"Men treating women like objects and discarding them." A good point. I think this is referred to as "pumping and dumping" by many dating coaches. It should not be a practice that Christian men engage in.
@@christiancoach9418 even if I were to accept your characterization of the Bill Gates and Barack Obama as "nice guys" (which i don't) Those are just 2 exceptions in a SEA of nice guys finishing last
@@MaxPowers2.0 I speak from a Christian perspective because I'm a Christian who is listening to 2 Christian guys talk about dating. My assumption is that most of the people here are also Christians. If you are not one then when I suggest that Christian men should not "pump and dump" that will not mean anything to you. Additionally, do yourself a favor and read "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills (now every race of men can join). The top business and political men in the world are all "nice guys". By nice I mean mainstream (a public life of "pumping and dumping" will disqualify you from such positions). By nice I mean that you don't see men like Barack and Bill out here publicly living and promoting a "pump and dump" lifestyle You can't become a Barack or Bill without being in the mainstream. They're not "2 exceptions". They're just the high profile ones. The Corporate world and political world are filled with lesser known men who are currently responsible for creating laws for you that you will have to obey (or else). If that's finishing last then sign me up!!!!!!
As Christian men but nobody looking at natural instincts most men will desire multiple women sexually even when you married these desires always there now its up to you to act on it but humans can simply get horny and just want the feeling to be fixed its natural
I thank my parents so much for not bringing politics nor social issues into my house. They just brought fun to me. And when I was old enough I shaped my opinions by the knowledge I already had.
I find it ironic that men now believe in toxic masculinity when they bring up toxic femininity. Sometimes it's just used to derail. Although I agree both exist
Nah, its just to prove a point that feminazis are a bunch of hypocrites. If there is such a thing as “toxic masculinity”, there HAS to be its equivalent on femininity, right? But no, that can’t be true, otherwise they’d admit they CAN be evil, which to their mind, that CAN’T be possible, whamen are such ANGELS, right? “Toxic masculinity” is nothing more than a stupid term made to push this one-sided narrative that men are bad. Yes, all feminists-feminazis (because there is no real difference) believe all strong men are bad and rapists-in-the-making and that’s why terms like “toxic masculinity” are just terms to reinforce their narrative. From my part, I don’t believe being a strong, dominant and aggressive man is toxic and I’ll continue being that until I fucking die. Peace.
@@TheDarkOne9942 did you even watch this video. He even pointed out that being masculine (strong dominant etc) is okay. What makes it toxic is excessiveness to a point that you oppress. Same goes to toxic femininity.
Masculinity and femininity are just terms to define how we typically raise boys and girls and which kind of behaviour they will then develop (probably). It's just two categories, it's a model you can use to organizie and talk about toxic behaviour. Just because you often see a certain toxic behaviour in women it doesn't mean it is toxic femininity and vice versa. This conversation should not be about who is worse or who is the true enemy. Both men and women can have toxic behaviour and the categories just help to talk about where they come from (and with that I mean society and how we nurture children, not biology).
If toxic masculinity is so bad, then why do girls like being bad boys first and then when things are slowing down, they try to go for the nice guy last? That sounds like toxic femininity to me causing that. Toxic masculinity does exist, but it doesn't affect people as much as you think. There are always going to be toxic men in the world as much as toxic woman. Both sides play into the negative role a little bit. If toxic femininity does not exist, then why do girls feel pressured to wear tight jeans that makes them uncomfortable to move around? Why women have to wear the tightest and most exposed clothing in order to validate the beauty? Why do women spend hours in the mirror to put on makeup because they don't feel beautiful with the natural beauty? Why do girls fight more than men and hold grudges that last forever? Why do girls gossip and always feel the need to be in every single person's business? Why do they feel that day have to demand that got to pay for everything, because she feels like she's the prize? Why does she feel entitled to have full custody of the kids and the mom and demand child support end alimony from her husband, when she should have her own job in her own money? Why she feels like a woman is never wrong no matter how she feels and negatively react to things? Why does she feel like she can hit a guy but the guy can't hit her or you'll go to jail? Why she feels like she can end a relationship whenever she wants and suffer no consequences and move on with her life with a new partner knowing that she never was invested in the relationship in the first place? Why she feels like she should have men approaching her and giving her the dream of marriage and kids? Why is it okay for women to have a platform to bash and complain about men, but and then men cannot bash or complain about women or they'll be cancelled? Why is it okay for women to be empowered to express their feelings, but consider men weak when they express their feelings and emotions? Why is it wrong for men to look and think of a women sexually, but women can exploit themselves and think of themselves sexually? Why is it okay for women to have equal opportunity and income as men, but they do not share the equal responsibilities financially as men? Why is it okay for a woman to depend on a guy and be broke, but guys cannot be broke and depend on a woman financially? Why are media outlets and sales products always geared more towards women then men? Why only a happy wife equals a happy life? Why are there more women as teachers which help women and little girls graduate more than men and men are dropping out at a higher rate causing men to not have higher-income jobs? Why is it taught that it's okay for men to cater to women, but it's wrong for women to cater to men? Why is it important to have a feminist group, but it is wrong to have a men's right group? both men and women should have groups that empowers them without making the other sacrifice something. We both need masculine and feminine energy and not misuse them to dominate the other oh, that's when it becomes toxic. But honestly I think some women just need to stop complaining so much about something that they don't know much about or pay attention to , they keep getting in their feelings and being offended over everything and never try to reflect on themselves. Even in the Bible it says do not let your heart to see you for a good reason. And this old man is being toxic and being abusive, then simply leave him. If he's making it difficult for you to leave that you stopping you from doing so, then get the authorities involved, it's not difficult in this day and age.
You're being too logical and sensible. It's always mens fault for everything. A woman can do no wrong and you're a sexist if you say otherwise. Only fathers and other women can police women.
@@Okutox but it's factual that toxic masculinity and toxic femininity happened. And it's affecting people and there's proof of it in our everyday lives that we witness. Is some of it blown out of proportion? Yes. But it happens a lot, and I'm just pointing out the double standard.
I love listening to you speak. You talk with rounded wisdom and understanding. You thought about this very well, I can see your reasoning. I understand where you’re coming from! You speak truth and you talk sense!! God bless you brother ! Keep it up🔥🙌🏾 As a young Christian woman, I found this was very insightful 🙏🏾
When it comes to toxic masculinity and femininity, I see it as nothing more than a gender war between men and women for human superiority. One side thinks that toxic masculinity is an evil and the other thinks that toxic femininity is an evil. It's based around who wants to be right in society more, who wants to be privileged and entitled more, and who wants to have seniority more. This is what's destroying the sanctity of men and women socializing with one another. One wants to use anger and hate on another and boast to the world that they're superior above the masses. I just wanna steer clear away from the toxicity of our society. What I am seeing from toxic masculinity and femininity is both men and women getting set to spill each other's blood from their bodies. This world has been stripped to its core enough to have the force of hate control their lives.
I like the way he breaks it down. I didn’t understand either before I watched this video and now it makes a lot of since. Knowing that my moms took on that role of toxic masculinity because of having to provide for my sister and I due to my pops. So, that makes us not inform her about anything because of the amount of pressure she’s given us as kids.
this sounds more like sinful behavior instead of "toxic masculinity" "toxic femininity" bc women can belittle men just as much as men do so to women,women can bully men not in the same way as men may do but still bullying nonetheless .These actions don't come from just men they come from both men and women bc anyone can be toxic there is no gender specific toxicity.
Great discussion! Im curious how we can reduce this behavior. I developed few traits related to toxic masculinity, surely by series of over analyzed events I assumed were negative at most. I considered control as a solution. I have been running thoughts and somewhat fought to shift the course of my reasoning. I am still emotional, romantic and inspired by creative outlooks. I find a balance between freedom and love by setting clear goals, accepting twists and hardness every now and then as growth. Meanwhile, I strongly aspire close, healthy relationships and treating them well on a daily basis with appreciation.
I think this would work better if men spoke to other men about toxic masculinity and women should address toxic femininity , Because toxic masculines and toxic feminines enjoy talking about the inconsistencies of the opposite sex to avoid addressing them selves.
Great video although I disagree. people have to get out of the mindset of assigning gender to behavior and stop placing yourself or others into checkable boxes. We all have freedom of expression. There is no one way a man should talk or behave and there is not a specific way a lady should behave or speak or interact with the world. We are all allowed to be free thinkers and do as we please as long as it is within the law to do so.
Very good content. I went to a relationship workshop and we talked about exactly that. It has changed my life. Feminism is destroying our society right now, full toxic but gets a lot of support from people powerful people who only care about their own agenda.
@Ruby Hypatia I've never felt I had any privilege beyond the physical. I've always had to work for whatever I have achieved in my life and when I have any surplus I give back to my community. I've never been given special treatment or special preferences or special law in my favor. The idea of Male privilege is a myth. Everyone is equal under the law at worst men have the short end of the stick, even then what's talked about in the media is how much women are victims.
So Toxic Masculinity came out of a result of Me too Movement and to address why Sexual Assault is so prevalent. I personally feel like "toxic femininity " is an all lives matter as a response. I feel like this video was more on gendered roles.
@Ray Marquez i am incredibly sorry what happened to you, but I dont think that dubs "toxic femininity " but rather an emotionally abusive relative. For ex, toxic masculinity is when what is stereotyped as a male trait that ends up harming the women. Ie " i sexually assaulted her because she wore tempting clothes and as a man i cant control myself "
@@spicy_lola Exactly I Laugh At This Toxic Mas. Toxic Fem. When In Fact It's The Individual who is Toxic...ITS LIKE WHEN CORRUPT COPS JUSTIFY KILLING AN UNARMED BLACK PERSON BY SAYING "WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME" OR "BLACK KILLING BLACKS IN CHICAGO"...LIKE SO A WHOLE RACE SHOULD BE BLAME FOR CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS...SMH
@@spicy_lola why is it seen as an isolated incident when women do something like terrible but when men do, it's seen as a direct correlation to our masculinity? This idea in itself is what I see as toxic femininity.
The idea behind toxic masculinity is toxic behaviors taught to men to fit into the man gender role. Women also learn toxic behaviors to fit into the woman gender role. I see it more as when someone says “men get harassed too” when talking about women getting harassed. It’s a real thing that should be discussed more but it seems 9/10 times it is brought up it is used as a whataboutism to derail a conversation instead of bringing light to the situation.
What about toxic people,people are so worried about the wrong things now days peace and love family time to unite on all fronts males and females no more time to waste i challenge everyone who reads this we are 1✊
negative as a result of too much positive = toxic mothers enabling bad behavior by "over nurturing" fathers enabling bad behaviors by over protecting negative result of negative behaviors = toxic female who lies and tricks him into raising a child that isnt his male who beats and overtly abuses his significant other negative as a result of toxicity turned inward female self harm and self abuse male risky behavior and aggression Both men and women attempt suicide, but men tend to die from it at higher rates due to choosing more fatal methods. I appreciate that you made a video on this topic, but i feel like this video describes toxic feminine traits as stemming from being "too nurturing and selfless" rather than describing the actual scope and breadth of how toxic femininity can be expressed.
To each their own but , I felt your example of toxic femininity was based off of your experience maybe , But I felt like you provided excuses for women who just use their vaginal privilege to get away with everything . Courts, relationships, violent encounters , etc etc
I can’t wait until masculine, feminine, black, white no longer exist. We’re all people. I’m a woman who fits more of the masculine stuff. I can’t even relate much to feminine anything. I’m not lesbian either. I’m just me.
Look....if any person you feel is toxic (male ot female), then just drop them from your life. Now lets move forward and discuss more important issues..
I'll also add that it is very telling that you used an example of violence to "define" the masculinity part, but frames the femininity with a softer example not related to a violent act. Very subtle but I did notice it. Good vid. Peace.
I'd choose to view it as gender expression more than it is sexual expression (gender has influence on sexuality, but sexuality has no influence on gender, sexuality is part of gender identity, i.e. gender reveals itself sexually, sometimes- an opinion). And sometimes you'll find that there's really no strict polarity betwen the two energies; they coexist in spasetime, therefore, they have influence into one another(one has no sense without the other). But still, in the end, all of these concepts are merely constructs that channel the being (soul) institutionally- the soul whose worth is greater than the conception of what societal, political and religious ideas deem to what "being" truly is.
Yeah, but I would like to add or even ask, if both masculinity and femininity are within both genders. Cause you mention before that some female's express traits of toxic masculinity and femininity almost at the same time, but idk if you know or maybe I missed the video, but some men do also display Toxic Femininity as well cause how the major shift in society and cultural changes has influenced and impacted the way Modern men think or feel, I have seen or understand that kind of mentality being pushed among asian culture in particular, when observing how Asian Men are portrayed in media sometimes and how the society functions as Asian men being more submissiveness(viewed in western culture) or rather "Obedience"(viewed in eastern culture). So I think there seems to be an unhealthy mixture of toxic Masculinity AND Femininity within all the genders and causing the major factors and issues we have today. I think it is more diverse now, complex and isn't as one sided as it probably was in the past and more Nuance involved, despite people trying to take the Nuance away out of over simplifications.
You CLEARLY don’t know why he supported feminism in the beginning. And you obviously haven’t read the book. Why did you comment. Keep it moving feminazi
verguchis puchis the third Lol who hurt me lol?! That shaming language doesn’t work on me buddy. I never said anything about discrimination against genders Einstein. Both genders naturally don’t want to take accountability, the difference is society, through laws i.e. family court etc FORCE men to take accountability. Women aren’t forced to take accountability therefore they don’t. Look up an article about a transgender man realizing how worse it is being a man as opposed the the woman she was 20 yrs before. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. Stfu
verguchis puchis the third Nigga I didn’t back track on a damn thing. Did I LITERALLY single women out or did you ASSume you knew what I was talking about?! I’m tired of you soy boys. Foh with that white knight bs
verguchis puchis the third Hit dog hollering. You replied to MY comment with your bs rhetoric thinking you knew what I was talking about miss me with the passive aggressiveness. Punk ass mamas boy
This is all wrong in my opinion. Problem is that this concept is not well defined. It is far too open to interpretation and on ones own personal experience and exposure to the opposite sex. It would be far better to take the "masculinity" and "femininity" out of it. If men can be toxic to other men (bullying, braggin, etc), then isnt it just exibiting toxic behavior in general. And wouldnt women doing the same thing simply be considered toxic? We have overcomplicated this because feminism has decided to make men the vilian and an obstacle to their cause. If you go down this road, men can label toxic femininity as women using their sexual nature to manipulate and dominate men. This would be via the way they dressed, carried themselves, various forms of flirtation as well as exploiting themselves to gain things from men. The reason no one wants to go down this path with the definitions is because it goes against the feminist ideal of women should be able to express themselves in ANY way they choose. Even if it is at the expense of men. We know that they do not believe the inverse is true. This is where the arguement falls apart and i refuse to take the idea of toxic "masculinity" seriously.
I also see a lot of toxic femininity on streaming platforms like twitch. Often you will see women on there who will abuse (young) low status males who may struggle socially (possibly even mentally) by luring them into their streams through wearing very little, very tight clothes and combine it with provocative camera angles (preying on the visual stimulation of males). These "low status" males often struggle socially due to things like their upbringing etc. and suffer from very low self esteem (which in later years often turns into toxic masculinity in the from of violence, due to frustration). Because of their low self esteem they hardly or never approach women outside (in the real world). These Online streams sort of give them a false outlet for their lack of social skills. Through a chat these men can talk to these women/girls. These chats however are often visited by many people and the chance that the abusive female will see your message and respond to it becomes very slim. You can get the attention of the toxic female by giving her money through a donation. By paying a certain amount of money a sound is played and your message will pop up inside the stream, for everyone to see. This will also (no guarantee) grab the attention of the toxic female, who then might respond to your comment. I feel like this is definitely a form of toxic femininity.
It seems like toxic masculinity is basically bad behavior or negative or undesirable traits. Toxic femininity is having too much of a positive trait such as selflessness or being too nurturing. Toxic masculinity does not claim all masculinity is bad, but it does seem to denote that all bad behavior is masculine.
Overplayed. Would love to see you talk about specific issues plauging the black community. For example, addressing Ben Sharpio and having a genuine discussion. This comment is sent with real love.
I only just found this channel and haven't watched the interview they did with Ben Shapiro yet, but did that not cover any of the things you just mentioned?
Lachlan Bell Hey! No I just suggested they cover it, since they’re an all-black panel. I’ve been following them for a while-they mostly discuss interpersonal relationships. But I think they can do better in terms of topics lol
Bruh toxic masculinity does affect black people. Black men cant feel sexualy liberated because of it. They cant feel like they can express themselves without being shamed
Just a clarification, 🎵I'm every woman its all in me 🎵. Ok, can you elaborate further? I mean, many societies have "toxic masculinity" so I don't think its soley a black issue. Tbh the toxic masculinity in the black community can all be dismantled with education. Black guys I hang out with from ivy leagues and black guys back home in my childhood from the projects talk and view things differently. Their not sexually liberated because they are stuck in acting a certain way, they haven't had the travel, education, or diverse experience to think different. Maybe I'm wrong.
And who came up with these terms just because you name it dont mean you mastered it just saying teach and love yourself and drop all the labels thats how you separate and devide people just look at christianity cant no one agree on the same thing because they all teach it different.
"Men treating women like objects and discarding them." A good point. I think this is referred to as "pumping and dumping" by many dating coaches. It should not be a practice that Christian men engage in.
@MALVINDINHO "Nice guys finish last" Really? Hmmmm. I think somebody needs to get that memo to Barack Obama and Bill Gates.
@@christiancoach9418 even if I were to accept your characterization of the Bill Gates and Barack Obama as "nice guys" (which i don't) Those are just 2 exceptions in a SEA of nice guys finishing last
@@MaxPowers2.0 I speak from a Christian perspective because I'm a Christian who is listening to 2 Christian guys talk about dating. My assumption is that most of the people here are also Christians. If you are not one then when I suggest that Christian men should not "pump and dump" that will not mean anything to you.
Additionally, do yourself a favor and read "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills (now every race of men can join). The top business and political men in the world are all "nice guys". By nice I mean mainstream (a public life of "pumping and dumping" will disqualify you from such positions). By nice I mean that you don't see men like Barack and Bill out here publicly living and promoting a "pump and dump" lifestyle You can't become a Barack or Bill without being in the mainstream. They're not "2 exceptions". They're just the high profile ones. The Corporate world and political world are filled with lesser known men who are currently responsible for creating laws for you that you will have to obey (or else). If that's finishing last then sign me up!!!!!!
Christian men? ANY MEN! And mind you, in my experience, it’s been the “religious” men with the most skeletons in their closets.
As Christian men but nobody looking at natural instincts most men will desire multiple women sexually even when you married these desires always there now its up to you to act on it but humans can simply get horny and just want the feeling to be fixed its natural
Time to reevaluate what we've all been taught. Food for thought.Thank you Hafeez. Good content.
I thank my parents so much for not bringing politics nor social issues into my house. They just brought fun to me. And when I was old enough I shaped my opinions by the knowledge I already had.
I find it ironic that men now believe in toxic masculinity when they bring up toxic femininity. Sometimes it's just used to derail. Although I agree both exist
Fills me with sorrow.
Men hate women so much they say they hate themselves to deny it.
Who are these men? I still don't accept the bullshit claim nor does anyone who's sensible that I know
Nah, its just to prove a point that feminazis are a bunch of hypocrites. If there is such a thing as “toxic masculinity”, there HAS to be its equivalent on femininity, right? But no, that can’t be true, otherwise they’d admit they CAN be evil, which to their mind, that CAN’T be possible, whamen are such ANGELS, right?
“Toxic masculinity” is nothing more than a stupid term made to push this one-sided narrative that men are bad. Yes, all feminists-feminazis (because there is no real difference) believe all strong men are bad and rapists-in-the-making and that’s why terms like “toxic masculinity” are just terms to reinforce their narrative.
From my part, I don’t believe being a strong, dominant and aggressive man is toxic and I’ll continue being that until I fucking die. Peace.
Darren Gordon-Hill umm i don’t be understated can you explain again
@@TheDarkOne9942 did you even watch this video. He even pointed out that being masculine (strong dominant etc) is okay. What makes it toxic is excessiveness to a point that you oppress. Same goes to toxic femininity.
Masculinity and femininity are just terms to define how we typically raise boys and girls and which kind of behaviour they will then develop (probably). It's just two categories, it's a model you can use to organizie and talk about toxic behaviour. Just because you often see a certain toxic behaviour in women it doesn't mean it is toxic femininity and vice versa. This conversation should not be about who is worse or who is the true enemy. Both men and women can have toxic behaviour and the categories just help to talk about where they come from (and with that I mean society and how we nurture children, not biology).
Balance is key 🙏🏾 love this point
Right...there are toxic people in both genders.
thank you for making this video without pointing blame to any gender
If toxic masculinity is so bad, then why do girls like being bad boys first and then when things are slowing down, they try to go for the nice guy last? That sounds like toxic femininity to me causing that. Toxic masculinity does exist, but it doesn't affect people as much as you think. There are always going to be toxic men in the world as much as toxic woman. Both sides play into the negative role a little bit.
If toxic femininity does not exist, then why do girls feel pressured to wear tight jeans that makes them uncomfortable to move around? Why women have to wear the tightest and most exposed clothing in order to validate the beauty? Why do women spend hours in the mirror to put on makeup because they don't feel beautiful with the natural beauty? Why do girls fight more than men and hold grudges that last forever? Why do girls gossip and always feel the need to be in every single person's business? Why do they feel that day have to demand that got to pay for everything, because she feels like she's the prize? Why does she feel entitled to have full custody of the kids and the mom and demand child support end alimony from her husband, when she should have her own job in her own money? Why she feels like a woman is never wrong no matter how she feels and negatively react to things? Why does she feel like she can hit a guy but the guy can't hit her or you'll go to jail? Why she feels like she can end a relationship whenever she wants and suffer no consequences and move on with her life with a new partner knowing that she never was invested in the relationship in the first place? Why she feels like she should have men approaching her and giving her the dream of marriage and kids? Why is it okay for women to have a platform to bash and complain about men, but and then men cannot bash or complain about women or they'll be cancelled? Why is it okay for women to be empowered to express their feelings, but consider men weak when they express their feelings and emotions? Why is it wrong for men to look and think of a women sexually, but women can exploit themselves and think of themselves sexually? Why is it okay for women to have equal opportunity and income as men, but they do not share the equal responsibilities financially as men? Why is it okay for a woman to depend on a guy and be broke, but guys cannot be broke and depend on a woman financially? Why are media outlets and sales products always geared more towards women then men? Why only a happy wife equals a happy life? Why are there more women as teachers which help women and little girls graduate more than men and men are dropping out at a higher rate causing men to not have higher-income jobs? Why is it taught that it's okay for men to cater to women, but it's wrong for women to cater to men? Why is it important to have a feminist group, but it is wrong to have a men's right group?
both men and women should have groups that empowers them without making the other sacrifice something. We both need masculine and feminine energy and not misuse them to dominate the other oh, that's when it becomes toxic. But honestly I think some women just need to stop complaining so much about something that they don't know much about or pay attention to , they keep getting in their feelings and being offended over everything and never try to reflect on themselves. Even in the Bible it says do not let your heart to see you for a good reason. And this old man is being toxic and being abusive, then simply leave him. If he's making it difficult for you to leave that you stopping you from doing so, then get the authorities involved, it's not difficult in this day and age.
You're being too logical and sensible. It's always mens fault for everything. A woman can do no wrong and you're a sexist if you say otherwise. Only fathers and other women can police women.
@@Okutox ???? What are you talkin about?
@@kerbysaintil3774 you're preaching to the choir is what I'm saying. No one wants to hear kt because we're so focused on feeling over fact.
@@Okutox but it's factual that toxic masculinity and toxic femininity happened. And it's affecting people and there's proof of it in our everyday lives that we witness. Is some of it blown out of proportion? Yes. But it happens a lot, and I'm just pointing out the double standard.
@@kerbysaintil3774 it is factual but that's the problem. People care more about feeling than facts nowadays.
OMG THIS GUY’S A GENIUS! Thanks for this vid man, so many fearful hateful uninformed women
I love listening to you speak. You talk with rounded wisdom and understanding. You thought about this very well, I can see your reasoning. I understand where you’re coming from! You speak truth and you talk sense!! God bless you brother ! Keep it up🔥🙌🏾 As a young Christian woman, I found this was very insightful 🙏🏾
When it comes to toxic masculinity and femininity, I see it as nothing more than a gender war between men and women for human superiority. One side thinks that toxic masculinity is an evil and the other thinks that toxic femininity is an evil. It's based around who wants to be right in society more, who wants to be privileged and entitled more, and who wants to have seniority more. This is what's destroying the sanctity of men and women socializing with one another. One wants to use anger and hate on another and boast to the world that they're superior above the masses. I just wanna steer clear away from the toxicity of our society. What I am seeing from toxic masculinity and femininity is both men and women getting set to spill each other's blood from their bodies. This world has been stripped to its core enough to have the force of hate control their lives.
I agree. Same goes for all the divisive race csrd crsp that has obesessed America.
I like the way he breaks it down. I didn’t understand either before I watched this video and now it makes a lot of since. Knowing that my moms took on that role of toxic masculinity because of having to provide for my sister and I due to my pops. So, that makes us not inform her about anything because of the amount of pressure she’s given us as kids.
This is my favorite video on this channel.
this sounds more like sinful behavior instead of "toxic masculinity" "toxic femininity" bc women can belittle men just as much as men do so to women,women can bully men not in the same way as men may do but still bullying nonetheless .These actions don't come from just men they come from both men and women bc anyone can be toxic there is no gender specific toxicity.
Exactly it’s just internal flaws. The left tries to marginalize gender into a box
Great discussion!
Im curious how we can reduce this behavior.
I developed few traits related to toxic masculinity, surely by series of over analyzed events I assumed were negative at most.
I considered control as a solution.
I have been running thoughts and somewhat fought to shift the course of my reasoning.
I am still emotional, romantic and inspired by creative outlooks.
I find a balance between freedom and love by setting clear goals, accepting twists and hardness every now and then as growth. Meanwhile, I strongly aspire close, healthy relationships and treating them well on a daily basis with appreciation.
omg!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don't lnow you but sure i love u😭😭😭😭 i love people who accept their wrongs and change😭❤
If you read your definition of toxic femininity, it is literally the eastern definition of nirvana. Or the complete loss of self.
I think this would work better if men spoke to other men about toxic masculinity and women should address toxic femininity , Because toxic masculines and toxic feminines enjoy talking about the inconsistencies of the opposite sex to avoid addressing them selves.
Great job unpacking this subject!
Thanks for this, I feel like I'm learned up on toxic masculinity but there's bugger all on toxic femininity.
Great video although I disagree. people have to get out of the mindset of assigning gender to behavior and stop placing yourself or others into checkable boxes. We all have freedom of expression. There is no one way a man should talk or behave and there is not a specific way a lady should behave or speak or interact with the world. We are all allowed to be free thinkers and do as we please as long as it is within the law to do so.
Very good content. I went to a relationship workshop and we talked about exactly that. It has changed my life. Feminism is destroying our society right now, full toxic but gets a lot of support from people powerful people who only care about their own agenda.
@Ruby Hypatia I've never felt I had any privilege beyond the physical. I've always had to work for whatever I have achieved in my life and when I have any surplus I give back to my community. I've never been given special treatment or special preferences or special law in my favor. The idea of Male privilege is a myth. Everyone is equal under the law at worst men have the short end of the stick, even then what's talked about in the media is how much women are victims.
@Ruby Hypatia You sound like a confused idiot
So Toxic Masculinity came out of a result of Me too Movement and to address why Sexual Assault is so prevalent. I personally feel like "toxic femininity " is an all lives matter as a response. I feel like this video was more on gendered roles.
@Ray Marquez i am incredibly sorry what happened to you, but I dont think that dubs "toxic femininity " but rather an emotionally abusive relative. For ex, toxic masculinity is when what is stereotyped as a male trait that ends up harming the women. Ie " i sexually assaulted her because she wore tempting clothes and as a man i cant control myself "
@@spicy_lola Exactly I Laugh At This Toxic Mas. Toxic Fem. When In Fact It's The Individual who is Toxic...ITS LIKE WHEN CORRUPT COPS JUSTIFY KILLING AN UNARMED BLACK PERSON BY SAYING "WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME" OR "BLACK KILLING BLACKS IN CHICAGO"...LIKE SO A WHOLE RACE SHOULD BE BLAME FOR CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS...SMH
@@spicy_lola surely that can just be summed up as an abusive man then?
@@spicy_lola why is it seen as an isolated incident when women do something like terrible but when men do, it's seen as a direct correlation to our masculinity? This idea in itself is what I see as toxic femininity.
The idea behind toxic masculinity is toxic behaviors taught to men to fit into the man gender role. Women also learn toxic behaviors to fit into the woman gender role. I see it more as when someone says “men get harassed too” when talking about women getting harassed. It’s a real thing that should be discussed more but it seems 9/10 times it is brought up it is used as a whataboutism to derail a conversation instead of bringing light to the situation.
What about toxic people,people are so worried about the wrong things now days peace and love family time to unite on all fronts males and females no more time to waste i challenge everyone who reads this we are 1✊
This video was really helpful, thanks for the info
This was very eye-opening! Thank you. How does a woman (i.e. wife or daughter) respond to toxic masculinity in a healthy way?
negative as a result of too much positive = toxic
mothers enabling bad behavior by "over nurturing"
fathers enabling bad behaviors by over protecting
negative result of negative behaviors = toxic
female who lies and tricks him into raising a child that isnt his
male who beats and overtly abuses his significant other
negative as a result of toxicity turned inward
female self harm and self abuse
male risky behavior and aggression
Both men and women attempt suicide, but men tend to die from it at higher rates due to choosing more fatal methods.
I appreciate that you made a video on this topic, but i feel like this video describes toxic feminine traits as stemming from being "too nurturing and selfless" rather than describing the actual scope and breadth of how toxic femininity can be expressed.
Great video brother.
Hafeez just said it all
To each their own but ,
I felt your example of toxic femininity was based off of your experience maybe ,
But I felt like you provided excuses for women who just use their vaginal privilege to get away with everything . Courts, relationships, violent encounters , etc etc
I think many people would use their "vaginal privalege" to get away from a violent encounter
gender is taught
Elias Taborda says who?
Goof
I can’t wait until masculine, feminine, black, white no longer exist. We’re all people. I’m a woman who fits more of the masculine stuff. I can’t even relate much to feminine anything. I’m not lesbian either. I’m just me.
I feel you!
It will never happen
Look....if any person you feel is toxic (male ot female), then just drop them from your life. Now lets move forward and discuss more important issues..
I'll also add that it is very telling that you used an example of violence to "define" the masculinity part, but frames the femininity with a softer example not related to a violent act. Very subtle but I did notice it. Good vid. Peace.
Can’t beat them, join em👍🏾
These incels in the comments 🤮
Great message❤
"If there were no bad women there'd be no bad men." -My landlady.
I'd choose to view it as gender expression more than it is sexual expression (gender has influence on sexuality, but sexuality has no influence on gender, sexuality is part of gender identity, i.e. gender reveals itself sexually, sometimes- an opinion). And sometimes you'll find that there's really no strict polarity betwen the two energies; they coexist in spasetime, therefore, they have influence into one another(one has no sense without the other). But still, in the end, all of these concepts are merely constructs that channel the being (soul) institutionally- the soul whose worth is greater than the conception of what societal, political and religious ideas deem to what "being" truly is.
Yeah, but I would like to add or even ask, if both masculinity and femininity are within both genders. Cause you mention before that some female's express traits of toxic masculinity and femininity almost at the same time, but idk if you know or maybe I missed the video, but some men do also display Toxic Femininity as well cause how the major shift in society and cultural changes has influenced and impacted the way Modern men think or feel, I have seen or understand that kind of mentality being pushed among asian culture in particular, when observing how Asian Men are portrayed in media sometimes and how the society functions as Asian men being more submissiveness(viewed in western culture) or rather "Obedience"(viewed in eastern culture). So I think there seems to be an unhealthy mixture of toxic Masculinity AND Femininity within all the genders and causing the major factors and issues we have today. I think it is more diverse now, complex and isn't as one sided as it probably was in the past and more Nuance involved, despite people trying to take the Nuance away out of over simplifications.
Seriously man this was said in such a great way damn I’m still sure some females may have hurt feelings........
Toxic masculinity is the 15 year olds on Xbox saying they scored my mother
Nahhh that’s not toxic masculinity
Read the boy crisis by John Gray and explain how toxic masculinity exists. These phrases were created to refrain from accountability
You CLEARLY don’t know why he supported feminism in the beginning. And you obviously haven’t read the book. Why did you comment. Keep it moving feminazi
verguchis puchis the third My username explains nothing! You’re an idiot if you think women take accountability for their bs. Foh
verguchis puchis the third Lol who hurt me lol?! That shaming language doesn’t work on me buddy. I never said anything about discrimination against genders Einstein. Both genders naturally don’t want to take accountability, the difference is society, through laws i.e. family court etc FORCE men to take accountability. Women aren’t forced to take accountability therefore they don’t. Look up an article about a transgender man realizing how worse it is being a man as opposed the the woman she was 20 yrs before. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. Stfu
verguchis puchis the third Nigga I didn’t back track on a damn thing. Did I LITERALLY single women out or did you ASSume you knew what I was talking about?! I’m tired of you soy boys. Foh with that white knight bs
verguchis puchis the third Hit dog hollering. You replied to MY comment with your bs rhetoric thinking you knew what I was talking about miss me with the passive aggressiveness. Punk ass mamas boy
Interesting that you mentioned Taoism, I was expecting a more ... extreme and controversial take. But this take is very insightful!
Woah though I was gonna get educated this turned into defining gender roles. Like this is all it has come to gender roles
The ideas of toxic masculinity and toxic femininity come from aspects of enforced gender roles
Deep. Great subject matter. Very informational.
Solid breakdown.
There's a reason why women are chasing the bag. These men are not providers
Who decides how a male, female or any human how to act? Why does your perspective and opinion trump another?
hm,women take kindness for weakness,where is the middle of the road.
walter bass I do not take kindness for weakness. If anything it can be very easy for me to take kindness for love 😅
Inspired by your videos for my channel I love it ❤️
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Thanks for the mammaries
@@darrengordon-hill wait what?
@@WookJnr
I'd forgotten she existed long ago, today, you reminded me.
Memories of tits (mammary glands produce breastmilk).
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@@darrengordon-hill yes i know
And I was starting to think common sense was not that common. You just changed my mind. Yet I could think of a million more.
This is all wrong in my opinion. Problem is that this concept is not well defined. It is far too open to interpretation and on ones own personal experience and exposure to the opposite sex. It would be far better to take the "masculinity" and "femininity" out of it.
If men can be toxic to other men (bullying, braggin, etc), then isnt it just exibiting toxic behavior in general. And wouldnt women doing the same thing simply be considered toxic? We have overcomplicated this because feminism has decided to make men the vilian and an obstacle to their cause.
If you go down this road, men can label toxic femininity as women using their sexual nature to manipulate and dominate men. This would be via the way they dressed, carried themselves, various forms of flirtation as well as exploiting themselves to gain things from men. The reason no one wants to go down this path with the definitions is because it goes against the feminist ideal of women should be able to express themselves in ANY way they choose. Even if it is at the expense of men. We know that they do not believe the inverse is true. This is where the arguement falls apart and i refuse to take the idea of toxic "masculinity" seriously.
what about mean women?
mean women have tons of toxic masculinity
earth is actually feminine
Maddie McCrackin where this info come from 😂
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I also see a lot of toxic femininity on streaming platforms like twitch. Often you will see women on there who will abuse (young) low status males who may struggle socially (possibly even mentally) by luring them into their streams through wearing very little, very tight clothes and combine it with provocative camera angles (preying on the visual stimulation of males). These "low status" males often struggle socially due to things like their upbringing etc. and suffer from very low self esteem (which in later years often turns into toxic masculinity in the from of violence, due to frustration). Because of their low self esteem they hardly or never approach women outside (in the real world). These Online streams sort of give them a false outlet for their lack of social skills. Through a chat these men can talk to these women/girls. These chats however are often visited by many people and the chance that the abusive female will see your message and respond to it becomes very slim. You can get the attention of the toxic female by giving her money through a donation. By paying a certain amount of money a sound is played and your message will pop up inside the stream, for everyone to see. This will also (no guarantee) grab the attention of the toxic female, who then might respond to your comment.
I feel like this is definitely a form of toxic femininity.
Well said
Now compare this to the zodiac signs
Heloor brother. Good luck. good publications
It seems like toxic masculinity is basically bad behavior or negative or undesirable traits. Toxic femininity is having too much of a positive trait such as selflessness or being too nurturing. Toxic masculinity does not claim all masculinity is bad, but it does seem to denote that all bad behavior is masculine.
good stuff
Overplayed. Would love to see you talk about specific issues plauging the black community. For example, addressing Ben Sharpio and having a genuine discussion. This comment is sent with real love.
I only just found this channel and haven't watched the interview they did with Ben Shapiro yet, but did that not cover any of the things you just mentioned?
Lachlan Bell Hey! No I just suggested they cover it, since they’re an all-black panel. I’ve been following them for a while-they mostly discuss interpersonal relationships. But I think they can do better in terms of topics lol
Allen Reynolds I’m in between. I think victim hood is a part but I think there are real things that can be broken down.
Bruh toxic masculinity does affect black people. Black men cant feel sexualy liberated because of it. They cant feel like they can express themselves without being shamed
Just a clarification, 🎵I'm every woman its all in me 🎵. Ok, can you elaborate further? I mean, many societies have "toxic masculinity" so I don't think its soley a black issue. Tbh the toxic masculinity in the black community can all be dismantled with education. Black guys I hang out with from ivy leagues and black guys back home in my childhood from the projects talk and view things differently. Their not sexually liberated because they are stuck in acting a certain way, they haven't had the travel, education, or diverse experience to think different. Maybe I'm wrong.
And who came up with these terms just because you name it dont mean you mastered it just saying teach and love yourself and drop all the labels thats how you separate and devide people just look at christianity cant no one agree on the same thing because they all teach it different.
@verguchis puchis the third Yeah, some pagans to be like that
Great video but fire and air is masculinity and earth and water is feminine
Very smart
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Yasss!!!!
mgtow.
Well said