The Yak28B is the WORST Aircraft in War Thunder and Here's why
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00:00 - Flash back to the past
00:50 - Introduction to the Yak-28
02:37 - Are aircraft like these viable in todays meta?
03:45 - Bombers in General
06:07 - Better late than never
07:12 - Advocate for a War Thunder Roadmap
08:22 - Conclusion
09:46 - Outro - Ігри
he is doing his best okay
Hi Zoltan, i just joined ur discord a few hours ago. Can i ask, do you ever play with random fans from ur discord?
Air RB has needed a gameplay overhaul for like 6 years.
Guys war thunder becomes so more fun when you drop the grind, pick a plane or two that you genuinely just enjoy playing and use it in sim. It's so much more fun and balanced in sim without the ridiculous mouse aim you get in RB. Honestly Sim is where it's at, I can't believe I played war thunder for years before trying out Sim. Now that I've tried it however, I'm never going back.
It also fixes the bomber issue - bombers are far better in sim and do actually function and serve a purpose. People often escort you as well or another bomber will form up with you. It's also the most fun below br 4.0
@@endi3386 ^ This. Just wish it was more populated.
@@endi3386 The problem with bringing bombers in sim is because of the repair cost are insane.
@@mayonotes9849 Not at lower brs where it’s SO much more fun anyway. Lower brs are just a lot more balanced feeling and honestly are just way more fun. Pick some planes you love to fly, forget about grinding and hit the sky. THIS is how you have real fun in war thunder. If you want something to work towards increasing your stats in sim (on your profile) is a good one.
It's a sad truth really, they missed the opportunity to add fun or interesting earlyjets and more ww2 aircraft and still have them viable, and bombers have been pointless for a while, I wish they would add aircraft like the fairly Barracuda but it's kind of to late, years to late to the point no one would care, though at this point it would have a purpose for naval battles.
There are soooo many ww2 aircraft they could still add
Nah bro Bolton paul defiant
@@SP-sy5nq yes and make the grind that much longer?
@@sinxsideways5900 at this point it would be hardly a drop in the bucket, what's a couple rank 2s here or scattered rank 3s there, or in the case of the Paul Defiant a rank 1. It's not like there would be 5 rank 4s added to every line in every nation. It would be scattered low tier things.
@@Mr_Englander ha! How about the Blackburn Roc while were at it.
Enduring Confrontation should be the primary Air RB gamemode. It has something for everyone and every aircraft, and is way better in general.
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Should be a smaller scale
Its literally the most lame variant of the Yak-28 they could have added. They could have added a variant with AAMs or one with proper guided AGMs, but instead they gave us one with its only standout feature being a "weapon guiding radar" that didn't get fucking modeled in-game with its associated weapons.
Story of Gaijin, add the lamest variant.
Don't worry it might be a working machine next patch. I think it happend once but can't rememeber what plane it was. But true, just a bomber with even worse guns than il-28 or tu-14. Not to mention less bombs so you can't even try to bomb tanks.
there is no Yak-28 with guided air to ground munitions, apart from Yak-28N, with a pair of anti-radiation missiles; which incidentally is a failed prototype.
As for "weapon guiding radar", it's a radar connected to the bombsight. That is all. Allows all-weather bomb delivery. It is not associated to any specialized weapons.
You know what is better ? Yak 28 and B-57 on the same BR.
@@gaiofattos2 The B-57B at 8.3 (highest BR one) is literally a whole BR bellow the Yak-28 which is 9.3. What are you smoking??
I feel like this plane is just for highspeed CAS in ground rb, drop the 3k bomb where you see a red dot and re-arm
Or just pancake and respawn like most players do...
The only "bombers" I find actually useful are either the ones that can be used as an effective fighter/interceptor such as the helldiver or the Swedish B-18
The helldiver is one of my favorites as I can kill a few planes and when I'm on the deck I can use my cannons and gunpods to get some tickets, that thing really can't climb so might as well ground pound. It can help get both a number and a ticket advantage so it's definitely useful
what about the ones with strong defensive armament
@@Abi-fo7gh you mean like the b17s? a platform renowned for its durability and armament, might as well be wet tissue paper, since they dont have increased durability to match mouse aim accuracy buff
@@charlescourtwright2229 Plus they haven't nerfed the mighty .50cal. In my experience the .50 is better at killing things than most cannons. I can tear a plane's wing off with a short burst of .50s, while with 30mms or even ground based bofors cannons it takes multiple shots to kill something very small most of the time.
@@utzius8003 after playing German and American air, 50 cals are better because of more guns, more rounds, faster fire rate, better shell velocity, all with a minor nerfed to the damage.
@@kirbotastic9397 The biggest problem is that .50cals can tear off entire wings in a single strafe, while even 20mms like the Hispano or 30mm mineshells from the MK108/3 can hit and not cause any damage, even though realistically one to two hits would have shattered any aircraft.
Gaijin: *It's either new vehicles or new premiums, take it or leave it.*
"G'day I'm Ash" is the best thing to hear in the morning
I now miss the good ol' times when I used to play the B-25 on Hokkaido around 3 years ago
"We're gonna add this WW2 technology no one gives a flying fuck about"
*I do, I hate jets and missile thunder. Not a fun game up there in high tier air RB, I'll keep flying the warbirds I **_came_** to WT for, thanks lmao*
I like all of the planes in the game including the jets, bombers, prop fighters and ground attackers all of them (except heavy bombers) have a roll in the game for example the md4a I am so glad they added that because I gives me something to uses as a ground attacker for my 8.7 lineup
ngl I enjoy flying supersonics. Flying the T-2, its not the meta. However I always look behind my back whenever i think there is someone and I dont get killed by missile every damn time. It is fun if you know what you are doing. As for props, its always afk climb, probably get fucked, maybe get one kill, try to kill that one high flying bomber, spend 30min, then lose, and then rinse and repeat.
@@retardmoguss See I main the G.55 sottoserie 0 and the MC.205 serie 3, gameplay is always intense with those Italian birds
@@TWH_Pixy I use the fw190-a5 japanese premium for grind and yeah, after the boring initial afk climb which it struggles at, my particular plane is quite fun and I average 3kills a match (because i have mg151 lead indicator implanted on my heart) but it gets tedious after some time when a bomber starts trying to be oversmart instead of going to airfield and j out (for no repair sl). For the most part its GAIJIN who cant balance stuff properly.
@@retardmoguss tbh if they want bombers balanced they should put some kind of "retreat" function in the map where a high flying bomber can go to that and leave the match without repair costs but lose the match if he's the last player
9:18 Exactly! I want to fly my bombers and look at them. not stare out of a barely modelled cockpit and have to use half my keyboard just to keep the plane from slamming into the ground. if i wanted a simulated experience there is dozens of other games that do it much better.
sorry to tell you this, but if you have to use half the fucking keyboard to not crash, you're just bad at air sim, either practice, change settings or just leave it all together.
@@norbertberta4429 It's just an example of how overly complicated Sim can be if you want a real genuine Simulator experience.
I mean, there's always arcade. Bombers (especially ww2 ones) actually have a chance and can make a difference in a match. There's also a much lower chance of losing due to your nation as teams are mixed.
Honestly, most people just say 'Ew, arcade' while missing out on a much better gamemode than air rb.
@@jojomaster7675 Arcade doesn’t even address the problem in the first place... the issues bombers have are just as relevant in arcade as they are in Realistic regardless of nation. If I knew Arcade actually had the problems addressed, I’d play it but since it doesn’t, I won’t bother.
@@jkrull05 You won't see how it works unless you actually play the gamemode.
1) Bomber gunners in ab are *very potent* . They target up to 800m away, and deal considerable damage. Some bombers (although not all) are actually somewhat durable.
2) They actually matter, as ab is about tickets, and not a fighter deathmatch. A bomber targeting bases or ground units can do as much for a team as any fighter can.
The only problem not addressed (except some durability issues on certain bombers) is space climbing, however due to rate of climb, it's only a big deal in jet matches.
I mean the reason why most people have stopped playing is, no visual range fixes like dots, no fixes to gameplay or maps really. Also, tanks are more miserable with ulq, no map changes, spawn camping, helicopter spam, aircraft spam and no real objective in general. Its the same game with thrown in modern advancements that don't make any sense for the game itself... also we can't forget them saying they fixed a bug and it's still there lmfao. It just shows they don't test their own game.
RB enduring confrontation sounds like a nice change of pace, i love sims play style but dont always want to 100% on the controls every second so i dont crash. a more casual and extended kind of conflict where you can vibe on the side while waiting for something to fight
Im wondering what would happen if they introduce like a "bombers" game mode and removed them from Air realistic. Air realistic would be left for fighters + ground attack.
The bombers in their own game mode would maybe have to bomb some sort of objectives, and could be set up to get attacked by AI fighters. The games would obviously be smaller but I feel like that might be fun.
Yes I would love a gamemode where bombers are the center of the game, and it could maybe even be a place for fighters, like for escorting bombers, protecting them against interceptors or something like that
@@Witops3816 Yea, say its a max of 6 or 4 bombers, there could be 1-2 fighters spots, just as bonbers are limited in Air RB
Maybe a mode like Front Line but with better armored targets that fighters can't pierce? Or a naval battle where you can immediately start on planes.
As a mainly groundRB player these days I don't mind seeing new bombers being added because its stuff I'll use in groundRB but I feel just terrible grinding them up in airRB to unlock some essential upgrades (countermeasure/bigger payloads)
Exactly. This guy sounds like an absolute knob
That intro was nostalgic.. and I didnt even play WT in the early days
Eh, no matter what I'm still gonna enjoy playing bombers when the mood strikes me.
I definitely don't agree with last-man spaceclimbing though.
gaijin: oh it is? i have a special idea for vehicles in that certain nation
*MOVES TO 1.0*
The bombers have had a major nerf, after Red Skies update. What is up with the bases respawning? Where are the Armored Vehicles that make up the new base? Why do we have to wait until all bases are destroyed, for the new bases to emerge? These are the questions I need answers to.
I feel you, Ash. I play the He 162 a lot and there's almost always more Ju 288's than fighters. These useless dumbasses almost always just bomb and die, maybe you'll get one good pilot that tries to gunship. The amounts of matches I've had to carry (or try to) in the 162 is ridiculous though because of the bombers (and useless German teamates in general).
The bomber players can only do so much. A big flying target that disintegrates when hit with anything harder than a .50 needs to avoid combat
They need to punish people wo space climb with fighters and bombers. And nerf the both repair costs of bombers and sl modifiers of it. So that it becomes playable enough but not being used as a afk sl printing annoyance to everyone at the lobby like 288 or B-29, after that create new mechanics for bombers that gives them a thing to do
@@Sevastous Sim is where it's at. Bombers serve a purpose (and are actually very hard to take on a sole fighter), the games are longer and feel overall more balanced without the incredible unrealistic and stupidly accurate mouse aim. Once I tried sim I never went back, it makes war thunder fun again. Just pick a vehicle you like a lot and fly about - forget about grinding and unlocking new planes, just play for the fun of it and to get your stats really good.
I main the ta 152 h and I see them 288s all the time. In most cases I'm the only fighter with maybe 1 k4, and U have to dogfight 6super corsairs and a spacefire.
@@kirbotastic9397 Yup. Maybe a P-51H here or there. It gets worse during events like SUMMER or WINTER, but hey, it's better than an uptier lol.
One thing I'd like to see is a mechanic we've seen in titles like Ace Combat. The map corner that the bomber spawns on should be a "RTB" boundary. So when you get the "return to battlefield" thing on that map corner, when you fly off and come back in it rearms your bomb payload, as if simulating that aircraft RTB and another "new" bomber coming in to continue the mission.
It would allow people to continue doing what they need to do, bomb bases... without feeling the need to space climb endlessly because they know they can't rearm at the airfield because they'll never be able to climb to altitude again. For lower tiers space climbing is more of an issue for sure, but in jets especially from 9.3 onwards now we've got plenty of aircraft that can gain altitude in no time at all.
The Lightning at 9.7 is a great example of this, I chased a space climbing Vautour on Spain up to almost 40,000ft and put the bugger out of his misery with a Red Top. I also think that AI units killing each other shouldn't contribute to ticket bleed, as it allows too many exploits such as camping an AF with SAM's so nobody can kill you, and win the game via AI which happened to me just a few days ago. If you give people a reason to coninue playing I think it will cut down "exploitative" bomber play quite a bit. Gaijin just need to show a modicum of effort and give bombers the ability to do continue in their intended mission/role after that initial payload has gone.
They had that in a ruhr or rhine map a few years ago, but they never implemented it further
In WW2 mode sometimes bombers are still fun but once your empty you are just awaiting death cause landing goes 2 ways .
1 your team is winning and they are pushing over the line fast
2 your team is losing and you own base became hostile airspace
So all you can do is drop 1 load and hope for the best ...
Actually with things like the early Pe-2 or B5N/B6N i can make 2 bombing sorties easily, with a bit of luck 3. My record was 4 sorties with the B6N1
well, clearly gaijin think about ground RB First and AIR RB after (or maybe not) ... and then, this thing happen...
i wish there was a cool PVE Mode like EC just with one Side being only Players the other Side being good AI and a lot of stupid swarm AIs and like dunno 30 to 60% reduced rewards or some stuff like that.
maybe less Airfields so defending a Airfield against rare Bomberformations would make sense
I would suggest that the Yak28B was meant more for RB Ground than RB Air at 9.3 it'll make for a Good CAS aircraft for ground battles...
The plane is beautiful.
But I'd rather use a PE-8 with I-15 fighter support.
Why not use your user base to create momentum in a roadmap suggestion on the forums?
Btw, Yak-28B (and hopefully Yak-28P not too long from now) do fit well into Enduring Confrontation. Other bombers too as there hunting objectives is key to victory.
Bombers need their own mode but actually I don't mind facing space climbers because if that's the case I have the opportunity to farm SL and RP on ground targets also they are more often seen during crafting events (those events should have tasks that give more materials to reduce such behavior)
OS2U best top tier fighter B)
change this dudes mind , see... you cant
Hey man, I am kinda getting this feeling from ya that every vehicle in the game that Gaijin adds is supposed to be meta relevant, and actually good. The Yak28 is a bomber, you're not supposed to be going around killing fighters and stuff. The gun is there as more of a "formality." I want to see the Vulkan and such, but they're not going to be meta aircraft. Some people just want to see certain planes.
Personally, I see that he wants Aircraft to actually have relevancy on the whole instead of being the new Meta. Also Every aircraft should be good for where it is instead at a single BR having: dog shit, mediocre, good, and best. ( and you can find this at a lot of BRs where this is the case though in ground it's more amplified )
I want historical aircraft especially bombers just give me the B-36 and XTB2D and I'm happy
Maybe get bomber squads?
Like you turn it on in match maker and then your job is to protect one or more bombers but you have to stay near them, like 4km at max?
Idk I think that they should add realistic enduring confrontation but without a spoting system kinda like ground battles because some of the most fun I have in the game is when I get into dog fights in ground battles without all of the spoting of targets so you can sneak up on people and dive on them
I disagree, bombers below 5.3 absolutely impact the game.
I only use bombers when grinding out neglected air lines because sometimes low tier fighters are painful (cough cough Italy)
Bruh ngl I played a game against you yesterday and you did pretty well in the yak 28
Missile Thunder........ Spot on. I have been bitching about it for months and Ash sums in up in one simple phrase.
its become a common phrase in the community. Top tier really is nothing but missile thunder
what they need to do is change the death match model of air RB into an objective based type with multiple respawns like Battlefield's Rush mode. have a number of objectives that each team needs to complete to win and each player on a team will have to choose whether to go for the objective or to stop the other team from getting to theirs. meaning that you will not a have every fighter in a deathmatch furball and other plane types will have a purpose with team play becoming important again
I think you need to look at bombers from a Ground RB perspective. Yes in Air realistic they're pretty useless, but having a solid attacker/bomber in ground can win your team the match. The problem is that you can't just allow people to use bombers in ground and not air battles. I think there needs to be a 2 or 3 bomber limit per team in air RB because there's no way to have bombers play a good role in air RB
"Komrade, this is not fast bomber, this is R&D for Space Programme"
Every time i watch his videos it feels like one of those podcasts, that you think you have no time for but actually listen the whole one cuz its just good
That intro gave me throw backs man, I two was a WT bomber pilot and I wore it with pride be for gaijin destroyed there guns
Sim is where it's at man, by far the best mode imo where bombers are actually hard to take on and serve a purpose in the match.
@@endi3386 I played sim years ago, it's was great TBH. I was in my B25, killing it I was really it's fun as well cause you had to look for the targets.
@@hampz8981 Yeah - you feel like a real pilot and it separates the pilots from the people who can use a mouse and keyboard well.
The problem is IRL bombers ARE the mission and fighters are mission insurance. In war thunder bombers just exist trying to do their own thing in what is basically team deathmatch. I think there needs to be an RB game mode that has respawns and maybe a quarter of the map for each team that is a safe zone to prevent airfield camping. Then have the score focus around destroying the other teams bases, infrastructure, and ground vehicles. No points for AA kills and the winning team will have an xp pool that is distributed out to the players that stayed till the end.
they could bring 100 new planes in a month if they would want to.
but they need to trickle them in slowly for a perpetual grind.
My mates and I play sim ec for EXACTLY the reasons that you talked about in this video. We use the time to chill out and have some fun. Mostly formation flying bombers with fighter escorts. But every patch Gaijin increases repair costs (which includes spawn costs for sim) and decreases rewards you recieve for playing the game. I can't count the number of games when I will get more than 10 air kills in a 40-120 minute match, just to earn a meager 100k silver lions. Up to 2 hours of playtime and all we get, after paying out the ass for spawn and repair costs, is less silver lions than I could get from a good ground rb match. Each update makes it worse and worse. There are already so few people who play sim and they just keep trying to kill, in my opinion, the best gamemode War Thunder has to offer.
This is because people were abusing bombers in sim to grind out the tech tree. Bombers (Zombers specifically) are extremely hated in sim compared to since they are the ones that cause sim games to be less valuable. At this point gaijin would make much more money removing bombers from the game, and just use multirole aircrafts
@@teehazmat can you blame the zombers though? Sim gives extremely good rewards for basically easier gameplay in a bomber, it makes the grind a lot better like 5x better, ive played with Be-6 in sim a bit and i can get 200k SL games and 70k rp just for bombing bases and kill anyone that comes close to me
sometimes I take the special task that is to bomb 15 bases, and I always spaceclimb so enemy fighters can’t kill me before I can bomb, i always announce to my squad when I finished climbing by saying “I have successfully docked with the ISS”
I remember way back in the past when I brushed off this game. I found my original account as well, deleted it. Crazy shit.
The plane is meant to be used in Tank RB. Air RB has needed gameplay overhaul since 2015, when people predicted this problem (gaijin running out of vehicles to add, then deciding to add strategic bombers like Yak28B, then the vehicle being useless because it couldn't compete with fighter jets in Air RB).
I started playing warthunder as a bomber cause I simply love it, I have all the b17s, the b24, and b29 and it's gotten me millions of lions and many planes researched. 💰
That wacky new prototype forced me to grind 4 more jets to get the mirage I was researching
I feel you so hard with this one.
Started playing war thunder in my h6k4 in arcade on my laptop. Now i dont play bombers really anymore, the b29 and especially tu4 era was nice and fun, but nowadays its just a big repair cost mess. They never added an objective focused game mode so bombers could be useful and escorted by your fighter teammates as you mentioned in the video..
Really sad to see the state of them in 2022 even :(
I think we need a max service ceiling for bombers like Ace Combat where if they get to the top, they just stall out and it keeps them there. It isnt like 10k alt but it isnt so low that people have no room to work with
We really need new gamemodes. BTW wasnt there someone who was making a custom game that was inspired of a game? wish to see that again
I hate losing the match because bombers rush and kill and you can't climb fast enough to catch them. Or the last guy alive is an He-177 roleplaying a spaceshuttle.
That being said, I do enjoy playing bombers from time to time, specifically the Japanese Navy ones like the B5N or the D4Y series (which, actually, is one of the best fighters Japan has, although it has atrocious bomb load).
The class I personally believe to be the most neglected from my experience as a noob are heavy fighters and interceptors.
unlike the vauture that thing is probably fast enough to survive bombing a base and returning
The Yak-28 may have no place in Air battles but we still need bombing aircraft for Ground RB
That Garageband intro brought me back to junior high lol
How? I don't see the resemblance.
So basically "it isnt meta so I hate it"
Bullseye
miss the old days
I totally agree, Id rather watch you guys having fun than put myself through the pain of grinding that's no fun at all. Ty yet another good vid!
I’m really bummed on the sea vixion. It doesn’t even have a cannon I mean strap a cannon on it !!
My man, it has four 16G missiles with a 6km Detect Range, 12km Max range, and a good tracking cone that hits Mach 2.5. It performs well enough without guns.
i personally would dig a one year annual update that addresses many problems and allows devs to focus their energy.
Loved that intro, miss the old days of this game.
I only played bombers when this thing came to PS4 lol
I love that intro so much
I just want a bomber revamp and adding the B-52
The best thing they can do is reducing the fucking costs on sim so that everytime I try o play it, I dont go bankrupt. Realistic battles are fun as they are, they should promote their sim too.
They have the exact same game mode for pre ww2 vehicles and cold war vehicles. It's not that jet bombers are useless, it's that the game mode doesn't allow them to be useful. We need new modes like pure air to air tdm and missions designed in a way where bombers are key and must be protected. Also ranked duels, 2v2s, etc, would be cool af.
As someone who regularly plays the yak-28, i'll give my opinion.
To me, the yak-28 is a grind vehicle. It's great at getting regular amounts of RP, and if played correctly, it can also get large amounts of SL due the the fact it will rarely get shot down. A typical game in the yak goes like this, spawn in, climb to 10km, drop bombs, return to base, j out cause your team is dead. Another one is, spawn in, climb to 10km, drop bombs, return to base, rearm cause your team is still going, climb to 7km or 3km depending on situation, drop bombs, return to base, repeat.
In the second case you can help out your team by getting a point victory, which happens often. Fighters are vehicles designed for the short game, bombers/attackers are designed to play the long game. When there's just 1 or 2 fighters on the enemy team camping their airfield, I'm willing to bet you're would praise the fact if you have a bomber still alive on your team. Cause then you can win by points and bypass their camping behaviors.
The only time I will ever basecamp/spaceclimb is in situations where the enemy uses 'blind hunt' in these cases, it's not fair or reasonable for me to try to dogfight against fighters in a plane not designed to dogfight. Especially when they can see me from 30kms away and i won't see them until they're 2km away.
I just recently unlocked it and it is the easiest grinder I’ve ever used. Hardly get shot down, and if it does, it’s after 1-3 bombing runs. It can get its bombs off before anything can intercept it. Definitely the best plane to grind out rank 6-7 with. Although it’s incredibly boring to run back and forth to the bases.
Do WT have Yak-28P Variant ?
I've seen this exact video multiple times on different channels for years now :^)
I got a feeling that the Yak28 is added by Gaijin to convince us those light jet bombers are not a good idea
All gaijin needs to start doing is stop trying to milk everyone and just listen to their playerbase.
Milking people IS their business model. Fix bugs? Nah. Listen to community feed back on game modes? Nah. Add a new prem that's OP and the only real way to grind top tier? YESYESYESYES YESSSS!!!!
nah they won't mate, it's their business models, gonna grab all the money before the game finally dead!
I can't get started in WT due to grindage through repetitive / duplicate vehicles and how long it would take to get to modern armor. Shame. Best Regards!
That is fair. Just know that WT is a lot of fun even at BR 2 and upwards. To this day, I tend to enjoy BR 4 the most, which you can reach relatively quickly. This is not WoT...
@@donkarnage2568 Not everybody is enjoying lower BR. A lot of ppl only want modern stuff
Yak-28 to the Moon!
Yakoklev Coin has reached all times high after UA-cam star Ash says "it will climb to the Moon".
If you fly bombers (fighter bombers) ,you're paying to be someones target. Ground attack- total waste of time .
Ash would love it if they add a SR-72 black bird that comes with bombs
Sadly that will never be a thing. Unless they add the XB-70, and even that is very unlikely.
@@nighttide3079 yea but it would make some bombers fun for a short while its a shame
@@The_Whispering Then just add bombers like the B-57 hustler or the TU-22-m2. There's a a few mach 3 bombers
@@nighttide3079 yea but WT is WT
0:25 now you can only get 2000 sl
New game modes would be great. Maybe like a realistic aircraft carrier strike where you try to kill the other team's carrier group where ur forced to start in a fighter and can buy ur way into an attacker or bomber with game points. Just something new.
"at least the buccanner is good" new summer event : haha yeah bout that
Enduring confrontation realistic battles. Bam
Just got it today finally
I play on console and I want to buy the p38k I really want to buy it I don't know if they will sell it on console
Buccaneers suffers abit as well, you can either choose flares or AAM not both. Not to mention it doesn't even get the correct missles it had irl. It's fun to play but it can be a pain.
The buccaneer is very fun in sim battles.
i know this might sound wierd
but some people enjoy bombers and DONT want to be in a massive supersonic furball full of radar guided missiles
True but from gameplay perspective when you get to real jet bombers (not like first arado that is just slightly faster with bombs than ju 288 you will see in mamy battles) it just throw a dice if they manage to intercept you before or after you droped bombs. Or you could just climb to spacer from the start to increase your chnaces but annoy enemy team that could just go for next game if not for your stalling.
Gaijin watching this video: Hoes mad
Nice intro 👍🏽
Simple solution is perm RB EC. I absolutely adore Air Sim with bombers because they finally have a place. Only problem is the SL cost which makes student loans look cheap. But it feels like an actual air battle and not boring ass fighter TDM. Shame I'm a shit pilot in sim, I would play it more.
I'd have to disagree with the buccaneer being useless, using it to its full potential solo I can end a match through pinpoint accurate bombing
I'm the exact opposite of you i'm a bomber main and most rb matches in my b29 i end up killing the entire enemy team with my gunners which i find too be very fun and amusing but for the enemy its probably extremely aggravating too be annihilated by a bomber
Grinding from Mig.27M, The Yak28B sits at 10.7 and is no more then cannon fodder for , F-4s. Edit: Repair cost is 10k per match if you pick the 3k kg bomb.
Honestly I can relate. My favorite plane is the Starfighter and it is formally regarded as beyond terrible in high tier gameplay other than the 104J.
i mean 2x AIM-9Bs and triple shit maneuverability at 10.0 isn't exactly something that makes every jet enthusiast ejaculate so...
its literal only redeeming factors are its speed ant its probably best gun at top tier
@@molstad182 it's my favorite plane of all time but definitely not my favorite to play
Local man screams bombers are bad at the clouds, news at 6.
The biggest part of the problem comes from Gaijin, for all the reasons you've highlighted, but another part is from the fighter jocks. The problem is that Gaijin simply can't make bombers relevant or survivable because every time they do, the fighter players throw a hissy fit.
Would it be more fun and feel fair, if a single bomber pilot , who may as well be afk for the rest of the game, after dumping their ordonace, wins by tickiet bleed while space climbing, while their own team isn't there anymore?
@@cahdoge One bomber, no. A few bombers, I don't see a reason why not.
Always use joystick ...and first person or cockpit view (in realistic) bit of a major disadvantage most of the time but mouse flying is so dull.
Yak-28 is a first supersonic bomber in the game... in means... dropping bombs at super sonic speeds... while any other planes that can go supersonic with bombs... they can't... they need to drop down below mach 1 to drop bombs
From what i saw Yak-28 can drop bombs at beyond mach 1 speeds
stunning intro
Well for me it got to the point where was mainly just flying in Sim in VR, but since they fucked that up and broke it, along with the way the spaghetti code seems to be slowly unravelling, I couldn't give a fuck about War Thunder anymore.
I can barely stand to play more than 3 matches before I'm pissed off.
They add Realistic EC and bombers are fixed
Nope not really going to fix bombers. Gaijin are known for crap game modes.
@@Ash007YT true, but at least you could use them more than for one bombing run
This is a "Welcome to War Thunder" moment
1, the airfield camping issue only exists because for some stupid reason airfields have aa, they shouldn't or it should diminish every time your team loses a plane so the alst 1-2 planes you have alive cannot benefit from base aa at all
2, some people actually enjoy bombers, teammates be damned, and they have a right to do that, balancing the ratio of fighters to bombers for both sides is a practical and viable solution to this issue
3, bombers do infact have a place in the current game and i know most people will dislike this, they are excelent for grinding rp, thow a talisman on a bomber and you can quickly research all of the top planes in a tech tree, your team may lose, but youwill reguardless rake in xp, and that is a meaningful and to some people valuable use for bombers.{also attackers}
4 if gaijin would just make a new air rb taking inspiration from both ground rb and enduring confrontation, with smaller teams, more varied objectives and multiple spawns this wouldn't be an issue at all.
so in essence adding bombers is fine, but there are other underlying issues that make it suffer, but bombers do exist, they did exist, and they should be represented in game