I say this as someone who isn't a GM fanboy. This car is amazing in every way, including the styling. I wouldn't feel short changed owning one of these versus any other super car out there. I do like the Ferrari styling the most out of any of the mid-engine cars, but they're notoriously unreliable. With this you get the performance, you get the cheaper price and you get the GM reliability and parts support. I say this understanding that an engine replacement would be catastrophically expensive, but then again it wouldn't be such a special car otherwise. Similar equation with the GT350 from Ford. That VooDoo engine and the sound it makes, makes it worth every penny they charged for that car and then some.
I was a project engineer at GM when they started developing the LT6 (wasn't on the project itself, was working on a truck engine). It was great seeing the block and heads working through the prototype machine shop. And yes, in the competitive analysis lab, there was a Ferrari 458 engine torn down. But this is nothing to get excited about. Every engine manufacturer buys their competitors engines to study. And yet I doubt that Ferrari has felt the need to buy one of GM's pushrod truck engines. After all, they're not in that market.
Perhaps Lamborghini could use that GM pushrod truck engine to make a faster, more furious…tractor? Does Lamborghini even make tractors anymore? Probably not after the Miura…SVJ!
I got the word yesterday that my dealer just received a Z06 allocation and my C8 Z06 order will be rolling through the Bowling Green factory in late December! I was starting to get pretty depressed having sold my C7 Z06 eight months ago and didn't think the new Z06 would become a reality for years. Amazing turn of events, super stoked. Thank you for this video. Obviously I've tried to absorb everything on the C8 Z and its technology. I have learned more about this incredible engine through this video than anything else I have watched. Great content, production and presentation. I am now a subscriber and look forward to following your channel! Congrats!
Ferrari is using GM electric steering and magnetic suspension. The z06 is making more power than any other naturally aspirated v8. So even if they stole it, they apparently did it better than anyone else anyways. Can't wait to buy mine.
@@Drake-296 you are talking about a dual overhead cam, direct injected engine with a flat plane crank. It's got 4 camshaft actuators and drinks gas like a super duty. The cost to rebuild something like that, let alone maintain it is astronomical in comparison. The cost of the replacement of the 4 camshaft actuators, plus the timing chain and the bearings for that service is roughly $20k You can buy a new engine for that corvette and have a few grand to spare 😀 And it's better on fuel. By alot.
One thing's for sure... the ZR1 will need forced induction, and a different engine, to top those numbers. Like the 7.0L that debuted in 2003... this engine simply won't tolerate much in the way of power adders. The fatigue life of titanium connecting rods, simply won't stand it for 100,000 miles. If they drop the rods, that means they'll have to revert to a crossplane crank, because the flat plane crack can't swing that much mass and survive. That also means less RPM, and more displacement, just to hit the LT's baseline. So it will definitely need forced induction for anything more. I'm more curious about the Z06. Traditionally, Z06 was basically just a road-legal lightening package... where they took the light body variant, ditched any unnecessary fluff, and gave it the best performing powerplant with a hotter cam. I doubt there's any headroom for a cam upgrade to the LT... and short of ditching the infotainment center and floormats... I don't think there's much they can do to make it lighter, and still pass safety requirements. So is this really a Z06 at all... or another fake play on an old nameplate?
The C8 Z06 design brief dates all the way back to 2015 as the original concept. They did use the 458 and 911 GT2/3 as benchmarks. Also, the exhaust tech alone and the Z07 package spec moreover is pretty wild.
The C8 actually rides on the same platform as three of its predecessors (C5, C6, and C7), just the engine layout changed. It's not an all-new design, nor is the Z06's 5.5L engine a clean-sheet like the video says. It's a short-stroked LT1 which in turn is an evolution of the LS3, which is an evolution of the LS2 and of the LS1
@@thatboringblenderguy what? It’s a complete ground up build. It does NOT share the same architecture with any of the previous cars at all. Also, the LT6 does not share any parts with any previous GM engine. No idea where you got that. Maybe you’re thinking of the LT2
@@APFSDS-DU The LT6 is a slightly bored up, heavily stroked down LT2 to allow for a flat plane crank. You can convert a pushrod into a cammer (though not the other way around). Lotus helped GM with that back in the 80s. Even Ford did that. Only problem is it costs a lot of development $$$
@@APFSDS-DU The Corvette C8 is called Y2XX while C7 and earlier, dating back to C4 were called Y1XX (C5 got a heavily revised chassis and it continued on with C6 and C7). Corvette as a sub-brand (it really is its own brand since it has an assembly plant exclusive to Corvette, and it's Corvette's only assembly plant) made the C8 more complex than a traditional, semi-muscle quasi-grand tourer. Mid-engine and dual-clutch. Many front-engine cars got converted to rear-engine, like the Renault V6 Clio, but that's for another topic... (C8 is mid, but that's not far off). To be fair, C4 to C7 models are all front-MID
Uh nope. The first flat plane crank engine was Cadillacs design, which happens to be a GM brand. GM has so many patents on engine design its hard to remember where all of this started from in the first place.
nonsense...is like saying that using a turbo today means copying from who invented the turbo before 1900. Do you think there is much in common between early Cadillac flat planes and a 458 engine? There is definitely way more which GM learnt from opening up a 458 engine bought in Poland than the resemblance between a modern flat plane engine and GM's early designs. I dont think you want to start talking about patents from Otto, Benz and Daimer right? If today a z06 is using ESC do you say it copied Mercedes Benz from the 80s?
@@j7b890 GMs entire lineup is based on BENCHMARKING since restructuring. All Camaros and Cadillacs are based on BMWs design for its 3 series, but GM takes it further than anyone could have imagined. The actual chassis of a C8 is based on a 458, BUT ITS TEN TIMES BETTER. GM knows the consumer game very well.
@@j7b890 Ferrari stole GM’s magnetic shocks from them after licensing it from them for years. And this engine has a lot of innovations the 458 didn’t, including the lack of hugely expensive maintenance to keep it up and running.
@@markw9512 Ferrari is paying for that technology , as well as paying for multimatic ones on higher models. Guess your idea of stealing is a confused one. 458 engines are quite reliable. plenty of people race them. By the way, do you also say that all of Corvettes steal brakes from Brembo (which Ferrari uses since the 70's) ? Just to understand your thinking..
@@j7b890 Ferrari stole the magnetic shocks from GM, that’s a fact. Ferrari license to technology from GM for multiple years before finally, magically, inventing their own variation on the design. So you want to talk about benchmarking? They paid a lot of money for that benchmark. And How much does it cost to maintain a Ferrari 458? It needs to be have expensive maintenance performed ($thousands), the Z06 motor will not need to be opened up before 100,000 miles.
I think using the term “budget” to refer to a vehicle which runs well up over $100k (over $150K with Z07) is kind of silly, that’s well into Mercedes S-Class territory. Cheap it isn’t!
MSRP dealers are many. Just needed to get in line 2-3years ago to get it soon. My deposit was put in early 2020. No extra fees and allocation coming any day…
I’m still waiting on a C8 stingray. I can’t wait it’s now my ultimate favorite car of all time everytime I see one I just get starstruck. It looks like an exotic and performs like one as well. The Z06 is my next dream car but a C8 in general is my dream car. I think I will literally shed a tear when mine finally shows up.
@@user-zx1ir7jt4c that just means those who want one can get one without having to pay over. They should be able to negotiate like any other car. I saw a corvette world ad where they were cutting prices on all their C8s. People don’t realize the C8 opportunity that’s available now. The Z06s are showing up people aren’t going to pay over anymore
@@nezabytes awesome they did but the rig is not impressive at all it has too much understeer and the c8 stingray is slower than a 2010 gtr with less power more weight and worse tires
Look up SBC Crossplane on YT. Somebody built one back in the '50's or '60's. The man that owns it now bought off of eBay 20 some years ago bur never put it together. He finally did and made a video of it on a Dyno. It's pretty dang wild. For what it is and the weight of the parts available at the time, it puts down respectable power.
That engine is real nice :) My favourite engine is the Cosworth RA 6.5ltr V12 Engine. 1,000bhp/NA and spins to 11,100 rpm. It also meets the EU's very strict latest emissions standards. Sounds like an F1 car too!
@@RW-zh7kl That got slain by 4th gen camaro By little 350 LT1 6 speed All the way up to 200 mph with stock exaust manifolds lol Viper like Cobra are dead Snakes
Yes please do a "Pushrod VS DOHC" aka "OHV VS OHC" video. But it is still amazing that Mary Barra(GM CEO) and the "suits" still greenlighted and push the C8 and Gemini projects even when going through bankruptcy and government directed total reorganization. While in the '90s the Corvette engineers had to design and develop the C5 in secret and on their own time.
GM was well out of bankruptcy by 2014 and I am excited for what they think of next. One key lesson GM learned is that nobody wants the average car designed for an average person. Look for more interesting and unique cars from GM in the future for sure!
This engine is impressive but for that money, it should be. While we always say it’s half the price of an exotic car, a lot of that is because they can get that money. $120k is a boatload of money for a Corvette, especially when few people can tell, or know, the difference between a $60k Corvette and this one. That’s always been an issue with the true badass Corvettes. Doesn’t matter with a Ferrari or Lamborghini. The Shelby Gt350 engine is more impressive, one for being first and two for putting a badass 1 off engine in a low production $55k car. I like that they did a flat plane crank tho. Hi revs just sound cool. This one doesn’t sound anything like the Shelby, hell, it doesn’t sound much like an Italian car either. Im glad it has its own sound.
90 degree cranks do not fire at quicker intervals. There's no torque difference because of crank degree. The difference is which bank fires every 90 degrees. In a 90 degree crank, the firing order resembles this side-to-side LRLLRLRR -- each interval happening at 90 degrees. In a 180 degree cranks, the firing order side-to-side is like this: LRLRLRLR -- each interval still firing every 90 degrees because each 90 degrees your flat plane rotates, it puts two pistons at TDC in the other cylinder bank (because that bank is at 90 degrees from the other). The main difference in torque lies with the fact that, without the inherent imbalance of the flat plane crank, most 90 degree cranks have a longer stroke. Longer stroke means the cranking force produced by the cylinder pressure is further away from the crank's center, thus using that leverage to increase torque at the crank.
Ill start by saying I am NOT a GM fanatic, but I do appreciate the machine... this was a great video. Thank you for your production. Keep up the awesome work!
I have never been a fan of GM or Corvettes but I think they finally got something special going on. Just in time, I am 52 now and would have to buy the matching leather jacket and gold jewelery that Corvette owners alway seem to have. I will have to buy one while I can still get in and out of the car!
@@sjb3460 I learned what a crankshaft is from the movie Tenet. It's a device that can make the world go backward through time. I'm assuming camshafts have something to do with time travel.
The most impressive production engine ever to come out of America? Really? The Ford GT EcoBoost 6 and the Hellcat Redeye Hemi are both saying hold my beer… 😂
Thanks for the speedy education. Very insightful. Now, if we can only convince GM to make a manual to row your own gears. Otherwise, C7 and below will have my heart. C8 will get my blessings. The manual transmission is my soul.
Manual transmissions are dead in super cars. The only reason they exist is for the memes. Machines can do it better, faster, and more precise than a human can. They also have multiple engagement gears that have almost zero time between shifts. As someone who enjoys a manual transmission car and DDs a GD WRX. These cars are just on an entirely different level. F1 don't really usual manual transmission cars anymore either not really. Most race cars use inline shifters which isn't really all that manual. Sure you're controlling the time when gears engage, but they are doing almost zero clutch work.
@@seemlesslies The median age of Corvette buyers is 61 YEARS. As an older buyer, myself, my hips and knees are in no shape. I drove nothing but manual cars for over 40 years. But now my 6-speed Mazda 6 rarely leaves the driveway, and it's clutch is feather light compared to those in performance cars. Besides, neither my daughter nor her friends can even drive a manual -- half of them don't drive, period!
I don't do American cars, but this to me is the ultimate American sports car. The attention to detail is astounding for an American auto maker. If GM had this standard years ago, it would still be no. 1
Push rod engines can rev high proof nascar there small block based V8s can rev to 10,000 rpm , it comes down to what kind of camshaft lifters and rocker arms like an flattop camshaft can rev to 7,000 rpm but struggles on the other hand hydraulic roller camshafts can rev higher with ease it also comes down to other stuff like the weight of the valve train ,rotating assembly and flywheel. There’s some dohc engines that can’t rev higher then 6,400 rpm and can’t go higher then 6,900 and 7,000 and they have dohc 👀
They can rev high but you lose power down low. What’s the highest revving production pushrod? The DOHC with cam phasers on each and variable lift on the cams can make an engine that makes power at a much wider rev range. I’d totally rock an LS7 or LS3 so I’m no hater.
@@kc510 You may argue production but Hennessy F5 6.6L TT is said to rev to around 8500 in vmax mode. As far as n/a can't really think of a any production model.
@@austinhowze6280 OHC makes the engine taller. That's why 5.5L is the biggest DOHC anyone's seen in a sports car, but there's a 10.4L big block with more HP than the DOHC that I believe could fit in the Corvette.
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The stingray is priced right but there's something about it I don't quite like. The wheels don't look quite as aggressive and some of the proportions don't look right to me. They nailed it with the zo6 but they raised up the price where I can't get one. If you guys can afford this I'd say get it as the next gen will almost assuredly be electric
NO flat plane has much better balance . The problem with cross plane is it has less primary and secondary balance . Source = Driving 4 answers Crossplane vs flat plane crankshafts (engine engineering site on you tube . Or ask any mechanical engineer .
That's my biggest issue as well. I have a 997 911 turbo and have been itching to get into a Z06 but every time I see it in person (the base) it just looks cheap and bolted on. The wing looks terrible too so I would consider a delete. Maybe I have to wait and see the ZO6 in person.
Try 38 and have the means to buy one, got the wife’s approval after a year of nagging and when I saw in person just was so let down. no test drives so I can’t comment on that but looks ugly it doesn’t flow well .
And to the question of this or a Ferarri…… yeah, a Ferarri is gorgeous, fast, sounds amazing and gets more attention. But when you’ve driven that Ferarri for a few thousand miles and now it needs 10 grand worth of service work, no thanks. That’s where most people don’t understand. Just because you can afford to buy the car initially doesn’t mean you can afford to own it. 2 different worlds
@@0xymfzzty0 While i enjoy some builds that rival the space shuttle in complexity, I would rather just go old school big block with a classic C3. Old school builds just seem to have more spirit and heart for me....
@@JungSooLeee Yeah that’s the main reason I stayed with my rebuilt (now 372) 350sbc, but pushing a measly ~400 hp is rookie territory 😂. I don’t really like the big blocks and force induction on an factory engines is illegal in my country, I’ll probably give in to my friends and stroke it
not steal but reverse engineering and that's normal It's shame that Z06 can't hit magic 9000 rpm just like Ferrari 458 BUT I doubt normal people can know the sound differences between 8500 rpm and 9000 rpm, besides Z06 C8 is 1000cc larger and more powerful than 458 so it's still a win
Title is click bate - When I saw it, I thought, I can't wait to hear this argument (which was never made). That being said it was a good video. There were a couple of inaccuracies: - In the video it was said that the cam in pushrod engines reduced room for intake ports - Technically false, but effectively true - it was the passages for the pushrods going through the heads that reduced the size that intake ports could be made (If you ever watch videos about port flow for OHV engines they will frequently talk about the location of the pushrod in relation to the port) - In the video it was suggested that a OHC engine couldn't easily fit in previous corvettes (exception LT5) - The LT5 was absolutely massive and the corvette was not redesigned to fit it (it was redesigned to some extent, but nothing special was done to make room for the engine itself). With the 5th generation corvette, GM fit a northstar (quad-cam V8) under the hood and called it a cadillac XLR and they even had enough room under the hood to make a supercharged model. There are also tons of of other cars with 90 degree Vs and quad-cams with the engine in the front (Mostly from Audi, Toyota, and Ford) - The reason GM didn't do this sooner was because it made for a less competitive race car. The new car is faster in solo races for sure (and may be faster overall, I haven't really kept up with it). The corvette had 2 big advantages in their previous generations, fuel efficiency and braking power - Running the race engines at low (relative) RPM resulted in better fuel economy during a race, meaning less stops for fuel - Having the engine in the front meant better braking performance, this allowed for easier passing at the track. This is why GM didn't move the engine to the back and switch to a high revving engine sooner.
Great Content💯Volumetric efficiency is life or death in the racing world and the most important metric we have when pushing performance boundary’s. It’s rarely used in the automotive enthusiast world. Thank you for understanding before informing! It’s a breath of fresh air
Apostrophe abuse. Is 'boundaries' so hard to type? (My Android suggested it, by the time I had typed 'bou... ') Apostrophes are for contractions or possessive form. (I know your teachers never stressed or enforced this.)
@@hb-ol9oc Anybody who cares about clarity in written communication. I admit that there are fewer & fewer of us, as time goes on. Welcome to Babel 2.0, dude. Punctuation matters.
The Z06 is unreal bro ! Based on the leaks of what the C8 platform would look like, the Z06 exceeded the rumored number of “at least 625 horsepower flat plane crank v8.” It ended up being 670hp. The ZR1 was rumored to have 850 horsepower twin turbo 5.5 liter v8. Which just the thought of is mind boggling because the Z06 is such a beast already.
I am scared for the engine supports. Videos I have seen of the engine flexing with gear shifting gives me pause, then the more powerful Z06, more engine flexing. By the time we get to a twin turbo 5.5 liter possibly 800+ HP the lightweight frame the supports are attached will be screaming for relief. Thats what full warranties are for, I guess.
I have a weird feeling that it destroys the competition, because there simply is no modern competition. The age of such engines was late 2000s to early 2010s, nowadays, there's just no way these would even get homologated (and sold) in anywhere else than northern us, which is a really small market all things considered and thus there are no profits to be made if any competition starts arising.
So I have a 2024 z06. Let me say that car is an absolute monster. I’ve never spun it up to 8600 rpm because I’ve never been able to if I get it on it only gets up to about 7000 rpm at that speed the car is on the verge of unmanageability, because I have the traction control on. It is not for the faint of heart. I am almost 60 years old and it’s more car than I’ve ever driven in my life. I don’t think there’s any car in town that would ever think of touching it is it better than a stingray? Well, I see people on Facebook marketplace pretty regularly selling their stingray so they could buy a 006 so that tells you something
It is important to understand that this is not the engine for tuning. It is essentially maxed out straight from the factory. If you change the intake it is likely that you will actually decrease that volumetric efficiency instead of increasing it.
GM has led the automobile world in R&D spending for decades. For example, GM manufactured Cadillacs with cylinder deactivation 44 years ago. GM invented EVs almost 30 years ago. GM doesn't need Ferrari technology. They invest far more in R&D than Ferrari's total revenue. Rather, GM management needs the willingness to build cars with the cutting edge tech GM engineers develop. One of the criteria this video ignored was reliability. Developing massive horsepower is easy. Developing a high performance engine that can be pushed hard and still operate dependably for years is another matter. GM customers would never tolerate the frequency of repairs Ferraris require.
Was realy disapointed with how real gutless the flat plain crank in those were Tryed to Race one that was showing off best sounding engine ive ever heard But has the power of Ford Pinto Ford Left them for Dead for Electric Car You should find a mustang 2 with 4 speed and put a cleveland in it They were a Blast
It’s always funny to see test mules on here. I’ve seen most of the ones portrayed here in person. The black Holden Test Mule was at Speedway gas station in Milford one morning at 4:45am. I was looking it over not knowing what it was
That intake @ 10:42 design looks astoundingly like a late 80's Lingenfelter superram tpi unit but modernized. So much so that ifyou removed the butterflies in the plenum it would be (just) about visually exact. The 80's plenum would have a 4th port.
Agreed and many other intakes used similar designs I think they old hilborn could be included and the butterflys date back to the late 80s and early 90s too. In fact one of them was the 1989 Ford SHO had a 220 horse 3 liter six with 12 "tuned" intake runners. Six longer narrow set of primaries for low end torque and at about 4k rpm the butterflies opened up a second set of short fat tubes for high rpm volume. You could literally bury the 8k tach but the cable shifter was atrocious. Just saying there new tech has been around for awhile but pump it up for the buyers the drivers know what's what. Meh
He probably talking about the Flat plane crank because that’s what Ferrari uses in the OEM engines this isn’t anything new a woman did swapped a set of flat plane cranks and twin turbocharged her LT1 when she first bought her new Corvette and converted it to a drag car breaking records when that car first came out, she was the first to create that mod on the new corvette but not the first to bring a heavy modified LT1, there’s a video on 1320 where a guy built a twin turbocharged LT1 doing 7’s as a daily with no plane crank
First off after many years of playing with different types of motor sports I can say I love cars trucks and bikes as a whole but I will say it's nice to see automotive engines finally catching up to 1980's motorcycle engine technology 😜
This is a modern F-355 in almost every way with regard to the design language... The 5 valve flat plane v8 of the F-355 is clearly part of the inspiration.
@@Thumper68 hat's off to your old man. did a little bit of math. if the car ran 50 miles every saturday for 30 years, that would make for 75,000 miles. Impressive but still less than what is expected of the average honda civic over the same period.
@@Thumper68 my point is really that a pushrod SBC does not run at 8 grand like a say Porsche 911, and also last. i am an old aircooled VW guy, so pushrod engines are very dear to my heart, but they don't last if rev'd to 8 grand either.
I see a lot of Ford old technology in this guys discretion. Overhead cam, intake manifold vavle, cam phasers. I am impressed with the titanium rods. 670hp natural aspiration is impressive for sure.
weird because buick was the first ever brand to use a ohc engine in a automobile.... And Cadillac was the first ever company to use a v8 in a automobile... Nothing close to ford is on this car. The lt5 in the 90s zr1 was also dohc and co developed by lotus and mercury again nothing like fords mod motors.
There's not any "old Ford technology" in the LT6...thank God! The Modular/Coyote/Voodoo engine designs are terrible from a performance standpoint, they have to use superchargers to get any HP. The basic design flaw is they kept the bore spacing of the OHV small block Ford engine. Once they made that decision in the '80s, all future engines were handicapped for performance applications. The Voodoo engine is horrible because the stroke is too long, a dimension driven by the decision to use the narrow bore centers of the old small block Ford OHV engine. They should have made the bore as large as possible within the bore center constraints and let the displacement be determined by the use of a stroke no longer than 3.1".
@10:46 you talked about the 3 valves that, "...move incrementally based on engine load..." So, that idea has been around for a long time. Further on you even stated that it is like a, "baby supercharger...", and you are spot on in that statement. So, this design is a "charge of air" design, aka, the "Kadenacy effect". Ford employed the same design in the 3.8L, the 4.2L and other V6 engine formats. I have a video on here of me replacing the gaskets on the 3 piece Ford 4.2 v6 that shows the similar design. Ford calls it the "IMRC- Intake Manifold Runner Control" system. The valves hold a charge of fresh air for the next intake stroke which causes a boost to efficiency. It's sort of like having a 1/8 supercharge. Manufacturers have been incorporating it for well over 20 years in most of their vehicles for boosted and efficiency performance.
Ya no. Corvette is an exotic alternative. It’s the ongoing attempt for repackaged and rebranded exotic experience. It’s done a good job at that, and makes the exotic experience more reachable by a larger market by being more affordable. Whether corvette or any of its versions exceed the makes it seeks to emulate and compete with it will always be Chevrolet Corvette which is fine, it’s always a great affordable exotic substitute
Can't deny Chevy definitely dropped an anvil (cut to scene of anvil dropping in coyote vs roadrunner scene) with this one seriously! Loving the C8 Stingray in so many ways! Didn't think GM actually had it in them after seeing the Cien concept never seeing the light of day! That concept could've easily rivaled the Bugatti Eb110 with it's 7.5 litre V-12 sitting under the hood! Great job GM now bring us a new Camaro with top notch performance,design & yea a voracious & venerable rumbling V8 for ole' time sake,a kinda last hoorah for the demise of the push rod! C'mon what ya gotta lose??
The only thing this car is missing is lightweight. They should make a factory lightweight version or instead of making the ZR1 more powerful use the same engine setup and shed weight.
The most impressive engine is the Chevy 350, over 50 years of proven race history and continued aftermarket science development. The most reliable engine ever that has a displacement over 200ci. The only reason Chevy stopped producing it was pressure from EPA and stuck up marketing executives that don't have a fucking clue to what is cool or what makes sense. I don't doubt this engine is amazing just don't call it the most impressive unless there is at least 10 years of proof!
You can steal Ferrari's engine, but a 1 year old Corvette is a pile of rattling plastic, with so many fit and finish problems, you'd think it was a salvage rebuild. Dealer keeps fixing same problems when they can't find a loophole to hide behind. Pretty soon, you're out of warranty, or find out for expensive fixes that after 30 days the fix again is not covered.
Just so you know the 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500 does come with a LS33. The aluminum block. I know because I own one. It was a special order option when I custom ordered my truck. Its the type B.
What makes the z06 different from the base model has always been comfort. In your 40s you might appreciate the performance, but by your mid 50s you won't feel like working as hard for it.
Z06 options have always been about performance though. I'm in my mid 50s, ride Ducati superbikes and all my cars *(including my Corvette) are manual trans and pretty much as stripped down and light as I could order/build them. Hell, I don't even own a single pair of white new balances .😆
@CCH7540 I have a c5 z06, that is cammed and has a super heavy clutch. All class has been removed for performance. I went too far, it's like having a Ducati in my parking spot. I usually drive my miata. My body isn't what it used to be. If I had a base model automatic I'd probably have sold the miata by now.
@@norman1907 I can relate :) Broken back, neck surgeries, ribs, feet/toes, fingers, both collar bones, a sternum, right arm and left leg over the years. My C7 Grand sport M7 is probably the most civilized ride other than my wife's Grand Cherokee, but then I've got a old Mustang with a stroker motor, 6 point bar, fixed race buckets and a clutch that'd wear out a bodybuilder in traffic. Sometimes we just go too far :D
@@norman1907 I sincerely hope you do too sir. Best of luck! Only advice I have is to actually pay attention to and abide by their instructions on how to properly recover :) I've been known to not always be as patient as instructed and it usually comes back to bite me. I'm getting smarter as I age, but it's a crap shoot as to whether the increase in my wisdom will ever surpass my ability to injure myself 😆
Every brand has had their OHC. Ford, with the 427 SOHC and the 8ft timing chain that got 86'd from NASCAR or the Taurus SHO with Yamhama's DOHC, which no one bought becuase everyone had a plan "Taurus". The orignal ZR1 DOHC co-developed by Lotus, which didn't sell many units... Even Dodge with the 2.0 DOHC and their replacement for the OHV 5.2 and 5.9 Magnum (318/360) SOHC 4.7/4.7HO which was then replaced by the Hemi because "Marketing" OHC are awesome, if you know to buy one.
The 4.7 wasn't replaced by the hemi. It was dropped due to cost. 4.7 production was from 1999 to 2011 while the Gen 3 hemi came back in 2003. The 4.7 (and the 3.7 powertec), the 3.5 and 2.7 V6s were dropped with the merger with fiat. The 3.6 pentastar replaced all these engines.
@@JJsGA "dropped" Replaced...semantics plus the 4.7 got "horrible gas milage" in regards to changing landscape in V8 power to fuel economy ratio... 250hp and 13mpg vs 340hp and 18mpg again, you saw WAY more "Got a Hemi" ads while the Dakota 4.7 was still in production through the '12 model year. A marketing way of shifting and replacing. with the MDS/Flexfuel becoming the thing which was not able to be retrofitted easy to the 4.7 (this is where Cost does come in) even after swapping to dual spark plugs like the hemi in 2008?
@@NXT_LVL 4.7 got way better then 18 mpg 🤣 hell our old 2003 druango routinely got 23 highway. And it's not "semantics" it's fact. They dropped engines during the merger as the 3/4.7s were more costly to produce when 1 engine could (the 3.6) replaces 4 engines. It was never about poor sales or reliability or marketing. It was cost cutting.
What are you talking about? GM is a multi billion dollar company and has a lot of time in building excellent products both domestic and international. So with that said, build and developing a flat plane V8 isn’t rocket science. Besides other countries have been copycatting the USA for years! A known fact that seems to have been forgotten. I am fascinated by the evolution of the corvette and the new midengined Z07 is just another step in the right direction. Hyundai is another that’s stepped up their game and is the fifth biggest car manufacturer in the world. GM is sitting on top of the heap, regardless, I would not expect anything less of a company that can easily spend 2-3 billion just on advertising.
Sadly C6 Z06 has more torque than New C8 Z06 which is a total downgrade, for me C6 ZR1 with its LS9 is the best and the fastest Corvette ever , even faster than C7 ZR1 .
Whos the tech guy on this? Most powerful production motor ever, not just US. Don't show LS motors when talking about the C5 (especially the custom built v12) Not all chevy is pushrod, and it's not the first time it's been in a Corvette.
I was just on the Chevy Corvette website and NOWHERE did they mention ZO6 - Z51 or anything in between. All they said was L1 - L2 - L3. All have the exact same 495 HP engine. The only difference is just the options other than the engine. On the Chevy corvette website it says that the L1 is the lightest of the Vettes. Am I missing something here?
I'd like to rate this the best sounding of all LS/LT designs, I mean I still hate it, but the healthy na K series sound of the LT6 still sounds better than the broken 3800 noise Corvettes have made since 1997
A guy I work with was issued apparently #59 off of the line sold as the 2021 year model so I'm trying to understand more about this new monster that's been roving our break room & what all this stuff is he's talking about. Oh yeah, his he referrers to as "come get me red". And boy, is it red. He hates that he can't spin the tires though, only chirp them. I'm sure that if he finds an all-wheel-drive over-ride, that'll be the 1st things that he does. Thanx for pointing out that it breaths free air, I figured all cars of this status were charged in some shape.
OMG! Someone finally said it.....The 5.3 truck engine IS NOT an LS engine. My biggest car pet peeve is when everyone says their doing an LS swap and they use the 4.8, 5.3 or 6.0 truck engine... Not an LS engine people, close in some regards and some of the same parts but close don't count. Being a C5 owner with an LS1 and a Tahoe owner with a 5.3 believe me there is a huge difference.
It's the same basic platform. And some LS and "L" engines share blocks that are virtually identical. Just look at an LS3 and L92. They are all 3/4 gen small blocks. It's that simple. Hell, your LS1 heads will bolt straight on to your 5.3.
I came across the Areovette not to long ago. The mid engine concept from the 80s. The spec for it was a 6.2 liter 4 ROTOR with 5k rpm. Just imagine how things would have been for the mid C8 if that happened.
5k is low. Wankels were capable of 20k RPM back then. The Mercedes C 111 was a sleek 4 rotor Wankel 2.4 Liter, 345 hp, 186 mph+ car. Only a handful of prototypes were made; the 70s fuel crisis hit. Wankels had great volumetric efficiency, fuel mileage not so much then. And relatively short wiper seal life.
@@jamesredman1263 it just reminded me of that weird mid engine prototype. It just blows my mind that the made a 6 liter rotory. Those Doritos had to have been HUGE.
So Chevy just "copied" a Ferrari motor? Did everyone forget the last 15 years of IMSA dominance the C6R and C7R have laid down with Pratt and Miller 5.5L V8s? Not saying the didn't borrow ideas from Ferrari but I'm gonna go on a whim and say that magical 5.5L displacement number didn't come from nowhere........ Edit: Definitely typed all that before I got to the part where he mentions IMSA lol.
While I do think Chevy upped the game by quite the margin, absolutely love these things, so did Ferrari and this should not be compared to no old NA V8 Ferrari's imho. More like to the new modern baby Ferrari, so compare it to GTB296 and things will start to change real fast and we are no longer looking at no walk overs, in fact I think we looking at beating whatever the letters on the back of it. But I love that they did this V8, Ferrari went into the hybrid swamp, sure they did it really well with that V6 and the McLaren competition sound even better still to my ears but so glad they make this last stand cause no matter how old dinosaurs like us want to fight this change it is going to happen. Nothing will stop it, just hope for more time.
*Would you buy this or a Ferrari?!*
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Hey are u guys doing a give away
I would buy this, mainly because ferrari is so stupidly strict with their cars you can get a cease and desist
Ferrari. The corvette will depreciate while the Ferrari will only gain value
That “lay” within, not “lied” within
Ferrari, and I did.
If the Z06 is crazy, imagine what the ZR1 will be like.
No shit man!!
Hybrid...
Holy shite, YOU'RE RIGHT!
Faster but not as high revving unfortunately
Supercharged
Congrats from Australia on the C8 and it’s high performance versions. The US should pat itself on the back for this piece of engineering.
Congrats to Australia for absolutely nothing - From Canada.
I say this as someone who isn't a GM fanboy. This car is amazing in every way, including the styling. I wouldn't feel short changed owning one of these versus any other super car out there. I do like the Ferrari styling the most out of any of the mid-engine cars, but they're notoriously unreliable. With this you get the performance, you get the cheaper price and you get the GM reliability and parts support. I say this understanding that an engine replacement would be catastrophically expensive, but then again it wouldn't be such a special car otherwise. Similar equation with the GT350 from Ford. That VooDoo engine and the sound it makes, makes it worth every penny they charged for that car and then some.
I think both Ford and GM can do some amazing things when they really want to. Glad to see some American exotics hitting the market!
Twice as much.
Well almost. A Z06 is $110k and a C8 is only $65k, 70% more.
It looks extremely cheap.
@@kronk9418 lol it's literally plastic glued together
Mid engine GT 40 would be my first choice
I was a project engineer at GM when they started developing the LT6 (wasn't on the project itself, was working on a truck engine). It was great seeing the block and heads working through the prototype machine shop. And yes, in the competitive analysis lab, there was a Ferrari 458 engine torn down. But this is nothing to get excited about. Every engine manufacturer buys their competitors engines to study.
And yet I doubt that Ferrari has felt the need to buy one of GM's pushrod truck engines. After all, they're not in that market.
You mean Ferrari is not in the reliability market!🤣
Perhaps Lamborghini could use that GM pushrod truck engine to make a faster, more furious…tractor? Does Lamborghini even make tractors anymore? Probably not after the Miura…SVJ!
@@jeffscott3160 right? 🤣🤣🤣
@@jeffscott3160 Neither is GM, GM shit breaks constantly. It’s not a Toyota or Honda.
@@kronk9418 Don't think any of your beloved ricers are part of the supercar conversation but thanks for playing cupcake!
I got the word yesterday that my dealer just received a Z06 allocation and my C8 Z06 order will be rolling through the Bowling Green factory in late December! I was starting to get pretty depressed having sold my C7 Z06 eight months ago and didn't think the new Z06 would become a reality for years. Amazing turn of events, super stoked.
Thank you for this video. Obviously I've tried to absorb everything on the C8 Z and its technology. I have learned more about this incredible engine through this video than anything else I have watched. Great content, production and presentation. I am now a subscriber and look forward to following your channel! Congrats!
Cool story, bro.
Pics or lies.
Ferrari is using GM electric steering and magnetic suspension.
The z06 is making more power than any other naturally aspirated v8. So even if they stole it, they apparently did it better than anyone else anyways.
Can't wait to buy mine.
Europe: American cars can't handle
Also Europe: can we buy motor designs and suspension patents?
They are using a larger engine, the specific output (hp/L) is nowhere the Ferrari's v8 in the 458 Speciale, a car from 2013.
@@Drake-296 you are talking about a dual overhead cam, direct injected engine with a flat plane crank. It's got 4 camshaft actuators and drinks gas like a super duty. The cost to rebuild something like that, let alone maintain it is astronomical in comparison.
The cost of the replacement of the 4 camshaft actuators, plus the timing chain and the bearings for that service is roughly $20k
You can buy a new engine for that corvette and have a few grand to spare 😀
And it's better on fuel. By alot.
@@Yaboidavey That's an absolutely irrelevant point related to supercar engines, stop glorifying your vettes murican.
@@Drake-296 oh the Honda defense........a Mazda Rx8 makes more hp/l than the 458 way back in 2003
The Z06 is my dream car but I wonder what they will do for the ZR1. imagine a rocket strapped to the back and packing 1000HP.
I seriously doubt any car manufacturer has any plans for rocket powered cars.
LT6 TT or supercharged
Its called a Tesla Model S Plaid.
@@m.m4982 Tesla Roadster might have cold gas thrusters. Its close.
One thing's for sure... the ZR1 will need forced induction, and a different engine, to top those numbers. Like the 7.0L that debuted in 2003... this engine simply won't tolerate much in the way of power adders. The fatigue life of titanium connecting rods, simply won't stand it for 100,000 miles. If they drop the rods, that means they'll have to revert to a crossplane crank, because the flat plane crack can't swing that much mass and survive. That also means less RPM, and more displacement, just to hit the LT's baseline. So it will definitely need forced induction for anything more.
I'm more curious about the Z06. Traditionally, Z06 was basically just a road-legal lightening package... where they took the light body variant, ditched any unnecessary fluff, and gave it the best performing powerplant with a hotter cam. I doubt there's any headroom for a cam upgrade to the LT... and short of ditching the infotainment center and floormats... I don't think there's much they can do to make it lighter, and still pass safety requirements. So is this really a Z06 at all... or another fake play on an old nameplate?
The C8 Z06 design brief dates all the way back to 2015 as the original concept. They did use the 458 and 911 GT2/3 as benchmarks. Also, the exhaust tech alone and the Z07 package spec moreover is pretty wild.
The C8 actually rides on the same platform as three of its predecessors (C5, C6, and C7), just the engine layout changed. It's not an all-new design, nor is the Z06's 5.5L engine a clean-sheet like the video says. It's a short-stroked LT1 which in turn is an evolution of the LS3, which is an evolution of the LS2 and of the LS1
@@thatboringblenderguy what? It’s a complete ground up build. It does NOT share the same architecture with any of the previous cars at all.
Also, the LT6 does not share any parts with any previous GM engine. No idea where you got that. Maybe you’re thinking of the LT2
@@APFSDS-DU Cadillac made a mid engine concept car don't forget about that
@@APFSDS-DU The LT6 is a slightly bored up, heavily stroked down LT2 to allow for a flat plane crank. You can convert a pushrod into a cammer (though not the other way around). Lotus helped GM with that back in the 80s. Even Ford did that. Only problem is it costs a lot of development $$$
@@APFSDS-DU The Corvette C8 is called Y2XX while C7 and earlier, dating back to C4 were called Y1XX (C5 got a heavily revised chassis and it continued on with C6 and C7).
Corvette as a sub-brand (it really is its own brand since it has an assembly plant exclusive to Corvette, and it's Corvette's only assembly plant) made the C8 more complex than a traditional, semi-muscle quasi-grand tourer. Mid-engine and dual-clutch.
Many front-engine cars got converted to rear-engine, like the Renault V6 Clio, but that's for another topic... (C8 is mid, but that's not far off). To be fair, C4 to C7 models are all front-MID
Uh nope. The first flat plane crank engine was Cadillacs design, which happens to be a GM brand. GM has so many patents on engine design its hard to remember where all of this started from in the first place.
nonsense...is like saying that using a turbo today means copying from who invented the turbo before 1900. Do you think there is much in common between early Cadillac flat planes and a 458 engine? There is definitely way more which GM learnt from opening up a 458 engine bought in Poland than the resemblance between a modern flat plane engine and GM's early designs. I dont think you want to start talking about patents from Otto, Benz and Daimer right? If today a z06 is using ESC do you say it copied Mercedes Benz from the 80s?
@@j7b890 GMs entire lineup is based on BENCHMARKING since restructuring. All Camaros and Cadillacs are based on BMWs design for its 3 series, but GM takes it further than anyone could have imagined. The actual chassis of a C8 is based on a 458, BUT ITS TEN TIMES BETTER. GM knows the consumer game very well.
@@j7b890 Ferrari stole GM’s magnetic shocks from them after licensing it from them for years. And this engine has a lot of innovations the 458 didn’t, including the lack of hugely expensive maintenance to keep it up and running.
@@markw9512 Ferrari is paying for that technology , as well as paying for multimatic ones on higher models. Guess your idea of stealing is a confused one. 458 engines are quite reliable. plenty of people race them. By the way, do you also say that all of Corvettes steal brakes from Brembo (which Ferrari uses since the 70's) ? Just to understand your thinking..
@@j7b890 Ferrari stole the magnetic shocks from GM, that’s a fact. Ferrari license to technology from GM for multiple years before finally, magically, inventing their own variation on the design. So you want to talk about benchmarking? They paid a lot of money for that benchmark.
And How much does it cost to maintain a Ferrari 458? It needs to be have expensive maintenance performed ($thousands), the Z06 motor will not need to be opened up before 100,000 miles.
Chevrolet Corvette C8 Z06, Ah yes the “ultimate budget Supercar slayer”
👍.
Until the dealerships mark them up $50k...
I would say a budget super car it's no longer a super car slayer it is a super car
I think using the term “budget” to refer to a vehicle which runs well up over $100k (over $150K with Z07) is kind of silly, that’s well into Mercedes S-Class territory. Cheap it isn’t!
@@markw9512 it depends on your budget
The ZO6 would really be a bargin, if the dealors weren't scalping them!
Chevy should do what tesla is doing and terminate the dealerships and sell directly to the people
Supply and demand! Welcome to America
@@patrickr2686 my thoughts exactly.
MSRP dealers are many. Just needed to get in line 2-3years ago to get it soon. My deposit was put in early 2020. No extra fees and allocation coming any day…
@@highpeaks6542 You should check out RacerX story and also C. W. Lemoine.
I’m still waiting on a C8 stingray. I can’t wait it’s now my ultimate favorite car of all time everytime I see one I just get starstruck. It looks like an exotic and performs like one as well. The Z06 is my next dream car but a C8 in general is my dream car. I think I will literally shed a tear when mine finally shows up.
I just saw prices are falling big time and inventory is really going up. Please use that to get a good price
I saw a motor carrier FULL of c8s pull into my local dealership earlier this week. They all had the wraps on them unfortunately...
@@user-zx1ir7jt4c that just means those who want one can get one without having to pay over. They should be able to negotiate like any other car. I saw a corvette world ad where they were cutting prices on all their C8s. People don’t realize the C8 opportunity that’s available now. The Z06s are showing up people aren’t going to pay over anymore
@@user-zx1ir7jt4c I'm an intermodal truck driver, see them all the time going down the highway coming from Bowling Green.
It took me 8 months after ordering to arrival then sold it 6 months later.
IMO the LT6 is the most amazing part of the C8 ZO6.
I think the mid engine layout is.
@@nezabytes awesome they did but the rig is not impressive at all it has too much understeer and the c8 stingray is slower than a 2010 gtr with less power more weight and worse tires
Terrific job explaining the pros and cons of each engine configuration. It all makes sense now...
no, most of what he said was BS, see my other comments
Look up SBC Crossplane on YT. Somebody built one back in the '50's or '60's. The man that owns it now bought off of eBay 20 some years ago bur never put it together. He finally did and made a video of it on a Dyno. It's pretty dang wild. For what it is and the weight of the parts available at the time, it puts down respectable power.
That engine is real nice :) My favourite engine is the Cosworth RA 6.5ltr V12 Engine. 1,000bhp/NA and spins to 11,100 rpm. It also meets the EU's very strict latest emissions standards. Sounds like an F1 car too!
Corvette being supercar slayer for years 💥💥
Ahh.. I really think that honor goes to the Dodge Viper
@@RW-zh7kl That got slain by 4th gen camaro By little 350 LT1
6 speed
All the way up to 200 mph with stock exaust manifolds lol
Viper like Cobra are dead Snakes
Yes please do a "Pushrod VS DOHC" aka "OHV VS OHC" video. But it is still amazing that Mary Barra(GM CEO) and the "suits" still greenlighted and push the C8 and Gemini projects even when going through bankruptcy and government directed total reorganization. While in the '90s the Corvette engineers had to design and develop the C5 in secret and on their own time.
GM was well out of bankruptcy by 2014 and I am excited for what they think of next. One key lesson GM learned is that nobody wants the average car designed for an average person. Look for more interesting and unique cars from GM in the future for sure!
They said with c7 they were at the limits of what they could do with a front engine car.
This engine is impressive but for that money, it should be. While we always say it’s half the price of an exotic car, a lot of that is because they can get that money. $120k is a boatload of money for a Corvette, especially when few people can tell, or know, the difference between a $60k Corvette and this one. That’s always been an issue with the true badass Corvettes. Doesn’t matter with a Ferrari or Lamborghini. The Shelby Gt350 engine is more impressive, one for being first and two for putting a badass 1 off engine in a low production $55k car. I like that they did a flat plane crank tho. Hi revs just sound cool. This one doesn’t sound anything like the Shelby, hell, it doesn’t sound much like an Italian car either. Im glad it has its own sound.
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90 degree cranks do not fire at quicker intervals. There's no torque difference because of crank degree. The difference is which bank fires every 90 degrees. In a 90 degree crank, the firing order resembles this side-to-side LRLLRLRR -- each interval happening at 90 degrees. In a 180 degree cranks, the firing order side-to-side is like this: LRLRLRLR -- each interval still firing every 90 degrees because each 90 degrees your flat plane rotates, it puts two pistons at TDC in the other cylinder bank (because that bank is at 90 degrees from the other).
The main difference in torque lies with the fact that, without the inherent imbalance of the flat plane crank, most 90 degree cranks have a longer stroke. Longer stroke means the cranking force produced by the cylinder pressure is further away from the crank's center, thus using that leverage to increase torque at the crank.
Ill start by saying I am NOT a GM fanatic, but I do appreciate the machine... this was a great video. Thank you for your production. Keep up the awesome work!
I have never been a fan of GM or Corvettes but I think they finally got something special going on. Just in time, I am 52 now and would have to buy the matching leather jacket and gold jewelery that Corvette owners alway seem to have. I will have to buy one while I can still get in and out of the car!
Don’t forget the new balance shoes 😁 all jokes aside yes they actually have something special there.
Agree with you and I’m also 52 and a Porsche owner! Seems like a great car!!
Can we talk about how good this video is? The animations with elegant explanations are just on point!
@@sjb3460 I learned what a crankshaft is from the movie Tenet.
It's a device that can make the world go backward through time.
I'm assuming camshafts have something to do with time travel.
half of what the guy says are lies. It's like he doesn't even know anything about cars and is just some yoyo making vids.
@@lqr824 could have been straight out of Fast and Furious 😂🤣😂
@@lqr824 Yeah im still stuck on the click bate title of the video.
The most impressive production engine ever to come out of America? Really? The Ford GT EcoBoost 6 and the Hellcat Redeye Hemi are both saying hold my beer… 😂
Thanks for the speedy education. Very insightful. Now, if we can only convince GM to make a manual to row your own gears. Otherwise, C7 and below will have my heart. C8 will get my blessings. The manual transmission is my soul.
Manual transmissions are dead in super cars. The only reason they exist is for the memes.
Machines can do it better, faster, and more precise than a human can. They also have multiple engagement gears that have almost zero time between shifts.
As someone who enjoys a manual transmission car and DDs a GD WRX.
These cars are just on an entirely different level.
F1 don't really usual manual transmission cars anymore either not really.
Most race cars use inline shifters which isn't really all that manual. Sure you're controlling the time when gears engage, but they are doing almost zero clutch work.
@@seemlesslies The median age of Corvette buyers is 61 YEARS. As an older buyer, myself, my hips and knees are in no shape. I drove nothing but manual cars for over 40 years. But now my 6-speed Mazda 6 rarely leaves the driveway, and it's clutch is feather light compared to those in performance cars. Besides, neither my daughter nor her friends can even drive a manual -- half of them don't drive, period!
I don't do American cars, but this to me is the ultimate American sports car. The attention to detail is astounding for an American auto maker. If GM had this standard years ago, it would still be no. 1
I own a c7 with a 7sp manual. I’ll think about a c8 zo6 after my hip and knee wears out but not before.
Push rod engines can rev high proof nascar there small block based V8s can rev to 10,000 rpm , it comes down to what kind of camshaft lifters and rocker arms like an flattop camshaft can rev to 7,000 rpm but struggles on the other hand hydraulic roller camshafts can rev higher with ease it also comes down to other stuff like the weight of the valve train ,rotating assembly and flywheel. There’s some dohc engines that can’t rev higher then 6,400 rpm and can’t go higher then 6,900 and 7,000 and they have dohc 👀
They can rev high but you lose power down low. What’s the highest revving production pushrod? The DOHC with cam phasers on each and variable lift on the cams can make an engine that makes power at a much wider rev range.
I’d totally rock an LS7 or LS3 so I’m no hater.
@@kc510 You may argue production but Hennessy F5 6.6L TT is said to rev to around 8500 in vmax mode. As far as n/a can't really think of a any production model.
Yeah but no at that point the pushrod is useless for every day use and the high spring pressure would kill economy ohc is just better all the way
@@austinhowze6280 OHC makes the engine taller. That's why 5.5L is the biggest DOHC anyone's seen in a sports car, but there's a 10.4L big block with more HP than the DOHC that I believe could fit in the Corvette.
@@xxxYYZxxx theres 2000hp dohc honda based engines no need for displacement if the heads don't flow the air
That's nuts just thinking of the weight of the engines. A stock sbc is 575. BBC is 685 stock. That's crazy
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The V8 sound in this c8 doesn't match like the Ls engines example c5 c6 c7 those v8 sounds amazing 🔥🤤
The stingray is priced right but there's something about it I don't quite like. The wheels don't look quite as aggressive and some of the proportions don't look right to me. They nailed it with the zo6 but they raised up the price where I can't get one. If you guys can afford this I'd say get it as the next gen will almost assuredly be electric
NO flat plane has much better balance . The problem with cross plane is it has less primary and secondary balance . Source = Driving 4 answers Crossplane vs flat plane crankshafts (engine engineering site on you tube . Or ask any mechanical engineer .
I always felt like these look cheap in person
That's my biggest issue as well. I have a 997 911 turbo and have been itching to get into a Z06 but every time I see it in person (the base) it just looks cheap and bolted on. The wing looks terrible too so I would consider a delete. Maybe I have to wait and see the ZO6 in person.
If that's what cheap looks like, sign me up for Z07 pack Z06 please!
Meanwhile you're 16
Try 38 and have the means to buy one, got the wife’s approval after a year of nagging and when I saw in person just was so let down. no test drives so I can’t comment on that but looks ugly it doesn’t flow well .
@@mp-qz3pfnot the zo6
@12:40 after the part where he explained the oiling system i was like “they built this summbich for lemans”
This car must be crazy fun to drive. Very cool engine.
And to the question of this or a Ferarri…… yeah, a Ferarri is gorgeous, fast, sounds amazing and gets more attention. But when you’ve driven that Ferarri for a few thousand miles and now it needs 10 grand worth of service work, no thanks. That’s where most people don’t understand. Just because you can afford to buy the car initially doesn’t mean you can afford to own it. 2 different worlds
...Lots of Ferrari DRIVERS....Not so many Ferrari OWNERS............
I'm doing an LT6 swap to my beloved 2012 Camaro SS soon in honor of my grandpa.
I’m really tempted to put one in my c3 but I doubt it’ll fit
@@0xymfzzty0 While i enjoy some builds that rival the space shuttle in complexity, I would rather just go old school big block with a classic C3.
Old school builds just seem to have more spirit and heart for me....
@@JungSooLeee Yeah that’s the main reason I stayed with my rebuilt (now 372) 350sbc, but pushing a measly ~400 hp is rookie territory 😂. I don’t really like the big blocks and force induction on an factory engines is illegal in my country, I’ll probably give in to my friends and stroke it
@@0xymfzzty0 wait a little longer, someone will eventually shoehorn that thing on a C3.
@@squidusn71 it will find its way into a miata eventually 😂
Flat plane or cross plane, a V8 Still fires a piston every 90 degrees.
not steal but reverse engineering and that's normal
It's shame that Z06 can't hit magic 9000 rpm just like Ferrari 458 BUT I doubt normal people can know the sound differences between 8500 rpm and 9000 rpm, besides Z06 C8 is 1000cc larger and more powerful than 458 so it's still a win
because the LT6 is a converted LT2, which in turn is an LT1 and an LS3
Title is click bate - When I saw it, I thought, I can't wait to hear this argument (which was never made).
That being said it was a good video.
There were a couple of inaccuracies:
- In the video it was said that the cam in pushrod engines reduced room for intake ports - Technically false, but effectively true - it was the passages for the pushrods going through the heads that reduced the size that intake ports could be made (If you ever watch videos about port flow for OHV engines they will frequently talk about the location of the pushrod in relation to the port)
- In the video it was suggested that a OHC engine couldn't easily fit in previous corvettes (exception LT5) - The LT5 was absolutely massive and the corvette was not redesigned to fit it (it was redesigned to some extent, but nothing special was done to make room for the engine itself). With the 5th generation corvette, GM fit a northstar (quad-cam V8) under the hood and called it a cadillac XLR and they even had enough room under the hood to make a supercharged model. There are also tons of of other cars with 90 degree Vs and quad-cams with the engine in the front (Mostly from Audi, Toyota, and Ford)
- The reason GM didn't do this sooner was because it made for a less competitive race car. The new car is faster in solo races for sure (and may be faster overall, I haven't really kept up with it). The corvette had 2 big advantages in their previous generations, fuel efficiency and braking power - Running the race engines at low (relative) RPM resulted in better fuel economy during a race, meaning less stops for fuel - Having the engine in the front meant better braking performance, this allowed for easier passing at the track. This is why GM didn't move the engine to the back and switch to a high revving engine sooner.
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Apostrophe abuse.
Is 'boundaries' so hard to type?
(My Android suggested it, by the time I had typed 'bou... ')
Apostrophes are for contractions or possessive form. (I know your teachers never stressed or enforced this.)
@@jamiebowles4588 Who cares man.
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Anybody who cares about clarity in written communication. I admit that there are fewer & fewer of us, as time goes on.
Welcome to Babel 2.0, dude.
Punctuation matters.
Chevy started designing this the same year Ford came out with one in the Voodoo engine, they where stealing from Ford.
The Z06 is unreal bro ! Based on the leaks of what the C8 platform would look like, the Z06 exceeded the rumored number of “at least 625 horsepower flat plane crank v8.” It ended up being 670hp. The ZR1 was rumored to have 850 horsepower twin turbo 5.5 liter v8. Which just the thought of is mind boggling because the Z06 is such a beast already.
I am scared for the engine supports. Videos I have seen of the engine flexing with gear shifting gives me pause, then the more powerful Z06, more engine flexing. By the time we get to a twin turbo 5.5 liter possibly 800+ HP the lightweight frame the supports are attached will be screaming for relief. Thats what full warranties are for, I guess.
As long as they get that power to the wheels..
First video I’ve seen from ideal media and it was great. Everything from the graphics to the breakdown was outstanding! Just subscribed
So we are just going to forget the C6 Corvette Le Man's win.
And the C5, C7, C8, and the cadillac prototypes.
Say it again!
I have a weird feeling that it destroys the competition, because there simply is no modern competition. The age of such engines was late 2000s to early 2010s, nowadays, there's just no way these would even get homologated (and sold) in anywhere else than northern us, which is a really small market all things considered and thus there are no profits to be made if any competition starts arising.
Australia my friend. they have a car scene greater than us based and it seems like the fucks given over there is minimal as far as cars go.
@@Heywood_yablowme I know the car culture there is big, but not much more than that Im afraid. TIL
What??? Lamborghini, Bugatti, Ferrari, and Mercedes would like to have a word with you.
@@SuperSilvi1990 They’re all turbocharged these days. This is naturally aspirated, different ballgame.
@@SuperSilvi1990 now ask yourself why can this car be had for 90-130k and still mentioned with this level of performance
So I have a 2024 z06. Let me say that car is an absolute monster. I’ve never spun it up to 8600 rpm because I’ve never been able to if I get it on it only gets up to about 7000 rpm at that speed the car is on the verge of unmanageability, because I have the traction control on. It is not for the faint of heart. I am almost 60 years old and it’s more car than I’ve ever driven in my life. I don’t think there’s any car in town that would ever think of touching it is it better than a stingray? Well, I see people on Facebook marketplace pretty regularly selling their stingray so they could buy a 006 so that tells you something
It is important to understand that this is not the engine for tuning. It is essentially maxed out straight from the factory. If you change the intake it is likely that you will actually decrease that volumetric efficiency instead of increasing it.
The engine still has to abide by epa mandates. Anybody tuning that can turn a blind eye to that. They might squeeze a couple more horses out.
@@victorcordova1508 Exactly. Even high flow cats and headers will probably net 15-20hp. It did on my cayman.
True. BMW got to that point with the straight 6 in the M3's. Had to force induction to get anything more out of them.
Its far from maxed out. But I'm just some hillbilly from Michigan.
Two bottles of NOSS, a stand alone computer for tuning, some head porting and Titanium valves for more RPM's.
GM has led the automobile world in R&D spending for decades. For example, GM manufactured Cadillacs with cylinder deactivation 44 years ago. GM invented EVs almost 30 years ago.
GM doesn't need Ferrari technology. They invest far more in R&D than Ferrari's total revenue. Rather, GM management needs the willingness to build cars with the cutting edge tech GM engineers develop.
One of the criteria this video ignored was reliability. Developing massive horsepower is easy. Developing a high performance engine that can be pushed hard and still operate dependably for years is another matter. GM customers would never tolerate the frequency of repairs Ferraris require.
And I thought the Ford coyote engine was impressive getting 103% VE, 110% VE from an NA production engine is insane.
To be honest dodges engines are the best in my opinion when it comes to raw power out of a factory engine.
Was realy disapointed with how real gutless the flat plain crank in those were
Tryed to Race one that was showing off best sounding engine ive ever heard
But has the power of Ford Pinto
Ford Left them for Dead for Electric Car
You should find a mustang 2 with 4 speed and put a cleveland in it
They were a Blast
It’s nice to see GM developing and producing great designs.
I think all the rockets stamped on the engine allude also to the Rocket V-8s of the 1950 Oldsmobiles, which a thing in their day.
More like copying 😊👍❤️💯🔥🙏
@@ashookchandra8191 they have done that since the beginning of the company.
@@ashookchandra8191 bro is mad and salty
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It’s always funny to see test mules on here. I’ve seen most of the ones portrayed here in person. The black Holden Test Mule was at Speedway gas station in Milford one morning at 4:45am. I was looking it over not knowing what it was
That intake @ 10:42 design looks astoundingly like a late 80's Lingenfelter superram tpi unit but modernized. So much so that ifyou removed the butterflies in the plenum it would be (just) about visually exact. The 80's plenum would have a 4th port.
Agreed and many other intakes used similar designs I think they old hilborn could be included and the butterflys date back to the late 80s and early 90s too. In fact one of them was the 1989 Ford SHO had a 220 horse 3 liter six with 12 "tuned" intake runners. Six longer narrow set of primaries for low end torque and at about 4k rpm the butterflies opened up a second set of short fat tubes for high rpm volume. You could literally bury the 8k tach but the cable shifter was atrocious. Just saying there new tech has been around for awhile but pump it up for the buyers the drivers know what's what. Meh
1990 ZR1 LT5 DOHC motor, tuned runner length and 4 valves per cylinder.
@@Tehzii I remember when that car came out, it was a big load of holy cow for a 20 year old kid.
Great info and presentation, not sure about the cluckbait title as you didnt actually go into any detail about what exactly was stolen.
Agreed
He probably talking about the Flat plane crank because that’s what Ferrari uses in the OEM engines this isn’t anything new a woman did swapped a set of flat plane cranks and twin turbocharged her LT1 when she first bought her new Corvette and converted it to a drag car breaking records when that car first came out, she was the first to create that mod on the new corvette but not the first to bring a heavy modified LT1, there’s a video on 1320 where a guy built a twin turbocharged LT1 doing 7’s as a daily with no plane crank
Listen Man.
Two words.
Electronic, valves.
And also two engines.
A v6 for the rear.
And a v4 for the front.
💥🧠💥
First off after many years of playing with different types of motor sports I can say I love cars trucks and bikes as a whole but I will say it's nice to see automotive engines finally catching up to 1980's motorcycle engine technology 😜
GM is finally catching up with the rest of the world. Nearly all 2022 cars are 4v dohc vvt, and now in 2022, most are also turbo.
This is a modern F-355 in almost every way with regard to the design language...
The 5 valve flat plane v8 of the F-355 is clearly part of the inspiration.
Chevy figured out how to stroke it to push more weight giving it more torque
Ferrari also helped Ford What a piece of crap that turned out to be
Yeah 8k rpm 700hp sbc running 100 laps straight wide open dirt racing for 40 years now seems like they do ok at high rpm and n/a hp😂
100 laps at a dirt track comes to some 50 miles or so, not exactly a testament to longevity.
@@uliwehner last one my old man built in 90’s for a friend of his is still running…
@@Thumper68 hat's off to your old man. did a little bit of math. if the car ran 50 miles every saturday for 30 years, that would make for 75,000 miles. Impressive but still less than what is expected of the average honda civic over the same period.
@@uliwehner the average civic not running wide open in awful conditions though lol. And not making near the power as well what 500 or so less hp…
@@Thumper68 my point is really that a pushrod SBC does not run at 8 grand like a say Porsche 911, and also last. i am an old aircooled VW guy, so pushrod engines are very dear to my heart, but they don't last if rev'd to 8 grand either.
I own a C7 Z06. 650hp/650ft-lb. The car calls for restraint on the street. I can't imagine a C8 Z06.
I see a lot of Ford old technology in this guys discretion. Overhead cam, intake manifold vavle, cam phasers. I am impressed with the titanium rods. 670hp natural aspiration is impressive for sure.
weird because buick was the first ever brand to use a ohc engine in a automobile.... And Cadillac was the first ever company to use a v8 in a automobile... Nothing close to ford is on this car. The lt5 in the 90s zr1 was also dohc and co developed by lotus and mercury again nothing like fords mod motors.
There's not any "old Ford technology" in the LT6...thank God! The Modular/Coyote/Voodoo engine designs are terrible from a performance standpoint, they have to use superchargers to get any HP. The basic design flaw is they kept the bore spacing of the OHV small block Ford engine. Once they made that decision in the '80s, all future engines were handicapped for performance applications. The Voodoo engine is horrible because the stroke is too long, a dimension driven by the decision to use the narrow bore centers of the old small block Ford OHV engine. They should have made the bore as large as possible within the bore center constraints and let the displacement be determined by the use of a stroke no longer than 3.1".
@10:46 you talked about the 3 valves that, "...move incrementally based on engine load..."
So, that idea has been around for a long time. Further on you even stated that it is like a, "baby supercharger...", and you are spot on in that statement.
So, this design is a "charge of air" design, aka, the "Kadenacy effect". Ford employed the same design in the 3.8L, the 4.2L and other V6 engine formats. I have a video on here of me replacing the gaskets on the 3 piece Ford 4.2 v6 that shows the similar design. Ford calls it the "IMRC- Intake Manifold Runner Control" system. The valves hold a charge of fresh air for the next intake stroke which causes a boost to efficiency. It's sort of like having a 1/8 supercharge. Manufacturers have been incorporating it for well over 20 years in most of their vehicles for boosted and efficiency performance.
It's a budget Ferrari, even if I was a billionaire I would still buy a Vette.
Seams like GM learned. Something from FORD. LOL
I now want an LT6 😂
Ya no. Corvette is an exotic alternative. It’s the ongoing attempt for repackaged and rebranded exotic experience. It’s done a good job at that, and makes the exotic experience more reachable by a larger market by being more affordable. Whether corvette or any of its versions exceed the makes it seeks to emulate and compete with it will always be Chevrolet Corvette which is fine, it’s always a great affordable exotic substitute
So taking ferrari knowledge and give it a little spice i cant wait to see what beast that Corvette would be
Hard to rev past 6500 rpm - laughs in LS7 when testing to 8k
Pushrod V8s are very capable of high rpm if it's built right.
Can't deny Chevy definitely dropped an anvil (cut to scene of anvil dropping in coyote vs roadrunner scene) with this one seriously! Loving the C8 Stingray in so many ways! Didn't think GM actually had it in them after seeing the Cien concept never seeing the light of day! That concept could've easily rivaled the Bugatti Eb110 with it's 7.5 litre V-12 sitting under the hood! Great job GM now bring us a new Camaro with top notch performance,design & yea a voracious & venerable rumbling V8 for ole' time sake,a kinda last hoorah for the demise of the push rod! C'mon what ya gotta lose??
The love and admiration of enviroweinies everywhere!
The only thing this car is missing is lightweight. They should make a factory lightweight version or instead of making the ZR1 more powerful use the same engine setup and shed weight.
I’m not a huge car guy, but wasn’t this the same game plan that Ford used with the Shelby GT350?
Yo Sparky, pros do not say RPMs. It's RPM - always. Watch it next time.
All the while I'm looking for a '60s Mopar with a Slant Six and Three-on-the-Tree!
I don’t know wha it’s called , I just know the sound it makes when it takes.a man’s pride.
Ford’s Voodoo engine was the first American flat plane crank performance engine, so who is Chevy following, Ferrari or Ford?
Did Ford go racing with it?? Can't say performance and not put it to the test like GM did here.
The most impressive engine is the Chevy 350, over 50 years of proven race history and continued aftermarket science development. The most reliable engine ever that has a displacement over 200ci. The only reason Chevy stopped producing it was pressure from EPA and stuck up marketing executives that don't have a fucking clue to what is cool or what makes sense. I don't doubt this engine is amazing just don't call it the most impressive unless there is at least 10 years of proof!
Looking at 10year development on an engine and getting DOHC as bonus while Konnigsegg pulls out a free valve engine in 3 ... With 10% of the team...
They didn’t do anything for ten years… it just sounds cool.
You can steal Ferrari's engine, but a 1 year old Corvette is a pile of rattling plastic, with so many fit and finish problems, you'd think it was a salvage rebuild. Dealer keeps fixing same problems when they can't find a loophole to hide behind. Pretty soon, you're out of warranty, or find out for expensive fixes that after 30 days the fix again is not covered.
My C8 has no rattles and the car is very reliable and the fit and finish is perfect getting 26 mpg.
Supercharger on the stock C8 and Viola!
Chevy always on Top , I dare all spoiled kids to beat it .
but... will they be reliable? thats the real question
The question that I ask
Yes
Just so you know the 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500 does come with a LS33. The aluminum block. I know because I own one. It was a special order option when I custom ordered my truck. Its the type B.
I laughed when he said that in the video, I've seen a lot of trucks with a "real" LS in em.
What makes the z06 different from the base model has always been comfort. In your 40s you might appreciate the performance, but by your mid 50s you won't feel like working as hard for it.
Z06 options have always been about performance though. I'm in my mid 50s, ride Ducati superbikes and all my cars *(including my Corvette) are manual trans and pretty much as stripped down and light as I could order/build them. Hell, I don't even own a single pair of white new balances .😆
@CCH7540 I have a c5 z06, that is cammed and has a super heavy clutch. All class has been removed for performance. I went too far, it's like having a Ducati in my parking spot. I usually drive my miata. My body isn't what it used to be. If I had a base model automatic I'd probably have sold the miata by now.
@@norman1907 I can relate :) Broken back, neck surgeries, ribs, feet/toes, fingers, both collar bones, a sternum, right arm and left leg over the years. My C7 Grand sport M7 is probably the most civilized ride other than my wife's Grand Cherokee, but then I've got a old Mustang with a stroker motor, 6 point bar, fixed race buckets and a clutch that'd wear out a bodybuilder in traffic. Sometimes we just go too far :D
@@CCH7540 my surgery is in 8 days. Opening up the lumbar, under for 6 hours. I hope I come out of it still shooting flames from my tailpipe like you.
@@norman1907 I sincerely hope you do too sir. Best of luck! Only advice I have is to actually pay attention to and abide by their instructions on how to properly recover :) I've been known to not always be as patient as instructed and it usually comes back to bite me. I'm getting smarter as I age, but it's a crap shoot as to whether the increase in my wisdom will ever surpass my ability to injure myself 😆
Every brand has had their OHC. Ford, with the 427 SOHC and the 8ft timing chain that got 86'd from NASCAR or the Taurus SHO with Yamhama's DOHC, which no one bought becuase everyone had a plan "Taurus". The orignal ZR1 DOHC co-developed by Lotus, which didn't sell many units... Even Dodge with the 2.0 DOHC and their replacement for the OHV 5.2 and 5.9 Magnum (318/360) SOHC 4.7/4.7HO which was then replaced by the Hemi because "Marketing" OHC are awesome, if you know to buy one.
The 4.7 wasn't replaced by the hemi. It was dropped due to cost. 4.7 production was from 1999 to 2011 while the Gen 3 hemi came back in 2003.
The 4.7 (and the 3.7 powertec), the 3.5 and 2.7 V6s were dropped with the merger with fiat. The 3.6 pentastar replaced all these engines.
@@JJsGA "dropped" Replaced...semantics plus the 4.7 got "horrible gas milage" in regards to changing landscape in V8 power to fuel economy ratio... 250hp and 13mpg vs 340hp and 18mpg again, you saw WAY more "Got a Hemi" ads while the Dakota 4.7 was still in production through the '12 model year. A marketing way of shifting and replacing. with the MDS/Flexfuel becoming the thing which was not able to be retrofitted easy to the 4.7 (this is where Cost does come in) even after swapping to dual spark plugs like the hemi in 2008?
@@NXT_LVL 4.7 got way better then 18 mpg 🤣 hell our old 2003 druango routinely got 23 highway. And it's not "semantics" it's fact. They dropped engines during the merger as the 3/4.7s were more costly to produce when 1 engine could (the 3.6) replaces 4 engines.
It was never about poor sales or reliability or marketing. It was cost cutting.
For the ZR1, it’s supercharged or NA. I will never stand by a turbocharged Corvette.
What are you talking about? GM is a multi billion dollar company and has a lot of time in building excellent products both domestic and international. So with that said, build and developing a flat plane V8 isn’t rocket science. Besides other countries have been copycatting the USA for years! A known fact that seems to have been forgotten. I am fascinated by the evolution of the corvette and the new midengined Z07 is just another step in the right direction. Hyundai is another that’s stepped up their game and is the fifth biggest car manufacturer in the world. GM is sitting on top of the heap, regardless, I would not expect anything less of a company that can easily spend 2-3 billion just on advertising.
Sadly C6 Z06 has more torque than New C8 Z06 which is a total downgrade, for me C6 ZR1 with its LS9 is the best and the fastest Corvette ever , even faster than C7 ZR1 .
Whos the tech guy on this?
Most powerful production motor ever, not just US.
Don't show LS motors when talking about the C5 (especially the custom built v12)
Not all chevy is pushrod, and it's not the first time it's been in a Corvette.
I was just on the Chevy Corvette website and NOWHERE did they mention ZO6 - Z51 or anything in between. All they said was L1 - L2 - L3. All have the exact same 495 HP engine. The only difference is just the options other than the engine. On the Chevy corvette website it says that the L1 is the lightest of the Vettes. Am I missing something here?
I'd like to rate this the best sounding of all LS/LT designs, I mean I still hate it, but the healthy na K series sound of the LT6 still sounds better than the broken 3800 noise Corvettes have made since 1997
“2006 Silverado isn’t an LS it’s cast iron. “ then shows a z71 in the background. That’s an all aluminum motor. 😂😂😂😂
A guy I work with was issued apparently #59 off of the line sold as the 2021 year model so I'm trying to understand more about this new monster that's been roving our break room & what all this stuff is he's talking about. Oh yeah, his he referrers to as "come get me red". And boy, is it red. He hates that he can't spin the tires though, only chirp them. I'm sure that if he finds an all-wheel-drive over-ride, that'll be the 1st things that he does. Thanx for pointing out that it breaths free air, I figured all cars of this status were charged in some shape.
OMG! Someone finally said it.....The 5.3 truck engine IS NOT an LS engine.
My biggest car pet peeve is when everyone says their doing an LS swap and they use the 4.8, 5.3 or 6.0 truck engine...
Not an LS engine people, close in some regards and some of the same parts but close don't count.
Being a C5 owner with an LS1 and a Tahoe owner with a 5.3 believe me there is a huge difference.
It's the same basic platform. And some LS and "L" engines share blocks that are virtually identical. Just look at an LS3 and L92.
They are all 3/4 gen small blocks. It's that simple. Hell, your LS1 heads will bolt straight on to your 5.3.
@@AB-80X Yes I know but the key words there are "virtually identical".
This is top notch production quality, thank you so much for this
I came across the Areovette not to long ago. The mid engine concept from the 80s. The spec for it was a 6.2 liter 4 ROTOR with 5k rpm. Just imagine how things would have been for the mid C8 if that happened.
5k is low. Wankels were capable of 20k RPM back then. The Mercedes C 111 was a sleek 4 rotor Wankel 2.4 Liter, 345 hp, 186 mph+ car. Only a handful of prototypes were made; the 70s fuel crisis hit. Wankels had great volumetric efficiency, fuel mileage not so much then. And relatively short wiper seal life.
@@jamesredman1263 it just reminded me of that weird mid engine prototype. It just blows my mind that the made a 6 liter rotory. Those Doritos had to have been HUGE.
So Chevy just "copied" a Ferrari motor? Did everyone forget the last 15 years of IMSA dominance the C6R and C7R have laid down with Pratt and Miller 5.5L V8s?
Not saying the didn't borrow ideas from Ferrari but I'm gonna go on a whim and say that magical 5.5L displacement number didn't come from nowhere........
Edit: Definitely typed all that before I got to the part where he mentions IMSA lol.
While I do think Chevy upped the game by quite the margin, absolutely love these things, so did Ferrari and this should not be compared to no old NA V8 Ferrari's imho. More like to the new modern baby Ferrari, so compare it to GTB296 and things will start to change real fast and we are no longer looking at no walk overs, in fact I think we looking at beating whatever the letters on the back of it.
But I love that they did this V8, Ferrari went into the hybrid swamp, sure they did it really well with that V6 and the McLaren competition sound even better still to my ears but so glad they make this last stand cause no matter how old dinosaurs like us want to fight this change it is going to happen. Nothing will stop it, just hope for more time.
What an amazing video, very well done. This car will be such a smash hit. Can’t wait for it!