My genes passed down to her and she subconsciously wants to know too.
Funny how life comes full circle.
Feels exactly like what would happen to me if I had a child.
Lmao "i am older!"
that’s a funky looking octorok
4:03 Zfg plays the lick, then cancels ocarina items.
Tfw that zelda lore is actually accurate.
I wish NPCs like this existed in the final game. Instead all we get are a bunch of mini tutorials. "There used to be a house where the well is" meanwhile it's a torture dungeon... yeah, great "house" there.
@@YujiUedaFan that is dialogue that's in the final game
How can i use the hat physics? like a mod, i mean :(?
Its really cool
I wish all of that was in the game. Idk it just feels rightfully N64-like nostalgia
100k soon!
The texture looks a lot like the Battle for Naboo star wars game for n64
Pretty funky! 😎
Mt. Hebra
*revali's gale intensifies*
this is what i imagine purgatory to look like
This is what I imagine your mom to look like!
The caverns would of been cool actually
Octilleries first appearance was OoT beta? Interesting
imo they probably meant "shadows" as a metaphor.
I like seeing these videos of the ocarina of time beta
It looks like Octillery
I love them so much
I loved so much this version even if a not real version i much prefer that original
Medaillons are cheat very cheat and so cool
Other arrow too
The area also are so cool
I want to know what the shop owner was going to do when he was going to play with you.
Is the lore text in this added in or is it original beta?
Pretty sure original beta. Too bad dialogue in the final game isn't as good.
I hit the bell what of it
Those cuccos look scary, what's with those eyes.
looks like quest 64 to me in parts
Sadly this is the closest we can get to ever playin the spaceword demo, it sucks the build got overwritten, just imagine a full beta / alpha build of ocarina of time.
"Adult" shop, huh? "Play with you"? Sus
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Is ZFG taking a break? Just curious why there are no new content… maybe I missed him say it was break time.
Why are you still doing stream highlights from 2 months ago
Because I don't want to go through the whole stream to find my favourite bit.
Why would you talk to npc's to skip text It's both funny and frustrating x)
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I wish Nintendo would remake the N64 with beefed up specs so they could make a massive remake of OoT with all the Beta elements and ideas they originally had, plus the years of experience to flesh it all out and streamline it.
I agree a full on remake and just go all out in omoj also same with majoras mask for sure to.
@@DPSpade4ever All kinds of games could be redone. New ones too, there'd be tons of potential using a beefed up N64 engine.
@@DPSpade4ever yeah it would honestly be sick if they just made it into one long game. The end of OoT maybe has an extra scene or two at the end that seamlessly goes into MM
@stupid Cat I'm not talking fan made. Also Nintendo makes plenty good games. Quit the mindless hate. Yeah, they suck from time to time. But to blanket state they don't make good games anymore is BS. The Switch has got an amazing library. Recently they put out Metroid Dread, which was awesome. Breath of the Wild 2 is on the way and looks great.
So quit with the hyperbolic hatred. If you're gonna gripe, at least be accurate.
I just want restored beta dialogue. Way more interesting than "That well used to be a house".
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You did not just compare Zelda to metroid. Ciao
Shadow folk? Yo thats twilight lore kinda. So beta shieka idea later repurposed for twilight?
@Zylo Wolf 2.0 True, though all this time I just thought he meant dungeons or items. Never thought Shieka and Twili shared an origin.
Shadow folk means ninjas basically. They operate in secret, not that they're literally shadows. Though I like to think that victims of Sheikahs during the war joined Midna later on. Pretty sure Redeads only exist because of what Sheikahs did where the well and graveyard were placed...
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Why do you care more about Metroid lore then Zelda when you seem to play more Zelda? 😂
:57 I remember this shadow effect as a little kid at someone's house. Is there a way to get that in the normal game?? I certainly remember it in a town area too
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